"Veteran" of the Black Sea Fleet TFR "Ladny" went to sea trials after repair

"Veteran" of the Black Sea fleet - patrol ship of project 1135 (code "Petrel") "Ladny" went to sea trials after repairs. This was reported by the press service of the Southern Military District.

Investigative Committee "Ladny" entered one of the Black Sea Fleet's sea ranges, where it will conduct a comprehensive check of equipment and mechanisms, as well as the main power plant of the ship. After completing the exit tasks, the TFR will return to the base, where preparations will continue for the ship's return to the 30th surface ship division of the Black Sea Fleet.

Repair of the Ladny patrol ship began in 2016 at the 13th shipyard in Sevastopol. During the repair, the cruise engines were completely changed on the ship, which had exhausted their resource, and full marching readiness was restored. It is also reported that some changes have been made to the design of the case. There is no information about the replacement of weapons at the moment.

On "Ladny" were installed propulsion engines from the anti-submarine ship "Kerch", which was decommissioned after a fire in 2014. Brand new turbines purchased from Ukraine before the Maidan coup replaced the worn-out Ladny turbines.

Project 1135 patrol ship (code "Petrel") "Ladny" was laid down on May 25, 1979 at the Gulf Shipyard in Kerch, launched on May 7, 1980, and was included in the Black Sea Fleet on February 25, 1981. Displacement - 3200 tons, hull length - 123 meters, width - 14,2 meters. Speed ​​- up to 32 knots, cruising range - 5000 miles. Crew - 197 people.

Engine: 2 gas turbine units of 18000 hp, 2 screws.

In service: the universal missile system URPK-5 "Rastrub", two paired 76,2-mm gun mounts AK-726, two launchers of SAM "Osa-MA-2", two four-tube 533-mm torpedo tubes and two rocket launchers RBU- 6000.

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

Overhaul is good, only with this kind of weaponry you can hunt submarines near your shore, at most.

[novel66]

it is also necessary, the Turks are not asleep

[mojohed2012]

The armament, yes, is old, but if the TFR is called upon to ensure the defense of the port-base, then the armament is conditionally sufficient for defense under the umbrella of ground air defense, air defense of other ships.
He will also continue to intercept and destroy enemy submarines - if necessary.

[lucul]

Overhaul is good, only with this kind of weaponry you can hunt submarines near your shore, at most.

Well, with paired 76,2mm down, it is quite possible to drive an armored boat of Ukraine))))

[Niko]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Overhaul is good, only with this kind of weaponry you can hunt submarines near your shore, at most.

At the moment, I think the most urgent task for the Black Sea is: "making dangerous maneuvers" near friendly ships (if necessary, of course), but here the weapons do not greatly affect

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Niko

"making dangerous maneuvers"

The notorious "bulk"? Then let's weld the spire during overhaul.

[Niko]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: Niko

"making dangerous maneuvers"

The notorious "bulk"? Then let's weld the spire during overhaul.

And inexpensive

[Alex777]

The article contains the phrase:

It is also reported about the introduction of some changes in the design of the case.

Looks like you are looking at the root!

[fa2998]

Is the speed enough to catch up with modern ships?

[alexmach]

That's just enough for him. Tea is not a "modern ship" but an old Soviet one.

[Flooding]

The patrol ship of project 1135 (code "Petrel") "Ladny" was laid down on May 25, 1979 at the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch, launched on May 7, 1980, and was included in the Black Sea Fleet on February 25, 1981.

Nothing that old man. Will serve more.
It is a pity that the age of ships is short-lived.
Here half of the audience will be older))

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Flood

Here half of the audience will be older))

Not much, though. )))

[TRex]

Note: laid down on 25.05.79/07.05.80/25.02.81, launched on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, adopted on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX.
In a flash, in a fly, instantly .... how else to estimate the speed of construction in the Soviet Union of this rather big warship?
And all of these CORPORATIONS together with highly effective (respectively - highly paid) MANAGERS can do that? In addition to "Grachat", I still see no analogues, but the example with "Ivan Gren", with the repairs of the TAVKR or TARK in plain sight ...
I visited the plant "Zaliv" in the year 89-90 .... The distance is huge.

[Alien From]

Armament, to put it mildly, is ancient.

[Bashkirkhan]

 "Okay" museum exhibit. Look how the Azerbaijanis beautifully endured Osu in Karabakh! Osa-M is no better on the Ladnoye.

[huntsman650]

SAMs of the 80s, even worse than in Karabakh (((

[Doccor18]

There is no information about the replacement of weapons at the moment.

Very sorry.
On a 40-year-old ship, it was possible to change something in more than 4 years of repair.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Very sorry.
On a 40-year-old ship, it was possible to change something in more than 4 years of repair.

What for? What's the point? There, all the weapons will have to be redone and all the systems.

It will be expensive to develop a modernization project, disassemble and then reassemble the ship.

It is better to saturate the fleet with new corvettes of the project 20380/20385, they are almost ideal for protecting their shores.

It seems like they will put AFAR on Project 20380 and there will be Calibers in an inclined PU. As a result, we will get a very powerful and economical corvette. This is much more practical than wasting resources on a heavily outdated ship.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

What for? What's the point? There, all the weapons will need to be altered ... rather than waste resources on a very outdated ship.

Why put new turbines on a forty-year-old ship? 4 years of repairs were also expensive ... Why? So they decided that the ship will still serve, at least 10 years ... And if it is in the fleet for so many years, then the 3000-ton ship looks rather strange, with its long-outdated weapons ...

[Eldorado]

Not new turbines, but from the XNUMX-year-old "Kerch".

[Doccor18]

Brand new turbines purchased from Ukraine before the Maidan coup replaced the worn-out Ladny turbines.

[Eldorado]

On "Ladny" they installed propulsion engines from the anti-submarine ship "Kerch", which was decommissioned after a fire in 2014.
The cruise lines are old, but the turbines are supposedly new.

[Doccor18]

Quote: El Dorado

On "Ladny" they installed propulsion engines from the anti-submarine ship "Kerch", which was decommissioned after a fire in 2014.
The cruise lines are old, but the turbines are supposedly new.

New turbines were loaded on "Kerch" at one time, immediately after they were purchased from Ukraine, the ship did not even go anywhere on them, ”the source said.

IN. November 9.11.2016, XNUMX

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Putting new parts on an old ship and putting it into operation is normal, but investing a lot of money in modernizing and reworking an old ship, not being able to get new turbines for it, is stupid, especially when we have already put into production a new corvette, pr.20380 / 20385 for the same tasks.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

especially when we have already put into production a new corvette of pr.20380 / 20385 for the same tasks.

corvette 20380 simply has NOTHING to fight with boats (!) no PLUR ... SAM is not capable (!), the speed of 27 knots is low for a normal PLO / OVR (!), while the price with the "Barrier" is more than 20 billion per unit, without solving the problems with the guidance of the missile defense system (!)...
This is luck ???

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The corvette of Project 20380 has:

- Packet-NK, firing range at submarines 20 km;

- anti-submarine helicopter.

The corvettes of Project 20380 can be used in conjunction with the corvette of Project 20385, which will be used as a carrier of missile-torpedoes Caliber with a firing range of 50 km.

In the future, I read that Project 20380 will receive an inclined launcher for the caliber instead of the X-35.

And what does Project 1135 have against submarines?

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Packet-NK, submarine firing range 20 km

maximum 18 .. and

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

The corvettes of Project 20380 can be used in conjunction with the corvette of Project 20385, which will be used as a carrier of missile-torpedoes Caliber with a firing range of 50 km

not funny, because 20385 is still only one (!). And say what the presence of another project saves (or justifies existence 20380) ...

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

I read in the futurethat Project 20380 will receive an inclined launcher under the caliber instead of the Kh-35

even if in the present read (!), this does not mean that this USC project (with its laziness and not agility) will fix it in the future !

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

And what does Project 1135 have against submarines?

well, at least already existing "Bell-B" (with a range of 40-50 km (!)... ALREADY IS NOW and has long been functional (!)and TA 533 mm for full-fledged torpedoes with a stroke of 25 km ... (would not be too lazy to reflash the data entry system under "Physicist", it could be more) ... and a speed of 30+ knots ...
This is with a difference in the construction of ships of about 35 years ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, Rastrub-B is good against submarines, but it is weak against ships, the range is only 90 km, that is, any NATO ship or submarine can attack it even with an old Harpoon and remain out of the reach of Project 1135.

In addition, Project 1135 is closer to the frigate in size, almost 2 times larger than Project 20380. It means more expensive both in cost and in operation.

Project 1135 in its modern form is a series of frigates of Project 11356, which we cannot build due to the lack of engines. And it is not particularly needed, since we are building frigates of the more powerful Project 22350.

Well, the difference in speed of 32 at 1135 and 27 knots at 20380, I don't think it gives any strong advantage.

Therefore, I believe that it is not worth messing with these ships in terms of modernization, it is necessary to improve the corvettes of the project 20380/20385 for the defense of our waters.

Moreover, now they are building not only project 20380, but also 20385, and it has everything with anti-submarine / anti-ship weapons, thanks to the UKSK, it is even better than that of project 1135.

Yes, and talk about armament of Project 20380 in calibers has been going on for a long time and I think they will be installed instead of the X-35.

It's just that you don't have enough resources and time for everything and at once, the inclined PU for the Caliber has not yet been made.

Project 1135 was also not without problems, I read that the ships of this project generally went without missiles in the 80s and this fact was hidden in the USSR.

[donavi49]

The turbines are there as a bonus from the deceased Kerch. Applied to Ladny, don't throw it away. It will not work to build a new frigate on these turbines. Rather, it will come out in theory, but at a price he will catch up with Burke, for a new project, OCD, a piece gearbox to be assembled according to a special project (which must be created).

What about upgrades - why? Ladny's task is to demonstrate the flag in the World Cup-SPM, to monitor partners. In general, it is 22160 now, only with slightly greater capabilities for tapping submarine forces (including exercises with their own) and suppressing violations - like a ram / bulk.

If you start screwing the X-35 to him, then this will already creep out into a serious increase in the cost of work. But the real combat value will not greatly increase. If you start to sculpt a warship out of it - put at least some kind of Armor, cut the hull under the UKSK, hang the Fregat-M instead of the existing museum radar, then it will fly out at once in 12-15 lard rubles and 5-7 years of work. For a unique project and that's all.

In the country, there is already an extremely expensive shipbuilding (due to the technology of the 70s), and ship repair is even more expensive. Russian shipyards and USC did not even apply for 5 lard docks for the Arctic, because this is too little money, and the Turks will build it in 2 years and still get profit.

[alexmach]

What about upgrades - why? Ladny's task is to demonstrate the flag in the World Cup-SPM, to monitor partners

This is a very strange task in my opinion.

[donavi49]

A classic problem, just like Sharpie had. A one who can run for 2-3 months in the SPM (with a call to Tartus, of course). Again, there's no sense in fussing a garden for the sake of one ship (because Pytlivy has no bonus turbines and he runs the last one). There, little things were updated - where is the electronic combat post, where else what. Even in previous repairs. But nothing serious will be necessary and will not be necessary.

[alexmach]

What's the point for him to run in the SPM and go to Tartus? What will he do there?
In one of the last naval articles it was said, and I quite agree with this, that showing the flag is still not easy to swim, it means demonstrating the ability to perform a combat mission. What combat mission is it capable of performing with the SPM? What is the point of demonstrating it on an unarmed ship?

[g1v2]

He and his fellow were to be written off when the second triple 11356 arrived. But due to the break with dill, we did not receive engines, and as a result, the second three is being completed for the Indians, to whom Ukraine has agreed to sell engines for these frigates. Frigates 22350 will primarily go to ocean fleets. It is quite possible that Ladny will be written off when the first corvettes 20380 are completed and sent. In any case, the last ship is serving, because now there is nothing to replace it with. When a change comes, they will write it off. Sharp-witted has already been written off. Ladny and Inquisitive will also be written off in the coming years.

[mark1]

Brand new turbines purchased from Ukraine before the Maidan coup replaced the worn-out Ladny turbines.

The question is - what prevented the use of this set of engines for the completion of 2 frigates 11356? As far as I understand, the engines are structurally almost identical and would have to "stand up".

[Alex777]

There is such a thing - gearboxes. More precisely, they are not available for 11356.

[mark1]

Heard about such a thing ... But probably it was possible to dig in the backwaters until all 35s were disposed of.
Well this is so ... it is clear that sailors will find 1000 and one reason why all this is fantastic.

[Alex777]

But probably it was possible to dig in the backwaters until all 35s were disposed of.

If we are talking about 11356, then I don’t understand you at all.
To put something from the "backwaters" on the new ship ?!
For a minute, there is a direct order from the Ministry of Defense prohibiting, even with modernization, to put B / U.

[mark1]

Quote: Alex777

To put something from the "backwaters" on the new ship ?!

Yes, these gearboxes will work for another 20 years, and if you take into account that now those close in design are producing in the Russian Federation, then there should not be any problems with spare parts

[Galleon]

The patrol ship Ladny was included in the lists of ships on February 17, 1978 and on May 25, 1979 laid down on the slipway of the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch (serial number 16). Launched on May 7, 1980, entered service on December 29, 1980, and on February 25, 1981 included in the Black Sea Fleet.

As of 2013, the 13th shipyard in Sevastopol was undergoing repairs. The start of sea trials is scheduled for August 2014. During 18 months of being in the shipyard, serious work was carried out to repair the entire hull, premises and technical equipment. During this period, dock repairs were carried out twice, as a result of which the underwater and surface parts of the hull were brought into proper condition. In addition, the plant's specialists carried out a partial modernization of the ship's radio equipment, thanks to which its capabilities were expanded. The naval arsenal underwent diagnostics and, in some places, replacement of artillery and anti-submarine weapons. [1]

As of December 19, 2014, the Ladny ICR completed the first sailing out to sea after repairs. [2]

At the end of 2016, the dismantling of gas turbines from the BPK pr. 2014-B "Kerch" decommissioned after the fire in 1134 began, in order to install them on the SCR "Ladny", the main engines of which had exhausted their resource [3].

The repair was planned to be completed in May 2020, but later the date for putting the ship into operation was postponed to 2021.

This ship was built 40 years ago in 2,5 years, and now it has been repaired in 4,5 years, without replacing the weapons developed more than 50 years ago. No comment, only numbers, but they do not diminish the reason for pride. We would only have a reason!

[DOC]

"Ladny" will serve for several more years until new ships of this class appear in the fleet in sufficient numbers. The SKR has an anti-submarine weapon system that fights well against enemy submarines. It includes a towed deep-sea acoustic station, anti-submarine bombs, torpedoes and missiles. The latter make it possible to instantly strike a submarine even if it is detected at a distance of tens of kilometers.

[Andobor]

A relative of the term served on it during the annexation of the Crimea.

[Yuriy71]

Pay attention to the Timing - "Project 1135 patrol ship (code Burevestnik) Ladny" was laid down on May 25, 1979 at the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch, launched on May 7, 1980, included in the Black Sea Fleet on February 25, 1981. " Now, the Capitalists CANNOT SO!

[TRex]

They are just ARE ABLE, and we Were able.

[fa2998]

This is about OUR capitalists. How THEIR capitalists can work have heard a lot.

[Vladimir1155]

Significantly successful and massive project, an excellent combination of shape and size, but now it is an ejector ship, it can push the Americans out of our waters with a battering ram .... but it walks!

[lopvlad]

There is no information about the replacement of weapons at the moment.

sadly, the missile system, in order for this old man to be ranked as a combat unit in the modern world, had to be replaced.