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Ukraine is trying to create a new model of an armored combat vehicle

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Ukrainian industry is again trying to create a new model of an armored combat vehicle. This time we are talking about a heavy infantry fighting vehicle (TBMP) based on the existing tank chassis. The project called "Babylon" proposes to use a number of modern and bold solutions, which are expected to provide high combat and technical characteristics. Great hopes are pinned on the project, but its real prospects are still in question.


Project progress


At the end of 2019, Ukroboronprom Concern and Engineering Group Arey signed a memorandum of cooperation. In accordance with this document, the Arey group should develop new projects of armored vehicles for the Ukrainian army, and the state concern will ensure their implementation. The first result of joint work should be TBMP "Babylon".

The development of "Babylon" began at the turn of 2019-2020. By now, some design stages have been completed. The main design features have been determined, and separate units and assemblies have been created. As stated, the project uses the most modern ideas and solutions capable of providing high technical and combat characteristics.

Currently "Arey" continues designing and is already testing individual units. Studied the characteristics of the reservation; preparations are underway for testing other units. In particular, it is necessary to work out the power plant of unusual architecture.

In the future, the Kiev Armored Plant will have to build a full-fledged experimental TBMP. Based on the results of its tests, the issue of launching the series and adopting it will be decided. At the same time, the timing of the completion of the project and the receipt of serial vehicles in the troops are not specified - and, probably, remain unknown.

Proposed look


The Babylon project is based on some interesting ideas. So, for the first time in Ukrainian practice, an armored vehicle is initially created taking into account NATO standards. At the same time, the components of Soviet / Russian standards are retained - mainly weapon.

The basis for TBMP is the chassis of the serial main tank T-64 or T-84, subject to serious processing. The use of a hybrid diesel-electric power plant with a wide range of possibilities is proposed. The chassis remains the same. The most automated complex of weapons based on digital control systems is being developed.

The chassis of the Babylon TBMP will be universal. Instead of the standard cannon and machine gun module, it will be possible to install other fighting compartments, incl. borrowed from old self-propelled guns. The combat module of the heavy infantry fighting vehicle will also be compatible with other carriers.


The Babylon project is distinguished by a high degree of novelty. More than 200 new components have been announced. Probably, we are talking about the development of our own parts and components to replace imported samples that are no longer available for political reasons.

Technical features


Published several images of "Babylon" - a three-dimensional model and a prototype. They show that the project involves the construction of a well-protected vehicle with a number of expected features and some interesting features. Externally, TBMP is generally similar to some existing samples.

The TBMP hull is made using spaced armor. In addition, frontal and side projections are equipped with overhead elements. It offers a double bottom for protection against mines and additional internal armor elements that cover the crew and troops. It is argued that the layout of the hull booking successfully withstood the shelling from a 30-mm cannon from a distance of 200 m and the hit of a 125-mm sub-caliber projectile from 500 m.

A hybrid power plant is being developed for Babylon. The aft compartments of the hull house a Deutz TCD16.0V8 diesel engine with a power of 768 hp. and a generator. Two traction electric motors of 500 kW each are located in the bow, and batteries are located on the bottom of the hull. Several modes of operation are declared, providing for the separate or combined use of diesel and electric motors. In addition, TBMP will be able to supply electricity to external consumers. The power plant has an integrated climate system.

The new TBMP will receive a manned fighting compartment with a developed weapons complex. The swinging tower mounts a 30-mm 2A42 cannon and a 7,62-mm PKT machine gun. On the roof of the tower there are mountings for a 40-mm UAG-40 grenade launcher and Barrier missiles. The design of the turret allows reloading of weapons from the inside, without the need to leave the protected volume. On the roof of the tower it is proposed to install an additional combat module with a large-caliber machine gun.

The tower and combat module will receive optoelectronic units for finding targets and aiming weapons. A digital fire control system with weapon stabilization, remote control from operator stations, etc. is being developed.

TBMP will receive the so-called. a unified control complex, which will include a traffic control system, an OMS, a circular view and communication devices. All control will be carried out from three automated workstations of the crew. The use of a single complex is expected to simplify movement and weapons control, when working independently and as part of a unit.

The crew of the "Babylon" in the configuration of a heavy infantry fighting vehicle includes three people. The driver and commander are inside the hull, the gunner must work in the turret. The troop compartment will be able to accommodate eight soldiers with embarkation and disembarkation through the aft door. "Anatomical" energy absorbing chairs with various adjustments are offered for use. Inhabited compartments must have a climate system.


The prototype of "Babylon"

In terms of its dimensions, the promising TBMP will not be inferior to the T-64 base tank. Combat weight is declared at the level of 36 tons. It is supposed to provide high mobility and maneuverability on land. With the help of equipment for underwater driving, the armored vehicle will be able to cross water obstacles.

Unclear future


At the heart of the Ukrainian project TBMP "Babylon" are the most daring ideas, incl. not yet widely used in world practice. It is believed that this will make the new armored vehicle one of the most efficient and advanced in the world. The project has already been brought to the stage of testing individual units, and in the foreseeable future it is planned to build a full-fledged prototype.

The proposed appearance of the combat vehicle is of some interest. So, it corresponds to the ideas of recent times about reducing the potential of "conventional" infantry fighting vehicles and the need to create heavy vehicles of this class. The project provides for a high level of protection and firepower. The hybrid power plant has well-known operational and technical advantages. Also an important feature of the project is a unified management complex.

However, the outlook for Babylon in terms of production and operation remains uncertain - and there is no reason for optimism yet. This project from the "Arey" group may face the same problems as the mass of other modern developments in Ukraine. In recent decades, the Ukrainian industry has offered a large number of various types of armored vehicles, but only individual products were brought to the series, and the pace of production left much to be desired.

All this was due to a chronic lack of funding, organizational problems, general degradation of industrial potential, etc. By now, despite some insufficient measures, the situation as a whole has not changed. As a consequence, any new project, including Babylon, risks repeating the fate of previous developments.

Such problems are exacerbated by the excessive novelty and boldness of a promising project. The authors of "Babylon" will have to work out a number of solutions and components, and then set up the production of all new unusual systems. It will require not only the creation of a new production line, but also the establishment of cooperation with subcontractors, which can be overwhelmingly difficult.

Future after trials


Taking into account the known factors and objective difficulties of modern Ukraine, one can imagine what the future of TBMP "Babylon" will be like. Apparently, "Engineering group" Arey "and" Ukroboronprom "will be able to complete the development work. Not only a mock-up, but also a full-fledged prototype will be built.

However, the future of the project is vague and not conducive to optimism. If "Babylon" can be brought to a series, then the Ukrainian army will not have to rely on a large number of such equipment. Heavy infantry fighting vehicles will be difficult and expensive to manufacture, which will limit its production. Even an optimistic scenario allows expecting only dozens of serial armored vehicles. However, given the current views and plans of the Ukrainian leadership, the lack of modern effective armored vehicles and the possibilities for its release should be considered positive factors.
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  1. Sofa batyr
    Sofa batyr April 7 2021 05: 00
    +8
    The Babylon project is distinguished by a high degree of novelty.


    And there are those in Ukraine who know about another ambitious project that challenged the Lord, and how it ended?
    1. Sofa batyr
      Sofa batyr April 7 2021 05: 10
      +10
      Proposed look

      In principle, nothing fundamentally new is visible, at the core is the same "Dung", riveted from garbage containers, and drawn by a tower-combat module ...

    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 05: 12
      +10
      Quote: Divan-batyr
      challenge the Lord to the project, and how it ended
      Haha, Ukroprometei are challenging the Darkest, and not like TNB.

      successfully withstood shelling from 300 mm cannon from a distance of 200 m and hitting a 125-mm APCR projectile from 500 m.
      Here it was definitely not without the intervention of higher forces. laughing
      1. Professor
        Professor April 7 2021 06: 54
        0
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Here it was definitely not without the intervention of higher forces.

        30-mm
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 06: 57
          +3
          Quote: Professor
          30-mm

          Yeah, 200 m for 30 mm and 500 for 125 mm sub-caliber is also a mistake? Creator? laughing
          1. Professor
            Professor April 7 2021 07: 03
            -1
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Quote: Professor
            30-mm

            Yeah, 200 m for 30 mm and 500 for 125 mm sub-caliber is also a mistake? Creator? laughing

            No. This is how the numbers look plausible. hi
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 07: 07
              +3
              Quote: Professor
              No. This is how the numbers look believable.
              The numbers look doubtful, the 125 mm PSU is dozens of times superior to the 30 mm PSU in energy and the difference in 300 meters of range will not change anything here.
              1. Professor
                Professor April 7 2021 07: 17
                -7
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Quote: Professor
                No. This is how the numbers look believable.
                The numbers look doubtful, the 125 mm PSU is dozens of times superior to the 30 mm PSU in energy and the difference in 300 meters of range will not change anything here.

                Large-caliber BOPS loses in speed of about 50 m / s at 1000 m. Therefore, shoot at 100, 500 or 1000 without a difference.
                30-mm it is not clear what they were shooting. If again BOPS, which is logical for armored vehicles, then the distance of 200 m is a little too large (you can miss), but "kosher" (the kinetic energy is sufficient).
                1. Vladimir_2U
                  Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 07: 26
                  +3
                  Quote: Professor
                  Therefore, it makes no difference to shoot at 100, 500 or 1000.
                  That's it.
                  Quote: Professor
                  If again BOPS, ... ... then the distance of 200 m is a little too big (you may not hit), but "kosher" (the kinetic energy is sufficient).
                  The fact that from 500 m 125 BOPS did not take - 30 mm and will not take at point-blank range, certainly not 2a42.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor April 7 2021 07: 34
                    -4
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    The fact that from 500 m 125 BOPS did not take - 30 mm and will not take at point-blank range, certainly not 2a42.

                    Why did you decide you were shooting the same projections? It is logical to fire 125 mm at the forehead, and 30 mm at the sides.
                    1. Vladimir_2U
                      Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 08: 05
                      +1
                      Quote: Professor
                      Why did you decide you were shooting the same projections? It is logical to fire 125 mm at the forehead, and 30 mm at the sides.
                      I didn’t decide anything, they didn’t decide in the article, so why should I?
                2. Sergey269
                  Sergey269 April 7 2021 08: 51
                  +2
                  You did not take into account the difference in mass between the large-caliber and the 30-mm. Calculate your "kosher" energy, taking into account mass and speed ... Remember physics!
                  1. Professor
                    Professor April 7 2021 08: 56
                    -1
                    Quote: Sergey269
                    You did not take into account the difference in mass between the large-caliber and the 30-mm. Calculate your "kosher" energy, taking into account mass and speed ... Remember physics!

                    You read carefully. The loss of energy in a 30-mm BOPS at a distance of 200 m is not critical. Here is physics. I am not comparing the kinetic energy of 125mm and 30mm ammunition, CEP.
              2. Angry Alt-Right
                Angry Alt-Right April 8 2021 02: 45
                +1
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Quote: Professor
                No. This is how the numbers look believable.
                The numbers look doubtful, the 125 mm PSU is dozens of times superior to the 30 mm PSU in energy and the difference in 300 meters of range will not change anything here.

                The author simply forgot to write what calibers from what projections, that's all! For the 300-mm operational-tactical ammunition, which was "fired" at this heavy infantry fighting vehicle, such clarifications clearly will not harm! laughing good
                1. Professor
                  Professor April 8 2021 07: 28
                  -1
                  Quote: Angry Alt-Right
                  The author simply forgot to write what calibers from what projections, that's all!

                  So. hi
            2. venik
              venik April 7 2021 20: 03
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Quote: Professor
              30-mm

              Yeah, 200 m for 30 mm and 500 for 125 mm sub-caliber is also a mistake? Creator? laughing

              No. This is how the numbers look plausible. hi

              ==========
              Uh-huh! "Plausible, how is it! 125-mm BOPS" Lead "from a distance 2 km punches 650 mm cold rolled homogenized armor, and the best Russian and foreign armor-piercing 30-mm shells - from a distance 1 km (i.e. half as much!), no more than 55-mm (the difference is more than 10 times!).
              Then consider yourself, that's why you are a "professor" !!! bully hi
              1. Professor
                Professor April 8 2021 07: 22
                0
                Quote: venik
                Quote: Professor
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Quote: Professor
                30-mm

                Yeah, 200 m for 30 mm and 500 for 125 mm sub-caliber is also a mistake? Creator? laughing

                No. This is how the numbers look plausible. hi

                ==========
                Uh-huh! "Plausible, how is it! 125-mm BOPS" Lead "from a distance 2 km punches 650 mm cold rolled homogenized armor, and the best Russian and foreign armor-piercing 30-mm shells - from a distance 1 km (i.e. half as much!), no more than 55-mm (the difference is more than 10 times!).
                Then consider yourself, that's why you are a "professor" !!! bully hi

                Where were you told that the shelling was carried out in the forehead with both calibers? fool

                PS
                By the way, 30 mm BOPS penetrates 100 mm.
      2. Bauer
        Bauer April 7 2021 13: 49
        +2
        "300-mm guns" - this is a battleship gun! I'm embarrassed to ask, but does the torpedo hit also hold?
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 15: 48
          +1
          Quote: Bauer
          I'm embarrassed to ask, but does the torpedo hit also hold?

          vnaUkrainian armored car is holding!
        2. Momotomba
          Momotomba April 8 2021 06: 44
          0
          Quote: Bauer
          I'm embarrassed to ask, but does the torpedo hit also hold?

          Only during underwater driving ... On land, you know, nothing can hold a torpedo laughing
    3. Ilya Nikitich
      Ilya Nikitich April 8 2021 13: 40
      0
      Well, here again, they removed the comment from the language ... laughing
    4. max702
      max702 15 May 2021 22: 45
      0
      Excuse me, but what about the genius designer Rostik?
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 April 7 2021 05: 20
    +1
    The non-brothers again got carried away with the pictures and the names of what "Tirex" "Babylon", they ask everyone for money, how the poor can build something modern, especially the engine and electronic components need to be bought, and only old buildings from T64 smile
    1. Sergey_G_M
      Sergey_G_M April 7 2021 16: 17
      0
      Yes, only part of the suspension and caterpillar remained from the tank - everything else is new. Taking into account the power plant and electronics, the development time of such a machine will be 5-8 years. In the current situation in Ukraine, this alone puts a bold cross on it, even without taking into account the cost of development and the cost of the machine itself (and its cost will not be small).
  3. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. April 7 2021 05: 41
    -3
    hull armor mock-up successfully withstood shelling from a 300-mm cannon from a distance of 200 m hull armor mock-up successfully withstood firing from a 300-mm cannon

    What is this, a joke? what
    1. Sofa batyr
      Sofa batyr April 7 2021 05: 44
      +5
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      What is this, a joke?

      "All April - Trust Nobody" lol
    2. Free wind
      Free wind April 7 2021 06: 09
      0
      Yes, and electric motors of 500 kilowatts, the identity of the same is fantastic to read. Most likely translation costs.
  4. Sayan
    Sayan April 7 2021 05: 53
    0
    To paraphrase - that we should build a tank - we will draw a fight laughing
  5. aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 April 7 2021 05: 55
    0
    Dreams, dreams ... and paper will write it off. Question: what percentage of the purchased components and where are they purchased?
  6. Sahalinets
    Sahalinets April 7 2021 05: 57
    -1
    The next cut. Even the States do not risk making such hybrids, let alone 404 ...
  7. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 7 2021 06: 59
    -1
    They just used to have a number of companies, they drew computer toys, such as Stalker. Now they are bankrupt, but the habit of drawing comics remains
  8. Cruorvult
    Cruorvult April 7 2021 06: 59
    0
    Another peremoga. 2a42 is now insufficient for conventional infantry fighting vehicles, especially for heavy ones. And what will happen to the batteries after being blown up by a mine, what about the production of new hulls, armored steel, engines?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 8 2021 08: 26
      0
      With a cannon, the problem is the same in the Russian Federation .... there are no intermediate solutions up to 57mm. And in the Russian Federation there are no heavy infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers ... a 30mm projectile is enough for the Ukrainians. Moreover, there are Czech BOPSs for 2a42, which are quite decent. The Russian Federation does not even have such.
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 7 2021 07: 27
    +1
    Waste Container 2 Project?
  10. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev April 7 2021 07: 36
    0
    If translated into Russian: they drew a picture, stole several tens of millions of hryvnias and onward to a new revolutionary development.
  11. Normal ok
    Normal ok April 7 2021 07: 49
    -2
    The idea is not new. The Israelis, at one time, converted Soviet tanks captured from the Arabs into heavy infantry fighting vehicles. At the KhBZ, with the support of the Morozov Design Bureau, if I am not mistaken, there were 2-3 running samples of heavy infantry fighting vehicles based on the T-64 (with a complete re-arrangement) would have dropped the video, but the Internet lags - it is not attached ..
    Most likely they will be taken as a basis.
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 7 2021 10: 28
      +4
      Quote: Normal ok
      At the KhBZ, with the support of the Morozov Design Bureau, if I am not mistaken, there were 2-3 running samples of heavy infantry fighting vehicles based on the T-64 (with a complete re-arrangement) would have dropped the video, but the Internet lags - it is not attached ..



      1. Angry Alt-Right
        Angry Alt-Right April 8 2021 03: 01
        +1
        The case when the comment under the article is more adequate than the article itself.
  12. Sergey269
    Sergey269 April 7 2021 08: 18
    -1
    Boy Rostik has already grown up! Hurray ... Moved from Poroshenov's candy boxes for supertanks to drawing computer pictures. AutoCAD probably mastered? Name those sources of "new materials". Pea gas?
  13. Borz
    Borz April 7 2021 08: 33
    0
    The first question is financing. This article was mentioned.
    The second question is technology. In the conditions of degradation of all spheres of science and industry in Ukraine, I strongly doubt that they will be able to overcome a lot of problems associated with the production of this machine. Remember the scandals with the Ukrainian armored personnel carriers delivered to Iraq (cracks in the armor).
  14. Popandos
    Popandos April 7 2021 09: 26
    0
    Unclear future

    That says it all
    Diverge
  15. monster
    monster April 7 2021 09: 42
    0
    These are the same ones, from the caches, that the "dung" was blinded ??? Which was equipped with a "video camera-door peephole" from alik, as an optics ?? !!))) Then let them continue, I'll even sacrifice a couple of pigs for such a thing ...
  16. Per se.
    Per se. April 7 2021 09: 52
    +7
    However, the future of the project is vague and not conducive to optimism. If "Babylon" can be brought to a series, then the Ukrainian army will not have to rely on a large number of such equipment.
    In Kharkov, BMPT-64, unified with the T-64 tank, was already being created.


    1. Diverter
      Diverter April 8 2021 10: 46
      0
      And to be honest, I like this prodigy. In fact, the idea of ​​making a TBMP out of a tank is not bad. It would be possible for us, for example, to make heavy infantry fighting vehicles out of a huge number of T-62s and replace them with BMP 1, of which there are still many in the troops.
    2. Oleg Shlyapin
      Oleg Shlyapin 2 May 2021 12: 47
      0
      That's it. But for the "Russians" this is not realized
  17. Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 7 2021 10: 05
    0
    As always - the picture is beautiful, but in reality - zilch ...
    Bulat and Oplot are piece goods. Even with the modernization of old Soviet technology, serious financial and technical difficulties arise endlessly, what can we say about a new development. Everything is at the testing stage and will fade ...
  18. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 7 2021 14: 47
    0
    It will end up at the layout level at its best. They will take him to exhibitions and slowly to the closet.
  19. Stas1973
    Stas1973 April 7 2021 15: 59
    0
    So in the article they write that only individual nodes have been created. What was being fired upon? Building T-64?
  20. avdkrd
    avdkrd April 7 2021 18: 08
    0
    Wet dreams
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  22. Blackgrifon
    Blackgrifon April 7 2021 20: 46
    0
    Their pictures, as always, are valid, but with the implementation of the last 20 years ... :)
  23. Thomas N.
    Thomas N. April 8 2021 07: 59
    0
    The skating rinks in the pictures are hanging in the air!
  24. Sergey Kulikov_3
    Sergey Kulikov_3 April 8 2021 08: 46
    0
    The name of the project is very telling, I remember from history that the builders of the Tower of Babel stopped understanding each other, apparently they communicated on different versions of Surzhik and Mova.
  25. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 8 2021 18: 17
    0
    "Even an optimistic scenario allows us to expect only dozens of serial armored vehicles."
    You are wrong. The optimistic scenario allows you to expect a couple of such coffins. Realistic - zero.
    By the way, will there be a variant of the APC? Called Crazy Babylon?
  26. Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 April 8 2021 18: 18
    0
    Guys, you almost froze this winter ... Well, there will be no happiness for the former Russian, who spat on the graves of their ancestors: the Universe will not allow such lawlessness. You ought to get on your knees and crawl like cancer from Troyeshchina to the Kremlin itself, you see, the Lord will have mercy on the poor, and before that you will have the Island of Bad Luck.
  27. Oleg Shlyapin
    Oleg Shlyapin 2 May 2021 12: 46
    -1
    Why is he trying? Ukraine is quite successfully creating such equipment
  28. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 11 May 2021 22: 52
    0
    Until the project “Babylon” is mastered, the project “Ukraine” will cease to exist.
  29. Eug
    Eug 12 May 2021 06: 51
    0
    A much simpler and, accordingly, cheap BMP (T) -64 project based on the T-64 has sunk into oblivion, and here such a scale ... seemed interesting to be able to control from 3 crew workstations, but, as for me, everything will depend on the level of implementation - you can get a "classic" scheme like "swan, crayfish and pike" ... and one more thing - what if you try to make an armored hitch from batteries? Explode when hitting them will be no worse than typical elements, and you can save in weight ...
  30. monster
    monster 12 May 2021 18: 30
    0
    Why Babylon, why not a farm?