The company "CosmoCourse", which was planning the development of space tourism, announced its closure

The private Russian company KosmoKurs, which previously received a license from Roskosmos for space activities, announced its closure. This was stated by the general director of the company Pavel Pushkin.

Answering a question about the reasons for this decision, Pushkin explained that the company faced "insurmountable difficulties" in agreeing the requirements of the authorities for the construction of a private cosmodrome, as well as the impossibility of obtaining regulatory documents from the Ministry of Defense for the design of the rocket.

Earlier, the company announced plans to build a private cosmodrome in the Nizhny Novgorod region. In addition, KosmoKurs received a license from Roskosmos for space activities and began developing a single-stage reentry rocket and a seven-seat spacecraft for space tourists to fly to an altitude of 200 kilometers.

In 2020, the private company "CosmoCourse" for the first time in stories Russian cosmonautics was admitted to participate in the competition for the creation of the Amur-LNG carrier rocket.

At the moment, the company employs 50 designers of space technology, all of them have already been announced about the reduction. In turn, Roskosmos intends to retain the KosmoKurs design team and is currently considering the issue of including them in one of the structures included in the state corporation.

The CosmoCourse company existed for almost 7 years, it was organized in 2014 for the organization of space tourism.

Comments

[Woodman]

In addition, KosmoKurs received a license from Roskosmos for space activities and began developing a single-stage reentry rocket and a seven-seat spacecraft for space tourists to fly to an altitude of 200 kilometers.

the company faced "insurmountable difficulties" in coordinating the requirements of the authorities for the construction of a private cosmodrome, as well as the impossibility of obtaining regulatory documents from the Ministry of Defense for the design of the rocket.

So a seven-seater shuttle at least designed? Or did it not go beyond words?

[Thrifty]

Lesovik - Roscosmos doesn't need competitors for nothing, it gets rid of them! Before that, a company wishing to launch a private rocket of its own design from the territory of the Voronezh region, where they wanted to build their own cosmodrome, "disappeared". This is money, and what if the private trader succeeds, and Roscosmos' own Mask is like a knife for genetics!

[Woodman]

Quote: Thrifty

he gets rid of them! Before that, a company wishing to launch a private rocket of its own design "disappeared"

I didn't ask for Roscosmos. I clearly asked whether the seven-seater was developed or not? Roscosmos could not interfere with this development in any way.

[Thrifty]

Lesovik - now what's the difference if even the rocket was not given permission to build and test? Even if they developed a koskor, they were not given permission to create it, without it, as well as without a launch vehicle, what, how and how will the company launch into space? ??

[Woodman]

Quote: Thrifty

Now, what's the difference if even the rocket was not given permission to build and test?

Was there anything to build and experience? I did not see a word that this company had designed something. Most likely, they did not agree on anything due to the lack of a subject for approval. So far, based on the article and your answers, only such a conclusion suggests itself.

[Thrifty]

Lesovik - at first, for your money, you build a rocket capable of taking off to an altitude of 30 km, if a couple of launches are normal for you, you submit a request to create a rocket to launch cargo into orbit! Or people! Your next rocket should take off above the Karman line, that is, go into outer space, but. ... here comes into effect the permission to create and launch such a rocket from Roscosmos, from the military. .. a bunch of approvals! Only, the problem is that Roskosmos without explaining the reasons may refuse you permission to create and launch such a rocket! EVERYTHING! !! Bureaucracy triumphs over common sense, the competitor is eliminated! Your unbuilt rocket will be considered hazardous to the environment, for example, or some other reason will be found to prevent you from becoming an honest private space businessman! !!

[Woodman]

Quote: Thrifty

Lesovik - first, for your money, you build a rocket that can take off

And there was something to build? You already tell me which commentary about the intrigues of Roscosmos, while I am only interested in a simple question - was an apparatus for space flights developed or not? All you talk about is project implementation problems. I am NOT asking about this. I am interested in how ready the spacecraft project was. After all, permission is not required to develop such an apparatus. If the project was ready for physical implementation, then you say so. If not, then what's the point in moaning about the intrigues of Roscosmos?
Although I doubt at all that you are reading my questions ... So far, our dialogue fits into the formula "I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me about Erema" ...

[XXXIII]

Quote: Thrifty

EVERYTHING! !! Bureaucracy triumphs over common sense

Probably the people from this company are Roscosmos, they created the appearance of a private project. I have not heard that there were such companies with large capital. Only about the sea launch, which was bought by a private trader, everything else is the intrigues of the marketing of Roscosmos.

[Flooding]

Quote: Thrifty

now what difference does it make if even the rocket was not given permission to build and test?

huge difference
there are competent private companies in the state capable of launching such a project, or they are not

[Thrifty]

They were such recently! Roscosmos finishes the last. ...

[Flooding]

Quote: Thrifty

They were such recently! Roscosmos finishes the last. ...

I thought you knew them!
well, tell me. everyone is interested.

[Thrifty]

Navodlom - I'm not Pushkin, I can't write poems, and I don't want to! !!

[Flooding]

Quote: Thrifty

Navodlom - I'm not Pushkin, I can't write poems, and I don't want to! !!

okay. don't tell.
the main thing is that I take your word for it without any evidence

[Thrifty]

Navodlom-oh, thank you, respected , in fact, the Internet will help you, some "eaten", or rather, who did not receive permission for such an activity as the creation and launch of space cargo, had their own pages, look if they were not swept under a clean one, it’s interesting how the state equipment slows down private trader's way into space. Why is it impossible to have your own Musk in Russia? One engineer, now working in China, also wrote, and a few years ago he naively dreamed of creating spaceships in Russia. ...

[Flooding]

Quote: Thrifty

Internet to help you, some of the "eaten" or rather, who did not receive permission for such a type of activity as the creation and launch of space cargo had their own pages, look, if they were not swept under a clean one, there it is interesting how the state apparatus slows down a private trader's way into space.

Thanks to the article and your persistence, we have already found one such from Skolkovo.
Seven years of unceasing toil for the benefit of Russian cosmonautics.
You are doing the right thing not to share information. You are on the right track, comrades. Not then you are on VO, to spread the facts, but to prove something to someone.
Here's someone else to demand for idle chatter - this is please. For a sweet soul. From the same croaker Rogozin, for example.
But that's another matter. It is necessary to understand.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Thrifty

This is money, and what if the private trader succeeds, and Roscosmos' own Mask is like a knife for genetics!

It is for sure that the cutting space does not need competitors in cutting.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Stroporez

It is for sure that the cutting space does not need competitors in cutting.

That is, this CosmoCourse would also be engaged in sawing, in your words?

[Flooding]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

That is, this CosmoCourse would also be engaged in sawing, in your words?

what are you really
well, the man blurted out without thinking
It happens to everyone
even with the most real anti-corruption

[Flooding]

main page of the site CosmoCourse from the cache

That's interesting.
For seven years we have been doing ISKK within the framework of the Skolkovo Foundation.

[Nikon O'Conor]

Yes, there were no developments ... nothing at all. The Skolkovo Foundation has invested (created) a part of the budget funds in a private company. Together they sawed (mastered) this budget, and when they felt that they would start asking for developments further, they closed the company, citing "wrong" laws. Judging by the cached site, they didn't even want to invest in their "face" on the Internet. Not a page, but some squalor. In the late 90s, I wrote with my hands in HTML and that was better ...
IMHO.

[Flooding]

Quote: Nikon OConor

Yes, there were no developments ... nothing at all. The Skolkovo Foundation has invested (created) a part of the budget funds in a private company. Together they sawed (mastered) this budget, and when they felt that they would start asking for developments further, they closed the company, citing the "wrong" laws

what do you mean! can not be!
this is the intrigue of Roscosmos))

[Nikon O'Conor]

Sarcasm, huh?))

[Flooding]

Glory to you, Lord!
At least one person on VO recognized the sarcasm on the first try.
Usually they begin to extinguish the crowd.

[Nikon O'Conor]

Yes, sometimes it is bad here, both with humor and with understanding))
Sincerely

[Malyuta]

Quote: Flood

At least one person on VO recognized the sarcasm on the first try.
Usually they begin to extinguish the crowd.

I am very sorry, but jokes and sarcasm do not always go away here, so after the phrase it is better to immediately write the word sarcasm.

[Flooding]

Quote: Malyuta

after the phrase, it is better to immediately write the word sarcasm

the problem is that after writing the word "sarcasm" 90% of the sarcastic message disappears.
It's like telling an anecdote to suggest where to laugh.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Flood

the problem is that after writing the word "sarcasm" 90% of the sarcastic message disappears.

But there will be fewer minuses, the audience here is a serious bow, they can present it for a comma

[Furious bambr]

Are you serious? Let's fix the spaceport in your yard so that the first step will fill up all nine floors? The next budget sawers, it just didn't work out. Or did one of them bring their money ???

[Ross xnumx]

The private Russian company KosmoKurs, which previously received a license from Roskosmos for space activities, announced its closure. This was stated by the CEO of the company Pavel Pushkin.

What can I say? Oh yes, Pushkin! Oh yes, someone's son!

[abrakadabre]

Before that, a company wishing to launch a private rocket of its own design from the territory of the Voronezh region, where they wanted to build their own cosmodrome, "disappeared".

And where in the Voronezh region and on what shisha was the company going to have enough land to safely place an entire cosmodrome in a densely populated area? The same is about the Nizhny Novgorod region. A normal airfield requires a lot of land. And already under the cosmodrome ... To reduce the risk that some explosive <... censorship ...> of several hundred tons did not collapse on people's heads. Especially at the stage of design development. And then, during operation.

[Infinity]

Quote: Lesovik

So a seven-seater shuttle at least designed? Or did it not go beyond words?

Nope. Yes, and it is impossible to design something in such a period, except, perhaps, a layout, especially since they could not fully begin the development of the launch vehicle, for which this shuttle will be made. You can also remember how much the same Blue Origin did their New Shepard, for example, and they had more resources for this.
By the way, I remember in the magazine "Russian Space" in 2019 they wrote about problems with legislation in this area and compared them with the legislation of other countries. We need to work through this moment if we want to give the green light to such projects. And you don't really need to reinvent the bicycle: there is the experience of the United States and China, you just need to adapt it to our conditions.

[Woodman]

Quote: Infinity

Nope. And it is not possible to design something in such a period, except for the layout

Clear. I was just trying to find out for myself the degree of guilt of "the authorities and the Ministry of Defense."

[Avior]

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the inability to obtain from the Ministry of Defense regulatory documentation for the design of the rocket

And how to design and even more so to build a ship without a rocket?

[Woodman]

Quote: Avior

And how to design and even more so to build a ship without a rocket

And what then were fifty designers doing for 7 years (yes, plus there were probably still accountants, personnel officers, suppliers) on the money of investors, if they could not work without an answer from the Ministry of Defense? Did you create an imitation of hectic activity?

[Avior]

Seems like they were heroically overcoming difficulties

The company's staff for 2018 was 30 people, aged from 20 to 60 years [8]. The minimum wage for a young specialist with a higher education was 55 thousand rubles per person [8].

General Director of the company Pavel Pushkin is a graduate of the Moscow Aviation Institute, who worked for 10 years at the Khrunichev Center, where he participated in the design of the Angara rocket [21].

The company has one investor who remains anonymous [8].

In 2015—2016. the technical specifications for the creation of the spacecraft were agreed with Roscosmos [11]. In 2016, the terms of reference were agreed upon, and permission was obtained from Roscosmos [12]. In September 2017, the company received a license to carry out space activities [13]. The commissioning of the preliminary project was scheduled for April-May 2018 [8] .....

In the Nizhny Novgorod region, the construction project of the first private cosmodrome in Russia has been suspended. This was announced by Pavel Pushkin, general director of the private space company "Kosmokurs", which is engaged in the project.

In an interview with RIA Novosti, Pushkin complained about bureaucratic obstacles. “Nothing is being coordinated on the cosmodrome. Everyone is nodding at each other, ”he said.

According to him, a year ago the company agreed with the authorities of the Nizhny Novgorod region on the process of coordinating the sanitary protection zone of the cosmodrome. The corresponding project was sent to the Nizhny Novgorod Institute of Rospotrebnadzor, then to the Federal Medical and Biological Agency (FMBA), and then to the Federal Rospotrebnadzor. No response was received, the head of the company said.

Work on the project to create a suborbital rocket for launching space tourists has also been suspended, Pushkin said in a comment to TASS. According to him, "Kosmokurs" for the second year has not been able to receive normative documentation from the Ministry of Defense for its design. At the same time, Pushkin noted that the military “speaks everything correctly from a legal point of view,” since the Ministry of Defense is not the customer of the Kosmokurs project.

I don’t know what they would have created if these difficulties did not exist, but so far the result - these bureaucratic difficulties were, and without overcoming them nothing can be created - at any moment they can slow down, as the government did with Sea Launch, a much more predictable private project. who was banned from using Ukrainian-Russian missiles, but there are no purely Russian ones.

[Woodman]

Quote: Avior

I don’t know what they were creating

And if without "would" it turns out that nothing. And then they decided to blame everything on bureaucrats. Where are the developments? Why build a cosmodrome if there is no ready-made spacecraft even on paper?

[Twodi]

Our grandfathers, old men, were not allowed. Today I listened on FM business, as some grandfather from Roscosmos said: “Yes, young enthusiasts have come here, yes, they have money, connections, but they would not have succeeded. Because who are they to implement such projects ... "this is all Russian reality.

[xorek]

Like Musk wanted to crank up ..? At the expense of the budget, etc. Oh well ..
We know these "tourists" ..

[Blackmokona]

Musk first successfully launched a rocket into space, and only then signed a contract with NASA.
Business first, then sweets

[Thrifty]

Ferret -Vitaliy people put their money into it! !!

[pyagomail.com]

They found a strange place for the cosmodrome. Maybe it's better in the Moscow region, closer to Sheremetyevo airport? And start up the train?

[Thrifty]

With the cosmodrome, state officials and the military cut a place so that you do not find yourself near a nuclear power plant, or a strategic military facility! Your wishes are not our wishes, in other words!

[sined]

Apparently Roskosmos decided to independently engage in space tourism and absorbed a competitor, if it can be called that.

[Nikolay1987]

What kind of competitor is there, even the prototype was not shown at least something. They are simply mired in the state bureaucracy, and the business-paln does not like this, it is a loss.

[sined]

It is quite possible that they would not have succeeded, they just need to give a chance and support, with the possibility of influencing the private trader so that there is no mess. In the States, in addition to SpaceX and Rocket Lab, which are already firmly on their feet, such private traders as Firefly Aerospace, ABL Space Systems, Astra, Relativity Space are next in line. They are then given support and contracts. Although it was possible to get by with two private traders.

[slipped]

Quote: Sined

Apparently Roskosmos decided to independently engage in space tourism and absorbed a competitor, if it can be called that.

Roskosmos has long been involved in space tourism. This year, two ships with tourists are flying.

[Flooding]

Quote: Sined

Apparently Roskosmos decided to independently engage in space tourism and absorbed a competitor, if it can be called that.

here they are just trying to figure out the question, was there anything to absorb

[spirit]

Yes, the Mask would definitely not have shone with us)))
But in China they took it seriously, seeing the prospects from private astronautics.

[tralflot1832]

The company has existed for 7 years, but what kind of money? I definitely didn't transfer money to them! There is a topic who needs to dig!

[Blackmokona]

Private investment

[tralflot1832]

Then I felt relieved from the bottom of my heart, thanks !!!

[slipped]

And where does the Baikonur Union in the picture have to do with it? Here the private investor did not want to risk his money. This is something new and unknown.

[knn54]

Does anyone know what they have done in almost seven years? Except for some papers.

[slipped]

Quote: knn54

Does anyone know what they have done in almost seven years? Except for some papers.

The engine was done. The materials were selected and the manufacturing technology. Ignition system. Spillage of injectors.

[Vadim237]

It was necessary to create good advertising, then the problems of a bureaucratic nature would decrease.

[slipped]

Quote: Vadim237

It was necessary to create good advertising, then the problems of a bureaucratic nature would decrease.

Speaking of advertising, today the Samara University launched its experimental rocket at an altitude of almost 2 km:

Successfully, they will recruit the next of the modules - they want to reach 10 km.

"One of the nearest projects, supported by the University and the Progress RCC, will be to help the student bureau create more powerful missile modifications capable of reaching an altitude of 10 km and higher."

[Konnick]

The engine was done. The materials were selected and the manufacturing technology. Ignition system. Spillage of injectors.

"For two years I learned to pronounce this word" pre-sti-di-gi-tator ", ha-ha! .. And a whole month -" hypnosis ".

[Flooding]

Quote: slipped

The engine was done. The materials were selected and the manufacturing technology. Ignition system. Spillage of injectors.

how much is it as a percentage of the total amount of design work?

[Maks1995]

Looked in the internet. Skolkovo. And that's it.

Someone laundered money on trampolines.

[Konnick]

I wonder who financed these "Cosmo Horns and Hooves"?

[Avior]

Anonymous investor

[Roma 1977]

The damn coronavirus has crippled the entire travel industry. Even space touched.

[Konnick]

Quote: BlackMokona

Private investment

Where did private investors get their money from? From which banks?
Was it possible that banks gave loans for a pure gamble?

[sannyhome]

"The company faced" insurmountable difficulties "in agreeing the requirements of the authorities for the construction of a private spaceport, as well as the impossibility of obtaining regulatory documents from the Ministry of Defense for the design of the rocket.
Pistos

[Vadim237]

Yes, it's a shame, of course - they worked and the officials said, "We don't care about you and your projects - go to the forest"

[UA3QHP]

Light "drank-start-up" office from Skolkovo.
We were able to cut about 2 million in 60 years and fled, apparently they were not allowed to go to the budget.
https://www.list-org.com/company/7948185/report
Whether it is between Roscosmos and MTKS LLC
https://www.rbc.ru/business/02/10/2020/5f73430a9a7947f665bf9af3
https://www.rtss.space/o-kompanii
https://www.list-org.com/company/12287970
Know how and with whom to work

[donavi49]

Well, their swing was definitely not in a camisole. Even in China, they would have been given a ride to an investor. It should be easier to start.

About 60 million and were not allowed to the budget. There is such a compact company RocketLab - they started with 300 thousand dollars and a garage, then New Zealand helped them, then investors, then NASA. As a result, they were able to launch a rocket that makes 7 launches a year (and in this 10+ according to the plan), working on missions to the Moon and Venus, building a potentially manned medium Neutron rocket and having a cost of over $ 5 billion even before the IPO.

But after 2 years of work and 300 thousand of collected money, they still did not even have Ateya (this is such a suborbital demonstrator). She flew only for 3 years.

[Vadim237]

Unfortunately, there was no drink. Kosmokurs really worked on the project within his means.

[SKIF555]

! It was necessary to put pressure on the environment - grants are provided, the dough is immeasurable. And that tourists will collect space debris! But what to do with him is to Greta from Sweden.

[LTMax]

I met such a review on the internet, I can not vouch for its compliance with reality:


"In QC, literally a couple of people work with something other than paper. You will have an interesting in meaning and boring form of work exclusively in the office at the computer. You will perfectly learn where which commas should be and where not. What words are allowed, and There is no bureaucracy, a wagon and a small cart. We adopt the "best" practices of state-owned companies. All conferences and exhibitions are in personal time. You will not communicate with anyone from the professional community - there is no time.
“A company that doesn’t know how to do anything wants to go to large-scale rocketry, to manned space exploration, to rocket-dynamic landing, to 30-fold reusability, and, preferably, all this at the same time. You will not see so many nearby nines in terms of reliability. Well, how long - fifty years? In such conditions, the first "flight" will not take place before the year 30. I do not envy future clients, it will be faster to make your own rocket and fly into space. So, are there any prospects at CC? I want to believe that someday they will appear. "

completely, who is interested, here - https://pravda-sotrudnikov.ru/company/kosmokurs/otzyv-368891.

[Simon schempp]

However, nothing new.
As the saying goes, if Elon Musk was born in Russia, he would now spend his first term for PayPal.

[Konnick]

Quote: Flood

main page of the site CosmoCourse from the cache

That's interesting.
For seven years we have been doing ISKK within the framework of the Skolkovo Foundation.

Mavrodi and MMM are resting

[Undecim]

Answering a question about the reasons for this decision, Pushkin explained that the company faced "insurmountable difficulties" in agreeing the requirements of the authorities for the construction of a private cosmodrome, as well as the impossibility of obtaining regulatory documents from the Ministry of Defense for the design of the rocket.
However, there is another answer.
"The main project is not possible to implement. It is too risky for an investor, since a lot has to be done first and there are no analogues in our country. And there are no customers for other projects, for example, an ultra-lightweight rocket," Pushkin replied to a TASS correspondent.
That is, everything can be much simpler - they no longer give money, since in seven years the company, in fact, has not created anything.

[Yuriy71]

The managers for the elimination of the Russian cosmonautics are successfully coping with their task! And do not be mischievous here! Who will understand the topic!

[Flooding]

Quote: Yuriy71

The managers for the elimination of the Russian cosmonautics are successfully coping with their task! And do not be mischievous here! Who will understand the topic!

I'm in the subject!
And what happened?

[slipped]

Quote: Flood

And what happened?

Farted.

[Flooding]

Quote: slipped

Farted

silly, it was a reference to the unforgettable Golden Calf

[slipped]

Quote: Flood

it was a reference to the unforgettable Golden Calf

And I didn't have a reference. Package. Clear?

[Bshkaus]

The private Russian company KosmoKurs, which previously received a license from Roskosmos for space activities, announced its closure.

Great news for the 60th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's flight, reflecting the real situation and prospects of Russian cosmonautics.
But Russia has a great and great past, in the rays of which we all so love to swim in spite of the future ((((

[slipped]

Quote: Bshkaus

reflecting the real situation and prospects of the national cosmonautics.

Wrong. Here is the real situation in Russian cosmonautics:

This morning, the Soyuz-2.1a space rocket (ILV) with the Soyuz MS-18 manned transport vehicle (TPK) was taken out of the launch vehicle assembly and test building and installed in the launch facility of site 31 of the Baikonur cosmodrome.

And here are the nearest prospects:

[Bshkaus]

Wrong. Here is the real situation in Russian cosmonautics:

You don't have to tell me, I see all this stuff every day, and I also know how they wanted to cut 40 specialists at Baikonur, and what kind of hack was there for these specialists.
And as our deliveries are regularly disrupted, I better keep silent

[slipped]

Quote: Bshkaus

you don't have to tell me, I see all this good every day

Then why lie then? You cannot see the Moon-25 every day, it is in the Lavka, preparing for the autumn launch.

Quote: Bshkaus

I also know how they wanted to lay off 40 specialists at Baikonur, and what was the hassle for these specialists.

Specialists for what? Accounting?

Quote: Bshkaus

And as our deliveries are regularly disrupted, I better keep silent

However, everything then flies away. Successfully.

[Bshkaus]

Then why lie then? belay You cannot see Moon-25 every day, it is in the Lavka, preparing for the autumn launch.

What are you talking about? Do you know that this project was conceived in 2005 and planned for launch in 2014? 16 years to develop a lunar automatic ship is a disgrace on a universal scale. And the project itself is technologically and morally outdated without having time to be realized. During this time, microelectronics, oh, how far has gone, and replacing it in a project is not changing a roll of toilet paper in the toilet.
So there is no need to talk about the great space achievements of modern Russia - we are in the deepest ...

[slipped]

Quote: Bshkaus

What are you talking about? Do you know that this project was conceived in 2005 and planned for launch in 2014?

I am aware that the project was conceived in '88. Google why Luna Globe.

Quote: Bshkaus

16 years to develop a lunar automatic ship is a disgrace on a universal scale.

There were other pressing issues besides this. Now hands have reached the moon. The assembly of the first devices is in full swing.

Quote: Bshkaus

And the project itself is technologically and morally outdated without having time to be realized.

Has anyone landed at the South Pole of the Moon earlier? Do you even know that Moon-25 is followed by Moons 26,27,28,29? And why? No?

Quote: Bshkaus

During this time, microelectronics, oh, how far has gone, and replacing it in a project is not changing a roll of toilet paper in the toilet.

Name you two lunar lander, which had the so-called. "modern electronics" that recently crashed while landing?

Quote: Bshkaus

So there is no need to talk about the great space achievements of modern Russia - we are in the deepest ...

Well, you are exactly there. And we are preparing new spacecraft for launch. So everything is fine with our achievements.

[grindz]

We would also make a space nuclear tug. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pRcIStdFbw). It would be cool if it really flies.

[slipped]

Quote: grindz

We would also make a space nuclear tug. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pRcIStdFbw). It would be cool if it really flies.

They will do it. Work is underway in this direction, and everything is financed intensively and on time. A compact nuclear reactor, the main energy component of the nuclear power plant has already been made. Now they are working on the motors themselves. There are at least three different applicants. Although combinations are possible.

[Knell wardenheart]

Private? ahaha. Private cosmod? ahahah. In Russia ? AHAHAA. Obtaining from the Ministry of Defense regulatory documents for rocket design? AHAHAH. IN THE NIZHNY NOVGOROD REGION ?? !! Here it is no longer funny, at all.
In general, all this was somewhat late by April 1, in fact, very funny. In a country woven of megalomonopolies, to try, in cooperation with the state, which has a paranoid habit of secreting everything in this area, to create a rocket and build its own cosmodrome, to put it mildly, far from the equator and, to put it mildly, an insufficiently uninhabited area - the idea was initially extremely dumb in each element separately, and together ...
Russian Ilona Masks should know one simple thing, or rather even two - 1) the HORN will not share with anyone)) It does not have such a large trough, the size of which is also narrowing.
2) With our historical attitude to the degree of admission to near-war technologies, there is nothing to count on the help of state monopolies and an adequate framework for some kind of business plans within these schemes. With our attitude to "law" and regulation, there is nothing to hope that you will be given to create your own rocket from 0.

[UA3QHP]

There is another option. Perhaps this office was not going to do anything, a possible amount of money was withdrawn and culturally merged. New Vasyuki failed.

[Knell wardenheart]

Well, given the fact that in the plan there was a cosmodrome in a not very good place for this and with a route over forests and cities - it is not excluded. If SUDDENLY I was the Russian Elon Musk, I would try to stay away from cooperation with Roscosmos and the Ministry of Defense as far as possible, because from the point of view of any business person who values ​​time and money, these are two potential black holes, in fact either outside the jurisdiction (Ministry of Defense) or extremely unhurried and with a very muddy pricing (Roscosmos). IMHO, taking into account our geography, there are basically two options - either to focus on some territory in the Far East and cooperation with Chinese manufacturers - Asian customers, or Sea Launch in about the same regions. Ideally, avoid any "help" and "cooperation" with state monopolies as much as possible and imagine in advance all the scale of hell that a corrupt bureaucracy can throw on its head - in this regard, either a VERY good plan is needed, providing for backdoors at all stages, or better in general, do not get involved with this, or at the worst end, do everything in advance so that you can wind up the business here and deploy somewhere else. (Sea Launch). All this is so, observations of course .. maybe I'm wrong about something.

[UA3QHP]

Yes, you can work with them, it's difficult, but you can. There would be a real desire to do something, and not draw a presentation.

[Avior]

There is already a sea launch, and the government stopped its implementation by banning Russian-Ukrainian missiles.
There are no other missiles.
Sea Launch stands and dries what it has ...

[Knell wardenheart]

I mean the concept itself. Ideally, the rocket should have its own intellectual property rights. With Ukraine, the same problems could arise - all the fault is outrageous corruption, kickbacks, a complex system of secrecy and inflexible management.

[Avior]

In these cases, I just do not see corruption, they did not demand money from them.
They were deliberately hindered in their work, some for departmental reasons, others for political reasons.
If a person gets his hands together, then he will not do anything.
Maybe, of course, he will not do anything even with his hands unbound, but to reproach the connected person for not doing anything is a strange position.

[Knell wardenheart]

Why do I consider the MS concept as the best one for our private astronautics? (although I do not believe that it can arise in our country, in our country the state traditionally hated and tried to exterminate everything private, especially all private "de facto" that is played with big toys) But if we assume that:
1) The MC platform is NOT real estate, but a man-made object, that is, it is impossible (or rather, much more difficult) to squeeze it out according to the schemes according to which real estate or land under real estate is squeezed out.
2) Since the MS platform is potentially transportable, in theory, no one bothers to wave a paw to a shitty environment and literally "take away" most of the business. In theory, I'll emphasize.
3) If the launches are carried out from neutral waters, then the state will have much less opportunity to get to the bottom of ecology and safety - and it loves to get to the bottom of this, when money is needed for a hairy paw.
4) In all honesty - private launches on "heavy-heavy" cannot be mastered right away and it is no use even thinking about it without a strong basis - that is, an easy-medium or medium carrier. For which the MC platform is quite well suited.

Of course, there are enough minuses, but the main plus is that your big brother will not drag your rebuilt business with the spaceport to the bottom to the bottom.

[Vadim237]

As Soyuz 5 will do so Sea Launch and come to life.

[Avior]

Russian Ilona Masks should know one simple thing

This one, for example
Just about "Russian Ilan Musk"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.lenta.ru/news/2018/04/16/ilonmask/amp/

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