"Hit a ground target with precision": The modernized ship "Marshal Shaposhnikov" was first fired by a "Caliber" rocket

Former BOD, now the Pacific Ocean frigate fleet "Marshal Shaposhnikov", was fired for the first time by the "Caliber" cruise missile. This is stated in the message of the Ministry of Defense.

According to the report, "Marshal Shaposhnikov" within the framework of training and combat missions, being at one of the naval ranges of the Pacific Fleet in the Sea of ​​Japan, launched a cruise missile "Caliber" at a ground target. The rocket, having covered more than one thousand kilometers, hit the target with precision.

At the estimated time, the rocket arrived at the test site in the area of ​​Cape Surkum, where it accurately hit the coastal target position. The firing range at the target exceeded a thousand kilometers

- said in a statement.

Last Sunday, the frigate performed artillery fire from the A-190 universal shipborne artillery mount, and also worked out interaction with the Ka-27 marine helicopter aviation TOF.

The area where the firing was carried out was closed off by ships and vessels of the Pacific Fleet, air cover was provided by the naval aviation of the fleet.

The former BOD "Marshal Shaposhnikov", retrained as frigates, underwent a major overhaul and modernization at Dalzavod. In the course of modernization, the ship received new weapons, including universal launchers for the placement of Kalibr, Onyx and, in the future, Zircon missiles.

The return of the frigate to the Pacific Fleet is planned for May this year.

Comments

[novel66]

Will there be anti-submarine exercises?

[Machito]

Hi Japs. Now KTOF has something to calibrate 55 Japanese nuclear reactors.
Hokkaido is a Russian land.

[novel66]

you at least the destroyers counted them .... and the number of air defense missiles on them ... they were already throwing their hats. at Tsushima ...

[Victor_B]

Quote: novel xnumx

they were already throwing their hats. at Tsushima ...

If we ignore nuclear weapons, then the Japanese have a much stronger fleet than ours in the Pacific ...
By the way, the Japanese have ALL the technologies to create nuclear weapons.
For the fact that they still have not done it, you need to thank the Americans.

[Roma 1977]

That is why Comrade Stalin forbade everyone to abstract themselves from nuclear weapons.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Roma-1977

That is why Comrade Stalin forbade everyone to abstract themselves from nuclear weapons.

Comrade Stalin was a pretty boy!

[Dread]

Quote: Roma-1977

Exactly therefore, Comrade Stalin forbade everyone to abstract themselves from nuclear weapons.

Please provide a link, otherwise it is not true!

[Roma 1977]

I apologize for the misinformation. In fact, Stalin, on the contrary, allowed everyone to abstract if they could.

[Denis Rumyanny]

Is this a joke? To catch up with South Korea by 2030.
For Japan, our Pacific Fleet simply does not exist.
Collect nuclear weapons for Japanese engineers for a couple of weeks, unless of course they have not done it for a long time as the Israelis.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Denis Rumyanny

Collect nuclear weapons for Japanese engineers for a couple of weeks, unless of course they have not done it for a long time

They did collect it and named it "Fukushima" - for ten years the phonite.

[Denis Rumyanny]

And there will be fonds for many more years. Do you want Vladivostok to phonil too?

[Nemchinov Vl]

Th did not understand ?! where did you go (deleted my comment)?
Interested in a few questions:
for how long and how do they plan to modernize Vinogradov and Levchenko?
So is the "Shaposhnikov", or with the addition / replacement of the ship's air defense system with the "Shtil-1" ?!
Has it been resolved (and how much) question with the restoration of the gas turbine engine for power plants of ships pr. 1155 ?! And if so, how?
After all, without this, all the possibilities for the modernization of these ships will be simply doomed ?!
Is this a socially dangerous comment to delete ?!

[nerd.su]

Quote: Denis Rumyanny

Collect nuclear weapons to Japanese engineers for a couple of weeks

Come on. Well, even so. And they rivet a lot of charges? Do they have uranium deposits?
Will the Americans calmly watch how the Japanese, whom they have subjected to atomic bombings, acquire their own nuclear weapons?

[Denis Rumyanny]

Americans will "express deep concern" like Pakistan or Israel. Well, it's very deep.
And backstage they will pat on the shoulder. Nobody is going to bang from an airplane or underground explosions. Everything is done in the laboratory by microexplosions.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Denis Rumyanny

Americans will "express deep concern" like Pakistan or Israel. Well, it's very deep.
And backstage they will pat on the shoulder.

I strongly doubt it. If the Japanese have their own nuclear weapons in the right amount, they can reconsider their attitude towards American military bases on their territory, the need for them in general for such an ally as the United States and their own position in the Far East and in the world.
So what about the Japanese uranium reserves?

[Maxim Shalak]

Microexplosions with microchain microreaction on microneutrons. Another would be to figure out how to create a microbrush ...

[Stepan S]

How do you imagine "laboratory microexplosions"? But what about the critical mass?

[clerk]

... Collect nuclear weapons for Japanese engineers for a couple of weeks, unless of course they have not done it for a long time as the Israelis.

Well collected. Then what - how to use it?

[Denis Rumyanny]

Then wait for the moment with an ace (YAO) in your sleeve. The moment of war on the outskirts or the crisis of power in Russia, coronation and so on.

[clerk]

... Then wait for the moment with an ace (YAO) up your sleeve. The moment of war on the outskirts or the crisis of power in Russia, coronavirus, etc.

So Japan is still waiting for this, why does she need nuclear weapons? Well, let's imagine - Russia strikes nuclear weapons on a Japanese amphibious formation in a 12-mile zone, what should Japan do?

[Denis Rumyanny]

What amphibious unit, what 12 mile zone, are you out of your mind? Blocking the fleet in the bays of Vladivostok and Kamchatka. Mine barriers. Methodically carry out the Pacific Fleet for HUNDREDS of kilometers from submarines and aviation. Our rockets SHOOT down on the Aegis. Further negotiations on the status of the "northern territories"
21st century in the yard, and you are about some kind of landing.

[clerk]

... What amphibious unit, what 12 mile zone, are you out of your mind? Blocking the fleet in the bays of Vladivostok and Kamchatka. Mine barriers. Methodically carry out the Pacific Fleet for HUNDREDS of kilometers from submarines and aviation. Our rockets SHOOT down on the Aegis. Further negotiations on the status of the "northern territories"
21st century in the yard, and you are about some kind of landing.

Are you an hour away from Ukraine? Very similar to theirs "strategy for the de-occupation of Crimea." Like "push a little," "threaten a little," "the whole world is with us," and Russia will surrender itself. Missile shootings are not in Japan's interests, even in a purely military sense - Japan is too close, densely populated, and dependent on infrastructure and imports. And with the economy they have no ice for such postrelushki.

[Denis Rumyanny]

The last refuge of a Putriot in a dispute is whether you are a Ukrainian or an agent of America. But this does not change the alignment at the Pacific Fleet. In your opinion, stupid Japanese landing on embrasures is in the interests of Japan? It's funny. They will wait for a suitable situation like 1904, 1918, then it's a matter of technology. But not the landing.

[clerk]

... The last refuge of a Putriot in a dispute is whether you are a Ukrainian or an agent of America. But this does not change the alignment at the Pacific Fleet. In your opinion, stupid Japanese landing on embrasures is in the interests of Japan? It's funny. They will wait for a suitable situation like 1904, 1918, then it's a matter of technology. But not the landing.

Precisely that of the landing. Just in 1904, and in 1918 and in 1945 (including in the Far East), the issue of victory was not decided by turmoil, negotiations, threats, sanctions, shelling of the coast and not even air and sea battles, but the boot of a soldier.

[Denis Rumyanny]

Issues were resolved by ships and aircraft, money and contracts.
A Japanese boot in Vladivostok or Sakhalin is just a cherry on the cake for Japanese diplomacy, the Japanese economy, aviation and the navy.
It's another matter when there is none of this, but there are many tarpaulin boots - you can use grenades on tanks, women will give birth to new ones. Only women no longer want to give birth. Migrants from Asia are helping Putinomik. But they will put on the boots is a big question.

[clerk]

... Issues were resolved by ships and aircraft, money and contracts.
A Japanese boot in Vladivostok or Sakhalin is just a cherry on the cake for Japanese diplomacy, the Japanese economy, aviation and the navy.

Do you seriously believe that the fate of the RYAV was decided under Tsushima, and not under Kinzhou, Liaoliang, Shah, Port Arthur and Mukden?

[Denis Rumyanny]

The fate of the RYAV was decided by a Russian destroyer called the Trans-Siberian Railway. As it should be in a continental country.
The fate of Port Arthur, Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands was decided by the Japanese fleet.
As it should be in a maritime island country.
We are discussing in the thread dedicated to "Marshal Shaposhnikov". In fact, a floating dock with an arsenal of missiles with near zero air defense and anti-aircraft defense. Very coolly resembles floating batteries "popovka"
This means that nothing has changed in 100 years. Maybe we just throw our hats higher, we shout louder, "God save the Tsar," we sing more hysterically.

[clerk]

... The fate of the RYAV was decided by a Russian destroyer called the Trans-Siberian Railway. As it should be in a continental country.
The fate of Port Arthur, Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands was decided by the Japanese fleet.
As it should be in a maritime island country.

Lord, what are you talking about? How are the defeats at Kinzhou, on the distant approaches to Port Arthur, Liaolian, Mukden and the failure at Shah connected with the Trans-Siberian Railway? And the Kuriles have something to do with it? (Hand face).

... We are discussing in the thread dedicated to "Marshal Shaposhnikov". In fact, a floating dock with an arsenal of missiles with near zero air defense and anti-aircraft defense. Very coolly reminiscent of floating batteries "popovka"
This means that nothing has changed in 100 years. Maybe we just throw our hats higher, we shout louder, "God save the Tsar," we sing more hysterically.

The difference is that we can destroy the Japanese landing force with a couple of nuclear strikes, the destruction of the Pacific Fleet) (blocking it at the bases) in the operational sense will give the Japanese almost nothing. Long-range missile firefight while awaiting negotiations is even less profitable for the Japanese than for Russia. And it is also possible to disable Japanese electronics with a powerful air nuclear explosion. And in this regard, the presence of the Japanese nuclear weapons does not change anything.

[maratkoRuEkb]

"Collect nuclear weapons for Japanese engineers for a couple of weeks" - have you played the game? in reality, it does not work that way, to assemble nuclear weapons, it requires competencies, proven technologies, materials, components, it is necessary to create an entire industry from scratch, specialists need to be trained. In a couple of weeks, Japanese engineers will only create a booger from the nose. It is in the game that you moved the slider, there is more money in science, and by magic, the technology is ready, reality and games are different.

And about microexplosions in the laboratory, I can finally laugh at you)) sofa specialist, sit still, don't shame))

[Dread]

Quote: Victor_B

If we abstract from nuclear weapons, then the Japanese have a much stronger fleet than ours in the Pacific ...

Dear Victor_B, Nuclear weapons are a deterrent! Therefore, only the presence of nuclear weapons is holding back the start of World War III. The USA themselves, called their nuclear weapons a deterrent against the presence of hypersonic weapons in Russia - the speech of the US generals in Congress. Therefore, let's not abstract ourselves.

[Barberry25]

I will reveal a terrible secret - you can always assemble a fleet stronger than ours - therefore, in the event of a cut, the forces of the Aerospace Forces and armies from all over the country will be involved

[APASUS]

Quote: Victor_B

By the way, the Japanese have ALL the technologies to create nuclear weapons.
For the fact that they still have not done it, you need to thank the Americans.

There is a suspicion that the earthquake happened for a reason and the Fukushima NPP dumped water into the ocean from cooling the reactors for a reason. There are a lot of questions, why, for example, firefighters were not allowed to cool the nuclear rods to the storage?
Alternatively, it was Japan's nuclear program that caused such unusual behavior.

[smart ass]

And they have long-range aviation and balls with bastions?

[Machito]

In terms of its composition, the Japanese fleet almost exceeds all our fleets combined, with the exception of the strategic nuclear forces. But Japan itself is very vulnerable, because it is located on a small island mountainous territory with a population concentrated in three urban agglomerations, all energy carriers (oil, gas) are imported, stored in terminals on the coast, 55 Fukushima to provide electricity. At the same time, Japan does not have a peace treaty with the Russian Federation based on the results of WWII and constantly makes territorial claims, builds up its fleet, which can no longer be called a defense fleet. They do not attack us just because they are afraid that we will glaze the islands. For our safety, we need to constantly remind them that we will turn the islands uninhabited by ANY aggression. We still have enough forces to implement this scenario, but we need to build up the forces and capabilities of our fleet and aviation.
And yes, Hokkaido was once a Russian island before it became Japanese. We need to constantly remind them that we have counter territorial claims, and more abruptly than the Japanese ones.

[Ros 56]

And in 45 everything looked different, so forget about Tsushima.

[novel66]

Did I miss something? did our Pacific Fleet melt all Japanese aviks and battleships?

[Ros 56]

Was it necessary already? There is no serious question yet. And where did you get the idea that this is the prerogative of the Pacific Fleet only, the current wars will be complex.

[novel66]

I am trying to convey the idea that our fleet, as it was not competent in 1904, so little has changed, and ridiculous attempts to develop plans for victory over the Japanese at sea are not even funny anymore ...

[Ros 56]

We already know how much we hear these fairy tales, it's time to change the record. The ISIS people felt it on their own skin.

[novel66]

this is the same war with the Papuans, in which we blame the amers and laugh at them, it is not great merit of the Arabs to drive through the dunes without air defense

[Ros 56]

Actually, I meant the work of our Calibers from the Caspian Sea. You seem to understand, since the conversation is about long-range weapons. And besides Calibers, you yourself know there are many other goodies for those who want to excel.

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Are you in your mind? What kind of air defense do they have? The Aegis system is a missile defense system! Designed for kinetic interception of ballistic missile warheads!

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

You are out of your mind! Their Ijes is needed for the kinetic interception of ballistic missiles!

[novel66]

learn materiel

Uskov mines should simultaneously house Tomahawk cruise missiles, as well as Sea Sparrow air defense missiles and ASroc PLO missiles, the number of which is determined by the combat missions of each warship

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Yes ... ah! Learn materiel! Protivarable missiles units. !

[Kalmar]

Quote: Bearded

Now KTOF has something to calibrate 55 Japanese nuclear reactors

To do this, you must first resolve something with the air defense. In its current form, "Shaposhnikov" can work with anti-ship missiles too quickly.

[bayard]

Quote: Kalmar

In its current form, "Shaposhnikov" can work with anti-ship missiles too quickly.

From low-altitude anti-ship missiles it has just quite good protection - "Dagger". But for targets at medium and long range - alas. But all the next BOD 1155 will be upgraded according to a new project - with a medium-range air defense system ("Calm"), with 32 missile launchers in 4 UKSK and with 16 anti-ship missiles X-35 "Uran". And these will be ships with completely different capabilities.
And from an anti-ship missile of the "Harpoon" \ "Tomahawk" type, its air defense will cope.

[Charik]

A couple of dozen Harpoons / Axes are suitable and how many of them he can fire + if there are still any obstacles if he is put

[bayard]

Quote: Charik

A couple of dozen Harpoons / Axes will do

A couple of dozen low-altitude, even subsonic anti-ship missiles and "Burke" will work quite well if attacked in dense formation from one angle - overloading the air defense capabilities in simultaneous shelling of a maximum number of targets.
But against small groups of anti-ship missiles "Dagger" is very effective - this is the naval version of "Torah". ask about its capabilities. But the medium-range air defense system was very lacking for this project. Installation of "Calm" was planned at the end of the USSR in the 90s, during modernization with medium repair. As well as the UKSK installation for "Granatov" and "Onyxes".

[Stepan S]

"Shaposhnikov" "Caliber" can shoot from the wall in Vladivostok at any target in Japan and is under the cover of air defense

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Who will work? If there are two modern frigates to cover! Why is the site constantly reviewed one-on-one? Will he go to the states? Just compare the range of our missiles and the Harpoon family! Until Japan and the berenic aviation cover will hold out!

[Bradley]

Hi Japs. hi Now KTOF has something to calibrate 55 Japanese nuclear reactors.
Hokkaido is a Russian land.

For example, Atago can carry 96 Axes, and Takanami can carry 64 Axes. And these are classes, not single ships.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Bradley

For example, Atago can carry 96 Axes, and Takanami can carry 64 Axes.

Without denying the superiority of the Japanese destroyers in terms of striking power (after all, a destroyer against a frigate, as expected), I will nevertheless note:
1. "Maybe" and "carries" are different things. In real life, most of the cells will be occupied by missiles.
2. "Axes" are not being put on Japanese destroyers now: they say, this is an offensive weapon that the Japs are not supposed to. However, it is likely that they, "axes", can be easily loaded into the PU.

[Bradley]

Without denying the superiority of the Japanese destroyers in terms of striking power (after all, a destroyer against a frigate, as expected), I will nevertheless note:
1. "Maybe" and "carries" are different things. In real life, most of the cells will be occupied by missiles.
2. "Axes" are not being put on Japanese destroyers now: they say, this is an offensive weapon that the Japs are not supposed to. However, it is likely that they, "axes", can be easily loaded into the PU.

The configuration there may be different, depending on the task. For example, Takanami and Sadzanami can only be armed with SAMs to cover Suzunami or Akizuki with hammered Axes. Or it may be that 50/50 in the same Takanami, i.e. 48 SAM and 48 Axes. In the event of a conflict, I have no doubt that the Axes will be delivered.
Yes, a destroyer is a good thing.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Bradley

For example, Takanami and Sadzanami can only be armed with SAMs to cover Suzunami or Akizuki with hammered Axes.

As Chuck Norris taught:

don't put all your eggs in one scrotum

In the sense that the weapons are still trying to "smear" on different ships in the event of the loss of any of them.

The question is also what threats from our side the Japanese will have to prepare for: if it is possible to pull together significant forces of aviation and ships with missile defense, each Japanese destroyer will have to be packed with missiles as tightly as possible. Well, if they don't expect much resistance, then yes, "axes" to the eyeballs. This is also about the question of whether we need a strong Pacific Fleet))

[Bradley]

In the sense that the weapons are still trying to "smear" on different ships in the event of the loss of any of them.

So they smear it. A bit of that, a bit of that. It is rather an indicator of the possibility itself.

The question is also what threats from our side the Japanese will have to prepare for: if it is possible to pull together significant forces of aviation and ships with missile defense, each Japanese destroyer will have to be packed with missiles as tightly as possible. Well, if they don't expect much resistance, then yes, "axes" to the eyeballs. This is also about the question of whether we need a strong Pacific Fleet))

It is quite expected that the enemy for the Japanese Navy will be the Pacific Fleet. Here the strategy will depend on how the Pacific Fleet will be used. However, given the Japanese destroyers and helicopter carriers with submarines, they have a wide choice in tactics. They can afford much more than the Pacific Fleet.

[Denis Rumyanny]

Kindergarten, Chesslovo. Yapi will be racked up in 2 minutes from submarine aviation. What remains from the submarines will be finished. Destroyers will be launched last, if there is still something left in the Pacific Fleet by that time. And then as mine directors. SAMs will perfectly sweep transports and tankers and pelvis like Karakurt and Ovodov. But this is if after. aviation, something will remain.

[Charik]

-14 destroyers were commissioned in one decade

[smart ass]

How many calibers are on board?

[tralflot1832]

Well done !!! Probably shot at the Kura. I love this project, BAT m fishing, horseradish can be distinguished on the horizon. Bat m "Horizon type", destroyer hull.

[tlauicol]

Cape Surkum is north of Vanino, Tatar Strait

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Why didn't they show a hit again ?!

With a hit, it would be at times more effective and more indicative.

[Avior]

The hit is too informative for reconnaissance
The type of target, the accuracy of the hit, the environment - all this speaks of the noise immunity and accuracy of the guidance head, and will naturally arouse the interest of people in the topic.
Start-up carries much less information.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Avior

The hit is too informative for reconnaissance

Americans publish such cuts without much hesitation.

Quote: Avior

Target type, hitting accuracy, environment - all this speaks about the noise immunity and accuracy of the aiming head

The target type is almost always "concrete shed, 1 piece". It is unlikely that it will be possible to assess the noise immunity from the video: the radio waves are poorly visible. It makes sense to hide the accuracy only if everything is straightforwardly bad with it.

It seems to me that this is not a matter of secrecy; it's just that MO doesn't really like to bother working with the media.

[Avior]

Caliber has a radar homing system at the terminal site. Therefore, metal structures nearby can knock down guidance. This is an important aspect of protection.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Avior

metal structures nearby can knock down guidance

And then how to target ships? They are mostly metal)
In general, I have not heard that metal structures in the target area would be such a problem for missiles of this type. Then, you can not put them side by side if you are working "on camera".

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The United States is spreading out and nothing, something is not strong, our intelligence learned something new, except that the US missiles really hit targets accurately.

I would like their intelligence and everyone else to know this too.

There will be less desire to go to war against Russia.

[Roma 1977]

The operator got too close. Karoch, the video will be next time.

[K-50]

Was it instead of the second turret installation, a set of "calibers" delivered? 16 missile module?

[alexmach]

Exactly. It looks quite empty now.

[Ulysses]

Empty doesn't mean harmless.
16 calibers are not huhry-muhry.

[kig]

I wonder why it was called a frigate - with a displacement of more than 7000 tons. Why not show
Further: there is a launch of the Caliber on the video, and why not show the hit as well? Is it secret data?

[alexmach]

why was it called a frigate

According to its capabilities.

[donavi49]

He has practically no air defense, only self-defense. Saved on this.

A destroyer is not only about displacement. 16 KR + SAM MD is quite a frigate. And in terms of displacement, it is 500 tons heavier than FREMM, for example, which also has 16 KR for 600 miles in the Lo-Lo profile, that is, at an extremely low altitude, the entire flight.

But the last Japanese destroyer is heavier than its 2000 tons.

[voyaka uh]

Caliber hits were shown during attacks on ISIS targets in Syria.
It can be seen, on average, that the KVO Caliber is about 20 m.
Usually, the rockets hit the front wall of a large building,
collapsing its facade and partially destroying it.
Or hit the front wall.
There were no hits on the center of the roof of the buildings.
This accuracy is sufficient for demolishing buildings, but not enough
for hitting bunkers and other point targets.

[mvg]

this with a displacement of more than 7000 tons

Look at the deadweight of Norwegian frigates, F125 German, British Type 26 ... what is the actual problem. Armament is generally a corvette.

[kig]

Quote: mvg

Armament in general is a corvette.

Well, if in terms of armament, then okay. Let it be a corvette. No problem.

[iouris]

"Hit" or "missed" (not hit). If "precision" is defined, then the deviation from the center of the target is measured (precision is the reciprocal of the miss).

[Fisherman]

With islands so weak in terms of tectonic stability, swinging dozens of warships, even nuclear weapons, or blasters against us, is suicide. So even this ship with calibers will be enough for the Japanese fleet to become entirely fishing with a postscript in South Korea.

[Charik]

again, some began to defeat everyone with one ship