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"One of the first": The special forces regiment of the Southern Military District was completely re-equipped with a new AK-12 assault rifle

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The special purpose regiment of the Southern Military District has been completely re-equipped with new AK-12 Kalashnikov assault rifles. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense, the special forces received another batch of new machine guns.


A batch of the newest AK-12 assault rifles entered service with the special forces regiment in the Stavropol Territory, thereby completing its rearmament with a new assault rifle. A total of 300 machines were included in the batch. As specified in the military department, the regiment was one of the first in which the AK-12 completely replaced the AK-74M. In total, more than 150 thousand AK-12 and AK-15 assault rifles are planned to be delivered to the Russian Armed Forces within the framework of a three-year contract.

It is noted that the AK-12 has an increased accuracy of fire, barrel survivability and improved ergonomics. It has three firing modes: single, automatic and burst with a two-shot cut-off. On the weapon a removable muzzle brake-compensator is installed, it is possible to install a low-noise and flameless firing device. The buttstock is foldable, adjustable in length, there is a Picatinny rail on the receiver. A 40-mm grenade launcher is installed on the machine.

The Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle entered service in 2018. As previously stated in the Ministry of Defense, in the army, it mainly replaces the AK-74M. The assault rifle was developed as part of the Ratnik program and is included in it as one of the elements of a promising complex for equipping fighters of the RF Armed Forces.

Caliber - 5,45x39 mm, weapon length in firing position - 880-940 mm, with folded stock - 690 mm, weight without cartridges - 3,5 kg, rate of fire - 700 rounds per minute.
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  1. Pastor
    Pastor April 5 2021 13: 43
    +4
    Still AK. There were 2 options, or did I miss something?
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 5 2021 13: 47
      +11
      The second option is also accepted for service, but it is recommended only for special forces, and the AK is recommended for everyone. AK has a large production base, and it will be the main one.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding April 5 2021 13: 50
        +10
        Quote: Roma-1977
        The second option is also accepted for service, but is recommended only for special forces.

        comrade is therefore interested in the fact that the news is just about special forces
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor April 5 2021 14: 23
        +4
        And AEK already "no one needs"?
      3. Old tanker
        Old tanker April 5 2021 17: 22
        +5
        Only the special forces did not receive the Kovrov AEK. Everywhere while there is an AK-12. And the reason is not at all small production areas, but in the lobbying of a particular concern.
    2. Flooding
      Flooding April 5 2021 13: 48
      +3
      Quote: Pastor
      Still AK. There were 2 options, or did I miss something?

      AEK-971 and AEK-973 entered service.
      But no supply contracts have been heard yet.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder April 5 2021 13: 52
        +1
        AEK-971 and AEK-973 adopted
        And what about them, with the cost !? Simply, if the memory does not fail, these products are more difficult to manufacture than the 12th and 15th versions from the Kalashnikov Concern ???
        1. Flooding
          Flooding April 5 2021 13: 55
          +4
          Quote: Intruder
          Simply, if the memory does not fail, these products are more difficult to manufacture than the 12th and 15th versions from the Kalashnikov Concern ???

          memory serves you
          and more expensive and more difficult
          therefore in limited quantities for special forces
          means that the characteristics are worthy
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn April 5 2021 14: 16
            +5
            Quote: Flood
            more expensive and more difficult
            therefore in limited quantities for special forces

            But it's really interesting ... what
            AEK surpasses AK in a number of parameters, the main of which are accuracy and accuracy. But it loses out in terms of price and ease of maintenance. It was announced that it was put into service, BUT the SpetsNaz regiment is arming the AK. Why??? Or is it not "that" SpetsNaz ..?
            My opinion: AEK is not ready for long-term use in the field. And it is intended for use in separate (departmental) units of SpetsNaz, of narrow specialization.
            1. Sergey_G_M
              Sergey_G_M April 5 2021 15: 18
              +3
              The main advantage of the AEK is stability when firing in bursts.
              Would make a new PKK on the basis of AEK it would be better for everyone. The power of Kovrov will not be able to pull a massive machine gun, but such a PKK is quite, and the price would not be so decisive here. Then both Kovrov and Izhevsk would have been loaded, but nothing else.
              1. Old tanker
                Old tanker April 5 2021 17: 28
                +2
                If desired, it is possible to connect a production line to AEK and Tula on the same Kalashnikov. But the fact of the matter is that the Defense Ministry has no desire to distribute AEK among the troops. Most likely, the fate of the AN-94 awaits him. They were accepted into service, but in the troops there were only demonstration vehicles for familiarization.
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 April 5 2021 15: 26
              0
              Quote: LiSiCyn
              Quote: Flood
              more expensive and more difficult
              therefore in limited quantities for special forces

              But it's really interesting ... what
              AEK surpasses AK in a number of parameters, the main of which are accuracy and accuracy. But it loses out in terms of price and ease of maintenance. It was announced that it was put into service, BUT the SpetsNaz regiment is arming the AK. Why??? Or is it not "that" SpetsNaz ..?
              My opinion: AEK is not ready for long-term use in the field. And it is intended for use in separate (departmental) units of SpetsNaz, of narrow specialization.

              Something I did not find among the intelligence units of any special forces regiment (well, except for the 45th Airborne Regiment). Maybe a typo.
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn April 5 2021 15: 28
                +1
                Quote: Doliva63
                Maybe a typo.

                Maybe BB ...? what
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 April 5 2021 15: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: LiSiCyn
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Maybe a typo.

                  Maybe BB ...? what

                  In the open access I found a detachment of "special forces" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Stavropol Territory, but this pulls the regiment request
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis April 5 2021 17: 51
                    -1
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Quote: LiSiCyn
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Maybe a typo.

                    Maybe BB ...? what

                    In the open access I found a detachment of "special forces" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Stavropol Territory, but this pulls the regiment request

                    "A batch of the newest AK-12 assault rifles entered service with the special forces regiment in the Stavropol Territory, thereby completing its rearmament with a new assault rifle... A total of 300 machines were included in the batch. As specified in the military department, the regiment was one of the first in which the AK-12 completely replaced the AK-74M. " the key party here is a batch of 300 submachine guns .. Not a regiment, but most likely a special task force! The author has beguiled ..
              2. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn April 5 2021 15: 40
                0
                Quote: Doliva63
                Something I did not find among the intelligence units of any special forces regiment

                Of the options for 247 Guards Air Force "Cossack", Stavropol. And 30th detachment SpetsNaz of the Interior Ministry "Svyatogor", Stavropol.
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 April 5 2021 16: 25
                  0
                  Quote: LiSiCyn
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Something I did not find among the intelligence units of any special forces regiment

                  Of the options for 247 Guards Air Force "Cossack", Stavropol. And 30th detachment SpetsNaz of the Interior Ministry "Svyatogor", Stavropol.

                  247 GvDShP is disbanded, isn't it? And I already said about the "squad of apetsnaz" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - this does not pull the regiment.
                  1. LiSiCyn
                    LiSiCyn April 5 2021 16: 33
                    0
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    247 GvDShP is disbanded, isn't it?

                    Yes sir. Rechecked.
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    on the regiment it does not pull.

                    Maybe deployed to the regiment? what
                    I did not find other options for Stavropol.
                    1. Doliva63
                      Doliva63 April 5 2021 16: 45
                      0
                      Quote: LiSiCyn
                      Quote: Doliva63
                      247 GvDShP is disbanded, isn't it?

                      Yes sir. Rechecked.
                      Quote: Doliva63
                      on the regiment it does not pull.

                      Maybe deployed to the regiment? what
                      I did not find other options for Stavropol.

                      Means, a mistake in the news. Such news is worthless.
                      1. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor April 5 2021 17: 32
                        +1
                        At the same address where my school was, now the headquarters of the 49th Army, and in the same place - I do not remember the number of the unit .. a spetsnaz regiment, specialization - mining .. an acquaintance serves there .. so everything is correct ...
                      2. Old tanker
                        Old tanker April 5 2021 17: 34
                        +1
                        No typo. We are talking about the 25th regiment of the Special Forces 49 OA YuVO. It is included in the 49th OA (YuVO).
                        Formed in 2011
                        Was staffed with officers and contract soldiers from 22 special brigades, 10 brigades and 33 orbs (g).
                      3. Doliva63
                        Doliva63 April 5 2021 18: 06
                        0
                        Quote: Old Tanker
                        No typo. We are talking about the 25th regiment of the Special Forces 49 OA YuVO. It is included in the 49th OA (YuVO).
                        Formed in 2011
                        Was staffed with officers and contract soldiers from 22 special brigades, 10 brigades and 33 orbs (g).

                        Thanks. Found. Lagged behind life, apparently, completely. A regiment (!) Of special reconnaissance (!) To guard the Olympics - so complete nonsense. It would be interesting to see the regiment staff, how it correlates with the OBRSPN staff.
                      4. ccsr
                        ccsr April 5 2021 19: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        Thanks. Found. Lagged behind life, apparently, completely. A regiment (!) Of special reconnaissance (!) To guard the Olympics - so complete nonsense.

                        This is definitely nonsense, because they used to get along with a company, and they believed that this was enough for the Army. But apparently the regiment was formed by those who have no idea what the special forces should do, so on the wave of fashion they decided to differ, taking as a basis the special forces regiment from the Airborne Forces. In general, you will understand why all this was done, but I think that one special forces detachment for the Combined Arms Army would be quite enough, and even in excess.
          2. Old tanker
            Old tanker April 5 2021 17: 32
            0
            The 45th regiment has long been a brigade.
            Meet.
            25th separate special-purpose regiment of the GRU (Stavropol)
            Included in the 49th OA (YuVO).
            Formed in 2011, it was originally staffed with officers and contractors from 22 special brigades, 10 brigades and 33 orbs (g).
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 April 5 2021 18: 16
              -1
              Quote: Old Tanker
              The 45th regiment has long been a brigade.
              Meet.
              25th separate special-purpose regiment of the GRU (Stavropol)
              Included in the 49th OA (YuVO).
              Formed in 2011, it was originally staffed with officers and contractors from 22 special brigades, 10 brigades and 33 orbs (g).

              I don't really follow the Airborne Forces, I missed about the 45th regiment. He was not needed at all in the Airborne Forces. In its place once stood another regiment, very useful, in my opinion.
              1. ROSS_51
                ROSS_51 April 5 2021 21: 15
                0
                Quote: Doliva63

                I don't really follow the Airborne Forces, I missed about the 45th regiment. He was not needed at all in the Airborne Forces. In its place once stood another regiment, very useful, in my opinion.

                First, look at the combat path of this regiment and how many Heroes of Russia there are, then judge which regiment is more useful ..
          3. ROSS_51
            ROSS_51 April 5 2021 21: 13
            +1
            Quote: Doliva63

            Something I did not find among the intelligence units of any special forces regiment (well, except for the 45th Airborne Regiment). Maybe a typo.

            The 45th regiment has long been the 45th separate guards order of Kutuzov and Alexander Nevsky, a special purpose brigade of the Airborne Forces.
      2. Intruder
        Intruder April 5 2021 18: 33
        +1
        means that the characteristics are worthy
        well, this is just not surprising, because the optimal solution was used among gas-operated automatics, although I am not a fan of this solution, but I take off my hat, they did it well:
        the new AEK uses a balanced automation scheme. With this arrangement, a special balancer was added to the automation unit, equal in mass to the bolt group. It is connected to the bolt carrier using a special carriage made of gear and rack. The pinion axle is rigidly fixed in the receiver. The balance bar and frame pistons act as the front and rear walls of the gas chamber. The gas piston of the rifle is hollow. After a shot has occurred, both pistons move simultaneously in opposite directions. Due to one speed and one mass, mutual compensation of impulses occurs. Thus, in the process of firing, the displacement of the weapon is minimal due to the balance of the automation.

        And the design, really hardcore and brutal, for a killer product in the literal sense laughing , nothing superfluous from the newfangled "whistles and ...." with rails of different lengths, wherever possible and impossible:

        (2006, early sample)
        (2012)

        (in 5,45 mm., version)
  • Bradley
    Bradley April 5 2021 18: 30
    0
    There were two options. The first option is a heavily redesigned AK, with a new gearbox, a slide delay and much more. The second option, which goes to the army, is simply a tuned AK-74.
    1. -Dmitry-
      -Dmitry- April 6 2021 08: 21
      0
      So the XK-417 can also be called a tuned M-16 / M-4. The same SCAR highly tuned M-16.
  • xorek
    xorek April 5 2021 14: 01
    -3
    Not bad, of course, but I think Soviet AK and SVD and Mosin rifles are still in the price of special forces and other soldiers Reliable and lethal long-range weapons, and this is the main thing in battle to survive and complete the task .. I think so! soldier
    And then we'll see ..
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat April 5 2021 14: 06
      +4
      Do not look at the SPETSNAZ TV series at night. )
      1. xorek
        xorek April 5 2021 14: 21
        -4
        Quote: Canecat
        Do not look at the SPETSNAZ TV series at night. )

        I don’t look laughing ..I prefer to read my memoirs and so on wink
    2. Petrik66
      Petrik66 April 5 2021 14: 10
      -3
      forgot about the mace - this is a weapon, as he gave an adversary in the head - no misfires.
      1. xorek
        xorek April 5 2021 14: 23
        -4
        Quote: Petrik66
        forgot about the mace - this is a weapon, as he gave an adversary in the head - no misfires.

        You'd better explain to this weirdo ..
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor April 5 2021 14: 26
      0
      I think the spetsnaz would prefer bolts with their range and accuracy, and the new ak seems to have a range and accuracy higher than the old ak.
      And in urban battles it is
  • YOUR
    YOUR April 5 2021 14: 08
    -3
    In 2018, the machine went into production.
    It was announced that 50 units will be produced per year. Those. per year the number of machine guns for 000 brigades. And then the regiment was rearmed and from time to time the infa seeps out separate intelligence units in various districts.
    Why are words and deeds so different.?
    1. xorek
      xorek April 5 2021 14: 38
      -3
      Quote: YOUR
      Why are words and deeds so different.?

      It happens sometimes, but the task must be completed soldier And it doesn't matter how and with what weapon, but at least without a weapon .. Whoever is comfortable and this is the whole point, the main thing is to complete soldier
    2. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 April 5 2021 14: 38
      0
      AK-12 and 15 are good.
      But here's the question: What to do with the millions of AK-74s and AKMs in warehouses?
      I mean, the new one is great, but the old one in storage should also be used.
      Here in the DPR-LPR, for example, they did not abandon a couple of thousand AK-74s and AKMs from storage + ammunition and under-barrel grenade launchers ... In the Syrian army, again, they also do not mind ...
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 April 5 2021 14: 43
        +2
        It depends on what caliber. 5.45X39 unpopular ammunition in the world. But 7.62X39 is another matter.
        1. mojohed2012
          mojohed2012 April 5 2021 14: 46
          0
          I read that the legendary AK-47 is still in storage.
          In general, the weapons of the mountain, the main thing is to correctly dispose of them.
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor April 7 2021 02: 03
        0
        Can a part be converted and sold for hunting?
  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 5 2021 14: 29
    -2
    With such a weapon, this is not special forces at all.
    AEK drowned purposefully
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 5 2021 14: 52
      -5
      The stars have formed in such a way that only Kalashnikov can make shooters massively, cheaply and on time. Despite the fact that other manufacturers also have an interesting product. There is no need to look for malicious intent here.
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 5 2021 15: 14
        -2
        It is evil, and still arrogant
  • beeper
    beeper April 5 2021 15: 22
    +5
    In my youth, among other things, our Soviet weapons, I had a chance to shoot a lot from 7.62mm AKM and 5.45mm AKS-74, and operate them in the field.
    I must note with gratitude that our Soviet Motherland and the Working Soviet People did NOT save ammunition and related resources on our (my and my comrades') rifle training, achieving mastery of the entrusted weapon ...
    I am quite familiar with the history and material part of firearms, as well as with the history of creation, testing and development in production, design and technological features of these automatic rifles of the "AK family".
    I also have sufficient (almost 40 years) design and technological engineering (including all the main working professions in mechanical engineering) production experience.
    Therefore, I consider myself entitled express your own military engineering opinion on this "model" "Concern K. (alas, I know from experience that criticism of" KK "and its figures is fraught with the removal of the commentary, coupled with" defeat in rights ")."
    I consider "AK-12" a complete profanation of ideas and concepts that were originally incorporated into the "family" of AK-47-AK-74 assault rifles by their creators-designers MT Kalashnikov and his comrades!
    Suffice it to look at the complicated incomplete disassembly-assembly with small easily-lost parts, a three-part bag-screw-screwing ramrod, NOT "folding" to the end lurid "sliding (only up to its usual length on a standard AK-74, no more, but what about decades" complaining "about his supposedly" short butt "for tall shooters, did they" lengthen "?!) USM for "cutting off twos" with the preserved low rate of auto-fire, because even novice shooters from the AK were easily trained to "once or twice" shoot with "twos", or take the same supposedly "suspended" barrel, whose "suspended" a priori was canceled by a rigid lateral gas outlet , and which would not have been broken by an ordinary one-piece ramrod under the barrel, but whatever you take .... complete disregard of the original foundations of the AK design, which just determined its outstanding reliability in battle and oursoldier's sincere commitment!) "in order to understand the harmful far-fetchedness of such a" modernization "and the decline of" embedded "in this engineering thought, not to mention the complete disregard of military operating experience and cardinally changed concepts of building such systems at the present time ...
    And this (conceptually outdated in its "architecture" !!!) dubious "miracle" on the KK "was designed and tested (" mastering "the state military budget)" for almost 10 years, and now they are "happily making happy" Russian soldiers ?! request
    With all this obvious deb ..., "sawing-AKmodernizatsionny", I am glad only that millions of good old Soviet AKM and AK-74 are stored in the warehouses of GRAU, which in the "hard times", I believe and know (as "old a soldier who does not know the words of love " winked ), they won't let us down!
    IMHO, I do not impose!
    1. volodimer
      volodimer April 5 2021 17: 23
      0
      The question is how to the shooter. In all the articles about the AK and its modernizations (for example, Israeli ones), there was an emphasis on such a moment: the separation-removal of sights from each other. This, as it were, allows you to increase the firing range. Ideal: the front sight is as far ahead as possible, and the rear sight is at the end of the receiver cover. The photo does not even seem to be an AK-12, the receiver cover is from the classics. I could be wrong. But the gas outlet and, accordingly, the front sight can be moved forward. And the collimator can also be moved back. After all, this increases the length of the aiming line and, accordingly, the range of aimed fire. I may be wrong, but it was these improvements that were announced in the press when this AK was promoted to the market.
      And, of course, there is a secure attachment of the receiver cover, which should allow placing Picatinny rails on it. And, accordingly, to mount different devices there, without using the side "dovetail".
      1. beeper
        beeper April 5 2021 21: 54
        +1
        hi In short, as an interested person, Vladimir.
        For military weapons, from mechanical sights, only an open one is suitable, such as on the Soviet AK!
        It does not block the shooter's field of view and in battle is easily cleared by hand from adhering dirt.
        Any diopter sights have their own specific advantages, but also practical vulnerabilities, and at the same time close the view, therefore they are more suitable for sporting weapons than for combat ones.
        I do not consider it correct to use diopters on military weapons in our natural conditions.

        Never fired with a collimator, but this sighting device does not depend in any way on the "length of the sighting line" of the weapon.

        All working hinges, including those on weapons, have gaps - "backlash", which only increases during operation - even novice designers know this!
        Therefore, the sights, fixed "tightly" on the Picatinny rail (I consider them only hooked dirt collectors, which are in vain everywhere molded on ordinary assault rifles for infantry) of the AK-12 hinged receiver cover will inevitably "play" relative to the axis of the barrel bore, with all the ensuing errors ! request

        For example, a "shuttle" in the hinge of a folding and dubious stiffness of a sliding butt, its suboptimal angle of inclination relative to the axis of the barrel ("ensuring straight alignment of the barrel and butt" is another harmful "fashion trend" that requires its own creative rethinking) also has a very strong effect on accuracy shooting, because
        the barrel shoots, but the stock hits!

        In general, looking at any creation of human hands, one can say a lot about its creator (including the quality of design thinking).
        Looking at this tyap-lyapski "improved AK-74M" -AK-12 and its "jambs", I see absolutely NOT loving the Russian soldier, civilian and military bureaucrats, both under-thinking and under-working "theoreticians" designers, and unscrupulous production workers, "Commission" of indifferent ignoramuses, uncritically accepted and fully paid (from the treasury, at the expense of Russian taxpayers !!!) this "long-playing hack", and who know very well that they will not have to fight with this "miracle" in their hands! request
        IMHO, only my personal opinion and I do not impose this view on anyone!

        The only thing that reassures me is the multimillion-dollar warehouse stocks of the Soviet Kalashnikovs - only them, and also the Soviet PC and Makarov, I really trust! yes
    2. ROSS_51
      ROSS_51 April 5 2021 23: 26
      -1
      Quote: pishchak

      I consider "AK-12" a complete profanation of ideas and concepts that were originally incorporated into the "family" of AK-47-AK-74 assault rifles by their creators-designers MT Kalashnikov and his comrades!

      Why are you so worried? They will leave the AK-74 to conscripts and other infantry. AK-12 will go to special units, but there are usually no conscripts there. And they know how to service weapons, and to handle weapons too. All your claims could also be applied to the changes in the transition from AK-47 to AK-74 .. And the bullet is small, and the butt is foldable, flimsy .. Here is a wooden oar, yes! You won't lose, you won't break. And most importantly, the ramrod is thick!
      Excuse me, I'm exaggerating, but how long can our guys run with a paddle? I must admit, the classic AK-74 has already outlived its usefulness, well, they could not give birth to the same ingenious weapon, but why not make it more ergonomic, more convenient? To lighten the butt, not to put the collimator on the picatinny, to make the AK-74 better? Everyone was taught to cut off, only this is at the shooting range ..
      1. beeper
        beeper April 6 2021 00: 22
        +1
        hi The butt on the AKS-74 (unlike the AKMS) did not seem flimsy to me! smile
        Only now it was taking shape in the "wrong direction" - by no means "according to the mind"!
        A one-piece ramrod is always at hand, a strong spring that will not break along a fragile thread (not to mention the elementary and easy loss of the components of the ramrod, and the entire "pen case", during everyday use, as well as the fact that in wartime on worn-out equipment, worn-out tools, low-skilled personnel, it will be problematic to make it so that it screwed up as it should and at the same time was straight - this the designers should have taken into account, if "commercial plans" about additional sale of the army, "at military prices" "increased consumables" ?!).
        I don’t mind, ROSS_51, if the KK could do their own assault rifle better than the AK-74, otherwise the "improved remake" would have turned out "as always" ?! request
        Both conscripts and contract soldiers are equally dear to me!
        And those, and those "sip dashing" from the unfinished "miracle" even in peacetime, and even in a combat situation, and even more so, do not go to the grandmother!
        A real modern combat-ready machine gun for the Russian army, alas, has not yet been created! "AK-12" is an unsuccessful "ersatz".

        By the way, he never called his machine gun (neither AKM, nor, later, AKS-74) "paddle" and did not hear anything like that, disdainful of his weapons, from any of our Soviet commanders and colleagues!

        All of the above is just my subjective IMHO, I do not pretend to be the "ultimate truth"!
        Peace and Goodness to all!
        1. ROSS_51
          ROSS_51 April 6 2021 09: 48
          0
          Quote: pishchak

          Both conscripts and contract soldiers are equally dear to me!
          And those, and those "sip dashing" from the unfinished "miracle" even in peacetime, and even in a combat situation, and even more so, do not go to the grandmother!
          A real modern combat-ready machine gun for the Russian army, alas, has not yet been created! "AK-12" is an unsuccessful "ersatz".

          By the way, he never called his machine gun (neither AKM, nor, later, AKS-74) "paddle" and did not hear anything like that, disdainful of his weapons, from any of our Soviet commanders and colleagues!

          AKM was called a paddle in the Airborne Forces, because try to run around with this .. The pencil case, the ramrod are all the little things .. for a calm environment, it will calmly decompose and clean .. And in combat conditions, they cleaned the shutter from carbon deposits with a bayonet, scraped the bolt carrier, collected and again into battle. And this reliability is preserved in the AK-12.
          And maybe it's not worth the AK to conceptually change something - they made it easier, increased the accuracy of the battle, made it possible to tune for their tasks - what else do you need?

          Look how 3 guys are scoffing at the AK-12 - my AKS-74 in the service would be better off not behaving.
    3. -Dmitry-
      -Dmitry- April 6 2021 08: 27
      0
      In my youth, among other things, our Soviet weapons, I had a chance to shoot a lot from 7.62mm AKM and 5.45mm AKS-74, and operate them in the field.


      As I understand it, you have no experience in operating and using the AK-12.
  • Old26
    Old26 April 5 2021 16: 13
    +6
    Quote: LiSiCyn
    Maybe BB ...?

    No, this is the GRU Special Forces regiment

    Quote: LiSiCyn
    Of the options for 247 Guards Air Force "Cossack", Stavropol. And 30th detachment SpetsNaz of the Interior Ministry "Svyatogor", Stavropol.

    The first is the regiment of the 7th airborne assault (mountain) division, the second is the Ministry of Internal Affairs. The base of this regiment is exactly in the middle between the paratroopers and "Svyatogor" laughing

    Quote: Doliva63
    Something I did not find among the intelligence units of any special forces regiment (well, except for the 45th Airborne Regiment). Maybe a typo.

    No, not a typo. There is such a regiment in Stavropol. Fill in the search engine "Southern Military District" and in the section "Reconnaissance formations and military units" get the following list

    • 10th separate order of Zhukov special purpose brigade (n. Molkino, Goryachy Klyuch, Krasnodar Territory)
    • 22nd separate guards brigade of special purpose (settlement Stepnoy, Rostov region)
    • 346th separate special purpose brigade (Prokhladny, Kabardino-Balkar Republic)
    • 25th separate special-purpose regiment (Stavropol)
    • 154th separate radio engineering brigade of special purpose (Izobilny, Stavropol Territory)
    • 74th separate radio engineering regiment of special purpose (Vladikavkaz)

    Here is the 25th regiment and there is the same special forces regiment
  • Old26
    Old26 April 5 2021 17: 37
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    Quote: Doliva63
    247 GvDShP is disbanded, isn't it?

    Yes sir. Rechecked.
    Quote: Doliva63
    on the regiment it does not pull.

    Maybe deployed to the regiment? what
    I did not find other options for Stavropol.

    Why did you suddenly get the idea that one of the regiments of the 7th Airborne Assault Division was disbanded? On the contrary, the division will include another regiment, which was previously the 56th brigade.
  • Old26
    Old26 April 5 2021 18: 23
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    At the same address where my school was, now the headquarters of the 49th Army, and in the same place - I do not remember the number of the unit .. a spetsnaz regiment, specialization - mining .. an acquaintance serves there .. so everything is correct ...

    05525. Based in the barracks of the 2nd and 3rd faculties of your former school
  • Old26
    Old26 April 5 2021 18: 32
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    Quote: Doliva63
    Thanks. Found. Lagged behind life, apparently, completely. A regiment (!) Of special reconnaissance (!) To guard the Olympics - so complete nonsense. It would be interesting to see the regiment staff, how it correlates with the OBRSPN staff.

    He served as a guard during the Sochi Olympics. But it was not created for this. After all, there were anti-aircraft missile systems, too, for the protection of the Olympics. But this is not considered nonsense. And the states - I think this information is classified.
  • phakic
    phakic April 7 2021 13: 27
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    My deepest sympathy for the soldiers of this regiment ...