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"Wargames" - children's toys for adult men

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The statement that all adult men are just grown boys confirms the popularity of certain entertainments that have migrated straight from childhood. Airsoft, computer and military-themed board games are a prerogative for the 25+ age group. However, besides the entertainment side, these hobbies have another side, in my opinion, and which makes them so attractive to men.


I will describe who and why is fond of a variety of games such as wargames.

Most likely, I will not be mistaken if I say that everyone reading this article had toy soldiers in childhood. And how exciting it was to arrange them, playing this or that situation in the "war". But for some, a similar hobby continued into adulthood.

We are talking about the so-called "wargames" - a variety of board games that represent the very "war" from childhood, only in an adult way. And the soldiers are more detailed with a claim to realism. And a variety for every taste: especially historical, fantasy and science fiction (even a mixture of genres, eras and worlds is present). And weapons that shoot and have different performance characteristics. And the rules, the study of which takes more than one hour, otherwise the game becomes meaningless, and victory is unattainable. And, unfortunately, the financial component of such hobbies. Everything is grown-up, although games.

I will not analyze the features of certain games, the quality of the figures, the rules and game mechanics. I will express my opinion about the players themselves.

At competitions or simple comradely "nicks" in wargames, adult uncles with beards, gray hair and inquiring eyes dominate. Many people label them as "geeks" or "nerds". But this is often not the case. Most of them hold managerial positions in enterprises and structures, engineering and technical workers and specialists in their field.

What makes such serious people engage in seemingly frivolous entertainment?

The answer is not easy. And it requires a revision of the very concept of "wargame" as a game.

The point is that all its advantages for adults are disadvantages for the seemingly target audience - children and adolescents. To put it simply, the "entry threshold" weeds out almost everyone, except for adults who are accustomed to planning and have management experience.

It is in such games that you can realize your potential and practice in performing complex tasks that require remarkable intelligence. Try to remember the features of all your (and others') units, apply these features or prevent the enemy from implementing them, develop tactics suitable for a specific situation, find a way to stop the negative consequences of certain events - this is the key to victory.

Sound familiar?

Solving complex tasks at the enterprise / office / military unit.

And everywhere there will be those who keep it all in their heads: they give decisions quickly and correctly. As well as those that every minute climb into the rules (guidelines) or for advice from a colleague. In my opinion, the connection is direct.

And what is where the players in wargames are transferring - experience and decisions from life to game or vice versa - not everyone will answer.

A simple example.

The Döming cycle (plan-do-control-improve) helps in all life situations. Only a few are guided by it after training in management. And some find that their reception also has a name.

All this applies to wargames as well. Without the ability to manage, you can play, but you will start winning regularly only by applying all your knowledge and skills.

Therefore, I urge you not to be shy and find on the Internet the place of the nearest club (and there are many of them) if you are drawn to something like that. And challenge your capabilities.

And all outsiders should not be skeptical of wargame lovers.
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  1. Eldorado
    Eldorado April 7 2021 18: 07
    +6
    Could tell in more detail about such an interesting hobby! negative
    1. Vend
      Vend April 8 2021 10: 35
      +1
      Wargame develops strategic and logical thinking like chess, but with a more interesting process. + you need to paint miniatures, you want the armies to be beautiful, so you have to learn to work with paints. Dads with such enthusiasm are very interesting to children.
      1. Foul skeptic
        Foul skeptic April 8 2021 10: 52
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        Wargame develops strategic and logical thinking like chess, but with a more interesting process.

        Oh-oh-oh-oh ... this is just because chess is not so popular now, and therefore the overwhelming majority knows only about classical chess, although there are dozens of varieties. I am currently playing a game in which Tamerlane's chess, Marseilles chess, blindfold chess and battle chess are combined.
        1. Vend
          Vend April 9 2021 13: 11
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          Quote: A vile skeptic
          Wargame develops strategic and logical thinking like chess, but with a more interesting process.

          Oh-oh-oh-oh ... this is just because chess is not so popular now, and therefore the overwhelming majority knows only about classical chess, although there are dozens of varieties. I am currently playing a game in which Tamerlane's chess, Marseilles chess, blindfold chess and battle chess are combined.

          It's still chess, with the same set of pieces. Wargame gives more variety and a wider field of activity close to a military battle. It's not about popularity, but about the process.
          1. Foul skeptic
            Foul skeptic April 9 2021 17: 06
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            Just do not distinguish between chess and wargame, it hurts the eye. Chess is a wargame. ))
            It's still chess, with the same set of pieces.

            And for the depth of strategic content, the diversity of figures is not a determining factor. In Go, there is only one, in classical chess - 6, and the complexity of the game tree in Go is much higher - only the final positions can be 10 ^ 171, against 10 ^ 46 of all positions in chess.
            Wargame gives more variety and a wider field of activity close to a military battle. It's not about popularity, but about the process

            So popularity is due to the process, and not the ability to develop strategic thinking. Because chess, xiangqi, go, and shoga do better than that.
            And the popularity of the Advanced squad leader or wargames from Gary Grisby much closer to the military battle, for some reason, is much lower than the same series of Warhammer games. Pure marketing question, not gameplay.
            Well, I will not insist on my opinion.
            1. Vend
              Vend April 9 2021 18: 05
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              Quote: A vile skeptic

              So popularity is due to the process, and not the ability to develop strategic thinking. Because chess, xiangqi, go, and shoga do better than that.
              And the popularity of the Advanced squad leader or wargames from Gary Grisby much closer to the military battle, for some reason, is much lower than the same series of Warhammer games. Pure marketing question, not gameplay.
              Well, I will not insist on my opinion.

              If chess could do it better, it would still be popular, it's not about marketing, it's about the process.
              1. Foul skeptic
                Foul skeptic April 12 2021 10: 53
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                If chess did better at this, it would still be popular.

                Let me tell you a secret - they are still popular. When I was writing
                it's just because chess is now not this way are popular, and therefore the overwhelming majority knows only about classical chess

                "Not so popular now", it means not like it used to be compared to myself, not at all. Therefore, they are not as popular as they were earlier in the 20th century, when they were just booming, but at the same time they are more popular than card table wargames. You in any smallest town will 100% find yourself a partner for playing chess, which cannot be said about some Dust 1947 and others like her.
                PS In the overwhelming majority of popular tabletop mass card wargames, the success of an action depends on the roll of dice and a set of pieces, and the last, on your wallet. Therefore, in my opinion, it is somewhat hasty to regard such games as competitors to "chess and Co." in terms of the development of strategic thinking. In terms of fintiflyushki and tinsel, no doubt, they are ahead of the rest.
                1. Vend
                  Vend April 12 2021 12: 04
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                  I would love to continue communicating with you, but I received such a letter from the administrator "Anatoly, I greet you!
                  I don’t know who is looking at this old uninteresting topic about soldiers. Because I don't give you any cons. And they appear. "So we have to close the question.
                  1. Foul skeptic
                    Foul skeptic April 12 2021 12: 08
                    -1
                    So I sent you this letter, not the admin)))
                    Just so as not to think that I put a "minus" to your previous message.
                    1. Vend
                      Vend April 12 2021 15: 53
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                      laughing laughing And I thought that the admins were stopping me from talking again laughing laughing Then it’s another matter. The cons don't bother me. We are not rude to each other, we do not call names. each has its own point of view. Finding a chess partner in any city is no longer so easy. If in my childhood, chess was in 99 percent of homes, but now, alas, this is no longer the case. I did not consider card wargame, I mean with miniatures. The cube is important only in the Saga, this is the key argument there. In others, this is one of the components, and many functions there depend on the dice, but the wrong strategy will not be saved by successful dice rolls. Correct selection of military units, folds of terrain and much more. This is strategy. Add more color to the models, it adds artistic skills. And on the shelf, the figures look more interesting than chess in a box.
                      1. Foul skeptic
                        Foul skeptic April 12 2021 17: 54
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                        I did not consider card wargame, I mean with miniatures.

                        In my messages, I meant them, among other things, I just did not specifically dwell on clarifications. Why only in the Saga? In fairly simple options (like Summer 41 or Poltava), the issue is solved with a dice, mainly with a hit and damage. But the more serious the game and the more complex the rules, the more the dice are used - dice solve the issue of panic, the nature of critical damage, etc. The game is becoming more and more dependent on chance. On the one hand, this is more interesting, since life itself is a series of accidents)) But at the same time, the game does not have that feeling of a pure, unclouded strategy that is in chess and chess-like games.
                        but the wrong strategy will not be saved by successful dice rolls

                        I invent GURPS modules for my grandchildren and take them with them. Unpretentious so far, of course, due to age. In general, the topic of board games for me has been going on since the 90s, there were such cases of luck that they became anecdotes in our company (which, by the way, was originally formed on the basis of chess varieties back in the 70s).
                        Add more color to the models, it adds artistic skills. And on the shelf, the figures look more interesting than chess in a box.

                        It would be foolish to argue with that, that's the way it is. But again, this is the reason why now the child will be more interested in the choice of collectible games than chess, and not the answer to which games have a deeper strategic component. In fact, conditionally 99% of such games have a fairly primitive set of actions. It is conditionally wider than in classical chess (and we remember that chess does not end with this type of chess), but in these games the positional component is poorer; in the descendant of chaturanga, the control of the board is achieved more variably. Roughly speaking, collectibles are still a tactic rather than a strategy. It is difficult, of course, to talk abstractly, without reference to a specific situation, comparing two specific games. But, again, from experience, good chess players (rating in the 1700-1900 region) easily become good players in tabletop wargames, but I don't know the opposite examples, despite my attempts. By the way, AI is also easier to cope with board games than with games from the Inteliad list. This is a scientific fact.
                        Finding a chess partner in any city is no longer so easy. If in my childhood, chess was in 99 percent of homes, but now, alas, this is no longer the case.

                        Thank God this is not the case yet. This is about the first sentence of the quote)) Why is it in your city that there is not at least one person who knows how to play chess? I agree with the second sentence. But I also wrote that the boom of the 20th century in chess has already been experienced. Plus, the pathological craving of young people for mobile devices. I have several sets of chess at home, ranging from magnetic road chess to custom-made wooden carved ones (since I play not only classical chess, I had to order different boards and sets of figures). But the grandchildren come and play with me through the application on the tablet. Being with me in the same room. It's more interesting for them. They also argue that I am backward and do not understand the advantages of the application - you can save the games you have not finished and then continue at a convenient time. That's that. Progress)) True, they are surprised when I arrange the figures from memory on a wooden board and they coincide with what they have saved in the application.
                        And collectibles also monetize, if you want to win in tournaments, pay to collect a normal army. Because you will not pay, your opponent will pay. And so at least parity is possible.
                      2. Vend
                        Vend April 13 2021 10: 19
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                        I don't have a wide coverage of wargames like you do. For the first time I hear about Summer 41 or Poltava. I rely mainly on popular, advertised lilac wargames.) In which you really need to think strategically. Entering the element of randomness is also quite interesting. I agree with you, life is full of accidents. Chess develops logical and mathematical thinking. “On the third move, it turned out that the grandmaster was playing eighteen Spanish games. In the other twelve, Black used the outdated, but rather faithful, Philidor Defense. The fact is that the great schemer has played chess for the second time in his life. " Ilf and Petrov "12 chairs". Somehow I was not interested in wargamers who of them played or plays chess. In chess, the pieces move according to the prescribed, the knight is "beech G" and at least you crack it differently, it will not go. But in wargames there is no such thing. This gives a more varied gameplay experience. Again, modeling situations, and so on. It's good that your grandchildren play chess, my children did not go further than checkers, but they don’t play wargame either))) Well, I didn’t say that there’s not a single person who plays chess, but to find you will have to work hard. It used to be on the bench either in checkers or in dominoes)) Yes, the wargame is heavily monetized, it will not be easy for a child to play them, it rests on the parent's wallet. I saw different chess, with traditional figures and with figures in the form of real warriors, you can even collect chess))
                      3. Foul skeptic
                        Foul skeptic April 13 2021 12: 15
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                        In chess, the pieces move according to the prescribed, the knight is "beech G" and at least you crack it differently, it will not go.

                        This is a big plus when it comes to the development of the thought process))
                        The more freedom the rules provide, the less it is necessary to puzzle over how to create a winning situation on the field. And vice versa. Therefore, the more you are limited by the rules, the more actively you have to use gray matter. It's just that in different games, these restrictions are of a different nature. There are also collectible wargames.
                        Moreover, if we turn to mathematics, namely topological combinatorics, which, among other things, deals with the compilation of so-called "decision trees", it turns out that limiting the possibilities does not mean necessarily reducing the options for the development of events. In Chinese chess, in comparison with traditional chess, a river has been added, dividing the playing field equally, through which an elephant and a palace cannot pass, from which a general and an adviser (king and queen) cannot go. That is, the freedom of movement is more limited, and in the game tree there are 10 ^ 150 branches, compared to 10 ^ 46 in chess)).
      2. yehat2
        yehat2 April 13 2021 13: 35
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        apparently, you are poorly versed in chess. Everything you need is there
        just to play chess interestingly, you need qualifications and a lot of time to learn.
        And people are lazy and they replace a variety of options with a variety of entourage, in fact, imitating "intellectuality"
        And a busy person to memorize numerous features is still a hemorrhoid.
        Therefore, simplified games like world conflict or chess are popular.
        And last but not least, chess is not popular only where schools graduate degenerate teenagers. For example, in Harlem. There is no time for chess.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 April 7 2021 18: 14
    +8



    The elder got hooked on this business
    1. Darkesstcat
      Darkesstcat April 8 2021 08: 24
      +2
      Tau Empire?))) good
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 April 8 2021 08: 27
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        Quote: Darkesstcat
        Tau Empire?))) good


        Like. I am rather weak in this matter. We have just started to master the CODE. Let's try to fight with the whole family on the weekend. So sometimes we use "Arkham Horror".
        1. Darkesstcat
          Darkesstcat April 8 2021 08: 30
          +1
          And how do you mine, a flea market or buy new ones?
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 April 8 2021 08: 31
            +2
            The eldest son got carried away with this. Buys new ones. Friends paint.
            1. Darkesstcat
              Darkesstcat April 8 2021 08: 33
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              Good plan, sorry prices have skyrocketed lately.
              1. sergo1914
                sergo1914 April 8 2021 08: 59
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                Quote: Darkesstcat
                Good plan, sorry prices have skyrocketed lately.


                Earns. Can afford it.
                1. Darkesstcat
                  Darkesstcat April 8 2021 09: 42
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                  Earns it well. But when you have a box of infantry of 10 models for 3000 russia, it will give only 150 points for the format of 2000 points. This is somehow not very good.)
  • WHAT IS
    WHAT IS April 7 2021 18: 34
    +14
    Most likely, I will not be mistaken if I say that everyone reading this article had toy soldiers in childhood.

    You can't go wrong!
    And how exciting it was to arrange them, playing this or that situation in the "war".

    Alliances were made, wars were declared to enemies, everything was serious. Somehow, together with a neighbor, three boys from another quarter declared war: we won a glorious victory in the garden, which I still remember - despite the obvious numerical superiority of the adversaries in manpower and equipment - lured after a short fierce battle (in which they lost almost half of their army) by a false retreat, the main forces of the enemy on a bridge made of bricks, which they blew up together with the enemies with a camouflaged fishing line, it was necessary to see the faces of the losers, they already anticipated the imminent defeat of the fleeing enemy, and here you are! It was a glorious battle!
  • Ela myaushkina
    Ela myaushkina April 7 2021 19: 57
    +8
    I strongly disagree that games are divided by gender, i.e. for boys and girls, depending on the meaning, essence, content, theme. This is nonsense based on stereotypes and prejudices, and conservative and traditional upbringing. Since childhood, since the beginning of the 90s, I have been living with computers and have been fond of various games, I am fond of to this day. And what can we say about wargames and games in this genre, too. I played everything. The last game in this spirit is Steel Division 2, as a development and improvement of all previous wargames. The strategy genre, RTS / RTT and so on, everything related to strategy games and their subgenres, is one of my favorite areas of games.

    So, not only men, but also women can play such strategies and wargames. The main thing is that there would be interest and strategic thinking, without clichés, stereotypes and prejudices.

    Interest in something has no gender or gender influence. And more from the environment and education in the spirit - what you sow, so you reap. Therefore, it is foolish to think that girls cannot be interested in what boys are interested in, and boys cannot be interested in what girls are interested in. It has nothing to do with gender and gender.

    Therefore, you never need to listen to anyone and act, live with an eye on someone and something, be interested in what you like and what attracts, and do what you like and what attracts.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha April 7 2021 20: 43
      +7
      it's hard to disagree. Especially considering that computer games are criticized by people who watch TV)
      1. Darkesstcat
        Darkesstcat April 8 2021 08: 25
        +1
        The TV has moved to the internet.
    2. Glory1974
      Glory1974 April 8 2021 10: 09
      +1
      I strongly disagree that games are divided by gender, i.e. for boys and girls, depending on the meaning, essence, content, theme. This is nonsense based on stereotypes and prejudices, and conservative and traditional upbringing.

      This is how they think in Europe now. The next stage, when the child chooses himself, is he generally a girl or a boy.
      I disagree with this approach. The girl must play with dolls, swaddle them, feed them, dress them. The boy must play cars, toy soldiers, learns to be strong and courageous.
      If a boy suddenly started playing with dolls, decided to become a mother, and began to try to breastfeed the dolls, this is an alarming sign that something is going wrong.
      But when the children have grown up, the external genitals correspond to the inner worldview, let the girl try herself in shooting games, this will not knock her out of the way.
      You can call it stupidity, prejudice, and conservative parenting. And I call this a centuries-old upbringing that allows an ethnic group to survive and reproduce. But what the alternative view will lead to, we will only be able to see in the future, although in principle it is possible to find something similar in history.
      1. Ela myaushkina
        Ela myaushkina April 8 2021 17: 12
        +2
        No one owes anything, just like no one owes anything. A boy should be interested in and do what interests him and what attracts him, like a girl. And not from under the stick of upbringing, what they are hammered into and what they are forced to do, because it cannot and should not be otherwise. This is coercion and deprivation of a person's freedom of choice and the right to be himself and have his own real interests and hobbies, worldview, and not instilled by someone else from the outside. Even if it's parents and society.

        Playing with dolls doesn't mean being a mom. Dolls are psychology and sociology, environment, collective, society. And it's not just that women are better and more versed in all these issues.

        The fact that has been tested by centuries and antiquity does not mean that it is relevant and workable today. There are no immutable things and universal formulas that work forever. Everything must develop, improve, change, evolve. And survival and reproduction, this is a completely different conversation, not related to the topic and everything written above.
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 April 9 2021 09: 41
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          No one owes anything, just like no one owes anything.

          Everyone only remembers their rights, but no one even stutters about their responsibilities. And no one canceled the duties. From this moment, misunderstanding begins.
          Down with tyranny, let's get democracy! Give me my rights! Where are my responsibilities? And if you have rights, there are responsibilities.
          The fact that has been tested by centuries and antiquity does not mean that it is relevant and workable today.

          exactly what has been tested by time shows its qualities. Without considering time, you can make assumptions about what will happen in the future.
          And survival and reproduction, this is a completely different conversation, not related to the topic and everything written above.

          Survival and reproduction is the foundation of life on Earth. Everything that happens is either directly or indirectly related to this. It is naive to believe that the upbringing of the younger generation will not affect their life in the future.
  • Ural resident
    Ural resident April 8 2021 09: 38
    +7
    Eh, and in the 80s, as a child, we made medieval soldiers from plasticine, armor and weapons from tin, fortresses from cans fastened with plasticine. The standard size was negotiated, but soldiers were made in hundreds, and those who died in battle were given to the opponent for storage so that they could not be used in a further war, resources were also important for victory.
  • Jaromir
    Jaromir April 8 2021 14: 54
    +6
    The article is definitely a plus! good But, the Author! A continuation should be written. The topic is very interesting! hi
    As a child, we were in the sandbox, we organized "real battles" good laughing
    Then computer games went on. I'm not very online. Until now, for 20 years now, I like to play Sid Meier's computer Civilization from time to time, or hack to death in Panzer General2, as well as in "Return to Wolfenstein Castle" repeat
    1. Dmt
      April 12 2021 16: 46
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      Quote: Jaromir
      But, the Author! A continuation should be written.

      This is just an opinion on the topic - the continuation is already advertising this or that game.