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Arrests of former admirals of the Republic's Naval Forces began in Turkey

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Arrests of retired Turkish admirals began in Turkey fleet, the main charge being brought forward is an attempt to violate the constitutional order of the country. This is reported by Turkish media.


Reportedly, the Prosecutor General's Office has already issued arrest warrants for 14 retired admirals, 10 of them have already been detained, four more have not yet been found, they are ordered to report to the police themselves. All ex-military men are accused of conspiracy to violate the constitutional order and undermine the security of the state.

The accusation was based on a letter in which former sailors expressed concern about the country's government's plans to withdraw from the Montreux convention on the status of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles, as well as plans to build the Istanbul channel parallel to the Bosphorus. They called for an end to all discussions on this issue and to preserve the current Constitution, which the current Turkish leader Tayyip Recep Erdogan is in favor of changing.

The letter that appeared on Sunday, signed by 103 former Turkish military personnel, was strongly negatively received by the current government, including the president.

It is noted that the Turkish authorities do not officially declare their withdrawal from the Montreux Convention, but from time to time they make it clear that not all provisions of the convention make Ankara happy.
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  1. Woodman
    Woodman April 5 2021 10: 39
    +21
    As reported, the Prosecutor General's Office has already issued arrest warrants for 14 retired admirals, 10 of them have already been detained, four more have not yet been found, they are ordered to report to the police themselves

    The accusation was based on a letter in which former sailors expressed concern about the country's government's plans to withdraw from the Montreux convention on the status of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles, as well as plans to build the Istanbul channel parallel to the Bosphorus. They called for an end to all discussions on this issue and to preserve the current Constitution, which the current Turkish leader Tayyip Recep Erdogan is in favor of changing.

    This is called the cleansing of the opposition. Not what the spears break about. On Sunday they wrote - on Monday already under arrest ...
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 April 5 2021 10: 46
      +33
      Navalny never dreamed of this. laughing
      1. hrych
        hrych April 5 2021 11: 38
        +12
        Quote: Alex777
        Navalny never dreamed of this

        The admirals presented themselves as agents of influence. Erdogan's experience with all kinds of signatories should be adopted. am
        1. Gato
          Gato April 5 2021 11: 58
          +5
          Admirals impersonate themselves as agents of influence

          It has never been a secret. Most of the Turkish admirals studied or trained at Annapolis.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 April 5 2021 22: 24
            0
            Internal affairs of Turkey.
            But then I thought, how many admirals are there in Turkey in general?
            In Russia, for example, forty. In Turkey, hardly less. And there are more retired people.
            So 14 retired is not a lot for political cleansing.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 5 2021 12: 08
        +3
        Quote: Alex777
        Navalny never dreamed of this.

        Yes, with Navalny, it also turned out beautifully, just like V. Vysotsky
        Just arrived - immediately sat down.
        The chips are all in advance.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 April 5 2021 12: 13
          +5
          How many years did Navalny demanded to be treated accordingly? wink
          When he was discharged from the Charite, he was invited to come to Moscow. In an amicable way. And he sculpted a movie for several months in a house with a swimming pool and sauna.
          When he deigned to come, he was already put on the wanted list. And there was no secret in this.
          The very fact that he flew somewhere under a subscription, he got sick there, and then went abroad - this is a miracle of miracles. Nobody can repeat this.
          Along the way, I would have sat in Moscow as it should be and would have been intact, and at large. This is completely different. Not Turkey. hi
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan April 5 2021 11: 50
      +5
      The former military is not opposition to Erdogan, they are simply retired retirees.

      It is simply amazing how the authorities of Erdogan harshly punished those who dared to object to him.

      For us, this fact is very indicative and suggests that the Montreux Convention will cease to operate with the commissioning of a new canal connecting the Black and Mediterranean Seas, and NATO ships will enter the Black Sea in any quantity and at any time.

      We need to prepare for this, because all this leads to the fact that more NATO troops will now be present in the Black Sea and they are aiming at least at Crimea and the creation of a bridgehead for an attack on Russia from the southwest, as part of a global strike plan.

      We need to accelerate the development of new diesel-electric submarines pr.667 "Lada", as well as all the forces and assets that can participate in laying minefields at sea + means of coastal defense.

      It would also be nice for diesel-electric submarines to make a shelter right in the rock in Kryu, similar to what was earlier in Balaklava, so that our submarines in the Black Sea could not be destroyed by a missile strike and they could go out to sea.

      For example, Norway has something similar.

      This is much more effective than trying to cover the base with ships with the help of air defense; during a massive attack, some of the missiles will still hit the targets.
      1. Gato
        Gato April 5 2021 12: 08
        +1
        the Montreux convention will cease to operate with the commissioning of a new canal connecting the Black and Mediterranean Seas and NATO ships will enter the Black Sea in any quantity and at any time

        The convention, on the one hand, regulates the procedure for passage through the Bosporus and Dardanelles, and on the other, it sets limits on the total tonnage of warships of the Black Sea and non-Black Sea states, as well as the duration of the stay in the Black Sea of ​​warships of non-Black Sea states. The presence or absence of an additional waterway does not change the international legal regime established by the convention in relation to the Black Sea.
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan April 5 2021 14: 35
          0
          And what is the point then in this channel for Turkey? Why are they doing it now?

          In my opinion, Turkey will not receive any economic benefit from another passage to the Black Sea from the Mediterranean.
    3. iouris
      iouris April 5 2021 12: 12
      -2
      Quote: Lesovik
      This is called the cleansing of the opposition.

      In principle, this is a pro-Russian opposition, not a pro-American one.
    4. XXXIII
      XXXIII April 5 2021 12: 41
      0
      They will give an explanation and release, and if imprisoned, it will weaken the Turkish Navy. The neighbors only benefit from this. hi
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 5 2021 10: 40
    +8
    Erdogad definitely decided to sit on three chairs, and at the same time eliminate all the unwanted ones!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 5 2021 10: 43
      +15
      Quote: Thrifty
      Erdogad definitely decided to sit on three chairs, and at the same time eliminate all the unwanted ones!

      And most importantly, it works quickly, yesterday a letter - today a prison.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 April 5 2021 10: 48
        +8
        Apparently he is seriously afraid that if he loses power, they will not stand on ceremony with him. Plays ahead of the curve.
        And he undoubtedly has reason to fear. bully
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 April 5 2021 11: 33
          +1
          Quote: Alex777
          And he undoubtedly has reason to fear.

          It is just not clear why there are 14 admirals, and even retired ones. There are as many as 103 signatories. The rest are not dangerous?
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 April 5 2021 12: 08
            +1
            All signers are retired.
            As usual, there are organizers and there are those who have joined them.
            Apparently, the 14 mentioned are the organizers of the letter.
            And the fact that 4 were not found is another confirmation of this.
            It seems that they understood what they were doing and disappeared. hi
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED April 5 2021 12: 11
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And most importantly, it works quickly, yesterday a letter - today a prison.

        in the morning in the newspaper in the evening in the verse
        (C)
      3. XXXIII
        XXXIII April 5 2021 12: 42
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Thrifty
        Erdogad definitely decided to sit on three chairs, and at the same time eliminate all the unwanted ones!

        And most importantly, it works quickly, yesterday a letter - today a prison.


        They work even faster in Belarus. He said he sat down. wassat
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 5 2021 13: 22
          +1
          Quote: XXXIII
          He said he sat down.

          Silence is golden, but the word is silver.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 5 2021 10: 40
    +15
    The Prosecutor General's Office has already issued arrest warrants for 14 retired admirals
    And who said that under Erdogan everything will be legal and constitutional? The admirals tried to express their point of view and give advice to the "leader", but they forgot who they were addressing. Interestingly, the human rights organizations of the EU and the United States will open their mouths about this? I think not, because you can only interfere in the internal affairs of Russia.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 5 2021 11: 05
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The Prosecutor General's Office has already issued arrest warrants for 14 retired admirals
      And who said that under Erdogan everything will be legal and constitutional? The admirals tried to express their point of view and give advice to the "leader", but they forgot who they were addressing. Interestingly, the human rights organizations of the EU and the United States will open their mouths about this? I think no, .

      Turkey back in 2016 "bent" them by concluding a migration agreement with the EU, i.e. having won a diplomatic victory and made the EU dependent on Turkey.
      According to this agreement, Turkey pledged to control the flow of refugees to Europe in exchange for economic support from the EU in the amount of 6 billion euros.
      Greece, which borders Turkey, is unable to contain the flow of Syrian refugees, including many radical Islamists, who literally threaten to "flood" Europe.
  4. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 5 2021 10: 41
    -3
    As I understand it, they have their own 37 years there
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 5 2021 11: 11
      +6
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      As I understand it, they have their own 37 years there

      I realized late about '37, buddy winked ... Have you forgotten how back in 2004 Erdogan carried out a clever political stunt, taking the army under civilian control? This is what allowed him to clear the army of secular commanders, without causing harsh condemnation from the EU and the United States.
  5. Terenin
    Terenin April 5 2021 10: 42
    +9
    Arrests of retired admirals of the Turkish fleet began in Turkey, the main charge being brought forward is an attempt to violate the country's constitutional order.

    If this is so, then Taip "oppresses the cold" striding towards the empire. How else?
    1. Brturin
      Brturin April 5 2021 11: 20
      +3
      Quote: Terenin
      striding towards the empire

      The empire is of course ... admirals write letters ... but here you have to change the heads of the central bank and his deputies over and over again ... when the lira is shaking, inflation ... The amplitude of exchange rate fluctuations led to the outflow of foreign investment from the country. Their share on the Istanbul Stock Exchange fell to 44,23% and reached the lowest level in history. The crisis continues in the tourism sector, which suffered heavy losses last year due to the coronavirus raging around the world. The number of tourists coming to Turkey has decreased by almost 80%. According to the deputy from the Republican People's Party скойetin Osman Budak, “the ministry is hiding the problems, the tourism sector is facing hard times again” ... The economic crisis has hit the automotive industry in Turkey. Companies one after another began to suspend production. After Oyak Renault and Tofaş, Ford Otosan also ceased production. After analyzing the actions of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in recent weeks, The Times suggested that early elections await the country. The newspaper writes that the head of the ruling party is supported by 29% of the population, which is the lowest figure in history.
      https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3233622.html
      The core of the empire is its economy ... Erdogan will be able to defeat this front ... the emperor is the emperor, and here the elections ...
      1. Terenin
        Terenin April 5 2021 11: 27
        +3
        Quote: BrTurin
        The core of the empire is its economy ... Erdogan will be able to defeat this front ... the emperor is the emperor, and here the elections ...

        hi This phrase says something to you winked
        more than 90% of voters voted for the candidate ...
        1. Brturin
          Brturin April 5 2021 11: 47
          +1
          Quote: Terenin
          more than 90% of voters voted for the candidate ...

          it was 99% or maybe 80, the question is if the opposition has a strong leader and who will the state embassy choose ...
          1. Terenin
            Terenin April 5 2021 11: 51
            +4
            Quote: BrTurin
            Quote: Terenin
            more than 90% of voters voted for the candidate ...

            it was 99% or maybe 80, the question is if the opposition has a strong leader and who will the state embassy choose ...

            The US attempted a military coup in Turkey in 2016 failed, but you, about the opposition and the embassy ...
            1. Brturin
              Brturin April 5 2021 12: 56
              +1
              It did not pass, but those who stood behind her retired and "gave up" ... or are waiting for the opportunity to use any mistakes, including on the economic "front" ... and those admirals really did not understand at all what it may turn out for them ... but they wrote and therefore count on someone's support ... "They go crazy one by one. It's just that everyone is sick with the flu."
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 April 7 2021 06: 23
          0
          Since Ataturk, no party in Turkey, even the ruling party, has gained such a percentage. In addition, the opposition in Turkey controls a number of municipalities and regions. The mayor of Istanbul is an oppositionist. Earlier Erdogan himself held this position. By the way, in Turkey, a trick does not work when a mayor or deputy elected from the opposition moves to the ranks of the ruling party or coalition. It is not accepted by them.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin April 7 2021 09: 37
            +5
            Quote: Sergej1972
            By the way, in Turkey, a trick does not work when a mayor or deputy elected from the opposition moves to the ranks of the ruling party or coalition. It is not accepted by them.

            And rightly so.
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED April 5 2021 12: 20
        +2
        The economic crisis has hit Turkey's auto industry. Companies one after another began to suspend production.

        The automotive industry has stopped all over the world. There are no microcircuits. This industry was supplied with a complete set on a leftover basis and without stocks in terms of production capacity. Here the virus and the virus - quarters, quarantines, transport has become. There was a sharp increase in sales of laptops, telephones, TV, etc. Plus the restructuring of factories for a new technical process. Plus a fire in Renaissance (20% of produced microcircuits for the automotive industry). Plus "green cars" are all about electronics ...
        Kryzis, also by itself. As always and all others like it, man-made - planned.
        1. Brturin
          Brturin April 5 2021 13: 29
          0
          So tourism is also ... the question is in a combination of factors ... Turkey has a strong economy, the question is how Erdogan will lead his "ship" into this storm and prevent the accumulation of a critical mass of problems ... the economy is "storming", and then there is and the admirals of instability throw
    2. XXXIII
      XXXIII April 5 2021 12: 52
      0
      Quote: Terenin
      Arrests of retired admirals of the Turkish fleet began in Turkey, the main charge being brought forward is an attempt to violate the country's constitutional order.

      If this is so, then Taip "oppresses the cold" striding towards the empire. How else?


      True, only the beginning is always easy in building an empire, but then it is difficult to resist. Yes, and it is difficult to imagine Turkey as an empire, the most important thing is not there, my own. And the market is not a Chinese miracle.
  6. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 5 2021 10: 43
    -13%
    But Turkey's army is strong, and intelligence is now one of the best in the world, has occupied the Stasi niche
    1. Fungus
      Fungus April 5 2021 11: 05
      +5
      Not very strong. We warned him about the coup. Not intelligence.
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 5 2021 11: 21
        -2
        Well, counterintelligence specializes more in coups ... And the intelligence of the Kurds steals, keeps a stand in Qatar, successes are visible in Libya, it does not screw up in Syria ... Armenians, what was it worth? Celebrated in Russia with portraits of Erdogan
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED April 5 2021 12: 28
          0
          Nothing, nothing ...
          If we grapple with Ukraine, then Turkey will have a kirdyk.
          One has only to start ("He said let's go and waved his hand ..."), and then it will go like clockwork.
          The country is bigger, the country is smaller ... Everything is one.
          Walk, so - walk.
          It's just hard to start.
          It will be even harder to finish.
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 5 2021 12: 31
            -1
            I like the way you think
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 7 2021 06: 28
      0
      The most powerful, competent, qualified generals and officers were removed, many were arrested.
  7. Antidote
    Antidote April 5 2021 10: 49
    +8
    Becoming another dictator
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    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 7 2021 06: 31
      0
      There is no dictatorship there, due to the significant presence of the real opposition in parliament and its control over a significant part of the municipalities and the media. But authoritarian tendencies are present.
  8. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 5 2021 10: 50
    +6
    What about? Modest, democratic and tasteful. laughing Four were ordered to appear on their own. Yeah, wait!
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 April 5 2021 10: 54
    +5
    Arrests of former admirals of the Republic's Naval Forces began in Turkey
    Nothing unusual ... after serious, critical events, this happens in many places!
    1. alexmach
      alexmach April 5 2021 12: 11
      +1
      Nothing unusual ... after serious, critical events, this happens in many places!

      And what serious critical events actually took place in Turkey?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 5 2021 12: 18
        +1
        If we do not know something, it does not mean that nothing is happening there ... there was an attempted coup, this is a fact. The Sultan forgot nothing and did not forgive.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 5 2021 12: 44
          0
          If we don’t know something, it doesn’t mean that nothing is happening there.

          Exactly as it does not mean that it is happening, just because we who do not know something suddenly wanted to.
          ... there was an attempted coup, that's a fact.

          Is this the one that 5 years ago or what? She has already "died down" 10 times.
    2. cniza
      cniza April 5 2021 12: 12
      +3
      There is a real seething cauldron, just against the background of a pandemic they don't talk about it much ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 5 2021 12: 19
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        There is a real seething cauldron, just against the background of a pandemic they don't talk about it much ...

        So the pandemic will not prevent them from settling personal, political and other scores!
        1. cniza
          cniza April 5 2021 12: 34
          +3
          On the contrary, she helps to cook these things without much fuss ...
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 5 2021 11: 10
    +1
    How difficult things are for them there ... All former admirals are now "to the nail" ...
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 5 2021 11: 19
    +1
    We would sit quietly on an admiral’s pension, but if you didn’t want to get into politics, you’ll get it !!! Promptly. Let's look at the howling of the EEC and especially England.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 7 2021 06: 34
      +1
      Probably, after all, the EU?) The EEC has long ceased to exist.
  12. Gato
    Gato April 5 2021 11: 35
    +2
    Colleagues, who knows what Erdogan's plans are to withdraw from the Montreux convention? And what does the Istanbul channel interfere with the admirals? What's the catch?
    1. Andrey Shiryaev
      Andrey Shiryaev April 5 2021 11: 41
      0
      I'm also interested in what the salt is? And just laziness is rummaging around.
      1. Gato
        Gato April 5 2021 11: 51
        +1
        If sclerosis serves me right, then the Montreux Convention secured the transfer of control over the Straits to Turkey. Before 1936, they were ruled by an international commission. The last time the USSR wanted to revise the convention was in 1945 with the aim of obtaining a naval base in the Dardanelles and complete control of the straits. Now Erdogan wants to reconsider - for what purpose?
        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 5 2021 12: 15
          +2
          Well, let's think about what restrictions this convention imposes on Turkey itself - it obliges them to pass ships of third countries through the straits, for example, the Black Sea Fleet. Could Turkey be unhappy with this?
          How will the new kaknal help in this regard - but actually nothing.
          But on the other hand, it is theoretically possible to circumvent another provision of the convention through the new channel - on the limitation of the general tone of the fleet of the non-Black Sea states in the Black Sea. Does Turkey need it? To be honest, I doubt it very much ...
          1. Gato
            Gato April 5 2021 12: 21
            +1
            I strongly doubt

            Similarly.
            through the new channel, it is theoretically possible to bypass another provision of the convention - on the limitation of the general tonnage of the fleet of the non-Black Sea states in the Black Sea

            But this is doubtful. This situation does not matter how the ships of the non-Black Sea states get to the Black Sea - even by air or by rail.
    2. Flooding
      Flooding April 5 2021 12: 13
      0
      "We will build the Istanbul Canal. But some say we will not do this ... But you forgot the case of the Independent tanker (a Romanian tanker that collided with a Greek bulk carrier in the Bosphorus in 1979). "It burned for 7 months, you asked why it happened? Do you not notice how from time to time tankers run into villas on the shores of the Bosphorus? What does Turkey get from the Montreux agreement - what did it gain, what did it lose?" Erdogan said, speaking in Istanbul.

      The broadcast was hosted by the NTV channel (Turkish, of course)
      more details at https://ria.ru/20191223/1562739733.html
  13. APASUS
    APASUS April 5 2021 11: 37
    +3
    So quietly and without an advertising campaign, former dignitaries were detained. I think they will have very decent terms.
    Our opposition must pray for our power
    1. xorek
      xorek April 5 2021 12: 17
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      So quietly and without an advertising campaign, former dignitaries were detained. I think they will have very decent terms.
      Our opposition must pray for our power

      Yes, they just shoot quietly, like the previous ones who tried to displace power and seize .. What's so surprising? Another try .. laughing
      "Our" bulk in general feels like a king in the zone .. He lays all day drinking seagulls and waits for him to be called to the presidency .. laughing Beauty !!!!
  14. tank66
    tank66 April 5 2021 11: 47
    0
    Feeley to the Sultan the screams of used admirals. When it smells of a sickly tanga: a new canal will be dug along the land, designed for relatives laughing
  15. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 5 2021 11: 48
    +1
    Quote: Thrifty
    Erdogad definitely decided to sit on three chairs, and at the same time eliminate all the unwanted ones!

    The traditions of intrigue of the court of the sultans are very rich in various kinds of elimination of objectionable and competitors.
  16. cniza
    cniza April 5 2021 12: 10
    +1
    The accusation was based on a letter in which former sailors expressed concern about the country's government's plans to withdraw from the Montreux convention on the status of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles, as well as plans to build the Istanbul channel parallel to the Bosphorus.


    Sultan stirring up, stirring up ...
  17. xorek
    xorek April 5 2021 12: 13
    +1
    Who interestingly warned Erdogan again with facts and evidence of a military coup? wink hi That's how we live bully
    1. Antagonist
      Antagonist April 5 2021 23: 11
      +4
      Quote: xorek
      Who interestingly warned Erdogan again with facts and evidence of a military coup?

      This time they surrendered themselves. No need to sign letters. And Erdogan must be removed.
  18. Jaromir
    Jaromir April 5 2021 14: 28
    +4
    Arrests of former admirals of the Republic's Naval Forces began in Turkey

    The generals have been forgotten. And the acting, the acting military should be arrested laughing More arrests of Erdogan. Not a bottom for you, not a tire!
    1. Antagonist
      Antagonist April 5 2021 23: 12
      +3
      Quote: Jaromir
      The generals forgot to go through

      There are 103 signatures in the letter. Only 10 were arrested. One of these days, warrants will be issued for the rest bully
      1. Jaromir
        Jaromir April 6 2021 14: 04
        +1
        request We'll see. Now Erdogan is eliminating and purging the armed forces from the opponents of his neo-Ottoman regime. The main thing for us to remember is that Erdogan is not our "friend" and "partner". hi
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 April 7 2021 06: 39
          +2
          For some reason now? He does it for about 15 years. But it is not a fact that he thereby strengthens his army. Its support is gendarmerie and counterintelligence.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 7 2021 06: 38
      +2
      So in recent years, a significant part of the generals have been removed, many have been arrested. Now it was the turn of the admirals.
  19. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 5 2021 15: 43
    +1
    Yeah.
    Perdogasha gets out as best she can.
    The expediency of this channel, as for me, is zero.
    And the comparison with Panama or Suez - so generally designed for downright idiots. laughing
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 5 2021 15: 45
    +1
    The civilization is engaged in it - it builds roads, bridges, digs canals ...
    Fantasies of an undersultan.

    Three wars, a huge trade deficit, dead tourism, problems with the lira. Also the construction of the canal. Although if you give shovels and rations to hungry hotel workers, there is a lot to dig


    It has come to Turkey not to lag behind Nicaragua! laughing
  21. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 5 2021 15: 49
    +4
    Erdogan defeated his air force several years ago. Half of the pilots were fired or imprisoned.
    Now he took up the Navy.
    Both in the Air Force and in the Navy, many senior officers from hereditary military families. And their children are officers too.
    I suspect that they will take revenge on Erdogan very cruelly, "in Turkish".
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 5 2021 16: 55
    0
    Why the hell did Mishustin flop to the Greeks? I myself do not really understand what Mishustin forgot in Greece at the parade. The Greeks are not allies, like the Bulgarians.
  23. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. April 5 2021 18: 21
    +1
    Turkish admirals want like Ukraine with a gas pipe. To sit on the strait, collect money for the passage and pretend to be important persons. Erdogan understands that they can take away this feeder and it is better to make another one and make money on it. I repeat once again Russia needs its own route from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean. Turkey now has no money to build the Istanbul Canal. Instead of a nuclear power plant, you need to dig a canal at your own expense and get it on lease for a hundred years until it pays off.
    It would be nice to lay another road from Russia to Kaliningrad with extraterritoriality, with a railroad and a highway.
  24. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer April 5 2021 18: 51
    0
    Erdik molodchaga, but who needs a retired naphthalene?))) Come on, finish off what is left of the officer corps - first of all, aviation, navy, intelligence)))
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 7 2021 06: 42
      0
      Surely these retired military men and children have officers.
  25. rjpthju
    rjpthju April 6 2021 21: 27
    +1
    In vain did Putin warn Erdogan of the impending coup. We will regret it many times over. Did he think he would become Erdogan's brother? Right now! The admirals at least wanted to dissuade him from building a canal to the detriment of the Montreux convention. Well, Erdogan will send the convention sideways, what are we going to do? Bow to him in the legs and speak with aspiration ..
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer April 7 2021 19: 28
      -1
      Can you imagine how much money is needed, despite the fact that Turkey's economy is now very sad. This channel is another "Panama"))) Erdogan simply "puffs his cheeks" by ranting about the channel))))
      1. rjpthju
        rjpthju April 7 2021 21: 05
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        I agree. It is not in vain that we are building a nuclear power plant in Akkuy for $ 20 billion at the expense of our taxpayers. Only if we will ever get this money back. And then you want to live now. But this is not the first time Erdogan has puffed out his cheeks. And not only cheats, but also acts to the detriment of us. And we are constantly being fooled, accepting his apology and pretending that nothing special has happened. Although "kazus belli" was, at least recently, twice: when the ambassador was killed and when our plane was shot down.
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          TermNachTer April 7 2021 21: 19
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          I think that the NPP is not being built for thanks. And NPP is a tie for many years, fuel rods, repairs, etc. So it's not that simple. I think that the Turks answered both for the ambassador and for the "drying", they just did not voice it so that Erdik would not "lose face", it is now categorically contraindicated for him.
          1. rjpthju
            rjpthju April 7 2021 22: 05
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            All expenses will be paid from the Russian budget, with more than half of them being covered by Turkish contractors. We invest money in a foreign economy. Yes, some of the money will go to Russian workers. But where will they come from for them? Will be taken from other citizens. Depriving them of their jobs, salaries. And when will Russia start to get a plus? We now have unemployment, poverty is breeding. It is necessary to think about Russia, not about Turkey. We have already built these nuclear power plants around the world for $ 100 billion. On credit, or as in Turkey, just like that, for your own money. Ask in the internet about the contract for this station. We invest in someone else's economy, we need to invest in our own.
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            rjpthju April 7 2021 22: 22
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            If it is not difficult, read the opinion of the former Deputy Minister of Atomic Energy of Russia, Doctor of Technical Sciences, Professor, Presidential Candidate of the Academy of Sciences Bulat Nigmatulin. I think it is difficult to suspect him of unprofessionalism. (https://www.seogan.ru/vigodno-li-stroit-aes-akkuyu-v-turcii.html)
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              TermNachTer April 9 2021 19: 08
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              How knowledgeable is the professor of geopolitics? Do you think Putin is a naive fool or a philanthropist?)))