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The sect of Saint Javelin and the prophet Bayraktar must leave

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I like the Ukrainian media. Today there are no funnier publications and more cheerful humorists than those who work there. Moreover, the humor is so subtle that an unprepared man in the street, especially a Ukrainian, crushed by ukropaganda, has the impression that the authors do not write humorous stories, but serious articles and notes on their channels in various social networks.


Once upon a time I was told a very old anecdote about a hunter at a doctor's appointment in a polyclinic:

- Doctor, do you know who I shot on the last hunt?
- Of course I know. He visited me yesterday.

This is how I perceive a lot of what I read instead of classics somewhere in a park or a cafe for fun.

Of course I know. True, no one comes to see me, I'm not a doctor. But the sources of information that can be referred to and which I definitely trust, I really do have.

In short, the Ukrainian journalist Yuriy Butusov and his publication helped me to finish the Sunday evening positively. The article is called "Supplies of military equipment to the Western and Southern military districts of the RF Armed Forces in 2020: disappointing conclusions for" Oplot "and" Crab ".

Russia abandons the strategy of "throwing hats"


After all, we Russians are very cunning and treacherous people. From the point of view of Butusov, of course. We cannot honestly fight the enemy. We don't want to go out, as it used to be in the yard, on fists, one on one. Tanks we invent some new ones, cannons, airplanes, machine guns, etc. With a grenade on the enemy's tank, somehow we don't want to.

Earlier, after the collapse of the USSR, everything was fair. It enters the position of T-72 or T-80 and immediately opposes it with exactly the same enemy tank. Like in tank biathlon. I worked art 122 or 152 millimeters in positions. In response, exactly the same cannons rumble. Fair? Of course it's fair.

And we understood that the Russians would use the ancient Chinese tactics of the times of Mao - we would throw our caps over the enemy! There are still three or four Russians for one Ukrainian. Even though it is still a little not fair, Ukraine understands that the soldiers are not to blame for the fact that Russia is bigger. But imagine, there is a battle between these 72s or 80s. And then the Ukrainian "Oplot" crawls out behind the log ...

In Ukraine, everyone understands that the film "White Tiger" was filmed precisely in order to prepare Russians for the appearance of just such an invincible machine! This very "Tiger" appears (no - "Oplot"), and the infantry has to collect the very hats that the Russians wanted to throw at the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Today, thanks, among other things, to the Ukrainian media, the development of the supertank has been disclosed. We in Russia began to urgently create our own response to Oplot. Just like the answers "Stugna", "Corsair", "Olkha" ... So far, however, it is not clear whether Russia did better or worse. But one thing is clear. Russia was scared to “go out on fists”. The strategy of “throwing our hats” has suffered a complete fiasco. The Ukrainian Armed Forces forced us to modernize the army.

Do you think that what is written above is nonsense?

Alas, this is the kind of information that is pouring into the ears of the Ukrainian people today. Russia sleeps and sees how to invent such weapons that could surpass Ukrainian ones. And, from the point of view of Butusov, we have achieved some success in this matter.

The paradox of the situation is that a fairly large part of Ukrainians continue to live in the early 90s of the last century. Some fantastic belief in their own military industry, in their own design ideas and in their own production capabilities has been preserved in the heads of Ukrainian citizens.

As recently as yesterday I was told about the order of the Ministry of Defense for the new Antonovs. It was felt that the interlocutor was proud of the fact that Ukraine was able to abandon Russian components and try to produce the transporter on its own. And he was not at all outraged by the fact that the "independent" aircraft uses up to 70-odd percent of American and European components.

Russians frightened by Ukraine rearming their army


Don't be surprised that today I have a lot of hunting memories. Spring. Soon, perhaps, the opening of the spring duck hunt. Almost every day you have to shift cartridges, clean your gun, look at packages with shot and gunpowder, etc. Soon again a couple of nights in the field, morning and evening fasting somewhere in the reeds, knee-deep in water. Beauty…

Last year, after the evening dawn, we sat around the fire and listened to one loser who shot a bunch of cartridges and got nothing. “Well, the cartridges are rubbish! Goose, can you imagine, sat down almost on the fly and ... Misfire. "

Everyone smiles knowingly. Well yes. Goose ... You try this goose, when it doesn’t let you get closer than 200 meters.

And then one of ours, a stand shooter, who never takes more than five cartridges for a hunt (he thinks that it would be dishonest for him to hunt unprepared ducks), gives out a phrase that blew up the entire hunting team:

"Be glad it wasn't a bear!"

In about the same way as that "muff", Butusov argues. I cannot vouch for the numbers, these are excerpts from the article. In short, a small quotation book about how the frightened Russian army urgently in Russian, that is, according to the previously announced plan, is rearming itself near the borders of Ukraine.

"one. At least 1 T-8M "Breakthrough" tanks for the tank battalion of the 90st motorized rifle regiment of the 1nd motorized rifle division.
2. The 2nd howitzer division of the 147th self-propelled artillery regiment of the 2nd motorized rifle division in 2021 will be fully equipped up to the regular strength of 18 new self-propelled guns 2С35 "Coalition-SV".
3. The tank battalion of the 27th separate motorized rifle brigade received a batch of 8 new T-90M Proryv tanks.
4. The 27th separate motorized rifle brigade received a batch of 12 BTR-82A armored personnel carriers and 8 mobile maintenance and repair vehicles based on the Ural cross-country vehicle.
5. A batch of 2S19M1 self-propelled guns was delivered to an unknown part. Perhaps the recipient was the 27th brigade. The 2S19M1 and 2S19M2 are a deep modernization of the Msta-S self-propelled guns, equipped with a digital fire control system.
6. The tank battalion of the 423rd motorized rifle regiment of the 4th tank division received about 20 modernized T-80BVM tanks.
7. The 2th artillery brigade received a batch of self-propelled guns 35S236 "Coalition-SV".
8. Ten 2S19M2 Msta-SM installations were delivered to the 856th self-propelled artillery regiment of the 144th motorized rifle division.
9. The tank battalion of the 103rd motorized rifle regiment of the 150th motorized rifle division received a full battalion set of T-72B3M tanks.
10. Three motorized rifle battalions of the 103rd motorized rifle regiment of the 150th motorized rifle division received armored personnel carriers BTR-82A.
11. The artillery division of the 103rd motorized rifle regiment of the 150th motorized rifle division received two batteries of towed guns 2A65 "Msta-B" and a rocket battery of 9K57 "Uragan" vehicles.
12. 18 new 2S19M2 Msta-SM self-propelled artillery howitzers entered service with the first howitzer division of the 381st artillery regiment of the 150th motorized rifle division.
13. The number of armored vehicles on the border with Ukraine will also be increased through reorganization. The 56th airborne assault brigade will be relocated to Feodosia and folded into an airborne assault regiment as part of the 7th airborne assault division, the brigade will be equipped with a battalion of T-73B3 tanks. "

Sorry for the long quote, just thinking about the reaction of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Here you can’t say that “it’s good that it’s not a bear”. You're not kidding. Especially when you consider that, for example, according to the same Butusov, the Russian T-90M Proryv completely nullifies the Ukrainian Oplot. And the new artillery systems actually kill all Ukrainian developments in this area. Even the great Javelin, which the ukropatriots pray for, is already a dubious anti-tank weapon...

NATO, give us something of yours


To be honest, I expected praises about Turkish drones in the article by the editor-in-chief of "Censor". "Bayraktar" is a great weapon of Ukraine or something similar. And did not wait. This is rather strange. That kind of money poured into the purchase. So much effort to create a sect of fans of these UAVs, and all in vain? Or did Butusov read somewhere the enemy media with stories about how these same Bayraktars fell in Syria?

Or maybe, over the course of a few years, Butusov was reformatted into a separatist? He is so blatantly lying to the Ukrainians about the weakness of Ukrainian weapons that a question already arises for the SBU.

APU is the most powerful army in Europe? Or not already?

Then what about this:

“It must be admitted that this tank (I mean the T-90M) has a great advantage over the Ukrainian ones, including the Oplot tank, and nullifies the Oplot production program itself.

“These self-propelled guns (2S35“ Coalition-SV ”) are an attempt to create a new system in 152 mm caliber according to NATO standards, with new weapons, a fire control system and new projectiles. The Russians claim that the "Coalition" can fire at a range of up to 40 km, and with special shells - up to 80 km, while talking about the use of adjustable shells. The coalition has a significant superiority over our artillery systems. "

Sometimes I get the feeling that the Ukrainian media have begun preparations for the end of the “spring exacerbation”. Agree, after reading what the editor-in-chief of a radical Ukrainian patriotic publication writes, thoughts arise that there is no need to attack Russia yet. The answer will be bloody. We urgently need to solicit weapons from the alliance. Anyone! Or collect weapons from NATO components at home.

“Russian military equipment is technologically inferior to NATO counterparts. Ukraine has every opportunity to develop a realistic military doctrine and army modernization program, which will effectively counter the Russian threat with the help of NATO technologies. "

It was not possible to take the Donbass and Russia "for fear".

The Russian bear raised one eyelid, openly moved a small amount of its weapons on its territory. And this caused panic not only in Kiev, but also in Washington, Brussels and other European capitals. Therefore, it is urgently necessary to traditionally “turn zrada into a reward”.

The APU will overcome everyone ... Then ... Soon ...

The APU will certainly defeat the Russian army. Soon ... Especially considering that, according to Butusov, Russian weapons are seriously inferior to Western ones. In almost all components.

But we, the Russians, are again using the "shapkozidatstva" strategy. Only now we are not taking the number of soldiers and officers, but the number of tanks and guns.

We steal ideas from the West and install NATO-like defense systems on our tanks and armored vehicles. We equip our weapons with similar western guidance systems, fire control systems, digital communications ... It is strange that Butusov did not mention the stolen technologies of hypersonic or laser weapons.

Once upon a time, in Soviet childhood, we laughed at the "too smart":

- Tell me, what is the name of the sheep's husband?
- Sheep husband? Sheep, of course.
- You yourself are a ram. The husband of the sheep is called the "ram"! And the ram is the husband of the steering wheel!

So I, after reading the article by the editor-in-chief of a fairly large Ukrainian media outlet, thought about it. Isn't he a husband of the steering wheel? Or maybe he considers the Ukrainians to be these same husbands?

I understand perfectly well that it is difficult for the drugged ukroSMI citizens of the "square" to adequately perceive what their politicians and the military are talking about. But when communicating with Ukrainians (not with the “defenders of Ukraine”, but with ordinary people who have fallen under the pressure of ukropaganda), you realize how many adequate and understanding people still remain there.

You can defeat Russia. Just like the USA, China, India, Brazil and others can be defeated. Only such a victory will destroy not only the vanquished, but also the victors. And none of the mighty of this world will never risk their country for such a victory. Shooting and killing each other is the lot of countries of the second, third and other levels.

Building a new world is really difficult and often painful. As at any construction site, there are injuries during the construction of a new political system in the world. From these injuries, some organs are amputated and thrown away, and some, on the contrary, quickly heal and work again ...

Honestly, I don't want to amputate an organ infected in 2014. I want the wound to heal.

And the sect of admirers of "Saint Javelin and the prophet Bayraktar" will go into oblivion ...
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 10: 06
    +19
    We cannot honestly fight the enemy. We don't want to go out, as it used to be in the yard, on fists, one on one.

    Come on, honestly. Honestly, with the zapadents, this is when we are with our fists and they are on the tank, that's how honest for them!
    1. Installer
      Installer April 7 2021 10: 14
      +22
      In general, all this is sad. Slavs to Slavs. The mattress dream has come true.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 10: 16
        +23
        Quote: Installer
        Slavs to Slavs

        Well, the Slavs, the Poles are also Slavs, but that’s the point.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding April 7 2021 10: 24
          +19
          Quote: Vladimir_2U

          Well, the Slavs, the Poles are also Slavs, but what's the point

          Compared too.
          There is a common history, common roots, common statehood, common victories and common losses, common relatives.
          This cannot be dismissed.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 10: 29
            +8
            Quote: Flood
            There is a common history, common roots, common statehood
            Ukraine as such, yes, but not Banderstadt, but they are in charge now.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding April 7 2021 10: 31
              +3
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Ukraine as such, yes, but not Banderstadt, but they are in charge now.

              it was about the Slavs, not about the Bandera
              and you are one size fits all
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U April 7 2021 10: 33
                +1
                Quote: Flood
                it was about the Slavs, not about the Bandera
                With you, but not with me.
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Honestly at the Westerners
              2. El Chuvachino
                El Chuvachino April 7 2021 17: 33
                +3
                You are talking about statehood, history, etc., then about the Slavs. Decide all the same. Ukrainians, for example, abandoned their history and common roots (they call us Moksha) and statehood and victories too.
          2. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 April 7 2021 11: 12
            +14
            Compared too. We have a common history, common roots, common statehood, and even common victories and losses, not to mention our relatives). And they are our fierce enemies. There is no Slavic brotherhood in principle. It's all like a joke about the fact that love was invented by the Russians so as not to pay.
            So the theory of Pan-Slavism was once invented in Russia in order to bind to itself at least some kind of ties of all these Slavic imperfections. And all they wanted was money and freedom to tear each other's throats. Russia did not want to allow them to do this, so we got enemies around us. Slavyan. And now Ukraine with its Ukrainians is another Slavic enemy, that's all. And just like with the rest, it must be covered with blood, and then indifferently watch them die there. This is the only way to get the "friendship" of all these countries. The Anglo-Saxons have proven it. And if we once again forgive and rush to help, we will simply be hated even more. Normally. "We will go wed ... to your graves." We will not receive any other brotherhood, except this, either from the Poles, or from the Ukrainians, or from anyone. Alas.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding April 7 2021 12: 18
              +8
              Quote: Mikhail3
              now Ukraine with its Ukrainians is another Slavic enemy, that's all

              it is today
              and I'm talking about yesterday and about tomorrow
              about yesterday, when Ukrainians and Russians were brothers in the same family
              and about tomorrow, about what needs to be done so that the brothers find each other again
              definitely do not sharpen knives
              enemies of Russian statehood are peeing with boiling water with delight, reading comments like yours
              do you need to be ready to fight back the enemy? without a doubt!
              is it correct to consider the people of Ukraine lost to Russia and, moreover, hostile to it?
              the answer to this question depends on the goals set
              surround yourself with blood enemies or return the legacy of your ancestors?
              and it just so happened that the first option is quite consistent with the goals of Western partners
              and while you're blowing their tune
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 April 7 2021 13: 15
                +6
                Quote: Flood
                it is today
                and I'm talking about yesterday and about tomorrow

                And we do not live in the Ukrainian land, to our general happiness. We live today. Yesterday we were slaughtered by Bandera, and we forgave them for that. Well, today they cut us joyfully. And tomorrow they will cut even harder! And no other tomorrow will be seen in the waves. So they must be killed. Today. Those who cut, who helped, and especially those who watched. Otherwise they will cut again.
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding April 7 2021 13: 16
                  -4
                  I have nothing to talk about with the provocateur and incitement.
                  1. El Chuvachino
                    El Chuvachino April 7 2021 17: 38
                    +1
                    Well, go and talk to the Ukrainians, invite them, like Leopold the cat, to live in harmony.
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding April 7 2021 18: 13
                      -3
                      Quote: El Chuvachino
                      Well, go and talk to the Ukrainians, invite them, like Leopold the cat, to live in harmony.

                      another who wants to pour blood on the people of Ukraine?
                  2. nemez
                    nemez April 8 2021 16: 09
                    +1
                    But he's right damn it
              2. clerk
                clerk April 7 2021 18: 58
                +1
                ... and I'm talking about yesterday and about tomorrow
                about yesterday, when Ukrainians and Russians were brothers in the same family
                and about tomorrow, about what needs to be done so that the brothers find each other again
                definitely do not sharpen knives
                enemies of Russian statehood are peeing with boiling water with delight, reading comments like yours
                do you need to be ready to fight back the enemy? without a doubt!
                is it correct to consider the people of Ukraine lost to Russia and, moreover, hostile to it?
                So what do you think needs to be done for this? State specific steps. Only not in the style of “stop doing this and that”, but “you need to do this and that”!
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding April 7 2021 19: 30
                  -1
                  Quote: clerk
                  So what do you think needs to be done for this? State specific steps.

                  if you came here to look for excuses for the words of the provocateur, then there is no point in wasting time for me
                  if you are one of those who thinks that
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  now Ukraine with its Ukrainians is another Slavic enemy, that's all. And just like with the rest, it must be covered with blood, and then indifferently watch how they die there.

                  write about it right away instead of starting a meaningless discussion
                  1. clerk
                    clerk April 7 2021 19: 56
                    +3
                    ... So what do you think needs to be done for this? State specific steps.

                    if you came here to look for excuses for the words of the provocateur, then there is no point in wasting time for me
                    if you are one of those who thinks that
                    It doesn't matter which one I am, your opinion is important
                    ... tomorrow, about what needs to be done so that the brothers find each other again
                    Because without concrete measures, all these good wishes are worthless.
                    ... write about it right away instead of starting a meaningless discussion
                    I speak right away
                    So what do you think needs to be done for this? State specific steps. Only not in the style of “stop doing this and that”, but “you need to do this and that”!
                    ... Is there any point in the discussion - it will depend only on your answer - to argue about the expediency and effectiveness of the proposed specific measures or to blabber the topic with ordinary senseless lamentations. The sincerity of your experiences will be immediately clear.
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding April 7 2021 20: 02
                      0
                      Quote: clerk
                      It doesn't matter which one I am, your opinion is important

                      it matters
                      I immediately wrote to the provocateur that I would not get dirty with him
                      so I repeat - it matters
                      I will not communicate with instigators of ethnic hatred, calling for the murder of civilians, under no circumstances
                      these are my enemies
                      my grandfathers fought with such geeks
                      1. clerk
                        clerk April 7 2021 20: 12
                        +2
                        ... It doesn't matter which one I am, your opinion is important

                        it matters
                        I immediately wrote to the provocateur that I would not get dirty with him
                        so I repeat - it matters
                        I will not communicate with instigators of ethnic hatred, calling for the murder of civilians, under no circumstances
                        these are my enemies
                        my grandfathers fought with such geeks
                        ... I understand correctly that you have no suggestions on specific measures that can be taken to achieve
                        so that brothers find each other again
                        ? And all your good wishes on this topic - the essence of cynical and senseless demagoguery?
                      2. Flooding
                        Flooding April 7 2021 20: 19
                        -3
                        Quote: clerk
                        I understand correctly that you have no suggestions on specific measures that can be taken to achieve

                        how can you understand me correctly,
                        if you do not understand the meaning of what is written above?
                        Quote: clerk
                        And all your good wishes on this topic are the essence of cynical and senseless demagoguery.

                        you do not know the meaning of the word "cynicism"
                        it's clear, they came for a chat for their friend the fireman
                      3. clerk
                        clerk April 7 2021 21: 05
                        +4
                        ... I understand correctly that you have no suggestions on concrete measures by which to achieve “so that the brothers find each other again”

                        how can you understand me correctly,
                        if you do not understand the meaning of what is written above?
                        I can easily understand you if you write your proposals on specific measures by which you intend to achieve the stated goal. If for you this is really a desirable goal, and not a cheap bargaining chip in political demagoguery.
                        ... you do not know the meaning of the word "cynicism"
                        it's clear, they came for a chat for their friend the fireman
                        Not just chat, but find out exactly your (!) Point of view in this matter. The position of your opponent is at least clear and understandable (although I could argue about its expediency), but nothing has been heard from you at all. Only idle speculation on the humanistic views of the majority of Russians and out of nostalgia for the friendship of peoples. This is nothing more than a kind of Svidomo provocations. Therefore, try all the same to set out concrete proposals on measures by which you think it is possible to achieve the goal "so that the brothers find each other again." In response, I promise to state my proposals on this issue. And we will discuss the feasibility.
                      4. Flooding
                        Flooding April 7 2021 21: 15
                        -2
                        Quote: clerk
                        I can easily understand you if you write your proposals on specific measures by which you intend to achieve the stated goal. If for you this is really a desirable goal, and not a cheap bargaining chip in political demagoguery.

                        After all, I clearly wrote that I do not conduct dialogues with anonymous defenders of nonhumans who call for the murder of civilians.
                        which of the written you do not understand?
                      5. clerk
                        clerk April 7 2021 21: 19
                        +2
                        ... after all, he clearly wrote that I do not conduct dialogues with anonymous defenders of the murders of civilians.
                        which of the written you do not understand?
                        Can not understand anything. Whom do you mean by defenders of the murder of civilians, and why can't you present your proposals for solving the problem you voiced, “so that the brothers find each other again”?
                      6. Flooding
                        Flooding April 7 2021 21: 34
                        -1
                        Quote: clerk
                        Whom do you mean by defenders of the murder of civilians and why can't you present your proposals on how to solve the problem you voiced "so that the brothers find each other again"?

                        specifically you
                        because if a third person from the two participants in the discussion about the inadmissibility of killing innocent civilians chooses the object of his inquiries to the one who is the opponent of such atrocities, then this says more than enough about this third person.
                        especially when you consider that he did not muster the courage to voice his personal point of view.
                      7. clerk
                        clerk April 7 2021 21: 41
                        +4
                        . specifically you
                        because if a third person from the two participants in the discussion about the inadmissibility of killing innocent civilians chooses the object of his inquiries to the one who is the opponent of such atrocities, then this says more than enough about this third person.
                        especially when you consider that he did not muster the courage to voice his personal point of view.
                        ... I choose as an object for questioning not on the basis of political sympathy and antipathy, but out of interest to see a different point of view on a really complex and controversial issue. From you, so far, only empty talk in the style of "and Baba Yaga is against." If you voice your suggestions on how to resolve the issue “so that the brothers find each other again”, I promise to answer in the same way, and it will be possible to continue a constructive discussion about the expediency and permissibility of certain measures other than “pouring blood”.
                      8. Flooding
                        Flooding April 7 2021 21: 51
                        -4
                        Quote: clerk
                        I choose as an object for questioning not on the basis of political sympathy-antipathy, but out of interest to see a different point of view on a really complex and controversial issue.

                        besides chatting, do you want to demonstrate stupidity as well?
                        study the history of the Great Patriotic War. everything has passed before us.
                        and there are plenty of examples to look up to.
                        there were monsters who were destroying the civilian population.
                        and there was a Soviet soldier who fought with the enemy, not with children.
                      9. clerk
                        clerk April 7 2021 22: 04
                        +4
                        I choose as an object for questioning not on the basis of political sympathy-antipathy, but out of interest to see a different point of view on a really complex and controversial issue.
                        //////
                        besides chatting, do you want to demonstrate stupidity as well?
                        study the history of the Great Patriotic War. everything has passed before us.
                        and there are plenty of examples to look up to.
                        there were monsters who were destroying the civilian population.
                        and there was a Soviet soldier who fought with the enemy, not with children.
                        .
                        I have long understood that you are trying to cover up your Svidomo insides by wrapping yourself in the banner of Soviet humanism, but you are doing badly. If you so stubbornly do not want to voice the measures that, in your opinion, can achieve the goal "so that the brothers find each other again," then this goal is actually hateful to you, and the whole show with humanism is the essence of Svidomo's crappy disguise.
                      10. Flooding
                        Flooding April 8 2021 00: 38
                        -5
                        Quote: clerk
                        I realized a long time ago that you are trying to cover up your Svidomo insides by wrapping yourself in the banner of Soviet humanism, but it turns out badly for you

                        got it out, you cheesy little man
                        went to empty accusations sucked from the nail
                        if you call my rejection of such expressions of your friends as a show with humanism
                        Quote: Mikhail3
                        now Ukraine with its Ukrainians is another Slavic enemy, that's all. And just like with the rest, it must be covered with blood, and then indifferently watch how they die there


                        then I agree, let the ostentatious humanist.

                        But certainly not a cynic, like you, trashy little man, who is covering up someone else's meanness and betrayal.
                        And definitely not a Bandera henchman like you. Because only Banderra's henchmen are interested in deteriorating relations between the peoples of Russia and Ukraine.
                        They desperately need to shed more blood and sow more hatred.
                        And you and your friends are acting in their interests.
                        That's why you squeal about "Svidomo's insides". Because it is known who shouts the loudest "stop the thief".
                      11. clerk
                        clerk April 8 2021 09: 25
                        +2
                        ... I realized a long time ago that you are trying to cover up your Svidomo insides by wrapping yourself in the banner of Soviet humanism, but it turns out badly for you

                        got it out, you cheesy little man
                        went to empty accusations sucked from the nail
                        if you call my rejection of such expressions of your friends as a show with humanism
                        It is necessary to judge not by words, but by deeds. You were asked 8 times to voice the measures by which you think it is possible to achieve the goal “so that the brothers find each other again”, you have not answered ONCE. The reference to the experience of the Soviet soldier is empty demagoguery, because the experience was strong and different. It means that the declared goal of friendship is actually hateful to you, and all the show with humanism is the essence of a trashy Svidomo disguise. Purely Basayev in the maternity hospital of Budenovsk - he also spoke well, but did the opposite. The militants who were driven into a corner also behaved - they nagged about friendship and demanded negotiations. Scum all look the same - they talk about friendship and kill from around the corner.
                      12. Flooding
                        Flooding April 8 2021 09: 57
                        -2
                        I answered you a long time ago
                        Quote: Flood
                        I immediately wrote to the provocateur that I would not get dirty with him
                        so I repeat - it matters
                        I will not communicate with instigators of ethnic hatred, calling for the murder of civilians, under no circumstances

                        Quote: Flood
                        After all, I clearly wrote that I do not conduct dialogues with anonymous defenders of nonhumans who call for the murder of civilians.
                        which of the written you do not understand?
                      13. clerk
                        clerk April 8 2021 12: 31
                        -1
                        [
                        .I answered you a long time ago
                        Quote: Flood
                        I immediately wrote to the provocateur that I would not get dirty with him
                        so I repeat - it matters
                        I will not communicate with instigators of ethnic hatred, calling for the murder of civilians, under no circumstances

                        Quote: Flood
                        After all, I clearly wrote that I do not conduct dialogues with anonymous defenders of nonhumans who call for the murder of civilians.
                        which of the written you do not understand?
                        ]. This is not an answer, this is a lie and slander of a Svidomo bastard who thus does not want to admit that his like-minded people are banal Nazis and criminals whom he wants to excuse from responsibility for the crimes committed by referring to Soviet humanism. He also has the audacity to nod at his grandfather, who mercilessly crushed the same Nazi scum.
                      14. Mikhail3
                        Mikhail3 April 8 2021 12: 52
                        +3
                        Greetings to a clear-minded person!) As soon as I openly and honestly state my position, the insides of my opponent immediately seemed. How guys like these hate honest and straightforward answers! It immediately becomes clear who is worth what.
                        And what's funny? All Banderites have quite enough sins for which they are solely guilty of death, and they know this very well. As for helping a defeated enemy, we have vast experience. There are those who are grateful to us, and those who have betrayed us. Are there any doubts that Ukrainians are among the latter? Hehe ...
                        Yes, not the slightest. Of course, as soon as they snatch in the snout, crying will instantly rise to heaven on the topic "we are for what, we are our own! There are children! We have nothing to do with it!" All to do with it. And the question is not even about punishment. Their punishment is their own vile existence. They were born into the world ...
                        There is simply world experience. We build, heal and help. We are being betrayed for this. And the Anglo-Saxons destroy, and then they look, whether their enemy will get out of defeat, or will die. Not forgetting at the same time to first collect from the vanquished everything that was valuable, down to the crust of bread, and then begin to issue loans at a considerable interest, brutally collecting regular payments. And the countries that have done this are the backbone of the military bloc subordinated to the United States. A completely correct basis.
                        The choice, as usual, is ours ...
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                      17. clerk
                        clerk April 8 2021 20: 58
                        +1
                        ... Greetings to a clear-minded person!) As soon as I openly and honestly state my position, the insides of my opponent immediately seemed. How guys like these hate honest and straightforward answers! It immediately becomes clear who is worth what.
                        Exactly. The moment of truth. It is one thing to rant about friendship and humanism, and quite another to state concrete measures in this direction. Despite the fact that I do not share your point of view that Russia should flood Ukraine with blood. I believe that they should gnaw themselves, and the rest - to hate the concept of the Ukrainian state for many centuries to come. Actually, as it happened in the 17th century and is starting to happen now. And the task of Russia is to give an opportunity to those wishing to get out of this mess, if they wish, together with the territories.
                      18. Mikhail3
                        Mikhail3 April 9 2021 08: 53
                        +1
                        Do you think I like the idea of ​​bathing in blood? Damn, I'm Russian, not a member of the UPA. The problem is that you have to. So Ukraine decided. They want blood, they don't sleep at night, they grit their teeth. And they will rush no matter what we do. Share, as usual, in half. Half of them will betray and throw themselves at our feet. Have you heard recently that some Ukrainian functionary raked Kadyrov at some conference in Europe, and on the move, counting without having time to say hello, he began to dump the state secrets known to him?
                        A traitor is a traitor, just a little more mind than the rest. In general, apparently they have already decided everything. And those few scum, who have a little more intelligence, fully understand that they will soon be hapless, for this, already decided, attack. And they are in a hurry to soften their fate in advance. This one was in such a hurry that he didn't even look for a connection, he saw Kadyrov, and right there ... What does this mean? The moment is very close. Do not have the time.
                        And what will happen in the lands we have seized against our will? Well, the same will happen. Ass-licking traitors and night-killing wolves are cowards stabbing in the back and getting drunk with the blood of the defenseless. It is not yet known who is worse. To pacify the land, you have to kill. Judge quickly, that is, remember the tribunals, and kill enemies.
                        It is sad, but either our loss, defeat by NATO forces (not by Ukraine)), and then all these guys will cut us all out, to the root, they will not spare anyone. Or victory, and then we'll be covered in blood. In a lot of blood.
                        And by the way. The number of topics, articles and appeals of the Ukrainian "Internet troops" has grown many times over the entire network. Do not breathe. What is it for?
                      19. clerk
                        clerk April 9 2021 09: 21
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                        The problem is that you have to. So Ukraine decided. They want blood, they don't sleep at night, they grit their teeth. And they will rush no matter what we do
                        Is not a fact. They are cowards. As soon as Russia officially threatened to intervene, they immediately set their tails between them.
                        ... And what will happen in the lands we have seized against our will? Well, the same will happen. Ass-licking traitors and night-killing wolves are cowards stabbing in the back and getting drunk with the blood of the defenseless. It is not yet known who is worse. To pacify the land, you have to kill. Judge quickly, that is, remember the tribunals, and kill enemies.
                        ... Russia will not get dirty. They will wait until one of the strongest sane spider (for example, Avakov) remains and will negotiate with him after the fact. And to greet the people at home.
                        ... by the way. The number of topics, articles and appeals of the Ukrainian "Internet troops" has grown many times over the entire network. Do not breathe. What is it for?
                        ... The rats are suffocating. They don't want to eat each other. But you have to.
                        ... In general, apparently they have already decided everything. And those few scum, who have a little more intelligence, fully understand that they will soon be hapless, for this, already decided, attack. And they are in a hurry to soften their fate in advance
                        Yeah. No wonder even here they whined about Soviet humanism and peacefulness. laughing
                      20. Mikhail3
                        Mikhail3 April 9 2021 09: 25
                        0
                        Hope you are correct. I hope, but I don't believe it, I'm sorry. Because Ukrainian heroes are too cowardly to attack on their own. And the United States is in such a position that they need a military victory over anyone they want more than ever. Especially over China's most powerful ally! The temptation is great and intolerable. Bandera's people are counting not on attacking us, but on their usual job - the job of an executioner.
                        They would only get to the population. Defenseless, unarmed, unable to fight, ill-mannered, betrayed by his superiors and leaders of the population. Having no weapon, no skill to hold it, no mental strength. This is where the executioners will unfold with might and main ...
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  2. ANB
    ANB April 7 2021 22: 29
    +2
    ... there were monsters who destroyed the civilian population.

    APU and the Nazis who joined them from the right sector and other similar organizations?
  3. Flooding
    Flooding April 8 2021 00: 41
    -2
    Quote: ANB
    APU and the Nazis who joined them from the right sector and other similar organizations?

    if further explanation is required and my words were not clear enough:
    - you need to be equal to the Soviet soldiers who did not destroy the civilian population of Germany in revenge for the atrocities of the Nazis.
    This is my answer to a cheesy little man who protects non-humans who call for the destruction of civilians.
  4. ANB
    ANB April 8 2021 00: 54
    +4
    ... it is necessary to be equal to the Soviet soldiers who did not destroy the civilian population of Germany in revenge for the atrocities of the fascists.

    Right. Here the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine would hear you. Otherwise, they just destroy the civilian population of Donbass. These are non-humans.
  5. Flooding
    Flooding April 8 2021 01: 00
    0
    Quote: ANB
    Here the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine would hear you. Otherwise, they just destroy the civilian population of Donbass. These are the non-humans

    all war criminals who have smeared their hands with the blood of an innocent civilian population are non-humans.
    whether they are from the Ukrainian Armed Forces or Bandera gangs
    or the Nazis and their accomplices during the Great Patriotic War
    And I argue just about this.
    About the fact that calling for the murder of civilians is an unacceptable act for a person.
  6. ANB
    ANB April 7 2021 23: 39
    +4
    ... and there was a Soviet soldier who fought with the enemy, not with children.

    Which is banned in Ukraine (propaganda of Soviet symbols) and held in high esteem in Russia, DPR and LPR.
  7. Flooding
    Flooding April 8 2021 00: 48
    0
    Quote: ANB
    Which is banned in Ukraine (propaganda of Soviet symbols) and held in high esteem in Russia, DPR and LPR.

    who can argue.
    Walk up the branch and you will understand what the dispute I have with these Bandera lackeys.
  8. ANB
    ANB April 7 2021 23: 42
    +3
    ... study the history of the Great Patriotic War. everything has passed before us.

    That is why the offensive of the republics was stopped in 2014.
    Ps. And we silently put the minuses on the answers to you, since there is nothing to object?
  9. Flooding
    Flooding April 8 2021 00: 49
    0
    Quote: ANB
    And we silently put the minuses on the answers to you, since there is nothing to object?

    did not give you a single minus.
    But was it necessary?
    you, apparently, added your opinion about the essence of the correspondence according to the last few comments
    read up and, perhaps, understand your mistake
  10. ANB
    ANB April 8 2021 00: 59
    +2
    ... did not give you a single minus.
    But was it necessary?
    you, apparently, added your opinion about the essence of the correspondence according to the last few comments
    read up and, perhaps, understand your mistake

    So some kind of Bandera is having fun.
    Your dispute went wrong. But it has no practical meaning.
    Russian troops will not kill civilians. But how to save the residents of Donbass at the same time is a difficult question. So they are trying to solve it.
  11. Flooding
    Flooding April 8 2021 01: 06
    -1
    Quote: ANB
    Your dispute went wrong. But it has no practical meaning.
    Russian troops will not kill civilians. But how to save the residents of Donbass at the same time is a difficult question. So they are trying to solve it.

    The dispute is just right in the vein.
    This Bandera and their lackeys on the forum are calling for the destruction of the population of Ukraine.
    They sow hatred in order to burn all bridges and not return to a peaceful life.
    And the fact that all sorts of trashy little people talk about the topic - it gives them away with their feet.
    Professionals.
    Therefore, I regularly pull out the topic of the dispute.
    Let everyone see and understand who is who
    Quote: Mikhail3
    now Ukraine with its Ukrainians is another Slavic enemy, that's all. And just like with the rest, it must be covered with blood, and then indifferently watch how they die there

    The dispute went in the wrong place, you say?
    So they are trying to drive him into a comfortable channel for themselves.
    But I will poke these inhumans with their own words.
  12. ANB
    ANB April 8 2021 01: 09
    0
    ... So they are trying to drive him into a comfortable channel for themselves.

    You have to argue with a cool head.
    I'll write in a personal tomorrow.
  13. Flooding
    Flooding April 8 2021 01: 10
    0
    Quote: ANB
    You have to argue with a cool head.
    I'll write in a personal tomorrow.

    I can't be calm with such scum
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  • Clear
    Clear April 7 2021 19: 52
    +5
    Quote: clerk
    Only not in the style of “stop doing this and that”, but “you need to do this and that”!

    We need to stop shooting at people and settlements in the Donbass. And you live as and with whom you like. And that's it !!!
    By the way, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also the people of Ukraine, who shot at their own Ukrainians and are proud to the point of impossibility.
    1. clerk
      clerk April 7 2021 20: 06
      -2
      ... Only not in the style of “stop doing this and that”, but “you need to do this and that”!

      We need to stop shooting at people and settlements in the Donbass. And you live as and with whom you like. And that's it !!!
      By the way, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also the people of Ukraine, who shot at their own Ukrainians and are proud to the point of impossibility.
      We are discussing measures that can be taken by Russia. Who is your advice for?
      1. Clear
        Clear April 7 2021 20: 13
        +1
        Quote: clerk
        ... Only not in the style of “stop doing this and that”, but “you need to do this and that”!

        We need to stop shooting at people and settlements in the Donbass. And you live as and with whom you like. And that's it !!!
        By the way, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also the people of Ukraine, who shot at their own Ukrainians and are proud to the point of impossibility.
        We are discussing measures that can be taken by Russia. Who is your advice for?

        In general, or what? request You yourself ask what to do and what not to do ...
        Quote: clerk
        So what do you think needs to be done for this? State specific steps. Only not in the style of “stop doing this and that”, but “you need to do this and that”!

        You need to - STOP SHOOTING!
        1. clerk
          clerk April 7 2021 20: 18
          -3
          ... We are discussing measures that can be taken by Russia. Who is your advice for?

          In general, or what? request You ask yourself what to do and what not to do ...
          Quote: clerk
          So what do you think needs to be done for this? State specific steps. Only not in the style of “stop doing this and that”, but “you need to do this and that”!

          You need to - STOP SHOOTING!
          ... Once again I will clarify (so that you would not give up your words later) - is this you advising Russia?
        2. Clear
          Clear April 7 2021 20: 20
          +3
          Quote: clerk
          ... We are discussing measures that can be taken by Russia. Who is your advice for?

          In general, or what? request You ask yourself what to do and what not to do ...
          Quote: clerk
          So what do you think needs to be done for this? State specific steps. Only not in the style of “stop doing this and that”, but “you need to do this and that”!

          You need to - STOP SHOOTING!
          ... Once again I will clarify (so that you would not give up your words later) - is this you advising Russia?

          Russia is not a participant in the civil armed conflict in Ukraine. As they say, teach materiel.
        3. clerk
          clerk April 7 2021 20: 23
          -3
          .Need - STOP SHOOTING!
          /////////. Once again I will clarify (so that you would not give up your words later) - is this what you advise Russia?

          Russia is not a participant in the civil armed conflict in Ukraine. As they say, learn materiel
          So who is your provocative and so far unaddressed advice addressed to?
          You need to - STOP SHOOTING !.
          Answer specifically and without these provocative Svidomo subterfuges
        4. Clear
          Clear April 7 2021 20: 34
          +3
          Quote: clerk
          So who is your provocative and so far unaddressed advice addressed to?
          Oh, there is no need to assert yourself in the form of a fun-filled provocateur. And if you answer, then the address is spelled correctly.

          Quote: clerk
          Answer specifically and without these provocative Svidomo subterfuges
          Go to the Maidan in Kiev and loudly demand it.
        5. clerk
          clerk April 7 2021 20: 51
          0
          ... So who is your provocative and so far unaddressed advice addressed to?
          ////: // :: Oh, there is no need to assert yourself in the form of a fun-filled provocateur. And if you answer, then the address is spelled correctly.
          ... You never answered - to whom is your provocative and unaddressed advice “We need to stop shooting at people and settlements in Donbass” - Russia, the LPNR or the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
        6. Clear
          Clear April 7 2021 21: 52
          +2
          Quote: clerk
          ... So who is your provocative and so far unaddressed advice addressed to?
          ////: // :: Oh, there is no need to assert yourself in the form of a fun-filled provocateur. And if you answer, then the address is spelled correctly.
          ... You never answered - to whom is your provocative and unaddressed advice “We need to stop shooting at people and settlements in Donbass” - Russia, the LPNR or the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

          Clerk, now I understand why the West has swallowed you (Ukraine and the Balts), but will never digest. No.
          And, in relation to Russia and Ukraine, then here, as in that song, "... if your wife left you for another, then another question is who is lucky ..."
        7. clerk
          clerk April 7 2021 21: 59
          -1
          ... ... You never answered - to whom is your provocative and unaddressed advice “We need to stop shooting at people and settlements in Donbass” - Russia, the LPNR or the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

          ///// Clerk, now I understand why the West has swallowed you (Ukraine and the Balts), but will never digest. no
          And, in relation to Russia and Ukraine, then here, as in that song, "... if your wife left you for another, then another question is who is lucky ..."
          Now it is clear that you are another "Crimean woman - the daughter of an officer" (s), but you are not doing well.
        8. Clear
          Clear April 7 2021 23: 17
          +1
          Quote: clerk
          Now it is clear that you are another "Crimean woman - the daughter of an officer" (c)
          Thank God that at least something is clear. Already progress.

          Quote: clerk
          but you're not doing well.
          So far with you, and not good enough.
        9. clerk
          clerk April 8 2021 20: 23
          -1
          ... Now it is clear that you are another "Crimean woman - the daughter of an officer" (c) ////:
          Thank God that at least something is clear. Already progress.
          Kindergarten - panties with straps (c). If you want to say something sensible, then just answer - to whom is your provocative and unaddressed advice “We need to stop shooting at people and settlements in Donbass” - Russia, LDNR or Armed Forces of Ukraine?
        10. Clear
          Clear April 9 2021 14: 45
          +2
          Quote: clerk
          Kindergarten - panties with straps (c).

          I don't care what kind of shorts your grandmother, in action, took you from kindergarten, but it's a pity, criminally and inhumanely, when, as a result of the shelling of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, since 2014, in the Donbass, UN monitoring mission data killed 148 children: 98 boys and 50 girls. 363 children were injured.
        11. clerk
          clerk April 9 2021 15: 25
          0
          when, as a result of shelling by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, since 2014, in Donbass, according to the UN monitoring mission, 148 children were killed: 98 boys and 50 girls. 363 children were injured.
          That is, I understood correctly that your advice “We need to stop shooting at people and settlements in Donbass” is addressed to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not to someone else?
        12. Clear
          Clear April 9 2021 15: 41
          +2
          Quote: clerk
          is it addressed to the APU, and not to someone else?
          Think, Clerk, think ...


          Quote: clerk
          that is, I understood correctly
          I try not to evaluate the statements of the opponent No.
        13. clerk
          clerk April 10 2021 11: 50
          0
          That is, I understood correctly that your advice “We need to stop shooting at people and settlements in Donbass” is addressed to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not to someone else? /// Think, Clerk, think ...
          Unfortunately, you do not give reasons for this. The usual Bandera slipperiness instead of a specific answer. Your difference from your banned Bandera friend is only that you have not yet rolled into rudeness and insults.
        14. Clear
          Clear April 10 2021 17: 30
          +2
          Quote: clerk
          Unfortunately, you do not give reasons for this.
          I am very happy.


          Quote: clerk
          The usual Bandera slipperiness instead of a specific answer.
          It has always been assumed that the Banderaites are better than you, from birth, no one knows.


          Quote: clerk
          Your difference from your banned Bandera friend is only that you have not yet rolled into rudeness and insults.
          I have no doubt that you are better off looking for differences in silence.
  • Maikcg
    Maikcg April 9 2021 23: 28
    +1
    This can only be achieved by burning down the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine by 99 percent, or in other words "pouring blood", as noted above. And it is perfectly fair not to start saving against the will of the person being saved.
  • Flooding
    Flooding April 7 2021 12: 19
    0
    Quote: Mikhail3
    the same as with the rest, it must be covered with blood, and then indifferently watch how they die there

    words of either an enemy or a narrow-minded person or a mentally unbalanced person
    disgrace
    for such words they are driven out of a decent society
    this also applies to those provocateurs who put pluses for inciting hatred
    .
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 April 7 2021 13: 17
      +3
      Yah! And what is it, this is the most "decent society"? My heart tells me that the tone in it is set by those who pour someone else's blood. And when someone comes for their blood, they are suddenly very indignant. No wonder the positions of the Ukrainian artillery are mainly located in the courtyards of hospitals, schools and kindergartens ...
      1. Flooding
        Flooding April 7 2021 13: 20
        -6
        Quote: Mikhail3
        My heart tells me that the tone in it is set by those who pour someone else's blood

        Trader, go and shed blood on the battlefield, both your own and someone else's. It will be much more honest than writing such inhuman things.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        No wonder the positions of the Ukrainian artillery are mainly located in the courtyards of hospitals, schools and kindergartens.

        You do not cover your meanness with the meanness of other scoundrels
    2. Maikcg
      Maikcg April 9 2021 23: 30
      0
      Shame on those who, instead of "pouring the blood of the enemy," want to "pour the blood of their own," and this is precisely what happens when for all good against all bad.
  • Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 April 7 2021 13: 41
    +2
    They became our enemies and became when they fell under the influence of our enemies. Do not surrender the territory and the local population will not be used against you.
  • tacet
    tacet April 13 2021 08: 43
    0
    So the theory of Pan-Slavism was once invented in Russia
    In fact, Pan-Slavism was invented in the Czech Republic (it was then still a part of Austria-Hungary)
  • Bauer
    Bauer April 7 2021 13: 24
    +5
    It was, yes, it swam. Policemen and camp guards were also Slavs. But they were hanged.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding April 7 2021 13: 41
      -1
      Quote: Bauer
      Policemen and camp guards were also Slavs. But they were hung

      to hang traitors, renegades is one thing
      but to call upon the people to be flooded with blood is completely different
      do you not understand such an elementary thing?
      Quote: Mikhail3
      now Ukraine with its Ukrainians is another Slavic enemy, that's all. And just like with the rest, it must be covered with blood, and then indifferently watch them die there.


      For me, these are the words of a real enemy calling for mutual extermination to the delight of the West.
      1. your1970
        your1970 April 7 2021 14: 38
        +2
        Quote: Flood
        to hang traitors, renegades is one thing
        but to call upon the people to be flooded with blood is completely different
        do you not understand such an elementary thing?

        Every policeman and traitor had a family and friends ...
        The current Terbat and Bandera members also have families, friends and supporters.
        By shooting Bandera, we will get at least a couple of million hating us people.
        What to do with the son - whose father - Bandera's fighter will be shot and who wants to take revenge for it?
        How to stop those who will take revenge on the terrorists for their tortured relatives?

        According to the most rough estimates - at least a million - if we occupy the country 404. Someone in the camps, someone in the ravine ... Alas, this is reality, otherwise we will get Bandera ala 1945-1956
        1. Flooding
          Flooding April 7 2021 15: 29
          -3
          Quote: your1970
          According to the most rough estimates - at least a million - if we occupy the country 404. Someone in the camps, someone in the ravine ... Alas, this is reality, otherwise we will get Bandera ala 1945-1956

          There are red lines that cannot be crossed without ceasing to be human.
          In the 45th year, according to your logic, all Germans should have been expended.
          Write terrible things.
          1. your1970
            your1970 April 7 2021 15: 58
            +2
            Quote: Flood
            In the 45th year, according to your logic, all Germans should have been expended.

            They were MORALLY ready for this, knowing what their relatives and themselves have done ... That is why Werfolf was liquidated in just a couple of months - from the understanding of guilt ...
            But Bandera, AKovtsy and similar forest brothers - considered themselves right. Therefore, they drove them almost 10 years after the war ...
            In our situation, it will be exactly the same - the Banderaites and their entourage will consider themselves right .. How, "SUGS!" ...
            Either we have them - or they are poison in the water supply and an explosion in the kindergarten ..
            Keeping Semenchenko or Yarosh in prison for life? Well, an option as a last resort. ...
            Or do you hope that Putin will say “Dimochka, it’s not good to behave !! Ay-yay-yay!” And Yarosh will immediately correct himself, dissolve the “PS” and start working as a turner at the plant?

            Z. Y. Even in the peaceful Crimea, some grumble- "They say life was better under Ukraine !!"
            1. Flooding
              Flooding April 7 2021 18: 09
              -4
              Quote: your1970
              They were MORAL for this, knowing what their relatives and they themselves had done ...

              do not write nonsense and gag
              "mentally prepared"
              the denazification of minds lasted for decades, starting from school
              you are either very much out of topic, or you are trying to come up with an excuse for the provocateur and incitement
            2. Flooding
              Flooding April 7 2021 18: 11
              -5
              Quote: your1970
              To keep Semenchenko or Yarosh in prison for life?

              you seem to be able to read
              place of Bandera in the land
              I wrote about the people of Ukraine
              Are you pretending to be a fool?
              1. your1970
                your1970 April 7 2021 19: 26
                +2
                Quote: Flood
                Are you pretending to be a fool?

                and you?
                you don’t understand-that Bandera’s not 100 people and not 1000?
                you do not understand that they have wives, children, friends - who will begin to avenge
                Quote: Flood
                place of Bandera in the land
                ??
                Do you not understand that at least 1/3 of the population is opposed to Russia now?
                Do you not understand - that in the event of the introduction of troops - there will be losses among civilians, whose relatives, too, will not happily throw themselves around us?
                You YOURSELF (!!!!!!!!!!) write
                Quote: Flood
                the denazification of minds lasted for decades
                and write right there
                Quote: Flood
                I wrote about the people of Ukraine
                ??
                You don’t understand - that they were 30 told about the superiority of Ukrainians over all and that "The best Russian is a dead Russian !! mockalyaku on gilyaku !!"?
                You don’t understand what they are into this BELIEVE?
                and we will have to
                Quote: Flood
                to hang traitors, renegades
                , as well as everyone who went into the forest, who began to take revenge and harm, to hang, and the entire apparatus of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine (100%), the entire top of the army up to the major, inclusive, the entire Verkhovna Rada and in general the entire apparatus of power - to plant, and for a long time (10 -15-20 years old)
                Just somewhere about a million - one and a half and will come running
                Or do you want to leave the Crimean Tatar Mejlis free, or Right Sector, or Azov with a Tornado?

                Here either-or, there will be no time for tears, alas ...

                The only option so that the blood was not in our hands is not to liberate Ukraine for us, but to wait until they themselves cut out the evil spirits for themselves ...

                Once again - if you don't understand- turn over situation on us-for understanding feelings ordinary people
                more... fantasy
                They come to us in the Russian Federation - to free us from Bandera - you are happy about it, but then an RANDOM shell arrives and kills your beautiful wife and daughter. Really? Yes, quite easily !!
                Will you go hugging joyfully Ukrainian soldiers in such a situation?
                Rather, you will take an ax the next night and chop up these soldiers (it may well be not to blame!) - after which you will leave for the woods to take revenge ...
                Maximum (crazy and almost unreal!) - you will remain relatively loyal (you won't take an ax !!) - but you will still be dirty and sabotage ...

                What happened in real life in the 40-50s
              2. Flooding
                Flooding April 7 2021 19: 38
                -5
                the impression that I am communicating with a child who has not played enough with soldiers and does not know the value of life and death.
                stop writing your creepy and scary nonsense.
                inhumanity cannot be justified
                you have no place among people if you think that you need to destroy the families of enemies along with children.
                if you really think so, then you are no better than those Bandera and Nazis who destroyed the civilian population.
                then you are sick and you need to be denazified.
                Quote: your1970
                you do not understand that they have wives, children, friends - who will begin to take revenge

                I do not understand you
                do you want to pour blood on the people like your client?
              3. your1970
                your1970 April 7 2021 20: 28
                +2
                Quote: Flood
                stop writing your creepy and scary nonsense.

                For you personally, if it doesn't reach, what will you do with those who shouted for 30 years
                Quote: your1970
                "The best Russian - dead Russian !! mockalaku on gilyaku !!"?
                ??? !!!!
                WHAT????? Give a chocolate bar ??
                Hitler ruled for only 12 years (!!!!!) - these rule 30 (!!!!!!!!) .In Ukraine, children born in 1990 under this slogan have already given birth to their children under the same slogan
                You don't understand what's there loyal to Russia, God forbid half of the population- no more ??? in reality, a third, God forbid ...

                Quote: Flood
                if you think that you need to destroy the families of enemies along with the children.

                The impression that I communicate with a child who does not know how to read and does not want to.
                He chewed, explained that they would make us do it. ...
                That the only option is bloodless for us is
                Quote: your1970
                The only option so that the blood was not in our hands is not to liberate Ukraine for us, but to wait until they themselves cut out the evil spirits for themselves ...

                Does not help...
                Once again -1945-56, they hanged, shot, and imprisoned the Banderaites. And besides this, they shot and imprisoned their accomplices - those same civilians for whom you staged a tantrum.
                Do you prefer between 10 and 15 million people planted for 1-1,5 years?
                The Nazis occupied Ukraine for 4 years, the current Banderites have been brainwashing the population there for 30 years.
                Do you believe that you can correct them with a word? Believe, your right ....
              4. Flooding
                Flooding April 7 2021 20: 37
                -5
                Quote: your1970
                Once again -1945-56, they hanged, shot, and imprisoned the Banderaites. And besides this, they shot and imprisoned their accomplices - those same civilians for whom you staged a tantrum.

                pick up the snot
                to point out a place for non-humans calling for the murder of civilians - is this hysterical?
                stop making excuses
                what have the accomplices to do with it?
                Quote: your1970
                you do not understand that they have wives, children, friends - who will begin to take revenge

                you wrote about children!
                if you continue to justify these terrible words, then I will write everything that I think about you and those like you
                machine in hand and go fight!
                but do not call for the murder of children and women!

                I do not understand whether you are either complete degradants or accomplices of the same Bandera people who dream of a massacre.
              5. your1970
                your1970 April 7 2021 21: 20
                +3
                And you are undermined by hysterics .... Let me remind you - that in 1945-56 children aged 12 and over were messengers, scouts and simply shot in the back of the Red Army and local authorities. One of these "children " - deputy of the Verkhovna Rada now...

                That YOU propose to do with children who grew up under the Bandera regime, shouting his entire adult life "Kill the Russian !!" and shooting in the back of the Russian army?
                Well? What thoughts will be?
                Last time (in 1945-56) there were a lot of them - what to do with them now?
              6. Flooding
                Flooding April 7 2021 21: 44
                -5
                Quote: your1970
                And you are undermined by hysterics .... Let me remind you - that in 1945-56 children aged 12 and over were messengers, scouts and simply shot in the back of the Red Army and local authorities. One of these "children" is a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada now

                you've written enough already
                and all this in order to cover the non-human who wrote this
                Quote: Mikhail3
                now Ukraine with its Ukrainians is another Slavic enemy, that's all. And just like with the rest, it must be covered with blood, and then indifferently watch how they die there

                if you defend him, then you are an accomplice in inciting ethnic hatred.
                if you still do not understand what is happening and which side you are on, then this also casts doubt on your mental abilities.
              7. your1970
                your1970 April 7 2021 22: 45
                0
                Quote: Flood
                Quote: your1970
                And you are undermined by hysterics .... Let me remind you - that in 1945-56 children aged 12 and over were messengers, scouts and simply shot in the back of the Red Army and local authorities. One of these "children" is a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada now

                you've written enough already
                and all this in order to cover the non-human who wrote this
                Quote: Mikhail3
                now Ukraine with its Ukrainians is another Slavic enemy, that's all. And just like with the rest, it must be covered with blood, and then indifferently watch how they die there

                if you defend him, then you are an accomplice in inciting ethnic hatred.
                if you still do not understand what is happening and which side you are on, then this also casts doubt on your mental abilities.

                for the hundredth time - without protecting anyone and without inciting anything - I ask you personally
                Quote: your1970
                Let me remind you - in 1945-56, children aged 12 and over were liaison officers, scouts and simply shot in the back of the Red Army and local authorities. One of these "children" is a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada now ...
                What do YOU ​​propose to do with children who grew up under the Bandera regime, shouting their entire adult life "Kill the Russian !!" and shooting in the back of the Russian army?
                Well? What thoughts will be?
                Last time (in 1945-56) there were a lot of them - what to do with them now?


                Have an answer? No answer? What is your option?
                but no - you can be hysterical about "inciting hatred", but what to do with it - he cannot say ...
              8. Flooding
                Flooding April 8 2021 00: 54
                -5
                You chatter the topic and try to ignore the enormity of the words with which our debate began.
                Quote: your1970
                but no - you can be hysterical about "inciting hatred", but what to do with it - he cannot say ...

                can you name another call to pour blood on the people of Ukraine?
                and your words about families that can take revenge? they are monstrous!
                I have already written and I repeat: you are enemies of the Russian people, acting in the interests of Bandera, sowing hatred between peoples
              9. your1970
                your1970 April 8 2021 12: 15
                +2
                Quote: Flood
                and your words about families that can take revenge? they are monstrous!

                The deputy of the Verkhovna Rada - who was a courier in the UPA at the age of 12 - took revenge on the Soviet regime ...
                This is a real fact of history, an accomplished, documented ...
                Your words about "miraculousness" - refer to the fact that he shot in the back of the Red Army and the Soviet government, or to the fact that I suggested that the current 12 year old can shoot in the back of the Russian army and the Russian authorities?
                You decide - if the first - then the Bandera in 1945-56 in the forests is a fiction and a fairy tale, if the second - then in spite of your tantrums about "kravazhadnost" - such will have to be planted
              10. Flooding
                Flooding April 8 2021 14: 24
                -4
                Quote: your1970
                You decide - if the first - then the Bandera in 1945-56 in the forests is a fiction and a fairy tale, if the second - then in spite of your hysterics about "kravazhadnost" - such will have to be planted

                build a fool again
                are you not literate? read what I wrote above! and read what your client wrote!
                Quote: Mikhail3
                now Ukraine with its Ukrainians is another Slavic enemy, that's all. And just like with the rest, it must be covered with blood, and then indifferently watch how they die there

                and what did you write!
                Quote: your1970
                What to do with the son - whose father - Bandera's fighter will be shot and who wants to take revenge for it?
                How to stop those who will take revenge on the terrorists for their tortured relatives?
                According to the most rough estimates - at least a million - if we occupy the country 404 - some in the camps, some in the ravine.

                You are Bandera singers who dream of big blood.
              11. your1970
                your1970 April 8 2021 17: 45
                +1
                Quote: Flood
                You are Bandera singers who dream of big blood.
                -and you are hysterical, unable not only to answer a direct question, but even for their own words not answering:
                Quote: Flood
                you seem to be able to read
                place of Bandera in the land
                -so by Your (!!!) same logic - You also want blood !!!!
                You urgently need to be ashamed of them and write, "This is different !!"
                Hysterical demagogue .....
  • spolo
    spolo April 8 2021 03: 49
    0
    I think all citizens of Ukraine loyal to Russia are already in the majority outside Ukraine .. Crimea and the unrecognized republics. Therefore, it is not worth doing a good face on a bad game.
  • clerk
    clerk April 7 2021 19: 06
    0
    But Bandera, AKovtsy and similar forest brothers - considered themselves right. Therefore, they drove them almost 10 years after the war ...
    In our situation, it will be exactly the same - the Banderaites and their entourage will consider themselves right .. How, "SUGS!" ...
    Either we have them - or they are poison in the water supply and an explosion in the kindergarten ..
    Keeping Semenchenko or Yarosh in prison for life? Well, an option as a last resort. ... ...
    Provide a choice - either prison, or voluntary emigration, or public repentance and work in this role as a pro-Russian propagandist for the rest of his life.
  • Clear
    Clear April 9 2021 15: 42
    +2
    Quote: Bauer
    It was, yes, it swam. Policemen and camp guards were also Slavs. But they were hanged.

    Quite right. Nationality has nothing to do with it.
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    2. andrew42
      andrew42 April 7 2021 17: 28
      0
      Do not pass imaginary as real. Poles are an integral ethnic group, as if not a mixture. And to our regret, the most that neither is the Slavs. True, it is nonsense to call the catholicized Slavs, but nevertheless this is the haplogroup R1A in its purest form. Poles are an old analogue of the current Velikoukr project. For almost 1000 years they were the "eastern spear" of the Vatican, they were sharpened and resharpened .. Now against Russia the second ram of new mankurts is being forged - the Outskirts. But all the same, it will fall apart, some of the Poles will leave (the gentlemen were waiting for the return of their slaves), and some will return to Russia. But we seem to have to "partner" with the Poles until the end of time, they have everything in openwork with self-identification - these will definitely not crack, like the 404th territory, and they will spoil us a lot of blood, exactly as long as the American owner is alive and well ... And then they will look for a new one.
  • businessv
    businessv April 7 2021 10: 34
    +5
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Well, the Slavs, the Poles are also Slavs, but that’s the point.

    The Poles have always been a weather vane. Have you forgotten that Churchill called Poland the Hyena of Europe? He outlined the very essence of this country and its majority of its inhabitants. No wonder the mattress makes it its mouthpiece in Europe. They will sell everything for money, without exception.
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 April 7 2021 10: 40
    +2
    For a long time, a significant part of the Polish elite considered their people more likely the descendants of the Sarmatians. The so-called ideology of "Sarmatism".
  • Aleks tv
    Aleks tv April 7 2021 10: 54
    +2
    Quote: Installer
    In general, all this is sad. Slavs to Slavs. The mattress dream has come true.

    Hello.

    Right to the point ..
    Therefore, in practice, I do not comment on the events in Ukraine.
    It all hurts.
    EHEH ................

    .................

    And the topic of the backwriter and the javelin has already set my teeth on edge.
    She is FASHIONABLE now. And the attitude to this weapon is fashionable - a wunderwaffle.
    Yes, this is a good weapon, no need to belittle it, but there is no point in twitching in fear.
    1.Backwriter. What, before that we had no air threats? Nope, no aviation fronts, no guided artillery shells, no self-guided elements of MLRS ... No, there weren't.
    2.Javelin. And what, no one had aimed at the upper projection of armored vehicles before? No Apaches, no MLRS cassettes. I didn't aim.
    Come on.

    This threat has always existed. Now it just got stronger.
    It is necessary to finalize the set of measures that should have been finalized a long time ago.
    These are army air defense, and KAZ armored vehicles and normal dynamic protection of the upper projection of equipment.
    As long as the warhead of THIS threat is cumulative, it is absolutely not difficult to organize effective protection.
    A simple set of layered measures with existing weapons and current technologies.

    Otherwise, Kontakt-1 72B closes the upper projection better than Krntakt-5 on 72B3 ...
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  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st April 7 2021 10: 21
    +6
    Honestly, Westerners have this when
    You enter the village and there is no one but old people, women and children ...
  • neri73-r
    neri73-r April 7 2021 10: 27
    +2
    Honestly, I don't want to amputate an organ infected in 2014. I want the wound to heal.

    Alas, the doctor said to cut, at least partially. (c) Give Zapadentsev to Poland, the last greedy will take, let each other gnaw.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 7 2021 10: 42
      0
      Westerners and Poles hate each other. In addition, in Eastern Galicia, although it borders on Poland, the percentage of Poles is scanty, much less than in neighboring regions of Ukraine.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon April 7 2021 10: 56
        +3
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Westerners and Poles hate each other.

        That's why give it back. yes
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus April 8 2021 20: 59
          +2
          No, first, all Bandera's people should be resettled in Galicia, well, not in prisons to feed them for life. And then give it to everyone in a crowd and give it to the Poles.
  • vl903
    vl903 April 7 2021 11: 04
    -3
    it's all their popaganda. ours also tells us fairy tales about us and the US Army. and we also happily believe
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine April 7 2021 10: 13
    -1
    I like the Ukrainian media. Today there are no funnier publications and more cheerful humorists than those who work there.

    I also like ukroyumorists, especially Gordon, but I don't always understand him, here are the words from his song -
    I will buy you a house in the village of Kobyl.
    Crackling duckweed.

    Here is the last sentence of a purebred "Ukrainian" I still do not understand, can anyone enlighten a naive Chukchi youth?
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 April 7 2021 10: 50
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Here is the last sentence of a purebred "Ukrainian" I still do not understand

      Seeking duckweed with its beak bully
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 7 2021 11: 26
        -1
        Quote: Dym71
        Seeking duckweed with its beak

        As Zadornov said, “they are yes to us, but we are no longer there,” that is, we do not understand.
    2. vvvjak
      vvvjak April 7 2021 10: 50
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Crackling duckweed.

      I dare to assume that this phrase means "looking for a duckweed with its beak"
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 7 2021 11: 28
        -1
        Quote: vvvjak
        I dare to assume that this phrase means "looking for a duckweed with its beak"

        Well, this is what I was able to remember, and then everything was like Martian words.
        1. vvvjak
          vvvjak April 7 2021 11: 38
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Well, this is what I was able to remember, and then everything was like Martian words.

          I completely believe you. I remember those times when the TV program wrote in supposedly Belarusian: "Apakhavelak and Aligatar Genadz" (Cheburashka and Crocodile Gena "if that).
    3. BAI
      BAI April 7 2021 12: 46
      +3
      I will buy you a house in the village of Kobyl.
      Crackling duckweed.


      The text is noticeably distorted. Original:

      I verse
      I will buy a hut near the village of Kobilyaka
      I will bring you a village in the Central Kazkovo
      Knowing a jock and a pig and a dog
      I plant a plum on a wink

      Pripіv
      And the wild pitching on the bet of the shuk quacking the duckweed
      I will bring you the village of kudi
      And wild kachur on the rate of shukaє dziobalom duckweed
      I will bring you the village of kudi


      But the song was ripped off from our "Lesopoval":

      I will buy you a house by a pond in the suburbs
      And I will bring you to this own home
      I will start pigeons both with you and with love
      We will plant lilacs under the window
      I will start pigeons both with you and with love
      We will plant lilacs under the window

      And the white swan on the pond rocks the fallen star
      On that pond where I will take you
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 7 2021 14: 07
        0
        Quote: BAI
        And wild kachur on the rate of shukaє dziobalom duckweed

        This is what I could not remember, but I don’t know how to translate it into a normal language.
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  • Alien From
    Alien From April 7 2021 10: 13
    +5
    I completely agree with the author, before the censor was blocked, it was wonderful to cheer up there. wassat you could use foul language there repeat
    1. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS April 7 2021 11: 07
      +8
      “It was a glorious hunt!” I myself had a good time there, until it was banned. Several times. In a row. But what emotions, what intensity of passions in verbal battles with Bandera! It was worth it.
  • knn54
    knn54 April 7 2021 10: 19
    0
    - In the minds of Ukrainian citizens, some kind of fantastic belief in their own military industry, in their own design ideas and in their own production capabilities has been preserved.
    To consolidate the "material" Ukraine needs military parades.
    And I will add, in the APU, there are practically no reserves of gasoline and especially diesel fuel.
  • Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs April 7 2021 10: 25
    0
    The main thing is to cut flies on bairaks and javelins ... For God forbid ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 7 2021 10: 28
    +1
    Honestly, I don't want to amputate an organ infected in 2014. I want the wound to heal
    Without radical treatment, it will not go away by itself.
    1. cniza
      cniza April 7 2021 13: 35
      +4
      Here is the moxibustion, which would rather heal ...
    2. Clear
      Clear April 7 2021 20: 01
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Honestly, I don't want to amputate an organ infected in 2014. I want the wound to heal
      Without radical treatment, it will not go away by itself.

      Moreover, if not amputated, everything will perish.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 8 2021 09: 11
        +1
        You can start the amputation operation when you are ready / you can do it! But when all sorts of different fuss around and strenuously interfere ... but is it worth taking? when the result does not depend on you ...
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 April 7 2021 10: 32
    -1
    Beautifully, with a good dose of humor and realism of the review of the article by UkrogRdon
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra April 7 2021 10: 50
    -1
    Fig knows him. At the same time, there is something that laughs over the news, such as "What's rumble there?" that they have been at war with Russia for 7 years "
    On the other hand, I saw an episode when a resident of Mariupol told the residents of Mariupol that mines in the city were tales of Russian propaganda. So that you understand, it is not for the people of Kiev there or for the visitors of this portal, but for those who saw the inscription near the bridge "mines" themselves, and the bridge blown up in December 2014 also did not watch it on TV. At the same time, the resident of Marik himself is a small city, everyone knows each other. How can this be - and the hell knows
  • nnm
    nnm April 7 2021 11: 03
    0
    Colleague, everything is much easier! Butusov (please don't call him a journalist) is a man from Poroshenko's team. Therefore, he pours water intensively into his mill. Now he is simply going against Zelensky's actions. And remember the same "Censor" of the times of Petro Incognito - even before lunch we managed to win a couple of our divisions.
    This is a creature, and to call Butusov a man just doesn’t dare to call him - a kindler, a neo-Nazi and a gun-lover is not enough.
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    4. Black lotos
      Black lotos April 8 2021 23: 34
      -1
      Quote: nnm
      Butusov (please don't call him a journalist) is a man from Poroshenko's team

      Staver is promoting Butusov, and even imputes to him not enough jingoistic patriotic presentation.
      It is not clear what is pursuing our staff Staver in this moment, but such a symbiosis is not quite new.
      They stand and feed each other.
      A wave of cheers for patriotism on both sides, and even with the discussion of neighboring cheers for patriotic propagandists ..
      This is something like - hurray propagandists of all countries unite!
      Can they stir up a video chat with a joint one? laughing
      so to speak with "constructive criticism" of each other ..
      For a couple of years now, because of this, I see that links to VO as an authoritative source are turning into a source such as Lenta ru, or even lower. The value of reputation is no longer the same.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 7 2021 11: 12
    0
    Tell me, what is the name of the sheep's husband?
    - Sheep husband? Sheep, of course.
    - You yourself are a ram. The husband of the sheep is called the "ram"!

    The husband of a sheep ... the wife of a ram ... so, fir-trees, why now take them to the registry office and issue marriage certificates? (Indignation of the Senegalese shepherds)
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus April 8 2021 21: 18
      -1
      Not tolerant. In the civilized west, you want a sheep's husband, you want a sheep's wife for a long time. And everything is as it should, and the wedding, and the registry office, and the wedding ceremony, the wedding night is probably the same. laughing
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 April 7 2021 11: 29
    -1
    Felt that the interlocutor was proud the fact that Ukraine was able to abandon Russian components and try to produce a transport vehicle on its own.


    This is called patriotism .. We have quite a few of them too ..))
    In general, the article is good!
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 7 2021 12: 27
    -4
    The main users of Ukrainian media are people with a very narrow outlook. As a rule, during their entire life, they never went beyond their own village. The nearest regional center for them
    in general - "megapolis". TV is their only "window into the world." Therefore, you should not be surprised that they believe everything that they tell on shared channels. Add to this the level of education in rural schools and you will get a completely objective picture of "farmers' life" and thinking. Therefore, they so easily perceive the ideas of nationalism without realizing that, by and large, any nationalism is "the odeology of El". Everything is elementary ...
  • BAI
    BAI April 7 2021 12: 37
    +1
    In Ukraine, of those who write articles or speak on TV, there is only one sane person left - Pogrebinsky. The rest (s) are nonsense.
    1. domokl
      April 7 2021 13: 14
      0
      I disagree. Look or read the same Alexander Semchenko. A brave man and even from Kiev writes quite adequately. Although, a Doctor of Political Science is not just that ...
  • Mantykora
    Mantykora April 7 2021 13: 27
    +3
    Do not scratch everyone with the same brush. I live in Ukraine - and I don't watch TV taming. No, I certainly heard about the Javelins and Bayraktars - but again from Russian news. And the article is a retelling of nonsense. What for? Advertising alternatively gifted?
  • cniza
    cniza April 7 2021 13: 34
    +3
    And the sect of admirers of "Saint Javelin and the prophet Bayraktar" will go into oblivion ...


    Well, yes, only how many people have they already ruined, and we are all waiting for her to leave ...
    1. Clear
      Clear April 7 2021 20: 03
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      And the sect of admirers of "Saint Javelin and the prophet Bayraktar" will go into oblivion ...


      Well, yes, only how many people have they already ruined, and we are all waiting for her to leave ...

      No one goes anywhere on their own, voluntarily leaves
  • Li17
    Li17 April 7 2021 14: 56
    -1
    And by the way, yesterday they closed the NASH channel. Before that, there are three channels. This is the truth of their life, and it's okay that they soldered Medvedchuk's relatives and closed the channels, but OUR Muraeva actually ... The reason was invented, to another companion of him! That's all Ukrainian honesty!
  • Pastor
    Pastor April 7 2021 22: 39
    -2
    I remember the great Bender: Zanranitsa will help us! It was with these words that he robbed the suckers, It was with these words that the rulers of Ukraine rob their people. Although this is not their people, it is already just a population.
  • Financier
    Financier April 7 2021 23: 03
    +10
    none of the mighty of this world will never risk their country for such a victory

    Its nobody. For example, with Georgia or Ukraine, states can and do take risks. Constant tension is created at our borders. And we do not create tension in response to the Americans.
  • Vasily Antonov
    Vasily Antonov April 8 2021 16: 55
    0
    It is sad to realize this, but in the 30 years that have passed since the collapse of the USSR, a whole generation has grown up in Ukraine, poisoned by Bandera's propaganda. And many people of mature age share these views. Since the times of Kravchuk and Kuchma, the government
    The Russian Federation did not notice this infection, and now it is too late. There will be war.
  • Gunther
    Gunther April 8 2021 18: 16
    -1
    Quote: El Chuvachino
    You are talking about statehood, history, etc., then about the Slavs. Decide all the same. Ukrainians, for example, abandoned their history and common roots (they call us Moksha) and statehood and victories too.

    not the Urains refused, the pan-heads refused, and they have no nationality, the Manurts.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 8 2021 20: 05
    0
    By the way, in the Military News it was announced that the Russian Federation was interested in buying a license for Bayroctar in the 20th year and ordered an anti-sanction version.
  • Antagonist
    Antagonist April 9 2021 00: 46
    0
    I want the wound to heal

    The trail of the wound and the memories will remain. And you can't get away from it.
  • svoit
    svoit April 9 2021 17: 05
    0
    Quote: knn54

    -A kind of fantastic faith has been preserved in the heads of Ukrainian citizens
    And what has Russia done to completely bankrupt this faith and faith in all things Ukrainian? Here many ask what to do? Although the answer is on the surface, "everything has already been stolen before us," well, that is, invented, and passed a good practice, it remains only to learn and apply.