Speaker of the State Duma of the Russian Federation: The policy of official Kiev in Donbass may end with a tribunal for him

Incitement by the Ukrainian authorities of military action against the inhabitants of the LPR and DPR is unacceptable and will not go unpunished. The State Duma of the Russian Federation believes that such a policy of Kiev may end in a tribunal for it.

Speaker of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Vyacheslav Volodin wrote about this in his Telegram channel.

This was the reaction of the Russian politician to the death of a five-year-old child as a result of a strike. drone Armed Forces of Ukraine on the outskirts of Donetsk. He stated that official Kyiv is deliberately escalating the conflict in Donbas and intimidating its inhabitants. The Ukrainian authorities are doing nothing to help resolve the conflict. Volodin believes that this could end very badly for the Ukrainian leadership itself and bring it to the dock of the Hague Tribunal.

If the radical Ukrainian politicians believe that they can get away with everything they do in the LPR and DPR, then this is not so.

- said the speaker of the State Duma.

He also warned the Ukrainian leadership that he should not rely on Western support for his actions in Donbas. Indeed, Europe will not approve of the war unleashed by Kiev near the EU borders. And the United States will have to pay a triple price for support.

Recently, former commander of the US Ground Forces in Europe Ben Hodges told the Ukrainian program "Rada of National Security" that America and Russia will be able to find a common language if Moscow stops "showing aggression." At the same time, he added that only strength is respected in the Kremlin. At the same time, Hodges repeated the insult made by Joe Biden, but against the Russian president.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

Is it weak from the rostrum of the State Duma? Or at least for a journalist or some newspaper to repeat these words.

[The leader of the Redskins]

From the rostrum, it is not weak for a given citizen to declare that:
Putin, this is the main value of Russia!
And the rest of the statements are like this ... Quiet, sometimes with a smell ...

[Flooding]

Do you think there are so many vacancies for the State Duma speakers?

[The leader of the Redskins]

I will not say. I do not know. But man has one dignity. And it is important not to lose it, not to exchange it for platterism and populism. Hope you have the same values?

[Flooding]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

But man has one dignity. And it is important not to lose it, not to exchange it for platterism and populism. Hope you have the same values?

in words, everyone has ten in each pocket.
and even more.
some of the values ​​climb in an endless stream on the forums.
but when it comes down to it, everything is sadder by about 70 percent according to my estimates.
we are all weak people.
tongue is that it is boneless.

[Tatyana]

Against the background of the aggravation of the situation in Donbass on the territory of Ukraine, the US military aviation became more active.

So, on April 3, 2021, a military transport aircraft from the US Air Force Lockheed Martin C-130J landed at an airfield near Kiev. What is his American mission and what cargoes arrived with him is not yet reported.
It is known that on April 2, 2021, a Lockheed Martin C-130J of the United States Air Force, took off from the American Ramstein Air Base in Germany. Further, his path ran in the airspace of Poland. After Poland, the winged vehicle passed in the skies over western Ukraine and successfully landed in Kiev.

The Telegram channel also reported that today, April 4, at about 11 am Moscow time, an American military transport aircraft Boeing C-17 Globemaster III (Boeing C-17 " Globemaster "III) with tail number 95-0107. The nature of the military cargo arrived in Ukraine is also still unknown, but this news fits into the outline of the events of recent weeks, echelons with heavy equipment rushing towards Donbass and Kiev's open preparation for the offensive.
This aircraft usually performs strategic air transportation of cargo and troops, additionally - tactical missions, transportation of patients and dropping cargo from the aircraft.

By the way, remember that under the patronage of McCain, on a US military aircraft to Kiev, they delivered American currency to finance the punitive anti-terrorist operation in the Luhansk region and the Donbass by the Kiev hunt.

And on the eve, there was information that an American combat UAV flew in the airspace over the Donbas. The drone's path ran from the Mediterranean coast. The drone also flew near the shores of the Crimean Peninsula and part of the territory of the Krasnodar Territory. The exploration was carried out at an altitude of about 16 kilometers.

[Flooding]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

But man has one dignity. And it is important not to lose it, not to exchange it for platterism and populism.

It turned out strange.
I didn't want to put your words in a negative light.
And it turned out as if I disagree with you about "take care of your honor from your youth."
I agree, of course.
I just prefer the little thing needed to the big useless word.
+

[sleeve]

Maybe he truly believes in it. Does this happen?)

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Flood

Do you think there are so many vacancies for the State Duma speakers?

This one will not disappear, HSE will find where to attach it.

[210ox]

Probably from the rostrum he will not be allowed to say such nonsense.

[mitroha]

Quote: 210ox

Probably from the rostrum he will not be allowed to say such nonsense.

Why stupidity? Justify

[210ox]

About the tribunal in Ukraine. It is an international judicial body. It is well known how the "world community" relates to Ukraine. If the tribunal is created only by Russia, then all sentences for this very "community" will become illegitimate. And our leaders value the opinion of the "community" of this. Unfortunately. For me, not a tribunal is needed, but "Mercader 2.0 with an ice ax" However, a bullet or a scarf in the bathroom will also work. We are "bad guys", so we have to comply.

[mitroha]

Quote: 210ox

About the tribunal in Ukraine. It is an international judicial body. It is well known how the "world community" relates to Ukraine. If the tribunal is created only by Russia, then all sentences for this very "community" will become illegitimate. And our leaders value the opinion of the "community" of this. Unfortunately. For me, not a tribunal is needed, but "Mercader 2.0 with an ice ax" However, a bullet or a scarf in the bathroom will also work. We are "bad guys", so we have to comply.

That is, you think that the statements of the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and all sorts of Kravchuk there are normal. And Volodin has no right to express his opinion?
Excuse me, who are you?
You changed your shoes somehow quickly ... Did you get stuck on your account? Don't blame me, but the impression

[210ox]

What these madmen say is all about the activities of our respective bodies. And Volodinum-like should have been spoken from the rostrum of the State Duma. This is a serious statement, although I consider it unwise. And who am I? Yes, an ordinary worker at the Kuban plant. About "the account got stuck" did not understand at all About pereobulsya .. Yes, I have always been critical of our government.

[mitroha]

For a long time on the site, and I have not seen such posts from you before. Therefore, I doubted.
But I am not an agitator, your worldview, this is your worldview. But in this case, I disagree with him. Again, my opinion

[sleeve]

Well, you can't tell everything from the podium. Otherwise, the stand-up will work. There are other "tribunes" as well. Here is one of them. Well, with the demand, it's okay. And don't give a damn about legitimacy. We will have to sit.

[Hlavaty]

Quote: Mitroha

That is, you think that the statements of the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and all sorts of Kravchuk there are normal. And Volodin has no right to express his opinion?

If you put on the same level the speaker of the State Duma and "the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and all sorts of Kravchuk", then you are some kind of strange patriot.
As a child, we were told that the "good" should be taller and wiser than the "bad."
And if they are all the same, how do you know which one is "good"?

[zloybond]

This cry of Yaroslavna from the podium is already fed up. If we are at war with Ukraine, we will turn off the sale of electricity, fuel, and paper to them. Stop all trade. Bomb the gang bats. If we are not at war, then there is nothing to whine. But people are dying there - and these are all muttering to themselves about this and that. And they do not forget to earn money.

[knn54]

-The policy of the official Kiev in the Donbass may end with a tribunal for him.
“And who are the judges? .. Their enmity is irreconcilable to a free life.” (A. Griboyedov).

[GYGOLA]

Quote: tralflot1832

Is it weak from the rostrum of the State Duma?

And from the rostrum of the State Duma, Tereshkova can come out and offer to reset to zero. Well, or read what needs to be voiced. I'm not against zeroing. But the methods ... are alarming.

[Overlock]

Quote: tralflot1832

Is it weak from the rostrum of the State Duma? Or at least for a journalist or some newspaper to repeat these words.

What's the point?

[Monster_Fat]

Another concussion of the air - "nothing". There is also "Zakharova on Twitter" - also "nothing". "About what" there was only one time - when the Duma gave the President expanded powers for the introduction of troops, and then .... and then (after the Swiss "landing"), withdrew them back. ...

[210ox]

This is a speech at a government agency. And in the telegram channel, this is a personal opinion, and a very stupid one. I have spoken above.

[Olfred]

Yes, what a year has been empty chatter, and people continue to die. Here you have to take a tough stance, sit down at the negotiating table so that the Americans piss off ... Well, what am I doing, I am dreaming. Our snail, ugh, damn it - Elitka's interests end only with bobbing up the dough and taking it out of the cordon, closer to their children, why do they need ordinary people ...

[Hlavaty]

Quote: OlfRed

Here you have to take a tough stance, sit down at the negotiating table so that the Americans get off ...

Well, you give! How can the Russian elite take a tough stance against whoever holds them by the wallet? The wallet is their weak and sore spot!

[rocket757]

Speaker of the State Duma of the Russian Federation: The policy of official Kiev in Donbass may end with a tribunal for him

Yes, yes, I would add more, about the international tribunal, condemnation by the international community ...
Blessed is he who believes .... however, what else can the same talkers say, like everyone like them EVERYWHERE!
There is a "giraffe", it is big and ... big, in short. It's up to him ... and the rest either clap or grumble on the sidelines.

[210ox]

I don’t understand for whom he said this? For Banderlog? So to them his words are like a brake light to a hare. For our ears? So this is sheer mockery. Everyone knows which side this "tribunal" will take. For myself, I probably mumbled.

[vik669]

But why complicate it so much, then a special troika for Banderlog will be enough.

[210ox]

Who will give the command to create this troika?

[Xnumx vis]

The time will come .. The time of war .. ( I do not want ! ) then we will look at troikas and tribunals. If we stay alive! It will be a different time, and different laws .. The laws of war and the laws of the Winner. There is no doubt that Russia will win.

[rocket757]

Shows activity, like many before him, as many will do after him .... psisa chatterbox is different .... in short, the "distinctive" psisa.

[Overlock]

Quote: 210ox

for whom did he say this? For Banderlog?

For Putin, moral support. It happens to him so often

[cniza]

And I think that the court will be, what? most likely specially created for the former Ukraine ...

[Clear]

Quote: cniza

And I think that the court will be, what? most likely specially created for the former Ukraine ...

And it is necessary to create this court in Donbass.

[cniza]

I would say this - it will be created by Donbass, and a place will be found, it is possible that in Kiev ...

[Cat]

And it is necessary to create this court in Donbass.

Or take the Hague Or Nuremberg - and arrange an encore.

[210ox]

Do you all hope that this territorial misunderstanding will disappear? I also hoped about five years ago. As long as we exist, Russia, this balogan will continue. For this is how the impudent Saxons should. They cannot do without small critters on a leash.

[rocket757]

We can, the question is WHEN?

[210ox]

Another question is why is this tribunal, troika or firing squad still out of work?

[rocket757]

So it seems that there is only one "giraffe", but it is problematic to ask him a question .... he is very high.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

We can, the question is WHEN?

Good question and no answer yet ...

[rocket757]

We have a whole lot of questions .... because no one is in a hurry to answer from there.

[Cat]

The support of the West was clearly demonstrated by the war of the "three eights". I don’t think that since then something has changed for the better (for Ukraine) side. , however, as well as the speed of harnessing in the RF.
As for Volodin: why in the Cart, and not from the Duma rostrum? I would have posted it in a tick-tock ...

[Gardamir]

war of three eights

Do you think the Kremlin is harnessing the Donbass? At one time, the bra stopped the North Wind. Armenia, of course, did not recognize Artsakh, but Russia also stands on the sidelines of Novorossia. Moreover, Turkey is an ally or partner of Ukraine.

[Flooding]

Quote: Gardamir

Moreover, Turkey is an ally or partner of Ukraine.

How about an ally? When did you have time?
Where did it happen?
Partnership is another matter.
This is more serious.
China was also a partner.

[Cat]

Moreover, Turkey is an ally or partner of Ukraine.

And what about Turkey? She is interested in Crimea, not Donbass.

[210ox]

And not only. But also engines for tanks and aircraft

[Cat]

engines for tanks and aviation

Come on, what kind of Ukrainian tank or aircraft engines cannot be bought for money?

[210ox]

Money can buy everything. Even some people trade in conscience. I said that Turkey wants from Ukraine.

[Gardamir]

She is interested in Crimea, not Donbass.

Everyone understands perfectly well that the uprising in Donbass was organized in order to draw Kiev's attention away from Crimea. Imagine for a second Turkey will help Kiev in the fight against Donbass. Then the West and Kiev and others will take care of Crimea, and in order to prevent this, it is necessary ... and not cry about the tribunal.

[svp67]

Quote: Gardamir

Everyone understands perfectly well that the uprising in Donbass was organized in order to draw Kiev's attention away from Crimea.

I'm afraid you are wrong here. The plans were much more ambitious. You did not ask yourself why Strelkov appeared in Slavyansk, and not in other settlements of the same Donbass. Why was he not forgiven for his abandonment and what is happening there now, in Ukraine?

[210ox]

Yes, this is a very interesting version. But then he, Strelkov was not supported. Were you euphoric about the events in Zhdanov and Kharkov? Which, too, were quickly blown away.

[Stas157]

Quote: svp67

Why was he not forgiven for his abandonment

Who has not forgiven? Propagandists?

He was in a hopeless position. He essentially jumped out of the mousetrap, leaving Slavyansk. And our would-be propagandists offered to stay and burn in the cauldron.

[Cat]

Everyone understands perfectly well that the uprising in Donbass was organized in order to draw Kiev's attention away from Crimea.

Following your logic, the Maidan was organized in order to chop off Crimea from Ukraine, and Donbass turned out to be a bonus

[Maikcg]

Moreover, the first Maidan, then to organize the president-rag, then to organize the second Maidan with him. Multi-way in one word. The transfer of Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR, by the way, was also organized so that in the future Putin could mortally offend the Ukrainian nation.

[Gardamir]

Following your logic

each has its own logic. The agreements on the transfer of Crimea were conducted long before the Maidan. And remember, or at least go to Vika and Petya. How quickly the referendum went and so on. But such events do not happen in one day. It is necessary to print voting papers and deliver them to the place. Time and money are needed. So the Maidan was not organized, but all opportunities were used. well, somewhere in advance set up.
And Donbass is not a bonus, when, in joy in the Kremlin, the heads started spinning, a bra arrived and shook his finger. immediately in a jump, they began to tell us. that voting in Donbass is not at all like voting in Crimea, letters are different.

[Overlock]

Quote: Gato

and the Maidan was organized in order to chop off Crimea from Ukraine

I will not say for the entire Maidan, then Tyagnibok with his madmen, and Yarosh could well have worked with someone else's supply.

[New Year day]

Quote: Gardamir

Everyone understands perfectly well that the uprising in Donbass was organized in order to draw Kiev's attention away from Crimea.

There is such a version, although Strelkov claims that this is his personal initiative.

[Overlock]

Quote: Gato

She is interested in Crimea, not Donbass.

The key to Crimea is in Donbass. If it works out with Donbass, what prevents them from repeating it with Crimea?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Gato

And what about Turkey? She is interested in Crimea, not Donbass.

Turkey's Donbass is "drummed" in contrast to the Crimea.
Crimea, on the other hand, does not shine for her to fuck from Russia, and from Ukraine - the chances (taking into account NATO and the potential NATO of Ukraine) are ghostly glimmering. So, I think that Turkey will fit into the Donbass-Crimean adventure. It is worth keeping your ears open.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

So, I think that Turkey will fit into the Donbass-Crimean adventure. It is worth keeping your ears open.

Erdogan is not stupid, unlike many. Trade. Yes! Military equipment. Yes! shlomidoro tomatoes .. Yes! the Turks will not go to war .. Why do they need it ... Crimea Tatars .. Yes, they need them for a hundred years .. They have enough of them ..

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Gato

As for Volodin: why in the Cart, and not from the Duma rostrum? I would have posted it in a tick-tock ...

Yes, he does not care from which platform to scatter words, all the same they will not ask him. How will The Hague fit into the "tribunal ukrosudilische" if all the criminal actions taking place in Ukraine were initiated by the US and the EU? In order to hold the tribunal in The Hague, it is necessary to put the whole of Europe with this Hague in the "correct" position, and bring the mattresses into a sane state, which cannot be done without a war, and, importantly, come out of it as a winner. Of course, a tribunal over the ukrohunta is needed, but not in The Hague, which is indicative of the mess with the trial of Slobodan Milosevic.

[210ox]

Yes, the Hague Tribunal has been dissolved for two years already.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: 210ox

Yes, the Hague Tribunal has been dissolved for two years already.

Volodin doesn't care, he wants a tribunal in The Hague.

Volodin believes that this could end very badly for the Ukrainian leadership itself and bring it to the dock of the Hague Tribunal.

[Overlock]

Quote: Gato

The support of the West was clearly demonstrated by the war of the "three eights". I don’t think that since then something has changed for the better (for Ukraine) side.

Much has changed: the weight of Russia in the world, the attitude towards Putin on the part of the heads of state, and for Ukraine, it was appointed for slaughter, ramming against Russia. They will give you the necessary and into battle, they are disposable anyway, why overpay?

[Black lotos]

Quote: Gato

As for Volodin: why in the Cart, and not from the Duma rostrum? I would have posted it in a tick-tock.

because he violates the Yarovaya law and is subject to blocking according to the decision of the Tagansky court.
The great and terrible Roskomnadzor was never able to block, let alone the cart itself, even the officials who write there, despite the fact that it "violates" their own adopted laws.
Although what am I talking about. He is a patriot of the Russian Federation, but Durov is not. He can, but Durov does not have to change the functionality of the cart.
Why do officials use an essentially banned messenger? He also violated Yarova's law.
Volodin, as an official, rests solely on "trust" as he repeatedly confirms with flattering speeches to his employer.

[ximkim]

Indeed, Europe will not approve of the war unleashed by Kiev near the EU borders.

Now Kiev is close to the border, but not Europe.
If they did not approve, there would be no formats, lines of demarcation, missions of the OSCE.
Judging by the latest events, Brussels is not going to throw the "shield of Europe".

[Olkhovsky]

Who is this Volodin anyway?
Talking head, no more.

[Clear]

Quote: Olkhovsky

Who is this Volodin anyway?
Talking head, no more.

Russian politician. Chairman of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation since October 5, 2016. Member of the State Council of the Russian Federation since December 21, 2020
Ah, Nancy Pelosi - the very "oratory"

[Flooding]

clear from Yasnaya))

[210ox]

But still. Why shouldn't this political husband declare this from the high Duma rostrum? Maybe the weekend is to blame? So why such loud phrases to some telegram channel?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Clear

Quote: Olkhovsky
Who is this Volodin anyway?
Talking head, no more.

Russian politician. Chairman of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation since October 5, 2016. Member of the State Council of the Russian Federation since December 21, 2020

This looks especially interesting given his close ties with the HSE liberalismus.

[Alexander 3]

Hodges repeated Joe Biden's insult to the Russian president. Who is Hodges? Vagino-American is not to offend him on the basis of gender.

[Sergej1972]

He is Albanian American.

[Sergej1972]

And the cons for what? This is a reliable fact.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

The Kingdom of heaven ...

[New Year day]

From this thought alone, it distorts everything - what are the children to blame? There are already more than 100 dead, for whom childhood ended before it even began. And this is the fault of the adults.

[From Tomsk]

Volodin, as an illiterate and not too curious person, is not aware that there is only one international legal forum, which is called the Hague Tribunal. It was created by the UN Security Council and its jurisdiction applies exclusively to the events in the former Yugoslavia. So in his dreams, he can judge Zelensky even in the Jedi Council.

[Avior]

there is only one international legal forum called the Hague Tribunal. It was created by the UN Security Council and its jurisdiction applies exclusively to the events in the former Yugoslavia.

Moreover

On December 21, 2017, the Tribunal announced the termination of its activities

[Malyuta]

Quote: From Tomsk

Volodin, as an illiterate and not too curious person, is not aware that there is only one international legal forum, which is called the Hague Tribunal. It was created by the UN Security Council and its jurisdiction applies exclusively to the events in the former Yugoslavia. So in his dreams, he can judge Zelensky even in the Jedi Council.

I am very sorry, but he is a typical representative of the current government.

[hydro]

Volodin believes that this could end very badly for the Ukrainian leadership itself and bring it to the dock of the Hague Tribunal. And you can UPON IT ??) Tell the guys who holds the Hague Tribunal)))))))))))

[ANB]

... Volodin believes that this could end very badly for the Ukrainian leadership itself and bring it to the dock of the Hague Tribunal

Regardless of Volodin's personality. Where is the word "The Hague" in his words?
The tribunal may be Donetsk.

[Avior]

this is to the author of the article on VO.

Volodin believes that this could end very badly for the Ukrainian leadership itself and bring it to the dock of the Hague Tribunal.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: ANB

Regardless of Volodin's personality. Where is the word "The Hague" in his words?

Volodin believes that this could end very badly for the Ukrainian leadership itself and bring it to the dock of the Hague Tribunal.

[ANB]

Colleagues, deep apologies.
2 paragraphs without "Hague", and the third I read inattentively.

[taiga2018]

Well, what, not only Ukrainian politicians amuse us, even if ours amuse the local population with such idiotic statements ...

[Overlock]

Quote: taiga2018

and what, not only Ukrainian politicians amuse us, even if ours amuse the local population with such idiotic statements ...

Honestly, the situation is such that there is no time for fun. Approaching the Cuban Missile Crisis-2

[The popuas]

At our factory, gas masks began to be issued .. why would it be?

[cniza]

If the radical Ukrainian politicians believe that they can get away with everything they do in the LPR and DPR, then this is not so.

They hope that the United States will cover and protect them, let them search history for what the United States is doing ...

[Clear]

Quote: cniza

If the radical Ukrainian politicians believe that they can get away with everything they do in the LPR and DPR, then this is not so.

They hope that the United States will cover and protect them, let them search history for what the United States is doing ...

They are looking where it suits them.

[New Year day]

Quote: cniza

The United States will cover and protect them, let them search history for how the United States does ...

The USA benefits from the fact that the more Russians kill Ukrainians and vice versa, the better for them. The stronger the enmity and the chasm between states will be, the more successful the US anti-Russian work in Ukraine will be.

[cniza]

This is exactly what they are doing, I must say that they have been very successful so far ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: From Tomsk

Volodin, as an illiterate and not too curious person, is not aware that there is only one international legal forum, which is called the Hague Tribunal. It was created by the UN Security Council and its jurisdiction applies exclusively to the events in the former Yugoslavia. So in his dreams, he can judge Zelensky even in the Jedi Council.

Partisan Zely Look at the sleeping cell, we'll find Sudoplatov

[Gardamir]

find Sudoplatov

There will be no Sudoplatov. nor Stalin,

And ours will not come ... Such is the time now -
Today is not the same year, the war is not at all the same.
No one hears a voice calling out in the wilderness.
Yes, and there is no desert - sheer emptiness.

And in this emptiness the road will be long -
Long paths have ended.
Stalingrad will not break out, and there is land beyond the Volga ...
But ours will not come. Where do they come from?

Nobody will bring out "For the Motherland!" on bombs
No one wheezes: "Give the country coal!"
There are drafts in the Odessa catacombs,
The mausoleum under the walls of the Kremlin is shuttered.

The political instructor will not get up, will not poke a gun into the sky,
The trumpet will not call for heroism and labor.
Kohl gave themselves to comfort for need,
It's time to understand that ours won't come!

So let's drink a glass of Russian vodka to our grandfathers
And again on the Internet - to hone minds,
Hanging flags, tearing each other's throats.
And ours will not come ... All ours are us.

[Glory to Berkut]

Here the question arises about the definition of "our" in the poem.
Ours came to us in Crimea in 2014. And they closed the local residents from the Armed Forces, who were already preparing to go out, inflict freedom and inflict democracy. Our people did not abandon them when the electricity was cut to us (I remember the years when in the Crimea in the winter they gave electricity for 2-3 hours a day). Ours ... yes, our people have done and are doing a lot.
Let's remember the amazing boilers in Donbass. I do not doubt the courage, bravery and dedication of the LPR volunteers, but in order to rip up the regular units, specialized knowledge, weapons and supplies are also needed. Did God help or did ours come?
And if you open your eyes and shake your head, you can conclude that ours are preparing for something very serious. Seriously preparing. Ours will come. And not ours will be sad

[Gennady Fomkin]

What are the Minsk agreements
The Minsk Agreements are a package of documents adopted in 2014-2015 to resolve the situation in the south-east of Ukraine:

The Minsk Protocol (full name - "Protocol following the consultations of the Trilateral Contact Group on joint steps aimed at implementing the peace plan of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and the initiatives of Russian President Vladimir Putin") was signed on September 5, 2014 in the capital of Belarus by members of the contact group, as well as the heads of the DPR and LPR;
A set of measures for the implementation of the Minsk agreements (the so-called "Minsk-2"), agreed in Minsk on February 12, 2015 by the leaders of Germany, Russia, France and Ukraine at the summit in the "Normandy format" and signed by the contact group on resolving the situation in Ukraine and the heads of the proclaimed republics.
Russia is the guarantor of the Minsk agreements. As you remember, the Minsk agreements were approved by the UN Security Council.

We have a powerful international document not only justifying our massive strike against Bandera, but ordering us to do this as a guarantor of the Minsk agreements.

[New Year day]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

The Minsk agreements were approved by the UN Security Council.

so, what is next? They have not been fulfilled and will never be fulfilled, be realistic.
And there is another UN decision: the UN General Assembly Resolution A / RES / 68/262 on the territorial integrity of Ukraine, adopted on March 27, 2014 as a result of an open vote at the 80th plenary meeting of the 68th session of the UN General Assembly. Like it or not, but LDNR is the territory of Ukraine

[Serval]

LDNR - the territory of Ukraine

A strange statement. Not a single state has yet recognized that the LDNR is the territory of Ukraine. And Ukraine itself does not recognize this.

[New Year day]

Quote: SerVal

A strange statement. Not a single state has yet recognized that the LDNR is the territory of Ukraine. And Ukraine itself does not recognize this.

Have you fallen from the moon?

[Avior]

And what, someone admitted the opposite?

President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, President of the French Republic Francois Hollande and Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany Angela Merkel confirm full respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine. They are firmly convinced that there is no alternative to an exclusively peaceful settlement. They are fully prepared to take any possible measures both individually and jointly for these purposes.

[Avior]

Russia is the guarantor of the Minsk agreements.

Where did you find this in the Minsk Agreements?
Can you quote where this is written?

[Karabin]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

We have a powerful international document not only justifying our massive strike against Bandera, but ordering us to do this as a guarantor of the Minsk agreements.

There would be Will and Strength - in any document one can find a justification for any action. The weak-willed and powerless, just as in any document, he will find an excuse for his inaction and betrayal.

[petrol cutter]

"The State Duma of the Russian Federation believes that such a policy of Kiev may end up in a tribunal for it."
It may end, it may not end ...
Which tribunal will consider such a policy?
What was our comrade hinting at?
If what I think about ... Then this is one thing.
If, about some abstract tribunals ...
That, it's about nothing ...

[iouris]

Speaker's words are cast in bronze. Bronze is a heavy metal.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Gardamir

find Sudoplatov

There will be no Sudoplatov. nor Stalin,

And ours will not come ... Such is the time now -
Today is not the same year, the war is not at all the same.
No one hears a voice calling out in the wilderness.
Yes, and there is no desert - sheer emptiness.

And in this emptiness the road will be long -
Long paths have ended.
Stalingrad will not break out, and there is land beyond the Volga ...
But ours will not come. Where do they come from?

Nobody will bring out "For the Motherland!" on bombs
No one wheezes: "Give the country coal!"
There are drafts in the Odessa catacombs,
The mausoleum under the walls of the Kremlin is shuttered.

The political instructor will not get up, will not poke a gun into the sky,
The trumpet will not call for heroism and labor.
Kohl gave themselves to comfort for need,
It's time to understand that ours won't come!

So let's drink a glass of Russian vodka to our grandfathers
And again on the Internet - to hone minds,
Hanging flags, tearing each other's throats.
And ours will not come ... All ours are us.

Mil cholovik, have you read the Minsk agreements? BO ...... BOO ... BO. Will you surrender yourself or will they bring you?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Minsk ones are consecrated in the UN. A clear violation of the Minsk ones presupposes flogging. There are 400k people in the DPR with Russian passports. Threats to life and health involve spanking. Sanctions will be sanctioned regardless of participation / non-participation, if there is no participation - they will compose. "Highley Likely".

Is it all Feng Shui? Or have I got it wrong?

If I didn't get it wrong, the forces of the 20th and 1st tank armies, from the Klintsy, Valuyki areas ... and after 3 days, the Armed Forces of Ukraine ceases to exist as an organized force.

[New Year day]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

forces of the 20th and 1st tank armies, from the areas of Klintsy, Valuyki ... and after 3 days the Armed Forces of Ukraine ceases to exist as an organized force

this means a full-fledged war with IEDs, with Ukraine. But she is on her own territory! I am afraid that this will be called aggression against an independent state, and what it really does not bother anyone.
On the contrary, the more Russian and Ukrainian military dies, the greater the gain for the United States. In any case, the United States is on a horse. China will remain on the sidelines

[Ural resident]

Why again the Hague Tribunal, it's time to do your own. Make it after the liberation in Slavyansk, as a symbol of resistance. And then it will be called according to the normal, otherwise the Hague, The Hague - not even win.

[New Year day]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

Make it after liberation in Slavyansk, as a symbol of resistance

clarify the legal basis for this action

[Ural resident]

Slavyansk as the main media symbol of resistance in 2014, in which the confrontation developed, then brutally cleaned up by Bandera, about 1000 people who helped the militia simply disappeared. Legal - the tribunal does not have to be in Russia. In Ukraine, in a fraternal country that has lived for several years under the junta, organized by the Ukrainians themselves in the city most affected by the repression. And everyone should be judged there, from the top, Turchinov, etc., activists of the National Battalions, commanders who gave the command for shelling, privates burying civilians, as well as foreign instructors and mercenaries who came to "safari" for the Russian people.
If you mean that the tribunal can only be in Europe, excuse me, this is only political will. Any country can organize it anywhere. The same tribunal in The Hague is just an idea of ​​a group of people brought to life.

[petrol cutter]

"clarify the legal basis for this action"
Legal grounds - violated by Ukraine in '14.
Which demolished and tried to kill the legally acting president. Moreover, the one I have chosen as well.
I remember this very well, tk. I was personally present during all this development of events.
This is really a coup d'etat. And a violent change of power.
Since I (then being a full citizen of Ukraine) categorically did not give the go-ahead for such things. And he did not authorize any Maidan.

[New Year day]

Quote: Petrol cutter

Legal grounds - violated by Ukraine in '14.
Which demolished and tried to kill the legally acting president.

So Putin recognized it as legal! Negotiate further

[petrol cutter]

"So Putin recognized it as legal! Talk further"
Duck, I don't give a damn about someone who admitted that.
The main thing is that I got what I wanted.
Capitalizm right now. All around - selfish interests ...
This also applies to the second part of your question.

[New Year day]

Quote: Petrol cutter

... And he did not authorize any Maidan.

So why didn't anyone defend Anti-Maidan? Yanukovych?

[Cat]

clarify the legal basis for this action

Easy: Vae victis. This principle was applied at least twice by highly respected Europeans - Brenn and Napoleon. Within the framework of the case law so beloved by the Anglo-Saxons, it is quite a legal basis. It remains only to decide on the defeated

[svoit]

As the saying goes "p ... do not carry bags", I didn’t notice that many ukrovoyaks would be brought to justice, although it seems they were collecting evidence of guilt, but things are still there.
And if they were involved (like Savchenko), then they were quickly released, the work of Ukraine against the militias and Russia is much more effective.

[Avior]

Volodin believes that this could end very badly for the Ukrainian leadership itself and bring it to the dock of the Hague Tribunal.

It is sad that a person in such a respectable position is not aware that there is no Hague Tribunal. This can be heard from an anonymous author on the Internet, but from the speaker of the State Duma of the Russian Federation it is more than strange to hear this.
The Hague has the International Court of Justice and the International Criminal Court.
Both of them are considering cases in the lawsuit of Ukraine against Russia.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Иск_Украины_против_России_в_Международный_суд_ООН
and on the commission of crimes on the territory of Crimea and Donbass, and on the latter they concern all parties to the conflict.

The International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague has completed a preliminary study of events related to the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine and intends to investigate alleged war crimes. “There is good reason” to believe that “a wide range of acts of war crimes and crimes against humanity that fall within the jurisdiction of the court have been committed in the region,” said ICC prosecutor Fatou Bensuda in a statement released Friday, 11 December.

The case indicated by Volodin should be considered by the International Criminal Court, therefore it is there that the evidence must be transferred.

[New Year day]

Honestly, Volodin even reluctant to comment on verbiage. Especially about the international tribunal.
I will explain:
1. The territory of the LDNR belongs to Ukraine, as the UN, the EU and Putin have repeatedly stated. Just like Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan. There were no gestures from the UN and the international community against Azerbaijan's operation in Karabakh and could not have been - he acted on his territory.
2. Under Ukrainian law, all residents of the LPR and Crimea are citizens of Ukraine, even if they have any other passports. 600 thousand issued Russian passports in Donbass in this canvas mean nothing either for Ukraine or for the UN
3. In light of the above, any operation of Ukraine in the Donbass and Crimea, from the point of view of the UN, is its purely domestic problem.
4. The world press is strenuously preparing an opinion in this vein, accusing Russia of all sins.
5. From the point of view of international law, Ukraine has every right to invite troops of any states to its territory - by analogy, Assad invited Russia. And this is also in line with international law. And they have already been invited: in Mariupol, English is spoken more often than Ukrainian or Russian.
6. For the Russian authorities, any action / inaction means loss.
In case of action: only the direct entry of Russian troops into the territory of the LPNR (read Ukraine) can save the situation. But, even without the advance of troops beyond the line of demarcation in the eyes of the world community, this will be aggression. Hence, all the worst for the country: sanctions and international isolation, attempts to withdraw from the UN Security Council, human and financial losses due to the war and the resulting internal political and economic crisis. In this situation, one should not count on the support of China and Belarus or Venezuela.
In case of inaction: Ukraine will simply clean up the territory, expelling all pro-Russian-minded people to the border (at best). 600 thousand people received a Russian passport, and 3 million 100 thousand - with Ukrainian ones. The flow of refugees will rush to the territory of Russia with all the ensuing consequences (it is worth recalling the flow of refugees from Syria to Europe). Russia gets an internal political crisis, Ukraine's appetite flares up and it looks towards Crimea.
So what international tribunal is Volodin talking about! It will not be due to the reasons described.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Silvestr

Honestly, Volodin even reluctant to comment on verbiage. Especially about the international tribunal.

Totally agree!

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Silvestr

the reasons described.

And therefore, it was necessary as early as 14 to put President Yanukovych on a tank and send him to Kiev to suppress the Nazi coup. Well, help the trosh ... And there would not have been so much blood shed during these 7 years.

[New Year day]

Quote from Uncle Lee

And therefore, it was necessary as early as 14 to put President Yanukovych on

Speak right
Now we jump into the last car of the departing train

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Silvestr

Now let's jump

Comrad So you can fall! And it will be very painful ...

[opuonmed]

as the current Ukrainians move to the DPR and LPR so immediately go to the statehood

[Karabin]

so immediately go to the statehood

Why would they suddenly? They will not move to Rublyovka.

[opuonmed]

Quote: Karabin

so immediately go to the statehood

Why would they suddenly? They will not move to Rublyovka.

see if the leader of the Russian Federation lied!

[New Year day]

Quote: opuonmed

see if the leader of the Russian Federation lied

give examples when he did not lie

[Ros 56]

We have been hearing this for seven years, and things are still there.

[Karabin]

Speaker of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Vyacheslav Volodin wrote about this in his Telegram channel.

This was the reaction of the Russian politician to the death of a five-year-old child as a result of a drone hit by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the outskirts of Donetsk.

Well, what. A worthy reaction from the head of the supposedly parliament of a supposedly great power.
I also remember the reaction to the events of Donetsk in 2014 of another worthy state husband.

[Vadim237]

Yes, at the beginning of April 2014, Putin leaked the opportunity to prevent hostilities in Donbass - and after all, he could have sent troops in the Crimea within two days and indicated his full presence thereby cooling the hot maydan heads in Kiev.

[demo]

Incitement by the Ukrainian authorities of military action against the inhabitants of the LPR and DPR is unacceptable and will not go unpunished. The State Duma of the Russian Federation believes that such a policy of Kiev may end in a tribunal for it.
With the current leaders of our country, such a development of the situation is impossible.
And they know it in Kiev.
This could have been blasted out in '14. When there was a "boiler" in Ilovaisk. When Ukraine rushed from side to side. When the putschists were in power.
And now? The moment was missed.
And Volodin would be better off keeping quiet, supplying palm oil and praying to God that the patron would stay in power.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

forces of the 20th and 1st tank armies, from the areas of Klintsy, Valuyki ... and after 3 days the Armed Forces of Ukraine ceases to exist as an organized force

this means a full-fledged war with IEDs, with Ukraine. But she is on her own territory! I am afraid that this will be called aggression against an independent state, and what it really does not bother anyone.
On the contrary, the more Russian and Ukrainian military dies, the greater the gain for the United States. In any case, the United States is on a horse. China will remain on the sidelines

Strategize Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow Sitting on the couch, work out further. You are already sitting in the General Staff, you have trolled

[New Year day]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Strategize

You need to think with your head

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Sitting on the couch, work out further

Everything has already been developed

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow

Nobody, but what will be shitty is understandable even for a hedgehog

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: opuonmed

as the current Ukrainians move to the DPR and LPR so immediately go to the statehood

Garny lad, well done, catch a cookie

[Klingon]

Well, well, we have already seen what the Hague court is capable of. This is a creepy office of the EU, what is this "speaker" hoping for ??

[faterdom]

If words can still prevent something, let the Volodins and the Mothers speak, let the Zhirinovskys howl ...
Everyone slept and puffed, under the pressure of "negotiating nadot", and the Russian soldier will pay in blood, not Deripaska, and even more so not United Russia.
Order will, of course, be restored, everyone who did not run away to Pennsylvania will not be built on a wooden platform right in lace panties, but, I repeat, this is only the blood and sweat of a Russian soldier can be obtained, and not through the efforts of clever minnows with caviar in London and Nice ... Unfortunately.

[Kronos]

There will be no, even in Georgia they did not judge anything and nobody.

[storm]

Oh, those storytellers ...
Behind the Kremlin wall, they are all heroes (:

[Knell wardenheart]

Every time I hear some kind of speech of this man, he is always in a hurry to jail or punish someone, he has something like a fetish .. The only exception was that memorable speech in which he publicly designated "the main property of Russia." In principle, after this speech, further ones could not have been listened to.

[Black lotos]

He did not regret precious time, went to the channel and read it.
Claymit the damned West, praises Putin, is a portrait of a true modern patriot.

Vladimir Putin is our President. Attacks on him are attacks on our country!

(taken from his channel)
started a channel on a messenger, the blocking of which was approved by the courts of the Russian Federation for violation of the Yarovaya law, which this man supported.
However, how does he differ from other "twitter diplomats" of the same Zakharova?
It's just that it is convenient to write on the net, you are not responsible for anything. Unlike ordinary people, who are imprisoned for repost. They are officials outside the law. Which themselves make laws and do not fall under their influence.
This is how I regard this official's Telegram channel.

[CYM]

In general, our rulers have once again expressed concern (with their foreign assets). In general, nothing that the non-brothers officially declared that they were in a state of actual war with Russia. https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5dc9c1299a7947832a04fc53 IMHO Maybe you should answer with something tactical (without a charge to begin with) on the Independence Square, say. Otherwise, it may become fashionable to "fight" the nuclear powers without consequences.

[TatarinSSSR]

Silly populist statement. The court in The Hague is pro-Western. And it will not do anything against the will of the West.

[Mr.dimadroll]

Children should not pay with their lives, for the "games" of adults ... how to live with such a burden on their conscience? Bastards ...

[Evil 55]

I wonder what would have happened if that year, in 1948, some equally unreasonable cry had publicly called Comrade I. Stalin with the same epithet ..

[tolmachiev51]

As for the tribunal, it is true, only those who betrayed the DPR and LPR should be tried, because apart from idle talk, nothing more !!! Are you afraid of sanctions, so they will come up with another Pupkin for you or there is no money !? The FSB team, those guys will find the annual budget of the Russian Federation in a month, this is not Siluanov and company, three four governors and generals from the Ministry of Internal Affairs in jail and the question will be closed.

[Radius]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Of course, a tribunal over the ukrohunta is needed, but not in The Hague, which is indicative of the mess with the trial of Slobodan Milosevic.

Why in The Hague? Isn't there a suitable House of Culture in the south of Russia, wherever in the regional center?

[Roman070280]

Let Volodin worry that the tribunal might come for him ...
In any case, specifically, I am more concerned about the actions of OUR politicians and thieves than Ukrainian ones.
Well, life is like that .. they don’t sit there forever ..

[Goldmitro]

The State Duma of the Russian Federation believes that such a policy of Kiev may end with a tribunal for it.

Some kind of childish babble! Do they seriously believe that the Hague Tribunal, and all other international institutions, which, as the events of recent decades have repeatedly shown, under the control of the West, will judge Kiev politicians, especially in the light of the fierce attack launched by it on Russia on all fronts? What naivety!

[hohohol]

Who are the judges?

[Alex Nevs]

What is such a tribunal? Not with Yugoslavia ... not with Libya ...? Late. There must be a Tribunal. Only YOURS! .... otherwise we will reach a general sex change ... yes, several times. For not ... listen to various non-traditional ... (here only the Russian word is suitable).

[Graduate student]

Official Kiev's policy in Donbass may end in a tribunal for him

It is high time to arrange a tribunal over the Kiev authorities.