The Union of Volunteers of Donbass called the timing of the start of hostilities on the contact line

An escalation of hostilities in the territory of Donbass can be expected at the end of April, Ukraine continues to pull weapons and equipment to the line of demarcation. This was stated by the former chairman of the Council of Ministers of the DPR, the head of the Union of Donbass Volunteers, Alexander Borodai.

According to Borodai, Kiev is creating a "substantial grouping" in the Donbas, continuing to draw troops to the borders of the republics. The whole question is whether the war will start in the near future and whether Russia will provide assistance in the event of an attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

An escalation of hostilities can be expected from the end of April. There are two options: Russia will not provide assistance or will come to the rescue

- said Borodai.

He stressed that if Russia does not provide assistance, it will be difficult for the republics to conduct prolonged military operations with superior enemy forces. In case of assistance, Ukraine will be defeated.

If she provides this assistance (which would be logical and correct, because a significant number of Donbass residents are citizens of Russia), then Ukraine will face inevitable defeat.

- he added.

In turn, the DPR believes that the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will begin before May 2, a blow will be delivered directly to Donetsk and Horlivka in order to capture cities.

Will there be large-scale actions? I think there may be. If we were waiting for the Ukrainian offensive in the southern part of the DPR and in the northern part (to cut off Gorlovka from Donetsk), now, in the event of large-scale offensives, the blow will be delivered directly to Donetsk. And what happened yesterday was reconnaissance in force

- said the first deputy minister of information of the DPR Daniil Bezsonov.

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[210ox]

Who knows. In the event of the outbreak of hostilities, much blood will be shed. Now it is impossible not to take into account the clearly strengthened Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

It was impossible to release them from the boilers. Played out, in "humanity".

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

It was impossible to release them from the boilers. Played out, in "humanity".

It was impossible to leave Ukraine to its own devices in 2014.
Then it was possible to solve everything with little blood and not very big money.
Most of the Ukrainian generals were ready to serve in the RF Armed Forces in equivalent positions. They would serve until retirement in the Kiev military district.
The die-hard would go to their well-deserved retirement immediately.
The sanctions would be the same, but rather in a heavily curtailed version, since Europeans initially worried not about Ukraine, but about where Russia would stop.
And what we have now fully coincides with Glazyev's 2014 forecast.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

First, Ukrainians would blame Russia for the rest of their lives for not giving them the opportunity to "make the European choice." Secondly, in order to receive a seniority pension in the RF Armed Forces, you must at least serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and pay taxes.
Most of the Ukrainian military have already made their choice and went to serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Thirdly, today's Ukraine is a wild field, with a plundered economy, without social guarantees for the population. Who and at whose expense will pay pensions, the benefits of 30 million citizens of whom half have no work and no sources of income at all? I am not yet listing the cost of repairing transport, infrastructure, ports, railways and highways, repairing schools, hospitals, etc. There is more than one Crimean bridge for you. There are hundreds of Crimean Bridges.
Let me explain it easier: you are offering to buy an old rusty "Zaporozhets" at the price of a "Mercedes". Invest a lot of money in it and then, a cunning chubby guy will come running and say that the deal is canceled. He changed his mind.
And most importantly: The struggle against the OUN in Western Ukraine continued almost until 1960. Considering the psychology and upbringing of the new two generations of Ukrainians, ALL Ukraine is sick with the OUN ideology. After what I have summarized, are YOU sure that Ukraine in its current state and with its current ideology is necessary? And how, in this case, this "reunification" will be reflected in the standard of living of ordinary citizens of our country? ..
I understand. It's a pity .. But you can't serve two gods.

[210ox]

I understand that you can not notice what is happening in this area. You can try to talk to the deaf-blind. You can wait and hope that they will correct me, choose another leader, but nothing good is foreseen there. Even for the foreseeable future. You can even turn a blind eye to the death of people (over there a child died in Donetsk). But this will only cause bitterness towards the authorities, losses in the economy and many destructive things. And why should we rebuild the infrastructure? Don't have your hands?

[ANB]

... And why should we rebuild the infrastructure? Don't have your hands?

It doesn't matter who exactly will restore. It is important who will pay for it. Ukraine has no money anymore.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I do not completely agree with Borodai and do not agree with Bezsonov at all. Why they say exactly what they say, I do not know, perhaps they are deliberately darkening in order to lull the vigilance of the Banderaites.

But I think the APU offensive can begin at any time, regardless of the weather and roads (although, of course, it is better to do blitzkrieg on dry roads).

As for the fact that "the blow will be delivered directly to Donetsk," this, according to most experts, is the least likely option: logically, several strikes should be delivered bypassing large settlements, cutting off the republics from the border, followed by clearing the surrounded territories.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

logically, several strikes should be delivered bypassing large settlements, cutting off the republics from the border

Logically yes. But this logic is contradicted by another, according to which the Banderlogists are afraid to approach the borders of the Russian Federation, as it was already in 2014.

They may try to stir up something with the encirclement of Donetsk, Makeevka, Yasinovataya, Gorlovka, with attempts to storm a distance from the borders, so that in case of something it would be possible to clearly show what they say - "Russia attacked us deep in our territory"

[bayard]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

First, Ukrainians would blame Russia for the rest of their lives for not giving them the opportunity to "make the European choice."

What do you care about these marginals? Which in Ukraine at most 25% will be typed.
75% of the population of Ukraine was waiting for help from Russia and with pleasure would accept the idea of ​​becoming a part of it.

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Secondly, in order to receive a seniority pension in the RF Armed Forces, you must at least serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and pay taxes.

First, they do not pay military taxes. And secondly, they would receive pensions from the pension fund of Ukraine. As part of Russia. The standard of living in Ukraine before the war did not differ much from that of Russia, except for the largest cities ... which are not very much Russia.
And thirdly, it is much cheaper than what Russia received - in terms of sanctions, from the severing of trade and cooperation ties, logistics and direct military expenditures, to cover its borders with Bandera's Ukraine.
The stingy and lazy always pays twice. But Russia pays both three and four times ... and are you really happy with what has happened over the past 7 years?
Instead of becoming stronger, demonstrating the WILL and rallying the former (and not only) fraternal republics around itself into a new Union - the Eurasian ... 3 times ... And came close to a social explosion ...
And this is all a CONSEQUENCE of the manifested WEAKNESS.
And betrayal.
First of all, betrayal of YOUR interests.

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Ukraine is a wild field, with a plundered economy, without social guarantees for the population

In 2014, things were different. Other social guarantees in Russia could be envied.
All the chaos now being created is a consequence of Russia's inaction, when it was NECESSARY to act ... but decided to come to an agreement with the enemy.

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Who and at whose expense will pay pensions, the benefits of 30 million citizens of whom half have no work and no sources of income at all?

Why does it bother you so much?
Pensions are now being paid there, and the state is at the very least, but it exists. What makes you think that someone will take a piece of butter from you?
Ukraine is one of the three leading exporters of grain. There are the richest black soils. And nationalization in favor of the Russian Federation (even for the same debts) of a number of leading enterprises will solve all ... almost all of Russia's problems in aircraft construction, rocketry, ship power plants, steam turbines for nuclear power plants and nuclear icebreakers ... Metallurgy is well developed in Ukraine.
And the problem of Ukraine's external debt is solved even more simply - the recognition of the illegitimate government after the coup and a counterclaim to the Western powers for the (now being carried out) aggression and, in fact, the occupation of Ukraine with the criminal corruption of officials. They also have to turn out to be her.
The Soviet Union had already done so when they began to pester him with tsarist debts.
And immediately peeled off.
And they began to trade.
Any problems are solved if they are solved.
And not to hide "in the house" or "in the bunker".
Russia has lost in aggregate from sanctions, breaking trade and industrial ties, sabotage and lost profits, disrupted programs and forced "import substitution", over these 7 years, at least TRILLION dollars.
Think well over this figure.
Look at your real income today and 7 years ago.
On the purchasing power of the ruble and the average salary of a citizen of Russia.
Do you want to continue this mockery?
Or should this overripe issue be resolved?

[Rushnairfors]

Bayard who told you that the military does not pay taxes?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: bayard

75% of the Ukrainian population expected help from Russia and would gladly accept the idea of ​​becoming a part of it.

In 2014, I talked with the citizens of Odessa ... I was told that they would crawl to Russia ...! The conversation took place a couple of months after the burning of living people in the house of trade unions in Odessa ... They were terribly jealous of Crimea and Sevastopol ... I'm sure now the same sentiments remained ...

[bayard]

Quote: 30 vis

.. I'm sure now the same sentiments remain ...

And not only in Odessa.
And the longer the Kremlin drags on this nightmare, the greater the losses will be borne by the economy and the population of Russia, the greater the blame for betrayal will be on the Kremlin leaders for everything that happens on both sides of the border.
Look what the Enemy wants from Russia in this conflict ... The Enemy wants Russia "NOT TO INTERVE"!
So that she does not interfere in the murders and mockery of the Enemy over the Russian people on the Russian Land!
And such indulgence of the Enemy, Russian people will not forgive the Kremlin.
As if his towers were not pointing fingers at each other for guilt.
And for the undermined defenses.
And for the impoverishment of the population.
And for betraying the interests of Russia.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

First, Ukrainians would blame Russia for the rest of their lives for not giving them the opportunity to "make the European choice." Secondly, in order to receive a seniority pension in the RF Armed Forces, you must at least serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and pay taxes.
Most of the Ukrainian military have already made their choice and went to serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Thirdly, today's Ukraine is a wild field, with a plundered economy, without social guarantees for the population. Who and at whose expense will pay pensions, the benefits of 30 million citizens of whom half have no work and no sources of income at all? I am not yet listing the cost of repairing transport, infrastructure, ports, railways and highways, repairing schools, hospitals, etc. There is more than one Crimean bridge for you. There are hundreds of Crimean Bridges.
Let me explain it easier: you are offering to buy an old rusty "Zaporozhets" at the price of a "Mercedes". Invest a lot of money in it and then, a cunning chubby guy will come running and say that the deal is canceled. He changed his mind.
And most importantly: The struggle against the OUN in Western Ukraine continued almost until 1960. Considering the psychology and upbringing of the new two generations of Ukrainians, ALL Ukraine is sick with the OUN ideology. After what I have summarized, are YOU sure that Ukraine in its current state and with its current ideology is necessary? And how, in this case, this "reunification" will be reflected in the standard of living of ordinary citizens of our country? ..
I understand. It's a pity .. But you can't serve two gods.

[ioan-e]

I give a standing ovation, very sound reasoning!

[businessv]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

You offer to buy an old rusty Zaporozhets at the price of a Mercedes. Invest a lot of money in it and then, a cunning chubby guy will come running and say that the deal is canceled. He changed his mind.

Who offers to buy it ?! It was enough just to pick up the key in due time and everything would be fine!

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

The struggle against the OUN in Western Ukraine continued almost until 1960.

Who stopped it and why did it go on for so long? Read the information, then let's get down to the discussion. The fight was stopped from Moscow and slowed down from there. And the last thing - no one offers to invest millions there! The Square lives today and will continue to live if it does not run into it. The main thing was and will always matter to us, it is not to have an enemy on the western border!

[sextant777]

You talk like the Kremlin's cunning planners. Close their eyes and wait until it dissipates by itself - this is their favorite pastime.

[Sergey Nikiforov]

And where does the information about the plight in Ukraine come from? I keep in touch with my colleagues both in Afghanistan and in further service, many of whom now live in Ukraine I would not say that everything is so bad Watch TV less

[Private89]

Who and at whose expense will pay pensions, benefits of 30 million citizens, half of whom have no work and no sources of income at all? I am not yet listing the cost of repairing transport, infrastructure, ports, railways and highways, repairing schools, hospitals, etc.

If the bourgeois authorities of the Russian Federation do not change the socio-economic policy, which is unlikely, then of course Ukraine will be a burden on the neck, in fact, as now for them, the burden of their own population of our country. I suppose people in the Kremlin do not know and probably cannot imagine that this country can be developed. That you can build schools, hospitals, not for kickbacks, but for people. That medicine should cure people, and not be a means to make a profit, I suspect they do not know the same.

30 million citizens of which half have no work and no sources of income at all

Well, right, it's easier to get migrant workers, move tiles in Moscow.

Yes, if we develop the country 146 million + 30 million from Ukraine will not be enough, because everything will be built and there will not be enough workers.

The volume of the national welfare fund as of 01.01.2021/13,5/XNUMX is XNUMX trillion with this money, you can build a new country if you invest in the development of the country, and not in currency speculation.

[mark1]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Then it was possible to solve everything with little blood and not very big money.

Wouldn't have decided then or today. Ukraine is a battlefield with the West. This is the detonator of global warfare. Or, if (or for now) we successfully twist and avoid - a poisoned thorn in the body of Russia, decomposing the insides and preparing for facilitated digestion. So there are two options here, both dangerous and difficult and inevitable.
But then it was necessary to cut off from the sea.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

But then it was necessary to cut off from the sea.
It's too late ... I should have decided on this earlier. I think that the EU has threatened to take money away from some "close" to the Kremlin ..

[Alex777]

I think that the EU has threatened to take money away from some "close" to the Kremlin ..

Brad.
The offensive was stopped due to the threat of the explosion of 2 nuclear power plants in Ukraine.
Checked, made sure, stopped.
There is nothing to think about. Here you need to know what happened.

[New Year day]

Quote: Alex777

Brad.
The offensive was stopped due to the threat of the explosion of 2 nuclear power plants in Ukraine.

That is why the President of Switzerland Burkhalter came so swiftly and it was after this meeting that the topic of the Russian Spring was removed from the agenda?

[sextant777]

And there is.
The rhetoric of Putin and the entire Russian media space changed dramatically after the arrival in Moscow of a representative from Europe, Buchgelter (I can’t remember exactly his last name).

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I remember how, after the tragedy on the Kursk, a pretty little message went on in the news, they say, the IMF commission came to Moscow regarding debt cancellation. I still thought today would be it, so quickly they arrived and immediately write off the debts, do you want to?
Politics and economics are inseparable things.

[boris epstein]

The commission came because Russia has filming of the work of Norwegian divers on the Kursk, the horizontal rudder of an American submarine lying next to the Kursk and the first three compartments that were broken through. An American submarine and its rescue buoy, lying next to the Kursk, were discovered by Peter the Great. The Americans wrote off Russia's debts through the IMF in order to not disclose the guilt of the American submarine in the Kursk ram.
And then, when the cut-off Kursk was raised and it was in the dock, the rubber of the sheathing on the starboard side, worn out during the ram, was visible.
The French say the same in their dock film "Submarine in troubled waters".

[Insurgent]

Quote: mark1

Ukraine is a battlefield with the West.

One of the most successful British politicians, Henry Temple Palmerston, Secretary of Defense, Foreign Secretary and twice Prime Minister of the British Empire at the height of its power, is widely known mainly for his speech in the British Parliament. There are several versions of this statement, but its essence is the same: “England has neither permanent allies nor permanent enemies. England has only permanent interests "... But he is also the author of another British political aphorism: "How hard it is to live when no one is at war with Russia!"

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: mark1

mark1 Yesterday, 19:02
+5

Quote: Captain Pushkin
Then it was possible to solve everything with little blood and not very big money.

Wouldn't have decided then or today. Ukraine is a battlefield with the West.

If taken in pieces, yes, the problem would not have been solved. If we take it as a whole, the problem is solvable, only political will was needed.
The stake on the division of Ukraine along ethnic lines was initially erroneous and could not lead to anything different from the current result.
Cut off from the sea? If from Azov, then yes. And if also from Cherny, it was necessary to walk to Odessa. In fact, taking the entire left bank of the Dnieper. This still did not solve the problem, it would require the direct intervention of the Russian Federation, and in terms of costs and consequences it would be no less, if not more, than taking it entirely.

[ALARI]

And what to do with the millions of stubborn brainwashed people for whom Russia is the embodiment of evil and all the troubles because of it? We have not yet messed up with the Caucasus, but here there is another 40 mil. half the enemies.

[Alex777]

The West has paid good money for you to think so. They understand very well that if Russia takes Ukraine, the Empire will be restored. And everyone will do to prevent this from happening.
For them it is worse than the collapse of the USSR for us.
https://vz.ru/news/2021/4/2/1092602.html

[New Year day]

Quote: Alex777

They understand very well that if Russia takes Ukraine, the Empire will be restored

"The Grand Chessboard" 1997. Understanding in a quarter of a century!

[ALARI]

Well, it's a mess in your head, Empire is not territory, but people. Our government is not ready to become an Empire, and you still want to drag people there who do not want it. For 100 years we have loved two Empires, and notice that the Empire was destroyed not by enemies from outside, but by our rulers or elite. Who am I paid or the authorities that do everything to make me think and act like that?

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: ALARI

And what to do with the millions of stubborn brainwashed people for whom Russia is the embodiment of evil and all the troubles because of it?

For the Far Eastern hectare.
Give one for all and bury there
Russophobes shouldn't live.

[ALARI]

I always ask people like you, and you are ready to personally enact the verdict and bury it, or someone else will carry it out, and I will stand next to you, give advice?

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: ALARI

I always ask people like you, and you are ready to personally enact the verdict and bury it, or someone else will carry it out, and I will stand next to you, give advice?

Yes, easily, if only they gave the opportunity.

As our esteemed A Fo Min sings:

"What can I? Kill one
and back to the den?
Will be found and shot
I would like to put
Everything on a grand scale:
Hoe over the head and into the hole
Hoe over the head and into the hole
Hoe over the head and into the hole
Nail in the head. "

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

The die-hard would go to their well-deserved retirement immediately

Do not deserve it.

[GYGOLA]

It was impossible to leave Ukraine to its own devices in 2014.

Now is the time to ask Yanukovych: "Who was the president of Ukraine until 14?" and most importantly: "Where is the martial law in the country in 14?" No more questions.

[fruc]

Back in 1992, he personally communicated with Ukrainian military personnel in positions in the Russian Federation, they are like zealous horses, everyone fled to Ukraine and the competition for the Ukrainian army was quite high, who was not taken in vain (if you treated Russia well, then they did not take, asked if the Russian army was ready to fight). Some acquaintances received positions at the high command offices. And no one was going to continue serving in the Russian Federation. We left 15 people at a time, and they themselves chose their future destiny.

[Flooding]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

It was impossible to release them from the boilers. Played out, in "humanity".

in the army of Ukraine now serve those who were then released from the "boilers"?
trying to understand your logic.
do you think if everyone were put in the "boilers", the Ukrainian government would now be more accommodating?
do you think they care about the lives of their fellow citizens?
and the same past years would not have been spent on strengthening the armed forces?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

It was impossible to release them from the boilers.

So they and so all that they could in these "boilers" threw - V, VT ... or do you offer all manpower in the "boilers" had to be thrown with phosphorus shells?

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Lara Croft

Or do you offer all manpower in the "boilers" should have been pelted with phosphorus shells?

Yes, even with sarin.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Narak-zempo

Yes, even with sarin.

Well, you got lost in 2014-2015, and now you remember? ... you personally and now no one is holding back the l / s of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to poison with sarin ...

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Lara Croft

Well, you got lost in 2014-2015, and now you remember? ... you personally and now no one is holding back the l / s of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to poison with sarin ...

I said so then.
And not only the personnel, but also a couple of demonstration bombings (Kiev and Lvov).
Only nobody gave me sarin.

[1976AG]

After the states have promised assistance to Ukraine, they may dare. This is a unique chance for them. There may not be another time. So they will probably attack, but of course they will blame the militias that they were the first to attack. Well, of course, they will be blamed on Russia, as without it.

[210ox]

We were, are and will be "bad guys" for them. So you have to match. It's bad that in 2014 they did not dare. Then it would have passed with less losses.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: 210ox

We were, are and will be "bad guys" for them. So you have to match. It's bad that in 2014 they did not dare. Then it would have passed with less losses.

If under this “conformity to the bad guys” Russia responds to the aggression of Ukraine with the entry of the LPNR into the Russian Federation (a number of regions where Peter I beat the Swedes and various others is possible, so that the “banderlog” remain their true fiefdom), you can endure two more terms.

[210ox]

Yes, there will be no questions here. But for some reason it seems to me that he will not go for two terms.

[lis-ik]

Quote: ROSS 42

If under this "conformity to the bad guys" Russia will respond to the aggression of Ukraine by joining the Russian Federation of the LPNR (it is possible to have a number of regions where Peter I beat the Swedes and various others, so that the "banderlog" would remain their true domain, you can endure two more terms.

This is unlikely, they will find a bunch of reasons and quite convincingly dismiss themselves, moreover, it seems that even with direct aggression towards the Russian Federation, they will pull to the last. After all, everything beyond one's strength is acquired there.

[Doliva63]

Quote: 1976AG

After the states have promised assistance to Ukraine, they may dare. This is a unique chance for them. There may not be another time. So they will probably attack, but of course they will blame the militias that they were the first to attack. Well, of course, they will be blamed on Russia, as without it.

However, on the eve of the elections, it is not profitable for Putin to "drain" the LDNR. Or is that the idea?

[210ox]

Elections?! Does the government really care? But about the words of Putin that "we will not leave" I strongly doubt it.

[bald]

Hi Dmitry, this thought haunts me, as there have been quite a few incidents. (I'm talking about Putin).

[Doliva63]

Quote: 210ox

Elections?! Does the government really care? But about the words of Putin that "we will not leave" I strongly doubt it.

How worried! The party of the Sunshine should gain 2/3 of the setting. It is easier to do this against the background of "Crimea is ours" than against the background of the "leaking" of the LPNR, you must agree.

[210ox]

I agree that the number of votes needed to win will be received anyway. This is not even a postscript, but the organization of elections, the motivation of the population who constantly go to the elections and the disregard for the elections of the remaining 60% of the electorate. So the media will arrange it as it should. The current situation is not working in our favor.

[Petrik66]

talking about the possible start of the war. where are the voices, media, etc.

[210ox]

Given that I answered a colleague above.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Petrik66

talking about the possible start of the war. where are the voices, media, etc.

What does some kind of war have to do with it, if the question of power is being decided? Power is more important, you must agree. It is another matter whether this war will be in favor of the government or to its detriment? If it's good - hurray! If not, you need to delay it, if it doesn't work - take the lead. The history of the capitalist world has many examples of this. Let me remind you: capitalism is when you care about profits, not people. We have capitalism here, if that.

[Petrik66]

In this case, the Russian Federation turned out to be in the option: either very badly, or completely .......... Much depends on Russia, but it will not determine whether the war will start or not. Everything is painfully reminiscent of 08.08.08. NATO exercises, guarantees from the States, it remains to wait for a peaceful statement from Zelepukin and that's it ... you can start. In any case, we are to blame, JV2 is closed, the sanctions are in full, the Europeans all stand at attention as one, the Chinese will express concern, and r200 will go to us. We must hit first. recognize the DPR and LPR. seven troubles - one answer.

[Svarog]

Quote: 210ox

I agree that the number of votes needed to win will be received anyway. This is not even a postscript, but the organization of elections, the motivation of the population who constantly go to the elections and the disregard for the elections of the remaining 60% of the electorate. So the media will make it right. The current situation is not working in our favor.

Do not subtract, do not add .. that is exactly how I see the "picture" and that is how things stand ..

[Doliva63]

Quote: 210ox

I agree that the number of votes needed to win will be received anyway. This is not even a postscript, but the organization of elections, the motivation of the population who constantly go to the elections and the disregard for the elections of the remaining 60% of the electorate. So the media will arrange it as it should. The current situation is not working in our favor.

What are we arguing about? I just said that it’s easier, nothing more. And so, yes, the machine will work more or less in error, so to speak, because of those who do not go to the polls. But the "bar" will not be taken. And I want to. Let's see what they come up with this time depending on the circumstances.
P.S. I remembered about motivation). I had a candidate, confidently leading against the current candidate from "Unity" (the prototype of the United Russia, as you remember, probably at its origins, besides Shoigu, there were a lot of our brothers, the military - lost, damn it.), But territory. Output? It is necessary to disrupt the turnout there. We paid local housing offices, they turned off cold water in houses for 3 days. It was in July, hot, etc. In general, the people there in protest did not go to the elections. This was my first independent election victory.

[notingem]

No elections will be held during the special period.

[AUL]

Quote: Doliva63

How worried! The party of the sunlit should gain 2/3 of the setting.

So what's the problem? they will count as much as necessary! First time, or what?

[Doliva63]

Quote from AUL

Quote: Doliva63

How worried! The party of the sunlit should gain 2/3 of the setting.

So what's the problem? they will count as much as necessary! First time, or what?

Not so simple. In single-member constituencies, for example, this does not channel 100%. If, of course, the opponents are adequate. We're not talking about the presidential right now.

[New Year day]

Quote: Doliva63

However, on the eve of the elections, it is not profitable for Putin to "drain" the LDNR. Or is that the idea?

What does the election have to do with it? We are talking about Russia. And in all cases, tsutswang. Soliet LDNR - a powerful political crisis with hundreds of thousands of our citizens and a crisis caused by forced flight - they need to be settled, given shelter, fed, given lift and much more. The US - the state debt, the oil embargo, Swift, the EU will have to join the sanctions - again the internal political and economic crisis, the fall of the ruble, etc.
This is the price of the 2014 halfway solutions.

[sentaniel]

Was there a lot of sanctions in 2008? And nothing that almost a million Russian citizenship has already received there? For what? Have you forgotten Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Nobody will merge anyone since they helped even in 2014 without a legal cover. And here, according to the UN Charter, the protection of Russian citizens will be narrower. Who was that aggressor in 2008?

[New Year day]

Quote: sentaniel

Was there a lot of sanctions in 2008?

Are you upset? Then, by the way, our servicemen with a UN mandate were the first to die.

Quote: sentaniel

And nothing that almost a million Russian citizenship has already received there?

According to us. Rostov Federal Migration Service is only 600 thousand out of 3 million 700 thousand population, i.e. slightly more than 15%.

Quote: sentaniel

Nobody will merge anyone since they helped even in 2014 without a legal cover.

After Burkhvlter's arrival, everything stopped, even Mariupol was returned to Ukraine. Don't you remember that?

Quote: sentaniel

And here, according to the UN Charter, the protection of Russian citizens will be narrower.

Don't fantasize. There is no such thing in the UN, especially since the UN considers the issuance of these passports illegal

[Achilles]

Quote: 1976AG

After the states have promised assistance to Ukraine, they may dare. This is a unique chance for them. There may not be another time. So they will probably attack, but of course they will blame the militias that they were the first to attack. Well, of course, they will be blamed on Russia, as without it.

Yes, I agree with the swami, and there is still information that the Ukrainian troops have begun demining the passages, they have been mining for about 7 years for defense in the event of a militia attack, and now they are clearing the passages, this is also a signal that there will be an offensive. What can be said 100% is that preparations are underway for this and the orders of the Ukrainian army have been given (for preparation), and most likely they will wait for the go-ahead

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Achilles

Ukrainian troops started clearing the passages

And Russian troops are conducting exercises with "Agriculture" ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Achilles

Quote: 1976AG

After the states have promised assistance to Ukraine, they may dare. This is a unique chance for them. There may not be another time. So they will probably attack, but of course they will blame the militias that they were the first to attack. Well, of course, they will be blamed on Russia, as without it.

Yes, I agree with the swami, and there is still information that the Ukrainian troops have begun demining the passages, they have been mining for about 7 years for defense in the event of a militia attack, and now they are clearing the passages, this is also a signal that there will be an offensive. What can be said 100% is that preparations are underway for this and the orders of the Ukrainian army have been given (for preparation), and most likely they will wait for the go-ahead

If the info about sappers is correct, then this spring and summer will be hot. The question is about the consequences - we are obliged to answer in case of aggression and we will obviously sweep away the defense of the Ukrainians, but what next, what steps will be taken by NATO? I think the attack on Donbass will begin in May, during the defender Europe 2021, when NATO forces will be deployed. Even if they do not dare to engage in a direct clash, retaliatory sanctions (which will undoubtedly be, and the Russian Federation will be served under the sauce of the aggressor) will kill SP2

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Achilles

there is information that the Ukrainian troops have begun to clear the passages, they have been mining for about 7 years for defense in the event of an offensive by the militia, and now they are cleaning up the passages, this is also a signal that there will be an offensive. What can be said 100% is that preparations are underway for this and the orders of the Ukrainian army have been given (for preparation), and most likely they will wait for the go-ahead

The go-ahead (if the owners are not final de * il) will be associated with the end of the thaw.
Borodai:

Whole the question is whether the war will start soon and whether Russia will provide assistance in the event of an offensive by the Armed Forces.

Remembering the climatic tricks of the striped in Vietnam, Russia could help the LDNR to make sure that the muddy roads in the adjacent territories did not end before winter.
We have the technology. In the USSR, before the May Day demonstrations, rain masses were planted where necessary, protecting the necessary territories from them.

[knn54]

Zelensky's entourage insists that if the Azerbaijanis could do it, then we are beyond any doubt. ...
He doesn't want to leave a mark on history as a "cowardly president."
So they can try the "Karabakh" scenario.
Only here the UAV is not enough.

[210ox]

A child died in Donetsk. He was killed by a drone.

[Vadim237]

This suggests that the DPR does not have electronic warfare systems, or there are very few of them - UAV drones began to be used back in 2015.

[Black lotos]

Quote: 210ox

A child died in Donetsk. He was killed by a drone.

there is not even the date of the incident from the original source. Photo fixation, no details, even the site 2016/2020 ... strange in general. Basurin complained to the OSCE. Volodin demanded to exclude Ukraine from the Council of Europe (using the phrase "with the tacit approval of the West")
On analysis on some sites, so far the version of the fake is the most likely. Not a single confirmation was highlighted. Some of the photos in evidence were generally photos of the boy and do not refer to 2021.
By the way, the OSCE reacted, but only to the shelling. We'll have to wait for their report for today. See what materials were given to them. For nothing was reported to the press. But they promoted it well. If there was a real reason for something, photos, videos and so on, every news about the event would simply be accompanied.

[AVA77]

An amateurish forecast is when you are sitting at your computer at home, and they know better on the spot.

[Ryaruav]

as in Washington they will say so it will be, and Washington really wants to pick Russia

[venik]

Quote: mtpivanov

Amateurish forecast - they scare, they will not dare to take decisive actions.

=======
God knows them! Considering the complete debilism of the Kiev puppets, who are generally not on friendly terms with their heads, everything is possible! Especially if "Uncle Sam" orders ....

[Zaurbek]

It all depends on the position of the Russian Federation ... and the position of the Russian Federation depends on the reaction of the West ... (or not)

[Incvizitor]

It is not for them to decide, but for their overseas owners, and the owners of this "ukrainu" were created just for the war with the Russian Federation.

[Pastor]

Well, so the forecast and kind of "grandmother said for two": either it will be or not, or Russia will support or not. Until we finish building SP2, we will be as diplomatic as possible. Everyone understands this and plays with it. But time passes, and just in time for May, he expects his end.

[210ox]

What will end by May? Construction (already announced, by the end of the year) Patience? So his current government does not occupy (when it comes to the Russian people in the Donbass)

[alexmach]

Well, it seems that they have already warned them as democratically as possible, redeploying troops closer to the borders.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: alexmach

Well, it seems that they have already warned them as democratically as possible, redeploying troops closer to the borders.

So they also have the most democratic exercises in May near our borders. I hope everyone understands that we are very much behind NATO in conventional weapons. Which exit? Yao? So contrary to doctrine.

[mark1]

Quote: Vol4ara

So contrary to doctrine.

Doctrine is not a wall ... It's not a doctrine, but a determination to achieve a goal.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: mark1

Quote: Vol4ara

So contrary to doctrine.

Doctrine is not a wall ... It's not a doctrine, but a determination to achieve a goal.

To ditch your cities and tens of millions of population in a couple of hours ... Here you need not only eggs. It is one thing to use Yao when the integrity of your country is threatened. It is another matter to apply it in a local conflict.

[mark1]

No - well, if you and NATO are thinking of organizing a local conflict in a limited area, then of course only eggs, this is absolutely not enough (you also need the absence of a head). And in other cases, there are many applications, not necessarily "the whole world to dust" at once. To begin with, for example, you can "slap" your palm "on the table" or in the air and say to the enemy - oo-bye-bye ... Something tells me that in 90% this will be enough (the main thing is not to lose determination if this is not enough )

[alexmach]

Which exit?

Smash Ukraine quickly before NATO has time to harness. Like a Georgian. Or to smash Ukraine "by the forces of the LDNR" Part of the Ukrainian troops will be shackled in any way in the Crimean and northern directions, even without hostilities there.

I don't know, I hope I mostly hope that they flex their muscles and calm down. The only one who is really interested in aggravating the escalation is the United States, no one else.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: alexmach

Which exit?

Smash Ukraine quickly before NATO has time to harness. Like a Georgian. Or to smash Ukraine "by the forces of the LDNR" Part of the Ukrainian troops will be shackled in any way in the Crimean and northern directions, even without hostilities there.

I don't know, I hope I mostly hope that they flex their muscles and calm down. The only one who is really interested in aggravating the escalation is the United States, no one else.

hokhly are also interested, for them this is the only option to stop sp2

[alexmach]

hokhly are also interested, for them this is the only option to stop sp2

No, they are not interested. Of course, they would like to stop SP-2, but the question is at what cost. Not at the cost of your own life. They are ready for provocation. Are they really ready for a full-scale war with the participation of Russia? Okay, let's stop the SP-2 this war will stop, and then what? What will remain of Ukraine itself, of those who are now making decisions there? You greatly overestimate this SP-2.

No, it is the USA that needs it. Ukraine is quite happy with everything as it is. And Russia is happy with that. And Europe as a whole got used to everything. One hegemon cannot sleep. And they don't even need this SP-2 by itself, they need to prevent any rapprochement between Russia and Western Europe. And then the question is, is Ukraine ready to put itself entirely on the altar of Gigemon's interests?

[Andrey Korotkov]

Geographically, I am far from Donbass, there are no acquaintances there, I would like to ask the guys URAL72, Insurgent, Ruslan Sulima, how seriously the military aggravation from the trenches is seen？

[210ox]

As for the "Insurgent" - so he has been living in Sochi for a long time, although he participated in hostilities. For others, I don’t know.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Insurgent's trench is a sofa. And the keyboard instead of the machine gun sends comments to the fan in bursts.
And according to the article .... Too detailed "forecast". And the date, more or less detailed, and directions are indicated.
True, this has already happened. About a year ago. But then, when the offensive did not happen, they carefully "moved out", they say, the dill got scared and put it off themselves.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Insurgent's trench is a sofa. And the keyboard instead of the machine gun sends comments to the fan in bursts.

The insurgent spent more than three years in the trenches, got a moderate injury, not counting the little things, so now I can't sit at the keyboard?

What's the problem, Chief? Is it not that I pinch your glorious Banderlog?

[210ox]

Sorry. I'm sorry.

[Insurgent]

Quote: 210ox

Sorry. I'm sorry.

Come on already ... The bird flew out ...

That's just how fakes are born, which will be picked up by the Leaders and others like them, and dragged along the VO, on the Internet.

Wash yourself off from the dirt that they throw.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Wash yourself off from the dirt that they throw.
And a black cat cannot be bleached ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Wash yourself off from the dirt that they throw.
And a black cat cannot be bleached ...

It is better to be natural than artificially bleached, as some

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Wash yourself off from the dirt that they throw.
And a black cat cannot be bleached ...

No, the proverb says something else: You can’t wash off a black dog! Especially if he's pretending white! And in a bandana, mows under the militia!

[Clear]

Quote: 210ox

Sorry. I'm sorry.

By the way, I was confused by the same avatars ...
But, thank God, I don't go into military specifics.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Clear

By the way, I was confused by the same avatars ...

And not at all the same

[Insurgent]

Quote: Andrey Korotkov

Geographically, I am far from Donbass, there are no acquaintances there, I would like to ask the guys URAL72, Insurgent, Ruslan Sulima, how seriously the military aggravation from the trenches is seen？

My friend, I am now "out of work", at home so far, I abandoned the service at the end of the 19th, having served for 3 years. I did not hide this information, I wrote about it on VO more than once. It is strange that there are still those who did not notice this.
And it's even stranger to read that I allegedly live in Sochi And for a long time ...

Although I have information directly from the trenches. But just like that, it is not always possible to share it.

For example, my ex-colleague, 2-3 weeks ago, was on leave, that is, when there was a noise and clamor about the offensive, the command knew that he would not be ...

Intelligence means it works ...
But naturally, then "hot on the trail" information that layoffs are not closed, it was impossible to divulge .

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Escalation in Donbass is the last chance for the United States to cancel, or at least freeze, SP-2. Therefore, they will shove 404s with all their might.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Escalation in Donbass is the last chance for the United States to cancel, or at least freeze, SP-2. Therefore, they will shove 404s with all their might.

Consider that he is no longer there. In any case, the United States is a plus. We will either run out and lose Donbass, or we will lose joint venture 2 and have a bunch of sanctions

[Holuay T.O]

Yes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are worried about javelins, so you shouldn't go head-on, we need raid operations, since we have such units
Well, the first blow must destroy all the military and political leadership

[Holuay T.O]

This is if the war

[mark1]

Quote: Holuay T.O.

Well, the first blow must destroy all the military and political leadership

A good idea is the dream of any strategist. How else to apply it ...

[Holuay T.O]

Simply, one poplar is enough with an ordinary BC in the building where the meeting will be

[mark1]

Quote: Holuay T.O.

one poplar is enough with an ordinary war unit in the building where the meeting will take place

Well, yes ... considering the use of short-range, 10-15 tons of explosives can probably be loaded onto Poplar ... They could somehow be lured to a meeting in full force ...
thin, thin ...
Didn't they call you Meehan as a girl? ...

[Holuay T.O]

Before my comment, they held the meeting without hiding in the General Staff or in the presidential administration building.
Poplar is good because there are so many self-guided warheads and they pierce thick concrete, aim 10 heads in one place, smart, they will finish everyone off, and there is nothing to intercept
Well, in case of secrecy of the meeting ..
ASSIGN

[SIT]

Then it is necessary to shoot at Washington right away, because a country with a budget consisting of 60% of external borrowings and mainly from the IMF, the leadership sits in the White House. Which of the Papuan leaders will pursue the policy of the State Department on the ground, they actually give a damn about it. Ze will be killed, the old, proven Poroshenko will be installed. For them, this is an even better option.

[Thrifty]

Their hands were untied for active actions by vushniki and naziks! Moreover, today a Vukrii drone dropped its SVU on a residential area, a 5-year-old child died! And, soon the bairaktors bought from the Turks will start bombing. ..

[alien]

Quote: Thrifty

Moreover, today a Vukrii drone dropped its SVU on a residential area, a 5-year-old child died!

Kravchuk and all the other American henchmen are non-humans.

Israeli citizen Mikhail Sidko, a witness of the tragedy in Babi Yar, speaks about German lackeys and their crimes:
“Klara saw me, raised her hands: Misha, I want to use the arms. She ran to us. Policeman catches up with her - bang on the head from above, she fell. He banged her heel on her chest - he crushed her! Mom saw it - in a swoon. The child fell out. The child screams - and he fits this child too - with a boot! And he shot my mother, in front of my eyes.
Maybe due to the fact that I did not know the German language, but in my memory only the Ukrainian Zapadensky language is in my memory. What they said BANDER POLICIES AND I EXACTLY REMEMBER EVERYTHING!
All the two half years that I lived in occupied Kiev, I was not so afraid of the Germans as I was afraid of the policemen. "

Babiy Yar

[bald]

"From the end of April, an escalation of hostilities can be expected. There are two options: Russia will not provide assistance or will come to the rescue" - no one pulled Putin by the tongue ... I think the most painful question is how to remove the civilian population from their places of residence - after all, the creatures hide behind them, like a human shield.

[Egoza]

Quote: bald

An escalation of hostilities can be expected from the end of April.

Yes, almost all of March planes fly day and night. Training is very active

[bald]

For 7 years, there was so much opportunity to crush this madness, with fewer victims, we harness the sled for too long, but we still have to harness it.

[Irek]

If they start, the border of Novorossiya will be along the Dnieper.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Irek

If they start, the border of Novorossiya will be along the Dnieper.

If Russia again confines itself to "concerns," there will be no border along the Dnieper. But there will be a lot of blood.

[210ox]

I agree completely. There are no Georgians here in 2008, and they also inflicted a lot of losses on us. It will be quite different here. The felling will be serious.

[Vadim237]

Due to the lack of aviation and the cruise missiles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they will run out within three or four days of hostilities with us, their 35-year-old air defense systems will not help them.

[hydro]

If NATO does not intervene with its aviation, it is clear that Ukraine will lose much more in the event of a full-scale war with Russia. Due to weak aviation and air defense.

[210ox]

Simple as that! It's like Prince Menshikov's in the Crimea. "We'll shower them with hats!" ©

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Irek

If they start, the border of Novorossiya will be along the Dnieper.

One out of two. Or there will be no New Russia

[Ruslan Sulima]

Borodai got out, something is clearly being started ...

[210ox]

Can be more. About Bopodai?

[Ruslan Sulima]

Can be more. About Bopodai?
Yes, he is cloudy)

[Insurgent]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Yes, he is cloudy)

Snake Who is not muddy now?

Quote: X / F "Brother-2"

- Not, Kirkorov Beard I do not like. He's some kind of sugary, tinted all over

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Insurgent's trench is a sofa. And the keyboard instead of the machine gun sends comments to the fan in bursts.
And according to the article .... Too detailed "forecast". And the date, more or less detailed, and directions are indicated.
True, this has already happened. About a year ago. But then, when the offensive did not happen, they carefully "moved out", they say, the dill got scared and put it off themselves.

I am very worried about the current situation there. Many military acquaintances, but their opinions differ 70/30

[alex aircraft]

Ukrainians can go on the offensive. to break the joint venture 2 at any cost, their task and May holidays are ideal time. and the point is that the Russian Federation introduces aggressor troops and new sanctions, does not introduce the fall of Donbass and, as a consequence, a strong internal political crisis on the eve of the elections in GD. But GDP is time to reshutsa, otherwise just tsutswang.

[anjey]

If we are to lose Nord Stream2, then Russia will have no choice but to take away completely Ukrainian ...

[alexmach]

Russia introduces aggressor troops and new sanctions, does not impose the fall of Donbass

What about the Russian Federation does not openly introduce troops, and Donbas holds out for a month, during this time the flow is being completed and then, after numerous atrocities, the ukrovermacht is crushed and multiplied by zero?

[hydro]

A month, you started, 21 thousand fighters against 100, messy for a month, it is not SP-2 that needs to be defended, but Donbass - people

[hydro]

The first is the aggression of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the second is a counter-strike, the rest is unacceptable, they will be delayed until the last

[rocket757]

There are questions ... no answers!

[alien]

Quote: rocket757

There are questions ... no answers!

It is necessary to wake up the Rus / Rusyns / Cossacks / Maloros / Ukrainians.
We need to decide - on whose side are they?

- On the side of the King of Sweden Karl and the betrayer of Mazepa, or on the side of Kochubei and Iskra, who are buried in the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra?
Poltava 1709g
“Mazepa promises Karl either 20 or 000 Cossacks (there were about 50 of them at that time, 000 of the Zaporozhye Sich and 40 registered ones). But about 000 (10 Cossacks and 000 registered) came to the army of Charles. <...> Remained by the time of the battle around xnumx.»
https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20210328/1030941640.html

- On the side of the Nazis and the traitor Bandera? Or on the side of the soldiers of the Soviet army, who defeated fascism in the Great Patriotic War?

- On the side of the American NATO and the new Nazis who are killing the residents of Donbass? Or on the side of the defenders of Dobass, who defend their right to live in their native land, speak their native language, sacredly preserve the memory of the feat of the people-liberator?

Angels ... meet ... I'm Pauline ...
And me...
killed ... Ukraine ...
Drunk ... screaming cattle ...
Crushed tanks dreams ...

There is no more me in this world ...
Do not walk with my girlfriends in the summer ...
My soul flies high
Sorry ... because life was so good ....

I was just starting to live ...,
How simple it is ... to take ... and kill everything ....
The army has come ... to protect us? ...
No ... you came ... to rob ... to kill ....

Army ... - Stoned creatures ...
They fought with their own people ...,
Well, you consider one country ...,
With whom then ... are you fighting a war ...?

How many of us will go up forever ...,
So that you get drunk on blood? ...
Evil is coming ... feasting on the planet ...,
There is no forgiveness ... if children die ...!

Marina Sotskaya (Kharchukova)
https://kolybanov.livejournal.com/10546826.html

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

There are questions ... no answers!

Too much speculation, but something will happen ...

[rocket757]

Too many ... different intereses and wishes !!! From all sides.
And people who suffer, for the most part have already decided everything a long time ago ... they want to go home to Russia!
I don’t know what to say yet, I don’t know who would dare to solve the problem radically and completely!
Any half measures have long been bringing only harm! We must do what the peoples want! Our great Russian people.

[cniza]

It is necessary, but so far there is no such desire, and why? I do not understand...

[rocket757]

We have one "giraffe", how and what he thinks, they don't report to us ...
This is no longer surprising ... it makes me angry. We need actions for the good of people, and we will all go through the consequences, and it won't get much worse.
Break through!

[Clear]

Quote: cniza

It is necessary, but so far there is no such desire, and why? I do not understand...

Yes, many in Russia do not understand this.

Good evening

[George Koval]

We must make it clear to everyone that if the Ukrainians attack the Donbass, then Russia will provide direct assistance, and if Washington gets involved, then a blow will be delivered to Washington too! Maybe it will stop hot and dumb heads ...

[hydro]

And then a nuclear massacre, brilliant)

[Vladimir61]

I went to see my relatives for a couple of days. The situation in the vicinity is normal, although yesterday, late in the evening, not far away, there was a decent noise. Ours answer. I did not notice any particular anxiety in people. Everyone is already a little strained by the eternal postscript in the form - "NM suppressed enemy firing positions from those not prohibited by the Minsk agreement." There is only one message - when they have all been killed. It is damp in the morning, the clouds are low, about 300 m, therefore, the ringing of the trolls about the fact that stormtroopers are already raising to repel the "aggression from the Russian mercenaries" is not yet feasible. In general, there is less chatter about war and panic here than there is in the media. But everyone hopes that in the event of a major provocation or offensive, Russia will not remain on the sidelines.

[rocket757]

We also hope, but no one asks us what we want and what we are ready to overcome when what should be done is done.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: rocket757

We hope too, but no one asks us

Here the hope is justified, everyone knows that without the help from Russia, Donbass would have had a hard time! And everyone who was afraid and did not believe disappeared back in 2014.

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: 210ox

Yes, there will be no questions here. But for some reason it seems to me that he will not go for two terms.

Zelensky？ I agree not to pull out, but in coalition with Poroshenko's party？

[kventinasd]

Even if the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Bolsheviks do not dare to attack now, then in the future, in their hopes of weakening Russia, they will fully realize this, and then there will indeed be a lot of blood. So we need to act now, before the Nazi hydra has grown. And no third Minsk.

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Can be more. About Bopodai?
Yes, he is cloudy)

Curated by curators？

[Ulysses]

I hope the Russian GRU is aware of the plans of the Kiev regime.
There will be no third Minsk.

[dgonni]

Cool!
From the Russian side, trains are coming in large numbers. It's hot on the borders with Ukraine.
But will Ukraine attack?
Are they brainless?
Armored vehicles heading to the borders of Ukraine. Moreover, with painted over signs speaks for something else.

[cniza]

Where did you get this information from?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: cniza

Where did you get this information from?

Banned on Google? All week video on the open spaces of the "web" ....
Minimum MSBR. either from the 8th OA (which is unlikely) or from the 49th OA from the Rostov direction ..... these are the closest associations near Ukraine ...
Echelons are also coming from the depths of Ukraine, but it can be a rotation of formations ...

[Andobor]

Quote: Lara Croft

All week video on the open spaces of the "web" ....

In the vastness of the web, not what is happening, but what someone is spinning,
in the 14th there were no echelons, but there was Crimea.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Andobor

in the 14th there were no echelons, but there was Crimea.

And in 2014 there were trains too ...

[Andobor]

Quote: Lara Croft

And in 2014 there were trains too ...

- After. - Help. Before, - it was calm and smooth, otherwise it would not have been.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Andobor

Before, - it was calm and smooth, otherwise it would not have been.

Before what?

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Holuay T.O.

This is if the war

Volunteer？

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Andrey Korotkov

Volunteer？

There are no bad ones. There are more and more analysts and truth-tellers .... less often whistleblowers-amateurs of the "bloody" regime ....

[cniza]

An escalation of hostilities in the territory of Donbass can be expected at the end of April

They won't start without a team from the USA ...

[Clear]

Quote: cniza

An escalation of hostilities in the territory of Donbass can be expected at the end of April

They won't start without a team from the USA ...

No doubt , these will give the command. Like Georgia 08.08.08.

[Slipper 2]

the law of all couches on the first / meat line, and there will be a lull .......
Suddenly they will win, because now the generations have gone crumbling, and in the 41st the people were hard, what do you think?

[Denis Rumyanny]

Bayraktars want to run in Donbass. The defeat of Karabakh was very inspiring. After the thaw in April, but before the greenery in May they will start.

[O. Bender]

Judging by the information pressure on Russia (in the news and the networks you can only hear that Russia is aggressive, literally towards everyone in the world), the media pumping with continuous negativity gives reason to think about how this might end. Having unleashed the war in Donbass, the collective west represented by the most notorious hawks immediately resolves a number of issues. Both in the Sp2, and in the Arctic, or rather along the NSR, as well as the Kuriles, under this noise, fall into a high-risk zone. We are pressed in all directions. And Donbass is the most painful and hottest point for Russia, from which a big batch will begin They promised to support Ukraine well. Moreover, the National Battalions, like a stagnant horse, demand prancing. They are already making passes in minefields. KSK will be supported by Donbass, by what forces and means, will the decision-makers have enough will for active support? Or as in 1941 , do not succumb to provocations! ?? And so Easter is the very reason for the Nazis to start.

[agoran]

There are many questions, few answers, well, what can you see from the couch.
The supply of diesel fuel from the Russian Federation has decreased, which is 20% of the consumption of 404, and sowing is on the nose.
The movement of Russian troops according to NATO. The movement is moving, perhaps hidden, but it is moving.

[agoran]

Moving ukrovoysk, the technique is not made for bluffing. This kind of logistics costs money and not small ones. And this is in conditions of the fact that 404 has a problem with finances and loans are no longer given.
So, yes, it is quite possible that the descendants of the ancient Sumerians are capable of full-size provocation.

[opposite28]

Wishlist according to Alexander Borodai

[U-58]

Zelenskiy's policy has lost popularity, since he has achieved nothing, except for a drop in his rating below the baseboard.
As often happens in such cases, the way out of the situation can be a small victorious war with the aim of raising patriotic sentiments and "glorifying" Pan Zalensky. Fortunately, the American president (the one that Biden) will encourage such a war and has already promised help

[petrol cutter]

"He stressed that if Russia does not provide assistance, it will be difficult for the republics to conduct prolonged military operations with superior enemy forces. In case of assistance, Ukraine will be defeated."
Logical.
It remains to understand the "opinion of the head of the Transport Department".
Here taperecha / as always (however), it all depends on a strong-willed decision.
The public as a whole seems to be already prepared.
To abrupt action. Or not?!..
Only half-hearted solutions are not needed again.
The third chance is to wait for a long time. But we may not wait

[Holuay T.O]

Quote: Holuay T.O.

Before my comment, they held the meeting without hiding in the General Staff or in the presidential administration building.
Poplar is good because there are so many self-guided warheads and they pierce thick concrete, aim 10 heads in one place, smart, they will finish everyone off, and there is nothing to intercept
Well, in case of secrecy of the meeting ..
ASSIGN

[agoran]

I have such a thinker.
Look, after the loss of Crimea, 404 lost interest of the Anglo-Saxons by 30%, and if the Sumerians lose the left-bank part, who will be interested in it? Well, except for Poland and Hungary.

[Baal]

The situation today.

[Alex Justice]

So it is necessary to name the names of the criminals and show portraits, as well as their civilian victims. The people should know the criminals by sight.

[Woland]

The volunteer union is good. But the leadership of Luhansk and Donetsk should announce a UNIVERSAL mobilization, send (and Russia-accept) ONLY women, old people and children to Russia. All the rest should be defended for weapons and the Motherland. First, it is necessary to push the Ukrainian Armed Forces out of the region in order to prevent them from destroying the infrastructure of settlements with artillery and air strikes. If this is not done, there were no figs and a fence. let then hands up the "mountain" and into captivity. Wait that WHO -TO (in the sense of Russia) will fight for you, and your men (as it was in that war), grabbing the children in their arms, rushed to Russia-wasted work

[Kronos]

This is a civil war, what kind of mobilization?

[113262a]

This is normal MOBILIZATION!

[Kronos]

People will simply run even more. I'm not saying that there is no worse fighter than a forcibly drafted.

[113262a]

And where will they run? The border is locked! You can't run beyond the checkpoint! So, get up, the country is HUGE! Or again grandfathers take the rap?

[113262a]

As in 14, the first thing 404 will hit is the cities and towns. Only now - Hurricanes and Whirlwinds. As for Stakhanov and Pervomaisk before. That would be a victim among the peaceful and panic.

[opuonmed]

The Russian Federation will provide 100% help if they do not then do not need such a government to the people of the Russian Federation! and there will be no Ukraine as a state but there will be a republic of Ukraine within the Russian Federation!

[agoran]

No republics of Ukraine, Kiev province and nothing else.

[opuonmed]

well, either way! World 3 is already underway!

[agoran]

So yes, I hope that VVP will play this game as beautifully as with a magpie in Armenia.

[lopvlad]

An escalation of hostilities can be expected from the end of April. There are two options: Russia will not provide assistance or will come to the rescue

with a high probability it will be in the first half of April, and as for Russia, it has no options other than to come to the rescue, unless of course Russia wants to survive as a power.
The fact that the issue of Ukraine would have to be resolved and resolved by force was clear immediately after the coup d'état in 2014, but then, unlike today, there were a lot of illusions inside the Russian government that it would be possible to reconcile with the West, and some even believed that Europe had Subjectivity, and the absence of breakthrough types of weapons in Russia then played a role. The presence of new types of weapons in Russia significantly cools the hotheads in the United States and NATO, because there are no suicides and idiots who are ready in deeds, and not in words, to die for death. knows how to very clearly differentiate their risks and their capabilities (it is easy to supply weapons and set Ukraine on a war with Russia, but there is no way to fight and die for Ukraine).

[Kronos]

These weapons are in meager quantities, the military potential and industry of NATO + the United States is much larger.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Kronos

These weapons are in scanty quantities.

the main thing in armament is not a scanty amount, but the fact that you have ways to counter it or not. Meeting even one hypersonic "Dagger" with a nuclear warhead and an aircraft carrier is fatal for the latter.
In general, it is foolish to talk about the scantiness of new types of weapons if you remember that having in service with several nuclear bombs, the United States, blackmailing them with their use in the second half of the forties, actually threw the USSR out of Iran.

Quote: Kronos

the military potential and industry of NATO + US is much larger.

these are all old types of weapons to counter which there are Russian types of weapons and a clear algorithm of actions.
And in the West, for some reason, the thought that even in the event of a war that threatens Russia with destruction, we will never use even tactical nuclear weapons against them.
We will hit them with everything that comes to hand.

[Kronos]

Well, they probably have a reason in the form of a place of study, residence, storage of money for the top of Russia in the west.

[Mister who]

The military potential of the United States + NATO is not at all greater, the basis of Yao, plus or minus parity, there is also a bio weapon, which is second in importance after Yao, given the stupor in which the whole world has plunged from the covid, and if there is something more serious.

[Mister who]

It is necessary to stop reacting in a standard way, to introduce a conditional adversary into confusion or stupor, as an example politically (sabotage on the gas transportation system, hacker attack on the banking sector) Europe will get angry, proceedings will begin, etc., bio .... etc .. There are many options, the main thing is that there is no confusion of war and people are safe and there are no new sanctions. These are just assumptions, a fantasy played out. Peace-peace, war-pipi.ka.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Mister Who

Europe will get angry, proceedings will begin, etc., bio .... etc.

this transgender hamster on a leash with the United States and constantly peeking in and catching every word of the United States as the ultimate truth? ... They are even ready to freeze, not having a particle of sovereignty, to defend themselves the supply of gas at reduced prices with a maximum guarantee of supply (Nord Stream 2).

[Yuriy71]

To Putin - Hello! Got it! In 2014, he could become a People's Hero and a Saint for the Russian people! And now, even the Lavra of Crimea will not save! In 2014, there was everything: even the permission of the Federation Council to send troops to Ukraine! He was too afraid of sanctions and loss of income from his oligarch friends! As a result, what we have in the near future and Putin will no longer be able to prevent this - the NATO Navy base in Ochakov, near Odessa (the loss of this entire region), bases throughout Ukraine, further arming of Ukraine and "the second Poland in terms of hatred" towards Russia ! And maybe - the First !!! War - still cannot be avoided! Only, if in 2014 it could have been done "with little blood", now - the war will be much more bloody !!! And what about the sanctions? I hope you understand everything about the sanctions! They - were and will be ALWAYS !!!

[lopvlad]

Quote: Yuriy71

In 2014, there was everything:

in 2014, the share of modern technology in the troops was only 16%, which means that the troops had 84% of the trash still released during the USSR, food dependence on the West for the main product categories, the lack of shelling of the army (we have not fought since the days of Afghanistan), dependence on foreign components State defense order (from engines to control systems).
You gathered an army, the main part of which then did not have combat experience to fight on rusty rubbish to victoriously capture all of Ukraine in a few days? Russia even fought a week with the Georgian under-army of several tens of thousands of people.
Even if it could be done quickly, the West would include all possible sanctions in one package at once, the Russian economy would collapse into such a crisis that we would again find ourselves in the 90s.
And the worst thing is that in Ukraine, the liberated Ukrainians would curse us, because the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians in 2014 were confident that they would live happily in the EU and receive European salaries and pensions.

[Kronos]

What has changed?

[lopvlad]

Quote: Kronos

What has changed?

1) the share of modern technology in the troops increased from 16 to 68%. Russia is the only country in the world armed with hypersonic weapons.
2) the Russian army went through the modern war in Syria.
3) oddly enough, critical food dependence on foreign food has been eliminated.
4) the vast majority of foreign components in the defense industry have been replaced, dependence on Ukrainian components has been completely eliminated.
5) the resilience of the financial system to stress has been strengthened, there are elements of its own financial system. The Russian segment of the Internet will not collapse if someone in the West decides to pull the switch.

and most importantly, now among Ukrainians only the insane thinks that he will be accepted into the EU as a family and will be paid European pensions and salaries.
Everyone in their own skin realized that after the coup in Ukraine it only got worse, so that they consider work and life in Russia under sanctions a chance for a better future. In 2014, after Crimea left them for Russia, most Ukrainians considered and associated their best the future is exclusively with the EU and the West.

Yes, of course, a large banderization of Ukraine, but in 2014 this banderization was not only but also served as the main armed and striking force during the coup. But this is not critical in central, eastern Ukraine and in the southeast, as it is an alien element for these regions.
As for Galicia, it is unnecessary for Russia and no one is going to annex this region.
Someone may remember how long the USSR was catching Bandera in the forests up to the 60s, but then they had no place to run, but now they can run to Galicia.

[Black lotos]

everything is strange.
If the echelons of equipment in the Russian Federation are on our territory what we want, then we do and, in general, exercises.
If the echelons in Ukraine are a provocation, preparations for an invasion where it is impossible, and in general they are punitive and other propaganda tricks ..
After all, trains ride around their countries? It would seem that the situation is mirrored. Despite the fact that the Russian Federation always distances itself from the conflict, considering it a "civil war". But why is there a train to the south to the Crimea, to the border with Ukraine. RB is also tightening up.
I understand that the stakes must be high for games with partners now. And then the partners do not want SP2, then some stolen bicycles float. Also, Biden is not in his mind about partners.
Reminds of Kim's style, but he has nothing to lose.
And if the partners are not afraid? Well, they just don't get scared. Based on the very ideas of the commentators, they don't care about Ukraine and the lives of Ukrainians. Risk them, give them a complete carte blanche.
And then all the innuendo is aimed at the play of muscles. And so every year. It's just that the rates are going up.
Every year we read that Ukraine will almost attack Moscow. But at the same time, LDNR is part of Ukraine. And Minsk is the indestructible republics of the free. With residence permit and border. Look, they will introduce a visa .. (I'm talking about the LPR and DPR)
and again a year has passed and again dates. And injection.
And almost every commentator wants a missile bombing strike on Ukraine and believes that after such a thing there will be someone meeting someone with flowers ..
Maybe just flowers like from an art park or something ..
Let's go without pumping. And so the entire media industry is trying. Let's wait for the results of the muscle play.

[Tiger]

[quote = bayard] [quote = Andrey Nikolaevich] First, Ukrainians would blame Russia for the rest of their lives for not giving them the opportunity to "make the European choice" [/ quote]
What do you care about these marginals? Which in Ukraine at most 25% will be typed.
75% of the population of Ukraine was waiting for help from Russia and with pleasure would accept the idea of ​​becoming a part of it.
[quote = Andrey Nikolaevich] [/ quote]
Well, with percentages, you are clearly wrong! In 2014, more than 80% of the population of that Ukraine (including residents of Donbass) really wanted the opportunity (and the RIGHT!) To make "their" European choice. Now, they just imagined it in a completely different way and with different results for themselves ...)))
And then no one expected any help from Russia, and vice versa, they perceived the "opinion of Russia" solely as an obstacle and jealousy.

[quote = Andrey Nikolaevich]
And thirdly, it is much cheaper than what Russia received - in terms of sanctions, from the severing of trade and cooperation ties, logistics and direct military expenditures, to cover its borders with Bandera's Ukraine.
The stingy and lazy always pays twice. But Russia pays both three and four times ... and are you really happy with what has happened over the past 7 years? [/ quote]
I am personally, YES, satisfied! Such growth of own production (including renovation of factories, workshops, equipment, etc.), such growth in agriculture (qualitative and quantitative) and in such a short time - it was impossible to dream ...))) Only chicken and pork meat has turned from an importer into an exporter!
And the losses from the "severing of trade ties" - the Western "partners" lost at times more! For them, the Russian market has been heavenly manna for many years ... Well, but we have learned to provide for ourselves.

[quote = Andrey Nikolaevich]
Instead of becoming stronger, demonstrating the WILL and rallying the former (and not only) fraternal republics around itself into a new Union - the Eurasian ... 3 times ... And came close to a social explosion ...
And this is all a CONSEQUENCE of the manifested WEAKNESS.
And betrayal.
First of all, betrayal of YOUR interests. [/ quote]

In addition to WILL, history confirms that you first need to have MIND ..! Hitler in 1939 and 1941 had an abundance of will ... The result is known!
And what about "... the economy," "the armament program," "the standard of living of Russians" and "social ..." - what are you ABOUT? Is this all about Ukraine ?! Then it's clear!
Haven't you read the opinion of the same Western "partners" and their slobbering envious words about the Russian economy in 2020? Take an interest, this is curious!
The standard of living of Russians, again, with whom are you comparing? And for example, where has this level increased over the last 5 years? IN USA? France? Germany? Or maybe in the Tribaltic countries? Poland? )))
I'm not asking about a social explosion - I understand that this is about the United States ... the world has not seen such pogroms and outright mess as in the United States for a long time! I agree! Chur us from takgo ... Chur! Chur!


[quote = Andrey Nikolaevich] Who and at whose expense will pay pensions, benefits of 30 million citizens, half of whom do not have a job and sources of income at all?
Why does it bother you so much?
Pensions are now being paid there, and the state is at the very least, but it exists. What makes you think that someone will take a piece of butter from you?
Ukraine is one of the three leading exporters of grain. There are the richest black soils. [/ quote]
Black earth? Whose black earth is it now? Hasn't the land been sold yet ..?
Ukraine is indeed potentially a very rich country ... was ... as rich in resources and potential as it is stupid for leaders!

[AC130 Gunship]

Not everything is as smooth in Ukraine as it might seem to someone. Jaroslav Hasek wrote his novel about Svejk immediately after the 1st World War. It describes "a xenz - an old, thin old man who was raised by his father in hatred of Russians." The author describes the beginning of the war - 1914. Even then, there were people in Golitsia who hated Russians since at least 1840 (+/-). This attitude also existed in the Soviet period. They just didn't talk about it. In the late 80s I was in Lviv. If you say something on the street or in a store in Russian, they looked at you very, very viciously ...

[Gregory Charnota]

21-05-21 Western partners are greedy for beautiful dates as in the case of 08-08-08

[Evil 55]

The "jumpers" prepared a couple of divisions, but the NM DNR (LPR) have also existed for seven years for a reason ... In any case, specialists have already been prepared, and equipment from the times of the USSR, "accidentally" and "unexpectedly" discovered on the territory of the republics and in its places storage at the Ukrainian SSR was served and brought to a normal battle ... And there is confidence that there are already more means of fire suppression in the republics than in the Armed Forces of Ukraine ..

[sgr291158]

They need to end the war, they want NATO. therefore they can hit.

[xorek]

Sooner or later, but a collision must occur ... I hope ours are ready!
Most residents of Donbass are citizens of Russia, so Russia will not be able to sit out this time Yes, already tired of listening to this Bandera barking ..

[Tezcatlipoca]

Hello. IMHO - we are losing the initiative. Let's recall the operation "Canned food" by Aloizych (Glaivitsa provocation).

[Enemy]

And I wonder on whose side will our nezalezhny "ally" be?

[Sayeret Matkal]

I don't understand why the republics are fighting. Poverty, lack of prospects, corruption, quasi-governmental organizations, prospects of entering a rogue country (rf).

Are the examples of Abkhazia, Kaliningrad, Transnistria, Ossetia of other points on the planet not serving as examples of prospects?

What is the essence of all body movements that only delay the end.
Better to become part of the state that is on the way to the EU. where there are more prospects

[bzolotaryov]

Will start on May 9

[Ilya Aksyonov]

During the first two days, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will try to break the resistance of the DPR and LPR, and over the next week, Russian troops will reach Lviv and Ukraine, as a state will not, because Russia will protect Russian citizens, wherever and however you want.
For everything from ten days to two weeks.
Well, and then sanctions, howls and hysterics of the EU and the US, but none of them will dare to take military action.
Nord Stream 2 will be frozen until next winter, when frosts hit. And then they will tearfully ask to complete it, and it seems that the United States will fall apart into separate states by the end of this year.
All Ukrainian nationalists are hanged on poles by neighbors in the house, along the entrance and down the street during the first days even before the arrival of the Russian army, as in their time all traitors and enemies were hanged in Odessa.
At the first transitional stage, power in Ukraine will be transferred to the opposition headed by Medvedchuk, and then elections and referendums will be held on joining Russia in the regions of Ukraine.