"Remind me about" Calibers ": The expert proposed to ensure the protection of" Nord Stream-2 "by ships of the Baltic Fleet

Russia needs to solve the problems with provocations around Nord Stream 2 through diplomatic means, and if such a decision is impossible to take military measures. This was stated by the editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko on the air of the 60 minutes program.

Korotchenko, commenting on the situation with Poland's provocations in the construction zone of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, said that the Russian Security Council needs to hold a series of consultations through closed channels with a similar Polish agency to prevent possible incidents.

According to the Russian expert, Warsaw must "show sobriety" in assessing the situation, otherwise a military conflict may arise, the consequences of which will hit everyone.

In the event that Poland refuses to solve problems at the diplomatic level, Russia has another way out - to remind about the Russian "Calibers" and to ensure the protection of the pipeline construction by ships of the Baltic fleet... At the same time, he stressed that this does not require entering the territorial waters of other countries, since the Caliber is a long-range cruise missile.

We don't even need to enter the territorial waters of Denmark or any other country: the Kalibr cruise missiles allow us to strike at a distance of up to 1 kilometers

- he added.

Earlier, the operator of Nord Stream 2 announced the frequent provocations of foreign ships and vessels in the gas pipeline construction zone. Particular zeal is expressed by Poland, whose vessel tried to ram the supply ship Vladimir Strizhev. In Warsaw itself, all charges are denied.

Comments

[Ross xnumx]

In the event that Poland refuses to resolve the problems at the diplomatic level, Russia has another way out - to remind about the Russian "Calibers" and to ensure the protection of the pipeline construction by the ships of the Baltic Fleet. At the same time, he stressed that this does not require entering the territorial waters of other countries, since the Caliber is a long-range cruise missile.

The only correct decision. The most interesting thing is that while Poland is snatching the Lyuli, the rest of the EU will just press its backside and shut its mouth ... In order not to snatch it out for the company.

[rocket757]

What does the "caliber" have to do with it? Are there interesting objects / targets for them?

[xorek]

Quote: rocket757

What does the "caliber" have to do with it? Are there interesting objects / targets for them?

Victor agrees! These TV experts say that.
There is protection there, but with the political one it is very difficult .. After all, the outskirts will be disconnected from the pipe and the gentlemen will have to pay for EVERYTHING, although I think the main reason is Germany !!! She is the main "cash cow" of the United States and Israel and influence on everyone in the EU (well, except for the Anglo-Saxons, these came out understanding where things were going) ..
The fight goes on

[Old tanker]

The same, damn it, "ekperd". The most illiterate biased and gorlopansky on TV. Korotchenko is only interested in self-promotion and loot.

[The leader of the Redskins]

And they get it out of naphthalene when you need to create an "extra" on TV.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And they get it out of naphthalene when you need to create an "extra" on TV.

Of course, Korotchenko went too far about the "Caliber", but about the protection of the ships of the joint venture by ships (armed - yes! - "Caliber"), in case of inadequacy of the Poles (and the other crazy "democrats") in the negotiations, he said right!

[knn54]

-Russia needs to solve the problems with provocations around "Nord Stream-2" by diplomatic means, and if such a decision is impossible to take military measures.
As Al Capone said, "A good word and a good revolver work better than just a kind word."

[spirit]

Any sane person understands that these "experts" are heralds of prostitutes! In any country there are enough of such confused people! But the fact that through them the situation is now heating up on both sides is alarming! Let's hope that there are still politicians of the Khrushchev-Kenedy level! which, as it were, they were not criticized, but still took the world away from a nuclear catastrophe, and did not follow the path of crazy hawk warriors on both sides

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: spirit

there are still politicians of the Khrushchev-Kenedy level! which, as it were, they were not criticized, but still took the world away from a nuclear catastrophe

fucking logic - first the world was put on the brink of this catastrophe, and then dragged away from the edge - wisdom beats over the edge, yeah. Keeping the world hostage to your phallometric chimeras is a "level"?

[vik669]

Yes, the level of this "ekperda" talking about "calibers" is clearly below the plinth, like the majority of similar clowns who are "ekperdy" all over and about everything!

[Andrey Korotkov]

[/ quote] [quote = Old tanker] The same, damn it, "ekperd". The most illiterate biased and gorlopansky on TV. Korotchenko is only interested in self-promotion and loot.

I apologize wildly to the old tanker, but your expression - illiterate Korotchenko - is not a clever phrase on your part, illiterate in what？ Colonel of the Air Force reserve, never working with the personnel （political officer） Engaged？ here I agree with you, but it’s better to overlook ...

[Bez 310]

Quote: Andrey Korotkov

Air Force Reserve Colonel

Who are you talking about? Really about that "expert"?

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Bez 310

Quote: Andrey Korotkov

Air Force Reserve Colonel

Who are you talking about? Really about that "expert"?

Yes

[Andrey Korotkov]

bez, I answered the question

[Bez 310]

Quote: Andrey Korotkov

bez, I answered the question

I understood...

[Alex Justice]

And why didn’t they increase the security when the work was resumed?

[Kostyar]

It is strange that they haven’t been guarded yet ???
In Soviet times, all the provocateurs would have fed the fish for a long time!

[smart ass]

In this case, the helicopter carrier would be very useful

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: rocket757

What does the "caliber" have to do with it? Are there interesting objects / targets for them?

North of Poland, missile defense base （2022） with the possibility of placing there universal launchers not only anti-missile but also axes （medium range） In the case of mixing Kaliningrad with Iskander, I think I will have to support including Calibers.

[iouris]

If the "respected expert" proposed, and even on the air, then the question should immediately be put to a vote in the State Duma of the Russian Federation.

[Aag]

Quote: rocket757

What does the "caliber" have to do with it? Are there interesting objects / targets for them?

... Um .. Maybe we should start with the voice acting of the BF payroll? And, for understanding, the NATO fleet, henchmen ...?

[rocket757]

After the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the USSR, NATO are always bigger ... but not everyone is willing / ready.
Violations there are specific, from one specific country ...
We do not fight with them, but drive them along ... "skerries", drive them away, this is quite enough.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: ROSS 42

The most interesting thing is that while Poland is snatching the Lyuli, the rest of the EU will just press its backside and shut its mouth ... In order not to snatch it out for the company.

The "rest of the EU" are members of NATO. They will include Article 5 of their Statute if Poland starts

Quote: ROSS 42

snatch out "lyuli"

This is, for a minute, not some sniffed periphery like Greece, but the center of Europe.
It is wiser to corporately shorten the ardor of these gopniks, who all strive to walk on the edge. And then again, as a result of both world wars, it will be necessary to resolve the "Polish question".

[2 Level Advisor]

Zhahnut caliber on such a "boat with a motor" that she tried to "ram" - not fat for her? and most importantly, at what point do you strike with a caliber of 1500 km, which you still need to fly? You need to do something, but the proposal of an expert of this is delusional choice .. (Stirlitz flogged nonsense - nonsense squealed quietly)

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

To bang with caliber on such a "boat with a motor" that she tried to "ram" - it won't be fat for her? ... the proposal of an expert of this is delusional choice ..

Well, why not show off "calibers" in the studio of Channel One? )) In this position, he is not a military expert, but an ordinary populist, whom Shorty Shapiro collects "on our blue screens" so that they carry delirium that is digestible for common brains.

[Aag]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

To bang with caliber on such a "boat with a motor" that she tried to "ram" - it won't be fat for her? ... the proposal of an expert of this is delusional choice ..

Well, why not show off "calibers" in the studio of Channel One? )) In this position, he is not a military expert, but an ordinary populist, whom Shorty Shapiro collects "on our blue screens" so that they carry delirium that is digestible for common brains.

Rough ... Ugly ... And, in fact, it is true. ((((

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

The "rest of the EU" are members of NATO. They will include Article 5 of their Statute if Poland starts

Will not include ... or can you imagine how the German Otto and Hans will go to die for the presumptuous Poles?
Not to mention the Jones and Jacks from the "zaluzhin" ... They will find a way to "get away" ...

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Will not include ... or can you imagine how the German Otto and Hans will go to die for the presumptuous Poles?

Include. This does not mean the immediate start of hostilities, it will be a collective defense regime, and no one is going to die. Draw another "red line" and look at each other because of it, squinting like Clint Eastwood. There are no dypaks to fight. The only ones who will die (in the worst case) are the crew of the Polish combat boat. Provided, of course, the impact of fire on the Polish vessel. But this is all Saturday fantasy.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Include. This does not mean the immediate start of hostilities, it will be a collective defense regime, and no one is going to die. Draw another "red line" and look at each other because of it, squinting like Clint Eastwood. There are no dypaks to fight.

If you do not fight, then the fifth article becomes a fiction ... And the precedent with its failure to use it will ruin the coalition. Any Baltic tigers will understand that they were simply led by the nose ...

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

If you do not fight, then the fifth article becomes fiction ...

Article 5 is collective defense. And all the activities corresponding to this principle. In your opinion, from some minor incident to stir up a continental war just for the sake of confirming the status of the alliance and preventing its collapse?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Article 5 is collective defense. And all the activities corresponding to this principle. In your opinion, from some minor incident to stir up a continental war just for the sake of confirming the status of the alliance and preventing its collapse?

You agreed with the boys that you will be for each other - one for all, and all for one ... We got into a fight, and your "friends" conferred and decided to confine ourselves to public censure ... How long will such an alliance last?

[vik669]

Any Baltic tigers will not understand because there is nothing to understand.

[Deck]

German Otto and Hans will go to die for presumptuous Poles?

But I'm curious: you will go to die for the interests of Nord Stream 2 AG, a company created for the construction and subsequent operation of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline with headquarters in Zug, Switzerland. And its main investors ENGIE, OMV, Shell, Uniper and Wintershall Dea. By questioning the safety of your loved ones?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Deck

But I'm curious: you will go to die for the interests of Nord Stream 2 AG - the company

For the Motherland ... And what does the SP-2 have to do with it? And how did you bring her here? The Poles are obviously attacking OUR property. We will not defend OWN - we will lose everything ...

[Deck]

Gazprom is owned by 25,20% of the American company. Who is YOUR? Homeland, well, well

[Aag]

Quote: Deck

German Otto and Hans will go to die for presumptuous Poles?

But I'm curious: you will go to die for the interests of Nord Stream 2 AG, a company created for the construction and subsequent operation of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline with headquarters in Zug, Switzerland. And its main investors ENGIE, OMV, Shell, Uniper and Wintershall Dea. By questioning the safety of your loved ones?

Do not spoil the water! Interests of "native" oligarchs, national policy!
We are all, in one impulse, for capitalism with a "human face", "social obligations" ... ((((

[Deck]

Here is a mountain shooter for the interests of shareholders by the mountain

[lucul]

They will include the 5th article

All they will include is 5th gear reverse.
There is no longer a red threat, and the Europeans see no reason to die for Ukraine or Poland there.

[sabakina]

Is that what everyone is fixated on this "territorial water"? As far as I understand, the pipeline is being laid in an "economic zone" free for navigation.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: sabakina

As far as I understand, the pipeline is being laid in an "economic zone" free for navigation.

The passage of warships through the Sound is free, but the presence of warships both in the waterways and in the Danish economic zone is coordinated through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

[sabakina]

Vlad, why can't Lavrov tell them two magic letters?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: sabakina

Vlad, why can't Lavrov tell them two magic letters?

That would be the smartest decision. It's time for the panama to pinch the tail.
Probably the gentlemen forgot the song -

On the Don and in Zamosc
Smoldering white bones
There are breezes above the bones.
Remember the ataman dogs
Remember Polish Pans
Konarmeyskie our blades.

If our land is calm
New wars will pour
Heavy machine gun rain
On the road familiar
Beloved People's Commissar
We will lead the fighting horses. "

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: tihonmarine

Probably the gentlemen forgot the song -

Yes, how bae,
They have their own song on this score, about how they took Vilno and Kiev.
If in cho, they then drew the border much more east than even the British ordered them.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Jacket in stock

They have their own song on this score, about how they took Vilno and Kiev.

And where are these Vilno and Kiev, they also probably forgot.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: tihonmarine

And where are these Vilno and Kiev, they also probably forgot.

Well, yes, ours recaptured Kiev, and Vilno was with them until the Germans defeated them.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Jacket in stock

and Vilna was with them until the Germans defeated them.

On September 18, 1939, Vilna and the surrounding area were occupied by the Red Army. If the troops of the USSR did not enter Lithuania, then Vilnius, Druskininkai, Klaipeda, Nida, Trakai ... to this day would belong to Poland or Germany, but not to Lithuania. Today in Lithuania they don't talk about it and it is forbidden to talk about it. Russia is an occupier there.

[Aag]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Quote: tihonmarine

Probably the gentlemen forgot the song -

Yes, how bae,
They have their own song on this score, about how they took Vilno and Kiev.
If in cho, they then drew the border much more east than even the British ordered them.

... Yes, as it were, pshekov, they did not ask much ... Before ... Well, perhaps, perhaps, Mr. Zeman, and four tankers with a dog ...
And the cabbage soup, how it comes out ... We got it ...

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: tihonmarine

Probably the gentlemen forgot the song

How did this cavalry bravado end in 1920 - remind you?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

How did this cavalry bravado end in 1920 - remind you?

Well, the Poles did not defeat the Cavalry, but we all know about Tukhachevsky. But we have not forgotten anything, and how it ended from September 17 to October 5, 1939, we and the Poles also remember. But the Poles and our liberals really do not like this song.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: tihonmarine

But the Poles and our liberals really do not like this song.

and both of them just do not care about it. Maybe still remember
A swift avalanche -
Give Warsaw, give Berlin ..
??

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Maybe still remember
A swift avalanche -
Give Warsaw, give Berlin ..
??

No, I am an opponent of this action was and remain.

[clerk]

A swift avalanche -
Give Warsaw, give Berlin.

How much will you take?

[vik669]

we all know about Tukhachevsky - but from this place in more detail about yourself white fluffy and smelly - you can smell the smell and the rest about you we do not know everything, but partly for now ...!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vik669

we all know about Tukhachevsky

If they knew, they would have kept silent.

[GEOID]

Quote: tihonmarine

Remember Polish Pans
Konarmeyskie our blades.

Are you talking about this?
On August 29, the 1st Cavalry launched an attack on the fortified city of Zamoć. It was not possible to take the city on the move. The Polish command sent the 1st Cavalry Division (comm. Juliusz Rummel) to the rescue of the garrison. On August 31, in the area of ​​the village of Komarów (now Komarov) to the southeast of Zamoć, a major cavalry battle took place, which went down in history as the Battle of Komarov. The battle ended in a decisive victory for the Poles, the 1st Cavalry was forced to retreat and was soon withdrawn from the front. The Red Army began to retreat east ...
...... According to Russian sources, from 28 to 80 thousand Red Army soldiers out of 130 thousand who were captured by Poland died from extremely difficult conditions of detention - hunger, epidemic diseases and winter cold in the absence of proper heating of premises and clothing

[tihonmarine]

Quote: GEOID

The battle ended in a decisive victory for the Poles, the 1st Cavalry was forced to retreat and was soon withdrawn from the front. The Red Army began to retreat to the east.

"Decisive victory" is when the army is defeated, and the Cavalry withdrew, and was not defeated. Where was the advance if the front of Tukhachevsky collapsed.
Read the article on VO dated August 27, 2020, it is well described there.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: sabakina

and what, Lavrov cannot tell them two magic letters?

two letters will be enough, suppose?)

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: sabakina

Is that what everyone is fixated on this "territorial water"?

Why is everyone fixated on this "Sev.potok"? Here it has already turned into some kind of national fetish. Like, the man in the street gets up in the morning and first of all - "Lope there is a barrel of the day? And what about the" flow "?

[Aag]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Quote: sabakina

Is that what everyone is fixated on this "territorial water"?

Why is everyone fixated on this "Sev.potok"? Here it has already turned into some kind of national fetish. Like, the man in the street gets up in the morning and first of all - "Lope there is a barrel of the day? And what about the" flow "?

I wrote above that the interests of the oligarchy have been elevated to a national idea.
The main task of the RF Armed Forces is to defend
(at the expense of the entire population) the interests of a certain circle of "businessmen" (selling off people's wealth, achievements) ...
Minus! ... Only then do not be surprised - "how did this happen ?!"

[Fungus]

I think Russian warships will appear there in the near future.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Fungus

I think Russian warships will appear there in the near future.

In my opinion, the best option is joint patrolling with Germany.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

In my opinion, the best option is joint patrolling with Germany.

Yes, the Poles will not spoil the Germans.

[Brturin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, the Poles will not spoil the Germans.

So it will be possible to see when they will finish building in German waters (about 13 km. By the Age of Fortune.), And taking into account the bird flora, you do not fly around too much ... “In addition, when assessing the environment, it is necessary to take into account the low speed of pipelayers. Thus, the effect of the intervention is geographically limited "

[clerk]

In my opinion, the best option is joint patrolling with Germany.

The best option is a pair of massive and sturdy merchant ships flying the St. Andrew's flag armed with a pair of machine guns and leaning on any impudent person who dares to approach.

[dauria]

I think Russian warships will appear there in the near future.

What for ? Too bold, and more difficult to explain. You can also ram with an ordinary "fisherman". And insolently declare at the same time "I was denied control." The main thing is to demonstrate that this is not a joke. I walked into the two-mile zone - don't be offended. Technique "refusals" are not limited to Poles.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: dauria

What for ? Too bold

Why the hell do you need a fleet then? To prop up the walls and walk in parades? And so that the clever guys on the VO procrastinate on the topic "What kind of fleet does Russia need?"

[Aag]

Quote: dauria

I think Russian warships will appear there in the near future.

What for ? Too bold, and more difficult to explain. You can also ram with an ordinary "fisherman". And insolently declare at the same time "I was denied control." The main thing is to demonstrate that this is not a joke. I walked into the two-mile zone - don't be offended. Technique "refusals" are not limited to Poles.

While the psheks are demonstrating ...
And how many "fishermen" under the flag of the Russian Federation are there in the Baltic?

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Fungus

I think Russian warships will appear there in the near future.

Will not appear.

[Konstantin Gogolev]

Fighting swimmers should be sent there. I would be happy to give the spoils to those who are especially morose.

[Old tanker]

There, and the civilian rescuer "Karev" copes quite well. The case of the "Selfless" lives on!

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Konstantin Gogolev

Fighting swimmers should be sent there.

Yeah, maybe human torpedoes right away? Enough.

[Aag]

Quote: Konstantin Gogolev

Fighting swimmers should be sent there. I would be happy to give the spoils to those who are especially morose.

Have you seen enough series?
Return to earth ...
No, I understand, of course, it's more convenient, more pleasant ...
But ... alas ...

[Konstantin Gogolev]

I'm not saying that combat swimmers should take everyone with knives, but small sabotage (without 200, 300) would remind that the main thing for the state is the security and economic prosperity of its citizens. and for Poland, the main thing is that only the Muscovites feel worse. Apples did not teach, maybe "suddenly surfaced mines of the Second World War" will teach. I'm sure our specialists can work neatly. I am even sure that they themselves are only "for".

[Gennady Fomkin]

One gets the impression that the artificially created difficulties in the launch of Nord Stream 2 are intended to throw off unnecessary project participants after using their money. So that's it. Gazprom is already a 100% shareholder.

Thanks to Poland, by the way.

[Aag]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

One gets the impression that the artificially created difficulties in the launch of Nord Stream 2 are intended to throw off unnecessary project participants after using their money. So that's it. Gazprom is already a 100% shareholder.

Thanks to Poland, by the way.

By the way, an interesting thought ...
+ definitely ...

[Alien From]

Something Korotchenko does not inspire confidence in me ... at all

[rocket757]

The same psisa chatterbox, like many others.

[cniza]

He's just a populist and nothing more ...

[rocket757]

He says ... pleasant, for many, but in life the bad / good go alongside. Only their ratio changes.

[cniza]

These are then led to a wonderland, divorced from reality ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

The same psisa chatterbox, like many others.

And now, at least there are normal experts, and not "psits"? Like all woodpeckers.

[rocket757]

There is of course ... they do not like to invite them, there is a lot of truth, real assessments, they give, but it is unpleasant / dangerous.
In our situation, the truth is too wide limits !!! There are good things, but there are also many negative ones.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

There is of course ... they do not like to invite them, a lot of truth, real assessments

Well, I thought something like that.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: tihonmarine

And now, at least there are normal experts, and not "psits"? Like all woodpeckers.

Well, I don’t know, I sometimes listen to Khodarenka. The only listenable program on Vesti FM is the Hour of the Militarist with him. An interesting guy.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Well, I don’t know, I sometimes listen to Khodarenka.

I agree with you here.

[Aag]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Well, I don’t know, I sometimes listen to Khodarenka.

I agree with you here.

I join ... (against you or not)))

[210ox]

But I don't hear Zhirinovsky on this issue. Maybe Korotchenko began to voice it ..

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: 210ox

But I don't hear Zhirinovsky on this issue.

LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky on social networks called ...
Zhirinovsky urged to send ships of the Baltic Fleet to the construction zone and give them permission to open fire on any ships that ignore warnings.
“A couple of ships will go to the bottom - everyone will immediately calm down, no one else will interfere with their work. We need to teach these boors and adventurers a lesson once, they don’t understand another language, ”Zhirinovsky wrote.
Read more about provocations in the area of ​​the gas pipeline construction in the material of the joint venture Nord Stream 2: Polish pilots can frighten Fortuna, but then they will break into a cake. "

It is reported by Rambler. Further: https://news.rambler.ru/troops/46136864/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink

[210ox]

Thanks. I don’t look through Rambler. There are too many fake and perverted materials. But the fact that other resources were silent about it is strange.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

But I don't hear Zhirinovsky on this issue. Maybe Korotchenko began to voice it ..

You shouldn't be talking about Volfovich.
On April 02, 2021, according to the parliamentarian, it is easy to solve the problem - you need to allow the Baltic navy to set up guards for engineering ships and open fire on those who, despite warnings, approach the Russian ships.

"A couple of ships will go to the bottom - everyone will immediately calm down, no one else will interfere with their work. We need to teach these boors and adventurers a lesson once, they do not understand another language."

, - concluded Zhirinovsky.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: tihonmarine

it is necessary to allow the Baltic navy to set up guards for engineering ships and open fire on those who, despite warnings, approach the Russian ships.

Yeah, maybe Prigogine should get his own fleet? This is just a job for a PMC))

[Alien From]

Very unlikely, Volfovich is a completely different level.

[Runway]

Korotchenko is a political worker. The pipes are laid in the Danish and German EEZs. Dangerous maneuvering, "bulk" and so on - a crime, but not a reason. Steamships under our flag - a contract with PMCs for "protection" and "welcome to the bulk, which we regard as a pirate boarding, for which you need a couple of PG-7s in the superstructure or a long one with a PKM there too."
Guards, they are nervous people ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: WFP

Steamships under our flag - a contract with PMCs for the "protection

Denmark will not allow the presence of PMCs in their waters. But Denmark has defined a security zone, you can approach no closer than a mile and a half. Denmark should also enforce these rules. This is what the representatives of the Russian Foreign Ministry should indicate.

[Old tanker]

Goofy throatran.

[Looking for]

Korotchenko is a dark horse. "... there were claims in the press that Korotchenko has a very confusing biography. Some media outlets doubted that the well-known military expert was telling only the truth about the details of his service and, in particular, about the circumstances and reasons for his dismissal from Arguments are given that Korotchenko generally received the rank of colonel in the reserve illegally [12] [15] The circumstances of the dismissal of 34-year-old Korotchenko from the General Staff in 1994 are not completely clear, his age clearly did not fit a "retired". According to the press [who?], Korotchenko was dismissed with the rank of lieutenant colonel under subparagraph 2G of paragraph 2 of article 49 of the Federal Law "On conscription and military service." 1994]. There is information [what?] That Korotchenko, according to the conclusion of the attestation commission, ceased to correspond to the position of moral and psychological physical qualities ...

[Aag]

Quote: Alien From

Something Korotchenko does not inspire confidence in me ... at all

Pay attention to the number of pluses under your voiced thought ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

One gets the impression that the artificially created difficulties in the launch of Nord Stream 2 are intended to throw off unnecessary project participants after using their money. So that's it. Gazprom is already a 100% shareholder.

Thanks to Poland, by the way.

But now I looked in search, indeed Nord Stream 2 AG is 100% Gazprom.

But Nord Stream 2 AG is not the owner of the pipe, it is the builder + (possibly) the operator of the pipe in the future. And the SP-2 itself, as it was at 51% Gazprom, remained. Thank you more like them: Hallelujah.

[Deck]

And Gazprom, what is Motherland for you? The Russian Federation owns 50,23% of Gazprom's shares. By the way, ADR owns 25,20% (this is an American Depositary Receipt) That is, a quarter of Gazprom is American. That is, the Poles are organizing vile provocations against their masters. How!

[rocket757]

"Remind about Calibers": The expert proposed to ensure the protection of "Nord Stream-2" by ships of the Baltic Fleet

... No, no, this is still that expert ...
Here it is desirable advice / suggestions from people who are serious, sane, and not from other talkers.

[cniza]

Well, yes, there are many who just grab onto the calibers right away ...

[rocket757]

This particular psisa has been known for a long time .... a chatterbox.
Why bring such people here, I don’t understand.

[cniza]

He broadcasts on TV, says what many people like, not how it is, as some would like ...

[Terenin]

Welcome
There is a continuation of the anecdote voiced by Putin about how the son of a former officer changed his father's dagger for a watch.
The man explained to his son how such an exchange could turn out if robbers and bandits came to the house

"... they will kill me, my mother will be killed, your elder sister will be raped. And you will go out and say: good evening, Moscow time 12 hours 30 minutes"

Here, the main characters were not father and son, but V. Putin and S. Shoigu

"Putin and Shoigu are talking.
Putin addresses Shoigu with the question: "What time is it?"
Shoigu replies: "I don't know, I have a dagger."

[mvg]

Eksperd ... why is he going to shoot Halibras ?? In Poland? NATO country? Onshore facilities? 1500 km range of action 3M14, land version.
The Experts are divorced, they talk with equal seriousness about Covid-19, pregnancy at 16, Zircon rockets, MAPL 855M and the Tunguska meteorite. The main thing is that BEFORE the start of the program they say the topic ... and then screams will begin to hoarse .. to interrupt and call your opponent - the rule of "good form"
PS: But aviation engineering education ... aviation technician in general.

[Old tanker]

The caliber also has an anti-carriage version. But the croaker Korotchenko is not worth listening to. Moreover, the rescuer "Karev" can cope without any weapons. Naval - the peaceful weapon of the Russians has now been tested by the Poles, in pursuit of the Amer and the Ukrainians.

[petrol cutter]

Bulk, like other rams ... Very dubious and unpleasant events. Produced from utter despair.
In addition, how would it be then not to carry out rescue operations of their people, ships. After unsuccessful bulkheads and other violations of shipping rules. Yes, they shouldn't have stayed either ...
It seems like someone crashed into "Liman". Steamer flood. And silence.........

[mvg]

The caliber also has an anti -arable version.

It has, only this is 3M54, from 300 to 500 km, it remains in the Baltic Fleet to find the Caliber-NK carrier, which will give the control center for this range ... probably the MRK Odintsovo ... or a couple of diesel engines that exist.
If the pshek were instructed to sabotage the SP-2, then they will do it. A small sabotage .. some kind of ecological disaster. Then "green", "blue" will catch up. "orange" and the construction site will rise again before the trail of navigation or salmon spawning ..

[Gennady Fomkin]

Russian winters are not canceled by any rules. All this is brainwashed for the humanities. 

[Cowbra]

The Turks, for example, are quietly escorting research vessels off Cyprus by the fleet. I don’t understand at all, fuck we need such a fleet, if even in such situations it sits at home. Let me remind you that 10 years ago there was a hack of fishermen in the English Channel - on the same day both the French and British navies rushed to the point.
Pisi, but Caliber is not needed, a burst from a machine gun on the course - it very cools

[210ox]

What can I say .. "Man in a case." In the Kremlin.

[jeka424]

To use a caliber against some kind of schooner boat is the right decision))))

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: jeka424

To use a caliber against some kind of schooner boat is the right decision))))

))
exactly) But in general -

[Gennady Fomkin]

Regular provocations in the Baltic Sea against the construction of Nord Stream 2 may entail interference in the situation of the Russian navy. This was announced on April 2 by Vladimir Bogdashin, head of the Central Command Post of the Russian Navy for Combat Control (1999-2007), on the Russia 24 TV channel. the hunt for somal began ... Polish filibusters

[jonht]

There is no need for the military, I think there will be enough sea tugs of ice class. Their ice belt withstands impacts and piles well, everything is recorded on video and in court for maritime accidents. And the Loyds will not drive me to get on with the consideration, otherwise they may lose their status acquired over the years and many will begin to repeat such maneuvers and demand the same attitude.
And this may already affect the observance of the ISPS-72, the international rules for the convergence of ships.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: mvg

Eksperd ... why is he going to shoot Halibras ?? In Poland? NATO country? Onshore facilities? 1500 km range of action 3M14, land version.
The Experts are divorced, they talk with equal seriousness about Covid-19, pregnancy at 16, Zircon rockets, MAPL 855M and the Tunguska meteorite. The main thing is that BEFORE the start of the program they say the topic ... and then screams will begin to hoarse .. to interrupt and call your opponent - the rule of "good form"
PS: But aviation engineering education ... aviation technician in general.

He is an "official" Minus

[Tank hard]

Russia needs to solve the problems with provocations around Nord Stream 2 through diplomatic means, and if such a decision is impossible to take military measures. This was stated by the editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko on the air of the 60 minutes program.

Here they write about:

According to him, there will be enough oil in Russia for another 58 years. At the same time, Kiselev stressed that this calculation is based on the current level of technology development, and with their development, the term will be postponed.

[media =https://news.mail.ru/society/45808959/?frommail=1&exp_id=902]
I don't know if it's true or not. But all this dance around the desire to "cheaply" give resources (including gas) to the West for the development of its economy, delivers ...

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Well, we send ships to the Gulf of Aden for the safety of navigation. And how, by and large, are Pshechs different from Somali Gopniks?

[xorek]

Russians, of German descent, support Russia or they will completely omit you.
After all, there are a lot of you there yet? Or have already begun to scatter ..

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

With all due respect to I. Korotchenko, but it was necessary to think about it earlier. And it was necessary to think - to GAZprom. They knew very well that they would be faced with all sorts of attacks from all sorts of odiots. Now, let the fleet decide what and how best to do it. And jokers have to "think". Time wasted thanks to "effective managers" ... (

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Well, we send ships to the Gulf of Aden for the safety of navigation. And how, by and large, are Pshechs different from Somali Gopniks?

There "others" will do better

[cniza]

Particular zeal is expressed by Poland, whose vessel tried to ram the supply ship Vladimir Strizhev. In Warsaw itself, all charges are denied.

Let them deny, but the actions will have to be answered on the face ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Tank Hard

Russia needs to solve the problems with provocations around Nord Stream 2 through diplomatic means, and if such a decision is impossible to take military measures. This was stated by the editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko on the air of the 60 minutes program.

Here they write about:

According to him, there will be enough oil in Russia for another 58 years. At the same time, Kiselev stressed that this calculation is based on the current level of technology development, and with their development, the term will be postponed.

[media =https://news.mail.ru/society/45808959/?frommail=1&exp_id=902]
I don't know if it's true or not. But all this dance around the desire to "cheaply" give resources (including gas) to the West for the development of its economy, delivers ...

Understand this "pipe" is actually the barrel of the Tsar of the cannon from which they will be shot, but then

[Tank hard]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Understand this "pipe" is actually the barrel of the Tsar of the cannon from which they will be shot, but then

Apparently I'm stupid, but so far this is a persistent feeling of the barrel of a pistol from which they periodically shoot at my own leg ...

[Avior]

We don't even need to enter the territorial waters of Denmark or any other country: the Kalibr cruise missiles allow us to strike at a distance of up to 1 kilometers

- he added.

Strong expert!
against the background of attacks by calibers on NATO, entry into the territorial waters of Denmark will pass under the column "minor minor violations"

[Soldatov V.]

It is necessary to pit the German navy against the Polish. The Germans need to firmly explain that with the loss of Nord Stream 2, no one will return their money, and they will also be billed for indulging criminals in the German economic zone.

[Prisoner]

That would be hefty garneau. Poles are still afraid of the Fritzes until now.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Avior

We don't even need to enter the territorial waters of Denmark or any other country: the Kalibr cruise missiles allow us to strike at a distance of up to 1 kilometers

- he added.

Strong expert!
against the background of attacks by calibers on NATO, entry into the territorial waters of Denmark will pass under the column "minor minor violations"

Ayya.yayay What is a radish

[Vasyan1971]

through diplomatic means, and in case of impossibility of such a decision, take military measures.

No matter how late it would be by that time ...

[Zaurbek]

What a miracle expert ..... who appointed him an expert?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Understand this "pipe" is actually the barrel of the Tsar of the cannon from which they will be shot, but then

Apparently I'm stupid, but so far this is a persistent feeling of the barrel of a pistol from which they periodically shoot at my own leg ...

Recently, a court in the United States seized the Craig Valley Plaza shopping center from the ownership of the former owner of the Cherkizovsky market Telman Ismailov, who is on the international wanted list for committing serious crimes. The first one went.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

The first one went.

Duc. is he the first one?

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Recently, a court in the United States seized the Craig Valley Plaza shopping center from the ownership of the former owner of the Cherkizovsky market Telman Ismailov, who is on the international wanted list for committing serious crimes.

To each his own...

[Alex Nevs]

It is high time for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to have on board plywood calibers on polyethylene and sticks (and missiles would not hurt) and everything on Chinese semi-finished products, such as unidentified drones in Syria. And then let them figure out where and who.

[Gennady Fomkin]

- In the Orenburg region on February 23, 2021 (Defender of the Fatherland Day) an explosion occurred on the Soyuz gas pipeline. The Soyuz gas pipeline was built in 1975-79 by the Soviet Union together with Bulgaria, Hungary, the German Democratic Republic, Poland, Romania and Czechoslovakia. It passes through the territory of Russia, Kazakhstan and Ukraine along the route: Orenburg - Uralsk - Aleksandrov Gai - GIS "Sokhranovka" (border of Russia and Ukraine) - Kremenchug - Dolina - Uzhgorod. The throughput capacity is 26 billion cubic meters of gas per year. "

In 2020, there were six accidents on gas pipelines. The first was in February on a looping (parallel gas pipeline to increase capacity) of the Yamburg - Western Border of the USSR (Progress) trunk gas pipeline in the Perm Territory;

the second - in March at the Nadym - Punga-1 gas trunkline in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug;

the third - in July at the Saratov-Gorky gas pipeline;

the fourth - in July at the Pochinki-Izobilnoye gas pipeline branch;

the fifth, in November, at the Yamburg - Western Border of the USSR gas trunkline in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug;

the sixth - in December in the Sverdlovsk region on the Igrim - Serov - Nizhny Tagil gas pipeline.

In 2019, there were 7 more accidents on gas pipelines.
PS All the above information on accidents on Russian gas pipelines was obtained from open news sources. The author does not claim that all accidents are related to terrorist activities.

But he hints that not everything is clear.

[Gennady Fomkin]

All gas pipelines are banging. And if you pump hydrogen there, they will bang even more beautifully.  https://rgk-palur.ru/big-accident-on-gas-oil-pipelines-in-the-us-and-canada/

[Gennady Fomkin]

"Blues" with "blacks" have been at war for a long time. And now also with the "green" (which, highlighted like, the creature of the "black").

Methane, as an energy carrier and raw material for fuel and energy complex with polymer chemistry, is ideal. Fast and cheap reproduction, easy purification from impurities, environmental friendliness, stable composition of feedstock and, as a result, unification of production equipment and processes. 

Cherry on a cake - cheap transportation. Somewhere around here, Roman Smirnov laid out data on Europe, where the transportation of megawatt * hours through pipelines was almost 15 times cheaper than power lines. 

Competitors have to naturally jump out of their pants and use all their sabotage and political resources.

[Incvizitor]

On TV there are said 100500 pieces, I see no reason to write articles on each pearl of local "experts"

[Antagonist]

Russia needs to solve problems with provocations around Nord Stream 2 through diplomatic means

How many times have we tried to solve any problem deep by way? Does not work.

[Prisoner]

Why shake the air in vain? Nobody will use rockets on these goats. They will not stop provoking anything until they can afford to hit this freak. Let them think like Poles for mosh ... well, squeeze economically, and not rattle with rockets.

[Antagonist]

Warsaw must "show sobriety" in assessing the situation

Warsaw will not assess the situation soberly, since they feel Washington's support behind them.

[Antagonist]

Russia has another way out - to remind about the Russian "Calibers" and to ensure the protection of the pipeline construction by the ships of the Baltic Fleet

I agree that it is necessary to ensure the protection of the SP-2. I had to do it right away. But better late than never.

[Antagonist]

In Warsaw itself, all charges are denied.

Two-faced А Januses

[Ros 56]

And that apart from Korotchenko, no one in the Moscow Region and Gazprom had enough brains for this?

[tralflot1832]

Just to blurt out something, otherwise if ours send a warship to the pipelaying zone, the warship will have to be practically in drift. It's easier to bring the strike group nearby so that there is an opportunity to maneuver, and turn on the radar to lock on to the target when necessary. Think NATO. If you want to shoot? It's easier for us to strengthen the grouping of supply vessels, and they are all ice class. Two pieces on the sides, I think it will be enough for a pipelayer and to fly over the area of ​​construction of North Stream 2 with aviation. We will always have time to shoot.

[Brturin]

Quote: tralflot1832

It's easier for us to strengthen the grouping of supply vessels, and they are all ice class. Two pieces on the sides, I think it will be enough for a pipelayer to fly over the area of ​​construction of North Stream 2

So it is possible that the Poles provoke the arrival of warships in this zone, in order to further stir up the fuss ... Alternatively, after the arrival of the military, the Poles will begin their song even louder, that under this cover - pipeline on the bottom of the Baltic Sea, could allow the Kremlin to place surveillance devices, ”writes a spokesman for the Polish press services. He gives examples that people think this way not only in Warsaw.
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/04/01/specsluzhby-polshi-severnyy-potok-2-pozvolit-rossii-sledit-na-baltike
And the planes, for now, yes, and more to the German bird sanctuary, they will close their eyes, and they will raise the Russian howl about poor birds ... Icebreakers, video recording and constant work of inspection ships over the paved area until the Stornes-type stone-laying vessels pass .. ..

[lopuhan2006]

What kind of xperd? What Calibers? Is Poland a NATO member? What calibers! What kind of populism at the patriotic level? The SP-2 has enough forces and ships to guard and prevent such incidents.

[Ru_Na]

The Danish and German navies must first of all ensure safety, since the pipes are laid in their waters! Copenhagen and Berlin must unequivocally make it clear to Warsaw that for the sake of Washington's wishes it is not worth crossing certain red lines, because the United States is overseas, and they are right there, and if something happens, Poland will be boo!

[Jaromir]

Commenting on the situation with Poland's provocations in the construction zone of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, he said that the Russian Security Council needs to hold a series of consultations through closed channels with a similar Polish agency to prevent possible incidents.

If consultations, and so most likely will happen, do not help? What then? Firing a bomb on the Poles?
It is necessary to conduct consultations with Washington, not with Poland. Only the United States has leverage on Poland.

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: sabakina

As far as I understand, the pipeline is being laid in an "economic zone" free for navigation.

The passage of warships through the Sound is free, but the presence of warships both in the waterways and in the Danish economic zone is coordinated through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

UN Charter （1982） Warships in a foreign economic zone have the right to carry out a naval presence and daily activities in accordance with the UN Charter, the maritime right of passage applies only to the territorial waters of a coastal state, any attempt of this state to spread the rules of passage on the！ free economic zone！ is not legal and has no legal basis. That's something like this. Denmark has no right to prohibit. Psheks like them use it.

[czes]

The muddy type is being promoted.

[petrol cutter]

Comrade Korotchenko is, in principle, a sane man. And as a rule, it communicates wise thoughts. They have visited me for a long time.

[Kelwin]

Any of the participants who are in the subject has an excellent idea of ​​how the project is supported.
Why, Igor, why flog nonsense? Well, show your new boobs on the TV box. Why is this heresy about calibers?

At the same time, he stressed that this does not require entering the territorial waters of other countries, since the Caliber is a long-range cruise missile.

Do you really want war? it will be so soon, because of such "experts" ...

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Quote: sabakina

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Why is everyone fixated on this "Sev.potok"? Here it has already turned into some kind of national fetish. Like, the man in the street gets up in the morning and first of all - "Lope there is a barrel of the day? And what about the" flow "?

Then I look at your comments that you don’t have any interest in this topic

[George Koval]

Anything that provokes a ram, decisively drown!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Deck

And Gazprom, what is Motherland for you? The Russian Federation owns 50,23% of Gazprom's shares. By the way, ADR owns 25,20% (this is an American Depositary Receipt) That is, a quarter of Gazprom is American. That is, the Poles are organizing vile provocations against their masters. How!

Was yours, became ours

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: KelWin

Any of the participants who are in the subject has an excellent idea of ​​how the project is supported.
Why, Igor, why flog nonsense? Well, show your new boobs on the TV box. Why is this heresy about calibers?

At the same time, he stressed that this does not require entering the territorial waters of other countries, since the Caliber is a long-range cruise missile.

Do you really want war? it will be so soon, because of such "experts" ...

Lenin, take away the dixperd

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

fucking logic - first the world was put on the brink of this catastrophe, and then dragged away from the edge - wisdom beats over the edge, yeah. Keeping the world hostage to your phallometric chimeras is a "level"?

Paragraph What are you talking about？ The phrase is to keep the world in your phallus...... chimeras are a level？ The Cold War （1962）is a confrontation between two world systems（they are the deployment of missiles with nuclear weapons in Turkey）response Cuba. I add your adequate comments, but on this topic

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Petrol cutter

Comrade Korotchenko is, in principle, a sane man. And as a rule, it communicates wise thoughts. They have visited me for a long time.

You know, when such “thoughts” come to you, I’m scared

[Gennady Fomkin]

No, a pipe is 99% a long-term contract with fixed investments/prices/volumes - stockbrokers have no business here... and “these” want to make gas an exchange commodity on spots This is just a way to determine the price. If the price is lower than cost, then the valve can be closed.

[Gennady Fomkin]

the service life (according to the passport) of the pipe is 50+ years... naturally, all investments are given and included in a long-term contract with all the obligations of both the supplier and the buyer, this is the meaning of a long-term contract... and the exchange product (oil) for futures is the same In general, it is not tied to physical oil in any way, but nevertheless, exchange manipulations also affect the gas price, although with a delay of six months and not so directly

but they want to make gas an exchange product with trading on spots - so that any woodpecker on the exchange can change the price as he pleases (simplifying) in his bullish or bearish charisma. We need to give Lavrov an idea, let him troll - there for 2 years everyone will be having fits)) )) and SP2 will be completed - a private project with huge funds ALREADY spent (private)

[Andrey Korotkov]

[quote=Gennady Fomkin
You know, when such “thoughts” come to you, I’m scared [/quote] You Gennady watch less TV, it will be less scary. Similar thoughts apparently passed you by

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

No, the pipe is 99% a long-term contract with fixed investments\prices\volumes. If the price is lower than cost, then the valve can be closed.

Analyst, it’s good that you are not in power

[Nikolay Donskov]

Here's about the so-called expert - https://youtu.be/fU8ubzN89kw

[Nikolaevich I]

Found an "authority"! Korotchenko! This “frame” has long been considered by serious experts as a TRAP!