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Polish media: Russia will not be able to establish water supply in Crimea

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None of the actions of the Russian Federation allegedly could improve the situation with water on the Crimean peninsula. And in a number of countries, they believe that problems with water supply will further worsen in the future.


This opinion was expressed by the editor-in-chief of the Polish-Ukrainian portal, Dr. Dariusz Materniak, in an interview with BiznesAlert.

He believes that a significant deterioration in the water situation on the peninsula should be expected this year. At the same time, Russia, says Maternyak to the Polish media, will not be able to establish water supply in Crimea. The Polish expert claims that the drilling of artesian wells, the laying of a water pipeline across the Crimean bridge, the launch of desalination plants are not able to change the situation for the better.

He calls the measures taken by the Russian Federation ineffective. The expert believes that only Ukrainian aid can save the Crimeans from dehydration, because until 2014 85 percent of the water supplied to the peninsula from the mainland of Ukraine. To get enough water again, Russia, according to the Polish doctor, must negotiate with Kiev.

Maternyak hopes that the activity of the so-called "Crimean platform", created by Kiev to "de-occupy" the peninsula, will help solve the problem. He does not yet know whether Russia will take part in this organization, but he assumes that Moscow will not get involved in this process.

Commenting on these statements, it is worth recalling that they talked about the construction of the Crimean bridge, about the creation of power plants in Crimea, about the development of road transport infrastructure. However, there is also traffic on the bridge, and the bridge itself "was not demolished by ice hummocks", and power plants generate energy, and you can get from Kerch to Sevastopol by an excellent road. That is why the Polish "doctors" can broadcast their fables further, which does not prevent the development of the Russian Crimea in any way. And the problem with water will also eventually be resolved, whether Kiev wants it or not.
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  1. Flooding
    Flooding April 2 2021 15: 19
    +9
    Sooner or later, a desalination station will have to be built.
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 2 2021 15: 27
      -8
      ... And it is best to build it in Novaya Kakhovka.
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 2 2021 16: 32
        0
        And then why? If only completely turn into a swamp.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN April 2 2021 17: 02
          +9
          Polish media: Russia will not be able to establish water supply in Crimea
          The Crimean bridge, too, said that we could not .. And then if anything, suddenly we will not have time to do earthwork, we will resort to the help of Polish migrant workers with shovels, he will go faster.
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        2. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 April 2 2021 17: 11
          0
          I'm talking about the locks to the Crimean Canal. The cheapest "desalination plant", through which in good years 80% of the fresh water of the whole Crimea was supplied.
    2. xorek
      xorek April 2 2021 15: 29
      +2
      Nothing is impossible for Russian! They will drive a powerful water supply along the line of the Kerchinsky bridge, but this takes time. But desalination plants, I think not!
      Although I think they are waiting for Kiev to be covered with a copper basin and then they will calmly let the water in .. This is the best option, but a backup option is definitely needed for our Crimea, for such cases ..!
      Soon it will start, I think the US junta is already whipping up a conflict with Russia ..
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy April 2 2021 15: 38
        +26
        To listen to Poles, do not respect yourself. hi
        1. Alien From
          Alien From April 2 2021 17: 08
          +7
          Poles in the Smolensk forest
          1. 210ox
            210ox April 2 2021 18: 52
            +1
            It is also possible on a shorter route - to the Smolensk airfield. How many of them are buried there in the Smolensk land. Since the 17th century.
            1. Alien From
              Alien From April 2 2021 19: 58
              +5
              I know this firsthand, my fiefdom hi
              1. 210ox
                210ox April 2 2021 20: 10
                +2
                Well, then we come from the same patrimony.
          2. Aviator_
            Aviator_ April 2 2021 19: 39
            +4
            Poles in the Smolensk forest

            In the Kostroma forest. There they have been wandering for 400 years
        2. Looking for
          Looking for April 3 2021 17: 39
          0
          Poles will support anyone hostile to Russia.
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 2 2021 15: 47
        +9
        Quote: xorek
        Nothing is impossible for Russian! A powerful water pipeline will be driven along the line of the Kerchinsky bridge

        It was discussed. Not an option No. ... The south of Russia, the Krasnodar and Stavropol territories themselves, the available water resources are barely enough.

        And the bridge is not "Kerchinsky", but Crimean although I would call it Russian.
        1. barclay
          barclay April 2 2021 16: 06
          +2
          I agree. The problem of water supply needs to be addressed not only in Crimea, but, practically, along the entire Black Sea coast. There are problems with water everywhere.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich April 2 2021 17: 49
            +2
            Quote: barclay
            I agree. The problem of water supply needs to be addressed not only in Crimea, but, practically, along the entire Black Sea coast. There are problems with water everywhere.

            partly the problem is solved by waste water treatment and max. their reuse - for watering, for returning to the area of ​​artez decompression funnels. water intakes: experimental work in the Crimea is already underway.
            1. onstar9
              onstar9 April 4 2021 04: 45
              -5
              Quote: Olgovich
              partly the problem is solved by waste water treatment and max. their reuse - for watering, for returning to the area of ​​artez decompression funnels. water intakes: experimental work in the Crimea is already underway.

              Let them learn to drink urine. The authorities have already done everything with the people of Russia, there is only this left .... It's time to start "experimental work" ...
        2. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz April 2 2021 16: 13
          +5
          On the Reporter website, when discussing the situation of the water supply in Crimea, someone voiced information about the pollution of the Dnieper water, up to radiation and chemistry. Do you have information on this?
          And if so, would not such water be more expensive for itself?
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 2 2021 16: 21
            +6
            Quote: Hagalaz
            On the Reporter website, when discussing the situation of the water supply in Crimea, someone voiced information about the pollution of the Dnieper water, up to radiation and chemistry. Do you have information on this?
            And if so, would not such water be more expensive for itself?

            Where from? I'm not an ecologist request .
            We ourselves live in a problematic region in terms of water supply, as it was even during the Soviet era.
            But then someone was doing something, and in the period from 1991 to 2014, the Outskirts in the communal services only patched holes, and then not in a hurry.

            And then the war, shelling, interruptions, well, in general, all the "delights" ...

            For example, I'm also interested in Mariupol, " at the European outskirts "- does the tap water still stink of fish and ooze?
          2. bobba94
            bobba94 April 2 2021 16: 57
            +2
            About 2 years ago I read an article by a Ukrainian environmental scientist in which he says that in 10 years the Dnieper water can be used as a raw material for the production of mineral fertilizers
            1. onstar9
              onstar9 April 4 2021 04: 46
              -3
              Quote: bobba94
              About 2 years ago I read an article by a Ukrainian environmental scientist in which he says that in 10 years the Dnieper water can be used as a raw material for the production of mineral fertilizers

              Well, without water and "fertilizer" they will eat ...
          3. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 April 2 2021 17: 03
            +1
            pollution of the Dnieper water, up to radiation and chemistry
            .... given the fact that the Pripyat flows into the Dnieper and on the banks of the Pripyat the object is falling apart Shelter aka Sarcophagus aka the 4th unit of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, this is not fiction, and even the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant throws up ... but in figs this SCC is not even needed without this reason
            1. Hagalaz
              Hagalaz April 2 2021 17: 35
              +6
              Then we ourselves are just right to build a dam at the entrance. And then the squares when they vchuhayut that without them is good, they can, on the contrary, raise the dampers and even add nasty things to those waters. It will always be possible to make a mess of them.
            2. Brturin
              Brturin April 2 2021 17: 51
              0
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              taking into account the fact that the Pripyat flows into the Dnieper

              This is for now ... the Poles are pushing the idea of ​​the Dnieper-Vistula waterway (E40 - connecting the Baltic with the Black Sea - Vistula, Western Bug, Pripyat and Dnieper)
              Moreover, Kiev will be able to aggravate the deplorable state of its waterway if it concludes a contract with Poland for the construction of the Dnieper-Vistula navigable canal. In this case, the authorities will raise contaminated radioactive silt from the Dnieper and Pripyat, and then the ecosystem of the river is doomed. https://riafan.ru/1415154-stalo-izvestno-kak-kiev-povliyal-na-ischeznovenie-velichaishei-reki-evropy
      3. private person
        private person April 2 2021 15: 58
        -2
        Although I think they are waiting for Kiev to be covered with a copper basin and then they will calmly let the water go

        Or maybe not wait and just tear the dam by accident? Or, alternatively, using directional drilling to drill a well under the dam.
      4. 210ox
        210ox April 2 2021 16: 34
        +2
        Where did the water come from along the bridge? From the Kuban? Yes, everything is shallow here, as in the Crimea.
      5. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 2 2021 21: 24
        +4
        Quote: xorek
        Although I think they are waiting for Kiev to be covered with a copper basin and then they will calmly let the water in ...

        Now, in principle, it is better not to let Ukrainian water into the Crimean canal, even if this initiative comes from Kuev, because the whole stoned part of this tribe "skipopota" will rush to shit into the canal and throw it all sorts of sewage and poison from chlorine to potassium permanganate , so that this water would be unfit for consumption. In order to provide the peninsula with water, we need about 10 billion rubles, and meanwhile, the budget of this under-state officially receives from Russia from 6 to 10 billion dollars... The difference in the rates of currencies received from us by Ukraine and the ones we need to resolve the issue of water supply is more than obvious. They cut off the water to Crimea, we need to cut off the sources of income coming from our territory to Ukraine. Let them suck on Biden's paw. Although for this "privilege" they will have to fight with the Balts and Poles.
    3. Vend
      Vend April 2 2021 15: 32
      +7
      Russia will not be able to establish water supply in Crimea
      Of course we cannot, just as we could not build the Crimean bridge laughing I see the story continues, now a bunch of emissions will begin, and then everything will quietly fade when the problem is solved, as it was during the construction of the Crimean bridge
      1. onstar9
        onstar9 April 4 2021 04: 54
        -3
        Quote: Wend
        Of course we cannot, just as we could not build the Crimean bridge.I see the story continues, now a bunch of emissions will begin, and then everything will quietly fade when the problem is solved, as it was during the construction of the Crimean bridge

        We can, of course .... But then we must abandon the construction of "Palaces for Vova" and "the world's largest yacht Usmanov" .... And other "private planes for transporting Sechin's dogs" and the first place in the world in the number of billionaires ... Then there would be enough money to run a pipe from Lake Baikal and distribute golden "brushes" to everyone in the Crimea .... But what kind of "fig" is it for Vova, Rotenberg, Sechin and other oligarchs. Everyone supports Vova anyway. Look, on Dombas, the situation is even worse, but everyone is happy. And you're talking about water for the toilet ...
    4. svp67
      svp67 April 2 2021 15: 40
      +6
      Quote: Flood
      Sooner or later, a desalination station will have to be built.

      The money for this has already been allocated and there are companies that have undertaken to solve this problem.
    5. Cowbra
      Cowbra April 2 2021 15: 43
      +5
      Quote: Flood
      Sooner or later, a desalination station will have to be built.

      And there are no options. In the long term, a nuclear power plant is needed - energy and water in one bottle. In the sense that energy from the nuclear power plant - at least fill up, desalination plants for it - the very thing.
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 April 2 2021 16: 37
        .
        NPP, you say you need it?
        Crimeans will be delighted with such a proposal.
        Remind you that the construction of the Crimean nuclear power plant began in 1975? And what was the reaction of the residents of Crimea to this epoch-making event? Because of which, in particular, this landmark project was fucked up?
        And how are you going to cool the reactor core? Salty water will not work. Fresh is needed, which is already in short supply. But the size of the cooling pond is considerable, I had the good fortune to admire this structure in Chernobyl.
        Are you familiar with the expression "vicious circle"?
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra April 2 2021 16: 41
          +4
          Remind you that when they began to build in 1975 - no one objected, and the American "ecologists" threw hysterics much later, and, interestingly, they did not arrange a Sabbath in the United States for the closure of American nuclear power plants?
          About other nonsense, which you have deigned to invent, look where this very nuclear power plant was built, and what kind of water it was proposed to use there as a cooler.
          So again, the fairy tale about the officer's daughter did not pass
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 April 2 2021 17: 27
            .
            Here it is, Mikhalych!
            It turns out that the American "environmentalists" are to blame for everything!
            It turns out that there was no dissatisfaction with the construction of a nuclear power plant on the peninsula of the Crimean residents.
            According to various sources, from 200 to 350 thousand signatures of citizens against this project were not collected.
            There were no speeches by famous scientists, professors, writers and ecologists from Moscow, Leningrad and the Urals about Shchelkino.
            There was no initiative of the Association "Ecology and Peace", there were no publications in the Soviet press, there were no pickets.
            There was nothing.
            Then the question arises: what, in that case, was taken to the Central Committee of the CPSU of the USSR? What is the package of documents?
            After that, on October 25, 1989, the Council of Ministers of the USSR adopted a resolution on the conversion of the Crimean NPP under construction into a Training Complex for the training of operating and maintenance personnel of nuclear power plants?
            Not mythical American "environmentalists" made this decision, we note. And the Council of Ministers of the Soviet Union.
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra April 2 2021 17: 49
              +5
              Yes, yes, also tell me why this allegedly Crimean organization "Ecology and Peace" is trying hard to say who actually founded it, who financed it, and all the time until it, without even changing the signboard, was either Soviet or Crimean-republican , then Ukrainian, now painted in Russian? Maybe just because Soros was a sponsor and remained?
              And in connection with this, the question arises - what kind of "package of documents" did they take there? Probably design documentation with a practical scientific and technical justification for the inexpediency of building a nuclear power plant? Oh no, because in this organization there has never been a single scientist, but on the contrary, there were only "public figures", recruited at the nearest shop according to the principle, who bawls louder that "Briand is the head"? And from the justifications only that salt water is not at all suitable for cooling, by the way, tell this to the Japanese, they have all nuclear power plants on the shore of a very blue sea-okiyana
              1. Cosm22
                Cosm22 April 2 2021 18: 27
                -6
                Oh no?
                That is, there was no "scientific and technical substantiation of Soviet experts on the inexpediency of building a nuclear power plant" in this package?
                What happened?
                On what basis did the supreme body of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics decide to freeze the KNPP?
                What happened???
                Is it really the demand of American "environmentalists"?
                Would you like to say that some unfortunate American "environmentalists" put ultimatums and dictated their will to the mighty USSR, which we are still equal to and whose indicators we still cannot reach? And this happened at the very moment when, as everyone was well aware, there were two equal political, economic and military poles in the world? And when did the USSR not go along with anyone?
                What kind of American "ecologists" are these, whose demands the USSR Council of Ministers was forced to obey and close the construction site?
                You, my friend, do not speak for an hour?
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 2 2021 19: 27
                  -2
                  This is how the money will be built in the Crimea, a nuclear power plant with BN 1200, but this is in the future, but the water problem and the available forces will overcome the water supply infrastructure, they build water intakes, they drill, they put desalination plants, etc.
            2. poquello
              poquello April 3 2021 00: 28
              0
              Quote: Cosm22
              On October 25, 1989, the Council of Ministers of the USSR adopted a resolution on the conversion of the Crimean NPP under construction into a Training Complex for the training of operating and maintenance personnel of nuclear power plants

              oh .., and what else was that in 89m, and then what -
              "In 1989, more than 100 members of the CPSU Central Committee were sent to retire by Gorbachev"
        2. Brturin
          Brturin April 2 2021 16: 51
          +2
          Quote: Cosm22
          Salty water will not work. Fresh is needed, which is already in short supply.

          Academician Lomonosov somehow costs nothing in the salty sea. Why a large nuclear power plant, when nuclear power plants with low-power reactors have appeared, in Yakutia they are going to build one on "land" .. 200 MW ... if additional energy demand arises, then after the construction of one nuclear power plant, a second or a third can be built. https://iz.ru/300/vladimir-veretennikov/svetlye-golovy-v-estonii-zadumalis-ob-atomnoi-elektrostantcii
          The question is timing, but water is needed now ...
        3. 210ox
          210ox April 2 2021 18: 12
          +2
          You do not understand the operation of a nuclear power plant. No offense. At power plants and fresh water will not go. Water is specially prepared in the chemical. workshop. And in Shchelkino, the station was lost in the wake of the Chernobyl syndrome. Yes, and the YPPU there should have been completely different than at the KNPP.
        4. onstar9
          onstar9 April 4 2021 04: 58
          -1
          Quote: Cosm22
          NPP, you say you need it?
          Crimeans will be delighted with such a proposal.
          Remind you that the construction of the Crimean nuclear power plant began in 1975? And what was the reaction of the residents of Crimea to this epoch-making event? Because of which, in particular, this landmark project was fucked up?
          And how are you going to cool the reactor core? Salty water will not work. Fresh is needed, which is already in short supply. But the size of the cooling pond is considerable, I had the good fortune to admire this structure in Chernobyl.
          Are you familiar with the expression "vicious circle"?

          Nothing, they'll do it in salt water. Russian developers have done something else for their penny wages ... These fools would only be given "work", at least for free. The gallows for themselves of the "new design" will hammer, "unparalleled" ...
    6. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 2 2021 15: 51
      0
      Quote: Flood
      Sooner or later, a desalination station will have to be built.

      Damn ... We need to think about capital construction of a water conduit, or ... There was such information on the North Crimean Canal:
      The North Crimean Canal is the longest of such structures in Europe - the length of the main channel exceeds 402 km, and the total length of all pipelines and branches is 11000 km. The depth is also impressive - up to 7 m, and the full width of the North Crimean Canal - up to 150 m, at full capacity it is capable of producing up to 380 cubic meters. m per second.

      Is there a desalination station of similar capacity in the world?
      The most powerful desalination plants are located in the Middle East. An example of the largest desalination system is Shoabia 3 (west coast of Saudi Arabia), producing 880 cubic meters. m of fresh water per day or 000 m³ / s.

      380 m³ / s and 10,18 m³ / s ... Completely comparable figures, isn't it?
      An integrated approach to the problem (by real deeds) will undoubtedly give positive results.
      1. Vadim Ananyin
        Vadim Ananyin April 2 2021 16: 19
        +1
        It seems that it is necessary to solve the problem from different directions, some sources are not a fact of a solution, but in a complex it is possible. Under different climate conditions, the system will balance the source risks. Well, it seems to me.
        1. onstar9
          onstar9 April 4 2021 05: 08
          -1
          Quote: Vadim Ananyin
          It seems that it is necessary to solve the problem from different directions, some sources are not a fact of a solution, but in a complex it is possible. Under different climate conditions, the system will balance the source risks. Well, it seems to me.

          Rather, Vova will occupy the Outskirts (which is now being prepared, judging by the movement of tank columns in the direction of Ukraine), and will solve this issue than spent on super-giant nuclear power plants. And then there won't be enough money for "Palaces and Brushes". All residents will flee from there when such a "Chernobyl" appears there ... Then Crimea will definitely not become a "center of world tourism", and business will not come there ... In short, Crimea will be a large nuclear power plant ... and its dump all around ... The land will fall in price there. It will be possible to buy summer cottages ...
          1. Vadim Ananyin
            Vadim Ananyin April 4 2021 08: 08
            0
            Why such a fright such thoughts?
            Why is the GDP the occupation of this territory, who needs this nezalezhnaya gemmor?
            This problem is more European than Russian.
            And what has the nuclear power plant to do with it?
      2. Sergey Kulikov_3
        Sergey Kulikov_3 April 2 2021 16: 39
        +4
        It is possible to carry passengers on a tractor, but on buses and trains it is faster and more convenient, any canal evaporates a lot of water and has a bunch of leaks, to supply 2-5 million people not as much water is needed as you think, but if it is poured through the canals and irrigation ditches, then yes then water from Ukraine is needed, but who needs it?
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 2 2021 17: 17
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
          not so much water is needed to supply 2-5 million people, do you think

          If your question is addressed to me, then I think that by laying water conduits through pipes made of cross-linked polyethylene (you can see the characteristics), you can provide Crimea with water even from Lake Baikal (if you wish). The matter is small: to build production and start producing large-diameter water pipes.
          The water problem of Crimea did not arise today, and its solution is entrusted to "maybe" and the pipeline troops.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr April 2 2021 19: 31
            +3
            Quote: ROSS 42
            If your question is addressed to me, then I think that by laying water conduits through pipes made of cross-linked polyethylene (you can see the characteristics), you can provide Crimea with water even from Lake Baikal (if you wish).

            This is not necessary at all, because there is a lot of water in Crimea, and you just need to learn how to collect and store it in man-made lakes and reservoirs. Crimea in the sixties generally lived without a canal and there was enough water for everyone, because there were many wells, which were then tamped and still not used.Every summer all the cities of Crimea suffer from flooding, and the water goes to God knows where, instead of it collect in the same karst caves or in water bodies. Moreover, the wooded Crimean mountains themselves accumulate moisture and you just need to create a network of artesian wells to supply it to the cities. residents of the city by water. And in Yalta in summer, the dampness is such that the linen may not dry out in a day - this is where you need to get moisture from. And film filters are much better suited for obtaining purified water than building powerful desalination plants.
            In general, if they seriously approach this issue, then no water conduits will be required to Crimea - this is not the Sahara, but a peninsula with mountains, surrounded by water on all sides, and high humidity all year round.
      3. Hagen
        Hagen April 3 2021 17: 57
        +1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        380 m³ / s and 10,18 m³ / s ... Completely comparable figures, isn't it?

        From a flow rate of 380 cubic meters per second, 60 - 80 must be subtracted, which went to the Kherson region. In total, 1554 million cubic meters of water came to Crimea (2013). Of these: 695 million cubic meters (44,72%) - losses for evaporation and sinking into the ground. Of the remaining water, 80% went to agriculture, where 60% went to rice and fish ponds. In total, about 172 million cubic meters fell into the reservoirs of the peninsula, which, in terms of a second productivity, we get approx. 5,5 m / sec. That's the kind of arithmetic ... what about comparability?
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 3 2021 18: 14
          0
          Quote: Hagen
          how about comparability?

          Comparable. I even watched the video:

          I got the impression that you assume that for me the receipt of desalinated water for Crimea is categorically unacceptable? This is not true. There may still be a question about energy capacities. it is in the presence of such that desalination is possible.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen April 3 2021 18: 23
            0
            Quote: ROSS 42
            There may still be a question about energy capacities. it is in the presence of such that desalination is possible.

            To be honest, it seems to me the most optimal construction of a water conduit from polypropylene pipes, for example, from the mouth of the Don through the Sea of ​​Azov. Approximately 300-330 km along the seabed. Considering that today we are producing more and more plastic ourselves, I think there is a direct sense. Because desalination of water is really a very costly thing, both energetically and technologically. And the brine will need to be taken far into the sea. Thermal power plants, if we bear in mind additional capacities, also consume a lot of water. And today, in connection with the growth of production in Crimea, there is information that the underwater energy bridge is also involved in the supply of energy efficiency to Crimea.
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx April 3 2021 18: 40
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              Quote: Hagen
              To be honest, it seems to me the most optimal construction of a water conduit from polypropylene pipes

              To be honest, this is:
              Quote: Vadim Ananyin
              It seems that it is necessary to solve the problem from different directions, some sources are not a fact of a solution, but in a complex it is possible.

              But large-diameter cross-linked polyethylene pipes are not produced in Russia ... I didn’t find ... And the installers who ran the water pipeline spoke about foreign products. And the diameter there was about 200 mm ...
              1. Hagen
                Hagen April 3 2021 19: 45
                +1
                Quote: ROSS 42
                But large-diameter cross-linked polyethylene pipes are not produced in Russia ... I didn’t find ... And the installers who ran the water pipeline spoke about foreign products.

                More than 20 manufacturers of tubular products, including large diameters (800 and more) under pressure of 10 atm. This is only a cursory look. So there are technical possibilities. The whole question is in the project and finances.
                1. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx April 3 2021 20: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: Hagen
                  More than 20 manufacturers of tubular products, including large diameters (800 and more) under pressure of 10 atm.

                  Please link to the site.
                  1. Hagen
                    Hagen April 3 2021 21: 04
                    0
                    Quote: ROSS 42
                    Please link to the site.

                    Write a request in Yandex, there is a lot of everything. I've already closed everything.
                    1. Ross xnumx
                      Ross xnumx April 4 2021 04: 10
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                      Quote: Hagen
                      Write a request in Yandex, there is a lot of everything. I've already closed everything.

                      Do you think I'm so stupid or lazy?
                      To my request: "Russian manufacturers of large-diameter pipes made of cross-linked polyethylene", 25 responses were given:

                      Only these factories produce pipes with a maximum inner diameter of 160 mm. Or like this:
                      1. Hagen
                        Hagen April 4 2021 07: 57
                        +1
                        Quote: ROSS 42
                        In response to my request: "Russian manufacturers of large-diameter cross-linked polyethylene pipes"

                        What stuck you on the XLPE? Moreover, the material does not hold ultraviolet light and is used, judging by the characteristics in the internal wiring of heating systems, and, in fact, was originally developed for water with a high (relatively) temperature. These pipes are good for underfloor heating, why is this in water lines? For highways, you can take what is usually used, for example, "HDPE pipe PE 80 SDR17 1000 x 59,3 drinking". What's wrong with her? They are put in cities as intra-quarter highways. And production has long been mastered ... I am not a chemical technologist. If there are arguments, I'm ready to listen. hi
                      2. Ross xnumx
                        Ross xnumx April 4 2021 08: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: Hagen
                        HDPE pipe PE 80 SDR17 1000 x 59,3 drinking ". What's wrong with it?

                        The diameter corresponds ... I'll see the service life.
                      3. Ross xnumx
                        Ross xnumx April 4 2021 08: 11
                        +1
                        Everything fits. I agree. though the price is 20 rubles / lin. meter ... 000 km will cost 1 rubles. Billion dollar project.
                      4. Hagen
                        Hagen April 4 2021 08: 34
                        +1
                        Quote: ROSS 42
                        Billion dollar project.

                        I think large-scale projects are doomed to equally large-scale costs. Maybe that's why such a solution is not considered a priority. Moreover, the flow of water from the Kuban has recently exceeded the Don one ... In general, there are many problems, there are also options for solutions. They will choose something. Anyway, the peninsula will not be left without water.
  • GEOID
    GEOID April 2 2021 20: 52
    -1
    How can a desalination plant replace this?

  • venik
    venik April 2 2021 23: 51
    -1
    Quote: Flood
    Sooner or later, a desalination station will have to be built.

    ========
    Sooner or later, the Kherson region will have to be connected to the Crimean Canal ...
    1. Hagen
      Hagen April 3 2021 19: 48
      -1
      Quote: venik
      Sooner or later, the Kherson region will have to be connected to the Crimean Canal ...

      Experts say that the SCC in Ukraine has never been repaired; in 2014, its technical condition was characterized by 80% physical wear and tear. Even today it cannot be launched without serious investments in repairs. He's just thin as a sieve.
      1. venik
        venik April 3 2021 20: 43
        -1
        Quote: Hagen
        Experts say that the SCC in Ukraine has never been repaired ........ It cannot be launched today without serious investments in repairs. He's just thin as a sieve.

        =======
        Those. - best of all - GENERAL To do nothing?
        Bravo! Well then: come to us - I will quickly and easily will explain full depth your delusions! angry
        The main thing is that the neighbors do not "connect" !!! request
        1. Hagen
          Hagen April 3 2021 21: 09
          0
          Quote: venik
          Those. - best of all - do nothing AT ALL?

          Is your Russian not native? You read, I laid out my ideas.
          Quote: venik
          I will quickly and clearly explain to you the depth of your delusions!

          Are you threatening me? Are you not healthy or did you study poorly? Don't you think that you yourself might not like the meeting? laughing Or do you think that if the prez folds under the yards, then you caught God by the beard? Learn to communicate ....
  • alexander 08
    alexander 08 April 27 2021 18: 12
    0
    Quote: Flood
    Sooner or later, a desalination station will have to be built.

    If you restore at least one power unit of the nuclear power plant, which was abandoned, then the energy will be more than enough for the desalination plant and the whole Crimea!
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart April 2 2021 15: 22
    +7
    Poland miscalculated a little with the country) We are one of the main pipelayers in the world, so the question is not "we can or cannot", but we will clamp down to do it thoroughly or not.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 2 2021 15: 22
    +8
    The gas will dry out faster in the gas stoves in the meadow, and the Crimea will dry out without water.
    1. onstar9
      onstar9 April 4 2021 05: 16
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The gas will dry out faster in the gas stoves in the meadow, and the Crimea will dry out without water.

      Crimea won't dry up. This is not the point. If the water is turned off there at all, people will not leave early. They will adapt ... A serious approach is needed here ... In Russian villages, people live when everything is "turned off", except for the air ...
  • Mouse
    Mouse April 2 2021 15: 24
    +10
    Maternyak ... a very speaking surname ... wink
    Do they know better from Poland there? recourse
  • svoit
    svoit April 2 2021 15: 24
    +8
    It is unlikely that in the near future it will be possible to waste water as in Ukraine, but otherwise the problem can be solved.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 2 2021 15: 31
      +7
      Quote: svoit
      It is unlikely that in the near future it will be possible to waste water like in Ukraine

      The problem is that already now, the rapidly developing region needs more water than it consumed when it was part of the Outskirts.
      Industry, agriculture, and of course the tourism cluster are developing + recovering.

      For all this, water is needed, moreover, of high quality and in ever-increasing volumes ...
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 April 2 2021 16: 01
        0
        For all this, water is needed, moreover, of high quality and in ever-increasing volumes ...

        this is an organizational issue and no more ... there are a dime a dozen of mothballed artesian women ... water facilities are in no hurry to put them into operation ... sabotage of clean water along the way
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 2 2021 16: 07
          +2
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          on the go sabotage of pure water


          Ecce enim, qui beneficia yes
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 April 2 2021 16: 42
            +2
            Ecce enim, qui beneficia
            .......... the essence is not for whom it is profitable and for whom it is not profitable ... there is no desire to take responsibility for de-conservation ... and I have already indicated who it is ... water facilities ... this is especially true of Simfa where more than 30 artesian 2-kilometer-long routes are mothballed ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 2 2021 15: 30
    +1
    Maternyak hopes that the activity of the so-called "Crimean platform", created by Kiev to "de-occupy" the peninsula, will help solve the problem.
    I read, read and found ... confirmation of how much that rich do / R \ ilka is finished, in his knowledge of Russia, not a boom boom.
    Rather, there is a du / R \ ilka, there is no knowledge ... "harmonious combination"!
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 2 2021 15: 32
    +7
    As I understand it, this mother tongue with a speaking surname judges by pshekia. They themselves are unable to create anything, they have always been parasites, now they are barely alive on the remnants of the "occupation" and thinks that Russia is the same. Typically pshetsky stupid ambition.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 2 2021 15: 35
    -5
    There are a lot of articles about Poland today ... On the eve of Catholic Easter, or what? ...
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra April 2 2021 15: 39
    +6
    Everyone, guys, we disperse. Until we fall under the authority of Warsaw, there will be no water anywhere ... laughing
    And what is characteristic - even Israel is not to blame for this)))
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 2 2021 17: 27
      +1
      Quote: Cowbra
      which is typical - even Israel is not to blame for this)))

      Israel will go by trailer here. yes laughing
  • svp67
    svp67 April 2 2021 15: 39
    +5
    This opinion was expressed by the editor-in-chief of the Polish-Ukrainian portal, Dr. Dariusz Materniak
    This already says it all ... laughing

    He believes that a significant deterioration in the water situation on the peninsula should be expected this year. At the same time, Russia, says Maternyak to the Polish media, will not be able to establish water supply in Crimea.
    Yeah, and there will be no electricity in Crimea, and it is impossible to build a bridge ...
    1. Vadim Ananyin
      Vadim Ananyin April 2 2021 16: 12
      0
      Doctor virtual or virtual but doctor, I agree.
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak April 2 2021 15: 42
    +1
    Today is the day of Poland or what? The main specialists in plumbing, military operations and ramming ships?
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 2 2021 15: 43
    0
    The question on the channel still needs to be raised ...
  • sustav75
    sustav75 April 2 2021 15: 44
    +1
    The most terrible torture! This is dry land torture! Ukrainians have always known a lot about torture! In concentration camps, they practiced it well! And psheki with banderlog understand that retribution for these deeds of theirs is not far off?
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 2 2021 15: 44
    +6
    Have you heard already. Russia will not be able to do this, will not be able to do this, Russia will not be able to build the Crimean bridge. I'm tired of it. Russia can do everything if it wants.
  • The comment was deleted.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 2 2021 16: 59
      +4
      You are working roughly a Bandera underdit.
      1. The comment was deleted.
  • Errr
    Errr April 2 2021 15: 49
    +3
    Experts have already begun drilling underground wells to assess the volume and quality of fresh water under the Sea of ​​Azov. The head of the Crimea Sergey Aksenov said this at the final press conference.
    More details at https://rg.ru/2020/12/24/reg-ufo/kachestvo-vody-v-linze-pod-azovskim-morem-oceniat-do-konca-goda.html good
  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 2 2021 15: 52
    .
    Ukraine cut off the water supply? So this is a declaration of war! Cho we swallow that?
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 April 2 2021 15: 53
    +2
    problems with water supply will be further exacerbated in the future.


    Understood nothing. What could be worse "without water"? Will the rest flow back to Ukraine? Guiding? My poor brain!
  • Andrea
    Andrea April 2 2021 15: 54
    +2
    I couldn't build a bridge either
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima April 2 2021 16: 02
    +4
    Yes, already tired of the actions of Poland
  • Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin April 2 2021 16: 10
    +3
    Poles know everything, judging by their statements in all areas and spheres of life.
    In general, they are the most authoritative authorities in the universe, together with the Ukrainians of the Independent.
    A country of academic knowledge, including everyone from hacks like this to premieres who
    fight on planes for drunkenness.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin April 2 2021 16: 59
      +1
      Quote: Vadim Ananyin
      Poles know everything, judging by their statements in all areas and spheres of life.

      Only at the same time they have farsightedness that they see all around, and at home - a channel through a spit of which it is not clear how it will affect the ecology, cuts down Belovezhskaya Pushcha ...
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon April 2 2021 16: 12
    +3
    And in a number of countries, they believe that problems with water supply will further worsen in the future.

    And at the same time, they already write for joy together with animals from the squad of "pan-headed"
    1. Jaromir
      Jaromir April 2 2021 21: 36
      +8
      Quote: Piramidon
      they are already peeing for joy together with the animals from the "pan-headed" squad

      And boiling water and into the ceiling. Tse marasmus.
      After the photo below, I understood where the "pan-headed" roots come from
  • Split
    Split April 2 2021 16: 54
    +3
    What does it matter to them then? belay This is an internal affair of Russia!
    1. Jaromir
      Jaromir April 2 2021 21: 27
      +8
      They are trying to show their significance. They build a Power of themselves, but in fact they have not risen further above the level of a hyena in their evolution
  • dedBoroded
    dedBoroded April 2 2021 17: 00
    +2
    To the Poles, what a business. They don't climb into their own steppe.
  • Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash April 2 2021 17: 06
    +3
    Epidemic seizures become more frequent as the stream builds up!
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 April 2 2021 17: 18
    +2
    Here are the real "European hyenas" sucking on how much the water supply of the Crimea will deteriorate.
    It's about human lives, by the way!
    There are two and a half million civilians, where is the famous European philanthropy, where is the struggle for human rights?
    Shameful hypocrites!
    In XNUMX, they were just like civilized people, they put human life at nothing and now nothing has changed.
  • Basarev
    Basarev April 2 2021 17: 34
    +1
    But artesian wells do not really solve the problem. They create a new one - soil salinization.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 2 2021 19: 31
      +1
      As it turned out, deep underground in Crimea, there is a natural desalination plant in the form of volcanic activity, sea water on this layer evaporates, condenses and it turns out that the same constant feeding of those very wells, salt remains at a depth and fresh and clean water comes out to the surface.
    2. ccsr
      ccsr April 2 2021 19: 36
      0
      Quote: Basarev
      But artesian wells do not really solve the problem. They create a new one - soil salinization.

      Salinity is created by those artesian wells that are drilled near the coast and pump out water from depths, much below sea level. But those wells that are drilled in higher places of the Crimean peninsula at altitudes above 100-200 meters above sea level have excellent fresh water and do not carry any soil salinity - sea water cannot rise up, even if the aquifer is empty.
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich April 2 2021 20: 23
    +2
    b ... t !!! block their gums!
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich April 2 2021 20: 25
    +3
    Ghouls, how much squeal it would be if we blocked it !!! God will punish them ... both
  • Jaromir
    Jaromir April 2 2021 21: 24
    +4
    Chief Editor of the Polish-Ukrainian Portal Dr. Dariusz Materniak in an interview with BiznesAlert.

    Who, if not the editor-in-chief, a doctor of Russophobic propaganda, knows what Russia can and cannot do? laughing Smart damn this editor-in-chief laughing
  • Whisper
    Whisper April 2 2021 22: 18
    +2
    Water will flow from Ukraine sooner or later. Apparently technical. What to do with drinking? Drill. The sea is near. I hope the drinking issue will be resolved by the wells. The money will definitely be allocated for this, the main thing is that nature does not fail.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr April 4 2021 11: 18
      0
      Quote: Sheptun
      Water will flow from Ukraine sooner or later. Apparently technical. What to do with drinking?

      I think that it will never come again - Crimea will provide itself with its own water resources:
      To meet the demand of the population and economy of Crimea for water resources, the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment proposed to conduct geological exploration of groundwater deposits on the peninsula. According to Deputy Minister of Natural Resources and Environment Denis Khramov, there are a lot of unexplored areas in the region that have prospects for the discovery of large underground water deposits, RIA Novosti reports.
      “The relevant work within the framework of the geological exploration program will allow solving the existing problem of water supply for the population and economic facilities,” the Deputy Minister said, speaking at the Rosnedra board.
      He also asked his colleagues to take into account the required amount of work in the program, both at the expense of the federal budget and funds of subsoil users.
      Crimea will provide itself with drinking water in any situation, the authorities promise.

      https://news.allcrimea.net/news/2014/4/4/minprirody-rossii-znaet-kak-napoit-krym-9171/
  • svoit
    svoit April 2 2021 22: 54
    +1
    Quote: Sheptun
    Drill. The sea is near

    in 7 years they built the Turkish Stream, which is almost 1000 km long, so why not lay a couple of three pipes with a diameter of 3 m from the Don along the shallow Sea of ​​Azov? Only about 500 km.
    1. clerk
      clerk April 2 2021 23: 03
      +3
      .beside

      in 7 years they built the Turkish Stream, which is almost 1000 km long, so why not lay a couple of three pipes with a diameter of 3 m from the Don along the shallow Sea of ​​Azov? Only about 500 km.
      This will be unfair to the people of Donetsk. Pipes must be laid from the upper reaches of the Dnieper. Let it be three times more expensive, but in fairness.
  • Pattor
    Pattor April 2 2021 23: 01
    0
    water is needed, not boltology. there would be no study of the experience of the countries of the Persian Gulf, the same Israel. add your own. and as a result get a set of measures for obtaining water for different needs.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 4 2021 11: 10
      0
      Especially Israel. Concerning military operations not authorized by the UN.
  • 123456789
    123456789 April 2 2021 23: 29
    +2
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    Ukraine cut off the water supply? So this is a declaration of war! Cho we swallow that?

    Any kind of blockade, even directed exclusively against civilians, in accordance with international law, is considered a type of hostilities and is qualified as a war crime.
    journalist, publicist and political consultant Anatoly Wasserman
  • svoit
    svoit April 3 2021 01: 03
    0
    Quote: Pattor
    there would be no study of the experience of the countries of the Persian Gulf, the same Israel.

    the largest desalination plant in the CA - 1.3 million cubic meters per day, that is, only 15 cubic meters per second, and this is exactly 20 times less than what the SCC gave
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 3 2021 04: 18
    0
    - "Editor of the Polish-Ukrainian Portal Dr. Dariusz Materniak" - even such crap is there !? Actually, what does it matter to you, our problems are to be solved by us, we will have to build a water pipeline from Lake Baikal. It was told to you from a high rostrum, forget about Crimea - it is Russian.
  • Romanenko
    Romanenko April 3 2021 08: 48
    0
    Quote: "Russia will not be able to establish water supply in Crimea"
    Well, of course!
    Who else, if not the Poles, know about this?
    The best Crimean hydrogeologists live there
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ April 3 2021 10: 59
    0
    Commenting on these statements, it is worth recalling that they talked about the construction of the Crimean bridge, about the creation of power plants in Crimea, about the development of road transport infrastructure.
    all these issues were solvable, but with water, indeed, there is a dead end, desalination plants are very expensive and are suitable only for drinking water, for cx such water will be golden, you cannot supply water with pipes in such volumes, groundwater is limited and will also solve the problem temporarily
  • musorg
    musorg April 3 2021 12: 19
    0
    Pshek mass media ......... and it makes us madly happy!
  • meandr51
    meandr51 April 4 2021 11: 08
    +1
    For the recognition of the Crimean bridge and the care and drink of the Crimeans in Poland, many thanks!
  • Siberian54
    Siberian54 April 4 2021 11: 15
    0
    amateur opinion, we build a nuclear power plant and on its basis a desalination plant is expensive, but pipes from the Kuban or the Caucasus are even more expensive in the process of operation .. By the way, ecologists are talking about dunes in the Kherson region, can they help desalination plants to carry out desertification of the south of the outskirts?
  • sawic1
    sawic1 April 5 2021 05: 13
    0
    Why listen to idiots who do not know what they are writing about, they do not know anything about the precipitation this year, or about the events already done and planned, they just write what they like, there are no facts
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 April 5 2021 21: 10
    0
    Well, yes, Polish plumbers know better.
  • AJE
    AJE April 6 2021 13: 04
    0
    A well-known mantra: the Crimean bridge - photoshop, hypersound - Putin cartoons, the economy - torn to shreds ... Boring, gentlemen ...
  • Graduate student
    Graduate student April 7 2021 00: 41
    +3
    Approximately the same thing was written in the West about the construction of the Crimean bridge. However, the bridge was built and it is. It will be the same with the water supply of the Crimea.
  • Popov I.P.
    Popov I.P. April 7 2021 12: 37
    0
    Where is the Crimea, and where is Poland, that's really a plug in any barrel and experts on any issue. Crimea was not an arid desert throughout its history, and the Dnieper water came there, in my opinion, only in 1972 through the North Crimean canal. There are several reasons for the lack of water, except for the malicious intent of the "non-brothers": 1. huge losses (up to 50%) in leaky water conduits and water pipelines, which no one has ever repaired in Ukraine 2. large losses from evaporation in summer in open canals and reservoirs (gigantic areas of reservoirs in natural depressions at a depth of 10-15 m, the larger the area, there is more evaporation), and summer temperatures over the past 30 years have risen by 5 3 degrees. lack of water-saving technologies in the industry and agriculture of Crimea and high water consumption for these purposes. Ways to solve the problem: 1. Immediate repair or replacement of old water lines and water lines and reduce losses from leaks 2. Using natural sources, until now a number of Crimean rivers simply run into the sea 3. Use of underground and underwater artesian wells 4. Purification of wastewater and their use at least for technical purposes 5. Construction of underground or surface water pipelines from large-diameter pipes instead of open channels, including the "corral" of a number of small Crimean rivers there, is expensive, but the same Gaddafi did so in Libya 6. The construction of new artificial reservoirs of great depth (50-100 m) and in area (and therefore (and the volume of evaporation) is much less than the existing ones, there is experience in the construction of structures such as dams on Siberian rivers in the Russian Federation 7. construction of desalination stations in the most problematic areas. 8. the transition of industry and agriculture of the Crimea to water-saving technologies, the use of opportunities for cooperation with other regions of the Russian Federation, what is the point, for example, to grow rice in the Crimea, when the Kuban feeds them all of the Russian Federation and part of Asia. In any case, the problem of water supply in Crimea is the last of the major problems of the Ukrainian legacy, the Russian Federation will solve it, as it has already solved other problems in the shortest possible time (an energy bridge to Crimea, 2 thermal power plants, a gas bridge, a communication bridge (2 underwater fiber optic lines), construction of the century - Crimean bridge with automobile and railway. approaches with a bunch of stations, tunnels, etc., new airport Simferopol, railway. bypassing Ukraine, Tavrida highway, etc.), it's only a matter of time. Projects such as transferring the waters of the upper reaches of the Dnieper to Crimea or from the Tsimlyansk reservoir or other reservoirs in the South of Russia are technically feasible, but expensive and will take much more time, so they do not make sense. It may be for the better that Ukraine has created extreme conditions that required the concentration of all the forces and finances of the Russian Federation, otherwise, with a calm atmosphere, the same Krymky bridge would have been built for 10 years (Ukraine has been building the Podolsky bridge in Kiev since 1993 and the end is still not visible ). Although in Crimea after Ukraine there are still many infrastructure problems that need to be addressed (albeit not so acute), for example, the transfer of the Crimean railway. for AC electric traction, railway construction branches to Simferopol airport for aeroexpress trains, repair of the road network, repair and replacement of power lines throughout Crimea, and railway lines.
    1. alexander 2
      alexander 2 April 20 2021 05: 37
      0
      Much of what you have listed is being done. I would not be surprised if Fortuna, after completing the SP-2, goes to the Crimea to lay water conduits.
  • Popov I.P.
    Popov I.P. April 7 2021 12: 43
    0
    PS But in general, Winston Churchill called the Poles the most vile of the vile ones, but he did not seem to say anything about Ukraine, he probably did not know anything from such a wonderful outskirts
  • alexander 2
    alexander 2 April 20 2021 05: 29
    0
    It is necessary to annex Ukraine to Russia. At least that part of it where this channel passes. The inhabitants of Ukraine, I think, will not mind. The USA and their hangers-on will, of course, howl. Sanctions will be introduced. This is where it ends. And the sanctions ... In any case, they will be introduced.
  • wisealtair
    wisealtair 13 May 2021 16: 32
    0
    And nafikh needs this channel: so that Ukraine would dump some chemical waste into it in order to poison the Crimeans? She may well do this: both officially and through the pravosek, who are not particularly controlled by Kiev.
  • LSI_72
    LSI_72 31 May 2021 06: 09
    0
    Every sandpiper praises his swamp. the same can be said about the editor-in-chief of the Polish-Ukrainian portal, Dr. Dariusz Materniak. In Russia they say that there are no unsolvable problems.