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Liberal press of Europe: There will be no threats to the gas pipeline from the side of warships if the SP-2 simply stops building

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The statements of representatives of the Nord Stream 2 company, which is building a gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea, about the growing activity of warships in the construction zone, are commented on abroad, primarily in Europe.

The operator Nord Stream-2 noted the appearance at a distance of less than 1 nautical mile of ships of the Polish Navy, as well as an "unidentified submarine" in the area of ​​operation of the pipe-laying barge "Fortuna". It was pointed out that such activity could lead to damage to the pipeline under construction, as well as structural elements used in pipe-laying and positioning of the said vessel. The increased activity of the Polish patrol aviation... This activity was described as provocative.

The Polish Ministry of National Defense and the Polish Navy are responding to these statements. Thus, the command of the Polish naval forces stated that it rejects any accusations of provocative activities in the Baltic Sea in the area of ​​laying the Nord Stream-2 pipe.

It is stated that the ships of the Polish Navy "do not conduct any provocative activities, but carry out planned tasks, observing international law."

From the report:

And our patrol aircraft conducts scheduled patrol and reconnaissance flights over the Baltic Sea, without increasing or decreasing their activity.

The German press cannot decide exactly which side to take on this issue. The liberal press of Europe, including German publications, writes that if the SP-2 "simply stops building, then there will be no threat to the pipes and the pipe-laying vessel from surface warships and submarines." Such words sound somewhat ambiguous. And if they don't stop building, will the threat not disappear?

More neutral German publications note that the issue of the activity of warships in the pipeline construction zone "requires careful study and consultation."

Against this background, Germany notes that if the ruling coalition does not achieve support in future elections, the Greens will win, which will “put an end to the construction of the gas pipeline”. And at the same time, it is added that if the Greens win, they will promote a reduction in defense spending, "which Russia can take advantage of." To use in which particular plan is not specified.
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  1. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock April 2 2021 06: 41
    +31
    This is the real challenge for our fleet.
    What are the long hikes and the Gulf of Mexico. Let him display the flag at least in the immediate vicinity of his own shores and protect shipping in the adjacent water area.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 2 2021 07: 05
      -39%
      There will be no threat to the gas pipeline from the side of warships if the SP-2 simply stops building
      Yes, I do not care here and there ... from this, in any way. We were bothered with our "stream" ... with the "power of Siberia" figure it out, and at least get out in +.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter April 2 2021 07: 08
        -34%
        Quote: Dead Day
        us from this, in any way. zadolbali with their "stream" ... with the "power of Siberia" figure it out, and in + at least go out.

        They will not come out, but taxes will be pulled from us.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 April 2 2021 21: 59
          -1
          And if one of the parties to the conflict suddenly takes it and dies, there will be no conflict.
          As Genghis Khan said - "the peaceful rest of the cemetery."
          And that is logical.
    2. Simon
      Simon April 2 2021 07: 27
      +3
      It has long been for the Poles to wipe their "nose"! What a violent steel. They want to do worse to their NATO ally.
      1. Bykov.
        Bykov. April 2 2021 08: 07
        +10
        Quote: Simon
        It has long been for the Poles to wipe their "nose"! What a violent steel. They want to do worse to their NATO ally.

        We must first of all those who want to find that they would agree to wipe the snotty Polish nose. Yes, and they do not want to do worse for a comrade-in-arms, but they care about their selfish interests. Because we are just finishing the construction of the SP-2. so they and their slaves scauas will come full of gas ales kaput. So pshikat pshikat to the best of their foul abilities.
        1. mojohed2012
          mojohed2012 April 2 2021 09: 24
          +6
          As soon as SP-2 is launched, gas will stop flowing through the GTS Krajina to Pshekia.
          This means that the Poles will no longer receive gesheft from the resale of our gas.
          Okay Pshekia - the EU will support it financially, but Krajina? How will the budget revenues from the loss of transit through the GTS be replenished?
          And, of course, there are a bunch of examples - you can cut the latter off from citizens, or you can motivate them to work abroad, even in the west, even in the east. And on the transfers of migrant workers, you can somehow keep the economy. In Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, they somehow keep up with Kyrgyzstan ...
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather April 2 2021 11: 01
            -6
            Quote: mojohed2012
            As soon as SP-2 is launched, gas will stop flowing through the GTS Krajina to Pshekia.
            This means that the Poles will no longer receive gesheft from the resale of our gas.
            Okay Pshekia - the EU will support it financially, but Krajina? How will the budget revenues from the loss of transit through the GTS be replenished?
            And, of course, there are a bunch of examples - you can cut the latter off from citizens, or you can motivate them to work abroad, even in the west, even in the east. And on the transfers of migrant workers, you can somehow keep the economy. In Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, they somehow keep up with Kyrgyzstan ...

            dreaming is not harmful ... our hucksters will still trade. as now, and spare parts and fuel ... through Belarus, through Venus or Jupiter ... they do not care.
          2. 210ox
            210ox April 2 2021 11: 15
            0
            It has already been declared by our hands by the industry-transit through Ukraine Will be preserved. How much? Question. In other matters, I agree with you, not a cubic meter of losses and tenants of the yellow house.
            1. Shishiga
              Shishiga April 3 2021 19: 47
              +1
              And how long??? GTS banderlogy will soon come, and then how ???
          3. viktor706
            viktor706 April 4 2021 10: 35
            +1
            Quote: mojohed2012
            As soon as SP-2 is launched, gas will stop flowing through the GTS Krajina to Pshekia.
            This means that the Poles will no longer receive gesheft from the resale of our gas.
            Okay Pshekia - the EU will support it financially, but Krajina? How will the budget revenues from the loss of transit through the GTS be replenished?
            And, of course, there are a bunch of examples - you can cut the latter off from citizens, or you can motivate them to work abroad, even in the west, even in the east. And on the transfers of migrant workers, you can somehow keep the economy. In Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, they somehow keep up with Kyrgyzstan ...

            If Psheki and Ukrainians were sane and adequate, then we would not even have to build SP1 ... but what can you take from the defective? Is that feces and urine for / for tests ...
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke April 2 2021 10: 30
          -1
          Quote: Bulls.
          Quote: Simon
          It has long been for the Poles to wipe their "nose"! What a violent steel. They want to do worse to their NATO ally.

          We must first of all those who want to find that they would agree to wipe the snotty Polish nose.

          Germany could fit into the rubbing of the nose. In her interest. hi
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich April 2 2021 09: 40
      +6
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      This is the real challenge for our fleet.

      indeed, construction is taking place in the exclusive economic zone of Denmark, not in the territory. waters, so there can and should be a Russian warship to cool the provocateurs.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox April 2 2021 09: 51
        +4
        But here's the question: is it necessary for the Russian Federation to request from Denmark the absence of objections from its NATO enemy to the fulfillment of the tasks of the Russian corvette for the protection of household work carried out in the economic zone of Denmark?
    4. Zug
      Zug April 2 2021 10: 55
      +1
      Yes, they will not do anything. This has long been understood. Even if a rat jumps off a Polish inflatable boat, they will not dare to touch it, but they will still save the circle. So that the belly does not drown.
      1. Ryusey
        Ryusey April 2 2021 11: 08
        -2
        By your example, do you assert?
        1. Zug
          Zug April 2 2021 13: 40
          +1
          Here's an example - the ship was kicked in passing, like a piece ... Where is the reaction? Here is an example
    5. alex-defensor
      alex-defensor April 5 2021 08: 41
      +2
      And what do you suggest? Sink a civilian ship that was heading for a collision, or immediately sink a Polish warship (which we will certainly be able to do). It is clear that we must prepare for war, but the world is a theater, and we are all actors in it. It is important not only to show strength, but also to show it in such a way that the sworn friends would have fewer opportunities to blame Russia for the first strike.
      It's not an easy matter, this geopolitics.
  2. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk April 2 2021 06: 42
    +14
    The logs were even sent to a tugboat.) It is necessary to sink everything that comes closer than a kilometer to the ships under construction without a request.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 2 2021 07: 14
      -22%
      Quote: From Tomsk
      The logs were even sent to a tugboat.) It is necessary to sink everything that comes closer than a kilometer to the ships under construction without a request.

      well ... there are a lot of "Gazprom" yachts ... let them go into battle.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather April 2 2021 07: 44
        -21%
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: From Tomsk
        The logs were even sent to a tugboat.) It is necessary to sink everything that comes closer than a kilometer to the ships under construction without a request.

        well ... there are a lot of "Gazprom" yachts ... let them go into battle.

        and I see you are here ... wassat
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 April 4 2021 11: 29
          0
          They will not understand you old man. They are already the same new Russia and they accept its realities completely. Yachts and other goodies? So they hammered into their heads that this is correct and they, too, will be able to reach it. Our country no longer exists, we are now partisans on our land.
    2. Bykov.
      Bykov. April 2 2021 08: 20
      0
      Quote: From Tomsk
      The logs were even sent to a tugboat.) It is necessary to sink everything that comes closer than a kilometer to the ships under construction without a request.

      logs like + @ +++ do not sink. on bunks and their losses, let them compensate.
  3. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 April 2 2021 06: 45
    +1
    why don't we send our aviation. like a patrol laughing
  4. Hagen
    Hagen April 2 2021 06: 45
    +19
    the command of the Polish naval forces stated that they rejected any accusations of provocative activities in the Baltic Sea in the area of ​​laying the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
    It is stated that the ships of the Polish Navy "do not conduct any provocative activities, but carry out planned tasks, observing international law."

    But their inadequate compatriots, fishermen, distinguished themselves by ramming the supply vessel in the immediate vicinity of the pipelayer. According to the information posted on the network, this vessel blocked the way for the "fisherman" to the pipe-layer, thereby saving him. Now they will start screaming, like the fishing captain got lost, lost control, etc. But what did he do there for some time with other similar ships? Did the shoals of herrings rush to the noise while laying pipes? I think the Poles deliberately rammed the ship. Already completely out of their minds, they switched to a direct, physical collision, almost piracy. It's just some kind of hysteria ...
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 April 2 2021 06: 59
      +6
      Quote: Hagen
      Already completely out of their minds, they switched to a direct, physical collision, almost piracy.

      I don’t get it? Was it really a ram? Did our Baltic Fleet take roots at the walls? Where is the reaction?
      1. KCA
        KCA April 2 2021 07: 25
        +6
        What reaction are you expecting from the Baltic Fleet in the territorial waters of Denmark? 3rd World War?
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 April 2 2021 07: 42
          0
          And it is not obligatory to enter the tervoda. This is exactly the case when subscription is required "demonstration of the flag". Aviation takes off to meet the guests. Here is the same case in sea performance
        2. Alex Justice
          Alex Justice April 2 2021 09: 07
          +1
          And what are the Poles doing in the territorial waters of Denmark?
          1. KCA
            KCA April 2 2021 09: 29
            +1
            They have the EU, NATO and a common overlord, they have already agreed somehow
            1. keeper03
              keeper03 April 2 2021 10: 20
              0
              It's time to turn off the gas all over Europe! yes soldier
          2. Kent0001
            Kent0001 April 2 2021 12: 46
            +2
            there are no territorial waters of Denmark.
    2. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov April 2 2021 13: 00
      +1
      Quote: Hagen
      It's just some kind of hysteria ...

      I agree with you. Only this is not without reason, but concerted actions (Polish aircraft-ship-fishermen-pirates), initiated, for sure, by the Americans. The Poles are the tools of the Americans as well as the Ukrainians. Desperate attempts by the Americans to disrupt the ongoing construction of the hated SP-2.
      Also someone's submarine ...
  5. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 April 2 2021 06: 51
    0
    Well, if someone is trying to arrange a "show of force" for us, it’s in vain, over there Tram-pam-pam drove aircraft carriers to North Korea and could not do anything with Eun.
    Well, and the Poles, if they really want to grab grief, then let them continue at the same pace.
  6. sergo1914
    sergo1914 April 2 2021 06: 53
    +3
    ... if the ruling coalition does not achieve support in future elections, then the Greens will win, which will “put an end to the construction of the gas pipeline”. And at the same time, it is added that if the Greens win, they will promote a reduction in defense spending, "which Russia can take advantage of."


    It turns out that Russia will take advantage of the "green" in any case? The only question is which side? How frivolous they are, these "green" ones.
  7. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 April 2 2021 07: 07
    +4
    Or could it happen that an unidentified submarine would have been destroyed by an unidentified torpedo? wassat
    1. Simon
      Simon April 2 2021 07: 33
      +8
      Better on the mine of the second world war. It will be more truthful. How many of them are still in the sea! wink
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 2 2021 07: 24
    +2
    Ours bungled at least a couple of triremes to take the Poles to the ram, punched a hole in the hull below the waterline and let it continue on its own. No shooting, no roar, a simple accident, it happens.
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 2 2021 07: 24
    -1
    In some way, this Polyakhi warship reminds me of an American frigate, of the Stark type, you see it is, reworked!
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 2 2021 15: 23
      0
      American type "Oliver Perry" built in the late 70s. Poland has two of them.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 April 2 2021 07: 26
    +2
    Liberal press of Europe: There will be no threats to the gas pipeline from the side of warships if the SP-2 simply stops building
    ... Under the joyful squeals of the liberd and the far riffraffs, the "proud spit" rushed to shit ....
    Shaw can say .... so far nothing.
    Boom to see how things go and what the "giraffe" decides ??? he should know better, from his heights, what and how is going on in the world.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox April 2 2021 09: 56
      +1
      Hyenas - don't shit !?
      That you sho !?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 2 2021 10: 27
        +2
        So they would snatch, sho lies badly ...
        It does not lie badly, it is too tough for them, all that remains is ...
        1. cniza
          cniza April 2 2021 12: 20
          +2
          Let them lick their lips while there is something ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 2 2021 12: 25
            +1
            For someone a good club is crying, crying, it's time to start up.
            1. cniza
              cniza April 2 2021 12: 26
              +3
              They leave us no other choice, it will be great happiness if we manage to avoid war ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 2 2021 13: 02
                +1
                So there is a violation of international laws by the politicians!
                The question is, who CAN, IS OBLIGED, in that place to force the zealous to comply with those laws ???
                1. cniza
                  cniza April 2 2021 13: 05
                  +4
                  The Germans are behaving strangely, they could put things in order, we better not interfere ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 2 2021 13: 19
                    +3
                    There is no German zone of responsibility ... all the more, the Germans don't even have a grudge against the Poles, but their whole jaws are sharpened ... just let them, they can not roam like a child!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza April 2 2021 13: 21
                      +3
                      The USA does not give, I do not see any other option ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 2 2021 13: 39
                        +1
                        They look back at the strong, because of the okey ... we just wait and see what goes on and how.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza April 2 2021 16: 59
                        +3
                        We don't know much, we only see that. what's on the surface and then from afar ...
  11. cniza
    cniza April 2 2021 12: 20
    +3
    Interesting events await us ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 2 2021 12: 23
      +1
      Events are already underway ... if only they do not slide into a big ball of bad things. Already tired of raking, threshing, leveling ... we have enough other necessary things to do.
      1. cniza
        cniza April 2 2021 12: 24
        +5
        They will not let us live in peace until we calm them down, we don’t want to fight ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 2 2021 12: 31
          +2
          War can be different ... just to get on the brains, they do not want ... will be different.
          1. cniza
            cniza April 2 2021 12: 46
            +3
            No, minke whales need a hot conflict, but, as it were, without their participation ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 April 2 2021 13: 12
              +1
              No one will stand up for dill ... from the progressive, of course, but there will be a lot of screeching! The main thing here is to repulse the information attack, and to spread your point of view, the truth, in all directions !!! Only this can help dampen the screeching that will begin.
              1. cniza
                cniza April 2 2021 13: 16
                +4
                So they need the noise, and they will turn on the volume themselves ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 2 2021 13: 37
                  +2
                  And the noise, now, there are few places to linger and take root ... only among his own, he sang along! And this is not the whole world ...
                  It will be difficult, but not critical, if we learn to act harshly, but correctly ... ONLY ENEMIES do not like the STRONG !!! and we don't need anything from our enemies ... we'll take everything ourselves.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza April 2 2021 13: 40
                    +3
                    They would have left us alone, but you can't even dream about it ...
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 April 2 2021 13: 50
                      +2
                      Empty dreams, they should have been finished for a long time .... forever.
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad April 2 2021 07: 38
    -8
    Nord Stream 2


    it can be blocked at any stage (at the construction stage, at the commissioning stage, at the stage of pumping through it).
    Nord Stream 2 is only a problem for Gazprom, not ours. Regardless of whether the flow will stand or not, the price of gas will not fall for us.
    1. Yaro Polk
      Yaro Polk April 2 2021 07: 52
      +1
      For whom for VAZZ, for hohloff?
      This is yes.
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad April 2 2021 07: 56
        -3
        Quote: Yaro Polk
        For whom for VAZZ


        they did not guess for the Russians, but for all Ukrainians it is important because if they complete the construction, Ukraine may be left without gas (it just won't be in the Ukrainian transit pipe from which they "extract" it under the guise of reverse)
        1. Yaro Polk
          Yaro Polk April 2 2021 08: 02
          +4
          And the Russians do not care about the Bandera Nazis, will they have transit or not?
          1. Jacket in stock
            Jacket in stock April 2 2021 08: 23
            0
            Quote: Yaro Polk
            And the Russians do not care about the Bandera Nazis, will they have transit or not?

            Well, bae, Bandera Nazis declared war on the state of Russia, in which the Russians live.
            This means how many resources in the trough of these Nazis depends on how actively they will fight.
    2. Yaro Polk
      Yaro Polk April 2 2021 07: 54
      +9
      Or eternally aching to nausea liberation?
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  • sokol77
    sokol77 April 2 2021 11: 32
    0
    There will be a response, from our side. Such things are not forgiven. After all, SP, my beauty. We wait.
  • cniza
    cniza April 2 2021 12: 19
    +3
    This activity was described as provocative.


    Why is it named, this is a provocation ...
  • vavilon
    vavilon April 2 2021 13: 37
    +1
    This nerve games will not take any real action in the Baltic, but it is quite possible to rekindle the frozen conflict in Ukraine, and with the subsequent accusation of Russian aggression, construction will be stopped in the last kilometers
  • ioan-e
    ioan-e April 2 2021 13: 55
    0
    Liberal press of Europe: There will be no threats to the gas pipeline from the side of warships if the SP-2 simply stops building

    And if the European liberal journalists rip off their hands and rip out their tongues, they will cease to blame Russia?
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  • Berg berg
    Berg berg April 2 2021 17: 22
    +1
    There will be no threats to Nord Stream 2 as soon as Russia immediately stops pumping it through Ukraine! After that, all of Europe will immediately rush to bring the pipes with their hands in order to finish it as soon as possible!
  • iouris
    iouris April 2 2021 19: 13
    0
    This is elementary, Watson: if Germany didn’t need it, then the SP-2 wouldn’t be built.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 2 2021 19: 34
    0
    Andriy Minin, director of the branch of Nord Stream 2 AG: “The most dangerous actions took place at the end of March, when at night a ship with Polish fishermen, not responding to radio communications, was going to collide with the barge Fortuna. And only that one of our courts, having defended itself, did not allow this. A bulk was made on this ship. They did not allow a major disaster. ”The incident was filmed from the escort vessel Vladislav Strizhov. A small launch went into the frontal, turned at the last moment, hit on a tangent and almost capsized itself. Then, when the Poles sailed away, their captain still got in touch. "Sorry, we made a mistake." But the next night it all happened again, two Polish seiners tried to board the Russian pipelayer, they were intercepted in time.
    at the same time, according to international standards, a one and a half mile safety zone is established around the site of offshore construction. You cannot dive, fly, swim and fish there.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 2 2021 19: 35
    0
    The scheme of entry into the Baltic was skated during the parade. Give some more help from the marines and the BOD, and the situation will definitely calm down. I would like to laugh at how this husk will ram "Peter the Great" (aspirated). laughing
  • Earthwalker
    Earthwalker April 2 2021 21: 40
    0
    How simple they are, these media. Or maybe there will be no threats to SP-2, if you do not arrange provocations and do not ram the vessels participating in the laying of pipes with fishing vessels. The liberal media do not think about this.
  • certero
    certero April 3 2021 10: 11
    0
    Quote: mojohed2012
    As soon as SP-2 is launched, gas will stop flowing through the GTS Krajina to Pshekia.
    This means that the Poles will no longer receive gesheft from the resale of our gas.
    Okay Pshekia - the EU will support it financially, but Krajina? How will the budget revenues from the loss of transit through the GTS be replenished?
    And, of course, there are a bunch of examples - you can cut the latter off from citizens, or you can motivate them to work abroad, even in the west, even in the east. And on the transfers of migrant workers, you can somehow keep the economy. In Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, they somehow keep up with Kyrgyzstan ...

    Unfortunately, these are only dreams. Gazprom has signed a contract with Ukraine for pumping gas up to 24 years in which it guarantees a certain volume.
  • svoit
    svoit April 3 2021 12: 21
    0
    Quote: mojohed2012
    This means that the Poles will no longer receive gesheft from the resale of our gas.

    They will receive gesheft from the resale of American gas, they do not care from whom and on what they receive it
  • svoit
    svoit April 3 2021 12: 23
    0
    Quote: certero
    gas pumping contract up to 24 years

    Well, we do not have a May calendar, and the world will not end on this number, unless, of course, everyone goes to heaven.
  • maiman61
    maiman61 April 3 2021 19: 00
    0
    What asshole wants to threaten the pipeline on warships? Anyone wanting to die?
  • Vdi73
    Vdi73 April 4 2021 08: 11
    +1
    Where is the Russian Navy? Lyakhov should be drowned for a long time. Warn once, they won't understand, send to Poseidon.
  • Fisherman
    Fisherman April 4 2021 10: 53
    0
    The hyenas of Europe have taken advantage of the absence of our navy, which is concentrated to strike in the Mediterranean. We need to build more corvettes !!!
  • storm
    storm April 4 2021 13: 52
    0
    Where are the vaunted anti-piracy ships of the project 22160, at least a couple of them must constantly cover the construction of the North Stream from the morose American henchmen ...
  • boinac
    boinac April 11 2021 18: 57
    0
    Transfer a couple of three squadrons of Tu-22M to Kaliningrad and joke especially zealous ones. also within the framework of international agreements.
  • Evgenii Xolod
    Evgenii Xolod April 13 2021 00: 46
    0
    Or when a couple of three ships accidentally sink.
  • Alexey Kurilov_2
    Alexey Kurilov_2 April 16 2021 15: 57
    0
    the position of Germany is not clear After all, JV 2 is its gas pipeline Wasn't there a desire of Germany itself before the laying?
  • Evgenii Xolod
    Evgenii Xolod April 24 2021 13: 08
    0
    Um, is this already a declaration of war?
    As the Poles do not want to lose money for transit, they already get sick.
  • Sedoi zmei
    Sedoi zmei April 26 2021 17: 22
    0
    The calculation is simple - to force Russia to send its warships to defend the SP-2! And then they say that Russia, under the pretext of protecting the pipeline, wants to increase its military presence in these waters! Further hysteria in the Western media and the stop "SP-2".