Operator: Unidentified submarine could damage the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline

In the area of ​​the completion of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, an increased activity of foreign warships, including a submarine, was noted. This was reported by the operator of the Nord Stream 2 AG project.

The company emphasizes that foreign warships can interfere with the laying of the pipeline, and the actions of the submarine could damage the Fortuna pipe-laying barge and the gas pipeline itself under construction. The submarine could touch the anchor lines of the barge, thereby incapacitating them.

Given that Fortuna's anchor lines are located more than one mile away, the actions of the submarine could disable the entire anchor positioning system of the pipe-lay barge and lead to emergency damage to the pipeline.

- said the company.

Andrei Minin, the director of the branch of the pipeline operator Nord Stream 2 AG, said that a 2,4 km safety zone was established in the pipeline construction area, which should not be entered by vessels not participating in the work. Despite this, attempts to hinder construction continue.

We are talking about clearly planned and prepared provocations (...) This is perhaps the first and unprecedented case of this kind in stories

- he added.

It is specified that Poland is particularly active. An anti-submarine aircraft PZL-Mielec М-28В1 Rbi is flying in the construction area, a Polish warship was included in the zone. In addition, constant provocations are arranged by Polish fishermen, invading the work area both during the day and at night.

Comments

[hrych]

Collision of a submarine with cables and a pipe will lead to the death of the submarine Therefore, in order to save the crew of the Poles from this, you need to mine around

[Dodikson]

and hint to the "partners" that mines from the Great Patriotic War may emerge on the way of their LNG transports

[Piramidon]

Quote: Dodikson

hint to the "partners" that mines from the Second World War may surface on the way of their LNG transports

It will be necessary to have steel faberges and not to hint, but to act. WWII mines can be organized

[antivirus]

we have torpedoes of the wrong system - they will not reach their aircraft and submarines (see Klimov). everything is lost. Shoigu has no sea mines from WWII even in the storehouse. and new ones cannot be used.

[kventinasd]

Quote: antivirus

and new ones cannot be used.

And who told you this, or will you climb up to get the wreckage of the submarine in search of new Shoigu mines?

[antivirus]

do you work as a loader? immediately on you ............................................

[kventinasd]

Nope. Studied at Harvard, everything is on the "you"

[Looking for]

a lot of honor for you.

[ksv36]

I see your joke is not understood. What, some Chelyabens are sitting?

[Anzhey V.]

I see your joke is not understood. laughing What, are some Chelyabens sitting?

Why are you so bad about Chelyabinsk citizens, sir?)

[antivirus]

Rescuers of the homeland (with a small) need humor to understand the commander's order.
do it as hotzza and name it - as I understand it ..
and not to understand another opinion.

[ksv36]

and new ones cannot be used

The northern dogs will come to everyone - is called. Well, or a scribe. In short, the lid.

[ksv36]

What kind of connecting rod bear is walking here with minus 1?

[Thrifty]

Hrych, yes, screw that boat up with a pipe so that the pipe comes to the boat, sticks to the pipe, from the pipe and sinks (inadvertently )!

[hrych]

Fortune's cables are a terrible thing for propellers, rudders, etc. The pipe is not just steel, thick-walled and of large diameter, but also covered with a concrete jacket to be less than zero buoyancy. A kind of reinforced concrete with a steel core This can only be blown up, and the boat will collide, like crashing into a wall Although desperate Poles love to shoot down trees with airplanes.

[alex neym_2]

We'll cut the cable, drill the pipe, and we won't stop messing up, maybe the mattress covers will throw a top-secret one ... and we will drive the submarine to Sweden, and we will make a request: Russian!

[hrych]

So here the Poles not only for us, but also for the 4th Reich "Casus belli" The best reason for the next, routine, constantly-systematic partition of Poland

[alex neym_2]

What does the Poles have to do with it? This is a submarine from the steppes of Kherson! If I'm not mistaken, somewhere on ... near the locks of the Dnieper (river) there is "Varshavyanka", decommissioned, donated by Putin to Ukraine as a monument ... but it did not fit into the sluice in size ... and it stands ... restless. ..

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Not every country is lucky to have one submarine. Although old and rusty, but still ...)

[antivirus]

for the partition of Austria is far away. The Slovaks are unlikely to pull ......................................... ....
you can tighten up Bandera residents

[rusich]

The Poles still have submarines, similar to the submarines. They cannot go to sea

[Ryaruav]

never underestimate enemies, the enemy is cunning, dodgy and desperate

[Dodikson]

they had newer ones from the Scandinavians

[ROSS_51]

Quote: rusich

The Poles still have submarines, similar to the submarines. They cannot go to sea

Excellent, their submarines go out to sea - in the roadstead of Gdansk, I myself saw it once. They have a couple of used German ones.

[Maz]

And I'm racking my head where my friend has gone, where he is. Painfully his profession is specific. Operator of control of an underwater deep-sea complex, and specialization in the protection, reconnaissance and defense of underwater special objects and water defense areas

[onstar9]

Well, the Russian ships are also "buzzing" sometimes. Either the cables for international communication will be cut at the bottom of the ocean, or they have recently been cut off and some kind of device was stolen from an underwater installation from the Europeans. So now they are "banging" too ....

[hound]

In strangers ter. waters? Oh well. the depth of analysis is striking.

[cniza]

We are talking about clearly planned and prepared provocations (...) This is perhaps the first and unprecedented case of this kind in history

It is necessary to protect and not delay with this ...

[Dodikson]

a couple of frigates or corvettes and PLO turntables.
and explain to everyone that if someone crawls FOR the permitted border, they will be drowned like terrorists

[BIABIA]

The works are carried out in the waters of Denmark and Germany. Where will the Russian warships come from? If only these countries will allow, won't they? Let the Danes and the Germans (primarily the Germans) take care of the problem. They have lawlessness in their waters.

[Dodikson]

Danes will deliberately work poorly

[Alex777]

The Danes closed their main well. For several years.
Something is being restored. She covered more than 70% of their needs. They really need our gas more than anyone else in the EU.
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6900623

[cniza]

Only the Germans are attracted, ours can be in neutral waters, and then ...

[Avior]

It is unclear how and who in this case determined the presence of the submarine?
Probably, the work is carried out not in the territorial waters, but in the exclusive economic zone

[Brturin]

Quote: BIABIA

The works are carried out in the waters of Denmark and Germany.

these are not terrorists, but the economic zone and the right of free passage have not been canceled ...

[venik]

Quote: BIABIA

Works are carried out in the waters of Denmark and Germany

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В territorial?? In my opinion you are confusing something - in economic zone! There - yes, any economic activity only with the permission of the country. And shipping - p-w-w-alsta! Whether civilian ships, even warships!

[ccsr]

Quote: BIABIA

The works are carried out in the waters of Denmark and Germany. Where will the Russian warships come from?

The work is not carried out in territorial waters, so no one can forbid the sailing of our warships there. Therefore, it is advisable to drive at least one combat ship from Kaliningrad - this will immediately cool the ardor of the Poles.

[sharp-lad]

While work is being carried out in the exclusive economic zone, and not in state waters, the military can guard. In the state waters of Germany and Denmark, psheks will not dare to appear without an invitation.

[boni592807]

It is necessary with partners for the construction and "development" of future snacks from "SP-2" (Germany and its companies have invested in the project-beneficiary in Europe) insure for X .. a good amount of EVERYTHING that is associated with "SP-2" (from the vessels of the handlers to the "product" itself with the supply vessels. WHAT WOULD COMPENSATION FOR POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES was given the cost from the point of design to loss of profits in the event of damage "somewhere" with the fixation of "unidentified" ships and involved participants. RF is able to provide THIS.
"Partners" вalways WELL understood, only 2 thingsand -punishment with BIG money and argumentation with the ARGUMENT under the nose or in ...
But, first, start with money ... And then, only another CARE, the United States can do dirty tricks, through Poland, and RF + connect interest Germany(and the rudeness of the "gentlemen" and now "SP-2" in Germany will be "appreciated" with pleasure). I'm sure they haven't forgotten the Poles' demands for compensation for WW2) hand we are embarrassed to SUPPLY OWN money ?! ЕIf Poland "fly" for BIG money(will play a dirty trick on an adult), tthey will gladly rip it off as sticky and REMEMBER about the money for post-Soviet reforms.
The United States will not get into these problems .... Germany is more expensive for them, and "old" Europe (France, Italy, ...) will "evaluate" and figure out for itself ...

[Avior]

... insure for X .. a good amount of EVERYTHING that is associated with the "SP-2" (from the ships of the handlers to the "product" itself with the supply ships.

There are some problems with insurance. The statesmen threatened to send sanctions to the insurers and they somehow changed their minds to insure.
So now it is not entirely clear who will be the insurer.

[fruc]

These are not terrorists, but Polish assholes shit.

[cniza]

In the waters of Denmark or Germany?

[kenig1]

Data as of March 31st.

"Akademik Chersky" will operate on the line with the longest unfinished section. It will lay 68,5 kilometers of the gas pipeline in Danish waters, and 16,5 kilometers in German waters.

The barge "Fortuna", meanwhile, has already passed the 26,5 km line. She has 23,5 km to complete in Danish waters and 13,9 km in German waters.

[venik]

Quote: frruc

These are not terrorists, but Polish assholes shit.

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I don’t understand .... And WHAT principled difference??

[fruc]

In this case, there is no fundamental difference, with all the ensuing consequences.

[Ryaruav]

Dodik buddy tell us how many frigates Russia currently has in service and where they are based

[Dodikson]

on BF 4 corvettes 20380

[Ryaruav]

but not frigates, and you are sure all 4 are in service, or how

[Dodikson]

what exactly was not clear for you in the sentence
"a couple of frigates or corvettes and PLO turntables." ?
and yes, 20380 workers and they are in the ranks

[Ryaruav]

dodik we don't have a couple of frigates in, and if we take the terms of the imperial navy of russia, then in the baltic we have a training detachment of ships and experimental ships plus repair and training of personnel and hydrography in lomonosov

[kventinasd]

Quote: Ryaruav

and if we take the terms of the imperial navy of russia

And who taught you to write the name of the state with a small letter or education does not allow?

[venik]

Quote: Ryaruav

Dodik buddy tell us how many frigates Russia currently has in service and where they are based

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Total - 11 (frigates + TFR). Specifically in the Baltic - 2 TFR + 4 corvettes.

[knn54]

Something anecdote remembered:
A peacefully plowing tractor was fired on from Chinese territory today. The tractor fired a return salvo, as a result of which several barracks were destroyed. In an interview, the collective farm chairman, Major General Ivanov, said that if such a provocation repeats, vertical take-off and landing combines will leave the field.

[barclay]

[/ quote] This is perhaps the first and unprecedented case of this kind in history [quote]

And, perhaps, not the last ...

[NF68]

Presumably, the area where the SP-2 is located should not be badly guarded. And the site where the laying work is underway, even more so.

[Thrifty]

These are other people's tervods! How are they guarded, if the polyakhia is there like the house? We need "impolite people" with a military excuse, capable of setting the brains in the fields and other things, by driving them through the fifth point with a crowbar, at least! And I wish the submarine a speedy drowning, I don’t want to wish the submarine anything else!

[AVA77]

You shouldn't be like that, maybe the boat doesn't shit, but looks after. It's just that civilians don't know (Andrey Minin). Or maybe it was specially merged to indicate presence.

[cniza]

Well yes :

When implementing such projects, a mandatory safety zone is established, as a rule, this is a 1,5-mile border, beyond which vessels not participating in construction should not enter. Nevertheless, warships of foreign states are constantly recorded next to the technical vessels carrying out work. It has also become common for foreign aircraft to fly around the work area at low altitude and at a close distance from the pipe-laying vessel. This distinguishes, for example, the Polish anti-submarine aircraft PZL-Mielec М-28В1 Rbi.

In particular, foreign activity around the gas pipeline zone has intensified recently. The builders even saw the submarine - it was not possible to identify it, but its actions could easily disable the entire rebuilt and debugged system of laying the gas pipeline. And on March 29, a Polish Navy warship with tactical number 823 cut circles around the "Fortuna".

"The support vessel" Spasatel Karev "was forced to follow a parallel course, accompanying the warship," Minin added.

According to an additional representative of the company, another dangerous incident occurred on February 22 during pipelaying south of the Danish island of Bornholm. The Polish fishing vessel SWI-106 entered the work protection zone from the south. Repeated attempts to establish radio contact with him were unsuccessful.

In this situation, the supply vessel "Vladislav Strizhev" was forced to enter the pushback course, as a result of which SWI-106 made a bulk on the "Vladislav Strizhev". After the collision, the captain of the fishing vessel got in touch and pleaded guilty to the incident. The negotiations are recorded.

"If it were not for the decisive actions of the supply vessel, the blow would have hit the pipe-laying barge Fortuna. A naval protest was announced through the Russian consulate in Germany on this incident," Minin added.

[AVA77]

So with ships and airplanes it is all the same, with the boat it is muddy. We cannot send our ships there (other people's terrorists), but the boat can even get through.

[cniza]

In this puddle it is very difficult, and the boat must go on the surface ...

[AVA77]

I can't say anything about the depths, it would be interesting to know. Well, somehow this boat crawled there.

[Ryaruav]

I suppose it was spotted at a great distance and it is unlikely that someone will go to war from Europe, and the amers' apl will not poke their death there

[AVA77]

Photos have already appeared, indeed the boat on the surface looks like a diesel engine

[cniza]

And there only deluxes can walk ...

[matross]

Quote: AVA77

We cannot send our ships there (other people's tervods), but the boat can get through.

We can. These are not territorial waters, but an exclusive economic zone. No need to climb. The guards must be demonstrative, symmetrical to the threat.

[mikh-korsakov]

Thrifty. These are not territorial waters, but an economic zone - and there is freedom of navigation.

[Dmt]

Not! You need to insure with the same Americans, let them send their PMCs to security. Anything cheaper than putting your own ships on guard.

[cniza]

The fact of the matter is that they intimidated all insurers with sanctions ...

[Dmt]

So you need to look for the fearless and greedy.

[cniza]

No, it's just that security will be cheaper ...

[Victor Tsenin]

I think this is April 1st? Some kind of theater of absurdity and insolence)

[Brturin]

Quote: Victor Tsenin

I think this is April 1st? Some kind of theater of absurdity and insolence)

As for the submarine, the wheelhouse was shown, but the ships and aircraft are not in the first place - Yesterday, March 17, in the afternoon, the patrol ship "Diana" (P520) of the Royal Danish Navy left the port of Korser at the Great Belt Bridge at the entrance to the Baltic Sea and in a day reached the island of Bornholm, to the south-west of which the pipe-laying barge Fortuna, with the support of three supply vessels, is building Nord Stream 2. According to the navigation portal Marinetraffic, at a distance of eight nautical miles, the Danish patrol ship stopped transmitting an automatic identification system (AIS) signal. And he turned it on almost an hour later — about five miles from Fortuna. During this time, at a speed of 13 knots, Diana could approach the maximum permitted distance to Russian ships of one and a half miles, which were established by the Danish Maritime Authority to create a security zone for the work, and inspect the ships and build the project from a closer distance.
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/03/18/vms-danii-proverili-kak-fortuna-dostraivaet-severnyy-potok-2
You can still find it, but with the bulk on our icebreaker it is already "impudence"

[Victor Tsenin]

And what kind of bulk on the icebreaker, how did you miss it?

[Brturin]

Above, Viktor (cniza) cited "In this situation, the supply vessel" Vladislav Strizhev "was forced to enter a pushback course, as a result of which SWI-106 made a bulk on the" Vladislav Strizhev "- a multifunctional icebreaking vessel (MFLS) Vladislav Strizhov ... "icebreaker" may have prepared for such incidents

[Storog dvornik]

For a group of ships of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Navy to go to the area of ​​the work being performed, the Varshavyanka submarine to lie on the ground ... to be guarded, to declare a no-fly zone in connection with the "proven" threat of a terrorist attack from the "green" activists ...
I am such a smart sailor of the KChF of the USSR, or is there smarter in the RF Ministry of Defense ...

[From Tomsk]

The closer the construction is finished, the more obvious is that the Americans include all levers, including military provocations, just to delay commissioning.
However, the end of 404 is just around the corner.

[Undecim]

"On March 29, a Polish Navy warship (tactical number 823) performed maneuvers around Fortuna."
Andrei Minin, director of the Nord Stream 2 AG branch, told Interfax.
In the Polish Navy under the number 823 - large landing craft "Krakow".

True, he can perform the functions of a minelayer and carry up to 130 minutes. Are the Poles laying mines in the territorial waters of Germany and Denmark?

[Constanty]

Submarine could touch the anchor lines of the barge, thereby incapacitating them.

Given the fact that the anchor lines of "Fortuna" are located at a distance of more than one mile, the actions of the submarine РјРѕРіР »Ryo disable the entire anchor positioning system of the pipe-lay barge and cause accidental damage to the pipeline

Not some hypothetical operation, but rather the provocative article above.

Could she or did she? Because this is a fundamental difference.
If there is no damage, then what about?

[Volodin]

Quote: Constanty

Not some hypothetical operation, but rather the provocative article above.

Could she or did she? Because this is a fundamental difference.
If there is no damage, then what about?

Imagine your own reaction if a submarine began maneuvering near your facility ... And if a Russian one was "found", it would be a cry - and sanctions, sanctions, sanctions ...

[Constanty]

This situation is common. These are Russian planes flying over American ships, or a very close "escort" of American planes.
Then the Western press (including the Polish one) writes about provocations.

In my opinion, this exaggeration is rather a “play of nerves” and a manifestation of the true skill of Russian pilots.

By the way - I doubt that at the moment any Polish submarine has combat capability and could carry out such an "operation".

[ximkim]

On a hike, the company is the operator of the Nord Stream 2 AG project. Well, it can't be that everyone around is bad and interfering, but she's the only one so white and fluffy.

[antikilller55]

The Europeans themselves cannot sort things out among themselves there, to besiege this Poland, we can only express our concern there.

[sergo1914]

Send several dozen people to Poland on vacation and stupidly fill the faces of everyone who confesses that he is a submariner. Asymmetrical answer.

[Ros 56]

And where are our ships guarding the area of ​​work, so that life does not seem like honey to the lyakham?

[orionvitt]

This is perhaps the first and unprecedented case of this kind in history.

It’s strange. I think that just for this case, there is the Red Banner Baltic Fleet. This is exactly in his competence.

[onstar9]

Quote: orionvitt

This is perhaps the first and unprecedented case of this kind in history.
It’s strange. I think that just for this case, there is the Red Banner Baltic Fleet. This is exactly in his competence.

No, there were cases when someone Chihara cut the cables at the bottom of the sea among the Europeans. They say Russian ships did it ... So it happened ...

[rusich]

Preferably, the anti-submarine forces of the Baltic Fleet should be posted for protection. But the territorial waters of the European Union. Hardly Allowed

[Gennady Fomkin]

lose ammunition during the Second World War.

[tralflot1832]

Where pipe-laying vessels work is only the economic zone of Denmark and the Federal Republic of Germany. As noted by the submarine, by the re-scope, or it surfaced, if it surfaced, then this is the height of idiocy. So far, everything is solved diplomatically from the beginning, and if the Baltic Fleet is not far from Baltiysk, but if the aviation Someone will rise up sickly. For anchor lines, do not worry there is such a diameter of the cable. When I worked in fishermen, they did not like nuclear submarines, and even more so submarines in the trawling areas of fishermen to be.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: BIABIA

The works are carried out in the waters of Denmark and Germany. Where will the Russian warships come from? If only these countries will allow, won't they? Let the Danes and the Germans (primarily the Germans) take care of the problem. They have lawlessness in their waters.

Territorial waters are only 22 km from the coast.

[Gennady Fomkin]

It's cheaper to hire Somali pirates. If it is tight for them, we will take prisoner and grant amnesty.

[Gennady Fomkin]

And it must be - as in time! Straight out of the blue, the aggravation of talkativeness among our neo-Bolsheviks. The main idea is "and we must fight for yachts and foreign accounts !?" 

[opuonmed]

boat sotilith or usa!

[lis-ik]

Well, the Swedish syndrome began (when they were looking for a non-existent boat). To a bad dancer .... the propaganda has completely disappeared.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Sabotage is too much, after this, trouble can happen to the gas carriers. There is an unidentified underwater object "ice floe" iceberg that broke away from the glacier in a submerged position ripped the bottom of the gas carrier and carried out rescue operations by the forces of the Baltic fleet

[Gennady Fomkin]

It's time to arrange live fires in the Strait of Hormuz against the Barbary and Algerian pirates who attacked the Qatari gas carrier

[Gennady Fomkin]

Hurray comrades, the gas war about which the Bolsheviks talked and dreamed of.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Well, almost all of them play on the stock exchange. Even benefits manage to "invest in stocks." All this reminds of the last days of MMM, while everyone still believes that they are not freeloaders, suckers, but partners. 

[agond]

If there are repeated incidents with the bulk of the pipelayer, it can be seriously damaged and even sink along with the pipe ... ... it will be necessary to react to the actions of our European partners ... ... for example, without clarifying the guilt of specific performers, recognize this act as collective unfriendly actions on the part of the European Union as a whole and declare retaliatory sanctions against it
1 withdraw from the jurisdiction of the European Commercial Court of Arbitration
2 to unilaterally revise the previously assumed obligations on gas supplies to Europe
need to benefit from the current situation

[Lara Croft]

They say that underground earthquakes have become more frequent in the Gulf of Mexico near the oil platforms belonging to "BP" there may be accidents again ... they probably lie ...

[Brturin]

Do not ... lie ... it is better to protect the environment ... there is an opinion that the last accident on the Gulf Stream affected, and we need it ... but to support the Eskimos of Greenland or "stir up" a referendum in Bavaria ...

[BAI]

constant provocations are arranged by Polish fishermen, invading the work area both during the day and at night.

In a brazen attempt to ram the barge. I have to drive away with an icebreaker.

[ksv36]

What is the article about? As an ordinary Russian (as we are called), I absolutely do not care what happened to this stream. He is fleeing Russia, and not vice versa. So, now, in my pocket it will only decrease with this flow. and not vice versa. The GAZPREM company is doing well. And they have subsidies from effective rulers, and they have us, at a price as in Europe. And we just shake our heads. Some from side to side, and some from top to bottom. It's time to swing in one direction. Consensus is needed.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ksv36

It's time to swing in one direction. Consensus is needed.

Pick up and share? I think if an amendment was made to the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the ownership of the subsoil to the Russians (as we are called), then the consensus on the adoption of this amendment would have been among 145 million Russians .... but it did not work out .... okay wait, older comrades are not eternal , the people of the most troubled country are eternal ...

[ksv36]

I'm fifty dollars. And I would like to see how they are quartered. History is not interesting. Hotzza live .. And then the pension is not needed. The main thing is to SEE.

[ksv36]

You did not understand. I said shake our heads. Either left to right, or from top to bottom.

[riwas]

And I warned:

We need to take measures to protect the construction of SP-2

https://topwar.ru/180283-psaki-zajavila-chto-ostanovit-stroitelstvo-gazoprovoda-sp-2-mozhno-ne-tolko-s-pomoschju-sankcij.html#comment-id-11263339

[1536]

Where is our fleet? We all decide which ships to build and which not to build?

[bar]

And why are our ships not there to ensure the safety of navigation? Why do we have a reaction like a dinosaur - until the tail is chewed off, we do not feel pain?

[Alexy]

And who will tell me where the DKBF is looking ???