In NATO: Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan

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The day before, the Western press pointed out the "growing activity of the Russian military aviation at the borders of NATO ”. NATO has already completely lost touch with reality, forgetting that Russian planes are often forced to appear “at NATO's borders” for the simple reason that NATO has already come close to the borders of Russia.

It was also reported that in just a week, NATO aircraft took to the air to intercept aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces at least 10 times.



As indicated in the reports, there was also "escort by Turkish fighters of Russian combat aircraft over the Black Sea."

From NATO's statement:

The escort and surveillance was carried out by the Turkish Air Force planes together with the Romanian and Bulgarian Air Force planes. It ended when the Russian aviation left the area. The planes climbed up for escort, since the actions of the Russian aviation could pose a danger to civilian airliners. Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan. They also do not report coordinates and flight levels.

And do the same Turkish combat aircraft or, for example, the strategic bombers of the US Air Force, which often appear at the borders of Russia, transmit such information to Russian air traffic controllers? Do they report their flight plans and exact coordinates?

Earlier it was noted that NATO aviation activity near Russian air borders has grown by about 3 times over the past 10 years. US Air Force strategic bombers are flying in the international airspace corridor between the individual Kuril Islands, trying to demonstrate their non-recognition of the South Kuril Islands as part of Russia. But when aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces appear, for example, in the region of Alaska and the Aleutian Islands, the Pentagon often speaks of "unprofessional and dangerous actions of Russian pilots." The actions of their own pilots, even when they "lose" fuel tanks or ammunition in flight, are always "professional and safe" in NATO.
  • VKontakte / Ministry of Defense of Russia
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  1. +40
    April 1 2021 08: 06
    Can you also provide them with a certificate of vaccination of domestic cats ?!
    1. +9
      April 1 2021 08: 12
      If they come out, then on the Great Mighty ... It's even scary to imagine, for what reason! wink hi
      1. +31
        April 1 2021 08: 16
        NATO: Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide them with a flight plan

        And we are not some kind of tours to notify you about plans and routes ...

        No what , of course, it would be funny to watch how the stunned Euro controller will receive data on the departure targets from the Tu-160 crew laughing (educational feel )
        1. +14
          April 1 2021 08: 23
          This is reminiscent of the desire of amers that Iran send them the location of its nuclear facilities, so that the Americans decide which of them need to be closed !!! laughing
          And then tell them (dispatchers from the EU) the departure time, route, frequencies for communication ... can you also provide them with friend or foe identification systems so that they do not worry in vain?
        2. +1
          April 1 2021 08: 29
          Quote: Divan-batyr
          No what, of course it would be funny to watch how the stunned Euro controller receives data on the flight targets from the Tu-160 crew laughing (training feel)
          Flight targets, target coordinates, and only then add - TRAINING! laughing
          1. +3
            April 1 2021 09: 40
            and you can also ask the dispatcher what goals he could offer and serve along the proposed route to the goal.
            1. +2
              April 1 2021 10: 44
              And get the answer: “Your goal. I authorize work. "
              1. +7
                April 1 2021 12: 17
                N-yes. It's just that dispatcher Huang actually turned out to be a BU officer, Captain Ivanov. laughing
        3. +2
          April 1 2021 08: 29
          - They also do not report coordinates and flight levels.
          Or maybe the keys to ... warehouses. Where is the ammunition stored?
          1. +12
            April 1 2021 09: 01
            "Dispatcher of the Dulles airport. I am aboard the Russian Tu-160. I am flying with a mission to bomb Washington. Please provide a safe train. Meet." wassat
            1. NKT
              +6
              April 1 2021 09: 37
              And then a request to the dispatcher for escorting four separated objects from the Tu-160. ))
            2. +3
              April 1 2021 11: 25
              Quote: prior
              "Dispatcher of the Dulles airport. I am aboard the Russian Tu-160. I am flying with a mission to bomb Washington. Please provide a safe train. Meet." wassat

              Yes ah um .. Biden kaput and obscenities ..)))

              This is a joke !
              1. +2
                April 1 2021 17: 27
                There is a joke in every joke
          2. +2
            April 1 2021 22: 52
            Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan. They also do not report coordinates and flight levels.

            Infection.
            The eye fell out after reading these lines. Now again, at midnight, look for him in the dark on the floor.
        4. +4
          April 1 2021 09: 19
          how a stunned Euro controller will receive data from the Tu-160 crew about the purpose of the flight laughing (training feel)

          Or combat)
          I imagined how the Americans got in touch with the Germans when approaching Dresden.
          1. +6
            April 1 2021 09: 49
            Quote: Ruslan Sulima
            I imagined how the Americans got in touch with the Germans when approaching Dresden.

            No no No. What are you with your barbaric ideas about Western civilization? Everything is different there, Yes

            Then everything was democratic Yes British Royal Air Force (it was the impudent Saxons who bombed Dresden), informed about the bombing in advance, and the practical and law-abiding Germans set fire to and destroyed the city by themselves ...
            1. +4
              April 1 2021 09: 54
              and practical and law-abiding Germans set fire to and destroyed the city by themselves ...

              At the same time, they covered themselves with children and women, which is why the famous aces bombed only the arsonists, trying to save Dresden ...
              1. +2
                April 1 2021 09: 58
                Quote: Ruslan Sulima
                At the same time, they covered themselves with children and women, which is why the famous aces bombed only the arsonists, trying to save Dresden ...

                Always for mutual understanding of the combat arms Yes drinks
                And about this - "What are you with your barbaric ideas about Western civilization? ", proceeded from the imperishable:
                1. +1
                  April 1 2021 10: 50
                  And on this account - "What are you with your barbaric ideas about Western civilization?", Proceeded from the imperishable


                  It didn't work) And so what to expect from me, a descendant of the inhabitants of the Wild Field, in which such a heap of blood is mixed) At the same time, I am Russian)

                  Well, about

                  British Royal Air Force (it was the impudent Saxons who bombed Dresden)


                  And they too, but do not forget about this.

                  On February 14, from 12:17 to 12:30, 311 American Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress bombers dropped 771 tons of bombs, targeting railroad fleets. On the same day, part of the bombers heading for Dresden, but lost their course, bombed Prague. On February 15, American aircraft dropped 466 tons of bombs. Part of the American P-51 fighters were ordered to attack targets moving along the roads in order to increase the chaos and destruction on the important transport network of the region [18]. There is evidence that civilians fleeing the fire were attacked by American fighters. The historian Goetz Bergander disputes the veracity of these reports [19] [20]. During the American Air Force raid, air battles took place between cover fighters and German aircraft. It is possible that some of them could be mistaken for attacks on civilians [21].

                  After that, the US Air Force carried out two more bombing raids. On March 2, 406 B-17 bombers dropped 940 tons of high-explosive bombs and 141 tons of incendiary bombs. On April 17, 580 B-17 bombers dropped 1554 tons of high-explosive and 165 tons of incendiary bombs [4].
                  1. +4
                    April 1 2021 10: 56
                    Quote: Ruslan Sulima

                    It didn't work) And so what to expect from me, a descendant of the inhabitants of the Wild Field, in which such a heap of blood is mixed) At the same time, I am Russian)

                    It's not the same for everybody what ...

                    But it was written about us, and for a long time Yes - "the product of two environments", the borderline "Wild Field", which absorbed a "heap of blood" ...
                    1. +3
                      April 1 2021 11: 10
                      It's not the same for everybody...

                      It's just that now it is no longer relevant) Hordes are roaming to Europe from other directions, we cannot become a shield for Europe in this situation.
                      Yes, and the phrases we will leave, stop, go to the Ural Mountains, somehow they sound played out)

                      We have now become more of a shield specifically for the Ural Mountains from the European Horde)

                      Although, there is one thing in common - that then, that now we were considered the source of evil, because they never agreed to fight according to European concepts - I scratched your face with my sword! - You are the winner, I bow before you.
                      We somehow got used to breaking the sword with a club and fighting not to the first blood, but to the death.
                      What am I telling you, you know yourself)
            2. +1
              April 1 2021 12: 37
              Quote: Insurgent
              Then everything was democratic. British Royal Air Force (it was the impudent Saxons who bombed Dresden)

              Dresden was bombed by both the limes and the Yankees.
              It was just that the Yankees bombed during the day and chose warehouses and railway junctions as their targets. But due to the low drop accuracy (even with the Nordens), the bombs hit the residential area as well.
              But limes were bombed at night, and residential areas were initially chosen as the target. The bombing plan was clearly calculated: reaching the landmark (stadium), turning on its own course for each squadron and dropping at the end of its time. As a result, the dropped bombs were more or less evenly distributed over the center of the city.
        5. +2
          April 1 2021 09: 50
          Quote: Divan-batyr
          Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide them with a flight plan

          Euro controllers should be sent to Russian language courses to build good relations
        6. +2
          April 1 2021 09: 57
          Quote: Divan-batyr
          NATO: Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide them with a flight plan

          And we are not some kind of tours to notify you about plans and routes ...

          No what , of course, it would be funny to watch how the stunned Euro controller will receive data on the departure targets from the Tu-160 crew laughing (educational feel )


          What about? Today (April 1) it would be possible to report! laughing
        7. +1
          April 1 2021 15: 40
          Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan

          Military aviation does not have to contact the air traffic control bodies of other states, if the aircraft does not cross the state. the grones of a neighboring country. They also want to be presented with flight plans !!!!
          Well ridiculed fellow
        8. 0
          April 13 2021 23: 42
          A second before ...
      2. +3
        April 1 2021 08: 56
        The day before, the Western press pointed to "the growing activity of Russian military aircraft near NATO borders."

        As I understand it, we must move the borders away from NATO countries for their safe expansion. These radishes out of touch with reality play with fire.
      3. +1
        April 1 2021 09: 43
        Quote: xorek
        If they do, then on the Great Mighty ...

        How can you, it will be an act of aggression on the air, their delicate psyche will not stand it laughing get depressed.
    2. +8
      April 1 2021 08: 23
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Can you also provide them with a certificate of vaccination of domestic cats ?!

      If the vaccination Sputnik VU , then yes lol
      1. +2
        April 1 2021 09: 58
        Quote: Divan-batyr
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Can you also provide them with a certificate of vaccination of domestic cats ?!

        If the vaccination Sputnik VU , then yes

        SputnikV is very undemocratic, it doesn't suit them lol and figs with them ...
    3. +4
      April 1 2021 08: 24
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Can you also provide them with a certificate of vaccination of domestic cats ?!

      And also the keys to the apartment where the money is. Well, or "at worst" the plans of the General Staff
      1. -1
        April 1 2021 09: 11
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Can you also provide them with a certificate of vaccination of domestic cats ?!

        And also the keys to the apartment where the money is. Well, or "at worst" the plans of the General Staff

        Or ciphers "friend or foe" wassat soldier
    4. +4
      April 1 2021 08: 57
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Can you also provide them with a certificate of vaccination of domestic cats ?!

      ========
      good They took it off the tongue! True, the classics immediately came to my mind:

      drinks
    5. +2
      April 1 2021 09: 26
      In NATO: Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan

      Probably have to give a report on the flight plans. Type :
      I have on board so many guided bombs, air-to-air missiles, full ammunition for the cannons. I'm flying to Brussels, give me a corridor!
  2. +4
    April 1 2021 08: 09
    In NATO: Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide them with a flight plan
    Naive, to the point of disgrace! laughing
    1. +9
      April 1 2021 08: 16
      Quote: aszzz888
      Naive, to the point of disgrace!

      No naivety - наглость Yes
      1. 0
        April 1 2021 08: 18
        ivan-batyr
        Today, 08: 16

        0
        Quote: aszzz888
        Naive, to the point of disgrace!

        Not naivety - arrogance yes
        Well, they are threshing under a thing bag, and they think that they will slip through!
    2. +4
      April 1 2021 08: 22
      Maybe they still have the keys to the apartment where the money is to throw off belay Lavrov is right.
  3. +2
    April 1 2021 08: 18
    In NATO: Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan
    Oh they made fun of ... as if they provide laughing
  4. +5
    April 1 2021 08: 19
    Let Nata write a complaint to Sport Lotto.
  5. +2
    April 1 2021 08: 23
    And that NATO chicks with turned off transponders often fly over it is nothing? Have patience with the female dog's children. They asked for it themselves.
  6. +5
    April 1 2021 08: 25
    The most surprising and unpleasant thing about this is that pilots of the Bulgarian Air Force flew to intercept. Those. a country that we defended from the Ottomans, and which for almost 40 years was with us in the same socialist camp ...
    1. 0
      April 1 2021 13: 17
      Quote: Ka-52
      The most surprising and unpleasant thing about this is that pilots of the Bulgarian Air Force flew to intercept. Those. a country that we defended from the Ottomans, and which for almost 40 years was with us in the same socialist camp ...

      And that both world wars were on the other side of the front. smile
      And now ... there is no Bulgaria. There is the Bulgarian state of the European Union, which cannot sneeze without instructions from Brussels.
  7. +2
    April 1 2021 08: 29
    They have not lost touch with reality, but have simply become insolent and continue to blatantly attack our country for any reason. What the audacity to expand your military bloc to our borders and then still demand a flight mission from our pilots protecting the Russian air borders.
  8. +5
    April 1 2021 08: 31
    In NATO: Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan
    ... Our ENEMIES have one goal, to blame the Russians for everything.
    Any excuse, any trifle, if there is nothing, WILL COME UP, LIEU.
    There is a process of pumping up the public opinion of their own and other countries, in a negative way towards everything Russian, for the Chinese and others who do not walk under them, the same thing, and then ... it is clear what will happen next. The enemy is concentrating, preparing ...
    And what are we all, those who were appointed to blame for everything ??? So we will soar in a world of some kind of illusion ???
    1. +3
      April 1 2021 08: 40
      In Ukraine, even children in kindergarten began to be pumped up against Russia.
      1. +3
        April 1 2021 08: 57
        So everything is correct, ideology from the very ... roots.
        To rely on the old brotherhood of the Slavic peoples is at least imprudent! They will poison him, knock him out ... there are many methods.
        If we do not conduct our own offensive, we will lose !!! An experienced, sophisticated enemy will NEVER leave us alone!
        Moreover, their plans are GLOBAL! It is worth taking a closer look at what the Kerry Commission is doing !!! There, a real danger is maturing, at an accelerated pace, moreover!
        It will be cool, tough, scary.
    2. +1
      April 1 2021 08: 52
      Our ENEMIES have one goal, to blame the Russians for everything.
      Any excuse, any trifle, if there is nothing, WILL COME UP, LIEU.

      In fact - while the diplomatic genocide of the Russians is going on, for now.
      While they do not have enough strength for physical genocide, there is no need to harbor any illusions, as soon as they have enough strength, they will immediately begin.
      1. 0
        April 1 2021 09: 16
        Strength, it's ... risky. But you can also do a lot of harm to us in another way.
        We need to look closely at the activities of the Kerry Commission, IT'S SERIOUS !!! If they implement such a plan, then the minke whales will be in chocolate, and the opponents can cause serious economic losses.
        Their plans are tough, global, and they have the ability to implement them, if a really strong coalition of opponents does not oppose these plans. Only together can this be resisted. Separately, they will crush everyone.
  9. +1
    April 1 2021 08: 47
    And who is NATO to report
    1. -1
      April 1 2021 08: 54

      rusich (rusich)
      Today, 08: 47
      NEW
      +1
      And who is NATO to report
      Small-scale carpentry, making nasty things for Russia. wink
  10. +1
    April 1 2021 08: 47
    Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan.
    Yes, not anyhow, but only with Putin's personal signature ... wink
  11. 0
    April 1 2021 08: 53
    In the article, the author missed the last few words, probably could not translate, it happens of course .. The words were not translated. "Not warned of flight path when flying over neutral waters." The meaning of the article changes a little, This can really be a danger for civilian aircraft.
  12. +1
    April 1 2021 08: 54
    In NATO: Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan

    Should they? belay
    You might think that NATO pilots are doing this in relation to Russian air traffic controllers.
  13. 0
    April 1 2021 09: 11
    NATO dispatcher: TU 160 flight course? Answer: Forward! ... Echelon? Set! Purpose of the flight? It was a training mission in the morning !!! Keep in touch, your opinion is very important for our crew of a strategic bomber !!! SOMETHING LIKE THIS.!
  14. -1
    April 1 2021 09: 15
    This geyrope's complaint made the whole of Russia laugh! Well, you have to think of something like that .. laughing Immediately Zadornov remembered the deceased, he would have developed this topic in his speeches .. I still can't laugh laughing laughing bully
  15. 0
    April 1 2021 09: 37
    Let them bark. That's why they are dogs, mad. We need to think about our interests first of all.
  16. 0
    April 1 2021 09: 57
    When it was the military who submitted their flight plans. Should the General Staff cards be laid out before the offensive?
    1. -1
      April 1 2021 12: 57
      Are we already advancing? Are we flying to bomb someone? Is it war already? belay
      And if not, be so kind as to comply with the requirements of international law, if it is spelled out there.
      And references to the fact that "they also fly like this" do not work, because when you are the first or second economy in the world with a bunch of military allies, then you will fly as you want.
      I think our pilots do not get in touch simply due to the fact that our pilots do not speak English and do not know the international rules of radio exchange.
      Different aerobatic teams don't count.
      1. 0
        April 1 2021 13: 02
        Quote: Tavrik
        I think our pilots do not get in touch simply due to the fact that our pilots do not speak English and do not know the international rules of radio exchange.

        There is no need to know complex dialects in the Kazakh language when communicating with the dispatcher. Are you joking?
  17. -1
    April 1 2021 10: 03
    Once they demand, it means they believe that they have the right to demand.
  18. 0
    April 1 2021 10: 23
    do not provide a flight plan
    The question immediately arises, do NATO planes flying near our borders in the Black, Baltic Sea, over Ukraine provide the Russian side with their flight plans? This cynical duplicity and double standards of the Western side pose a real danger to the world. Today they demand flight plans, tomorrow they demand documents from the General Staff of the Russian Federation, and the day after tomorrow what?
  19. -1
    April 1 2021 10: 51
    Something I did not understand the universal laughter. And what is better if instead of asking them they start being knocked down? Visible means vulnerable.
    1. 0
      April 1 2021 12: 30
      Something I didn't understand your "misunderstanding" ... Do you think that NATO "falcons" in the airspace near the Russian borders are "invisible"? .. For this, - "invulnerable"? .. With me, our teacher , recently conducted a small educational program on this subject. I will share with you. At a meeting between the President of Russia and the President of Finland (and that was four years ago ...), the Finnish side conveyed to the Russian side its proposals on ensuring the safety of flights in the airspace over the Baltic Sea. These proposals were developed by Suomi as a reaction to the permanent and deliberately loud "cry of Brussels" about the "dangerous behavior of Russian military aircraft" in the aforementioned airspace. That NATO cry, in form and content, 100% coincided with the current cry, voiced in the article on this thread. Only the sea area and airspace are "different". Russia, in the Finnish proposals, small additions fairly "balancing" the rules of conduct of the parties (NATO Air Force and Russian Aerospace Forces), and already FOUR YEARS ago handed over to the "concerned" NATO members for consideration. The reaction of Brussels and Mons is "ZERO". So what's the problem? .. Where is your intelligible answer, "dull" you are ours? ..
      1. 0
        April 1 2021 15: 42
        Werner Holt. If NATO members send a request when crossing the border, then they are absolutely right, and if they are tolerant of such crossings, then thank God. There can be no other requests.
        1. 0
          April 1 2021 21: 27
          I was hoping for a clear answer ... Which of the NATO member states made an official protest to Russia about the unauthorized "crossing" of Russian military aircraft its borders? Have you read the article? .. What kind of "NATO-vtsy" and on what legal basis, in general, send certain "requests" to Russian military aircraft in international airspace? .. These same "NATO-vtsy" their response to the proposals According to the rules of conduct for NATO military aviation and the Russian Aerospace Forces, transferred to Brussels 4 years ago, were they given to Russia? .. Ah, "not yet"? .. Well, then "NATO-vtsy" are resting on the sidelines. And Russia, tolerant of the presence of NATO military aircraft near its borders, will continue to act according to its plan ...
  20. 0
    April 1 2021 11: 52
    Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan. They also do not report coordinates and flight levels.

    And what, really should?
  21. 0
    April 1 2021 12: 51
    And who knows what international legislation says in terms of flight safety? If you have to get in touch and provide a flight plan - well, then, probably, you need to go out and provide. If they shouldn't, there is nothing to demand.
    1. 0
      April 1 2021 13: 22
      From the point of view of international law. - there is the UN, the UN Charter and sovereign states, members and "non-members" of the UN. That's it ... And all sorts of "NATO" and "EU", from the point of view of international law, are nothing more than "interest clubs". And these clubs, without a UN Security Council mandate, can establish "rules of conduct" only for their members. Any "third" party does not have any "rights" to put forward "formal" claims on behalf of international law. Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov, a long time ago and quite officially on this subject, said: "We do not know what the" NATO borders "are ... For us there are the borders of sovereign states. And precisely, from the point of view of international law, he is absolutely right. as far as I know, until now, NOT ONE sovereign state has made JUSTIFIED and OFFICIAL claims (through diplomatic channels) of this kind against Russia and its military aviation. behave decently towards others, which means that pilots of the air forces of NATO countries (and the United States as well, as a NATO member) should, in the international airspace near the Russian borders, provide the Russian side with all the information about flights of its military aircraft that NATO wants to receive from the pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces .. NATO is doing this? .. No? .. Well, then, - let him rest with his "claims" ...
  22. +1
    April 1 2021 13: 55
    First I went to check out IA Panorama.
    But no, not their job. Probably April 1st.
  23. +1
    April 1 2021 16: 01
    And to present negative test results for Covid-19 too?
  24. +1
    April 1 2021 18: 19
    I won't say anything about the Turkish air force, but the air force of bulgaria and romania is something not at all serious
  25. +1
    April 1 2021 18: 54
    As they say, you want a lot - you get little. Again, "Nat" has a spring aggravation.
  26. +1
    April 1 2021 19: 40
    and what do you expect from this rotten Europian ?? ... they are completely rotten and stink for any reason, how are they "the beacon of democracy", they have some values ​​that make a normal person sick ...
  27. +6
    April 1 2021 22: 17
    In NATO: Russian pilots do not contact European air traffic controllers and do not provide a flight plan

    Again, the Russians are to blame laughing
    Some kind of NATO offensive structure. laughing They carry water on the offended and something else. bully
  28. 0
    April 2 2021 04: 18
    The whole reckoning on his peopla-idiot - "Russian aggressors, fly as they want and where they want." The military understand the stupidity of such statements, but politics is politics.
  29. 0
    April 2 2021 14: 29
    And thanks to the NATO bawlers for such news. Thanks from all the racial people. For a small but regular message to the consolidation of Russia. When they come to us with a sword, it's half the trouble. The trouble is when they start dressing up as friends. And so, everything is clear, understandable, they just WANT from Russia, they want everything, and more. And so, - the meaning of "one's belly" becomes clear, when the enemy threatens, then the ax is in the hand, and with the handle in the palm, the night is immediately brighter, and the dawn is brighter. Keep up the good work, gentlemen NATy :)
  30. 0
    April 2 2021 14: 37
    A COVID passport is not required to provide our pilots? Otherwise, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg will start accusing us of aggression again.
  31. AB
    0
    April 2 2021 23: 05
    When the Russian pilots get in touch, the NATO members will hear "Vanya, cover it up. I'm attacking!"
  32. 0
    April 3 2021 07: 18
    It's time to move NATO borders to Mexico and Canada
  33. 0
    April 24 2021 16: 45
    That is, when NATO aircraft conduct reconnaissance close to the borders of the Russian Federation, while not turning on any transponders, not communicating with Russian dispatchers, or reporting information about their intentions, etc., this is normal, but Russian pilots must report to European dispatchers for each wing flap ?! "Can't you give them the key from the apartment where the money is?"

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