Don't rush to throw off your masks!

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They frighten us ...


The positive during the fight with the vile variety of the most common flu did not last long. It seems that once again we will have to forget about victorious reports, vacant places in covid hospitals, and even about the national pride of the Great Russians about the best vaccine in the world.

Even last week, data on the number of recovered and sick were stable in favor of the former. And now everything is not so scary, you should at least look at the official schedule ("The spread of coronavirus in Russia") dated March 31.



But literally in anticipation of the day of laughter of us all, like a butt on the head - wait for the third wave. You, I hope, remember how it was established under the tsars-priests and empresses-empresses - the head was cut off, not the guilty one, but first of all the messenger who brought the bad news.

Just do not think that I demand a public execution, not a physical one, of course, but a civil one, for the TV presenters or that woman who does not lie. It seems to be not lying, but it can scare you with a look. She has long been immune to media attacks, and in addition, the obvious carte blanche obtained at the very top.

However, Mrs. Popova, so to speak, the de facto chief physician of All Russia, has not yet told us anything intelligible. One of the deputy ministers of health, Mrs. Semyonova, had to take the rap. These, she said, announced on Tuesday, the incidence rates of COVID-19 in Russia indicate a possible third wave of the spread of the virus in the country.

Further even steeper - "unfortunately, the second wave of coronavirus infection has captured the beginning of 2021," says Tatiana Semyonova. And in the regions, one might think, things are completely stitched: "in a number of constituent entities of the Russian Federation, in a number of large cities, the risks, the threat of infection are still great."

Still, a high-ranking representative of the medical department reassures the public that "the necessary measures are being taken to prevent this and achieve population immunity to coronavirus in the country."

And we were promised a few days ago that we would certainly get out by the end of the summer. But no, another summer and beach season is down the drain. Let's hope that we will deal with the third wave not using the same methods as with the first, but as with the second.

Another would be to open museums and libraries not for fun, but in full, so that pensioners have somewhere to go. Well, this is so, from the field of pipe dreams, inspired by experience, accumulated in exactly one year.

Many somehow did not notice that a whole year passed after the start of the first, rigid quarantine, which we were smart enough not to turn into a complete lockdown. Now again, officials from medicine are nodding to the West, saying that from there the real infection is about to get to us.

But we are not afraid


So why the hell are we closing the borders, turning tourism into hopeless bankrupts, and Aviation? And why, then, all this booby with vaccinations, which many of those like the author, categorically do not want to give themselves up. Maybe I will only condescend to "light", and even then only if there is nowhere to go.


For all my covid dissidence, I never tire of following the statistics, the vaccine war, and new strains, whether they are wrong. Others, having put on masks, have long chosen to be silent in these rags, and for the news follow from case to case, only when presses.

So it turns out, as one of my colleagues wrote on social networks: “everything is different now”. I am a dissident with experience who, despite dozens of cases and several deaths around, considers Covid-19 to be nothing more than a flu, which, by the way, has not yet been dealt with 100 percent.

And from the usual flu, more precisely from complications, people also died, but this did not drive the masses into panic. And fear is the best environment not only for coronavirus, but for anyone else. That's why the virus, and not some kind of bacterium, almost said - Argentina, like in a wonderful old movie.

The public put on masks, and on the second wave it was even more organized than on the first. But for tests, analyzes, and even more so for vaccination, either those who are convinced that absolutely everything is being done correctly, and that God takes care of what is taken care of, or those who cannot avoid this in any way.

I know for sure an example of a comrade who took a risk and died after the second vaccination, although no one, of course, officially recorded this in our country. However, he and his thrombosis, frankly speaking, are to blame - and the would-be vaccinators did not even think to ask how ready the volunteer was. "Always ready!" - would be the answer.


I also know those who have not bought a single mask and even (oh, horror!) Have never used sanitizers. Although, what's wrong with washing off any infection from your hands, right up to tuberculosis that has returned to the capital. With whom he returned, I think there is no need to explain. I repeat, many and, probably, in general, the majority no longer follow the news, do not discuss Covid-19. They did the right thing to send him to the margins of consciousness. However, they became victims of manipulation even before that.

We are only worried a little


It is unlikely that someone who is manipulating, knowingly or out of bewilderment, now, in anticipation of the third wave, will suddenly accept and admit that wearing gloves that no one wears is not just delirium, but it is harmful. And no one admits that it was stupid to prohibit children from playing in playgrounds, and people from walking in parks.

So after all, even before the denial of the "holy" virus and miraculous vaccines are not far. When you get to the vaccines, you will remember about medical secrecy and the right to privacy. By the second wave, they quietly abandoned all such unnecessary things, and the terrible patrols do not run around the city.

So what?

Never mind. They even seem to come close to victory. Stop, or what, someone is impatient? So that life does not seem like raspberries? Or has not the entire business been trampled on and not everything that you wanted has been “squeezed out”?

There was no epidemic, and let them try to prove the opposite with numbers. Such scanty percentages are not an epidemic or even a pandemic, with the announcement of which the WHO screwed up so much that now from normal people no one will ever believe a single word coming from there.

And overcrowded hospitals are more likely a result, albeit a by-product, of the optimization of the same medicine that preceded Covid, to which everyone is now so amicably taking off their hats. But I also take off my hat, and I even understand that people really took risks, they died.

However, they got sick and died, not least because of the inflated panic, hysteria, which hit both the psyche and directly to the health. And of course, because of the insane overexertion, which, to be honest, looks too much like a provocation.

Last spring, in the hospitals, they shoved everyone and everyone who only spoke about the crown. Only then did they begin to figure it out. And when they got down to business really professionally, as was always done with seasonal outbreaks of influenza, the statistics somehow went down by itself.

And this despite the fact that testing, and just checking, began to be much more people, although many are stubborn, as the author, are so stubborn and continue to live and survive. However, I still had to pass the test once, which I honestly admitted to on the pages of VO (Sorry, the test is negative).
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  1. +1
    April 3 2021 15: 12
    Well, judging by the STRONGEST outbreaks of the disease in Europe, in the same Britain, France, Poland, Ukraine ... the "surge" can be SIGNIFICANT
    1. +23
      April 3 2021 15: 40
      Quote: svp67
      Well, judging by the STRONGEST outbreaks of the disease in Europe, in the same Britain, France, Poland, Ukraine ... the "surge" can be SIGNIFICANT

      It may be significant, perhaps it is, as with any flu .. But really, there was no such panic before ... in the USSR, in the 70s, a new influenza virus was also detected .. but no one was in quarantine .. Behind this coronavirus, they hide hundreds of thousands of lives taken away on other diagnoses ... which have generally ceased to be paid attention to. In general, someone breaks the way of life of people on our ball and it is sad that the Russian Federation is moving in the same direction as the whole world. Sad but not surprising ..
      1. +14
        April 3 2021 15: 47
        As a specialist, I have one question:
        Why is only coronavirus tested?

        And don't they test the influenza virus and other ARVIs?

        I have a hypothesis that the coronavirus is nothing more than a background to a strong influenza virus. And we are dealing with a repetition of the Spanish flu.
        1. -1
          April 3 2021 16: 08
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          As a specialist, I have one question:
          Why is only coronavirus tested?

          And don't they test the influenza virus and other ARVIs?

          Why only coronavirus? You can donate blood at any laboratory for the detection of influenza A / B virus. The cost is not too high. From 800 to 1200 rubles.
          1. +16
            April 3 2021 16: 32
            Quote: FIR FIR
            You can donate blood in any laboratory for the detection of influenza A / B virus. The cost is not too high. From 800 to 1200 rubles.

            smiled, not the price but the word "in any"
            Are You from Moscow?
            1. +1
              April 3 2021 17: 05
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              Are You from Moscow?

              No. Far from it.
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              smiled, not the price but the word "in any"

              What is difficult and inaccessible in this test? Or are you talking about the countryside? Of course, I wrote about cities. In the countryside, and even in regional centers, everything is much worse.
              1. +12
                April 3 2021 17: 43
                Quote: FIR FIR
                What is difficult and inaccessible in this test?
                we have ONE therapist for the entire district and an appointment with him two weeks ahead
                Quote: FIR FIR
                Or are you talking about the countryside?

                about her darling
                1. +5
                  April 3 2021 17: 48
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Quote: FIR FIR
                  What is difficult and inaccessible in this test?
                  we have ONE therapist for the entire district and an appointment with him two weeks ahead
                  Quote: FIR FIR
                  Or are you talking about the countryside?

                  about her darling

                  Here one can only sympathize.
                  There is nothing to please. "Optimization", once the best healthcare in the world, will continue, and it is especially evident in the countryside.
                  1. +12
                    April 3 2021 18: 03
                    Quote: FIR FIR
                    There is nothing to please. "Optimization", once the best healthcare in the world, will continue, and it is especially evident in the countryside.

                    And the village has always been a "smithy" of demography .. optimized medicine, optimized the village .. as a result, the population decline by 700 tons per year .. judging by the dynamics of this year, there will be one and a half million .. and how long will Russia exist with such optimizers? It is enough to take a calculator to understand that in 50 years we will be gone .. And those who are now shouting "hurray" are killing Russia ..
                2. +6
                  April 3 2021 19: 44
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  we have ONE therapist for the entire district and an appointment with him two weeks ahead
                  I am from Moscow, we have a lot of therapists, but the appointment is still 2 weeks in advance. True, there is a chance to catch the window when someone refuses.
              2. +23
                April 3 2021 17: 44
                Until October last year, he was skeptical of covid. But in mid-October, I was lucky enough to get sick with this infection. Temperature over 38, called a doctor - a diagnosis of pharyngitis. A few days later, the sense of smell disappeared, I called an ambulance - a diagnosis of acute respiratory infections. But they agreed with me that you can take antibiotics. A few days later he began to choke at times. I called a doctor - he took blood for a coronavirus analysis, the verdict - no corona. I continue to suffocate, on the advice of the doctor we are going with my wife to do an X-ray. The local doctor says that our lungs are clean, and his verdict is pharyngitis. To my objection that my throat does not hurt, he remained unconvinced. I had a temperature for a total of three weeks, although it was no longer high - up to 37,5. The ambulance doctor advised me about a month after the illness to donate blood for antibodies. Which is what we did with my wife. Result: my credits are 202, my wife's 30. My wife was really sick more easily than me. I come to the district police officer, show the result of the analysis, he tells me that we have had a coronavirus. To my question, what about pharyngitis - silence.
                In February I go to the hospital with atrial fibrillation, although I did not have it before. They sent me to fluorography, to my objection that I recently did an X-ray, they looked into the computer and said that in the conclusion it was written, fibrous changes in the lungs. But the local doctor told me that the lungs were clean! I made a fluorogram, the result is the same. As a result, I was discharged from the hospital with a sick heart and chronic heart failure - I consider this a complication after undergoing covid. Now I take pills by handfuls.
                This is what I mean: people, take care of yourself! Get vaccinated! Many friends and family have died with a diagnosis of Covid. Live with your own head, not someone else's advice.
                1. +2
                  April 3 2021 18: 03
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  I call an ambulance - a diagnosis of acute respiratory infections. But they agreed with me that you can take antibiotics

                  Cool ........................................
                  Again, everything depends on the terrain. Obviously you are not from a big city. You could have done smears, CT scans, etc. ..... Unfortunately, now there is only one proven way to preserve your own health - it is to have a good general practitioner as a friend. He will not be able to cure you of all kinds of diseases, but at least he will give practical advice.
                  1. +4
                    April 3 2021 18: 22
                    Quote: FIR FIR
                    Cool ........................................
                    Again, everything depends on the terrain.

                    You will be surprised, but I live in the Moscow region, though in the countryside. The nearest hospital is 12 km away.
                    1. 0
                      April 3 2021 18: 33
                      Surprised.
                      Quote: SRC P-15
                      but I live in the Moscow region
                2. +3
                  April 3 2021 23: 39
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  To my question, what about pharyngitis - silence.

                  The doctor always tells the truth ...
                  If the doctor says, "Don't get vaccinated ...", then don't.
                  If the doctor says: "Get vaccinated ..." then do it.
                  The doctor always tells the truth ...
                  And if he says both ... then do as he says and all at once.
                  Anyway, in both cases, he continuously takes care of your health. Not about your own, really? Didn't he come to see you?
                  1. +4
                    April 4 2021 06: 39
                    Quote: DED_peer_DED
                    The doctor always tells the truth ..

                    About three years ago, the youngest daughter crunched susav on her knees. We went to one doctor - even go to the coffin with the diagnosis. We went to another doctor, the diagnosis is not better, but absolutely different. The wife is in a panic, crying. As a result, only the third doctor looked and said that it’s okay, it will pass with age. And it passed.
                    So which doctor was telling the truth? wink
                    PS After the first diagnosis, my wife cried all night.
                    1. +1
                      April 9 2021 11: 39
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      So which doctor was telling the truth?

                      Everyone spoke the truth, the one that they knew, in which they believed ...
                      Knowledge and skills are different. In honey. It is more difficult to enter a university than to open your own business. But foreigners study without problems, it is natural for a fee. Entire floors in the dorms are given over to Indians and Africans. But for a talented, but poor young man, the entrance to this temple of science has been ordered, twenty years ago. So why be surprised after that? Diagnosis, incomplete medical staff? In the region, three hundred specialists with a doctor's diploma are graduated annually, and in polyclinics there are huge queues to the only district police officer, and even more rare narrow specialists have an appointment for months in advance.
                3. +1
                  April 6 2021 19: 39
                  I agree 100%, similar situations of contacting the doctors of my family and friends, do not listen and do not read "vaccine fighters". Get vaccinated, they do not give an absolute guarantee, but if trouble happens, you will get sick with covid and flu much easier.
              3. 0
                April 6 2021 10: 42
                I live in the countryside. In the paradise center in City Lab, you can do basic analyzes up to quite complex ones. Although in the Central District Hospital sometimes they will spread their hands on ESR due to the lack of reagents.
            2. 0
              April 3 2021 17: 18
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              smiled, not the price but the word "in any"

              Well, replace that word with "many." I live in Yekaterinburg and we have a lot of similar public and private laboratories there, but you can pass any tests.
              1. +3
                April 3 2021 17: 44
                Quote: svp67
                Well, replace that word with "in many"

                I think even "in many" it will be a great exaggeration aunt lives in ukhta, tests are carried to Syktyvkar
                1. +3
                  April 3 2021 19: 47
                  funny, I say that there really is and immediately a minus
                  the aunt was ill with coronavirus, all samples were sent to Syktyvkar
        2. +4
          April 3 2021 19: 59
          We are dealing with panic, just panic at the first moment and a delay in responding to a threat.
      2. +5
        April 3 2021 16: 02
        Earlier, in the USSR, the exchange of information between people was carried out exclusively by mail or by ordering negotiations, well, someone had a home phone, no Internet, no mobile communications, no social networks (yes, there is a lot of unnecessary information on the Internet, but people transfer information much And what am I for? Yes, to the fact that for 30-40 years and more people did not know a lot. Although, in terms of health, they were much healthier than the current generations. There was less chemistry. I generally grew up in those years and in 90s in the village, so apparently I still complain about my health on the sly to myself on Saturday mornings hi
        1. +7
          April 3 2021 16: 11
          Earlier, in the USSR, the exchange of information between people was carried out exclusively by mail or by ordering negotiations, well, someone had a home phone, no Internet, no mobile communications, no social networks (yes, there is a lot of unnecessary information on the Internet, but people transfer information much faster)

          Exactly .. despite the lack of advanced communications, the info spread instantly. And unlike today ... at that time, military virologists did not eat bread in vain ... what is only the eradication of smallpox ... in 19 days. https://zen.yandex.ru/media/rusbeyond/kak-sssr-spravilsia-s-epidemiei-chernoi-ospy-za-19-dnei-5e720f3393188c0d3e25259e
          And besides the fact that for 30-40 years or more people did not know a lot. Although, in terms of health, they were much healthier than the current generations. There was less chemistry. I generally grew up in those years and in the 90s in the village, because apparently and I still complain about my health on the sly to myself on Saturday mornings

          Everyone knew how it was not surprising .. Even to death the classified information managed to quickly seep and spread among the population .. it is true, distorted and overgrown with incredible details .. but the information came with lightning speed .. When the ship crashed into the bridge in Ulyanovsk, the next day we have the whole village I discussed this tragedy .. although everything was very classified.
          1. +10
            April 3 2021 16: 40
            Uh-huh .. Dad still, the kingdom of heaven to him, told a story. When they drove the first batch of T-80s to the ZGS, the secrecy was simply brutal. Almost up to the execution. And already in the GDR - they lost the column, because they rode behind as escorts from the plant. They looked - an old German was drinking a trabant. They gave him a broken line and gestures - did you see the column of tanks? And that one to them - Oh! I, I! Rus panzer gas turbine! And it shows - like we went there ...
            1. Alf
              +4
              April 3 2021 17: 37
              Quote: paul3390
              an old German is drinking a trabant. They gave him a broken line and gestures - did you see the column of tanks? And that one to them - Oh! I, I! Rus panzer gas turbine!

              It was Geheim's informant who had not been killed since the war. laughing
            2. +2
              April 4 2021 08: 50
              "When they drove the first batch of T-80 to the ZGS"
              Did they drive them under their own power from Kharkov? Or was it still carried on a steam locomotive, to the very part?
          2. +3
            April 3 2021 22: 55
            This terrible accident was reported in the news the next day. As reported numerous victims of a strong tornado, it seems, in 1984. And about some incidents it was possible to learn, for example, from the Polish newspaper "Tribuna Ludu" sold in kiosks of the Soyuzpechat or from Bulgarian magazines. And about those foreign policy events that our media did not write about, you could read in the Romanian magazine in Russian (often, frankly, not very good Russian) "Romania Today". And plus different lecturers of the regional party committees and the "Knowledge" society talked about those things that were not spoken about in the press or talked very little.
            1. +1
              April 4 2021 08: 51
              "This terrible accident was reported on the news the next day."
              and on the same evening - by the voice of America
      3. +4
        April 3 2021 16: 05
        To paraphrase a well-known phrase ...
        "Covid is not as bad as the activities associated with it."
        I myself was ill, although I washed / washed my hands, I wear masks. But the children learn from friends in Slovakia. Do you know what it is like there? Judging by their stories, the test is mandatory for everyone, every few months. Free, but still. And a certificate that you have passed it must be carried with you. In the outbreaks, they restrict movement even in neighborhoods! Now, a brother cannot go to his sister. And do not go to a distant grocery store for a share. Getting to Slovakia from another country is problematic than across the EU. And how many people do they have there? A couple of million ...
        Why am I doing this? And to the fact that they did not defeat the virus and are still in the top for the sick in Europe.
        1. +16
          April 3 2021 18: 34
          Hi Igor hi

          I would like to voice the opinion of the Moscow Tatars, our neighbors in the city hostel, on this matter.


          Here everyone is free to count as he pleases, but in Moscow the levies are specific.
          1. +3
            April 3 2021 18: 39
            Good evening. I know. Himself from the suburbs ... Although not a businessman, not a merchant, but "he who has ears, let him hear ...". There are a couple of acquaintances - they moan.
          2. +11
            April 3 2021 18: 49
            Quote: Sea Cat
            Here everyone is free to count as he pleases, but in Moscow the levies are specific.

            Ha .. and not only in Moscow .. cathedrals are only growing throughout Russia .. someone wants to eat .. Against the background of total impoverishment, billionaires are multiplying .. this is where the cohesion of the nation is manifested .. hi
            1. +10
              April 3 2021 18: 57
              Right. It turns out that the ancient proverb is right: "To whom is war, and to whom is a mother." hi
            2. +2
              April 4 2021 09: 00
              "Against the background of total impoverishment, billionaires are multiplying .. this is where the cohesion of the nation is manifested .."
              From 2015 to 2021, prices for basic food products in our country have grown almost 2 times, not counting vegetable oil and sugar, those finally ... that is, the common people became impoverished at the same times. and whose merit is this? Obama, Trump, or Putin?
        2. +1
          April 3 2021 23: 03
          Million five is the population of Slovakia.
        3. +2
          April 4 2021 08: 32
          Why am I doing this? And to the fact that they did not defeat the virus and are still in the top for the sick in Europe.

          The author correctly focuses on a stressful situation. The suspiciousness of some citizens, waiting for them to fall ill, has a very strong effect on their immunity. A person who has a simple ARI can wind himself up so that symptoms of covid appear. Constant fear contributes to the suppression of immunity. It's like a placebo effect, just the opposite.
          Overly strict measures in Slovakia have helped a lot to whip up the nervous situation and increase the incidence of illness.
          In war, the wounded soldiers of the victors recover faster than the soldiers of the losing side.

          Vaccination gives confidence, it will help many, because of their suspiciousness, and vaccination should be mandatory for those susceptible to hypnosis. Even if they get sick, there will be no complications.
      4. +14
        April 3 2021 18: 28
        By itself. In the USSR, there was no task of extracting a margin at any cost, and each person was valuable, regardless of social status. Plus a fence from the demonic west. They would have extinguished them instantly by isolating those few who traveled over the hill. In our country, on such a scale, that depth of field in a row has become widespread.
        I think that's all, the coronation is over. I'm writing this while having dinner at a pizzeria, chock-full
        stuffed with people. People will no longer agree to a stupid quarantine, which looks more like a civil defense exercise.
        I was not very seriously ill, although of course on the verge, there is a lot of chronicle, but I do not consider it an epidemic. The author is right, the goals of this lawlessness, with codes and fines, are not to fight the flu.
        1. +1
          April 3 2021 23: 06
          Something I do not see catering establishments, chock-full of people. Either the number of tables has been reduced, or some of the chairs are sealed with tape. One hundred percent attendance is impossible.
          1. 0
            April 4 2021 08: 39
            Something I do not see catering establishments chock-full of people. Either the number of tables has been reduced, or some of the chairs are sealed with tape. One hundred percent attendance is impossible


            Before visiting the Concert Hall. Tchaikovsky, on pl. Mayakovsky, usually everyone who will sit at the concert with intervals and in masks, come before the concert to the right of the main entrance into the hall, namely in the Tchaikovsky cafe, and there is always a full house and only waiters wearing masks.
          2. +1
            April 4 2021 08: 41
            The tables in the pizzeria are in such a way that I'm not a petty uncle, I barely squeezed into my place. And they had to book a table in advance, they make the pizza very tasty. There is no end to the visitors. good
      5. +2
        April 3 2021 21: 56
        Quote: Svarog
        In general, someone breaks the way of life of people on our ball

        Gennady G. Onishchenko, Deputy of the State Duma and the first chief state sanitary doctor of the Russian Federation, would like to

        This "comrade" proposes, among other things, to abolish also Love, procreation and everything else connected in one way or another with the "question". How so, why are you pumping (some will tell me)? And, here you are, and the facts arrived -



        How else can this be understood if not a ban on Love, on its origin between a woman and a man?
        Permanent masks and everyone! And it's better for the whole body at once ...
        The doctor, in part, can be understood, in this regard, nothing will shine for him, probably. And, young and beautiful, how to be? Falling in love with girls and guys "without a face"? To put on masks all over the body, so that you do not want to exchange physiological fluids with each other, neither - nor.
        You see, the "doctor" himself will receive some kind of grant from the propagandists of decreasing the world's population, such as the well-known misanthropist Bill Gates.
        What not to offer, an idea, suddenly someone will pat on the head. Not just like that.
        1. +2
          April 3 2021 23: 11
          The population of Russia should increase, and the overall population of the Earth should be gradually reduced. Dozens of countries have surplus populations.
          1. -1
            April 3 2021 23: 20
            Quote: Sergej1972
            The population of Russia should increase, and the overall population of the Earth should be gradually reduced.

            If you think so, then undertake to solve both problems at once, yourself.
            It would be interesting to read your program on these two issues for the next 10-20 years.
      6. 0
        April 4 2021 11: 29
        Argentine President confirms coronavirus after being vaccinated with "Sputnik V"
        It's okay! A really great vaccine.
        1. +2
          April 5 2021 08: 20
          Quote: Old Fuck
          Argentine President confirms coronavirus after being vaccinated with "Sputnik V"

          “Vaccination does not exclude infection, as we said, 8% of those vaccinated are at risk, but it excludes serious consequences ...
          Sputnik V is 91,6% effective against infections and 100% effective in severe cases. If an infection does occur and is confirmed, vaccination ensures a quick recovery without serious symptoms ...
          "Of all vaccinated patients who have passed more than two weeks after being vaccinated with the second component, only about 1 people fell ill with coronavirus, which is about one tenth of a percent," the mayor's office said.

          At the same time, 76% of patients carry coronavirus infection in a mild or asymptomatic form.

          Something like that.
    2. +4
      April 3 2021 15: 46
      -Do not rush to throw off the masks!
      The "authors" of COVID are first and foremost.
    3. +11
      April 3 2021 15: 59
      svp67 - WHO will order and there will be a "surge". In our city, they reached complete idiocy - they caught the drowned man from the river, the record in the documents is "covid", I'm not kidding. "Epidemic", "pandemic" is when 5% of the population is infected and not in a year, but at a time. What, in the Russian Federation there were 7 infected - huh?
      Wiring for Suckers on a global scale. As Yu. Shevchuk sang: "Time will show us who is the hero, who ..." - The Belarusians showed us who our rulers are with them on May 9 Victory Parade and without muzzles, and we have an old man shaking with fear in a bunker ... request
      1. +3
        April 3 2021 16: 31
        Quote: Nazar
        Epidemic "," pandemic "is when 5% of the population is infected and not in a year, but at a time

        well, it is already clear that you do not understand what you are writing about at all

        According to the Great Russian Encyclopedia
        epidemic - this is the spread of any infectious disease, significantly exceeding the level of the usual incidence in a given territory
        pandemic - it is an epidemic characterized by the spread of an infectious disease throughout the country, the territory of neighboring states, and sometimes many countries of the world

        what 5% did you get them from ?!
        Quote: Nazar
        Wiring for Suckers on a global scale

        you should first read something on the topic
        1. +13
          April 3 2021 19: 15
          Divorce is. Back in the 90s, it was written that in crisis situations in the global economy, the shadow government will use "pandemics" to distract the public from real problems, to minimize losses in reputation for purchased governments, to create a "controlled" habitat, that is, to restrict the rights of citizens, the removal of "infectious", cash, diversification of the economy under the "guise" of a mythical pandemic, enrichment due to the infrastructure and enterprises created in advance, as well as the economic situation, sharpened to "solve" the problems caused by the "pandemic", etc. that is , this is a method of quickly corralling humanity into a "digital concentration camp".
        2. +3
          April 4 2021 06: 44
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          what 5% did you get them from ?!

          You are right about the pandemic, but not about the epidemic. The definition of an epidemic really implies a disease threshold of five percent. hi
          1. +1
            April 4 2021 08: 46
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The definition of an epidemic really implies a disease threshold of five percent.

            can you refer to this definition?
            I'll make a reservation right away, don't even refer to "Vika", I'm already silent that there is a clause about these 5%, the main thing is that Vika is not a source
            1. +2
              April 4 2021 10: 04
              You are right, only Vicki has 5% data. I will dig further, the most interesting. hi
              1. +2
                April 4 2021 10: 55
                I can give a hint, there is a concept of the epidemiological threshold for ARVI, the calculation of which is on the website of Rospotrebnadzor, it is considered according to a rather complex formula, taking into account data for several years
  2. +24
    April 3 2021 15: 20
    There was no epidemic, and let them try to prove the opposite with numbers
    1. +7
      April 3 2021 19: 48
      Do you think this is a joke? Not at all. I had a slight runny nose, which is common for me in this weather. Passed the test for admission to the facility - coronavirus!
      1. 0
        April 3 2021 22: 10
        You're in luck and that's good. However, every 30th person who hoped it was just a joke dies. Today, there are 2,855,085 such unlucky pranksters in the world.
        1. +7
          April 4 2021 06: 46
          Quote: Saxahorse
          Today, there are 2,855,085 such unlucky pranksters in the world.

          In the whole world, not a single person has died from the coronavirus. wink People die from complications. And even children know how to draw mortality statistics. hi
  3. +2
    April 3 2021 15: 24
    And what was that?
    However, when such a person admits that he is just like that, this is already an achievement ... for him.
    People, get vaccinated ... just like the flu. It helps, however.
    1. +4
      April 3 2021 15: 42
      Quote: rocket757
      People, get vaccinated ... just like the flu. It helps, however.

      Who did it help? The effect of vaccination does not give lifelong immunity, and the virus constantly mutates .. but gives side effects ..
      1. +2
        April 3 2021 16: 21
        Listing side effects ....
        About vaccination ... antigripin does not give lifelong immunity, however, there are NO serious complications for those who were vaccinated against a strain that later happened to become infected! But without vaccination, they are seriously ill, and there are side effects.
        About 100% guarantee, no one promised, this is also true, well, 90 -95% is not bad.
        Moreover, the infection is NOT SEASONAL, and this is certainly not ice!
        The choice is simple .... think and choose YOURSELF.
        1. +9
          April 3 2021 16: 32
          Quote: rocket757
          About vaccination ... antigripin does not give lifelong immunity

          Antigripin .. arbidol .. and other antiviral drugs are pure marketing .. for pumping out the dough ..
          however, those who were vaccinated against a strain that later happened to become infected, there are NO serious complications! But without vaccination, they are seriously ill, and there are side effects.

          I'm not going to argue and argue .. I share only my own observations .. due to the fact that it is difficult for someone to believe now .. especially knowing the underside of modern medicine .. But in my life I have been vaccinated against influenza three times .. and the most amazing thing is that exactly in those years when I did it, I was very sick .. after which I quit this occupation .. But I do not want to say that they intentionally infect, perhaps they simply do not guess what kind of virus will be in a given year .. although knowing how medicine works, I do not exclude that the infection is deliberate ..
          The choice is simple .... think and choose YOURSELF.

          Here, of course! hi
          1. -1
            April 3 2021 16: 42
            Quote: Svarog
            Antigripin .. arbidol .. and other antiviral drugs

            I'm talking about the flu vaccine.
            About drugs for prevention .... so it is doubtful, some help to avoid infection, sometimes ... but certainly not when a patient with the flu sneezes on you.
          2. 0
            April 3 2021 23: 17
            For some reason, antigrippin and arbidol help me very well. Although many scold them and do not recognize them. By the way, arbidol was developed in Soviet times.
            1. +1
              April 4 2021 06: 47
              Placebo effect.
            2. 0
              April 5 2021 08: 26
              I am quite satisfied with the vaccination .... never got sick, although I had to contact sick people.
              However, I rarely get sick at all ...
          3. -1
            April 4 2021 09: 06
            Antigripin .. arbidol .. and other antiviral drugs are pure marketing .. for pumping out the dough

            The main thing is to believe, this is what homeopathy is based on. Don't Disappoint Believers drinks
      2. +2
        April 3 2021 17: 03
        Quote: Svarog
        Vaccination does not give lifelong immunity,

        So a genetically modified drug does not give immunity, it is not a serum for vaccination. I have it written right in the accompanying letter for the "vaccination". If I am not mistaken, only the Chumakovskaya vaccine, and one Chinese vaccine, are vaccines.
        1. 0
          April 3 2021 17: 16
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Svarog
          Vaccination does not give lifelong immunity,

          So a genetically modified drug does not give immunity, it is not a serum for vaccination. I have it written right in the accompanying letter for the "vaccination". If I am not mistaken, only the Chumakovskaya vaccine, and one Chinese vaccine, are vaccines.

          I didn't understand what you wanted to say .. What is your opinion without monograms ..? hi
          1. +1
            April 4 2021 09: 32
            Quote: Svarog
            I didn't understand what you wanted to say .. What is your opinion without monograms ..?

            And what is incomprehensible, this is not a vaccine, a GMO drug.
  4. +11
    April 3 2021 15: 27
    After the first dose, yes, the day was not very good, fever, a general incomprehensible state, I did not notice the second. Before that I passed it for antibodies-negative. But there are a lot of friends whose relatives died from the corona. such a mortality from influenza before, at least in our city, was not previously. So the author expressed only his own opinion, and opinions as people. And I doubt that this is a worldwide conspiracy. hi
    1. +4
      April 3 2021 15: 35
      Quote: VORON538
      ... despite the fact that there was no such mortality previously from the flu ... before.

      There was nowhere ...
      1. +6
        April 3 2021 16: 24
        Why not ... Spanish woman, at the beginning of the last century !!! Thinned geyrope and many other places! Moreover, there was NO such human mobility as it is now!
        Now you can get infected on the other side of the earth, and in half a day you can bring the disease anywhere !!!
        This is our present reality!
        1. -1
          April 3 2021 16: 52
          Quote: rocket757
          Why not ... Spanish woman, at the beginning of the last century !!!

          I was referring to the modern stage, without delving into the history of the Middle Ages.
          1. +1
            April 3 2021 23: 19
            The Spanish woman was after the end of the First World War, a hundred years ago.
    2. +7
      April 3 2021 15: 47
      Before that, I tested it for antibodies-negative. But there are a lot of friends whose relatives died from the corona, despite the fact that there was no such death rate from flu before, at least in our city, before.

      Or maybe mortality is not from the crown? Maybe they just scored for other diseases .. I have been closely monitoring the situation for 1,5 years .. in December 2019 I got sick myself .. the disease was not ordinary .. I recovered for a long time .. well, the symptoms were very similar to the corona .. never with colds did not go to the doctors .. but then I had to go, because in the middle of the night I woke up with a feeling that there was not enough air .. Out of all my friends, one person died, in a very old age a woman, the mother of a work colleague .. Everything, more luckily no one died. But people also die from the flu of ordinary people.
      1. +4
        April 3 2021 16: 26
        It seems that we will again have to forget about victorious reports, vacant places in covid hospitals, and even about the national pride of the Great Russians about the best vaccine in the world.

        Apart from reports about the creation of a vaccine that has no analogues in the world, nothing was heard. The graphs show that the incidence is at the level of May-June last year. Can someone explain why this continues and where do the carriers of the disease come from? If such an incomprehensible situation has gone, isn't it time to introduce quarantine and limit tourism and other foreign tours?
        I have not been abroad since 1985, my wife - since 2014 ... I don’t dare to say that something vital and necessary has been lost ... Isn’t it time for “lovers of foreign countries” and various “hurray-patriots” to postpone for a year or two visiting "reserved places" for purposes not associated with insurmountable circumstances?
        Finally, it would be interesting to know how many users of the site (especially from among the outspoken and guaranteed supporters) were vaccinated (2 times).
        1. +8
          April 3 2021 16: 47
          Isn't it time for "lovers of foreign" and various "hurray-patriots" to postpone for a year or two visits to "reserved places" for purposes not associated with insurmountable circumstances?

          You propose to deprive all of our leaders of the opportunity to communicate with families who love Russia as far away from it as possible in cozy mansions and villas bought with the loot honestly saved from the salary ??? Yes, this is some kind of rabid extremism, coupled with terrorism! They won't be able to think obscenely about the benefits of the country.
        2. 0
          April 7 2021 23: 27
          I did it, my wife did it. The horns and tail did not grow. I did it voluntarily, because. looked at two colleagues at work, survived a little, but a neighbor, a strong man, did not survive.
      2. +7
        April 3 2021 16: 34
        You should have such a childhood friend as I have ... a physician working in the same "red zone" .....
        The disease is real, many die, and not only those who have AIDS, diabetes mellitus, and other serious diseases, which by itself gathers "its harvest" .... with the crown, they have a chance to survive at the level of error! There are different dying, having not so critical, or even completely previously undetected diseases. Just a push / blow from the covid and the person burns out one, two.
        This is ce la Vie.
      3. +6
        April 3 2021 16: 47
        Quote: Svarog
        Or maybe mortality is not from the crown? Maybe they just scored for other diseases ...

        SARS CoV-2 is dangerous because it can quickly lead to ARDS. Mortality is due precisely to this syndrome. Of course, the problems of medicine were revealed, the planned treatment of some groups of patients with chronic diseases was complicated by a number of factors (shortage of medical personnel and beds). However, the seasonal types of viruses, for the most part, gave serious complications only in absolute risk groups (oncology, asthma, etc.), then the coronavirus expanded this list ... Even in quite young and healthy people, the disease was often complicated by pneumonia, and the treatment was sufficient long lasting. Such cases were extremely rare with seasonal types of influenza.
        1. +5
          April 3 2021 17: 00
          Quote: Doccor18
          SARS CoV-2 is dangerous because it can quickly lead to ARDS.

          I do not dispute the danger of corona .. any virus is dangerous. To a lesser extent, to a greater extent, but they are all dangerous. The death of people from mysterious pneumonia began in general since 2018 .. I have friends doctors in the emergency room, who told about this .. well, plus my own observations among friends, and my circle of friends by virtue of my profession is very large. Certainly more deaths from covid than from any other virus. But the fact is that the precautions that are now in place are generally useless .. wearing a "greasy mask" and for formality wearing it in public places .. well, how will it save others when at work everyone walks without masks and shakes hands .. in short, I mean that in 1,5 years, everyone should have been ill, who should ..
          And my friend's doctor says that antibiotics are becoming helpless ... and this is the problem ...
          1. +3
            April 3 2021 17: 08
            Quote: Svarog
            Well, how will this save others when at work everyone walks without masks and shakes hands

            And why at work without a mask and shaking hands?
            1. 0
              April 3 2021 17: 20
              Quote: Liam
              Quote: Svarog
              Well, how will this save others when at work everyone walks without masks and shakes hands

              And why at work without a mask and shaking hands?

              Because no one cares .. and tradition is stronger than the fear of the virus. I don't know if it's good or bad .. but it's a fact. We have a team of more than 50 people .. everyone was sick .. but no one died .. maybe it was not covid .. although there were patients who were confirmed covid ..
              1. +3
                April 3 2021 17: 24
                Quote: Svarog
                Because everyone doesn't care ..

                That is, the reason is not the usefulness of the measures, but their non-compliance. It is quite illogical to declare the measures meaningless for this reason. You can also cancel the Criminal Code)
                Wearing a mask and not shaking hands does not seem so overwhelming when it comes to your own health and your loved ones
                1. +3
                  April 3 2021 17: 30
                  Quote: Liam
                  That is, the reason is not the usefulness of the measures, but their non-compliance.

                  The reason for what? This year, no one was sick at all here ... despite the fact that the team scored against the danger of the crown ... Imagine, in 2020 a lot of people were sick ... and this year 21 ... no one took a single sick leave .. Hike our medicine and restrictive measures are so effective that people stopped getting sick wassat
                  You can also cancel the Criminal Code)

                  For a long time already canceled .. you do not know?
                  Wearing a mask and not shaking hands does not seem so overwhelming when it comes to your own health and your loved ones

                  The only question is, what needs to be overcome?
                2. +1
                  April 4 2021 05: 16
                  ... in general - human skin destroys all viruses - this is its * natural purpose * ..
          2. +2
            April 3 2021 17: 25
            Quote: Svarog
            ..But the fact is that the precautions that are now in place are generally useless .. to wear a "greasy mask" and for formality to wear it in public places .. well, how will it save others when at work everyone goes without masks and for hand greet

            But this is where the authorities can be blamed. Measures should be measures, not visibility. Yes, and people need to thoroughly explain everything, I would even say, "chew", especially in connection with the general tendency of lowering the level of basic education.
            And as for "not everyone has been ill," we, unfortunately, still know so little about the human immune system ...
            Quote: Svarog
            And my friend's doctor says that antibiotics are becoming helpless ... and this is the problem ...

            This is not a problem, but a problem.
            1. +1
              April 3 2021 17: 45
              Quote: Doccor18
              This is not a problem, but a problem.

              So maybe the real reason is ..?
              1. +4
                April 3 2021 17: 52
                You have touched on a topic that can not be disclosed not only in one comment, but in a whole article. I think a series of articles will be needed ... A complex, multifaceted question.
            2. +2
              April 4 2021 09: 16
              "antibiotics become helpless"
              it seems like viruses do not cure antibiotics? or are they already being treated?
              1. +1
                April 4 2021 10: 40
                Antibacterial agents are powerless against viruses, however, as a result of the course of diseases of viral etiology (causes), a number of complications appear, when the fight against bacteria comes to the fore. But then you can't do without antibiotics. And the problem is that a considerable number of doctors (as well as the patients themselves, "armed" with knowledge from the Internet) prescribe antibacterial agents almost from the first day of the disease, of viral origin. This is done with good intentions in order to prevent formidable complications that can develop rapidly (especially in early childhood and in adults with reduced immunity), but there is a downside to this "reassurance", and a very bad one - the appearance of the so-called " superinfections ", which are resistant to most of the time-tested remedies. This problem is not particularly widely publicized, but it exists and has been further exacerbated by the covid epidemic ...
                1. 0
                  April 4 2021 17: 28
                  "And the problem is that a considerable number of doctors"
                  well, he's a doctor, he knows. do not self-medicate. the doctor said, to the morgue, then to the morgue
      4. +3
        April 3 2021 20: 00
        December 2019 he fell ill himself .. the disease was not ordinary .. he recovered for a long time .. well, and according to the symptoms
        ,, and this began at the end of summer_autumn 2019. A lot of friends and relatives. then they had "pneumonia", and in December schools were closed for 3 weeks.
      5. +2
        April 3 2021 23: 29
        You are lucky, I personally knew about seven people who died from coronavirus. Many relatives, acquaintances, colleagues have been ill, some are very severe, and some are mild or generally asymptomatic. If you count them and their acquaintances, then I can name several dozen people. One of my aunt was ill twice. The entire families of two cousins ​​have been ill. Now another aunt, her daughter and grandson are ill. Moreover, surprisingly, most of those sick or dead people I know got sick in the last two or three months, when it seems that there was a general improvement. In addition, it seems that the virus has begun to spread in rural areas.
      6. +1
        April 4 2021 06: 50
        Quote: Svarog
        and then I had to go, because in the middle of the night I woke up with a feeling that there was not enough air ..

        The same symptoms were in January. And for several days the temperature is 35.
    3. -2
      April 3 2021 16: 26
      And the Spaniard, who devastated everything in her path ... what kind of conspiracy could there be at all?
      Unless sent from above !!!
  5. +5
    April 3 2021 15: 28
    Exactly. "The pernicious influence of the West, these idiotic toys ...." And it doesn't matter that the author cannot understand the difference between the 19th and the Flu, (which even a primary school student is capable of). The main thing is more pretentious accusations in all directions ... It's a pity that the author does not have a recipe shared HOW IT IS NECESSARY. (whether to sprinkle holy water?)
    1. -2
      April 3 2021 18: 34
      I am an experienced dissident who, despite dozens of cases and several deaths around, considers Covid-19 to be nothing more than the flu.
      Already by this phrase, one can judge the competence of the author. Covid and influenza viruses are not at all related. All other arguments from the same collection. Notes of a self-confident dilettante.
      PS I have two Sputnik vaccinations in my asset without consequences.
      1. -2
        April 3 2021 18: 52
        Quote: Mikhail M
        PS I have two Sputnik vaccinations in my asset without consequences.

        Some argue that in the future there will be an "archive" .. what do you think about this?
        1. +3
          April 3 2021 19: 00
          I think that some of them will have an "archive". Between science that proved the effectiveness of the vaccine, and naive by faith in the competence of bloggers who broadcast unsubstantiated that we were all deceived, I choose science. Which is what I wish for everyone.
          1. +3
            April 3 2021 20: 22
            Quote: Michael m
            I think that some of them will have an "archive". Between science that proved the effectiveness of the vaccine, and naive by faith in the competence of bloggers who broadcast unsubstantiated that we were all deceived, I choose science. Which is what I wish for everyone.

            Yes, I, too, for science .. and certainly used to trust vaccination .. but now everything has changed a lot, such a number of the population has become unnecessary and dangerous, which indirectly confirms a lot .. including raising the retirement age .. but the main thing is the essence of today's medicine, which completely geared towards extracting profits from bodies ..
      2. 0
        April 7 2021 23: 34
        All the author's dissidence will fly off him like an autumn leaf, if, God forbid, he picks up this infection! As one friend of mine said, oxygen tubes in the nose and injections of anticoagulants in the stomach have a very beneficial effect on a sharp change in thoughts and moods!
    2. +1
      April 4 2021 09: 29
      "It's a pity the author did not share the recipe, HOW IT IS NECESSARY"
      how to? Jerome Jerome replied to this, I literally don't remember, but the ending is like "and stop bothering yourself with things you don't understand anything about." something like this, otherwise there are specialists in microbiology, pulmanologists, general practitioners. they say that there are not enough doctors in hospitals, the stump is clear, why would they be enough if everyone is sitting on VO? you need to be simpler, not to think about your role in the pandemic, not to spread rumors about sick and dead acquaintances of your distant friends, not to describe your severe symptoms in case of common acute respiratory infections, but to lead a healthy lifestyle, eat simple food, and wash your hands after as. and we will all survive, as if a priest and company, I did not want the opposite
  6. +8
    April 3 2021 15: 32
    However, they got sick and died, not least because of the inflated panic, hysteria ... And of course, because of the insane overexertion, which ...

    Last spring, everyone was pushed into the hospitals ... Only then they began to sort it out ...

    It is immediately obvious that the "medical professional" writes.
    He is an artist, he sees so ...
    1. +1
      April 3 2021 15: 48
      laughing This one at least does not offer rubbing with bear urine and lemons with ginger for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Already good.
      1. +2
        April 3 2021 15: 55
        Quote: Captive
        At least this one doesn't offer bear urine ... It's good.

        Well .. if you use such concepts, then yes ... I agree Yes
      2. +1
        April 3 2021 23: 32
        Well, lemons and ginger are healthy on their own.
  7. +6
    April 3 2021 15: 40
    As usual, there are several facets of the same phenomenon. First: it is now ubiquitous "hype culture", to which journalism turned out to be very subservient. A lot of noise - minuscule useful information. Second: I personally know one covid dissident. Actually, he was before it pressed, pressed pretty steeply. He was lucky - he was sent to the hospital, he got out, unlike some of his friends. Since then, about the fact that Kovid is a garbage from him, somehow it is not heard. Third: a lot of rumors and gossip that circulate on the Internet, and not only. Since fake academies and academicians are now a dime a dozen, it is difficult for people to figure it out. You can continue in the fourth and fifth, etc.
    PS Personally took root just the same today. Without any problems, I signed up through the State Services, I came - they pricked me. I was a lot surprised and puzzled by the fact that there were two of us in the whole clinic, my wife and I. I repeat - for the entire clinic. Like that ...
    PPS I made the decision to vaccinate on my own and consciously, because I have to contact many people in different areas of residence, and, since everything happens, there is no need for people to complicate their lives.
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    1. +4
      April 3 2021 16: 25
      Quote: mtpivanov
      I do not know of a single person who died from a mythical virus.

      i know
      Quote: mtpivanov
      Instead of being vaccinated, I'd rather go over the top in a hotel (sump), it's still paid for ...
      In principle, I will not get vaccinated - and I have never been vaccinated against the flu.
      And there is not a single sick leave for 30 years of experience.

      that is, for thirty years, they went to work in a sick form and infected colleagues
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        1. 0
          April 3 2021 16: 37
          if you want the truth, people like you do not care and you need to isolate first of all, one does not perceive the infection, and the other can throw off the skates, and if you consider that you get to work across the street, plus a store, etc., then estimate how many can infect
          1. -1
            April 4 2021 09: 37
            "then think if you can how many you can infect"
            and how can he infect them? health? because he is not sick with anything
            1. 0
              April 4 2021 09: 50
              Quote: aglet
              and how can he infect them? health? because he is not sick with anything

              why do you think so?
              with no sick leave? !!!!
              1. -1
                April 4 2021 10: 14
                "why do you think so?
                with no sick leave? !!!! "
                at least. and where did you get the idea that he is sick? and if he is healthy, how can he infect?
                1. +2
                  April 4 2021 10: 53
                  when they say that for 30 years a person has never sneezed and blown his nose, it means that the person is lying
                  1. +1
                    April 4 2021 11: 01
                    "when they say that for 30 years a person has never sneezed and blown his nose, it means that the person is lying."
                    you have very interesting arguments. first of all, the opponent must be exposed in a lie, although he only said that he did not take sick leave. and I believe him, I myself, for 10 years in a row, did not look at the hospital
                    1. +2
                      April 4 2021 11: 14
                      Quote: aglet
                      and I believe him, I myself, for 10 years in a row, did not look at the hospital

                      do not take sick leave and do not get sick, these are two completely different things, if you say now that in 10 years you have never sneezed, then I will say about you that you are lying

                      p / s / in two years one could learn how to insert quotes
                      1. -3
                        April 4 2021 17: 23
                        "if you say now that in 10 years you have never sneezed, then I will say about you that you are lying"
                        can you understand what you have read? I mean sick leave, you professo you are lying. for so many years, the screen is small, it is difficult to calculate how much you please us with your presence, it's time to learn to understand what you are reading
                      2. +2
                        April 4 2021 18: 44
                        strain again and read everything from the very beginning, if you get stuck in someone else's argument, then at least delve into the background
                      3. -1
                        April 6 2021 08: 47
                        "if you get stuck in someone else's argument, then at least delve into the background"
                        I read it, it's not stressful for me, and the dispute turns out, like that, you and me, the background is all above - you firmly believe in the miraculous abilities of the mask, in an incredible pandemic, and in a virus, great and terrible. and in life, with every sneeze, you run to the doctor and demand sick leave, clogging up the corridors of clinics. I am familiar with such organisms
                      4. 0
                        April 6 2021 09: 16
                        Quote: aglet
                        great and terrible. and in life, with every sneeze, you run to the doctor and demand sick leave, clogging up the corridors of clinics. I am familiar with such organisms

                        funny, I have 34 km to the nearest polyclinic, and the queue to the therapist is scheduled for two weeks, I took the last sick leave at the institute in the 90th
                      5. -1
                        April 10 2021 08: 57
                        "I took my last sick leave at the institute in the 90th"
                        "That is, for thirty years they went to work in a sick state and infected their colleagues"?
                      6. 0
                        April 10 2021 09: 34
                        again they did not guess, as the owner, I didn’t care about sick leave,
                      7. 0
                        April 10 2021 09: 47
                        "again they did not guess, as the owner, I didn't care about sick leave"
                        I didn't guess anything, I just voiced the claim that you made to your opponent. and what, right from the very 90 you are already the owner of something there? usually, the owners do not live so much, if he is not miller, or sechin
                      8. 0
                        April 10 2021 15: 29
                        Quote: aglet
                        I just voiced the claim that you made to your opponent

                        he just boasted that he went sick
                        Quote: aglet
                        right from the very 90 you are already the owner of something there?

                        I was ill once at the university, and after 95 I worked for myself
                      9. -1
                        April 13 2021 07: 03
                        "he just boasted that he went sick"
                        just that he didn't say
                      10. 0
                        April 13 2021 07: 28
                        read everything carefully, and there is no need for fairy tales about the fact that people have never been sick in their life
      2. -1
        April 4 2021 09: 34
        "that is, for thirty years, they went to work in a sick state and infected colleagues."
        yes, that's how he is, an asymptomatic scoundrel !!!
      3. -2
        April 4 2021 09: 35
        "and I know"
        second cousin of a neighbor with whom they lived at the old address 20 years ago?
    2. +2
      April 3 2021 18: 39
      Quote: mtpivanov
      In principle, I will not get vaccinated - and I have never been vaccinated against the flu.
      And there is not a single sick leave for 30 years of experience.

      On February 25, two young men who contracted the coronavirus died in Israeli hospitals. In both cases, we were talking about patients who did not suffer from severe concomitant diseases. A 23-year-old man died at the English Hospital in Nazareth. A 26-year-old man at the Adassah Ar Ha-Zofim Hospital in Jerusalem. Radio Can Bet broadcast that a young resident of Nazareth, infected with the coronavirus, suddenly lost consciousness at home. He was taken to hospital, where doctors were forced to state his death. Earlier, a 26-year-old from the Jerusalem district of Ras al-Amud died at the Adassa Ar ha-Tsofim hospital. His development of the disease was similar: sudden loss of consciousness at home, hospitalization and death, despite attempts to resuscitate him. Relatives say that he did not even know that he was infected with the coronavirus. The diagnosis was made after hospitalization.

      Take care of yourself, you will not have a second life.
      1. +1
        April 3 2021 19: 53
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        Take care of yourself, you will not have a second life.
        The Hindus disagree with you.
      2. 0
        April 4 2021 09: 40
        "Relatives say that he did not even know that he was infected with the coronavirus. The diagnosis was made after hospitalization."
        so what did he die of? what did the autopsy show? from the coronavirus? it's just blah blah blah
        1. 0
          April 4 2021 17: 27
          Quote: aglet
          so what did he die of? what did the autopsy show? from the coronavirus? it's just blah blah blah

          Read carefully
          Those close to him say that he didn't even know that is infected with the coronavirus. The diagnosis was made after hospitalization.
          The British variant spreads quickly, the development of the disease is rapid and severe.
          The third quarantine in Israel was mainly the British variant of the virus.
          1. 0
            April 4 2021 17: 43
            "Read carefully"
            so I read it carefully. so why did he die? there is no answer in the vacy posts
            1. 0
              April 4 2021 21: 00
              Quote: aglet
              so I read it carefully. so why did he die?

              In Israel, if a person dies in the presence of a coronavirus, it does not matter which organs were damaged and the diagnosis DEATH FROM CORONOVIRUS.
              1. 0
                April 4 2021 21: 52
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                DEATH FROM CORONOVIRUS.

                That would be clearer.
                A person lives, he has various diseases, there may be a heart disease, even a serious one, there may be oncology, but he is being treated and LIVES,
                But if he got the crown and died then he died from the crown and which organ and its past diseases do not matter because he lived with them, and if there was no crown and he died at the same time, then there would be a diagnosis corresponding to the disease, And as the crown was, it led to such a result.
                Just like perfectly healthy people who did not have any diseases and died from the corona.
              2. 0
                April 6 2021 08: 39
                "it does not matter which organs were damaged and the diagnosis of DEATH FROM CORONAVIRUS"
                "so he has seven bullets in the head? write-accompanying"
                Or do you pay extra for the virus, both doctors and patients?
                1. 0
                  April 6 2021 08: 58
                  Quote: aglet
                  "so he has seven bullets in the head? write-accompanying"

                  What country did you write about?
                  Quote: aglet
                  Or do you pay extra for the virus, both doctors and patients?

                  Yes, doctors were paid extra in corona departments when the workload was 90-110%
                  And the sick pay was RECOVERY.
                  Therefore, today all departments of the crown in hospitals are closed.
                  We write WHAT IS REALLY.
                  Therefore, 72% of the adult population is vaccinated, infection per day from 0.6% tested.
                  And the masks will be removed next week.
                  Vaccinations of children from 12 years old will begin in May.
                  More and more countries recognize the Israeli green passport, including Russia.
                  1. 0
                    April 10 2021 09: 02
                    "More and more countries recognize the Israeli green passport, including Russia"
                    I am glad for you, but there is more one more useless piece of paper in the world. I'm talking about your green passport, if that. is it definitely not a dollar?
                    1. 0
                      April 10 2021 09: 49
                      Quote: aglet
                      I'm happy for you

                      Thank you!
                      Quote: aglet
                      but one more useless piece of paper in the world has become more. I'm talking about your green passport,

                      And here you are mistaken, just your media are silent about it.
                      Israelis, who have passed two stages of vaccination and received a "green passport", will be able to travel without the need for quarantine and testing before departure and after landing.

                      1. 0
                        April 10 2021 10: 00
                        "Israelis who have gone through two stages of vaccination and received a 'green passport' will be able to travel without the need for quarantine and testing before departure and after landing."
                        you will not believe how deep it is for me ... the rhizome of one vegetable
                      2. 0
                        April 10 2021 10: 54
                        Quote: aglet
                        you will not believe how deep it is for me ... the rhizome of one vegetable

                        No, why should I believe.
                        What else do you have to do ?,
                      3. 0
                        April 13 2021 07: 05
                        "What else is there for you to do?"
                        yes no, not a passport, but your whole israel
    3. +1
      April 3 2021 23: 35
      There is not a single store in our city that will serve you without a mask.
      1. 0
        April 4 2021 07: 52
        We have stopped demanding a mask in some shops. request
        1. 0
          April 4 2021 08: 55
          Cameras work in large stores. Often sellers refuse to service if the mask is not pulled over the nose. At weekend fairs, traders are constantly checked. Of course, small shops sometimes have a more liberal attitude. But it happens that there, too, the sellers themselves are very nervous, scared both because of the fear of infection, and because of the possible hidden verification by the checking structures.
      2. 0
        April 4 2021 09: 41
        "There is not a single store in our city that will serve you without a mask."
        What country do you live in?
  9. +4
    April 3 2021 15: 52
    I know for sure an example of a comrade who took a risk and died after the second vaccination, although no one, of course, officially recorded this in our country. However, he and his thrombosis, frankly speaking, are to blame - and the would-be vaccinators did not even think to ask how willing the volunteer was.

    I know for sure that before the vaccination, a questionnaire is filled out in which a person describes his sores, both chronic and recent.
    1. +1
      April 3 2021 17: 40
      So it was, first a questionnaire / survey on which one can only lie, unknowingly, then the therapist and then the vaccination. We have it so ... if somewhere else, then this is a complete violation and in this case it is not worth going there ...
      1. +1
        April 3 2021 18: 12
        Quote: rocket757
        if somewhere else, this is a complete violation and in this case it is not worth going there

        Here I am about that. Either the person in question was vaccinated at the Horns and Hooves clinic, or this person did not exist at all, and the author is simply lying.
        1. +1
          April 3 2021 19: 43
          So my friend told me a lot. My soul mate, who is very suspicious, was persuaded together to be vaccinated, otherwise she sat at home and did not let the children go anywhere ...
          Her reaction to the vaccine was clearly expressed, yes, but now everything is normal, antibodies are above the roof and we have FREEDOM !!! Children are so happy, words cannot convey!
          1. -1
            April 4 2021 09: 43
            "and we have FREEDOM !!!"
            and I never lost her
            "Children are so happy"
            were they vaccinated too?
            1. 0
              April 4 2021 12: 02
              And who is the boss in the house?
              It's okay for me, I worked, I went where I needed to, but at home there is a mistress ... a keeper and a nurse, you dare argue with her?
      2. +3
        April 3 2021 18: 45
        Quote: rocket757
        first, a questionnaire / survey on which one can only lie, unknowingly, then the therapist and then the vaccination. We have so ...

        We recommend sitting in the clinic for another half hour after the vaccination. Suddenly, an intolerance or an allergic reaction will manifest itself sharply.
        1. 0
          April 3 2021 19: 39
          We were all sitting in the emergency room, after vaccinations, my sister walked around, examined all patients, in a respectable age.
          Everything is adequate.
          Moreover, we were vaccinated in a separate wing of the hospital ... there were no strangers.
  10. +10
    April 3 2021 15: 59
    like a butt on the head - wait for the third wave

    And then wait for the fourth and fifth waves?
    I am not a covid dissident. I try to observe all the precautions. But it doesn’t feel like getting vaccinated. I am inclined to think that it may be necessary to vaccinate, especially looking at what is happening in Europe.
    1. +4
      April 3 2021 16: 39
      Quote: Jaromir
      I am inclined to think that it may be necessary to vaccinate, especially looking at what is happening in Europe.

      And you are not worried that relations are widely practiced in Europe, for which the USSR was judged under Art. 121? Or, for example, that mathematics was considered not a tolerant science there. Rumor has it that it came to notes and keys at the piano. You see, there are 52 whites and 36 blacks ...
      Don't scare yourself and practice good personal hygiene.
      1. +6
        April 3 2021 17: 37
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Doesn't bother you

        Nope.
        I am mainly interested in Europe only in terms of Russia-NATO relations.
        And what about sodomy and what the ratio of whites and blacks is so purely for neighing. We ourselves have enough problems with sodomy. Especially in the "high society".
        With the epidemic, the situation is completely different. She knows no boundaries. Today there, and tomorrow with us. And we know what new strain it will bring.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        There are rumors

        I rarely believe in rumors and gossip. I mostly believe in facts. But there are exceptions.
        Example: there are rumors that our pensions may be canceled in the future. In fact, we have raised the retirement age by 5 years. And no one took the people to the streets to protest against the pension reform demanding its abolition. Conclusion: it is possible that rumors about the cancellation of pensions in the future are well-grounded.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Don't scare yourself

        And I'm not going to scare myself or anyone else. I am just considering all the possible consequences of new waves of coronavirus, if any.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        follow the rules of personal hygiene

        Hygiene must always be observed. hi
  11. +2
    April 3 2021 16: 03
    I went to get vaccinated against covid. I filled out a questionnaire, interviewed me while taking my temperature, and found out that I was allergic to tetanus vaccine. They refused to vaccinate against covid on the basis of contraindications ... So they approach with understanding the one who is vaccinated ...
    1. 0
      April 3 2021 16: 50
      Quote: Alexander X
      I filled out a questionnaire, interviewed me while taking my temperature, and found out that I was allergic to tetanus vaccine.

      Nifiga .. this is where the doctors approach the matter so professionally? That year, I stepped on a rusty nail, after thinking and reading about the consequences, I decided to get vaccinated .. I came to the emergency hospital .. I pointed out the problem .. they just gave an injection without question .. it turned out to be a very painful infection, it took a week off my shoulder, but I didn't even have an allergy I thought neither I nor the doctors .. they gave me the vaccine ..
      1. 0
        April 3 2021 17: 59
        This is where the doctors approach the business so professionally?
        Likhoslavl, Tver region ..
        1. -1
          April 3 2021 18: 10
          Quote: Alexander X
          This is where the doctors approach the business so professionally?
          Likhoslavl, Tver region ..

          Ha .. I have an ex-wife from there .. damn I don’t believe .. very familiar with this town .. wassat
          1. +1
            April 3 2021 18: 14
            damn I don’t believe ..
            Medical fact ... Literally and figuratively ...
            1. +2
              April 3 2021 18: 17
              Quote: Alexander X
              damn I don’t believe ..
              Medical fact ... Literally and figuratively ...

              I'm glad for Likhoslavl .. apparently I have made a lot of progress ... But in N. Chelny, where I live .. they don't even get close to checking for allergies .. that Chelny .. lived in Moscow for five years .. and they didn't check it there .. hi
          2. +1
            April 4 2021 10: 24
            In 89, when I happened to be there, there were problems with the asphalt, I had to go around the real funnels. How are you with the roads today?
            I asked about Likhoslavl.
      2. +3
        April 3 2021 18: 28
        Quote: Svarog
        ... pointed out the problem .. they just gave an injection without question .. it turned out to be a very painful infection, it took a week off the shoulder, but neither I nor the doctors even thought about the allergy .. they gave me the vaccine ..

        There are practically no absolute contraindications to the AC-toxoid (or rather it was you who were injected with it), unless there were previously no undesirable consequences for its introduction. There are relative ones that can delay the introduction. At a minimum, the temperature should have been measured ... And the fact that the "shoulder was taken away" is normal Yes painful muck.
      3. +1
        April 3 2021 19: 57
        And the vaccination passport, you are not familiar with that?
        For a long time they gave out to everyone, there are all the necessary marks ...
        I also stepped on nails, I thought I wouldn't have to go to the vaccine ... I looked at the documentary, counted and went to the clinic, got another tetanus shot. Everything's Alright.
        I and the dogs all have such documents, and the instinct of self-preservation whispers to a person, whispers that it is necessary to take care of the documentary.
        1. +3
          April 3 2021 20: 25
          Quote: rocket757
          And the vaccination passport, you are not familiar with that?

          As a child it was familiar .. my children still have it now .. but I don’t, and when I was vaccinated, they didn’t even give any paperwork ..
          1. +1
            April 3 2021 21: 14
            So you have a mess with.
            I have an old documentary, I don't know from what time, there is another one at the enterprise. As he went to work, they did another one. Everything is strict there. They call the medical unit and spank the vaccinations strictly on record. So sho I have a full set of vaccinations.
            When I was vaccinated against "nails" I was on vacation, I had to take the old "passport" and make a mark in the new one, Schaub was not called again.
            This is how it is with us. The order is kept.
            In principle, it is convenient. When I "caught" a tick in the summer, there was no need to carry it to the laboratory ... otherwise there are quite a few cases when people get sick from insect bites. Alas, alas, there is a lot of infectious diseases around.
            1. +2
              April 3 2021 21: 20
              By the way, there are two deaths in the last month of RABIES. Cats got infected, from them the mistress ... a girl and a woman, they did not have time to save !!! Not far from us.
              I had to vaccinate all cats at the municipal veterinarian, free of charge.
              God protects those who are careful ... I think so.
  12. +3
    April 3 2021 16: 12
    Quote: Niko
    Exactly. "The pernicious influence of the West, these idiotic toys ...." And it doesn't matter that the author cannot understand the difference between the 19th and the Flu, (which even a primary school student is capable of). The main thing is more pretentious accusations in all directions ... It's a pity that the author does not have a recipe shared HOW IT IS NECESSARY. (whether to sprinkle holy water?)

    I probably agree with you. The author is a person who does not understand anything in medicine. Influenza virus and Covid-19 are not the same thing. we have just the third wave in Germany. common strain and British mutation.
    paradoxically, this is what the covid virus is. In October, as a health worker and having contact with infected people, I fell ill with mild symptoms. The day before the confirmation of the diagnosis, there was malaise and, well, they had very close contact with his wife. so then on the third day my scent disappeared and my wife had NOTHING at all! after 10 days of quarantine, they passed the test - both were negative. Then they passed the analysis for antibodies. I have a titer of 221+, and my wife has a titer of 0,3+. That also happens!
    1. +1
      April 3 2021 22: 08
      Please decipher what the title is and what these numbers mean, I'm not an expert.
      1. 0
        April 4 2021 01: 12
        to put it simply, well, this is the maximum dilution of blood plasma, at which it is still possible to detect antibodies. The higher the titer number, the stronger the immunity.
        1. +1
          April 4 2021 08: 54
          Thank you.
  13. 0
    April 3 2021 16: 19
    Self-isolation mode (some kind of nonsense) is still needed to turn people into zombies. Plus, the money allocated for the fight against covid has not yet been fully utilized. Check and checkmate to citizens.
    1. +3
      April 3 2021 22: 05
      Not that they are not fully mastered, they have just begun to master them ... There is no plowed field, plow and plow, chop and chop.
  14. Loh
    +5
    April 3 2021 16: 20
    .
    . [iHave it helped? The effect of vaccination does not give lifelong immunity, and the virus constantly mutates .. but gives side effects ..] [/ i].
    And how much immunity does the flu have? Vaccination required annually winked
  15. +7
    April 3 2021 16: 23
    So why the hell are we closing the borders, turning tourism and aviation into hopeless bankrupts?
    maybe our tour operator should have taken care of this issue 5-10 years ago? !!
    do not cut the loot on the resale of mets in Turkish hotels, but invest in tourist routes within the country, build large hotels, small hotels at affordable prices, but why is it much easier to take a part from the client for a guest in Turkey or somewhere else and not a damn thing dalaya put profit in my pocket
    I don't even want to write about the poor aviators, well, they are all so poor and unhappy that all that remains is for everyone to throw off their food together, otherwise they will die of hunger
  16. +1
    April 3 2021 16: 38
    Henceforth, we will be smarter. And the power too. We should have laughed less at China and closed the borders. And not to announce free weekends with the whole crowd, people rushed to the foreign countries, as the sweats fell in price. And with the same "zeal" the authorities began to take citizens back, collecting everything that could fly.
    1. Alf
      +3
      April 3 2021 17: 45
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      we will be smarter. And the power too.

      The concepts of "power" and "mind" are categorically opposite.
      1. -4
        April 3 2021 17: 47
        I agree .. But what kind of power we have chosen, we live with that. Elections, not a registry office, do not drag anyone there.
        1. +1
          April 4 2021 10: 43
          Honestly, I want to swear. Well, I did not choose this power for myself, they imposed it on me with tank barrels, through concussion and destruction of a cozy, humane world. Those, too, had enough foolishness, one Lenichkin iconostasis was worth a lot, but in general these barriers of reason jumped over. They don't see anything, except for the margin.
  17. Cat
    0
    April 3 2021 16: 44
    However, I still had to pass the test once, which I honestly admitted to

  18. +8
    April 3 2021 16: 48
    Guys, maybe I'm a cynic, but the one who is destined to drown will not die from the fire .. or sit for days with a notebook until old age, counting until the next vaccination with an efficiency of 91,75% (about the satellite)? it is necessary and possible to be insured, to defend itself ... but .. what will be, that cannot be avoided .. man assumes, but God disposes .. until immunity appears, everything is without guarantees .. it depends on us, conditionally .. and all kinds of quarantines, masks is just a decrease in the wave, not a salvation ..
  19. +1
    April 3 2021 16: 50
    I have been ill. Dexamethazone saved the house
    1. +1
      April 4 2021 05: 44
      Dexamethazone saved the house

      Better methylprednisolone. Dexamethasone reduces deaths in critically ill patients by a third and methylprednisolone by 45%. Only getting it is harder.
      https://nauka.tass.ru/nauka/9753007
      1. -1
        April 4 2021 09: 12
        I'm talking about what I've experienced
      2. -1
        April 4 2021 09: 13
        By the way, in the country, there was no Dexamethasone in pharmacies at all from November to February
    2. 0
      April 4 2021 10: 22
      "DEXAMETAZONE saved"
      https://www.vidal.ru/drugs/dexamethasone__3484 , про вирус там ни слова
      1. 0
        April 4 2021 10: 52
        So he saved me, he relieves pulmonary edema, if the lungs are swollen ... All the cranks, only Dexamethasone, he lifted my vital tone, without him it was bad
        1. 0
          April 4 2021 17: 46
          "So he saved me, he relieves pulmonary edema, if the lungs are swollen ..."
          So you had pulmonary edema, not a virus?
          1. 0
            April 4 2021 21: 17
            Are you sane? Pneumonia is the consequences of the virus, there is no cure for the virus and there is no cure for the virus, the covid does not lyse at all, they treat its consequences by poking, figuratively speaking, which helps, then the doctor prescribes
            When you get infected, you will understand everything yourself, but clarifying questions because you do not understand the essence
            1. 0
              April 6 2021 08: 36
              "Are you sane?"
              and you?
              "Pneumonia is the consequences of the virus, there is no cure for the virus and there is no cure for the virus, the covid does not develop at all."
              and what am I talking about? were you sick, allegedly, if you were sick, with pneumonia, which you can pick up everywhere, where does the virus have to do with it? not treated because there is nothing to treat, or no one? and the fact that doctors always act at random, from great knowledge, you do not know? or the doctor himself?
              1. 0
                April 6 2021 08: 42
                Yes, did you hear about the test?
                Do you know that the virus appeared only a year ago? And you know the cure for him already? A difficult case in your case, I did not think that the doctor knows how to treat the virus that just appeared ... I am already silent about the consequences ... in the form of polysegmental pneumonia ...
                1. 0
                  April 10 2021 09: 24
                  "Yeah, have you heard anything about the test?"
                  I heard, of course, not only you have ears. 50% probability is so-so accuracy, consider that it is not at all.
                  this virus is millions of years old, just last year, someone needed to declare it fatal and incurable. and the doctor does not himself determine what to treat him and develops a system of treatment, he cannot do this in any way, education does not allow him, they stupidly drop a paper from the Ministry of Health to treat this and that, and so much time, it did not work out, try it. didn't work - to the morgue. that's how they treat, and they treated before the virus. even if elementary pneumonia, known for thousands of years, and with a long-established method of treatment, now I can not cure, but they called it polysegmental - which in translation from medical into Russian sounds something like this, I don’t know how to treat, and I don’t want to strain, everything is for you will pay anyway, that's all. You got good health from your ancestors - you will survive and recover, poorly with immunity, you will die in terrible convulsions, you will be another victim of the virus, you yourself say that doctors do not know what to treat. so they won't heal
  20. +8
    April 3 2021 17: 14
    Of course, there will be the 3rd and 4th and nth waves, they are already "casting the bait" about the "horror-horror" bird flu, otherwise it will be necessary to answer questions, such as where is my plant, where is my salary, what is my and my family to eat, what have you "ruled" here for 30 years, and most importantly, what's next? Corono-rule, in my understanding, and if logically (even with the advice, when there was a normal education, this thing was taught) to think, this is not about the disease, the ARI pandemic, even with a stretch, does not pull, tb. when this is done exclusively by bureaucrats and other figures far from medicine. Although here you will not be surprised when a journalist is in charge of space, and a thieving manager of furniture production is in charge of the development of aviation, and Golikova's accountant is clearly not an epidemiologist or even a veterinarian, but about the measure of the capital with his kept woman, who suddenly, from some hangover, headed the front of the fight against the newfangled virus, which is more than one thousand years old, needless to say. Therefore, one should not be surprised why we are in space on the sidelines, give-bring, why do we have Boeings and Azrbases at airports, hence the gloves, which, on the contrary, are carriers of infection and even worse than Orz, at the same time coffin the skin of the hands, a drop in immunity from "home arrest ". Moreover, if we take into account how deliberately and deliberately they kill Platoshkin, the nobility and her servants know perfectly well what and why they kept everyone in stuffy apartments all summer and took away passes, for which the children were deprived of school and vacations by the sea. The directive from the overseas metropolis about the "golden billion" must be carried out unquestioningly, even contrary to common sense, and our "plan" is still being thwarted by an insufficiently "moronic" population. And then there is this "circus" with imitation of elections, incl. The boyar class cannot be envied, the house is full of worries, so the slaves must be dispersed through the cracks so that they sit and do not buzz, incl. we are waiting for the peak "horror-horror" at the end of summer and the beginning of autumn. Of course, this is my personal opinion, I do not pretend to be an analyst from medicine and political science, and my education is engineering, although in our country, as practice shows, this does not mean anything.
  21. +1
    April 3 2021 17: 39
    Actually, the author is rather strange. On the one hand, I will not get vaccinated, on the other hand, when all this is over. When 2/3 are vaccinated, then it will end. I don't like Russian vaccines, come to us, like AstraZenec (excuse Vaxzevria) brought in a little. We have people specially to go to Russia to get vaccinated, and he can wait, you see. Well, send me the vaccine you are supposed to receive, I will gladly accept it, I will even send you a bottle of brandy.
    1. +7
      April 3 2021 21: 02
      Ah, it never ends. wink It is in vain that from all the irons they broadcast that the vaccine "works" only for half a year, it is necessary to be re-vaccinated for another one and there is little on the way of the third or fourth (and further down the list) wave of coronavirus, which has also mutated into "complete horror", from which it is necessary to develop a new vaccine and use more sophisticated (read, more expensive) masks and other means of protection ... This is already a well-established industry for the right people - the industry of enrichment through the "coronovirus". Governments, under the "guise" of a "pandemic", need to adopt even more documents restricting the rights and freedoms of citizens, allegedly helping to "fight" the coronavirus. And in the future, "convenient for everyone" - "digital concentration camp" with regulated reproduction, not of citizens, but of "units". Yes
      1. +5
        April 3 2021 21: 51
        Now is the time to cut the loot on vaccines, masks and sterilizers. There are also such amounts, and everything, for sure, is under control at the top (who is allowed to the pie, and who is not). No matter how eternal (before the change of government) this pandemic is made. By and large, it is a crime against the people. And the most important thing. Great SEOs are in charge of the "fight" against the pandemic. By the way, in the headquarters, in the fight against coronavirus, there is no one: economists, security officials (even from foreign intelligence), transport workers, a gynecologist, a veterinarian, there is even an epidemiologist (Popova), there are only virologists.
      2. 0
        April 4 2021 10: 34
        "use more sophisticated (read-more expensive) masks and other means of protection"
        by the way, about the masks. Quality tested “Face masks (disposable and reusable) masks and personal protective equipment (respirators FFP2) have been tested 14 fabric masks showed low filtration efficiency. Therefore, none of them are recommended for use.
        Tested with 7 microorganisms, including Staphylococcus aureus 906, which resembles aerosol droplets through which COVID-19 spreads in shape and action, reusable non-woven masks from three manufacturers and another manufacturer that makes disposable three-layer medical masks have been tested.
        And in order to find out whether the mask protects against viruses that are on average 50 times smaller than bacteria in size, the specialists of Roskachestvo used a poliovirus solution (polioemelitis virus), which is identical in size to the coronavirus. The solution was applied to a fragment of the mask and passed through all layers under pressure.
        The result of the experiment is not comforting: all masks let viruses pass, and none of them guarantees 100% protection. The best results were obtained with one non-fabric reusable mask. It allows up to 56,2% of viruses to pass through. The KN95 FFP2 mask respirator with a valve has the worst result - its throughput was 97,11%, that is, this personal protective equipment retains only less than 3% of viruses. "
        sorry for the long quote. if something is a Russian newspaper
    2. 0
      April 4 2021 10: 25
      "When 2/3 are vaccinated, then it will end"
      rumor has it that one hundred weather vaccination works, so what?
    3. 0
      April 4 2021 10: 26
      "We have people specially go to Russia to get vaccinated"
      and you personally know many such people?
  22. -3
    April 3 2021 17: 44
    It is a pity that these same covid dissidents are not forcibly isolated.
    You look, there would be fewer fools of immortals, maybe the third wave would have died out by itself.
  23. +2
    April 3 2021 18: 15
    As for the covid, I'll tell you honestly and directly ... from my point of view (in the past, the winner of all kinds of olympiads in biology and chemistry) - IF THERE WAS THAT LEVEL OF MEDICINE DEVELOPMENT IN THE WORLD, at least in the late 80s in the USSR, they simply counted covid would be one of the types of flu (for reference - from the REGULAR flu on a global scale, both dying and dying, and so MORE people will die than from covid)

    Well, you must admit - it's funny ... in the city at 50 !!! thousands of residents in only 4 hospitals in total !!! 3 breathing apparatus !!! and it is 50 km from Moscow !!! and this is in the 21st century !!!!!!! am
    1. 0
      April 4 2021 10: 52
      "This is ridiculous ... in a city of 50 !!! thousand inhabitants in only 4 hospitals in total !!! 3 apparatus for maintaining breathing !!!"
      "there are no three-eighths of an inch dice, but the tram is going to start up!"
      why is it needed, this "breathing apparatus"?
      1. 0
        April 4 2021 13: 57
        Quote: aglet
        "This is ridiculous ... in a city of 50 !!! thousand inhabitants in only 4 hospitals in total !!! 3 apparatus for maintaining breathing !!!"
        "there are no three-eighths of an inch dice, but the tram is going to start up!"
        why is it needed, this "breathing apparatus"?

        Well, in general, artificial respiration devices are needed in order to forcibly ventilate a person's lungs when the human body is almost dying ... feel
        1. 0
          April 4 2021 17: 08
          "Apparatus for artificial respiration are needed in order to forcibly ventilate the lungs of a person when the human body is practically on the verge of death ..."
          Yes, I know that, only not at death, but when the respiratory reflex has faded, but in this particular case, "Well, you must admit, this is ridiculous ... in a city of 50 !!! thousand residents in only 4 hospitals in total !!! 3 devices to maintain breathing !!! and this is 50 km from Moscow !!! and this is in the 21st century !!!!!!! ", what does that have to do with it? even American doctors said that with the virus, IVL is harmful, because it damages the lungs, and about IVL, in the light of treatment for the virus, no one mentions, well, except for you
  24. +5
    April 3 2021 18: 33
    I did not give in and do not give in to provocations with a pandemic. muzzle, as he did not wear. I will not wear it. And if you include logic, what nafig help can be from a dirty rag against the background of the size of the virus. only harm and unsanitary conditions.
    1. +7
      April 3 2021 20: 25
      Quote: lis-ik
      what nafig help can be from a dirty rag against the background of the size of the virus.

      laughing You want to say that a mask protects against a virus, is it like ... a netting "netting" from mosquitoes?
      1. 0
        April 4 2021 08: 01
        Exactly. It only protects others from a sick person with obvious symptoms. If I am not sick, why do I need a mask?
        Wearing which is by no means good for your health.
  25. +1
    April 3 2021 19: 23
    Quote: FIR FIR
    Surprised.
    Quote: SRC P-15
    but I live in the Moscow region

    Do not be surprised, my Mom is a military medic (long retired) faced similar unprofessionalism (departmental polyclinic) MSC region.
  26. +2
    April 3 2021 19: 39
    So now the seasonal phenomenon of acute acute respiratory infections, against their background of ARVI, has always been so. The change of season and people get sick more often. After winter, even more so, the body is weakened. Covid is like the flu, and I think this is just a kind of one berry field. But to the world government wassat to aggravate the crisis, this is exactly what is needed. And history suggests that the way out of the crisis is always a war. Or rather, after the war, economic growth begins. Although after the war with the use of modern technologies, nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, bio, etc., etc. what will remain?
  27. +2
    April 3 2021 19: 42
    And overcrowded hospitals are more likely a result, albeit a by-product, of the optimization of the same medicine that preceded Covid, to which everyone is now taking off their hats.
    Exactly! If infectious diseases hospitals and infectious diseases wards had not been closed (in Moscow) in 2012 (the bed fund is underutilized, you see!), Then these pre-fabricated huts with oxygen supply would not have had to be built.
    1. +3
      April 3 2021 21: 44
      They mentioned Moscow in vain. This was done all over Russia.
      1. +2
        April 3 2021 22: 10
        Quote: rjpthju
        They mentioned Moscow in vain. This was done all over Russia.
        Yes? And I thought it was solely Sobyanin's work.
        1. +3
          April 3 2021 22: 14
          Take it higher, Putin. I doubt he was unaware.
          1. +4
            April 4 2021 08: 03
            What are you, how can you! stop Putin is not vkurse, this is all his entourage! laughing
            1. -1
              April 4 2021 08: 51
              The priest Gapon is not enough for him to lead people to the king, to tell how bad things are for people, otherwise he really does not know what the boyars are doing.
              1. +2
                April 4 2021 09: 54
                How not, and Navalny? bully
                Joke. laughing Everything is in the know, just the position of a good tsar and bad boyars is very convenient for manipulation and restraint of public discontent. hi
  28. 0
    April 3 2021 19: 43
    Everything is correct as it is. Ipro comparison with the flu is not a little more terrible, more dangerous, as well as with the flu complications. And about medicine. More precisely about its optimization.
  29. +4
    April 3 2021 19: 45
    Defective managers have been optimized. How many more brothers and sisters Storetkin has! Everyone is trying to tear it apart, you bastards!
  30. +5
    April 3 2021 19: 50
    I am the one who has not bought a single mask.
    Zadolbali, first, third wave. At least the dating was written for persuasiveness.
    For example, I can tell the dates of existence of the first, second, third, etc. anti-French coalitions ... And then a wave! And when did the previous one end?
    Moreover, you need to wear a mask when you yourself are sick, in other cases - what for? Here in Ukraine again some kind of super-duper quarantine. Only last year you stay at home, but today you don’t care. Although last year there were 50 cases (kind of like) and everyone was crap, but now it is 100 times more (a conditional number, too lazy to look for officialdom).
    1. +6
      April 4 2021 01: 42
      Now in the west, a company is rising to tighten the mask regime - not only do masks have to be worn everywhere, but also of the FPP2 type, that is, which restrict breathing due to low bandwidth. Moreover, you can wear such masks according to the instructions for no more than one hour, otherwise, difficulties with dtskhaniya and interruptions in the work of the heart. But nobody talks about it. And think about what the wearing of such masks will lead to with hypertensive patients and heart patients. And they ask such deaths for coronavirus, who will check it. Despite the fact that a heart attack looks like this, a person suffocates and constantly coughs.
  31. +3
    April 3 2021 21: 41
    I am 63 years old. For twenty years, for sure, or maybe more, he has not been vaccinated against the flu and has not been sick. About ten years ago, I was persuaded once at work ... did ... got sick. I have given up getting vaccinated against the flu and will refrain from covid. This is a dangerous business, vaccinations ... Several years ago I caught some strange infection. Was on a business trip a week before leaving home, the sense of smell and touch (smell and taste) disappeared. I felt usually, only odorless and tasteless. I came home, and my wife got sick with the same nonsense (or whatever you call it). The same as mine. Three weeks later, the taste and smell returned, a week after me, and my wife's. We still don’t understand what it was.
  32. +3
    April 3 2021 21: 48
    I looked at my cat and thought, what was it for? Insanity grows stronger - the loot is washed away.
  33. 0
    April 3 2021 22: 23
    Our beloved Kabbalist Gref claims that the 3-wave of Kovidka is approaching. His sidekick in the West told him so. So he began to crow. In 2020, there will be a monstrous excess of mortality in Russia and mainly not because of covid. The collapse of medicine, lack of medical care, monstrous everyday stress. And no warriors are needed. You can and so dispose of the population. There are hundreds of diseases that are much worse than covid. That's why people die from them. Cancer, heart attack, stroke, blood clots, sepsis and others. Our population is superfluous for the world behind the scenes and their sixes.
  34. +2
    April 4 2021 03: 08
    The author exposes beautifully, but the third wave is inevitable since only 4 percent of the population was vaccinated, moreover, the author is one of the cohort of those who refused vaccination due to their cowardice.
    1. +3
      April 4 2021 08: 08
      Quote: Squelcher
      but the third wave is inevitable

      As well as the fourth, the fifth and all the following. laughing Where do you get information about waves from?
      ARVI was and will be, only each time it is different strains and mutations. In relation to vaccination against ARVI and influenza, the expression about generals who are always preparing for past wars is suitable.
      1. +1
        April 4 2021 15: 55
        Yes, dear man, how dense you are in your "rightness" :). Heard a ringing but not about that.
        1. -2
          April 4 2021 16: 02
          And in fact a bunch of puddles? wink
          1. 0
            April 5 2021 01: 39
            Yes, well, tell me about the ARVI vaccine, everyone will laugh.
            What is it Alive, Molecular, Inactivated, or Toxoid?
            The hardening of the pistil, stamen, genetics and Lysenkoism are immediately visible.
            1. -1
              April 5 2021 10: 38
              Quote: Squelcher
              oh well, tell me about the ARVI vaccine, everyone will laugh.

              Laughing for no reason is a sign of fooling around. wink There are several vaccines for ARVI, which one to tell you about? About the influenza vaccine (and it is also ARVI), which was vaccinated in Russia in 2019, and a few months later, WHO experts admitted that the forecast was mistaken with the definition of the strain, and all influenza vaccination that year was meaningless?
              There is no need to pretend to be an authority - if you want to communicate, communicate in detail, and not in the style of the media, that only vaccination will save you from the next waves of covid.
              1. 0
                April 5 2021 15: 02
                Again, the person passing by is nice, for a start, figure out how the flu differs from ARVI.
                At the expense of the beginning of communication, I advise you to look in the mirror. Although baldness is difficult to convince.
                1. 0
                  April 5 2021 16: 16
                  Quote: Squelcher
                  Again, the person passing by is nice, first figure out what the flu from ARVI

                  Before being clever, ask about the definition of ARVI. wink
                  1. 0
                    April 5 2021 17: 45
                    Yes, to begin with: dear man, you, like any other person, in the event of a flu virus get complications and die are much more likely. Therefore, this virus was isolated from the ARVI group and is vaccinated separately.
                    Is there a flu shot, but what about ARVI?
                    Yes, I now understand why, people with the "best education in the world" charged water cans in front of the TV. Good luck and do not get sick, hide behind the backs of those who are vaccinated.
                    1. 0
                      April 5 2021 19: 34
                      Quote: Squelcher
                      Therefore, this virus was isolated from the ARVI group and is vaccinated separately.

                      Once again - ask about the definition of ARVI. Influenza and Coronoviruses are included in the ARVI group. As well as syphilis and gonorrhea are included in the group of sexually transmitted diseases, and psoriasis and eczema are in the group of skin diseases.
                      And I'm not hiding behind anyone's back, I don't need to post templates. This is my choice, I decided to stay at risk. You can even inject arsenic for yourself, but don't meddle with me.
                      1. 0
                        April 6 2021 02: 09
                        About a less intelligible comment prepared. Maybe the next time before you write, familiarize yourself with the topic (it's like a vaccination).
                        They don't come to you - vaccination is voluntary, but opponents of vaccination - covid deniers - climb with their tales and inventions.
  35. 0
    April 4 2021 03: 09
    The article is covidiot nonsense.
    And you don't have to be nicely called a "covid dissident".

    Even when the first data from China came - and it became clear what it was (in short - SARS / MERS with a long asymptomatic period) - the whole business was cardinally closed and went into the cache (with decent losses), although they looked at me like an idiot ...

    Many acquaintances were killed, in the family - an uncle died, a couple of aunts - walked along the edge, but now - health problems ... In the house - xs how many, they have already stopped counting, on my floor - a doctor-neighbor died ... Yes, even a crow sheltered from a friend who also died ... Moscow.

    Not to be confused with influenza ... Different mechanisms of interaction of bbm from the point of view of biomedical chemistry ...

    And yes, I was also grafted into the fifth satellite, and earlier - about twelve years ago - with another "satellite" ... So talk about "archives" is also from the evil one, the vaccine for 25 years (for the locals - an analogue: the rocket has been tested and worked out, they only change warhead).

    But I never thought about influenza - a "classic vaccine", because allergy sufferers and asthmatics ...
    1. -2
      April 4 2021 10: 42
      "in the family - uncle died"
      uncle how old was?
      "In the house - xs how many, they have already stopped counting, on my floor - a doctor-neighbor died ... Yes, he even sheltered a crow from a friend who also died ... Moscow."
      how do you live in this core of death? so many people have already died, they are already tired of counting, but there is no need to fan rumors and panic, you are our businessman, cached
      1. 0
        April 4 2021 12: 27
        how do you live in this core of death? so many people have already died, they are already tired of counting, only rumors and panic do not need to be fanned,


        Yes, nifiga is not the core of death, everything is more or less evenly ... As elsewhere - part of the park walks in a monthly mask (as in an amulet), the other part rushes to shops and clinics without masks ... and only a few observe the minimum -the necessary precautions ... so we live here calmly and with humor ...

        . how old was the uncle?

        Dohrena, but what's the difference at what age 90% of lung damage is received ... He also "did not believe in covid" and stubbornly sent everyone to the last ...

        ... and rumors are inflated mainly by adherents of the worldwide conspiracy sect ...
        1. -3
          April 4 2021 17: 17
          ". How old was your uncle?
          Dohrena, but what's the difference at what age 90% of lung damage is received ... "
          Here's another interesting question, what does 90% lung damage mean? lately, such a medical term has appeared, well, like, force majeure circumstances? so often and thickly the media assert that one, then another pension Erku with lung damage in 98% doctors save heroically. what about your uncle?
          "... and rumors are inflated mainly by adherents of the worldwide conspiracy sect ..."
          aha, about the coming of the holy virus, and the life-giving mask
          1. +2
            April 4 2021 23: 33
            "first one, then another pension Erka with a lung disease in 98%, doctors save heroically" - so every time they talk about a miracle ... But that's why it's a miracle - they are still rare ... If miracles became a routine - about them and wouldn't tell ...
            1. -1
              April 6 2021 08: 25
              "But that's why it is a miracle - they are still rare ..."
              rare, when one, and when there are several, it is already commonplace. it's just that not many pensioners get sick, that's why they cure a little
              1. 0
                April 7 2021 01: 19
                He gets sick a lot, in Moscow - for sure ...
  36. +2
    April 4 2021 04: 29
    Surprisingly, amazingly .. But in our region from November to March NOT A SINGLE CASE OF FLU has been registered, as the competent authorities broadcast ... Here it is the PARADOX of being ... Or maybe they did not check, or concealed, in order to fulfill certain installations or instructions.
  37. +2
    April 4 2021 05: 32
    About vaccination. Perhaps things are going well in Moscow and St. Petersburg, but in Novosibirsk I signed up for vaccinations in January, and already in April. And they tell me that it will take a long time to wait - the vaccine comes in small batches.
  38. 0
    April 4 2021 13: 28
    I know for sure an example of a comrade who took a risk and died after the second vaccination, although no one, of course, officially recorded this in our country.

    To the author: is it possible in more detail - appearances, passwords (name, place, dates, copies of documents)? Any hack can cast a shadow over a vaccine, but a journalist must do it with reason.
    1. +1
      April 4 2021 14: 05
      Reminds me "if you hadn't gone to the dentist, you would have stayed with your teeth" ...
      ... by the way, about masks and gloves - in the same place ...
  39. 0
    April 4 2021 14: 55
    And then there is a certain "deputy". Maybe he was once a doctor. At the moment - something.
    https://iz.ru/1145406/2021-04-01/onishchenko-predlozhil-obiazat-rossiian-nosit-maski-na-postoiannoi-osnove
  40. +2
    April 4 2021 15: 52
    Don't rush to throw off your masks!

    Always be masked -
    My destiny.
    Myste X
  41. +3
    April 4 2021 20: 57
    However, they got sick and died, not least because of the inflated panic, hysteria, which hit both the psyche and directly to the health. And of course, because of the insane overexertion, which, to be honest, looks too much like a provocation.

    Dear author, I am glad that you did not lie like me in August for 18 days in the hospital with 60 percent pneumonia, and then a month later you didn’t push your sick wife there with difficulty at a rate of 38.9! I am glad that you didn’t wait for an ambulance all day long, didn’t breathe oxygen and helium, didn’t see how men were taken away from neighboring wards, with whom they sprinkled together in the toilet, to the intensive care unit and did not return from there!
    And who, like me, smelled all this, who looked into the face of the therapist in a mask and saw uncertainty in her eyes ... he will understand me! Yes, since some of us have not been touched by this infection ... But who, how I got through, knows that there is nothing exaggerated in this!
    1. 0
      April 6 2021 10: 10
      Dear author, I am glad that you did not lie like me in August for 18 days in the hospital with 60 percent pneumonia and then a month later did not push yours there with difficulty.

      None of those present here personally know you, so there is no way to confirm the veracity of your story.

      You can read a million such stories, in reality - the numbers do not show any suspicious mortality, the age and diagnoses of people recorded as victims of covid make it doubtful that they died from covid. They wouldn't last long without pneumonia

      "Waves" of covid strangely coincide in time with traditional outbreaks of influenza (fall and spring)

      Thousands of patients did not manage to receive medical assistance on time due to the disruption of the working regime of all organizations and medical institutions caused by restrictive measures. Which inevitably harmed the health of more people than pneumonia

      The story of the deadly Covid is absurd in every sense
      1. 0
        April 6 2021 22: 16
        I didn't really want to confirm it to you, dear Oleg ... But I am glad that the Americans you love have not invented a good vaccine, but we have it and I received the first vaccination! And I am glad that the Volgograd doctors saved me, because the statistics of your beloved Anglo-Saxons are plowing and if I had them I would have had a kirdyks!
      2. 0
        April 6 2021 22: 31
        None of those present here personally know you, so there is no way to confirm the veracity of your story.


        Okay look!
        1. 0
          April 7 2021 03: 09
          It is a pity that you are sick
          And it's great that you and your wife were cured!

          Russian medicine, with its advantages and disadvantages, meets the standards of the developed countries of the world.

          As for the disease itself (pneumonia), it is quite common and very dangerous. There are often consequences. At least two acquaintances (25 and 85 years old) died from her, and many years beforeannouncements of the Covid epidemic.

          But no one has ever given such popularity to premonia, talked so much about it and stopped the economies of countries.

          In the United States, 500 thousand people officially died from Covid in a year
          With a total annual mortality in the country on average of 3 million people

          And how many people did not receive really necessary, urgent medical care, due to the cancellation of planned operations, and died during this period due to artificially provoked panic

          Taking into account the published diagnoses of the victims of Covid, the vast majority added to the statistics of deaths even without the epidemic. Severe fatal diseases at an extreme stage

          What we have.

          Good health to you, Alexey Nikolaevich! hi
  42. -2
    April 6 2021 09: 38
    One-sided.
    In the Moscow region, in zamkadysh, with a strong current, many are simply not diagnosed.

    I passed it myself for antibodies - then the crown. Didn't pass - ARI.
    Under NG it was the same back.
    Crown? - Well, you just caught a cold. well the flu. Well, pneumonia, the usual, has already passed, the pictures confirm.

    And at work, 2 colleagues, at the same time, themselves donated a crown on their bodies.
  43. 0
    April 6 2021 10: 02
    The author himself was not sick with covid? And there were no acquaintances of the dead? Or does he live far from people?
    The most harmful article. Here I am what a revelatory hero. Everything is not true, there is no covid, there is no epidemic, the FSE is lying.
    And he would lie down for 10 days with pneumonia in the quarantine zone, where they bring those who do not believe in the virus, and they are bent in a day, despite the mechanical ventilation. Only in my ward, three went to another world. They didn't believe it either.
    In my case, everything turned out to be a little bloody. Temperature 38 in the evenings, X-ray shows that everything is clear, and only CT showed that the lung was hurt from behind.
    Don't listen to the "brave" dissidents. You need to be vaccinated. God saves man, who save himself.
  44. 0
    April 10 2021 14: 36
    Already both the Chinese and our scientists openly declare that the virus 19 is a "product" of s!
    Appeared suddenly and took over the planet with lightning speed! The Thais demanded that the Americans declassify the work in numerous laboratories scattered around the planet, most of which are located on our and Chinese borders!

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