Penal disposable grenade launcher. Unpromising initiative

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Penal disposable grenade launcher. Unpromising initiative
"Pencil" product and its ammunition. Photo Weaponland.ru

The throwing range of a hand grenade is determined by the physical condition and skills of the fighter, but does not exceed several tens of meters. To attack more distant targets, it is necessary to use technical means - a variety of grenade launchers. At the end of the seventies, as an experiment, a disposable grenade launcher "Penal" was created, which was distinguished by its small size and rather high combat characteristics.

Problem and Solution


The hand grenade is small in size and weight, but its flight range does not exceed 30-40 m. Grenade launchers can shoot hundreds of meters, but have significant dimensions and weight. In a number of situations, a fighter may need a light and compact system suitable for throwing a grenade over long distances. Under-barrel grenade launchers became a good solution to this problem at one time, but they could only be used with machine guns, which could lead to difficulties of an ergonomic and operational nature.



At the end of the seventies, the designer of the Tula TsKIB SOO Valery Nikolaevich Telesh began to develop an original grenade launcher, combining convenience and high combat qualities. The product with the working name "Pencil" was based on a number of curious ideas and was distinguished by the most simple design. The grenade launcher was planned to be made disposable and always ready for use. He had to use a VOG-25 shot or other 40-mm ammunition, incl. non-lethal equipment.

The resulting sample could be of interest for various structures. First of all, the customer could be an army interested in the development of a system of infantry weapons. The non-lethal "Pencil" could be of interest to various structures from the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the KGB.

Simplification course


The Penal disposable grenade launcher externally was a metal cylinder with closed ends. On the side there was a simple trigger mechanism with a safety pin and a ring. The length of the item was 200 mm, the diameter was approx. 45 mm, weight with ammunition - 700 g.

The main part of the grenade launcher was a rifled barrel. It was made in the form of a thin-walled aluminum tube with the necessary holes and internal elements. In the front of the tube, rifling was provided, similar to the thread of the GP-25 grenade launcher. To fix the shot in the working position, there were stops inside the barrel.

The trigger was placed on the side of the barrel. It consisted of a spring plate with a drummer, its support and a safety catch in the form of a check. When fired, the spring was supposed to provide a blow to the grenade primer.


Reconstruction of the appearance of the "Penal". In the foreground is a combat-ready grenade launcher, behind is a VOG-25 shot, a barrel and anti-mass blocks. Graphics War-time.ru

Any adaptations to improve ergonomics weapons were not provided. It was proposed to take and hold the grenade launcher by the barrel-body. Horizontal guidance was carried out "by eye". Experienced grenade launchers did not have the means for vertical guidance, but, according to some reports, in the future it was planned to apply a simple rangefinder scale to the hull.

The "Pencil" product was to be assembled and equipped at the factory. A VOG-25 shot or other product with suitable characteristics was placed in the central part of the barrel. In the back of the barrel, behind the grenade, an anti-mass was placed in the form of a set of round plates made of aluminum or plastic. The ends were closed with knock-out covers that were torn off when fired. The recoilless system has reduced the requirements for barrel strength and made it lighter.

As part of the Penal system, it was proposed to use different ammunition. First of all, this is the VOG-25 fragmentation grenade and its modifications. It was also allowed to use the unified product "Nail" with an irritant like CS, smoke grenade VDG-40, etc.

The design muzzle velocity of the grenade reached 90 m / s. The maximum firing range is 300 m. Low accuracy was expected, but it had to be compensated for by the action of the ammunition: the scattering of fragments of a combat grenade or the formation of a gas cloud from a non-lethal product.

By simplifying the design as much as possible, it was possible to reduce the cost of mass production. The serial "Penal" was not much more expensive than the VOG-25 fragmentation grenade. Consequently, for the price of two grenades, it was possible to get not only ammunition, but also a device for throwing it at a long distance.

Recoilless hand weapon


From the point of view of the principles of operation, the "Penal" was a recoilless weapon with recoil damping due to the release of counter-mass. This feature imposed some restrictions on the application.

The grenade launcher could be carried in any suitable pouch or otherwise. Before the shot, it was necessary to remove it and remove the ring with the check. After that, the product was ready to fire. The "pencil case" was required to be taken away from oneself in order not to fall under the influence of powder gases or flying out elements. It was also necessary to monitor the safety of others.


VOG-25 grenades in a standard container. Photo Wikimedia Commons

With the help of an eye gauge and a scale, the shooters had to aim at the target, after which it was possible to press the trigger. This led to the ignition of the grenade charge and to a shot. The grenade tore off the front cover and sent to the target, and the powder gases through the rear cut knocked out the counter-mass and the cover. This action of the weapon made it possible to do without tangible recoil.

No prospects


It is known that at least one experimental grenade launcher was manufactured at TsKIB SOO, which was used in tests. This product was tested at a test site and its real characteristics were established. Apparently, the prototype was repeatedly reloaded, which showed the fundamental possibility of manufacturing not only disposable grenade launchers.

The design parameters and fighting qualities were confirmed. However, this fact did not affect the real prospects of the grenade launcher. According to known data, none of the departments, considered as potential customers, did not want to purchase "Pencil cases". In the existing weapons systems of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the KGB, there was simply no place for such products. The military and security officials continued to use standard hand grenades and grenade launchers of all existing models.

According to some sources, "Penal" was nevertheless adopted by one of the power structures and was even produced in small batches. However, such information is not confirmed by anything - and contradicts reliably known information from other sources.

The reasons for the failure of the Penal project are obvious. First of all, the prospects of this development were negatively affected by its proactive nature. None of the departments ordered the development of such weapons - because they did not need them. According to the test results, interest in this product did not appear.

The Penal project offered an original solution to the problem of the grenade throwing range, but the need for such a solution is questionable. It is difficult to imagine a situation in which a fighter will need the most lightweight grenade launcher capable of sending a single grenade to 200-300 m without special requirements for hitting accuracy. In real situations, it is possible to get by with hand grenades and various grenade launchers with different characteristics.

Thus, the main result of the Pencil project should be considered a test of the viability of the original idea. It was found that the technical tasks set can be solved, but their result is of low practical value. As a result, the experimental grenade launcher did not reach the series and did not enter service. But he left an interesting mark in stories domestic grenade launchers.
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  1. +15
    April 24 2021 04: 52
    This is how long and persistently the domestic weaponry thought was moving through the pencil cases and "grenade shovels" to new heights of design excellence. And at the same time, but in a completely different place somewhere in the jungle, one could occasionally hear strange "gurgling" sounds preceding distant explosions.
    1. +2
      April 24 2021 11: 18
      A very specific thing especially for Vietnam.
  2. +2
    April 24 2021 05: 17
    This type of ammunition was not invented by Teles! This "type of grenade launcher" was used by the Austrians back in WW1!
    1. +1
      April 24 2021 20: 27
      The only thing these two devices have in common is that they are a "portable grenade launcher". Everything. More than one position, they do not intersect.
      But from what Telesh was inspired in reality, it was from German over-caliber grenades, 39 years old and later, for a signal pistol. Moreover, he was inspired, not cheated. For structurally, in general, everything is different, and there are enough fundamental differences - both a stepped chamber with high / low pressure (I did not dig much, but it seems that he was the first to come up with it), and an entirely flying ammunition (I will assume that again the first in the world really working).
      1. -1
        April 25 2021 00: 20
        Alas! In your "writing" there are so many "blunders" that I have no desire to answer you! Learn the "materiel" (!) ... then you have a chance to understand what these "bloopers" are!
        1. 0
          April 26 2021 17: 18
          Oh, thanks for the kind advice! I've been teaching for twenty years, and I won't learn everything, so I especially appreciate the discussion with knowledgeable people!
          The only thing I didn’t understand, if you don’t have the desire to answer, why did you even dash off so many words? I knew a bunch of trolls who cleverly moved off the topic with such a classic maneuver, but of course I'm not talking about you, God forbid!
          1. 0
            April 28 2021 00: 25
            Quote: Passing by
            I've been teaching for twenty years, and I won't learn everything,

            Well, well ... then it’s not yours to learn anything ...
            Quote: Passing by
            I knew a bunch of trolls

            I can assume that you are one of them ...
  3. +6
    April 24 2021 06: 51
    Yes, the beginning is more important here: the grenade launcher required an assault rifle, yes. But almost everyone who might have a grenade had a submachine gun.
    1. Eug
      +3
      April 24 2021 07: 04
      Unless it's sabotage. An interesting thing - it looks like a simple thermos ...
      1. +2
        April 24 2021 11: 11
        I think that for saboteurs it can be done at a higher price. And it's done for sure. And here the whole joke is in the mass scale.
        1. +3
          April 24 2021 14: 20
          The German pistol grenade launcher Kampfpistole has been familiar with it since 41. What's wrong?
          Already here on the site has been discussed.
          https://topwar.ru/148582-nemeckij-pistolet-granatomet-kampfpistole.html
      2. 0
        April 24 2021 20: 14
        Quote: Eug
        Unless it's sabotage. An interesting thing - it looks like a simple thermos ...

        Well, the saboteurs are armed with machine guns, why would they?
    2. 0
      April 24 2021 19: 08
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      ... But almost everyone who might have a grenade had a submachine gun.
      ak and rgd 5
      This is what appeared in Transnistria ...
      Shoots with blanks, one might say "a product for an amateur"
      1. +2
        April 24 2021 20: 33
        That product itself is good. But you need to carry blank cartridges with you, load them on time, and so on. It will work only on exercises.


        In order not to dull in the heat of the battle, you need either grenades launched by a live cartridge, or a separate barrel for grenades.


        Europeans initially opted for a through-hole barrel grenade. We chose a grenade launcher with a flying away sleeve. The Americans are a classic unitary cartridge and breech-loading grenade launcher. Subsequently, the Americans imposed their decision on the Europeans.
        1. 0
          April 24 2021 22: 04
          Quote: Sancho_SP
          That product itself is good. But you need to carry blank cartridges with you, load them on time, and so on. It will work only on exercises.

          recourse The article says that it is disposable. What weight is not specified. I think it is still more profitable for pocket artillery to wear VOGs in a bandolier, less weight.
          1. 0
            April 24 2021 23: 26
            And how to run that FOG then?
            1. 0
              April 25 2021 04: 19
              Quote: Sancho_SP
              And how to run that FOG then?

              Which one? Which grenade is in the cartridge belt for the GP25 or in a disposable tube?
              The article states that the "Pencil case" is disposable and is equipped at the factory.
              How to use is indicated in the article:
              Before the shot, it was necessary to remove it and remove the ring with the check. After that, the product was ready to fire. The "pencil case" was required to be taken away from oneself in order not to get under the influence of powder gases or flying out elements. With the help of an eye and a scale, the shooters had to aim at the target, after which it was possible to press the trigger.
      2. 0
        April 30 2021 18: 26
        What is the algorithm for using? Unbending your mustache and shooting blank? So what? Farther than a hand throw? What about accuracy? Doesn't it detonate at the moment of shooting? How long does it take to put on pribluda? Questions, questions. As cadets, during field trips, we still didn’t give a shit when the officers left for their wives in the evening. But this is all a collective farm and handicraft. There is a great chance to kill your own.
  4. +2
    April 24 2021 07: 03
    It is not entirely clear how it was planned to shoot - if from an outstretched hand, then forgive your eyes, if from the shoulder - with such dimensions there will be an accuracy of the level "towards the enemy"
    1. +2
      April 24 2021 11: 12
      With my hand out to the side, I suspect. There is no accuracy here.
  5. +2
    April 24 2021 07: 24
    I once read about the project of a disposable grenade launcher, not for automatic carbines, but for relatively light and small submachine guns. The grenade launcher is attached to the submachine gun just before the shot, and after it is automatically thrown forward. This allows you not to increase the weight of the sub-machine gun. The caliber of the grenade launcher is 60 mm. Offensive grenade. The firing range is 100 meters. Can be used as a hand grenade.
    1. +1
      April 24 2021 07: 55
      Isn't an over-caliber grenade easier then? Although a lot here depends on the power of the cartridge, you can't throw a lot with a pistol cartridge.
      1. +1
        April 24 2021 08: 16
        All NATO 60-70 rifles provided for the use of such mecar or telgren grenades. For this, the front sight was taken back from the trunk cut
        1. +1
          April 24 2021 10: 54
          Rifle grenades have not been used in Russia?
          1. +1
            April 24 2021 11: 15
            In my opinion, only mortars on rifles. But there was an ordinary hand grenade. And the bourgeoisie has a special one, put on directly on the rifle, but without additional spare parts.
            1. +1
              April 24 2021 11: 35
              Quote: Sancho_SP
              In my opinion, only mortars on rifles. But there was an ordinary hand grenade.

              It was just for the Dyakonov Grenade Launcher that there were special grenades - even cumulative ones.
          2. +3
            April 24 2021 12: 14
            There is no way to attach a grenade to the old-mode Kalash 47 / M / 74 / 74M, since the front sight is too close to the muzzle, but on new ones where it was moved further away, it is theoretically possible, but you need to be able to close the gas outlet tube before firing so that the pressure in the barrel pushes only a grenade (NATO rifles had a special tap for this). But there is no particular sense in all this. Various cumulative grenades are weak in modern armor, AT grenade launchers are common and much more effective. And OF-grenades lose to grenade launchers and AGS-am, and there are quite enough hand-held grenades.
            1. +3
              April 24 2021 13: 48
              The Telgren grenade from FN does not require the 1.5kg GP-25 to be carried on the machine. It is launched by shooting a live cartridge. Recoil energy 50-70 J. Accuracy 2mx2m square at a distance of 100m. Reduced damage radius - 10m. In vain an abandoned topic.
              1. +2
                April 24 2021 14: 44
                However, NATO switched lead grenades to the grenade launcher. So there are reasons.
                1. +2
                  April 24 2021 14: 54
                  The same as the adoption of the M-16 into service.
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            3. +2
              April 24 2021 14: 16
              Okay, but this applies to old pomegranates. For example, "Energa" and "Super-energy" were launched with a special cartridge without a projectile and with a starting charge of 2,55 grams. But the newer Mecar or Fn fires conventional ammunition. Generally speaking, the shotgun grenade launcher also has its advantages over the hand grenade, grenade launcher, and even over the grenade launcher. Although use should be limited to anti-personal use
            4. +1
              April 24 2021 16: 37
              Quote: CouchExpert
              There is no way to attach a grenade to the old-mode Kalash 47 / M / 74 / 74M since the front sight is too close to the muzzle.

              Yugoslavian clone of AK Zastava m70, only there must be a special attachment.
              1. +1
                April 24 2021 16: 55

                From the first I agree, but from the rest? And then the question was:
                Quote: Decimalegio
                В of Russia rifle grenades were not used?
                1. 0
                  April 24 2021 18: 53
                  In the picture you have given, you cannot shoot rifle grenades only from the lower shorty, all the others have a special sight (it is folded on a gas tube), and the nozzle, as I understand it, is screwed in instead of a compensator. hi
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                3. +3
                  April 24 2021 19: 34
                  Yes, I asked for rifle grenades in Russia. I knew the Zastava rifle, don't forget the Hungarian amp 69 rifle with a stock and a resting hand. I often saw Yugoslavian RB 100 grenade launchers for RGD-5 grenades. Was something similar used in Russia?
                  1. 0
                    April 24 2021 22: 54
                    Since the Second World War, in my opinion, we have not had rifle grenades.
          3. 0
            April 25 2021 05: 53
            Quote: Decimalegio
            Rifle grenades have not been used in Russia?

            Well, in WWI, Rdultovsky's ramrod grenade, for example ...
        2. +1
          April 24 2021 19: 16
          Quote: Zufei
          All NATO 60-70 rifles provided for the use of such grenades
          DPRK army
          They are far from the DPRK army ...
          soldier
      2. +1
        April 25 2021 02: 25
        It reminded me of rifle grenades from the Second World War.
  6. +3
    April 24 2021 07: 53
    The project was uninteresting for a simple reason. The only place where it could be used is for sabotage. Fired at the enemy camp at night. I threw away the tubes so that the excess weight would not interfere with running. And go.
    1. +2
      April 24 2021 09: 48
      Quote: garri-lin
      The project was uninteresting for a simple reason. The only place where it could be used is for sabotage. Fired at the enemy camp at night. I threw away the tubes so that the excess weight would not interfere with running. And go.

      How many times can you shoot such weapons at the camp.
      so scare off, no more
      1. +1
        April 24 2021 10: 44
        Well, bring the rustle, while the skorokhvaty sliders work out quite enough.
    2. +1
      April 24 2021 11: 16
      Yes, here somehow it would be more convenient to fly. You can at least get into something and even damage.

      And the size of that fly is like that of 4-5 such thermos flasks. Longer, perhaps.
      1. +1
        April 24 2021 16: 06
        For harassing and distracting fire, multiple explosions are better than one. On the other side of the VOG and from the barrel holder, you can throw it.
    3. 0
      7 October 2022 19: 24
      If he had a check release and "ears" with holes on the body, it would be an interesting item for the DRG and snipers - tie it to a tree, a stretch from the check, and firing a grenade "in that direction" will force the enemy to turn around in a chain and check the section of the forest from where arrived, wasting time.
  7. +1
    April 24 2021 11: 01
    Non-lethal "Penal" could be of interest to various structures from the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the KGB

    Rather, the FSIN, not the Ministry of Internal Affairs / KGB. But they have such "toys" and so on more than. A grenade launcher is really enough for motorized riflemen.
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  9. +2
    April 26 2021 00: 42
    And we had a STANDARD grenade launcher on a regular M-16.
    A special nozzle was put on the barrel in front of the flame arrester.
    The people called the "rose". She was holding a grenade
    with a plastic body, similar to a mortar mine.
    It was necessary to shoot with a blank cartridge. Powder gases push
    grenade.
    The main thing was not to confuse and not shoot her in the ass with a real bullet! belay
    Then "little fluffy animal". laughing

    The system is mura, in my opinion. The strongest return, no precision.
    You carry these grenades on yourself - God does not allow them to slip and fall on them! sad
  10. 0
    April 26 2021 22: 43
    It seems to me that the problem of the "Pencil" is not that such a weapon is not needed, but that it is necessary to shoot from it the devil, which means that it will go somewhere, with homing by the will of Allah. It is much easier to give a soldier a grenade launcher, which is only twice as heavy (by 800g), while it has normal sights and ergonomics. Or, if he does not use a machine gun, issue a RShG based on an RPG-26. Yes, the weight is more - 4 kg, but the effect is much better.
  11. 0
    1 May 2021 10: 45
    How to shoot from it so as not to hit yourself, crap flying out from behind?
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