At the "Severnaya Verf" named the timing of the transfer of the corvette "Zealous" project 20380 to the Navy

Transfer to the Naval fleet corvette "Zealous" project 20380, built at the "Severnaya Verf", will be held until the end of 2021. This was stated by the general director of the enterprise Igor Orlov.

Speaking at the launching ceremony of the Kapitan Geller trawler on March 30, 2021, Orlov said that the new Project 20380 corvette Zetivy, built at the enterprise, will be handed over to the Russian fleet by the end of this year. The exact dates for the transfer of the ship to the customer were not named.

Zealous is the fifth corvette of Project 20380 built at Severnaya Verf. It differs from the previous corvettes of this project mainly by the installation of a new multifunctional radar complex "Zaslon" with the placement of fixed antennas in a tower-like superstructure, similar to the corvettes of the 20385 project.

Laid down on February 20, 2015, on October 4, 2017, the formation of the hull was completed, on March 21, 2018, the loading of engines and gearboxes into the forward engine room was completed. Launched from the boathouse on December 25, 2019, launched on March 12, 2020.

Corvettes of project 20380 are designed for operations in the near sea zone of the state, to combat surface ships and submarines of the enemy; for artillery support of naval landing during naval landing operations by launching missile and artillery attacks on ships and vessels at sea and bases; to patrol the area of ​​responsibility with a view to blocking.

Displacement standard 1800 tons, total 2220 tons. The length is the largest 104,5 meters, width 13 meters, maximum draft 7,95 meters. Maximum speed 27 knots. Cruising range up to 4000 miles.

The main armament is the Uran 2X4 anti-ship missile system, and the Caliber or Onyx from the eighth ship. Also in service with the Redut air defense system, the Pak-NK anti-submarine system, the A-100 190-mm gun mount, two 14,5 mm machine-gun mounts and two DP-64 anti-sabotage grenade launchers. There is a hangar for the Ka-27 helicopter.

As the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy Nikolai Evmenov said earlier, after the completion afloat, "Zealous" will go to serve in the Black Sea Fleet, although earlier the place of service of the corvette was called the Baltic.

Comments

[rocket757]

It differs from the previous corvettes of this project mainly by the installation on the new multifunctional radar complex "Zaslon" with the placement of fixed antennas in a tower-like superstructure, similar to the corvettes of the 20385 project.

Those. modernization during production.
Well, how is he "strong" or is something wrong again?

[jonht]

If everything is correct in the article, then from 8 they will replace uranium with hummingbirds. And for me this is correct, they write a lot about the screen and different things, but there is a hope that the screen will be brought to mind.

[g1v2]

This is not a wunderwaffle. At the Black Sea Fleet, a couple of old 1135s need to be replaced. Corvettes 20380 in any variant will be stronger than the old frigates 1135. And in general, it is necessary to change the MPC again. For the good for the Black Sea Fleet, six 2038x corvettes and 3 frigates 22350 must be built. Well, the MRK is actively being built - most likely there will be 6 Buyan-m and Karakurt. They are already either in the ranks or under construction. Well, then it is possible to build 6 more corvettes and MRK, and even XNUMX DEPLs would not hurt to drive them less often for "repair". Again, then it will be possible to keep part of the forces permanently in Tartus and Sudan.

[Overlock]

Quote: g1v2

At the Black Sea Fleet, a couple of old 1135s need to be replaced. Corvettes 20380 in any variant will be stronger than the old frigates 1135. And in general, it is necessary to change the MPC again. For the good for the Black Sea Fleet, six 2038x corvettes and 3 frigates 22350 must be built. Well, MRKs are actively being built - most likely there will be 6 Buyan-m and Karakurt. They are already either in the ranks or under construction. Well, then you can build more pieces of 6 corvettes and an MRK, and even six more deplets would not hurt

There are a lot of plans! How we overclocked!

[g1v2]

What is the problem? All these projects have already been mastered. Shipyards will be happy to receive a guaranteed workload for 10 years. Most of this is either being built or contracted and will be built. Well, except for the last sentence - these are my wishlist. But they are also quite real.

[Volder]

It is necessary to expand and deepen the river beds so that part of the orders for the construction of frigates 22350 will be given to the Zelenodolsk shipyard. Then 22350 will be baked like cakes. The propulsion gas turbine for the frigate should begin to produce 2 pieces. at least a year. And then - we will live, our fleet will really be revived.

[bayard]

The frigate will not pass along the rivers, no matter how you deepen the bottom. Moreover, the Kerch "Zaliv" was given to Zelenodol residents, and it is possible to build there - there are enough slipways, enough hands.
There, after all, at one time and 1135 were built ...

[bk316]

The frigate will not pass along the rivers, no matter how you deepen the bottom.

It will not work. There are locks of 4-4.3 meters, and 22350 draft is 4,5. Of course, there are all sorts of clever ways, but they will not pass already in size.

[next322]

give Zelenodolsk shipyard ..... and why Zelenodolsk ????? he can barely cope with simple brawlers and karakurt ... There is AMBER, ADMIRALTY SHIPYARDS, the GULF are real factories that know how to build large ships

[bk316]

What's the problem?

Money. There are no technical problems. Admiralty 6 Warsaw women will do in 3 years, just pay.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: rocket757

It differs from the previous corvettes of this project mainly by the installation on the new multifunctional radar complex "Zaslon" with the placement of fixed antennas in a tower-like superstructure, similar to the corvettes of the 20385 project.

Those. modernization during production.
Well, how is he "strong" or is something wrong again?

So ... like so ... AK-assault rifle attached a buttstock with 6 positions ..... MODERNIZED ..... And you can break a wooden firebox and a firebox ...... the enemy's head ..... ..

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: rocket757

Well, how, he is "strong" ...

See for yourself:

In the video shown at the Salon, the mast is installed on a project 20382 corvette. The complex is capable of detecting air targets with RCS = 1 sq. m at a distance of up to 75 km and low-flying at 0,9-0,95 range of the radio horizon. The number of determined target coordinates is 3. The maximum detection range of emitted electronic systems is up to 300 km, the number of tracked targets is more than 100. This system is capable of creating active interference in an area of ​​up to 360 degrees. in the frequency range X and Ku.

Source: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/zaslon-mrlk/ MTC "BASTION" AVKarpenko

[rocket757]

If you look closely, there are improvements, but ... not a hero in the fight against a serious opponent.
Let it be for now.

[Niko]

Quote: rocket757

It differs from the previous corvettes of this project mainly by the installation on the new multifunctional radar complex "Zaslon" with the placement of fixed antennas in a tower-like superstructure, similar to the corvettes of the 20385 project.

Those. modernization during production.
Well, how is he "strong" or is something wrong again?

In the section "opinion" there was an article last week, it seems just about 20380 "the possibility of improving the air defense of corvettes" (if I'm not mistaken) you can get an idea of ​​the ship

[rocket757]

Quote: Niko

In the section "opinion" there was an article last week, it seems just about 20380 "the possibility of improving the air defense of corvettes" (if I'm not mistaken) you can get an idea of ​​the ship

It is understandable that it is necessary to do better.
What prevents?
No more "advanced" systems for equipping or funding is sufficient.
Again refer to the "giraffe" who knows best?

[vvvjak]

Quote: rocket757

Or is something wrong again?

Not an expert, but "read a lot of sea battles" on VO.
So:
According to some: no PLO ability, no GAS, no torpedo tubes (and even if there were normal torpedoes, there are absolutely no normal torpedoes)
Another opinion: the expensive and non-working "Zaslon" is not needed, it is necessary cheaply and in large quantities, and from this it follows that the "Redoubt" is also redundant, but there is no MD air defense.
Third: without "stealth" technologies, this is a potential "drowned man"
Fourth: a helicopter is not needed because will not be able to board the ship because of the "turbulence" - low displacement, for the same reason it is impossible to use URO.
Fifth: the helicopter is very necessary (preferably three). He must conduct reconnaissance, give CU, shoot anti-ship missiles, search for submarines (and all at the same time). But the Russian Federation does not have such helicopters.
Sixth: why is transferring money to these "pelvis", it is urgent to build an MPA
Well, the "classics of the genre": "Uranus" is the last century, "Zircons" - our everything.
As they say, you choose the taste, what flaws suit you.

[rocket757]

I am not happy with any shortcomings, that's why I asked.
Anyway, someone from the responsible chooses what is needed or what we can ... this is really a mystery.

[vvvjak]

Quote: rocket757

I'm not happy with any flaws

I'm not happy either. I just wanted to show that if you remove all the "flaws" of the corvette, the result will be something like "Zumwalt". Or, as programmers say, if you put all the foolproof protections in the program, then only d ,,,,, will work with it.

[rocket757]

"iron" it was an interesting experiment ... everything is in the "topic", even the shortcomings ... I suppose they will not repeat what they found ... however, there is an opportunity to make new ones. This is the way of the experimenters.
What they do here is a well-trodden path, by others ... there should be much less surprises.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: rocket757

Anyway, someone from the responsible chooses what is needed or what we can ...

there is in one of the monologues of the famous M. Zhvanetsky, such a phrase, - "...medications in the hospital, prescribe those that are, or those that are treated ? and how do they differ ? "... ... this is just very close to 20380, which is used by the fleet, despite all its jambs.

[rocket757]

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

despite all its jambs.

The question is, do we have something much better, it is READY for operation and is there even more jambs in it than in the one we are criticizing?
I'm not in the subject, so I ask questions ...

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: rocket757

The question is, do we have something much better

not yet (in metal), but if you don't create itthen it will not appear (!).

Quote: rocket757

it is READY for use

not yet. But the project itself is SUCH (!)... And when clarifying the requirements for those tasks, he can become much better than 20380, for the same or less price (!).

Quote: rocket757

..and is there even more jambs in it than in the one we criticize?

that is unlikely.
main disadvantages of 20380: 1) insufficient speed!, 2) incompetent (but dear) air defense complex (redundant for the OVR corvette)!, 3) lack of PLUR !. And this despitethat the cost of building a corvette of this project is already "stepped over" the cost 11356 R / M ?!.
Zelenodolsk PKB, in its (Proposed Project 11664), immediately offered a ship from 2 to 8 UKSK (on a platform similar to the existing "Cheetah" pr. 11661). This initially solves problem No. 3 !!! Questions problems № 1, can be solved through the earliest targeted financing of the program for creating promising diesel engines of the D-500 family (8000 hp each) that Kolomna offers, but so far they seem to be deaf to them?! .... similar to DDA-12000, the layout of the power plant from "quadruples five hundredth", will solve the lack of speed!.
But problem № 2, can be solved, even at the stage of those requirements for the project, by replacing the expensive Redut air defense system (on a small VI corvette, where it is simply not possible to place a heavy antenna "Polyment") on the industrially mastered air defense system "Shtil-1". Which is sufficient for the BMZ / OVR corvette, and much cheaper !!.
Thus, all other things being equal, let's say the same Zarya-2 state joint stock company, and the same bugas, replacing redundant masts (integrated masts, Zaslonov, etc.) with radars sufficient for a corvette of the "Positive" or "Monolith" type (or "Monument"), you get a maximum of the same ship, if not less cost (!). Thanks to almost all industrial systems already mastered (such as named above RLK, GAK, SAM "Shtil-1"). The only thing that will require at first infusion of funds (careful and sufficient funding), this is the development of promising engines of the D-500 family, for a new (more powerful GEM) !... But if you do not make these adjustments now, then tomorrow, the fleet will continue to receive expensive and non-functional 20380!

[rocket757]

Those. it is necessary to do that, syo, the third tenth. You need a lot of resources and an intensive program for the development of some branches of production in order to ensure a real movement forward towards the assigned goals!
In general, the same thing that should have been done for a long time!
Oh, yes, it is necessary to provide high-quality training of scientific, industrial and military personnel, without this, too, and nowhere.
In general, you can say a lot, but you need real WORKS!

[Dart2027]

Quote: vvvjak

choose the taste which flaws suit you

In my opinion, the disadvantage is Uranus instead of Caliber.

[Volder]

Quote: Dart2027

In my opinion, the disadvantage is Uranus instead of Caliber.

The characteristics of "Uranus" are not inferior to their foreign counterparts.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Volder

The characteristics of "Uranus" are not inferior

This is for now. Now all new missiles are designed for the Caliber PU. After some time, the current rockets of Uranus will become obsolete and? Redo half a ship?

[Galleon]

The photo is not enough for the article. Here, I found a couple of authentic ones.

[alexmach]

but these are 2 different ships

[Galleon]

Why? One - "Zealous". The top photo is last November, the bottom one is this spring. Checked according to the data that it was "Zealous", and not his sister ship.

[alexmach]

So actually those notorious Integrated radar towers in the photo are different. On the first, the same "Zaslon" - an unprepossessing pyramid, on the second tower from 20380 early projects - noticeably smaller and more intricate in shape.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: alexmach

So actually those notorious Integrated radar towers in the photo are different. On the first, the same "Zaslon" - an unprepossessing pyramid, on the second tower from 20380 early projects - noticeably smaller and more intricate in shape.

absolutely exactly noticed. Different masts. !!

[lopuhan2006]

Ideally, the Bykovs should have taken the place of Ladny. This patrolman should go in the PLO version, and not poke into it, which does not hit. Against a la pirates, a motorboat with a cannon is enough for the eyes, and sculpting a hangar for an armored personnel carrier, which is no longer suitable in fresh weather, is such a use. And the apotheosis of the strategy genius is non-existent containers with Calibers.

[svp67]

On March 21, 2018, the loading of engines and gearboxes into the forward engine room was completed.

Where are the motors and gearboxes manufactured?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: svp67

Where are the motors and gearboxes manufactured?

The installation includes 2 diesel units DDA12, one in the bow of the ship, the other in the stern. Each diesel unit contains 000 diesel engines 10D49 OAO "Kolomensky Zavod". The ship also uses four 630 kW diesel generators.

[svp67]

Thanks. And whose gearboxes?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: svp67

whose gearboxes?

Most likely "Star".

[alexmach]

In the same place as all the previous ones. Kolomna and Zvezda-Reducer

[Castro Ruiz]

Zachem on Baltic.
A pochemu neostanet v TOF?
There nekhvataet korabley.

[Denis Rumyanny]

The Chinese cover the Pacific Fleet, in exchange for timber, and in general why do we need the Pacific Fleet

[TermNachTer]

In general, it is logical. The Black Sea is now a much hotter point for Russia than the Baltic.