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Closing straits and canals in modern warfare: on the effectiveness of such a strategy

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On March 23, 2021, in the southern part of the Suez Canal, a 400-meter container ship Ever Given, flying the flag of Panama and owned by a Japanese company, ran aground. Because of this accident, the movement of ships in both directions was completely blocked. In fact, only one container ship managed to block the strategically important Suez Canal, which plays a huge role in world maritime traffic.


How the Suez Canal was blocked


Recall that the Suez Canal, built back in 1869, was completely blocked for navigation only twice in its one and a half century history... In 1956, the then President of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser, decided to nationalize the Suez Canal, previously effectively under British control. In response to Nasser's actions, British, French and Israeli forces began fighting. The Egyptian side sank 47 ships, completely blocking traffic along the canal. The message resumed in 1957.

Even more impressive, however, was the closure of the Suez Canal in 1967-1975. In the midst of the Arab-Israeli wars, the movement of ships along the Suez Canal became impossible due to the mining of the canal. Only by 1975, by the US Navy, as well as by the USSR Navy, the Suez Canal and the approaches to it were cleared of mines. The long-term closure of the canal led to colossal economic damage to Egypt, but the world economy was even more significantly affected by the paralysis of one of the most important maritime transport arteries.

The two main goals of closing canals and straits in modern warfare


If we turn to military history, we will see that blockades and closings of straits and canals were used quite often before. For example, in 1915-1917. Russian warships blocked the Bosphorus, which turned out to be a rather effective measure: as Rear Admiral Alexander Bubnov recalled, due to a competent blockade and mining of approaches to the strait, not a single enemy ship appeared in the Black Sea. Russia thus protected the Black Sea coast from possible attacks from the enemy.

During World War II, Japan planned to bomb the locks of the Panama Canal, but this plan was never implemented due to the imminent defeat of the imperial army and fleet.

In modern wars, the closure of canals and straits can serve two main purposes. The first goal is to solve specific military tasks, for example, to prevent the passage through the channels or straits of the enemy's navy, or transports with cargoes of food, weapons, equipment for the enemy army. Also, in a number of cases, canals and straits become natural defense lines, as happened with the Suez Canal during the Arab-Israeli wars.

The second goal is to inflict maximum economic damage on the conflict side. When the Suez Canal was controlled by the British, the Egyptian side, by blocking it, caused damage to British economic interests, but a decade later the same situation was repeated in relation to Egypt: it was the Egyptian economy that suffered from the closure of the canal. If the same Suez Canal is closed today, the world economy will lose 5% of world tanker traffic and 2% of world oil consumption: not so little as it might initially seem. Bloomberg reports a daily loss of $ 9,6 billion from the closure of the Suez Canal. The total losses, along with the accompanying ones, due to the blockage of the canal by a container ship, were estimated at no less than $ 200 billion. That is, one miscalculation can be comparable in terms of damage to a military operation.

Closing straits and canals in modern warfare: on the effectiveness of such a strategy


It is precisely the goal of economic influence on opponents that Iran pursues when it threatens to block the Strait of Hormuz. According to analysts, to block the Strait of Hormuz, one does not even need to resort to any large-scale actions involving destroyers or aviation, it is enough just to sink a few large tankers and the shipping will be stopped. It is not for nothing that the head of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), General Mohammad Ali Jafari, threatened that either everyone or no one would use the Strait of Hormuz.

Unlike the Suez Canal, up to 40% of the world's oil supply passes through the Strait of Hormuz, and its closure would have catastrophic consequences for the world economy. At the same time, the United States and its allies will not be able to unblock the strait, if only because of the obstruction from Iran. By the way, Iran does not need any serious military forces to disrupt shipping in the strait - tankers and merchant ships, as noted by the American military expert Rockford Weitz, are easily disabled by the cheapest anti-ship missiles fired from light boats.

Of no less importance for the world economy are the Singapore and Malacca straits, through which the sea communication of East and Southeast Asia with Europe and Africa is carried out. Now they, of course, are in the sphere of a possible confrontation of the interests of the United States / Great Britain and China, while in the event of a military conflict, China will inevitably turn its attention to the straits and try to establish control over them.

The strategy of closing straits and channels can be an effective means of influencing


Thus, we can conclude that, despite the growing skepticism of some analysts regarding the strategic importance of straits and canals, they still play a key role in maritime traffic. Their importance especially increases during the period of military operations. So, to supply the Syrian grouping of the Russian army, for example, it is possible, first of all, by sea - either through the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, or by a longer and more difficult route - through Gibraltar (for example, from the Northern Fleet).

Admiral Vladimir Komoedov believes that the sea route for the delivery of ammunition and military equipment remains the most effective. Close now Turkey the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits for Russian ships - and Russia's military presence in Syria will be under threat. It is expensive and in some cases impossible to supply the grouping by air. If Russia designated its military presence in Sudan or Yemen, Eritrea or Mozambique, then the military-political importance of the Suez Canal for our country would also sharply increase.

Naturally, blocking canals or straits against this background, even now, in the XNUMXst century, remains one of the most important military methods of preventing the transfer of troops, their supply and rotation. Moreover, blocking a strait or channel is not so difficult, as practice has shown. The countries that own straits and canals have the most ambitious capabilities, but in some cases, foreign armed forces can also make communication through the artery impossible by mining the canal or strait by ships and aircraft.
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  1. ccsr
    ccsr 31 March 2021 13: 15
    -9
    Naturally, blocking canals or straits against this background, even now, in the XNUMXst century, remains one of the most important military methods of preventing the transfer of troops, their supply and rotation.

    It sounds somewhat strange, as if one of the superpowers will do this before hitting each other. Well, the Papuans can be brought to their knees by destroying their capitals with the help of strategic aviation, so this "most important method" is somehow irrelevant to us. Although people like Timokhin and Klimov will foaming at the mouth to prove that we cannot live without it in the 21st century.

    The countries that own straits and canals have the most ambitious capabilities, but in some cases, foreign armed forces can also make communication through the artery impossible by mining the canal or strait by ships and aircraft.

    As recent events have shown, it is easier for a frostbitten captain to find or bribe him in order to periodically block such waterways without any armed forces.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 31 March 2021 14: 30
      +1
      Quote: ccsr
      It sounds somewhat strange, as if one of the superpowers will do this before hitting each other. Well, the Papuans can be brought to their knees by destroying their capitals with the help of strategic aviation, so this "most important method" is somehow irrelevant to us
      Understand that this is a way that can turn you against us, what's stopping you?
      Close now Turkey the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits for Russian ships - and Russia's military presence in Syria will be under threat. ... .... If Russia designated its military presence in Sudan or Yemen, Eritrea or Mozambique, then the military-political importance of the Suez Canal for our country would also sharply increase.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 31 March 2021 19: 27
        -1
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Understand that this is a way that can turn you against us, what's stopping you?

        You seem so naive, and believe that I discovered America? Any military professional knows this anyway, it's just that you haven't grown up to that.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U April 1 2021 03: 18
          0
          Quote: ccsr
          You seem so naive, and believe that I discovered America?

          You did not open and close, you just blurted out nonsense:
          Quote: ccsr
          Although people like Timokhin and Klimov will foaming at the mouth to prove that we cannot live without it in the 21st century.

          failing to understand that such blockades are more threatening to our Armed Forces and the Navy
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Close now Turkey the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits for Russian ships - and Russia's military presence in Syria will be under threat. ... .... If Russia designated its military presence in Sudan or Yemen, Eritrea or Mozambique, then the military-political importance of the Suez Canal for our country would also sharply increase


          Quote: ccsr
          Any military professional knows this anyway, it's just that you haven't grown up to that.
          What kind of "pro" you are can be seen a mile away.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr April 1 2021 11: 44
            -1
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            failing to understand that such blockades are more threatening to our Armed Forces and the Navy

            And what do they threaten us with in the event of a war with America, share, you are our dreamer on military topics?
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U April 1 2021 11: 56
              -1
              Quote: ccsr
              And what do they threaten us with in the event of a war with America, share, you are our dreamer on military topics?
              You cannot master a simple phrase.
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Close now Turkey the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits for Russian ships - and Russia's military presence in Syria will be under threat
              And as usual, weave whatever is horrible.
              Quote: ccsr
              And what are we threatened with in the event of a war with America?
              1. ccsr
                ccsr April 1 2021 12: 43
                -2
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                You cannot master a simple phrase.

                Those. it was not possible to lie something believable, and this is obvious.
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Close now Turkey the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits for Russian ships - and Russia's military presence in Syria will be under threat

                Lies, because it will be possible to carry out supplies through the Mediterranean Sea and through Iran.
                By the way, on what basis Turkey in peacetime can block the strait for us - think of another nonsense for naive people.
                1. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A April 1 2021 18: 16
                  -1
                  Quote: ccsr

                  Lies, because it will be possible to carry out supplies through the Mediterranean Sea and through Iran.
                  By the way, on what basis Turkey in peacetime can block the strait for us - think of another nonsense for naive people.


                  Gathered through Iran?
                  And then how?
                  Iraq or Turkey?

                  Iran is not particularly friendly with us even for the last 30 years of its world isolation, and even more so now.
                  And Iraq will say what the Americans say ...

                  Turkey may not prohibit the peaceful, but introducing a conflict and a state of war with Libya. Syria (by anyone) - it already has the right. Just an article from the Montreux convention.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr April 1 2021 18: 45
                    -2
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Gathered through Iran?
                    And then how?
                    Iraq or Turkey?

                    Will Turkey also block the Persian Gulf for us? How is Iran currently supporting its military units in Syria?
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    And Iraq will say what the Americans say ...

                    The Americans do not control all areas there.
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Turkey may not prohibit peacefully,

                    This is where we need to start before fantasizing about what they can do to us, supposedly blocking the straits.
                    1. SovAr238A
                      SovAr238A April 1 2021 19: 02
                      -2
                      Quote: ccsr

                      Will Turkey also block the Persian Gulf for us? How is Iran currently supporting its military units in Syria?
                      The Americans do not control all areas there.


                      Do you have transport routes from the Caspian to the Strait of Hormuz?
                      You are going to load army cargo on river flat boats of the type that recently sunk near the Turkish banks of the "river-sea"
                      And then overload all this - and drive two thousand kilometers to Bandar Abbas along mountain roads?
                      And then overload everything again and again by sea. 3500 miles and 10 days of travel.
                      A cargo "boat" of the required tonnage eats from 10 to 40 tons of fuel oil per day. The rental price is from 30 thousand dollars per day.
                      And 100 thousand dollars for each passage through the Suez Canal.
                      I didn’t calculate the cost of the Caspian Sea and road transportation across Iran.
                      So think about how much money will be needed to transport at least dry rations for our contingent.
                      And once again - Iran is not our friend!
                      this is how Iran "provides" ... https://vz.ru/news/2021/3/12/1089189.html


                      Quote: ccsr

                      This is where we need to start before fantasizing about what they can do to us, supposedly blocking the straits.


                      By entering a war with Syria, they will ban ...
                      It doesn't cost them anything special for this. They are already at war with her.
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr April 1 2021 19: 14
                        -1
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        Do you have transport routes from the Caspian to the Strait of Hormuz?

                        They existed during the Great Patriotic War, so it is not difficult to restore if desired.
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        And once again - Iran is not our friend!

                        They offer us to conclude an agreement, the same as with China - you do not want to take this into account, as well as our sale of weapons to them?
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        It doesn't cost them anything special for this. They are already at war with her.

                        Well, what prevents us from organizing deliveries through the Mediterranean Sea?
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        And 100 thousand dollars for each passage through the Suez Canal.
                        I didn’t calculate the cost of the Caspian Sea and road transportation across Iran.
                        So think about how much money will be needed to transport at least dry rations for our contingent.

                        And to us that Turkey has already blocked the strait? Why are you fantasizing about something that is not in sight?
                        By the way, our transport planes fly to Syria via Turkey - you don't want to see that either?
                      2. SovAr238A
                        SovAr238A April 1 2021 19: 43
                        -2
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        Do you have transport routes from the Caspian to the Strait of Hormuz?

                        They existed during the Great Patriotic War, so it is not difficult to restore if desired.
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        And once again - Iran is not our friend!

                        They offer us to conclude an agreement, the same as with China - you do not want to take this into account, as well as our sale of weapons to them?
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        It doesn't cost them anything special for this. They are already at war with her.

                        Well, what prevents us from organizing deliveries through the Mediterranean Sea?
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        And 100 thousand dollars for each passage through the Suez Canal.
                        I didn’t calculate the cost of the Caspian Sea and road transportation across Iran.
                        So think about how much money will be needed to transport at least dry rations for our contingent.

                        And to us that Turkey has already blocked the strait? Why are you fantasizing about something that is not in sight?
                        By the way, our transport planes fly to Syria via Turkey - you don't want to see that either?



                        What are you going to restore in a sovereign Iran - which is not a friend at all?

                        And where do you come up with about some kind of contract?
                        China does not have a single military alliance agreement with any country in the world!
                        And hasn't had it for the last 50 years.
                        And it won't have for many more years.
                        There is only the possibility of a secret treaty with North Korea, roughly 50/50.

                        Iran also has no and is not planning any agreements, and even more so with the Russian Federation.

                        Where did you get such fantasies?


                        Deliveries via the Mediterranean?
                        And what about transports?
                        I'm not only talking about the Navy, I'm talking about the fleet that the Russian Federation can, for example, rent from the merchant fleet.
                        Where will they bunker?

                        And how often did our Air Force TA flew there, especially after the shooting down of the Su-24?
                      3. ccsr
                        ccsr April 1 2021 21: 41
                        0
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        What are you going to restore in a sovereign Iran - which is not a friend at all?

                        I think that we are simply obliged to sell air defense systems and other weapons to Iran - this is beneficial to us. And we do not need to restore anything there, well, if they ask to build a nuclear power plant, then why should they be denied.
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        And where do you come up with about some kind of contract?

                        You are just a backward person and don't follow China and Iran:
                        The agreement signed on March 25, 2021 implies cooperation between countries in twenty different areas, including in the field of economics, politics and culture, as well as in the field of military cooperation and the development of the defense industry.


                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        Iran also has no and is not planning any agreements, and even more so with the Russian Federation.

                        Educate yourself, since you are not at all in the subject:
                        After signing a strategic pact with China last week, Iran now intends to conclude a big deal with Russia. Both treaties with the two world powers are designed to neutralize the so-called policy of maximum pressure on the Islamic Republics..
                        ..... The Iranian Defense Minister suggested that Russia conclude a military alliance to defend against NATO.
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        Deliveries via the Mediterranean?
                        And what about transports?

                        And that the freight of ships has already been banned in the world?
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        And how often did our Air Force TA flew there, especially after the shooting down of the Su-24?

                        Yes, in fact, quite often now:
                        Flights in 2016 passed through the airspace of Iran and Iraq, so Saturday flight - this is the first flight of a Russian reconnaissance aircraft over a NATO member country. Previously, only military transport planes or aircraft with official delegations flew over Turkey.

                        According to the MilitaryRussia Internet project, Tu-214R aircraft are equipped with an MRK-411 multi-frequency radio complex, consisting of several radar stations with active phased antenna arrays of side and circular view, which provides information in both active and passive modes.


                        More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/01/27/rossiya-cherez-turciyu-perebrosila-v-siriyu-samolyot-kompleksnoy-razvedki
            2. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U April 2 2021 03: 13
              -1
              Quote: ccsr
              Lies, because it will be possible to carry out supplies through the Mediterranean Sea and through Iran.
              Stupidity is absurd, all sea passages except Suez are controlled by NATO countries, and Turkey is a NATO country. Close the straits of Turkey, Russia will only have to wipe itself off. And how Suez just block only a fool is still unclear. Even if the fool does not understand, Iran communicates with Syria through Suez.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr April 2 2021 12: 13
                0
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Close the straits of Turkey, Russia will only have to wipe

                On what basis will they be closed in peacetime, you are our homebrew dreamer?
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                And how Suez just block only a fool is still unclear.

                So we don’t have to send everything through Suez - it’s only like you can think of. And the fact that our aircraft carrier came to the Mediterranean is a discovery for you as always.
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Even if the fool does not understand, Iran communicates with Syria through Suez.

                And have many Iranian ships been blocked?
                1. Vladimir_2U
                  Vladimir_2U April 2 2021 15: 46
                  -1
                  Quote: ccsr
                  So we don’t have to send everything through Suez - it’s only like you can think of.
                  Your stupidity simply has no boundaries, you are not even able to master the map.
                  Quote: ccsr
                  And have many Iranian ships been blocked?
                  Naturally, idiots are an example of a container ship, not an example of blocking a channel at all.

                  Quote: ccsr
                  On what basis will they be closed in peacetime, you are our homebrew dreamer?
                  Fools still do not understand that NATO can score on "Peacetime".
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr April 2 2021 18: 15
                    0
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    Fools still do not understand that NATO can score on "Peacetime".

                    Do not wag the dreamer with the sirloin, but answer the question
                    Quote: ccsr
                    On what basis will they be closed in peacetime, you are our homebrew dreamer?

                    How many times has Turkey closed the strait after the Great Patriotic War?
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    Naturally, idiots are an example of a container ship, not an example of blocking a channel at all.

                    Again, the verbiage was lying - it was a technical accident, and not a deliberate NATO action.
                  2. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U April 3 2021 05: 52
                    -1
                    Quote: ccsr
                    Do not wag the dreamer with the sirloin, but answer the question

                    Here you are, a misunderstanding
                    Quote: ccsr
                    On what basis will they be closed in peacetime, you are our homebrew dreamer?
                    Yes, at least by the decision in Brussels or for their own reasons:
                    According to the Montreux Convention governing the status of the Bosphorus, Turkey has the right to block the movement of foreign warships only in two cases:
                    during the war (v. 20);
                    in case Turkey considers itself to be in imminent military danger (item 21)

                    How many times has the USSR been banned from competing under its own flag in sports competitions? And Russia is wiping itself out! Cut off the straits of Turkey, Russia will be lost!

                    Quote: ccsr
                    Again, the verbiage was lying - it was a technical accident, and not a deliberate NATO action.
                    Mental development does not allow you to understand that what can be done by accident is even easier to repeat on purpose.
                  3. ccsr
                    ccsr April 3 2021 18: 21
                    0
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    Yes, at least by the decision in Brussels or for their own reasons:

                    Enough to dodge - when it was, well, give an example, a pitiful verbiage.
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    How many times has the USSR been banned from performing under its flag in sports?

                    What does this have to do with the straits?
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    Mental development does not allow you to understand

                    Your development is in no way correlated with the concept of mental, so it's not up to you to judge.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 April 1 2021 12: 13
    +5
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Close now Turkey the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits for Russian ships - and Russia's military presence in Syria will be under threat.

    Vladimir, Turkey is also a very vulnerable country, block the Black Sea Fleet Zondulak in response, destroying the bridges of the Sultans and the Bosphorus Bridge, most of the industry will stop, as will most of the Turkish power plants ... and if you still manage to drown a large pelvis in the Canakkale region, then the collapse will be serious! The Turks are not fools, they are flogging the same clearing!
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A April 1 2021 18: 21
      -1
      Quote: Serg65
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Close now Turkey the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits for Russian ships - and Russia's military presence in Syria will be under threat.

      Vladimir, Turkey is also a very vulnerable country, block the Black Sea Fleet Zondulak in response, destroying the bridges of the Sultans and the Bosphorus Bridge, most of the industry will stop, as will most of the Turkish power plants ... and if you still manage to drown a large pelvis in the Canakkale region, then the collapse will be serious! The Turks are not fools, they are flogging the same clearing!


      What's Zondulak?
      A town with a population of 100 thousand?

      The entire Black Sea Fleet is smaller than the Black Sea part of the Turkish fleet.
      They are going to destroy the bridges - have you ever been to Istanbul yourself?
      There are tunnels there, and several hundred (and probably under a thousand) different ferries, even though armies and tank brigades are being thrown from coast to coast. And everywhere there are excellent concrete access roads to ferry crossings (of which there are dozens).

      We are weaker than Turkey in this region. Perceptibly weaker.
      You just need to realize it.
      And a battle cap and a shout of "hurray" will not help.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 April 2 2021 09: 57
        +3
        Quote: SovAr238A
        What's Zondulak?

        Yes, I already understood that you are nothing ..
        Quote: SovAr238A
        The entire Black Sea Fleet is smaller than the Black Sea part of the Turkish fleet.

        And what is the "Black Sea part of the Turkish fleet"? And where is this piece based?
        Quote: SovAr238A
        Bridges are about to destroy
        There are tunnels, crossings

        There are two tunnels and it won't be difficult to block them.
        Quote: SovAr238A
        several hundred (and probably under a thousand) different ferries

        Do not restrain yourself, speak at once ... several million!
        Quote: SovAr238A
        Have you ever been to Istanbul yourself?

        At least once.
        Quote: SovAr238A
        We are weaker than Turkey in this region

        Who are you?
        Quote: SovAr238A
        You just need to realize it.

        Realized? The flag is in your hands!
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 2 2021 03: 14
      -1
      Quote: Serg65
      Vladimir, Turkey is also a very vulnerable country

      Turkey is a NATO siran, at least for now, and Russia will have to wipe itself off the straits.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 April 2 2021 09: 59
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        she will block the straits, Russia will only have to wipe herself.

        Vague doubts gnaw at me that NATO will give a harness for Turkey!
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U April 2 2021 15: 47
          -1
          Quote: Serg65
          Vague doubts gnaw at me that NATO will give a harness for Turkey!

          The situation and the opposite may arise.
  • svp67
    svp67 31 March 2021 13: 15
    +2
    Admiral Vladimir Komoedov believes that the sea route for the delivery of ammunition and military equipment remains the most effective. Close now Turkey the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits for Russian ships - and Russia's military presence in Syria will be under threat.
    And he is right, since the shoulder of the supply by sea will increase sharply, and we also do not have a sufficient number of BTA aircraft to organize an "air bridge", we also do not have serviceable aircraft with a sufficient resource.
    But it is worth remembering about the "Achilles heel" of the American fleet - the Panama Canal, because it can be "blocked" or "broken"
    1. knn54
      knn54 31 March 2021 16: 44
      +2
      -During World War II, Japan planned to bomb the locks of the Panama Canal, but this plan was never implemented due to the imminent defeat of the imperial army.
      It was planned to blow up the locks so that the Yankes could not transfer ships from the Atlantic Ocean. on Quiet.
      But it fell through, thanks ... to the Germans.
      Either Canaris "leaked", or the Germans hoped that it would be useful to them too.
      But the Japanese center was eliminated.
    2. Runway
      Runway April 1 2021 00: 03
      -1
      The Atlantic and TO groupings of the Yankees, taking into account the Allied steamers, are self-sufficient in terms of SIS.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 13: 17
    +4
    all this is clear. It is also clear that the keys to foreign policy in the south lie in Istanbul.
  • Overlock
    Overlock 31 March 2021 13: 17
    +27
    Moreover, blocking a strait or channel is not so difficult, as practice has shown.

    Of course not difficult. It can be difficult to unlock. The owners of the straits are always on horseback and one should not pass by their interests. Maybe that's why Erdogan is a partner, because there is the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles. True, there are also international treaties (in peacetime). The construction of "Bosphorus-2" will provide an opportunity for full control over transit from / to the Black Sea, and there it is possible that Turkey will impose restrictions on Bosphorus-1. His hand is the lord
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 31 March 2021 14: 06
      +1
      Quote: Overlock
      it is possible that Turkey will impose restrictions on the Bosphorus-1. His hand is the lord

      bypassing agreements?
      unlikely
      the channel under construction is more suitable for all sorts of restrictions
      1. Civil
        Civil 31 March 2021 14: 11
        +1
        bypassing agreements?

        Easy, and not such contracts tore. They will close it "for repairs" and will do it for 20 years ... and through B2, which is out of contracts, they will let their own.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 31 March 2021 14: 19
          +2
          Quote: Civil
          Easy, and not such contracts tore

          tore those for whom the power was
          to whom and for what purpose can Turkey restrict the passage through the strait? Russia?
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 31 March 2021 15: 08
            +23
            Quote: Flood
            to whom and for what purpose can Turkey restrict the passage through the strait? Russia?

            It is enough to read the Montreux Convention. Even the United States does not violate it - as the term ends, they rotate ships in the Black Sea
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 31 March 2021 15: 30
              +1
              Quote: Overlock
              It is enough to read the Montreux Convention. Even the United States does not violate it - as the term ends, they rotate ships in the Black Sea

              sorry. is this the answer to my question?
              if yes, then I completely did not understand your idea.
              the meaning of what was written is clear, but it just confirms my words.
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 31 March 2021 15: 06
          +23
          Quote: Civil
          and through B2, which is out of contracts, they will let their own ...

          .... so in fact for the money!
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 31 March 2021 15: 03
        +25
        Quote: Flood
        bypassing agreements?

        "Bosphorus-2" is a commercial one. What prevents Turkey from imposing restrictions on Bosphorus-1, for example, ecology, dredging laughing or solving the problems of the coastline?
        1. Avior
          Avior 31 March 2021 15: 32
          +1
          The convention, of course, gets in the way, what else.
          Such restrictions are prohibited there.
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 31 March 2021 15: 38
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          What prevents Turkey from imposing restrictions on the "Bosphorus-1", for example, ecology, dredging or solving problems of the coastline?

          ecology? will hit trade and international relations. will return to Turkey with a tenfold boomerang.

          dredging work? the depth of the fairway starts beyond 30 meters

          solving the problems of the coastline. even the construction of bridges across the strait did not stop traffic in the strait. what are the problems of the coastline? planting palm trees?
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A April 1 2021 18: 24
            -1
            Quote: Flood
            planting palm trees?

            The introduction of martial law.
            For example, the war with Syria. Official.
            They will fire a cannon in the direction of Syria once a day. And that's all.
            But this will give them complete loyalty to the state of war. And Turkey, being in a state of war, has the right to block the straits.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding April 1 2021 18: 32
              0
              Quote: SovAr238A
              The introduction of martial law.
              For example, the war with Syria. Official.

              From the Convention on the Regime of the Straits, 1936.
              Article 6
              Should Turkey consider itself to be in imminent danger of war, the application of the provisions of Article 2 will nevertheless continue, however, that ships will have to enter the Straits by day and that passage will have to take the route indicated in each individual case by the Turkish authorities.
              1. SovAr238A
                SovAr238A April 1 2021 18: 44
                0
                Quote: Flood
                Quote: SovAr238A
                The introduction of martial law.
                For example, the war with Syria. Official.

                From the Convention on the Regime of the Straits, 1936.
                Article 6
                Should Turkey consider itself to be in imminent danger of war, the application of the provisions of Article 2 will nevertheless continue, however, that ships will have to enter the Straits by day and that passage will have to take the route indicated in each individual case by the Turkish authorities.

                Read everything, and not just that "it is for you to argue - it is more convenient to take it out of context" ...
                read article 20.
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding April 1 2021 18: 48
                  0
                  Quote: SovAr238A
                  Read everything, and not just that "it is for you to argue - it is more convenient to take it out of context" ...
                  read article 20.

                  I pulled it out at your request
                  Article 20
                  In times of war, when Turkey is a belligerent, the provisions of Articles 10-18 will not apply; passage of warships will depend solely on the discretion of the Turkish Government.

                  How else can I help?
                  1. SovAr238A
                    SovAr238A April 1 2021 19: 08
                    -2
                    Quote: Flood
                    How else can I help?

                    Read this text here:
                    the passage of warships will depend solely on the discretion of the Turkish Government.

                    And realize it in your head ..
                    It's easy to understand what letters are written here, what words are collected, and what is the meaning of the words.
                    Action worthy of a kindergarten child.

                    But you persist in showing everyone. that being aware is not for you.
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding April 1 2021 19: 15
                      0
                      Quote: SovAr238A
                      And realize it in your head ..
                      It's easy to understand what letters are written here, what words are collected, and what is the meaning of the words.
                      Action worthy of a kindergarten child.

                      do not be rude, behave with dignity
                      what exactly from the specified article contradicts my words above?
                      Quote: Flood

                      bypassing agreements?
                      unlikely

                      I do not understand the manner of behaving in such a defiant way with a stranger
                      maybe I spoke disrespectfully towards you?
                      take the trouble to explain yourself, citizen of kindergarten age
                      1. SovAr238A
                        SovAr238A April 1 2021 19: 45
                        -1
                        I will even make a boulder on purpose, otherwise you are still in the mode of denying understanding ...

                        Will depend solely on the discretion of the Turkish Government.
                      2. Flooding
                        Flooding April 1 2021 20: 30
                        +1
                        Yes, you do not understand the essence of the question at all.
                        Well, since you don't have enough time to read - if you please, I will educate.
                        Before your appearance in the thread, I wrote that Turkey's hands on the Bosphorus are tied by agreements. And she cannot create prohibitions on far-fetched or real pretexts.
                        You could read it above if you wish.
                        Here you connect, continuing the argument on the side of the previous opponent.
                        And it turns out that in the event of hostilities, to which Turkey is a party, the latter has the right, at its discretion, to block the passage of warships (and only them) by the straits.
                        So. What am I wrong about?
                        Isn't Turkey's ability to block the straits limited by the Convention?
                        Quote: Flood
                        bypassing agreements?
                        unlikely

                        Quote: Flood
                        to whom and for what purpose can Turkey restrict the passage through the strait?

                        Good advice in the end:
                        work on the culture of your behavior at your leisure.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 31 March 2021 16: 53
      -1
      Quote: Flood
      the channel under construction is more suitable for all sorts of restrictions

      How? Turkey is building it for its own money and for its own benefit. She does not need any laws and treaties in relation to the new strait.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 31 March 2021 16: 58
        +1
        Quote: Silvestr
        How? Turkey is building it for its own money and for its own benefit. She does not need any laws and treaties in relation to the new strait.

        not having enough time to read the entire thread?
        it was just about the restrictions on the part of Turkey
        which will be the complete hostess on the second channel
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 31 March 2021 17: 05
          -1
          Quote: Flood
          it was just about the restrictions on the part of Turkey
          which will be the complete hostess on the second channel

          I just read it. The second strait will be the property of Turkey and will be managed by it. Passage of ships for money. To obtain super-profits, under a far-fetched pretext, Turkey may introduce "temporary" restrictions on the passage of ships, for example, in terms of tonnage or loading (oil, diesel fuel, kerosene, etc.).
          What is incomprehensible here?
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 31 March 2021 17: 14
            +2
            you seem to be talking
            you just don't understand
            because I wrote the same thing in different words
            Quote: Flood
            the channel under construction is more suitable for all sorts of restrictions

            Quote: Flood
            it was just about the restrictions on the part of Turkey
            which will be the complete hostess on the second channel
  • Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 31 March 2021 14: 58
    -2
    The construction of the Bosphorus-2 canal is beneficial to Russia. Back in the tsarist era we tried to take control of the strait, and the West did not allow us to do this, because there was only one. If there are two, or better three, then this is easier to do. This is either the occupation (in the worst case) or invest in construction and own the canal on equal terms with Turkey (in the worst case, only the canal zone can be captured).
    By the way, you need to understand that the passage through all straits and canals is paid for all ships, both civil and military, there and back. In principle, if you pay Turkey for not allowing the fleet of certain states to pass, then the Black Sea will be ours.
    Another would be to build a canal from the Caspian Sea through Iran to the Indian Ocean. This is about 700 kilometers, the ships are really river sizes. Trade is the engine of peace (not war).
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 31 March 2021 15: 04
      +22
      Quote: V.
      or invest in construction and own the canal on equal terms with Turkey

      Have you consulted with Erdogan? I believe that in this matter he is an individual peasant
      1. Soldatov V.
        Soldatov V. 31 March 2021 17: 25
        0
        There are proposals that cannot be refused. The S-400, the nuclear power plant, the Turkish stream are a mutual decision. Why Erdogan cannot make a mutual decision with Putin on Bosphorus-2? There is a clean economy in the interests of 2 countries. Only the passage time will decrease by 12 hours. Bosphorus-1 one-way traffic -12 hours one way, then 12 hours the other way, 40 thousand ships per year. Tens of thousands of dollars are paid for one pass. Money is almost out of the air. It's fine if he manages the construction of one. From the Black Sea countries, Russia alone is solvent, the rest of the rogue live on benefits from the West.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 1 2021 17: 09
          +24
          Quote: V.
          There are offers that cannot be refused

          What kind of proposal is this? Sound
          1. Soldatov V.
            Soldatov V. April 3 2021 12: 26
            0
            The main offer is protection and shelter in the event of a successful coup against Erdogan. No one else in the world will help him.
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 April 1 2021 12: 48
        +3
        Quote: Overlock
        I believe that in this matter he is an individual peasant

        By no means, there is still the emir of Qatar in business through his mother.
        But this is not the problem, the construction of the canal will deprive Istanbul of a quarter of fresh water, and plus environmental problems in most of Anatolia. Erdogan in the 11th year whipped that the first steamships would go along the canal in the 23rd year, but the construction has not started yet. The population of Istanbul + Anatolia is about 20 million people, which is almost 1/4 of the electorate, so Erdogan is thinking ... and he wants to, and injects, and his mother does not order ...
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 1 2021 17: 20
          +21
          Quote: Serg65
          But this is not the problem, the construction of the canal will deprive Istanbul of a quarter of fresh water, and plus environmental problems in most of Anatolia.

          Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim January 16, 2018: "The Istanbul Canal is an artificial canal that has nothing to do with this Montreux Convention"
          E. Satanovsky: if a new canal is built, "the Montreux Convention will be buried, and the status of the straits will return to the state of 1913, and transit will depend on the mood of Ankara"
          The game is worth the candle - for Erdogan and his ambitions
          1. Soldatov V.
            Soldatov V. April 3 2021 13: 14
            +1
            There is the Montreux convention and what? America will not climb out of the Black Sea. And with missiles from Arleigh Burke it will reach Moscow from the Mediterranean Sea. The state of 1913 will allow us to demand our route to the Mediterranean Sea so that we do not depend on the Great Sultan who has suddenly gone mad. ...
            By the way, this is beneficial to all the Black Sea countries, despite the relationship between them.
            The desire to restore the Great Port by Turkey will lead it to the final dismemberment. It is worth mentioning the Kurds who were left without their state, the Greeks, several million. The topic is interesting and complex.
        2. Soldatov V.
          Soldatov V. April 3 2021 12: 35
          0
          All problems with water are solved by the construction of above-ground or underground aqueducts. They do not build because NATO explained to Erdogan that the second channel will be called Russian and not Bosphorus-2.
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 31 March 2021 13: 23
    +1
    Even Constantinople blocked the Bosphorus with chains ...
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 31 March 2021 14: 02
      +4
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Even Constantinople blocked the Bosphorus with chains ...

      a fragment of a similar chain that blocked the mouth of the Golden Horn Bay, is kept in the Military Museum in Istanbul
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 April 1 2021 12: 49
      +3
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Constantinople blocked the Bosphorus with chains ...

      Not the Bosphorus, but the Golden Horn Bay!
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee April 1 2021 13: 47
        0
        -"Back in the fifth century BC, during the war between the Athenians and the Spartans, a watchtower-fortress was built on this rocky island. It was through it that the iron chain was originally stretched, blocking the Bosphorus. And at the same time the access to the Black Sea, then called our translation as "Hospitable Sea" (Pontos Euxcinos) or Pontic, which once separated the Bosphorus kingdom from other states "
        The Golden Horn is already another chain, see Novodlom ...
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 April 1 2021 14: 34
          +4
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          on this rocky island

          Vladimir, you look at the map of the location of this island wink
          The distance from the island to the western coast of the Bosphorus is a whole kilometer ... how did they block the strait with a chain there?
          On the Google map, the island is listed as the Maiden's Tower.
          hi
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee April 1 2021 14: 58
            +1
            The ancient sailors, the Greeks, were the first to begin the study and development of the strait. On a promontory to the south in 658 BC. e. the city of Byzantium was erected. People in it were engaged in fishing and agriculture. There was a tower in it, a bronze chain from which stretched across the entire strait to the other side... In such a simple way, the path of ships sailing from one sea to another was controlled - they were carrying wheat to Athens from the south of the Azov and Black Sea coasts. Within its walls, a thousand years later, the city of Constantinople, a stronghold of the destroyed Roman Empire, grew up.

            Source: https://kidpassage.com/activity/turkey/istanbul/proliv-bosfor
            I didn't invent anything .... hi
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 April 2 2021 10: 04
              +2
              Quote: Uncle Lee
              I didn't invent anything ..

              You are a sailor! Have you ever had to carry anchor bows while being repaired?
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee April 2 2021 11: 00
                +1
                Quote: Serg65
                carry anchor bows?

                With all due respect to the anchor-chain, I was not allowed to it, because of the maritime profession, far from deck work, tk. I was the only boss on the steamer! request
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 April 2 2021 11: 02
                  +2
                  Quote: Uncle Lee
                  With all due respect to the anchor chain, I was not allowed to see it

                  But how did those who were admitted to her suffer with her, I hope you saw?
                  1. Uncle lee
                    Uncle lee April 2 2021 11: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: Serg65
                    how they suffered with her

                    An anchor-chain is not such a thing that is worn and shifted from place to place ... Bleed, laid out, recaptured, painted and put into a box ... Otherwise, just one or two bows will be painted - and that's it!
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 April 2 2021 12: 19
                      +2
                      Quote: Uncle Lee
                      Bleed off, spread out, recaptured, painted and put in a box

                      Spread out how?
                      1. Uncle lee
                        Uncle lee April 2 2021 14: 25
                        0
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Spread out how?

                        On a flat surface, back and forth. Do not stretch it to its full length along the SRZ ...
                      2. Serg65
                        Serg65 April 2 2021 14: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: Uncle Lee
                        On a flat surface, back and forth

                        Those. all the same dragged? And there each link is at least 15 kilos, and the bow pulls under 2 tons ... hi
                      3. Uncle lee
                        Uncle lee April 3 2021 02: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Serg65
                        dragged?

                        Yes, do not carry! They laid it out with a crane! And this work was done once every hundred years!
                      4. Serg65
                        Serg65 April 5 2021 07: 50
                        +1
                        Quote: Uncle Lee
                        Yes, do not carry! They laid it out with a crane!

                        The Soviet military sailor replaced all dock mechanization! bully
                        Quote: Uncle Lee
                        And this work was done once every hundred years!

                        recourse You are lucky!
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 April 2 2021 10: 06
        +2
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        I didn't invent anything ....

        laughing Articles are written by people, sometimes far from what they write ...
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee April 2 2021 11: 03
          +1
          Quote: Serg65
          Articles write

          I read about the chain across the Bosphorus when I was young ... So it was not for nothing that there was a rumor about this chain. sad
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 April 2 2021 12: 25
            +2
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            It means that the rumor about this chain was not in vain.

            Many "writers" confuse the Golden Horn with the Bosphorus! One and a half kilometers of chain, albeit bronze, how to raise and tighten from the bottom of the strait? A pair of donkeys or a steam spire? The thickness of the link must be at least 3 cm, otherwise the current will break this chain, not to mention the ancient steamers!
  • YOUR
    YOUR 31 March 2021 13: 38
    +2
    Straits, channels ...
    .. collided in 2013. Probably everyone remembers the flood in the Far East. The bridge over the stream was blown away. In total, 10 meters is not more and that's it. Do not go around, do not cross. There is the mainland, here is the Small Land. The Ministry of Emergency Situations took boats to the store.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 31 March 2021 13: 49
    0
    The strategy of closing straits and channels can be an effective means of influencing
    World trade ... this is that sacred cow that everyone talks about with a breath!
  • Sergey Valov
    Sergey Valov 31 March 2021 14: 45
    +1
    During WWII, the British could not use the Mediterranean for shipping for several years. So what? There were difficulties, there was no disaster. So it will be now.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 April 1 2021 12: 50
      +3
      Quote: Sergey Valov
      There were difficulties, there was no disaster.

      How much did they give their colonies to solve these difficulties?
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 31 March 2021 15: 42
    +1
    Quote: Sergey Valov
    During WWII, the British could not use the Mediterranean for shipping for several years. So what? There were difficulties, there was no disaster. So it will be now.

    Yes, it is clear, though, what were they carrying during WWII from the Asia-Indian region, bananas? They had all communications concentrated in the Atlantic.
    1. demiurg
      demiurg 31 March 2021 16: 15
      +1
      Oil. Gurkov. Food for the people. All sorts of rubbers.
      And this, most importantly, tea !!!
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 31 March 2021 17: 58
        +1
        Quote: demiurg
        And this, most importantly, tea !!!

        And they and other countries walked quite tolerably through the Cape of Good Hope, where the activity of Reich submarines was minimally negligible!
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 April 1 2021 12: 52
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir61
          And they and other countries walked quite tolerably through the Cape of Good Hope,

          Freight traffic is incomparable then and now!
      2. Sergey Valov
        Sergey Valov April 1 2021 15: 31
        0
        You forgot about the supply of the army in the war against Rommel.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 31 March 2021 16: 40
    0
    Something in the article does not say a word about the Panama Canal. One such captain will sweep away the upper sluice so that the water from Lake Lago Gatun poured into one of the oceans, the cork will be worse than in Suez. video how to a ship locomotives flatten, dragging them along the locks.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 31 March 2021 19: 46
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      One such captain will sweep away the upper sluice, so that the water from Lake Lago Gatun poured into one of the oceans, the cork will be worse than in Suez. gateways.

      Here I am about the same thing - it is much cheaper and easier to arrange a sabotage on a channel with some tanker or gas carrier under a neutral flag, and all military transportation will be covered with a copper basin for a long time.
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A April 1 2021 18: 36
      -1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Something in the article does not say a word about the Panama Canal. One such captain will sweep away the upper sluice so that the water from Lake Lago Gatun poured into one of the oceans, the cork will be worse than in Suez. video how to a ship locomotives flatten, dragging them along the locks.

      There are actually three-chamber locks.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 April 1 2021 19: 27
        0
        I talked about the top, but the fact that there are three chambers and that it was reconstructed, I know. I saw the PAN AMERICAN bridge four times. Also an option.
  • SovAr238A
    SovAr238A April 1 2021 18: 41
    -1
    Quote: ccsr

    Here I am about the same thing - it is much cheaper and easier to arrange a sabotage on a channel with some tanker or gas carrier under a neutral flag, and all military transportation will be covered with a copper basin for a long time.


    How far you are from what the sea merchant fleet is, who manages it, how the composition is completed, how port checks and inspections and inspections take place.
    Put the nuclear bomb in the hold. yeah.
    On some Chinese supertanker, with Korean control, with a Malaysian crew, which runs between 12-3 ports in the world for 4 months a year ...
    and a change of carriage with him somewhere in Nigeria or Brazil.