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US Press: "During the Cold War, we had a secret weapon against the USSR, this is their communism"

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Illustrative photo. On Veteran's Day in the USA



The American press openly write that the modern world is in a state of another Cold War. Recall that immediately after the collapse of the USSR, the United States declared themselves victors in such a war. On this occasion, an unofficial award even appeared in the States, which was called "For Victory in the Cold War", with the dates displayed on one of its sides - September 2, 1945 - December 26, 1991.

Now American reporters and analysts are wondering how the United States can win a new war of this type.

In particular, the American columnist Bret Stevens of the New York Times makes interesting conclusions and remarks in his material. According to him, which can cause considerable surprise, the United States “had a secret weapon against the USSR ”, and this weapon, according to Stevens, is communism.

We had a secret weapon against them and that is their communism.

According to the American journalist, communism was a burden "for the imperial Russian state."
From the material:

Even with a multitude of nuclear warheads, the Soviet Union ran out of steam as there were problems with labor relations.

Bret Stevens even quotes the well-known expression "They pretend to pay, but we pretend to work." It was noted that in fact the citizens themselves were no longer interested in preserving the system.

Now, according to Stevens, there is a new Cold War, but with China. And in this war, the United States will also try to achieve "victory". The author claims a threat from China, including a threat from its arms deals and intelligence-sharing deals with Iran.

At NYT:

It's time to think about what our secret weapon might be like now.

The "Chinese personality cult", "nationalism" and "Chinese state regulation" are considered as options.
Using any of these "tools" does not mean the US needs to act without allies, Stevens said.

Thus, the American press once again emphasizes that any relations in the international arena with those whom the US itself regards as opponents are viewed exclusively from the standpoint of waging war (be it "cold" or "hot").
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  1. Dimy4
    Dimy4 31 March 2021 07: 16
    +13
    Using any of these "tools" does not mean the US needs to act without allies, Stevens said.

    And the United States has no allies, it only has vassals with varying degrees of obstinacy.
    1. dSK
      dSK 31 March 2021 07: 30
      +5
      in the States even an unofficial award appeared, which was called "For the victory in the Cold War", with the dates displayed on one of its sides - September 2, 1945 - December 26 1991.
      - who was awarded for such achievements?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 31 March 2021 08: 22
        +19
        Quote: dsk
        - who was awarded for such achievements?

        Gorbachev ..
        1. frruc
          frruc 31 March 2021 11: 43
          +1
          US Press: "During the Cold War, we had a secret weapon against the USSR, this is their communism"

          Everyone knows that it was a secret agent named "Mr. GorbatcheFF"
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 31 March 2021 16: 22
            +8
            Wonderful American Self-Revealing That US Governments never were not, are not and will not be friends of Russia and the Russians. Hence the conclusion: allWho is FOR friendship with the Americans and supports them - either ... very stupid people, or - the enemies of Russia and the Russians. Though separate there are reasonable Americans, of course.
      2. Vadim Ananyin
        Vadim Ananyin 31 March 2021 17: 53
        0
        Gorbachev!
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2021 08: 05
      +1
      Quote: Dimy4
      Using any of these "tools" does not mean the US needs to act without allies, Stevens said.

      And the United States has no allies, it only has vassals with varying degrees of obstinacy.

      and Russia has no one at all.
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 31 March 2021 08: 18
        +11
        but Russia has no one at all

        And we have only those allies who were designated by Alexander III. Always where.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 31 March 2021 08: 18
          -4
          Quote: Dimy4
          but Russia has no one at all

          And we have only those allies who were designated by Alexander III. Always where.

          exactly.
        2. yehat2
          yehat2 31 March 2021 09: 53
          +2
          Quote: Dimy4
          we have only those allies who were designated by Alexander III. Always where.

          the policy of Alexander III led to a huge failure in perspective.
          he practically threw all his resources into providing an outward appearance of stability and tranquility, but in reality the foundation was being destroyed. It was the fruits of his policy that went to Nikolai # 2, who did not take out the tangle of accumulated problems.
          So his beautiful phrase is actually a delusion that needs to be corrected.
          Much more effective was the policy of Stalin, who cared for the state much deeper, creating the foundations of production and political stability both inside and around the perimeter.
          A kind of intermediate middle is the Kaiserreich's policy, when they managed to maneuver for some time, increasing the economy, but in the end they were eaten by external political problems.
          And this example suggests that the course of Alexander III, even in the most optimistic expectations, was a dead end.
  2. apro
    apro 31 March 2021 07: 18
    +5
    They know how to ascribe to themselves superpowers.
  3. Chief Engineer
    Chief Engineer 31 March 2021 07: 21
    +21
    The secret weapon was not communism, but a group of traitors within the country who were in power.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 07: 28
      +3
      Quote: Chief Engineer
      The secret weapon was not communism, but a group of traitors within the country who were in power.

      Once the director of the CIA said that if the world found out who from the leadership of the USSR worked for the Americans, then everyone would fall into a sludge.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 31 March 2021 07: 52
        +1
        Tagged or drunk?
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 08: 26
          +5
          Quote: Alien From
          Tagged or drunk?

          He did not say. This he said in the 90s. I suspect that the ideologist of the catastrophe is Yakovlev. He underwent an internship at Columbia University together with the traitor Oleg Kalugin. By the way, according to some sources, the writer Ivan Efremov was an English spy. With the chase Riki-Tiki-Tavi. He loved to receive guests at home, and he wound himself on a mustache. And I rode all over the country, like a geologist. I sniffed out the missile silos. The KGB surrounded him tightly, the British could not get him out, and he committed suicide. He was a yogi, he stopped his heart. But don't believe me, it's all fantastic. From Ravil Bikbaev. "Over the precipice along the edge of the sword." He invented everything. The author's fiction, as he himself wrote. He named him Efimov. True, the KGB searched Efremov's house for three days, after his death, but these are all insignificant trifles.
          1. Flamberg
            Flamberg 31 March 2021 08: 38
            +6
            He was a yogi, he stopped his heart.

            Fairy tales of the Viennese forest laughing
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 09: 00
              0
              Quote: Flamberg
              Fairy tales of the Viennese forest

              He was the son of the British ambassador to India, according to Bikbaev. They taught there. And in the USSR it was abandoned in the early 20s.
              Secretly

              Head of the Department of Administrative Bodies of the Central Committee of the CPSU

              Comrade Savinkin N.I.

              November 4, 1972 with the aim of the possible detection of anti-Soviet literature, on the basis of a resolution sanctioned by the First Deputy Prosecutor General of the USSR, comrade Malyarov M.P., at the apartment of Ivan Antonovich Efremov, born in 1907, non-partisan, science fiction writer, who died on October 5, 1972, officers of the KGB in the mountains. Moscow and the Moscow region were searched.

              The search order was presented to Efremov's widow, TI Efremova, about which she signed.

              The search was carried out in compliance with the procedural rules, and Efremova did not make any claims against the employees of the state security bodies.

              During the search, a document of a sharply anti-Soviet nature was seized (it was later established that the author of this document was a certain Geynrikhs, living in the city of Frunze), as well as a number of items that could have been used by Efremov in carrying out illegal activities.

              Part of the seized items after their examination by specialists was returned to Efremova.

              Materials on IA Efremov were reported to the authorities.

              January 22, 1973, the Office of the KGB under the USSR Council of Ministers for the mountains. Moscow and the Moscow region on the fact of the death of Efremov criminal case.

              An investigation is underway.

              When responding to the applicant, please keep in mind that the operational check of the connections of I.A. Efremov continues.

              Deputy Chairman of the KGB under the Council of Ministers of the USSR

              V. Chebrikov
          2. Flooding
            Flooding 31 March 2021 09: 34
            +4
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            By the way, according to some sources, the writer Ivan Efremov was an English spy.

            What is "some data"?
            Is this such a euphemism?
            Correctly read unconfirmed information from the category "one grandmother said"?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 10: 44
              +1
              Quote: Flood
              Correctly read unconfirmed information from the category "one grandmother said"?

              No, Ravil Bikbaev taught at the institute. There was also a former KGB officer with whom they crossed paths in Afghanistan. He saw that Ravil Efremova was reading, told him the whole story. Efremov was accidentally caught. He scribbled his ciphers right in the books. One meticulous lieutenant reading his book, suddenly discovered the coordinates of his own military unit of the Strategic Missile Forces. For a long time they could not believe that this scientist was a hardened English spy. How was he called the singer of communism. Then this KGB officer discovered a childhood photo of Ephraim, where he stood with his yoga teacher in a turban in India. The son of an English officer. The KGB sat down on him so tightly that the British wrote him off. They didn't pull him out. One of the KGB officers told him that Efremov was about to be arrested, so he committed suicide. Neither ours nor the British made the story public. The British were silent, because they copied him cleanly, this Riki-Tiki-Tavi, and ours - because he was considered a famous communist writer. So everyone kept quiet. Ravil was told this story by a former employee, no one would believe it anyway. Bikbaev and wrote the book. "Over the precipice along the edge of the sword." Moreover, he defended this version quite fiercely. And although he wrote the name of Efimov in the book, everyone knows who he wrote about. Believe Tatarsha or not is everyone's business. Personally, I like this version. And Efremov is really a talent. It is necessary to write books in such a way that the coordinates in them should be encrypted, if it is true. Try, get to the bottom ... But the logic in the words of the former KGB officer was. Well, or at Bikbaev's, if he composed everything.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 31 March 2021 10: 29
          +2
          Quote: Alien From
          Tagged or drunk?

          Both, race and diligence.
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 31 March 2021 07: 36
      +12
      Quote: Chief Engineer
      but a group of traitors inside the country who were in power.

      They are still in power today. So, the course is the same, towards the collapse and degradation of the country. This is the current weapon of the United States.
    3. TuM0305
      TuM0305 31 March 2021 07: 48
      +1
      Maybe that's enough about the traitors? You had an army of 4 million, the Communist Party consisted of 20 million people, and then suddenly there was no one who came out to defend the USSR. The Russian people merged the power for the sake of McDonald's, 50 varieties of sausages and overseas cowards! When the entire Soviet generation recognizes its responsibility for the collapse of the country, then maybe something will change!
      1. blackice
        blackice 31 March 2021 08: 04
        +6
        The Russian people merged the power for the sake of McDonald's, 50 varieties of sausages and overseas cowards!

        A very deep conclusion. No.
        Remind you of the results of the referendum on the preservation of the USSR?
        Well, the competent divorce of the people by the authorities did their job. Everyone was put on a hunger strike, and then the people were suddenly not up to politics. As well as now.
      2. Squelcher
        Squelcher 31 March 2021 08: 15
        +5
        Not the Russian people, but the Soviet. There is no need to catch the shadow on the fence, the communists, with their national policy of the elites, have played themselves out.
      3. tatra
        tatra 31 March 2021 08: 44
        +2
        It is not necessary, in the cowardly manner of the enemies of the communists, to dump the blame for the crimes of some people on others. As they say, in every crime, look for someone who benefits. And the destruction of the USSR and the CPSU was beneficial only to the enemies of the Communists and the USSR. And your "Liberator" Gorbachev, having become General Secretary, spent 2-3 years preparing a counter-revolution, removing real, by convictions, communists from the highest echelons of power.
      4. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 08: 49
        +4
        Quote: TuM0305
        When the entire Soviet generation recognizes its responsibility for the collapse of the country, then maybe something will change!

        If I knew that such a life would come, I would go to Moscow to beat the muzzles, to the fucking hungry Muscovites that they were drowning in the square for Yeltsin. By the way, the people went out to defend the USSR. So don't la-la. The communists gathered huge demonstrations. But history is written by the winners. Then for some reason it seemed that we would keep all the Soviet buns and at the same time get all the advantages of capitalism. It doesn't work that way. Gorbach ruined everything with his reforms, and Yeltsin at that time seemed like a hero against his background. Boris, you are wrong, you are a Leo! I must admit that the Americans did a good job, dissidents were constantly hanging out at the American Embassy, ​​like Sakharov, read the US Ambassador to the USSR Matlock. The Americans spent trillions on the collapse of the USSR.
      5. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 31 March 2021 10: 34
        +4
        Quote: TuM0305
        The Russian people merged the power for the sake of McDonald's, 50 varieties of sausages and overseas cowards!

        The process began long before Mishan, when Soviet people began to turn into galimous petty bourgeois without an idea, preoccupied solely with getting (not buying, but getting) as many different household goods as possible. I remember very well the main elements of the "good life" of that time: carpet on the wall, color TV, more crystal in the wall (made in the GDR or SFRY), and more scarce food in the refrigerator and imported clothes on the carcass. Voila. The very same great idea by that time had been replaced by a set of empty duty slogans shouted on duty at demonstrations and pushed in at party meetings. In fact, all this could be described in three words: lie, tryndezh and provocation.
        Quote: TuM0305
        That's when the entire Soviet generation recognizes its responsibility for the collapse of the country,
        Immediately for myself: I admitted it initially, and I do not hide the fact that in 1991 I deliberately voted against. And as for "the entire Soviet generation", it is more difficult here, because this mass is very heterogeneous.
        Now, the majority have turned into over-aged infantiles, constantly reflecting on the theme "Ay-yay, what have we lost ..., ay-yay, how they deceived us ..."
        So expectations are in vain - they do not recognize it, because here you need to step on your own throat, but "few people can do it." yes
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 11: 52
          +4
          Quote: Paranoid50
          So expectations are in vain - they do not recognize it, because here you need to step on your own throat, but "few people can do it."

          I admit. I was a student in 91, and when the class teacher (a very wise woman) told us that we would regret, he grinned skeptically. We got 50 varieties of plastic sausage, imported rags and equipment, but we lost everything we owned. American propaganda worked to the fullest. Remember the articles which cigarettes are better? American ... How they smolder and do not go out! Taste like beer? Better than Zhigulevsky. Yeah. And the fact that they impregnate tobacco paper with nitrate, we
          and it was unclear, and the composition of the beer? Instead of hops, malt and a brewer's conscience, they sell us a chemical wash, the composition of which will hesitate to read. All products are shoved with flavor enhancers, if earlier everyone was slim, but now obesity from palm oil ... And the people in the 90s seemed to go berserk. I looked at the queue at McDonald's, grabbed my head: Guys, what are you guys? Standing half a day to have a sausage sandwich? You have nothing to do? Ahhh ... American Big Mac! What happiness! Ugh, no words. Overseas caviar, damn it. Were you not ashamed yourself? Technique ... Yes, my Ocean receiver has been plowing for 40 years without a single breakdown, I still have left from my grandmother, only the backlight bulb has burned out .. And the vaunted Japanese Technics cassettes are already chewing current. They saved on rollers, much thinner than ours, so they spoil the film with a saber press. I fitted videos from Soviet tape recorders of the 96s to my Technics 80-year-old. I got tired of grinding them.
          1. Konnick
            Konnick 31 March 2021 12: 31
            +2
            Instead of hops, malt and a brewer's conscience, they sell us a chemical wash, the composition of which you will hesitate to read

            Now I don't drink these beer drinks, but before I could easily master 5-6 mugs. Zhigulevskoe beer had to mature for about 30 days in oak barrels and the alcohol content was 2,8-3,2% of natural fermentation according to GOST. And GOST regulated such quality of beer as drinkability, i.e. the mug could be drunk in one gulp. When, during the Soviet era, I went abroad and out of curiosity I bought a German canned beer, I didn’t drink enough and threw this muck into the trash can. And the strongest was in my opinion Velvet or Leningradskoe up to 5%, but it fermented for up to 45 days. The main capacities of the breweries were determined by the area of ​​the cellars. Now, for example in the Czech Republic, traditional recipes for brewing beer are being stimulated legislatively and economically.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 12: 58
              +1
              Quote: Konnick
              And the strongest was in my opinion Velvet

              Honestly, I don't remember. Somehow we bought Velvetnoye, and some other, both bottles
              from the Tula Brewery, so Velvetnoye seemed weaker.
          2. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 31 March 2021 12: 43
            +1
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            I fitted videos from Soviet tape recorders of the 96s to my Technics 80-year-old. I got tired of grinding them.

            By the way, speaking of audio equipment: domestic amplifiers "Corvette" were very much even quoted, incl. behind the hillock. Another thing is that the manufacturing plant could not give the required amount, because, nevertheless, the main direction was for the products of the military-industrial complex.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 13: 16
              +2
              Quote: Paranoid50
              By the way, speaking of audio equipment: domestic amplifiers "Corvette" were very much even quoted, incl. behind the hillock. Another thing is that the manufacturing plant could not give the required amount, because, nevertheless, the main direction was for the products of the military-industrial complex.

              The Corvette 038 turntable is still quoted. Although it was very expensive in the USSR. Under 900 rubles, sort of. When I saw a classmate
              and found out how much it costs, my jaw dropped. And personally, my uncle left Arcturus 006 for 240, 1984, and he, such a bastard, still plows.
              There he is, downstairs. The tape recorder, by the way, also works. Vega.
          3. ccsr
            ccsr 31 March 2021 12: 46
            +6
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            I admit it.

            Unfortunately, not everyone can honestly admit that in 1991 they were fools, and they dreamed that under capitalism they would definitely flourish. Life has shown how naive our people were, and now we are picking up the shit that we ourselves have got into.
            1. Konnick
              Konnick 31 March 2021 13: 05
              +3
              I warned my subordinates in 91, some listened, and some simply admired the changes, and the most lazy ones, I was the first to cut them down - feel the new times. Yes, we lived as if in a zoo, i.e. we were fed, treated, etc., but behind the fence, and then we were released into the wild, free with the law of the jungle.
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 13: 45
              +2
              Quote: ccsr
              Unfortunately, not everyone can honestly admit that in 1991 they were fools, and they dreamed that under capitalism they would definitely flourish. Life has shown how naive our people were, and now we are picking up the shit that we ourselves have got into.

              Yeah, they fell on imported letters like magpies on shiny toys. And meanwhile ... I bought a Montana watch, they left for two years and died. And the Electronics watch was 30 years old. At fifteen, fucking times more for the same price! 55 rubles, that some, that others. Galoshes, damn it ...
        2. mmaxx
          mmaxx April 2 2021 06: 18
          +1
          Would bet 1 plus points if I could.
          Tired of these whiners. It was all wrong for them then. And everything is not so for them now. I'm pretty sure they are the same people.
          Except for those who thought with their heads. I, too, in those days was for all good against all bad. But more in such a city .... I do not want to attack and I will try not to give my children.
      6. Obliterator
        Obliterator 31 March 2021 21: 51
        0
        Quote: TuM0305
        The Russian people merged the power for the sake of McDonald's, 50 varieties of sausages and overseas cowards!

        And what is Russian at once? Or the works of the elites and peoples from the nat. outskirts, which dreamed of sending Moscow to hell and stirring up their state, you do not notice?
    4. squid
      squid 31 March 2021 07: 50
      0
      Quote: Chief Engineer
      The secret weapon was not communism, but a group of traitors within the country who were in power.


      Well, who is to blame that after 70 years of undivided and unlimited rule of the communists from the depths of their system, as a result, traitors began to be born and stand at the head of the country.
      1. tatra
        tatra 31 March 2021 08: 46
        -4
        Who is to blame for the fact that the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR always pretend to be those who are beneficial to you at the moment? Of course, not you, but those who believed you.
    5. knn54
      knn54 31 March 2021 08: 20
      +4
      The Bolsheviks saw Lenin alive, and the communists (including modern ones) saw him in his grave ...
      The language is given in order to hide their thoughts. Deep down they fear and hate communism ...
  4. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 31 March 2021 07: 30
    +11
    According to the American journalist, communism was a burden "for the imperial Russian state"

    No, communism was just a weapon of the USSR, a very powerful weapon, not an encumbrance in any way. They confuse something.
    1. squid
      squid 31 March 2021 07: 49
      -11%
      It was with this weapon that the communists killed 20 million Russian people in the first 25 years of Soviet power - victims of communist repression and starving to death as a result of Marxist experiments with the economy.
      1. blackice
        blackice 31 March 2021 08: 06
        +5
        That is, the current experiments with the economy and the extinction of the population of Russia suit you?
        1. Squelcher
          Squelcher 31 March 2021 08: 16
          -3
          Is it strange in africa hunger epidemic constant war and population growing?
      2. tatra
        tatra 31 March 2021 08: 51
        -2
        It is a crime to libel people for crimes. But the fact that you, the enemies of the Communists, after the capture of the USSR by you, staged a genocide of peoples, and only in Russia alone, half of the USSR, the supermortality rate after the capture of Russia by you amounted to more than 15 million people is a reality. But your "philanthropy" does not apply to the victims of your post-Soviet period, you only need it to slander the communists.
        1. squid
          squid 31 March 2021 09: 12
          0
          "Supermortality" is also found in Germany, Switzerland, Japan and South Korea. The most developed countries have the largest population decline, and the most backward ones have the greatest growth. So stop comparing the current imposing hedonism with the massacres of the Bolshevik Red Terror.
          "libelous accusations" have long been sorted to pieces even in Wikipedia articles. 4 million - great terror, 2 million - red terror, 7 million - hunger 30x, 5 million - hunger 20x ... and this is not the whole list. and this is only the USSR, in China the scale was much larger. And then there is such a wonderful country as Cambodia, where the local zealous communists in 3 years from the 8 million population of the country destroyed more than 3
          However, the power of Marxist propaganda is striking even now - after all, there are still a lot of fools around, who, although they have lost faith in Soviet power, continue to believe in the Marxist "idea".
          1. tatra
            tatra 31 March 2021 09: 18
            -1
            Here, thanks for confirming my words. Enemies of the communists are real only when they have no benefit to lie and hypocrite in their vile and criminal purposes, and no matter how diligently they portray themselves as "great philanthropists" in their slander against the communists, which is the only justification for their capture of the USSR in 30 years outside of it, they all proved their true inhuman nature.
            1. Squelcher
              Squelcher 31 March 2021 15: 03
              +1
              Communists have always shown themselves to be liars and hypocrites for the sake of propaganda and ideology. Starting with slander and filth on the history of Ingushetia, ending stealthily as theft by burying the beloved leader of Stalin. They distorted and spat in history for the sake of ideological gain, history now spits at them, what they sowed and got.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 31 March 2021 15: 07
            0
            Communism is a utopia was and will be, accordingly, no practical implementation from it should not be expected.
          3. mmaxx
            mmaxx April 2 2021 06: 20
            0
            And about the White Terror is not written there? BUT! It was not a specially pursued policy ... It was just excesses on the ground.
    2. lucul
      lucul 31 March 2021 11: 26
      0
      No, communism was just a weapon of the USSR, a very powerful weapon, not an encumbrance in any way. They confuse something.

      Absolutely nothing is confused.
      They say that communism was a horror story for the whole world, thanks to which it was possible to rally the countries in front of the communist threat.
      And now there is no communism in Russia, and accordingly there is no horror story, and it is no longer possible to rally the countries against Russia. That's why they grieve.
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 31 March 2021 07: 31
    +3
    Dreaming is not harmful to health, but the practical realization of a dream in life can go sideways for striped ones.
  6. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 31 March 2021 07: 32
    +7
    Tagged and co, this is their secret weapon. Until now, we are disentangling.
    But we have a lead for revival, the USSR was destroyed illegally. Gorbachev illegally dismissed the organs of state power of the USSR. This was by the way before the Belovezhskaya agreements on November 14th. Now people are massively suing for the cancellation of these decisions.
    1. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 31 March 2021 08: 09
      0
      Quote: Herman 4223
      Tagged and co, this is their secret weapon. Until now, we are disentangling.
      But we have a lead for revival, the USSR was destroyed illegally. Gorbachev illegally dismissed the organs of state power of the USSR. This was by the way before the Belovezhskaya agreements on November 14th. Now people are massively suing for the cancellation of these decisions.

      In which court do people massively file claims?
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 31 March 2021 09: 57
        -1
        To their district courts. There was such a flash mob, if you haven't heard, sue Gorbachev for his anniversary. It was March 2. As far as I know, about 700 lawsuits were filed across the country.
        1. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 31 March 2021 10: 16
          +1
          Quote: Herman 4223
          To their district courts. There was such a flash mob, if you haven't heard, sue Gorbachev for his anniversary. It was March 2. As far as I know, about 700 lawsuits were filed across the country.

          It is necessary to pay the court duty, if not a consumer case, the court will not work for nothing ... and that there are 700 lawsuits against the multimillion-dollar Russian Federation ... request
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 31 March 2021 11: 19
            0
            If this action was covered by the media, there would be more. The people suffered a lot from these decisions. And he still suffers. Many rights have been violated.
            1. GTYCBJYTH2021
              GTYCBJYTH2021 31 March 2021 11: 33
              0
              Quote: Herman 4223
              If this action was covered by the media, there would be more. The people suffered a lot from these decisions. And he still suffers. Many rights have been violated.

              Tell us about the violated rights, if you know.
              1. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 31 March 2021 15: 02
                0
                The right to freedom of movement at least. At the administrative borders, there is now border control. Try to get in your car and go to Latvia. The right to justice, the highest instance of the court, was abolished. Many social rights have been violated. In all republics it is different. If you dig you can find a lot.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 31 March 2021 07: 35
    +4
    Bret Stevens even quotes the well-known expression "They pretend to pay, but we pretend to work."
    ... And that's all they know about us ??? Democrat guys, you will never defeat the RUSSIAN PEOPLE, because you didn’t know and you don’t know nifiga about us!
    1. apro
      apro 31 March 2021 08: 36
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      you will never defeat the RUSSIAN PEOPLE,

      Mostly he wins himself.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 March 2021 09: 32
        +2
        Quote: apro
        Mostly he wins himself.

        This is from which side to look ... we also organize / arrange experiments, on ourselves, as a rule. So, just, there is ... to say that this is good / bad, I do not have a definite answer.
        And who has it?
        1. apro
          apro 31 March 2021 10: 36
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          And who has it?

          The communists have a national consciousness, they have a class consciousness, and there is a civilizational one, and above a national one, and a supra-class one.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 March 2021 11: 11
            0
            Quote: apro
            The communists have

            Again the question, WHAT?
            You can argue about those that were then, but you can't get away from the facts, they HAVE much that the modern ones, which we now have under this name ... exist, as it is only in words.
            And it is not necessary to say that they are not in power now, this is a so-so argument.
            1. apro
              apro 31 March 2021 11: 43
              0
              Quote: rocket757
              Again the question, WHAT?

              Ordinary ones who are building a communist society.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 31 March 2021 12: 09
                0
                Quote: apro
                Ordinary ones who are building a communist society.

                Well disguised, however ...
                A good, correct deed should not creep into ourselves ...
                1. apro
                  apro 31 March 2021 12: 14
                  0
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Well disguised

                  Why ??? they are all in sight. Only a communist society. Today nobody really needs it. Most want to catch the capitalist bird of luck by the tail. And they amuse themselves with the hope of becoming big inhabitants of life. Indulging their animal instincts.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 31 March 2021 12: 27
                    0
                    And no one, no one, will bring anything on a silver platter !!! It is necessary to WORK, persistently.
                    I have already told you more than once how the Liberal Democratic Party became the main one in our area, for many years already! But one person did it, a simple functionary from that party ... he is to people with understanding, care, help, and people are ready to respond in kind!
                    This is the way to WORK.
                    People, personally, no longer remember him, but his deeds remember him well!
                    1. apro
                      apro 31 March 2021 12: 31
                      0
                      Quote: rocket757
                      And no one, no one, will bring anything on a silver platter !!! It is necessary to WORK, persistently.

                      This is precisely, but to work consciously, with a definite goal, which the majority is aware of and accepts.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 31 March 2021 12: 34
                        0
                        Society is large and inert! It's like an avalanche should be ... first a small ball in the right place, at the right time, roll up and push. Otherwise, you can wait a long time and ... not wait.
    2. cniza
      cniza 31 March 2021 09: 26
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Bret Stevens even quotes the well-known expression "They pretend to pay, but we pretend to work."
      ... And that's all they know about us ??? Democrat guys, you will never defeat the RUSSIAN PEOPLE, because you didn’t know and you don’t know nifiga about us!


      All the institutions that worked against the USSR were liquidated and the materials apparently too, since the illiteracy of their conclusions is striking ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 March 2021 09: 35
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        All the institutions that worked against the USSR were liquidated and the materials apparently too, since the illiteracy of their conclusions is striking ...

        Welcome soldier
        If you carefully look back into history, then, in the development of them, in consultants, human material of a higher class got into ... there were IDEAL enemies and not only.
        And now who advises them ... scum, of the lowest kind. And what can they advise them fool
        1. cniza
          cniza 31 March 2021 09: 46
          +2
          hi
          Yes, and there were about 17 institutes with a large staff, and now they are runaway offended ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 12
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            and now runaways offended ...

            So it is, imperfections in life ... accordingly, the minke whales will have concepts, illusions of imperfections, eternal.
            1. cniza
              cniza 31 March 2021 10: 20
              +2
              And it's very bad, bad when the enemy has distorted information about you ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 24
                +1
                This is from which side to look ... the most fundamental, stopping, and so, we directly tell them / marked, the line was drawn ... and the rest, let it yourself, yourself.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 31 March 2021 10: 26
                  +2
                  They do not see this feature, because they believe that we are not able to do this, this is the problem ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 29
                    +1
                    They will tell the politicians and knock on their paws when they stretch their paws to where they are below ... there are, if not knowing, then fearing for their skin and this is at least some kind of plus in this whole situation.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 31 March 2021 10: 32
                      +2
                      This is a weak consolation, so apparently it is necessary to somehow demonstrate to them that we are not joking ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: cniza
                        This is a weak consolation, so apparently it is necessary to somehow demonstrate to them that we are not joking ...

                        It is necessary, Schaub they have a greater number of decisive, responsible, began to tremble for their skin! This is a good incentive to keep from the fatal and other dangerous!
                        The instinct of self-preservation is a very serious limitation, a brake, for most of those who are able to THINK!
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 31 March 2021 10: 46
                        +2
                        Here I am about this, we need to make it clear that our hand will not flinch ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 31 March 2021 11: 13
                        +1
                        Quote: cniza
                        that our hand will not flinch ...

                        We have FAITH !!! that everything will be done as it should!
                      4. cniza
                        cniza 31 March 2021 13: 39
                        +2
                        In, in that we live ...
  • Dizel200
    Dizel200 31 March 2021 07: 43
    -5
    It's time to kill this cowboy.
  • squid
    squid 31 March 2021 07: 47
    -2
    I myself came to this conclusion a long time ago. Russian people in the USSR could give their lives in the war, work until they lose their pulse, perform any feats, etc. The communists behind their backs would have fucked everything up, sooner or later. Although the Soviet leaders are also not particularly guilty - they did what they could and as best they could, within the framework of the existing system. It's just that communism as a social system is based on Marxist ideology. And it is fundamentally wrong and flawed, on its basis it is impossible to create any "new society" or even truly explain the old.
    1. blackice
      blackice 31 March 2021 08: 09
      +5
      Please publish your writings refuting Marxist ideology.
      It's just a shame for you. Marx is a world famous scientist, and you, who was able to prove the fallacy of Marx's works, are still vegetating in obscurity.
      Thank you in advance.
      1. squid
        squid 31 March 2021 09: 03
        -3
        Marx's activities have nothing to do with science. A scientist is a person seeking objective truth. Marx is a frenzied propagandist, wherever he can and must not put his "class struggle" on. The true essence of his "teaching" is to divide society into artificially created collective entities, and then oppose them to each other, seizing power on the wave of this conflict. Perhaps not out of the blue, but the point is not in striving for ideals and not building a new society, but in the "divide and rule" scheme. Destroy the best with the hands of the latter, in order to take their place later. By the way, the Marxists never had any "progressive system", even in the most general theory. An ordinary Asian dictatorship, perhaps with an exaggerated role of the state. They did not "build" any "communism" - the Soviet system was formed by the 30s and the whole Soviet history did not fundamentally change, except that mass terror ceased to be used as a method of state administration over time (after which the system immediately began to lose its effectiveness).

        Returning to the essence of Marxism, in my opinion, it is best revealed by a fragment of the speech of Aaron Moiseevich ("Yakov Mikhailovich") Sverdlov - man No. 2 in the Bolshevik hierarchy, the true author (together with Bronstein-Trotsky) of the October coup, Ulyanov's deputy after the assassination attempt, "demon revolution ", the author of" decossackization "and the Red Terror:

        “We must seriously raise before ourselves the question of stratification in the countryside, the question of creating two opposing hostile forces in the countryside, and set ourselves the task of opposing the poorest strata of the population to the kulak elements in the countryside. Only if we can split the village into two irreconcilably hostile camps, if we can ignite there the same civil war that went on not so long ago in the cities, if we manage to restore the rural poor against the rural bourgeoisie only if we can say that we are doing in relation to the village what we could do for the cities. (...) I have no doubt that we will be able to put work in the countryside to the proper level. "

        - here it is, and not tales of the "bright future" are Marxism.
        Ordinary Marxism
      2. Trapperxnumx
        Trapperxnumx 31 March 2021 10: 03
        +2
        It seems to me that life itself and the history of the 20th century refuted Marx's theory better than any scientific work. Currently, there is not a single more or less large social entity that, living according to Marxist ideology, would achieve success and prosperity.
        In any case, I do not know about such.
  • aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 31 March 2021 07: 47
    +3
    The word "peace" from the lips of a mattress is a war in any form for one's own and only one's interests.
  • Andrey Korotkov
    Andrey Korotkov 31 March 2021 08: 02
    +3
    The second day Western journalists are trying to make us laugh, but on April 1 only tomorrow. Their joke failed, it means another nonsense (US weapon - communism) fool
  • 123456789
    123456789 31 March 2021 08: 24
    +3
    Vladimir Ilyich said the phrase: "They don't give power - they take power!"
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 March 2021 15: 15
      +1
      Spineless weaklings give power - our Nikolasha is the second most striking example of this.
  • prior
    prior 31 March 2021 08: 24
    0
    The Americans were, are and will be - stupid. fool
    The weakness of Tsarist, Soviet and present Russia has always been her, the so-called elite. Selling, pro-Western, neglecting her people.
    There is really an exception - Iosif Vissarionovich. Under him, the economy was created, and "Kuzkina's mother", and the victory on the united world fascism, and whoever needed to be imprisoned.
    Now they don't make "Stalinists", now there are corrupt, defective managers ... sad
  • Galleon
    Galleon 31 March 2021 08: 48
    +2
    secret weapon against the USSR, this is their communism

    Now we have the people's secret weapon against this state - its capitalism. Seeming absurdity of some kind. I like a different interpretation of the story better:
    "We used to fight for socialism with a human face. Now they talk about capitalism with a human face. We miss this human face all the time!" (c) M.M. Zhvanetsky
  • tatra
    tatra 31 March 2021 08: 59
    0
    For 30 years, the Russian enemies of the communists cowardly dump the responsibility for the destruction of the USSR and the CPSU on the communists, and Putin praising Gorbachev and Yeltsin for 20 years; a victory over the USSR, and EVERYONE is lying. And the truth is that the enemies of the communists, including those who pretended to benefit from the communists and their supporters, staged a counter-revolution in the USSR in order to destroy everything that the communists and their supporters created, and to become the same rich and richest parasites on the neck of the poor people that they threw off Bolsheviks after the October Revolution.
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 31 March 2021 10: 25
      -1
      Irina, reading your messages one gets the feeling that you are delusional ... Enemies, enemies, enemies all around ... You probably put a Mauser under your pillow at night ...
      Where did they come from, all these enemies? Did they come from Mars? Whose children came to power in the 90s? Aren't they communists? Yegor Gaidar is the son of a wonderful revolutionary writer, on whose books I grew up. Chubais's father is a hero of the Second World War and a teacher of Marxism-Leninism in Leningrad. And so if you look at the biography of any of the "celebrities of the 90s" you will see the All-Union Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Bolsheviks), smart and wonderful parents and so on ... Nemtsov, Khodorkovsky, Yavlinsky, Berezovsky - they are all flesh from the flesh of Soviet society. So maybe there was something wrong with society, if it gave rise to "enemies"?
  • cniza
    cniza 31 March 2021 09: 24
    +1
    Thus, the American press once again emphasizes that any relations in the international arena with those whom the US itself regards as opponents are viewed exclusively from the standpoint of waging war (be it "cold" or "hot").


    So they don't hide it ...
  • APASUS
    APASUS 31 March 2021 09: 39
    0
    Thus, the American press once again emphasizes that any relations in the international arena with those whom the US itself regards as opponents are viewed exclusively from the standpoint of waging war (be it "cold" or "hot").

    Thus, relations with Americans are formed on two fundamental pillars:
    1 submission
    2 confrontation
    In any case, Americans do not see countries as equal partners.
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 31 March 2021 10: 53
      -1
      Fear three things - the horns of a bull, the hooves of a horse and the smile of an Englishman.
  • Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 31 March 2021 10: 09
    +3
    Breshet mattress cover. Communism was the weapon, the banner, which the whole world looked at with admiration. At least until the middle of the 20th century, for sure. It was communism that prompted Western countries to make large-scale changes in the field of social guarantees for workers. As soon as the USSR collapsed, the USA also began to decline - profit for business owners became more important than jobs in the USA itself, hence the withdrawal of industrial sites to Asia with the subsequent loss of many real jobs. Office plankton does not create anything, only consumes and provides services, and if there is no money, there will be no services and who will do what?
  • xorek
    xorek 31 March 2021 12: 02
    -3
    It's time to think about what our secret weapon might be like now.

    Yes, all the same, according to the template ...

    And especially with the Internet, everything has become easier here .. While we are resisting! soldier
    Russia has always been and will be like a bone in their throat, that's the point ..
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 12: 30
      +1
      Quote: xorek
      And especially with the Internet, everything has become easier here .. While we are resisting!

      Vital, who is resisting? Where are our consumer goods? Tell me, are we bummed, or where?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 31 March 2021 15: 17
        0
        In every grocery store on the markets and on the Internet - whoever is looking will find something.
  • Kaw
    Kaw 31 March 2021 15: 28
    -1
    “There was a secret weapon against the USSR,” and this weapon, according to Stevens, is communism.

    I completely agree. If the USSR had abandoned the communist way of life in the early Brezhnev period, it would have existed until now IMHO.
  • Kaw
    Kaw 31 March 2021 15: 31
    -1
    Quote: Trapper7
    It was communism that prompted Western countries to make large-scale changes in the field of social guarantees for workers. As soon as the USSR collapsed, the USA also began to decline

    Paradoxically, this is also true. However, it is impossible to build communism on a state scale. The communist system discourages people from working productively. Moreover, everyone is beaten off from the janitor to the minister.
  • 123456789
    123456789 31 March 2021 17: 01
    +1
    Quote: Vadim237
    Spineless weaklings give power - our Nikolasha is the second most striking example of this.

    Henpecked laughing
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 31 March 2021 17: 05
    0
    there was a secret weapon against the USSR, this is their communism "
    Come on, communism is in competent hands, the greatest force. The "secret weapon" of the United States was the corrupt and rotten Soviet "elite". On the other hand, Russia also has a "secret weapon" against the West, this is their capitalism. laughing Something lately, he somehow does not smell, but quite the opposite, he smells like a dead horse. The fact that the collapse of the Union, they only delayed their agony, suggests that the "theorists of communism", speaking of decaying capitalism, were absolutely right.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 31 March 2021 17: 31
    0
    Their secret weapons were Komsomol and party functionaries (with some exceptions, of course), not communism.
  • Lister
    Lister 31 March 2021 23: 33
    +6
    During the Cold War, we had a secret weapon against the USSR

    Yakovlev and perestroika
  • Vladimir Pavlov_2
    Vladimir Pavlov_2 April 1 2021 05: 46
    0
    your whole dispute, gentlemen, reminds me of the Dnipropetrovsk forum, where a serious discussion about the search for the clitoris flared up, yes, yes, the clitoris, I'm not joking, but now on the topic, I think gentlemen - time will tell ..
  • hermit
    hermit April 1 2021 10: 54
    0
    "We had a secret weapon against them, and this is their communism. According to the American journalist, communism was a burden for the imperial Russian state."

    Well, this is who you have to be in order to drain us with such a level of them.