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Russia plans to "modernize" towed artillery means due to special equipment

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Specialists of the All-Russian Scientific Research Institute "Signal" report on plans to modernize domestic artillery complexes and systems. First of all, we are talking about the modernization of towed guns.


The plans of VNII "Signal" are shared by the press service of the institute, which is referred to RIA News... So, it is indicated that they are ready to create a special set of equipment that could provide automated data entry on towed guns. We are talking about the data for the implementation of shooting, as well as the guidance of artillery weapons at the target.

At the moment, information for firing for many guns in service with the RF Armed Forces is entered manually. Artillery guidance is carried out in a similar way.

The new equipment will make it possible to modernize the towed gun mounts, to use them in the format of a single RSS (reconnaissance and strike system).

The equipment planned for implementation will make it possible to automatically enter data on the coordinates of the target after their identification and transmission via special communication channels. This will definitely reduce the preparation time for striking.

The VNII press service notes that some scientific research has already been carried out on this issue, including those that make it possible to turn towed guns into modern artillery systems with automatic data processing and target guidance.

The development itself, designed mainly for non-self-propelled howitzers, is reported to be carried out "in the coming years."
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 31 March 2021 06: 49
    +3
    It's a good thing ... In Syria, this problem has clearly emerged, the gangs of militants there are very mobile on their carts and time plays a very important role in covering them with artillery fire.
    1. Yves762
      Yves762 31 March 2021 07: 55
      +3
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      It's a good thing ... In Syria, this problem has clearly emerged, the gangs of militants there are very mobile on their carts and time plays a very important role in covering them with artillery fire.

      what
      ... The equipment planned for implementation will automatically enter data on the coordinates of the target after their identification and transmission through special communication channels...

      request
      Maybe I'm wrong, but the longest is just "identification" and not "input" and "transfer" - the smartphone does not handle it, following the example of the same ones, "on carts".
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 31 March 2021 08: 16
        +2
        Quote: Yves762
        the longest is just "identification" and not "input" and "transfer" -, and the smartphone does not cope with it,

        Identification is a separate task for individual agents.
        And here we are talking just about the same "smartphone" that needs to be regularly fitted to each existing barrel.
        1. Yves762
          Yves762 31 March 2021 09: 39
          +3
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          Identification is a separate task for individual agents.


          Although ... what about the "art duel" situation?
          Not the point ...
          But the fact of the matter is that in the current conditions (according to the experience of the same Syria, to which you are referring), this task is of higher priority - this is for "going."
          And this "smartphone", which must be regularly fitted to each existing barrel " there is for "checkers".
          By the way, the "towed" LS also often pulls with handles. Excess weight will not be in their favor for sure. laughing
          Macaw tuning it.
          "Anti-aircraft" would go, al another "stationary".

          P-s. S-s. Expressions like:
          ... the ability to automate barreled towed artillery for a sharp ( tongue ) increasing its efficiency ...
          - the RIA article clearly hints at a "divorce" and a desire to "push"
          1. Jacket in stock
            Jacket in stock 31 March 2021 10: 04
            +2
            Quote: Yves762
            that in the current conditions (according to the experience of the same Syria, to which you refer), this task is of higher priority - this is for "going."
            And this "smartphone", which needs to be regularly fitted to each existing barrel, is worth "checkers".

            Nifiga.
            These tasks are both about "driving".
            Only now you can't teach a cannon to identify it, no matter what you attach to it. This is a separate topic. But to receive information from the "detection" in automatic mode, and not from the voice, this is exactly what is being decided.
            1. Yves762
              Yves762 31 March 2021 11: 39
              +2
              Quote: Jacket in stock

              Nifiga.
              These tasks are both about "driving".

              Basically - yes (I'm not talking about that request ), priority - no (and about this wink ).

              Quote: Jacket in stock
              Only now you can't teach a cannon to identify it, no matter what you attach to it.

              FAQ? what "PSNR-8M", "Sobolyatnik", AN / TPQ-48 (/50)....etc. - this is essentially what then ???

              Quote: Jacket in stock
              This is a separate topic.

              That's just nifiga. This is all to one thing: the architecture of the LMS in the framework of the network-centric principle of warfare.

              Quote: Jacket in stock
              But to receive information from the "detection" in automatic mode, and not from the voice, this is exactly what is being decided.

              And this is a logical contradiction with the above. laughing
              1. Jacket in stock
                Jacket in stock 31 March 2021 14: 43
                0
                Quote: Yves762
                "PSNR-8M", "Sobolyatnik", AN / TPQ-48 (/50)....etc. - this is essentially what then ???

                This is a separate topic, not screwed to the gun in any way.
                It exists by itself and is interfaced with the gun only with the help of a communication line and that "smartphone", which they were finally honored to start developing.
                For there is not much sense from these "companions" if his operator will dictate target parameters to the gun commander by phone, and he will calculate the shooting table on the calculator of the shooting table.
                1. Yves762
                  Yves762 31 March 2021 16: 09
                  0
                  Quote: Jacket in stock
                  This is a separate topic, not screwed to the gun in any way. ...

                  MT-12R / 2A29R "Rapier" with a sighting complex with radar 1A31 "Ruta".
                2. frog
                  frog 31 March 2021 20: 30
                  0
                  if his operator will dictate target parameters to the gun commander by phone, and he will calculate the target parameters on the firing table calculator.

                  IMHO, but a long time ago all this has been done on tablets. Not particularly lazy officers ... If only the authorities suddenly banned, tady oh))
          2. Hagen
            Hagen 31 March 2021 12: 33
            +1
            Quote: Yves762
            And this "smartphone", which needs to be regularly fitted to each existing barrel, is worth "checkers".

            If I understand correctly, the term "smartphone" means both calculators and electric drives of horizontal and vertical guidance mechanisms. And this is far from being "checkered". The calculation will only have to pull the lace (and that can enter the "smartphone") and "throw" shells.
            1. Yves762
              Yves762 31 March 2021 13: 44
              +1
              Quote: Yves762
              By the way, the "towed" LS also often pulls with handles. Excess weight will not be in their favor for sure.
              Macaw tuning it.
              "Anti-aircraft" would go, al another "stationary".
              1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 15: 39
                0
                They were always embarrassed by the ZU-23-2 installations or 2B9 mortars welded to the roof of the BMP transported in the back. Why weren't they put on a 4-wheeled chassis with immediate readiness to open fire? So an additional electric drive will be in place for them. They are also stationary firing points at the outposts.
              2. Hagen
                Hagen 31 March 2021 16: 25
                -1
                Quote: Yves762
                By the way, the "towed" LS also often pulls with handles.

                Didn't you confuse the D-30 with the M-42? laughing The fact that today you cannot pull with handles in service ...
                1. Yves762
                  Yves762 31 March 2021 16: 58
                  +1
                  And 2B16 "Nona-K" or "Cornflower"?
                  1. Hagen
                    Hagen 31 March 2021 17: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Yves762
                    And 2B16 "Nona-K" or "Cornflower"?

                    Oh yes ... There are such. They fell out of sight ... But they can also throw a kilo of 30-40 for the sake of automating difficult processes.
        2. seregatara1969
          seregatara1969 31 March 2021 10: 12
          0
          Will anti-tank crews also target smartphones?
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 31 March 2021 12: 38
            +1
            Quote: seregatara1969
            Will anti-tank crews also target smartphones?

            If we introduce a system of corrections for target movement, why not? If the guidance drives are mechanized (electrified), then electronics can provide great opportunities, up to reconnaissance, prioritization and tracking of targets (not even one). There are already questions for the programmers.
          2. Jacket in stock
            Jacket in stock 31 March 2021 14: 46
            -1
            Quote: seregatara1969
            Will anti-tank crews also target smartphones?

            And why not?
            If the target is out of line of sight, but is observed by reconnaissance equipment. Get target designation and dolby.
            1. seregatara1969
              seregatara1969 April 4 2021 21: 06
              0
              So such electrified artillery was already in the Second World War. Right now, in any park or museum, you can touch these guns and look through the sight.
    2. lucul
      lucul 31 March 2021 11: 14
      0
      Good deal

      It is high time .
      Because in the usual version, towed artillery is no longer a tenant on the battlefield.
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 31 March 2021 12: 14
        +2
        Quote: lucul
        Because in the usual version, towed artillery is no longer a tenant on the battlefield.
        Yes? And the states do not suspect this: they ditched their new SPG (Crusader), sit on old Paladins, and are developing just towed 777s.
  2. Free wind
    Free wind 31 March 2021 06: 55
    +5
    Self-propelled units are much preferable. Much more mobile and cheaper. Each installation requires a towing vehicle. Time to bring the gun to the stowed position, and to put the earring on the hitch, requires skill.
    1. Professor
      Professor 31 March 2021 07: 23
      +4
      Quote: Free Wind
      Self-propelled units are much preferable. Much more mobile and cheaper. Each installation requires a towing vehicle. Time to bring the gun to the stowed position, and to put the earring on the hitch, requires skill.

      As an intermediate option, the installation of a towed weapon on a mobile platform. It is much cheaper than an SPG.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 31 March 2021 07: 27
        +1
        As I understand it, he was going to modernize ... and so there was an article about 152mm on the chassis BAZ 8x8.
      2. bk0010
        bk0010 31 March 2021 09: 22
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        It is much cheaper than an SPG.
        The advantages of towed artillery disappear, but the advantages of self-propelled guns do not appear.
        1) Cross-country ability: a truck with a gun on the "hump" is far from MTLB cross-country ability
        2) The car broke down - the weapon is out of the battle, for the towed one they will simply drive another
        3) Opportunities for transporting railway and air transport are deteriorating
        4) Mask is harder
        5) Harder to produce
        There is only one merit - there is a chance to quickly get out of position.
        1. Professor
          Professor 31 March 2021 09: 47
          -3
          1) The passability of towed artillery is even worse. The caterpillar is better, but only when all the logistics are also on the tracks.
          2) The car broke down - tow it
          3) The railway platform is like carrying a self-propelled wheeled gun or a towed gun. And if you also need to carry a towing vehicle, then here is a clear win over the self-propelled gun.
          4) Masking is much easier. He shot himself in a couple of minutes and for cover.
          5) Much easier to produce than tracked ACS. This is the chassis of a standard truck. The difference in price and service is significant.
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 31 March 2021 10: 14
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            ) The passability of the towed artillery is even worse. The caterpillar is better, but only when all the logistics are also on the tracks.
            Why all? Enough guns and shells. This is how I write - MTLB
            Quote: Professor
            2) The car broke down - tow it
            Tow to battle ... Yeah ...
            Quote: Professor
            3) The railway platform is like carrying a self-propelled wheeled gun or a towed gun. And if you also need to carry a towing vehicle, then here is a clear win over the self-propelled gun.
            Two guns can be crammed onto the platform, and more towed ones will fit into the transport plane. The towing vehicle can be mobilized on the spot, not MTLB, but you do not need to carry it.
            Quote: Professor
            4) Masking is much easier. He shot himself in a couple of minutes and for cover.
            What hideout? You need to hide either a healthy truck with a gun on the "hump" and shells or a gun.
            1. Professor
              Professor 31 March 2021 13: 14
              -3
              Quote: bk0010
              Why all? Enough guns and shells. This is how I write - MTLB

              No, not enough. Reconnaissance, command, communications, kitchen and a whole bunch of other things must keep up with artillery. Put everyone on the tracks and you're fine.

              Quote: bk0010
              Tow to battle ... Yeah ...

              Aren't you towing a towed weapon?

              Quote: bk0010
              Two guns can be crammed onto the platform; more towed ones will fit into a transport plane. The towing vehicle can be mobilized on the spot, not MTLB, but you do not need to carry it

              In theory, in practice, air transport was useful only to bourgeois. They have made a weapon from titanium alloys and carry it on a turntable. And only they are able to bring down the turntables and ammunition and everything else. Nobody else in the world can afford this.

              Quote: bk0010
              What hideout? You need to hide either a healthy truck with a gun on the "hump" and shells or a gun.

              The weapon is not alone at war. You need to mask the entire position. And as we observed in Karabakh, it is easier and easier to just leave the position and as far as possible.
              1. bk0010
                bk0010 31 March 2021 15: 25
                +2
                Quote: Professor
                In theory, in practice, air transport was useful only to bourgeois.

                Quote: Professor
                And as we observed in Karabakh, it is easier and easier to just leave the position and as far as possible.
                We are talking about different things. I am interested in air portability in terms of the rapid transfer of weapons somewhere to the Far East from near Ryazan, and camouflage is not only for avoiding a retaliatory strike. For small conflicts, we have enough ACS.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 31 March 2021 17: 11
                  -1
                  Quote: bk0010
                  We are talking about different things. I am interested in air portability in terms of the rapid transfer of weapons somewhere to the Far East from near Ryazan, and camouflage is not only for avoiding a retaliatory strike. For small conflicts, we have enough ACS.

                  In this case, transport aircraft will pull wheeled self-propelled guns. hi
          2. Hagen
            Hagen 31 March 2021 12: 44
            +3
            Quote: Professor
            Much easier to manufacture than tracked SPGs.

            I would add here, as a positive quality, the ability to multiply the mileage and the ability to move on existing roads without restrictions. Considering that the likelihood of local anti-Barmalian conflicts today is higher than a global world war with a general destruction of infrastructure, this is a very significant characteristic.
        2. lucul
          lucul 31 March 2021 11: 11
          -2
          The advantages of towed artillery disappear, but the advantages of self-propelled guns do not appear.

          You can try to put the gun on a car chassis, with the possibility of descent.
          Well, in the sense that a car tow truck pulls a car onto a carriage with a cable for transportation. So here, when necessary, they pulled the cannon onto the carriage of Kamaz, laid it out, secured it, it turned out an ACS, when not necessary, we lowered the cannon, dug in, we got towed artillery.
          Versatility is the advantage of both the one and the other option.
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 31 March 2021 12: 11
            +1
            Quote: lucul
            Well, in the sense that a car tow truck pulls a car onto a carriage with a cable for transportation.
            It will be difficult: the cannons have a strong recoil, it will be difficult to ensure both the stability of the vehicle and the mobility of the structure, and the possibility of the guidance angle at the same time.
        3. Free wind
          Free wind 31 March 2021 12: 26
          0
          If you didn't manage to dump, then all the pluses are multiplied by zero.
    2. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 12: 18
      +1
      A self-propelled installation cannot be dragged by a helicopter, and cannot be dropped by a parachute, everything has its own application.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 31 March 2021 12: 39
        -2
        A helicopter shoots down a trained shooter from the DShK, like a bully from a sparrow's slingshot.
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 12: 50
          +2
          To do this, you have to transport the DShK on donkeys to the enemy's rear. Howitzers, they hit from afar. Can you handle it?
          1. Free wind
            Free wind 31 March 2021 12: 58
            -7
            In the enemy rear, are the enemies transporting howitzers by helicopters? And donkeys are very cool animals, unlike donkeys in
            1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 13: 03
              0
              You are poorly oriented in space, helicopters transporting howitzers will operate in their own rear, which for you, who is going to shoot them down from the DShK, will be enemy. Your path with anti-aircraft machine gun installations behind enemy lines will not be strewn with roses.
              1. Free wind
                Free wind 31 March 2021 13: 13
                -1
                Dear, I'm not poking you. Why carry howitzers in helicopters to the rear. Moreover, the self-propelled guns will reach faster than the towed guns can be transferred by helicopters. They need to be delivered to airfields, loaded, distributed, secured, and cars are needed for this, then you need to do everything in the reverse order, a couple of soldiers will not be able to drag the howitzer. The forces are not enough.
                1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                  Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 13: 18
                  0
                  Why do the Americans transport their M777A2 howitzers by helicopters in their own rear? They probably forgot to consult with you.
  3. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 31 March 2021 07: 17
    +2
    What if the US and other "partners" against our military formations use EMIs or otherwise damage "automated information input" to such weapons?
    Then everything will be the old-fashioned way ... by hand?
  4. Ros 56
    Ros 56 31 March 2021 07: 27
    +3
    An interesting approach, and if you increase the accuracy and rate of fire, then it has no price. Although the loading is manual, the rate of fire can only be increased by reducing the aiming time. But in general, not bad, people are creative.
  5. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 31 March 2021 07: 38
    +2
    And yet ... they were ahead of us! sad For example, the Vietnamese (although, not only they ...)! As it was said in one review-critical article, "they decide ideas how to put a nuclear reactor on a Columbian caravel"!
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 31 March 2021 07: 40
    +3
    The new equipment will make it possible to modernize the towed gun mounts, to use them in the format of a single RSS (reconnaissance and strike system).
    The equipment planned for implementation will make it possible to automatically enter data on the coordinates of the target after their identification and transmission via special communication channels. This will definitely reduce the preparation time for striking.
    You must do it.
    A unified reconnaissance system, an automated fire control system ... this is what you need!
  7. maiman61
    maiman61 31 March 2021 08: 04
    -5
    This is cool! Well done Shoigu! Imagine how many guns we have, including at storage bases. I think thousands! Modernize, and they will be like modern weapons of today! Cheap and cheerful! You have to be ready for war NOW. And as new self-propelled guns enter the troops, these can be sold to poor countries! And such tools will be bought with pleasure!
    1. chenia
      chenia 31 March 2021 10: 24
      +1
      Quote: maiman61
      Modernize, and will be like modern weapons


      They won't.
      For permanent readiness troops, only self-propelled guns (120 mm battalion - type VENA, 152 mm - from the regiment and above MSTA-S, Coalition). You can also wheeled, but only armored (not open).

      But the mobilization option, the very thing. And the best weapon for this is the D-30. And we need to make it self-propelling,
      И
      Quote: maiman61
      Cheap and cheerful!

      Quote: maiman61
      can be sold to poor countries
      1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 12: 58
        0
        What's the point of making the D-30 self-propelled? The shells will still have to be transported separately. And the possibility of landing will most likely be lost.
        1. chenia
          chenia 31 March 2021 13: 23
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
          What's the point of making the D-30 self-propelled?


          Change of OP after HE, without involving tractors (speed, stealth). BP are laid out in advance on the main and spare. OP. Moving to another area of ​​the base, naturally with the help of tractors (and in a certain area of ​​the base, they don’t fucking crawl out of cover. Well, use the engine to speed up the transition to a combat position. And use the system as a mobilization option.
          And landing is just more profitable with a self-propelled one (after all, the engine is not from KAMAZ). So it was with the SD-44 (the main airborne system.).
          1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
            Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 13: 27
            0
            The SD-44 weighed 2,5 tons, and the D-30 is already 3200 empty, a further increase in weight may be critical for transportation. For the Mi-8AMTSh, the existing mass of the gun is already limiting.
            1. chenia
              chenia 31 March 2021 13: 43
              0
              Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
              and the D-30 is empty already 3200


              So it is necessary to modernize. In some places (if specifically for the Airborne Forces.) To use new materials. Although I repeat, this is the mobile option. And the main artillery for the Airborne Forces (and these troops, it is desirable to have, as a constant readiness) NONA, supplemented by BMD-4 with the module "Bakhcha".
              1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 13: 47
                0
                NONA's firing range is half that of the D-30, as well as the gun of the Bakhcha module. And the decrease in the mass of such a powerful weapon does not always have a good effect on its characteristics. There are many questions, it is too early to abandon the D-30, while its replacement is not visible.
                1. chenia
                  chenia 31 March 2021 14: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                  D-30 to refuse early


                  I admit it is a good system. But now the tactics have changed. OP only for one HE. (further change). The speed of completing a firing mission is much higher. All this can only be provided by self-propelled artillery, and this is a fact.
                  But in the mobile version, (I repeat again) the ideal system (until the factories stamp the self-propelled vehicles).
                  1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                    Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 14: 13
                    0
                    The D-30 is in service only in the Airborne Forces, where there are no self-propelled howitzer units and is not expected in the near future.
                    1. chenia
                      chenia 31 March 2021 14: 36
                      0
                      Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                      D-30 is in service only in the Airborne Forces,


                      Quote: chenia
                      And the main artillery for the Airborne Forces (and these troops, it is desirable to have, as a constant readiness) NONA, supplemented by BMD-4 with the module "Bakhcha".


                      Nona's range 3/4 D-30. enough for a defensive battle, survivability is much higher, the system is armored (supplemented with elements of built-in camouflage and self-entrenching). Introduce ASUNO, which means zonal occupation of the OP, the rate of fire is higher (the time for completing the fire mission is less), the change of the OP is much faster. Well, and so on. etc.

                      I repeat, for the troops of constant readiness. Moreover, the Airborne Forces are needed either before the war (as an option at the very beginning, when the uncertainty about pressing the "button" is still present), where the principle is - who is the clearing. that and a picnic .. Or at the end of the war, when the enemy's air defense is suppressed.
                      And so they must be prepared as "heavy formations" with all the attributes inherent in the MSD.
                      1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                        Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 14: 54
                        0
                        I do not share the confused concepts of the use of the Airborne Forces, and even more so, attempts to falsify by comparing the firing range of the NON and the D-30.
                      2. chenia
                        chenia 31 March 2021 15: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        I do not share a similar concept of the Airborne Forces

                        Yes. I wanted to know, maybe I missed something. And do not confuse the tactical landing (DShBr - which were pushed into the Airborne Forces under Russia), with the operational, and even strategic actions of the Airborne Forces.
                        Well, on paper it is. But how in real life? Well, with an equal opponent.

                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        fake by comparison of firing range


                        Well, compared with ARS. But the essence has not changed, the survivability of the D-30 units is extremely low.
                      3. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                        Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 15: 20
                        0
                        The concept of the use of airborne troops does not apply to the topic of this article in any way.
                      4. chenia
                        chenia 31 March 2021 15: 35
                        0
                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        The concept of using airborne troops is not relevant to the topic of this article.


                        So that's great.
                        When mobilizing (anything can be) and deploying new divisions. The D-30 will become the main system there in the artillery division of SMEs (and even in divisional artillery regiments) unambiguously (until the self-propelled guns are stamped). And the modernization I proposed, at least somehow helps to increase the survivability of the regimental artillery.
                        That's all. what I wanted to say on the topic.
          2. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich April 1 2021 00: 34
            0
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            it is too early to abandon the D-30, while its replacement is not visible.
            PAT-B
            PAT-B
            Carriage from D-30
            Caliber 152mm
            Weight 4350kg
            Range 15200m
            PAT-S
            PAT-S
            The series did not go, the chassis was used for SAO 2S31 Vienna.
            There was also a PAT-K version - a wheeled version on the Ural 5323 chassis, but it also did not take off.
            Developed back in the USSR ...
            soldier
  • stalki
    stalki 31 March 2021 10: 33
    +1
    And if the connection is drowned out, how then to identify and what to enter? No, I understand everything: faster, easier, maybe more accurate, but no one canceled "every fireman". This I mean that the fighters themselves must be able and able to do everything, otherwise they will suddenly forget how to do it. What then?
  • Sergey Aleksandrovich
    Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 12: 27
    +2
    I have a bad idea of ​​how it is possible to attach an electric drive to the D-30 howitzer, the task seems to me too difficult. But to change the chassis for the AGS-57 or "Vasilka", it will be easier to create an opportunity for immediate opening of fire with the addition of an electric drive.
  • Dmt
    Dmt 31 March 2021 12: 43
    +2
    It is impossible to make a homing D-30 without rebuilding the entire guidance mechanism (whoever twisted the VN or GN handle at least once). This is not an MLRS, where an electric drive for the package is immediately provided. So the installation of ASUNO on samples that are in storage is simply impractical.
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 13: 11
      0
      The modernization can be profound. You can radically alter the entire carriage, leaving only the barrel unchanged.
  • Dmt
    Dmt 31 March 2021 14: 10
    +2
    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
    The modernization can be profound. You can radically alter the entire carriage, leaving only the barrel unchanged.

    And how, then, such a modernization will differ from the new design? It is not always financially profitable to simply take an old barrel and put it on a new system.
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 31 March 2021 14: 23
      0
      And such a task seems difficult to me, but once we have undertaken, it means that we already have some work.
  • Dmt
    Dmt 31 March 2021 14: 37
    +2
    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
    And such a task seems difficult to me, but once we have undertaken, it means that we already have some work.

    There is! Each of the gun commanders has an electronic device, so that commands, a sight and a protractor are displayed on it, and not the SOB yelling, breaking the voice, all the settings due to the fact that nothing is heard on the r-159 (discharged / broken).