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Merkel and Macron called on Russia to "commit itself to stabilizing the ceasefire in Donbas"

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President Vladimir Putin held telephone talks with the heads of Germany and France. During the negotiations, various topics were discussed, including the state of affairs in Donbass, the situation with the coronavirus, the situation in Belarus, as well as the Navalny case.

Speaking about Belarus, Vladimir Putin reminded his European partners of the inadmissibility of interference in the affairs of independent states.

When discussing the Donbass topic, the parties once again agreed that the Minsk agreements remain uncontested for resolving the situation. Vladimir Putin noted that Russia is concerned about provocations in Donbass from the Ukrainian side, attempts to impose an escalation of the armed conflict.

In turn, the press service of French President Emmanuel Macron said that Macron and Merkel "called on Russia to undertake obligations to stabilize the Donbas, related to the implementation of the ceasefire." Having heard this, the Russian side called on the German and French partners to do the same, recalling that they too assumed the obligations of guarantors of the implementation of the Minsk agreements.

Let us recall that a few weeks ago the situation in Donbass deteriorated sharply. The shelling again showed itself. At the same time, the Ukrainian side transferred additional forces and equipment to the demarcation line, including armored vehicles.

In the section of negotiations, where Merkel and Macron touched upon the topic of the criminal case of blogger Alexei Navalny, according to the Kremlin press service, Vladimir Putin "gave clear explanations about this situation and about the objective circumstances."

In the conversation, Vladimir Putin raised the issue of the prospects for registration of the Russian Sputnik V vaccine in Germany and France, as well as in other European countries. We will remind that earlier the official representative of the EU claimed that the European Union did not need the Sputnik V vaccine, as they could supposedly get by with their own vaccines. As a result, it turned out that there is a big problem with their vaccines in Europe.
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  1. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 31 March 2021 06: 18
    +59
    "" Merkel and Macron called on Russia "to commit itself to stabilizing the ceasefire in Donbas"
    There is a great option "for stabilization" to bring in Russian peacekeeping troops! good
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 31 March 2021 06: 23
      +49
      Peace enforcement is the best way to stabilize the situation in the LPR. To respond to every aggressive shot of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with at least three peaceful volleys at the positions of the Banderaites.
      1. Sofa batyr
        Sofa batyr 31 March 2021 06: 34
        +19
        the press service of French President Emmanuel Macron said that Macron and Merkel “called on Russia to commit itself to stabilization in Donbass related to the implementation of the ceasefire».

        Hearing this, the Russian side called on the German and French partners to do the same, recalling that they also took on the obligations of guarantors of the implementation of the Minsk agreements.


        Or maybe it was not necessary to make calls to the French and Germans, but simply to do what they asked for? :

        - Once and for all, by decisive action, stop the atrocities of the Ukrainian military.

        Our Kremlin has something wrong with hearing and understanding yes ...
        1. Boris Nevzorov
          Boris Nevzorov 31 March 2021 06: 50
          +45
          Ukraine is not invited to discuss the problems of Ukraine, since, where has it been seen, that the cooks invite the pig to discuss the menu of the future lunch))
          1. NIKN
            NIKN 31 March 2021 11: 56
            +5
            commit to stabilizing the ceasefire in Donbas
            Obligations are obligations, only they also need rights. We would have talked about rights, and only then we would have moved on to obligations.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 31 March 2021 16: 15
              +1
              Both Macron and Merkel, fulfilling the demand of the State Department, were insolent in the region, demanding that "Russia undertake obligations." What will this boundless arrogance lead to? ..
        2. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 31 March 2021 06: 56
          .
          [quote = Divan-batyr] [quote] in the press service of French President Emmanuel Macron said that Macron and Merkel “called on Russia to commit itself to stabilization in Donbass related to the implementation of the ceasefire».



          Or maybe it was not necessary to make calls to the French and Germans, but simply to do what they asked for? :

          - Once and for all, by decisive action, stop the atrocities of the Ukrainian military.

          Our Kremlin has something wrong with hearing and understanding yes ... [/ quote] hi
        3. Civil
          Civil 31 March 2021 07: 03
          +15
          This chatter for the sake of chatter ... there is a long-term "frozen" conflict, because:
          1. Moscow will not abandon Donbass and will not give the border under the control of Ukraine.
          2. Ukraine will not take the Donbass without transferring control over the border.
          3. Moscow will not go to defeat Ukraine because of a possible conflict with the EU, the main supplier of money.
          4. Ukraine will not agree to the seizure of Donbass because of the threat of loss of statehood.
          5. Donbass is an excellent political map and all players benefit from the smoldering conflict.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 31 March 2021 07: 14
            +16
            Quote: Civil
            1. Moscow will not abandon Donbass and will not give the border under the control of Ukraine.
            2. Ukraine will not take the Donbass without transferring control over the border.
            3. Moscow will not go to defeat Ukraine because of a possible conflict with the EU, the main supplier of money.
            4. Ukraine will not agree to the seizure of Donbass because of the threat of loss of statehood.
            5. Donbass is an excellent political map and all players benefit from the smoldering conflict.



            И AMONG THIS ALL - I (WE) I sit like a king on a name day fellow laughing

            But seriously, no kidding, there are many opinions, versions, and plans regarding the development of the situation.

            What decision the "way out" will ultimately have depends solely on the Kremlin.

            So that they do not talk about "the influence of the West", "the world community" or "the interests of the Outskirts", all the same, the key to the resolution is in Moscow yes ...
            1. sleeve
              sleeve 31 March 2021 07: 32
              -5
              We don't have the keys already. We were in 2015-16 when there was a chance in Minsk. Now we can do nothing and they. Vaughn above is very true in several points outlined the dead end.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 31 March 2021 07: 38
                +12
                Quote: sleeve
                We don't have the keys already. We were in 2015-16 when there was a chance in Minsk. Now we can do nothing and they. Vaughn above is very true in several points outlined the dead end.


                Who do you think is depicted in the picture, and what does he do? (This is about "dead ends")

                1. sleeve
                  sleeve 31 March 2021 08: 11
                  +13
                  This is Sanka from Makedonovka. He lived a little. He loved to cut knots with a sword. He got the "shortest" empire after Hitler and Napoleon. An authoritative comrade, of course. Especially in strengthening social relations.
                2. Avior
                  Avior 31 March 2021 08: 17
                  +1
                  In the painting, the object of tourist infrastructure was damaged, depriving the ancient temple in which it was located, a source of income from the curious.
                  At the same time, he did not cut any deadlock, by the way.
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 31 March 2021 08: 23
                    +18
                    Quote: Avior
                    At the same time, he did not cut any impasse


                    Yes ? Then why the expression "Cut the Gordian knot" in a figurative sense is interpreted only as:

                    solve any complex, confusing matter, any difficulties in a straightforward way

                    Naturally, you do not want Russia to "slash" you like that, but what else can you do with the stubborn ones?
                    You don’t understand the language of diplomacy No.
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 31 March 2021 08: 37
                      -8
                      There was no dead end there
                      The curiosity lay in the temple, did not touch anyone, the curious went to take a look and toss donations to the temple, and Phrygia as a whole fell.
                      Then a royal tyrant came and ruined a good thing, ruined it because of his caprice, and not because of some dead end. Neither myself nor people.
                      At the same time, he did not destroy any dead ends, so he promoted slightly to the detriment of his own lands.
                      Where you personally saw the analogy here is unclear. Obviously, whoever you allude to with your analogy disagrees with your analogies.
                      1. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 31 March 2021 08: 44
                        +11
                        Quote: Avior
                        The curiosity lay in the temple, did not touch anyone, the curious went to take a look and toss donations to the temple, and Phrygia as a whole fell.

                        In antiquity pulled? Well, of course what ...
                        You don't want to talk or even think about the fact that it is possible that you yourself will be "cut" in such a straightforward way, since the Outskirts are a worldwide problem.

                        Moreover, there is nothing to think with ...
                      2. Avior
                        Avior 31 March 2021 08: 55
                        -9
                        Actually, it pulled you into antiquity, it was you who brought the image, not me.
                      3. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 31 March 2021 09: 01
                        +10
                        Quote: Avior
                        Actually, it pulled you into antiquity, it was you who brought the image, not me.

                        Times concept allegory incomprehensible to you, then here's another picture, a reason for you to practice in literature. Feel free to "analyze" based on your level of understanding ...
                      4. Avior
                        Avior 31 March 2021 09: 17
                        .
                        There is no real allegory for that story with a given situation. And if you don’t understand it, it’s doubly sad
                        hi
                      5. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 31 March 2021 09: 19
                        +11
                        Quote: Avior
                        There is no real allegory for that story with a given situation. And if you don’t understand it, it’s doubly sad hi


                        Every time you raise your hat - hi , a donkey is sticking out from under it ...
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 31 March 2021 09: 06
              +3
              Quote: Insurgent
              You don’t understand the language of diplomacy

              They only understand boxing diplomacy, "with a left hook to the jaw."
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 31 March 2021 07: 51
      .
      Quote: Insurgent
      the key to permission is still in Moscow

      Why don't they use the key then? Maybe because
      Quote: Civil
      all players benefit from the smoldering conflict.
      ?
    3. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 31 March 2021 08: 12
      +6
      AND AMONG THIS EVERYTHING - I (WE), sit like a king on the birthday fellow laughing

      Move over)
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 31 March 2021 08: 15
        +9
        Quote: Ruslan Sulima
        Move over)

        Donbass is great, if not in territory, then in breadth of soul.

        Why not move, for a person with pure thoughts?
    4. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 April 1 2021 11: 04
      -1
      Quote: Insurgent
      What decision the "way out" will ultimately have depends solely on the Kremlin.

      Unfortunately, not exclusively. There is a splendid pretext for the beginning of aggression against our country, even more convenient than the seizure of the Kuril Islands. Soon there, in Europe, exercises with the involvement of eight teams from the United States, right? Well, they will accumulate on the Ukrainian border, and the Ukrainian troops will go on the offensive. In the present. Having filled up the Donbass with shells, bombs and missiles.
      What are we doing? Wherever you go ...
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 1 2021 11: 22
        +3
        Quote: Mikhail3
        What are we doing? Wherever you go ...


        The motto is the cry of the Marine Corps. But take a broader look at this, especially since neither YOU nor US are left with a choice ... Or - or ..

        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 April 1 2021 12: 15
          -1
          Ponty - it decides ...
  2. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 31 March 2021 08: 28
    -1
    Quote: Civil
    3. Moscow will not go to defeat Ukraine because of a possible conflict with the EU, the main supplier of money.

    It will not go to the conflict, because of a possible large-scale European war .. Surely the States will connect the Poles, Balts, Romanians, all kinds of "European volunteers" to this conflict, all kinds of PMCs from the states themselves, Europe will go, they will drive a stick to the slaughter with a stick, they will overwhelm Ukriya. weapons, money ... The Americans are not so stupid to miss such a case, to kill Russians with someone else's hands ... But old Europe itself does not want war, because the line between conventional and nuclear is too thin ... And Merkel and Macron they understand this ... There the devil himself will not understand how it might end what
  • Aldera
    Aldera 31 March 2021 10: 15
    0
    So that the Ukrainians, together with the EU and the US, howl that they are Russian aggressors? No thanks! Let Germany and France also show aggression
  • Stas157
    Stas157 31 March 2021 07: 34
    .
    ... once again agreed that the Minsk agreements remain uncontested

    Sounds scary. Like a sentence.

    Someone here made rosy plans for the future of Donbass? Listen to Putin.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 31 March 2021 08: 07
      +12
      Quote: Stas157
      Listen to Putin.


      Do not frighten us with Putin's words. He , as a politician , often says one thing and does another.

      Let's go without fuss, let's act and ... wait yes
      1. sleeve
        sleeve 31 March 2021 08: 12
        0
        Hmm ... right. As a politician. And he doesn't really like to tell lies. But you can wait. Not long left.
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 31 March 2021 09: 54
        +4
        Quote: Insurgent
        Do not frighten us with Putin's words.

        I certainly don't want to frighten you (residents of Donbass). I wish Donbass to be reunited with Mother Russia.
  • figwam
    figwam 31 March 2021 08: 40
    +5
    Is it to negotiate with this?
    A new world war began due to vaccination against coronavirus, said French President Emmanuel Macron. According to him, Russia and China unleashed a war, which want to influence other countries with the help of their drugs.
  • Kaman
    Kaman 31 March 2021 08: 42
    -3
    Lech from Android, you are waving your sword so nicely, but not whether to transfer you with your fighting couch to Donbass?
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 31 March 2021 14: 27
    +1
    It is necessary not to answer, but to constantly fire, especially the ammunition depots, equipment and officers in the field.
  • altimo1
    altimo1 31 March 2021 14: 35
    +1
    On the positions of the Ukrainians. Not every Ukrainian is a Bandera, but every Bandera is a Ukrainian.
  • Machito
    Machito 31 March 2021 17: 20
    0
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Peace enforcement is the best way to stabilize the situation in the LPR. To respond to every aggressive shot of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with at least three peaceful volleys at the positions of the Banderaites.

    To begin with, at the numerous requests of Merkel and Macron, Russia should introduce a no-fly zone over the territory of Ukraine. Well, and then the compulsion to peace by peaceful bombing and peaceful cruise missile strikes. If it doesn't help right away, then peaceful carpet bombing on the positions of the Armed Forces.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 April 1 2021 11: 38
    0
    better just one rocket at the bank or at the office of any of the Ukrainian oligarchs.
  • Pilot
    Pilot 31 March 2021 07: 02
    -3
    Quote: Retvizan 8
    There is a great option "for stabilization" to bring in Russian peacekeeping troops! good
    The option is really excellent, only first you need to pick up some of your Faberges from foreign banks. Even the NWF is there (in foreign banks), that's how to bring in peacekeepers here. ???
  • st2st
    st2st 31 March 2021 07: 44
    +5
    Zhenya, there are more than 400 Russian citizens in Donbass, what for are we peacekeepers there for? Maybe it's time for Putin to decide, show will, and protect the citizens of Russia living in the Donbass from the Ukrainian Natsiks.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 31 March 2021 07: 52
      .
      Quote: st2st
      there are more than 400 Russian citizens in Donbass,

      And how much is the total population? What are their political beliefs?
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 31 March 2021 08: 18
        +8
        Quote: Silvestr
        And how much is the total population? What are their political beliefs?


        What is your political credo, Silvestr?

        PS You interviewed Crimeans by name?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 31 March 2021 12: 28
          -6
          Quote: Insurgent
          PS You interviewed Crimeans by name?

          The Crimeans voted and the result was immediate. Your implementation lasts 7 years. Do people change in 7 years?
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 31 March 2021 12: 37
            +6
            Quote: Silvestr

            The Crimeans voted and the result was immediate. Your implementation lasts 7 years. Do people change in 7 years?

            Yes, they are changing, becoming more irreconcilable towards the Outskirts yes Moreover, a new generation was born that did not know the Outskirts, and those who became aware of themselves under the shelling grew up.

            A-a-a-a what ... What interested you in general? And most importantly, why?

            In any case, you will not be asked whether you want or don’t want our entry into the Russian Federation.
            We will be asked yes , as Crimeans, in a new referendum, as the time comes.

            Your task is personally - "take it under the hood" in the name of the interests of the state ...
      2. st2st
        st2st 31 March 2021 08: 39
        +8
        Sylvester, you, like not a stupid man, should understand that the citizens of the Russian Federation, Russia, as the founder of world law, should defend, regardless of any convictions among Russian citizens. Both the liberals and the idolaters of Lyoshka Navalny, too, Russia should protect. Otherwise, we will slide into American crap, we are not the West, we are Russians, no matter how pathetic it sounds
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 31 March 2021 12: 34
          -5
          Quote: st2st
          no convictions of Russian citizens

          I agree, but the question is what?
          Quote: Silvestr
          Silvestr (Sylvester)
          Quote: st2st
          there are more than 400 Russian citizens in Donbass,
          And how much is the total population? What are their political beliefs?

          There is no answer to it, which is a pity. The answer is: the population of the LDNR
          as of March 1, 2020 is about 3 million 704 thousand 071 people. Probably no one knows the exact numbers. The number of residents of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR) who received Russian passports exceeded 600 thousand. This is reported by "Interfax" with reference to the head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia in the Rostov region, Oleg Agarkov.
          Question: what do 3 million 100 thousand of the rest of the population think? In my opinion, the question is very correct, but instead of an answer ..
          Quote: Insurgent
          What is your political credo, Silvestr?

          Is the opponent's answer adequate? Or - for the sake of the "bunch"
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 31 March 2021 13: 00
            0
            Quote: Silvestr
            Question: what do 3 million 100 thousand of the rest of the population think?


            It was not a question, but an unaddressed replica "suspended in the air," all the more so, completely differently formulated:

            Quote: Silvestr
            And how much is the total population? What are their political beliefs?


            To begin with, learn to formulate questions, asking them addressed, and then count on an exhaustive and patient answer.
  • knn54
    knn54 31 March 2021 08: 50
    +3
    -called on Russia "to undertake obligations to stabilize the ceasefire in Donbas."
    We have undertaken obligations to destabilize.
  • antivirus
    antivirus 31 March 2021 09: 09
    0
    enter to the Dnieper and Kiev - this will be a benefit
    yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu
  • svp67
    svp67 31 March 2021 09: 50
    -4
    Quote: Retvizan 8
    There is a great option "for stabilization" to bring in Russian peacekeeping troops!

    But together with them it is necessary to lead the troops of France and Germany. Are you ready for this?
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 31 March 2021 14: 33
      +1
      I am in favor of letting the Russian peacekeepers sit on the western side of the Dnieper, and half of the Russian peacekeepers sit on the side of the Dnieper.
      1. svp67
        svp67 31 March 2021 15: 00
        0
        Quote: Incvizitor
        I am in favor of letting the Russian peacekeepers sit on the western side of the Dnieper, and half of the Russian peacekeepers sit on the side of the Dnieper.

        Then not only Kiev will have to be divided, but also Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye ... and further and further, up to the bend of the Dnieper
        But judging by everything, they are leading to something similar. The western part of Ukraine is developing and the entire industry in the eastern part is almost completely destroyed ... like scorched earth is prepared
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor April 2 2021 01: 46
          +1
          They know that the east will never be a western colony, so they decided to shit in the end as best they can, I won't eat it, I'll take a bite.
  • Far B
    Far B 31 March 2021 06: 19
    .
    According to the Kremlin press service, Vladimir Putin "gave clear explanations of this situation and objective circumstances."
    This is an amusing formulation of the Kremlin press service, according to which it turns out that the owners demanded explanations from Putin, and he "gave them". Not an accidental slip of the tongue? It is quite possible, if we recall the same visit of Bustgalter to Moscow in 2014 ... Financial elites dictate their will through their guides, and the best friend of the Russian oligarchy is obliged to obey. They will tell you to write an explanatory note and write an explanatory note.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 31 March 2021 06: 25
      0
      Quote: Dalny V
      remember the same visit of the Bra

      This visit went well for pre-retirees - up to five years!
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 31 March 2021 06: 30
      -2
      A statement that brings clarity to smth., Clarifies smth., It is not necessary to have your own interpretation, and it is extremely wretched to hang on the usual actions taken in society. Looks vulgar and extremely disgusting.
      1. Far B
        Far B 31 March 2021 06: 37
        +3
        What, nafig, explanation to foreign citizens, albeit heads, about a purely domestic Russian criminal case ??? This is an exclusively internal matter of the state, and no one is obliged to give any "explanations" to any foreign "partners". Unless, of course, ... (see point 1.). Maybe you'd better give up your wretched attempts to wash the current oligarch-comprador system to white?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 31 March 2021 06: 38
          -2
          I do not whitewash the system, but point to a delusional interpretation. I did not say a single word of excuse. I just hate it when people turn everything upside down for the sake of their convictions. Diplomacy lives by its own rules and laws. And to consider Macron and Merkel the masters, even for your clique, is overkill.
          1. Far B
            Far B 31 March 2021 06: 46
            -3
            Why would the head of a superpower (he positions himself this way, not?) During international negotiations give explanations (to explain, to clarify something) on ​​some internal criminal case ??? Are you sane? He will do this only in one case - he is a dependent person!
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 31 March 2021 06: 47
              +1
              Because everyone does it !!! And always!!! Believe it or not, the Union did it regularly at various levels.
              1. Far B
                Far B 31 March 2021 06: 49
                +4
                Examples to the studio! So that the same merkel with pasta was explained to Putin for some kind of intra-French and intra-German criminal cases! Otherwise - windbag.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 31 March 2021 06: 53
                  -6
                  I'm talking about the term and not the topic of it. Komprenda? Examples of what? How is this term used? It seems normal that he said that I was only interested in the interpretation ... and it was with your interpretation of clarification that everything started ... your Stalin gave explanations to journalists on various questions many times. For example, Churchill's speech.
                  1. Far B
                    Far B 31 March 2021 07: 00
                    -5
                    I'm telling you about the term
                    Truth? And then what is this:
                    Diplomacy lives by its own rules and laws

                    Because everyone does it !!! And always!!!
                    It's always like this with you - I remember here (because it's so convenient for me) here - I don't remember (because it's inconvenient), and then they generally wrapped the herring?
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 31 March 2021 07: 01
                      0
                      You read your first post. Then exhale and you will understand what it is about. I remember very well what I'm talking about. This is an amusing formulation of the Kremlin press service, according to which it turns out that the owners demanded explanations from Putin, and he "gave them". Not an accidental slip of the tongue? According to your logic, the journalist of Pravda is the owner of Stalin because he was asked for clarifications and he GIVEN them)
                      1. Far B
                        Far B 31 March 2021 07: 10
                        +2
                        Maybe you'd better exhale before choking with righteous indignation? Does it not reach you that the head of state is not obliged to provide explanations on domestic criminal cases to any foreign partners? Nobody does this. Never. Nowhere. Except for the case specified in clause 1.
                        Vladimir Putin "gave clear explanations of this situation and objective circumstances"
                        This is the official wording of the Kremlin's official press service. But this wording would be more suitable for other circumstances, for example: Vasya Zy, detained for indecency in a public place. "gave clear explanations of this situation and objective circumstances." Or: Stasik Be., A pupil of the middle group of the Belochka Children's Educational Institution, who was noticed writing in his pants to his classmates, "gave clear explanations of this situation and objective circumstances." But this formulation is in no way applicable to the conversation of the heads of state.
                        According to your logic, the journalist of Pravda is the owner of Stalin because he was asked for clarifications and he GIVEN them)
                        The journalist of Pravda is a citizen of the same state as Stalin. In internal affairs, the head of state is not only can clarify fellow citizensbut should explain how and why a particular decision is made.
                        How did you manage to attach this example to diplomacy - God only knows. Apparently, from the great heights of your mind, which I will never reach.
                      2. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 31 March 2021 07: 16
                        0
                        Yes, the opera theater ... so that I could speak to you again ... I will repeat and finish. I did not discuss the topic of clarifications, but your interpretation of this term in principle. The owners demanded and he gave them that's what hooked me. ABOUT ANYTHING I DIDN'T SAY A WORD !!! I don't really care about who is there and what they discussed. Got it ?! I'm talking about how much and everything is explained. Because it is so accepted !!! And not as you said the owners demanded and gave them.
                      3. Far B
                        Far B 31 March 2021 07: 20
                        -2
                        ABOUT ANYTHING I DIDN'T SAY A WORD !!!
                        You need more caps, oga. You have uttered more than words, and it seems that often you yourself do not understand what.
                        Because it is so accepted !!!
                        Not diplomacy. Got it?
  • sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 08: 17
    -2
    Eck, you sealed it! Immediately everything was laid out on the shelves! Don't you want to steer the country, since you are revealing the second "real" bottom so insightfully? I believe, we will become independent once and for all! There is only hope for you. Please agree, huh?
  • Sayan
    Sayan 31 March 2021 06: 32
    +4
    Well, if, as with the Crimea, I am for
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 31 March 2021 07: 44
      +1
      Quote: Sayan
      Ну if like with Crimea- I am for

      Putin is against.
      He once again stated that there is no alternative to the Minsk agreements. And this is, nothing more than a step-by-step map of Donbass entering back into the fold of Ukraine.
      1. sleeve
        sleeve 31 March 2021 08: 22
        0
        There is the same limit. All post-Soviet conflicts "paused" with a formula similar to Minsk to "embed" back into their essence. Well, or something similar in the form of "neutral interaction". Of all the "territories", we recognized independence only for Ossetia and Abkhazia as a result of military actions aimed at eliminating the problem by force. Moreover, Abkhazia is actually a "trailer", but in the right direction. Accordingly, there is experience in the development of the situation. The hot phase or "half-hot" phase without Russian peacekeepers can last for decades. Example Karabakh. But there remained a "provocative" solution that was convenient for both parties. Since the Russian peacekeepers are a specific freeze. With a guarantee.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 31 March 2021 09: 38
          +1
          Quote: sleeve
          There is the same limit.

          I didn't get it! Do you want to say that Donbass should be annexed to Russia by the Minsk Agreement ??

          It's about this - is the Crimean scenario possible with the LPNR or not? So the Minsk agreements speak of the exact opposite (the Crimean version). And our Guarantor also declares their no alternative.
          1. sleeve
            sleeve 31 March 2021 09: 52
            0
            That's all right. When Minsk was written both the first and second options with the entry seemed to be the most effective. A kind of Russian Trojan horse that controls the virus. However, of course, there were no stupid enemies (which, in principle, no one counted on strongly) and the process went into a protracted stage. But ... At the moment we have on our hands "obligations" under the Minsk agreements, we act as guarantors of their implementation. And now there is no maneuver. Now to the question of the "limit". Another series of elections in Ukraine, and it will be clear that the process of political "slavery" is returned there or not. If the domestic political agenda in Hochland does not change, then Plan B will go. But what about him ... Here it is not clear. The hot phase must be neutralized. This is possible either by an "amateur operation" of the LDNR, or by Russian peacekeepers, or by entering Russia. Here we will see. And of course I feel sorry for people. But "decisive action" will cost much more.
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 31 March 2021 10: 02
              0
              Quote: sleeve
              Unless the domestic political agenda in Hochland changes, then plan "B" will go.

              Another cunning plan? Where did you get this from? Kiselev suggested? I would be glad to believe this, but how many times they were burned when the cunning plan turned out to be just an excuse for the Kremlin's failures. And it came exclusively from the lips of regular propagandists and was not confirmed by anything else.
              1. sleeve
                sleeve 31 March 2021 12: 18
                -2
                Please remind one of the options. With "cunning" and failure.
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 April 1 2021 08: 15
                  0
                  Quote: sleeve
                  "cunning" and failure

                  And there everything is a failure, which option do not take.
                  1. sleeve
                    sleeve April 1 2021 09: 21
                    0
                    Yes ... Right. Well, I moved to another country, to Russia, I just don't know what happened.
                    1. Monster_Fat
                      Monster_Fat April 1 2021 21: 56
                      +1
                      As long as Nabiulina goes with reports to the IMF and to the "conference" in the United States, there will be no "solution" to the problem of Novorossia. yes
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 31 March 2021 06: 42
    +6
    ... the press service of French President Emmanuel Macron said that Macron and Merkel "called on Russia to commit itself to stabilization in the Donbas, related to the implementation of the ceasefire regime."
    What they said, they won't tell us! But, we may have our own questions. Maybe the gentlemen are "ashamed" of the truth, in this connection, we do not understand them? Maybe you need to take it and tell them directly - "What do you mean, gentlemen, guarantors?" If this is carte blanche, as an admission of one's own inability to influence Kiev, then there are no problems ... Declare it directly, and we will find the means and methods of observing the deathly silence. And if you have one text for negotiations with Moscow, and the second for Kiev, then we remind you how you cheated the legitimate President Yanukovych in 2014, thereby freeing the hands of the current bastards. Hence, another question arises - "You either do not know what to do, or you do not want to correct something and this situation suits you. Then, there are no Minskys and others, and there will never be."
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 31 March 2021 07: 01
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir61
      If this is carte blanche, as an admission of one's own inability to influence Kiev, then there is no problem ... State it directly

      Wait! They will declare .... Now Russia will start to restore order, and the same Macron and Merkel will scream about integrity, etc., emphasizing that they have nothing to do with it.
  • mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 31 March 2021 07: 20
    -1
    Not peacekeeping!
    For example, tomorrow, to strike at all positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the Crimea and on the demarcation line in the LPNR with artillery and missiles, in one strike at the headquarters and rear.
    After that, advance to the Dnieper and make the state border of the Russian Federation there!
    Going to Transnistria, of course, is also an option, but by isolating the Krajina from the sea, it will become less significant for the West. Well, they will include it in NATO, but the Crimea and the South-East will be neutralized.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 31 March 2021 07: 39
      +1
      Quote: mojohed2012
      After that, advance to the Dnieper and make the state border of the Russian Federation there!

      you need to advance to Lviv
      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 31 March 2021 07: 44
        +2
        Unfortunately, a coup in Ukraine began from Lvov and Ivanofrankovsk. And it was from there that the fooled villagers poured into Kiev and into the national battalions. I don’t claim, but it seems that there we will get an active Probander partisan underground as it was after the Second World War.
        After the Border to the Dnieper - if Lviv or everything to the west wants to be taken by the Poles - oh, the local squares will howl, because Pans, like Russians, will not spare and endlessly forgive them - they will cut how much in vain ...
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 31 March 2021 21: 27
          +1
          Quote: mojohed2012
          Unfortunately, a coup in Ukraine began from Lvov and Ivanofrankovsk.

          so leave Galicia as an independent Ukraine, squeeze out all those who disagree and jump there.
      2. hydroy
        hydroy 31 March 2021 12: 48
        0
        Fuck us Lviv) let Poland take it)
    2. sleeve
      sleeve 31 March 2021 08: 28
      0
      Super! So we will do it. We've always done this throughout history. So why not now? Well, if after that everything becomes bad, it's Putin's fault. Why did he attack Ukraine? Is it logical?
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 31 March 2021 07: 21
    +1
    Apparently, the PPR was carried out and the situation remained, like that cart in grandfather Krylov's fable about a swan, cancer and a pike.
  • Boris55
    Boris55 31 March 2021 07: 25
    +2
    Merkel and Macron called on Russia to "commit itself to stabilizing the ceasefire in Donbas"

    Is it like they offer us to seize all of Ukraine and put things in order there? laughing

    I remember from Libya Medvedev followed their lead and joined the unmanned zone.
    What happened next - everyone knows.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 31 March 2021 07: 28
    +2
    Merkel and Macron called on Russia to "commit itself to stabilizing the ceasefire in Donbas"
    ... Send them naf, naf.
    The freak show there is a creature of minke whales, so let them roll out their claims to them.
    And so, it was clear to whom the screams of the "half-dead snowdrop" were intended ...
    So Uncle Joe sharply lowered all the gayropean "leaders" ... specifically and for a long time, it seems! Now those lyders are getting in, jumping like a louse in a frying pan.
    Ha, ha, it's cool, but that's how, although it won't be funny, if they turned in that direction.
    1. cniza
      cniza 31 March 2021 09: 20
      +2
      Good time! hi

      If they continue to behave like this, then we will take it, but first from them a subscription, so that they would not complain later ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 March 2021 09: 43
        +1
        Welcome soldier
        Since those "partners" to take a subscription to no purpose ... there are a lot of examples.
        They can arrange such quirks according to the written, signed, even if you stand, at least send them away ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 31 March 2021 09: 48
          +2
          Yes, this is for us, a piece of paper will remain for history, or rather they will never write it, so this is all a concussion of air and nothing more ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 14
            +1
            Send naf, this is the end of the process.
            That's it.
            1. cniza
              cniza 31 March 2021 10: 21
              +2
              Only the problem needs to be solved anyway, they will only interfere ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 26
                +1
                No one was there to decide something ... we will kick wherever possible, necessary, from our side. So far, until some of the brains are aired.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 31 March 2021 10: 27
                  +2
                  The brains themselves may not fit into place, it's all difficult ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 32
                    +1
                    It is difficult, therefore, it is desirable to create and strengthen partnerships with those who are ready to go next.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 31 March 2021 10: 33
                      +2
                      So we do it very badly ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 47
                        +1
                        We made a lot of mistakes, lost time ... the benefit of the minke whales began to "help" us ... we are booming to look at the development of events, and those who are supposed to have to rustle, create / strengthen and other necessary things.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 31 March 2021 13: 38
                        +2
                        Yes, the USA is like an elephant in a china shop, but we need to work very actively ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 31 March 2021 13: 59
                        +1
                        Actively and QUALITATIVELY, otherwise there will be empty chores ...
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 31 March 2021 07: 38
    +1
    called on Russia to commit itself to stabilization in Donbass related to the implementation of the ceasefire
    did they ask the troops to enter?
  • fuel oil
    fuel oil 31 March 2021 07: 40
    0
    In general, we talked about nothing ...
    1. sleeve
      sleeve 31 March 2021 08: 36
      +1
      But this is true. Diplomacy, if so ...
  • tralmaster
    tralmaster 31 March 2021 07: 43
    +1
    It is also possible to stabilize the situation in Ukraine along the border with Hungary and Romania.
  • maiman61
    maiman61 31 March 2021 07: 43
    +1
    Why, this is wonderful! Merkel and Macron give permission to destroy Bandera Sharovaria! And immediately the ceasefire in Donbass will be established forever!
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 31 March 2021 12: 49
      0
      Brilliant, in May we start stabilizing!)
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 31 March 2021 08: 09
    +3
    If Russia undertakes obligations, I'm afraid the ukram will not like the methodology and means of their implementation)
  • sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 08: 39
    0
    It is necessary to squeeze them. Request clarification of detailed position. And then maneuver ourselves. Vague force will turn into explicit. Do they want us to take guarantees? For what? And who is involved in this? And what place do they occupy in the system (if it still exists). Let's draw your "wish" into the plan.
  • prior
    prior 31 March 2021 09: 10
    +1
    Merkel, Putin and Macron can say whatever they want about Ukraine and Donbass. They can't do anything.
    All three are bound by their signatures under the Minsk Agreements.
    To untie his hands, Putin needs either an iron argument, for example, the armed aggression of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of Ukraine similar to the aggression of Georgia on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, or wait until Ukraine matures before its collapse and Donbass itself falls into the hands of Russia with the consent of its Western partners.
    No matter how cynical it may seem, it remains to be patient and wait ... Alas, the opinion of the Donetsk residents does not interest any of the participants in the negotiations.
  • cniza
    cniza 31 March 2021 09: 13
    +2
    recalling that they also assumed the obligations of guarantors of the implementation of the Minsk agreements.


    And they always forget about this, because their master rules, in Ukraine, without asking their vassals ...
  • iouris
    iouris 31 March 2021 10: 01
    +1
    Eh ma! The battle of the Nanai boy with the shadow.
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  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 31 March 2021 11: 12
    +1
    the press service of the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin "gave clear explanations about this situation and about the objective circumstances" - the people of Russia would like to hear them, voice them!
  • megadeth
    megadeth 31 March 2021 11: 32
    0
    "To take on the obligation to stabilize the ceasefire in Donbass" Well, take and iron out the MRAU (for those who are in the tank .., a massive missile-air strike) the position of ukrofashists in Donbass ... !!!
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 31 March 2021 11: 52
    -2
    They called and decided to put pressure on Putin, but failed.

    Hand over Donbas, otherwise we will arrange for you in Syria and Libya
    Hand over Belarus, then we will buy a satellite, otherwise it will activate the Navalnists.

    And echelons with equipment at the border. US European Command is changing the status of the likelihood of conflict from possibly to practically irrevocable

    And the final communication for the press is made in such a way that the partners do not lose face.
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 31 March 2021 12: 03
    +2
    That is, they called on Russia to finally send troops to Donbass and gouge the Armed Forces of Ukraine after the very first shelling? I support. To begin with, raise aircraft and destroy all weapons prohibited for deployment in the specified area.
  • Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 31 March 2021 12: 20
    +1
    Merkel and Macron called on Russia to "commit itself to stabilizing the ceasefire in Donbas"

    ***
    - He didn't want to take it upon himself. How he felt. And they told him all the time: "Take it on yourself ... take on yourself." He took over. Now he is here, and they are on the sidelines ...
    ***
  • hydroy
    hydroy 31 March 2021 12: 51
    +1
    Merkel and Macron called on Russia "to undertake obligations to stabilize the ceasefire in Donbass" = start an operation to enforce peace in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the political elite, if you want war, get it
  • alexander 08
    alexander 08 31 March 2021 12: 59
    +1
    Quote: Retvizan 8
    "Merkel and Macron called on Russia" to commit itself to stabilizing the ceasefire in Donbas "
    This means only one thing, they want to make Russia a party to the conflict on the side of Donbass!
    1. Alexey Kotov
      Alexey Kotov 31 March 2021 14: 07
      -1
      In the West, everyone thinks so, but the fact that we do not think so is of no interest to anyone. Moreover, for this, we have been treated to sanctions for many years now.
  • Alexey Kotov
    Alexey Kotov 31 March 2021 14: 03
    -1
    We are already being told in plain text, and ours is answering something unintelligible. It somehow reminds me of either Gorbachev or Yanukovych.
  • Mikhail Kosikov0418
    Mikhail Kosikov0418 31 March 2021 18: 14
    +1
    One can imagine how difficult and dreary it is for Russian President Vladimir Putin to talk with such "outstanding representatives" of a degenerating and degrading Europe as Macron and Merkel.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 31 March 2021 20: 34
    +1
    They made a fool of it or suggested it? winked But anyway, the word is not a sparrow, and it's time for the General Staff to take up the maps of Donbass and decide on the contingent. laughing
  • Lister
    Lister 31 March 2021 23: 11
    +8
    Merkel and Macron called on Russia to "commit itself to stabilizing the ceasefire in Donbas"

    I am sure that we will put things in order. If the Europeans ask, then how can they not help them ... Everyone will be happy about the new Union of the fraternal peoples of Russia and Ukraine.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus April 1 2021 10: 06
    0
    In turn, the press service of French President Emmanuel Macron said that Macron and Merkel "called on Russia to undertake obligations to stabilize the Donbass, related to the implementation of the ceasefire." Impudence is the second happiness. Liberate Donbass and all regions of Ukraine. whoever considers himself the Russian World, then Russia will fulfill its obligations.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus April 1 2021 10: 20
    0
    Merkel and Macron touched upon the topic of the criminal case of blogger Alexei Navalny, according to the Kremlin press service, Vladimir Putin "gave clear explanations about this situation and about the objective circumstances." all clarifications.
  • Romanenko
    Romanenko April 1 2021 11: 36
    0
    Quote: "Merkel and Macron called on Russia" to commit itself to stabilizing the ceasefire in Donbas "
    Or maybe the "fool" is enough to turn it on, call Langley, inquire about the nearest plans to pacify Ukraine.
    You ask the wrong side questions
  • khyum
    khyum April 1 2021 15: 00
    0
    The roofing felts have gone stupid, the roofing felts have become insolent.
  • yaelxninsh
    yaelxninsh April 1 2021 15: 05
    0
    Macron and Merkel should be the first to do this.
  • Sartana
    Sartana April 1 2021 21: 47
    0
    Well, you can also call on aliens. No one forbade calling. But how was Russia called?
  • yfast
    yfast April 4 2021 20: 38
    0
    Putin fears a protracted war over Donbass, otherwise he would have sent a couple of divisions on vacation to the banks of the Dnieper to sunbathe long ago. But he cannot close opposition channels like Zelepukin (no offense to Zelepukin), and there will be a lot of dead and cannot be hidden now, plus all sorts of fakes, plus a pension gift, plus I want to become a king. Therefore, Donbass is now a suitcase without a handle.
  • Edward P.
    Edward P. April 30 2021 16: 24
    0
    Great idea. Long-range artillery and wet on the points from which the fire is being fired, there is an excuse - stabilization at the request of France and Germany
  • Tramp
    Tramp 17 May 2021 23: 00
    0
    Let's destroy the APU and say if anything. Germany and France asked us.