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In the US press: By his statement, Biden himself rallied the Russians around Putin

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US President Joe Biden made a big mistake in accusing Putin of being a "killer" during an interview with ABC TV channel. After all, this statement angered not only the supporters of the current Russian president, but also his opponents.


This is the reasoning of Robin Dixon, whose article was published by the American newspaper The Washington Post.

He believes that with his statement, Biden himself rallied the Russians around Putin. At the moment when the ruling United Russia party began to rapidly lose popularity, the American president gave the Russian leader a significant trump card. According to the opinion expressed in the newspaper Kommersant, now thanks to Biden, "United Russia" will be able to get an absolute majority in the State Duma on the basis of the upcoming elections.

The fact is that the image of the enemy, in which the Russians began to represent the West since about 2014, has become very dim over time. But after the statement of the American president, he again played with bright colors.

It is not entirely clear, though, what has to do with the support (or even sympathy) of Putin personally after Biden's words and the support of the United Russia party?

As noted, quite recently, Putin's rating beat anti-records, and a wave of anti-Putin protests swept across Russian cities, after Biden's antics, sympathy for the head of the Russian state began to return among his citizens again. As they write in the US press, this can be judged at least by their behavior at the celebrations dedicated to the seventh anniversary of the return of Crimea, during which people openly expressed their support for the Kremlin.
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  1. Orkraider
    Orkraider 30 March 2021 18: 07
    +41
    Nothing has changed and nothing has changed.
    As a number of people BB scolded, so those same will continue to persuade him.
    A living example is our VO
    1. AUL
      AUL 30 March 2021 18: 18
      +14
      According to the opinion of the Kommersant newspaper, thanks to Biden, United Russia members will now be able to obtain an absolute majority in the State Duma following the upcoming elections.
      Was it planned otherwise?
      1. purple
        purple 30 March 2021 18: 24
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        We have transparent elections, and it is likely that the EP will be in for a surprise
        1. Alf
          Alf 30 March 2021 18: 28
          +18
          Quote: purple
          We have transparent elections, and it is likely that the EP will be in for a surprise

          Panfilova will overdo it and again get 146%?
          1. purple
            purple 30 March 2021 18: 30
            -4
            146% what are you talking about? Or is there nothing so easy to say? What does the election and typos have to do with it?
            Take an interest in the question on the last governor elections, for example. And not just into a puddle ...
            Say nonsense ... I'm ashamed of you
            1. Alf
              Alf 30 March 2021 18: 34
              +20
              Quote: purple
              146% what are you talking about?

              And you ask where the 146% meme came from.
              Quote: purple
              Inquire about the latest governor elections

              Tell the residents of Primorye about these elections, when the candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation who won the election was simply and brazenly removed.
              1. purple
                purple 30 March 2021 18: 37
                -6
                And you ask where the 146% meme came from.

                I don't need to be interested, I know, I saw it in real life, I screwed up the first channel

                About Primorye ... if they took it off, then it was for what ... How many in other regions (including ours) did the candidates not from the United Russia win.
                We had a stupid protest vote ... if only not for the United Russia party, and that candidate is the Governor now ... although as time has shown in vain they did it
                1. DED_peer_DED
                  DED_peer_DED 30 March 2021 20: 24
                  +4
                  Quote: purple
                  the first channel screwed up

                  Oh, no. The first channel-anal has nothing to do with it. The Central Election Commission drove such "figures" to him. At the same time, the "good children" programmers from the authorities asked ___ once again, after the Second Eltsin Elections. After which the main programmer of the Central Election Commission, after (it seems) 3 months, was hit to death by a car in Moscow.
                  Oh, well, yes. No problem.
                  1. Mitroha
                    Mitroha 30 March 2021 21: 37
                    +7
                    The fact is that the image of the enemy, in which the Russians began to represent the West since about 2014, has become very dim over time.

                    Let's say not from 2014, but from 1946, at least, not counting the intervention in 1919. Yes, and they themselves do not let him fade
                    1. Vladimir Mashkov
                      Vladimir Mashkov 31 March 2021 15: 40
                      0
                      To tell the Achtivists that Putin enjoys authority and support most population of Russia - useless... VO achtivists completely agree with the Americans and the West that they DO NOT use it. From what? Why? After all Russian elections and polls show what is enjoying? But he DOES NOT use it, because they think so !!! EVERYTHING deception and fog !!!lol
                  2. Malyuta
                    Malyuta 30 March 2021 21: 56
                    +1
                    Quote: DED_peer_DED
                    At the same time, the "good children" programmers from the authorities asked ___ once again, after the Second Eltsin Elections. After which the main programmer of the Central Election Commission, after (it seems) 3 months, was hit to death by a car in Moscow.
                    Oh, well, yes. No problem.

                    I apologize strongly, but the authorities do not like the performers of black deeds. Here are two doves of spiers-viley "Petrov with Vasechkin" somewhere. Maybe they are not alive already ....
                    1. DED_peer_DED
                      DED_peer_DED 30 March 2021 22: 21
                      -1
                      Do you disagree with this postulate?
                      I agree.
                2. Alexey from Perm
                  Alexey from Perm 30 March 2021 21: 41
                  +19
                  United Russia is a watered party of big capital, which with its policy and its laws, where by action or inaction have worsened the lives of people, and therefore it's time to dump it with their leadership)))
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 30 March 2021 19: 02
                +1
                Quote: Alf
                Tell the residents of Primorye about these elections, when the candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation who won the election was simply and brazenly removed.

                Hello Friend! Now turboputriots will tell us about the rallying of 146% of the inhabitants around the circle of a friend's circle.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 30 March 2021 19: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Hello, friend!

                  Ave!
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Now turboputriots will tell us about the rallying of 146% of the population

                  Already told. Especially the Bolt Cutter. Immediately carried some garbage. A master to chatter and talk about nothing.
                  And an interesting remark - the king is smeared and exalted, but somehow already sluggishly, without a soul. I wonder why would it be? Fees have been reduced, is there a crisis after all?
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 30 March 2021 19: 18
                    +2
                    Quote: Alf
                    And an interesting remark - the king is smeared and exalted, but somehow already sluggishly, without a soul. I wonder why would it be? Fees have been reduced, is there a crisis after all?

                    There are enthusiasts, there are zombie ones, but there are more of them for the money. We are already organizing focus groups, 1000 rubles a visit.
                    Friends of a friend have a lot of money, they will do everything right - this is their vital necessity, otherwise the invention of the Frenchman Joseph Guillotin looms
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 30 March 2021 19: 19
                      +4
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      We are already organizing focus groups, 1000 rubles per visit.

                      Come on, come on, more details !!!
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 30 March 2021 19: 34
                        +5
                        Quote: Alf
                        Come on, come on, more details !!!

                        500 people are invited to the meeting, each must pretend to be a supporter of some political trend, respectively, there will be 70-80% of the pro-government, the rest will be divided between the officers. opposition. Roles are predetermined. everybody quieter, extras for 500.
                      2. Alf
                        Alf 30 March 2021 19: 37
                        +2
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Quote: Alf
                        Come on, come on, more details !!!

                        500 people are invited to the meeting, each must pretend to be a supporter of some political trend, respectively, there will be 70-80% of the pro-government, the rest will be divided between the officers. opposition. Roles are predetermined. everybody quieter, extras for 500.

                        Where do the firewood come from, i.e. infa? And how does the site administration look at it?
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 March 2021 19: 46
                        +8
                        There are probably different people in the administration too.
                      4. Alf
                        Alf 30 March 2021 19: 50
                        +2
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        There are probably different people in the administration too.

                        The golden calf is so beckoning ...
                      5. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 March 2021 20: 19
                        +8
                        "Love comes and goes, but you always want to eat." (C)
                        An old truth ... wink
                  2. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 30 March 2021 19: 58
                    +2
                    Quote: Alf
                    Where do the firewood come from, i.e. infa?

                    Word of mouth works in regional cities, and there are already professional focus groups. everything is held in rented clubs, conference rooms, etc. Websites have nothing to do with it.
            2. Cottodraton
              Cottodraton 31 March 2021 01: 55
              +2
              Yeah, word-of-mouth-based fairy tales have begun. Believe that, of course, only you need. Bo the same 146% only you have real ones! Yes Yes
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 31 March 2021 02: 29
                -6
                Yeah, word of mouth tales have begun
                word of mouth ... based on social networks, which in turn are controlled from .... (you can add, to taste ... winked ) !?
            3. Intruder
              Intruder 31 March 2021 02: 27
              -3
              otherwise the invention of the Frenchman Joseph Guillotin looms
              hmm, he even has a French patent, it is for this design, for medical purposes for the treatment of headaches, by the way! wink
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 30 March 2021 19: 19
            +11
            Quote: Alf
            And an interesting remark - the king is smeared and exalted, but somehow already sluggishly, without a soul. I wonder why would it be?

            When the mood in society is appropriate .. it is difficult to praise the king from the heart .. you can pass for the sane ..
            1. hirurg
              hirurg 30 March 2021 20: 37
              .
              Consider me insane.
              I, past the 90s-Gobachev-Yeltsin.
              Received a free education.
              Working as a doctor ... getting a stable salary.
              I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE TSAR FOR UNLIMITED.
              And what's more, everyone I know takes the same position.
              Therefore, dissatisfaction with Putin is in your heads.
              In fact, Russians have never lived as well (over the past 100 years) as they do now.
              You just look into someone else's garden and think that apples are sweeter there ... well, well.
              1. hirurg
                hirurg 30 March 2021 20: 59
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                Yes, I forgot to add.
                My wife's relatives live in prosperous Finland. Now guess where they are going to be treated? And it is paid! There is no insurance.
                Yes Yes. To us.
              2. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 30 March 2021 21: 27
                +7
                My wife's relatives live in prosperous Finland. Now guess where they are going to be treated?
                They are most likely illegal.
              3. hirurg
                hirurg 30 March 2021 21: 46
                .
                What do illegal immigrants mean?
                Hereditary Finns.
                They are treated there free of charge.
                Only the level does not suit.
                Ill-Paracetomol.
                Until you get an appointment with a specialist (rheumatologist, surgeon ..)
                Wait! HURRAH!
                Special (50% - from Russia)
                Well, in short, they complain to me.
              4. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 30 March 2021 21: 50
                -6
                In England, Moldovans make such feints with their ears. The familiar Finn preferred his system to English when he lived here.
                Special (50% - from Russia)
                And surely not at 146%? wassat
              5. Pensive Lawyer
                Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 01: 06
                .
                You shouldn't be talking positively about Russia here.
                Navalnyata, who believe that the state owes them only because they were so magical were born here, seized this site.
                Any news rolls into groans that they cannot find a normal job / the boss does not pay a decent one / some kind of product has risen in price / hyperinflation / put everyone in prison, we will rule / why Putin does not clone himself and does not stand with a candle at every official in the office, so as not to steal.
                The only thing of all the moaning is that the pensions are low.
                And so, it's time for the guys to go from words to deeds and get out of here already.
                Although no, they are all the same, like the Israelis on the forum, they will spew tons of feces, even though they do not live here.
                Self-actualizing, probably so. Everyone is bad, I'm the only one Dartagnan.
              6. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 01: 23
                +10
                I worked for 35 days in November-December. From dawn to dusk. The bosses paid me eleven thousand. Rubles. And he himself received three hundred. And he ran away. Guess what I want to do with him? You fucking lawyer.
              7. Pensive Lawyer
                Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 02: 22
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                I suppose to go to the prosecutor's office?
                And, I suppose, register as a self-employed, call regular customers, and say that they can now work directly with you, setting the price a little less than the organization took, and receive instead of 11 thousand ... how much does the organization take for 1 order? And how many of them do you personally perform, and clients already communicate with you directly?
                Or, perhaps, if the work involves being directly at the workplace, are you going to retrain, taking into account your education, for something that you can do yourself?
                Or is it so scary that you will suddenly not earn 11 thousand? This is in vain, you will earn peacefully, just believe already, finally, in yourself, and not in your uncle. And demand payment for the work. And when you have not been paid for half a month, complain. Let the greedy brute be whipped publicly by the regulatory authorities.
                Now all this is being done quickly, and even quite large companies cannot excuse themselves from the supervisory authorities.
              8. Pensive Lawyer
                Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 02: 24
                -6
                Oh, yes, the boss ran away from you. He deceived you, that is, he too. What is your homeland to blame for? The president? Or Putin ran away from you? With blood?
              9. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 03: 41
                +6
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                Oh, yes, the boss ran away from you. He deceived you, that is, he too. What is your homeland to blame for? The president? Or Putin ran away from you? With blood?

                And who built such a system that the bosses can run away? If you had told me about it in the USSR, I would have just twisted it at my temple. There was no such thing under the USSR. And Putin ... Well, yes, he is not in business ... He never has anything to do with. We have raised the retirement age, in fact, they have taken away from every pre-retirement pension for five years, do you calculate yourself, or do you find a calculator? I ask you to treat with understanding .... Nothing to do with it, the Russians have become insolent, they began to live a long time.
              10. Pensive Lawyer
                Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 12: 02
                -5
                We built the system ourselves. I can rather say that you yourself, because I am younger than 30 years old, and, accordingly, at that time, well, I could not influence everything that happened.
                There was no such thing under the USSR. Right. But the people did not protect the Union, he died. And under capitalism, open borders, the opportunity to fly anywhere right today (me in general, and not specifically about the current situation with the covid), yes, this is real, because it is possible. Under the Soviets, where was your director to run to? There is one country around, it was very difficult to get out of its jurisdiction.
                Putin himself is a supporter of authoritarianism, and gradually what we call democracy is stifling. We will not live well under democracy and capitalism. We are the ones. I am given my job, quite.
                But there will always be those who will plow for a penny, because he has three children (which he only thought, being with a salary of 15 thousand), because the boss knows that he has nowhere to run, and tightens the screws so as not to escaped.
                Not Putin. Chief. The one who stands next to us in the store at the checkout. Until our society begins to value justice instead of HYIP, the instasamoks that have lost their human appearance, until young people younger than me, 5-10 years old, begin to think (only 5-10 years of difference, but it's scary how different the worldview is and how much brainwashed by the same Navalny, they throw slogans, you start to explain why it’s impossible, eyes become puffy, they really think that the state is on a high to spread rot and watch the population heating up), nothing will change. A mess in the head. Directors-patriarchs.
                There are no questions for young leaders, they really value the time of their employees. I could only work with such.
              11. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 12: 35
                -2
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                Under the Soviets, where was your director to run to? There is one country around, it was very difficult to get out of its jurisdiction.

                So close the borders, what's the question? Simple solutions are the most effective ones.
              12. Pensive Lawyer
                Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 13: 05
                -2
                Ok) Let's simulate the border closure situation:
                1) Crowds of dissatisfied go out into the streets, because you can't go on vacation abroad, or to visit your relatives.
                2) A monstrous blow to businesses that work with foreign companies that do not have branches or representative offices in the Russian Federation.
                3) Monstrous corruption for the right to let go on the same vacation outside the Russian Federation - I don’t know, it will be necessary to look directly for holy people for these positions. And there are no saints around.
                4) About the pressure from the entire international community, perhaps, we will not say anything, here we are used to it.
                5) It is also better to keep silent about the consequences for the tourism business, airlines, and also partly the railway and road transport.

                As a result, the solution to this particular disease is, of course, effective, but the side effects of such a medicine will be worse than the disease itself.

                Conclusion - you yourself must fight for yourself. Either change the system to hell for authoritarianism, or, with such wishes, rather for dictatorship. With a dictatorship, everything you want will be. Everyone will keep pace, there will be practically no corruption, there will be the broadest social guarantees and decent wages. Because under a dictatorship, the state has other inputs. And apart from improving the lives of citizens and protecting the borders, the dictator, in fact, has nothing to do. Steal? He, the dictator, can get, as a king once did, everything that the country can offer him with a snap of his fingers. Why and, most importantly, what to steal, if everything seems to be yours and free?
                But of course, you will have to partly part with the freedoms. About the freedom not to work, about the freedom to throw mud at your country and power, about the right (maybe not, but we proceed from the worst) to change the place of work and occupation, about the right to be childless without good reason, or about the right to have only 1 child, also, you might need to forget.
                So when you get one, you lose another. And what to choose is a personal matter for everyone, we are all different, we have different values.
              13. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 14: 17
                -2
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                Crowds of dissatisfied take to the streets, because you can't go on vacation abroad, or to visit your relatives.

                These are just your assumptions. I personally do not know a single person who would want to go there. Maybe bums.
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                A monstrous blow to business

                Did the covid strike? I'm screwing over your zoo. When you say that you get little, they advise you to shut up and look for another job. Well, then I return the advice to your brethren. Do not go to travel agencies, but look for another job. Don't like the advice?
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                Monstrous corruption

                I don't see a problem at all. Plant, what's the question? Or are you a corrupt person and therefore unhappy? Don't bribe or take. By the way, one surgeon weaned me off bribes, in 1993 he performed an operation on me, and in gratitude I bought him a bottle of brandy. He did not take it. Since then, I don’t give to anyone, and I don’t take from anyone, because everyone should do their job without any additional gratitude in the form of material values.
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                But of course, you will have to partly part with the freedoms. About freedom not to work

                And such freedom and nafig did not resist to me.
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                we are all different, we have different values.

                Here you are right, the question is how to make the minority live according to the laws of the majority, and how to determine where the minority is and where the majority is. And then somehow at the dawn of "democracy" they decided to play "democrats". The referendums were held. Now they do not carry out, there is nothing for the "cattle" to express their positions.
              14. Pensive Lawyer
                Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 15: 18
                +1
                Rest abroad is more expensive than rest on our coast. You know, it's hard for idlers to save up for it. To relatives - I mean including the Republic of Belarus. After all, let us leave the borders open with the same Republic of Bashkortostan - nothing will simply change, they will run through the neighboring fraternal republic.

                It's one thing to change jobs, another to bury an entire industry. And all this in order to avoid the likelihood that the director will throw you. however, this does not apply in any way to low salaries. Don't you think that this is too high a price for your material security, unwilling to defend your rights? And I'm not suggesting you "shut up". I suggest you take the situation, take your life into your own hands. Do not trust her state and go with the flow. And paddle yourself in the direction you want to swim.

                Dissatisfied just because he is not a corrupt official, but here it will be a sea. Due to the lack of an apparatus to contain it. Coordination of travel abroad is an individual matter, and it will be very difficult to prove that they were allowed for gratitude. As well as to control the officials making such decisions.

                And are you sure that you are the majority in this opinion? 10 years ago - quite likely. But the younger generation will not live by your rules and will not indulge you. And you will not be able to force the young to live your way. They are more active, they replace you, young (up to 35 years old) specialists are already beginning to be more appreciated in the market than 50-year-old professionals with vast experience, and that's all because they think more flexibly. You need to adapt, just like later, at your age, today's youth will need to adapt to new realities, whatever they may be.
              15. Altona
                Altona 31 March 2021 20: 51
                +4
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                They are more active, they replace you, young (up to 35 years old) specialists are already beginning to be more appreciated in the market than 50-year-old professionals with vast experience, and that's all because they think more flexibly.

                ------------------------------------------
                Yeah, only I am directing these "specialists" in the right direction, because messing up for them is like two fingers on the asphalt, instead of doing something useful. And for some reason their "flexibility of mind" is exclusively financial. I'm not talking about everyone, of course, but such a frank ageism is not worth writing. Age discrimination is prohibited in our country. And your passage smacks of social Darwinism. If anything, then I am 53 years old and I am aware of all your shmend trends.
              16. Pensive Lawyer
                Pensive Lawyer April 1 2021 20: 58
                -1
                My passage smacks of objectivity without smoothing out of "political correctness". The brain of young people works more efficiently. The flexibility of the mind is also lost with age - it is stifled by personal experience. It is really harder for a new person to learn with age. And if you work with specialists who constantly (from time to time everyone makes mistakes, we are all human) make mistakes at the age of 30, that is, having more than 5 years of experience in the profession, then the guys simply do not hold out on their brains.
              17. Altona
                Altona April 2 2021 12: 22
                +1
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                The flexibility of the mind is also lost with age - it is stifled by personal experience.

                ------------------------
                Are the laws of physics and chemistry also lost with age? Is materials science also lost? Is there any geometry and mathematics? laughing laughing
                With age, on the contrary, you realize that a properly built system helps to spend less effort on work and on survival.
          3. andrew42
            andrew42 April 1 2021 13: 30
            +2
            You propose the "Latvian version": let the old people vegetate in the "patria", and let the young adapt - obviously where they are in demand, that is, outside. You have at least a count on your head like that - for a constant (!), Long-term (!), Steady (!), With no hope of changing the trend (!), A decline in the population of Russia - you stubbornly refuse to look at this. This is the RESULT of your beloved sweet bourgeois power. The rest of the "economy for the sake of economy" statements are not worth the paper they are printed on.
      2. Altona
        Altona 31 March 2021 20: 45
        +4
        Quote: Pensive Lawyer
        Conclusion - you yourself must fight for yourself.

        -------------------------
        Thank you, dear man, for your kind advice. Then answer, why do we need to maintain such hordes of power structures that do not protect the rights of a citizen? Some of which, like you with a legal education, by the way.
      3. Pensive Lawyer
        Pensive Lawyer April 1 2021 20: 24
        -1
        The rights of citizens are not violated in any way by low wages, if you yourself agreed with it by signing the contract.
        Power structures, first of all, do not protect rights, but ensure your security. Then there are concepts like rights.
        And to fight in my proposal meant just to appeal to the controlling authorities, and not to commit lynching.
      4. Altona
        Altona April 2 2021 12: 20
        +1
        Quote: Pensive Lawyer
        Power structures, first of all, do not protect rights, but ensure your security. Then there are concepts like rights.

        --------------------------
        The rallies and the recent epic in Mytishchi clearly illustrate the state of security and the state of rights. I do not condemn without exception, moreover, I myself often encounter law enforcement officers. But the system is degrading more and more.
  2. Nikza
    Nikza 31 March 2021 13: 43
    +3
    Excuse me, of course, you're still young and stupid :-) Youthful maximalism. Even though you say the right things. And life, most likely, will still attach your face to the asphalt, for understanding, so to speak. This is not me to offend you, but just to state. People can be made to be good only with a stick, a stick along the ridge. As soon as a person loses the danger of getting in the snout, it (people) begins to shit on the head of others. Putin's freedom has led to a terrible crisis. Narodishko began with non-payment of taxes to the state and came to throw each other. Now the people are still on fire and away we go ...
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  4. andrew42
    andrew42 April 1 2021 13: 22
    +1
    "We built the system ourselves." - Yes, it's just a confession! Of course YOU yourself. Well, not WE, Russian hard workers - we had no time, between the minimum wage and the communal apartment. Oh, we have different Russia, different!
  5. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer April 1 2021 20: 30
    -1
    Please note that I indicated in the text itself that I am less than 30 years old. I did not participate in the construction of the system due to being in diapers.
    I will even try to surprise you - I am a fan of the Chinese model of the state and their punitive mechanism for criminals.
    I am attributed to the fans of the GDP only because I say that among the leaders-CAPITALISTS, he is the best option.
    In the absence of leaders, socialists or communists, I support the GDP.
  6. Serg65
    Serg65 31 March 2021 13: 13
    +6
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    If you had told me about it in the USSR, I would have just twisted it at my temple. There was no such thing under the USSR. And Putin

    Vova, you should have thought about it in 91! And as far as I know from your own words ... in the 90s you rolled like cheese in butter ...
  7. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 14: 55
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    in the 90s you rolled like cheese in butter ...

    I worked in an enterprise that really had social justice. That is, if a worker in the USSR received 300 rubles, then the director received 600. And he was not impudent like some others who, under capitalism, raised their "salaries" to unprecedented heights, our director respected the workers, always tried to call us by name and patronymic, and did not hesitate to greet the handle. He drove a UAZ, and did not make stone chambers, although he could. And not only I skated like cheese, all the workers of our enterprise received a fucking salary for those times. For example, if my mother, working as a cashier, received 15-20 thousand, then I received more than 80, and with a bonus and more than 200 from. Just for the same amount my father bought a seven from a friend in good condition. And this is the merit of our director. Even our cleaning ladies received four to five times more than a cashier in a store, for example. And this is again the merit of our director, Nikolai Nikolayevich Konstantinov, who himself was not impudent and did not allow his "friends". Under his leadership, everyone was well fed, shod and dressed. Now take the leader of our country. Some have a lot, while others - empty. And after that they will tell me how well he runs the country?
  8. Serg65
    Serg65 31 March 2021 15: 18
    +3
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    Under his leadership, everyone was well fed, shod and dressed.

    Conclusion .... back to the 90s?
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    And not only I skated like cheese, all the workers of our enterprise received a fucking salary for those times.

    what This is probably the only case in the whole of Russia !!!
  9. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 15: 38
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    This is probably the only case in the whole of Russia !!!

    Our company in the 90s was included in the top hundred. Across Russia. And I do not propose to return to the 90s, because our plant was working on the remnants of Soviet reserves. Yes, compared to others, we rolled like cheese in butter, every week I bought a couple of bottles of brandy and smoked Lucky Strike. Given that he kept about one-tenth of his salary for himself, and gave the rest to his mother. Only for large purchases I used to leave my salary, such as a two-cassette player, a video recorder, a TV set and all that. Moreover, for washing, for example, a leather jacket, I gave 15 people a drink in the trash. Oh, I lied. He left about one-sixth. I received, say, 600 thousand, kept a hundred for myself. Half a million for mothers.
  10. Nikza
    Nikza 31 March 2021 11: 39
    0
    A naive Chukotsky guy :-)) No one will work with him directly. Most (if not all) enterprises 3 \ 4 work in black, through the "trash heaps", to evade taxes, but on kickbacks. Therefore, your (his) price "a little less" finally does not attract them. With "self-employed" you will have to work on white or burn your "trash heaps". There are no fools. (No need to nightmare the business. "Oga-oga.) And all enterprises in the employment contract put a minimum wage (in a given area), the rest is a" bonus ", so the prosecutor's office is useless. no employer. I've been looking for a job right now. I've seen enough of everything. Quiet horror. 5 years ago there was no such thing. People walk in jambs from one kid to another. Complete paralysis of working relations. Complete. Uzbek-Belarusian-Ukrainians completely corrupted. and destroyed the labor market.
  11. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 12: 34
    +1
    Not Chukchi, southern) the organization does not pay taxes with the self-employed, there is also no danger of qualifying relations as labor relations, it is profitable for them to work with them.
    If they set a minimum wage - do not agree! Demand white. Yes, there will be less tax. Instead of 30 dirty, 25 will be white minus taxes. but work only according to the work schedule. Raise your legal literacy, know what and when you may be required. Someone will send you. But you do not need these "someone", they initially treat you like slaves, YOU do not need to work for them, and your literacy will allow you to identify them at the interview stage.
    Working relationships are dying, and consumers have a demand for services and jobs. And so they will work with private traders. Your business is to interest.
  12. andrew42
    andrew42 April 1 2021 13: 42
    +1
    This is "advice from the big bosses" from Shaov's song - "and will give advice instead of money." In real life, everything is different - not the way it is written in the papers. Remind me of the government's cries about the need to bring in guest workers? This is the fresh fruit of the System - "the economy is for the economists", and not for the population of the country - in all its glory. After "17 tyrov" as the norm for the "middle class" (middle slave) from the lips of our Obshchak Obshchak, there is even nothing to discuss.
  13. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer April 1 2021 21: 06
    0
    The point is that the representatives of my profession have everything in life the same as on paper, at least in labor matters.
    And the barrier between my world and "real" is legal literacy. The employer will not throw and will not try to throw those from whom he expects resistance in addition to verbal indignation.
  14. andrew42
    andrew42 April 2 2021 13: 03
    0
    Law without force and real (and not voiced) opportunities to defend the right, - Empty Empty (zero squared).
  15. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer April 2 2021 13: 15
    0
    There are opportunities, mechanisms are there.
    You just give the supervisory authorities a reason to replenish the budget) Of course, it's a pity that the motives are not high, but if the result suits me, I don't care what the people were guided by.
  16. Serg65
    Serg65 31 March 2021 13: 15
    +6
    Quote: Nikza
    I've been looking for work for half a year now.

    Where are you looking for? City, brother?
  17. Serg65
    Serg65 31 March 2021 13: 11
    +7
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    The bosses paid me eleven thousand

    what 11 thousand in two months ... minus 15 thousand housing and communal services in two months, minus food and drink, minus the Internet .... Volodya, you take money from the bedside table ???? belay
  18. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 15: 19
    +2
    Quote: Serg65
    11 thousand in two months ..

    In thirty-five days. That is, from about 22 one month to 27 the next. Housing and communal services - about 9 thousand. Together with the Internet. Do you want to know how I eat? And with macaroons, plus I earn money in garages. In addition, they also pay me pills - 500 rubles with a tail. That Serega, the template of the brain did not break?
  19. Serg65
    Serg65 31 March 2021 15: 57
    +4
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    That Serega, the template of the brain did not break?

    No, not torn laughing ... I sometimes catch the same fish, 40 kg each! wink
  20. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 16: 05
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    That Serega, the template of the brain did not break?

    No, not torn laughing ... I sometimes catch the same fish, 40 kg each! wink

    Can you show the photo?

    Here's what my brother catches.
  21. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 1 2021 09: 10
    -2
    And with macaroons, plus I earn money in garages.

    And I have long been macapos and porridges at the rate of 300-350 rubles per day for a family of 3 people. The food city in Moscow helps out, with an advance payment and salary I buy for 2 thousand, as a standard, one turkey breast at 280-320 rubles, turkey necks 120 each one fish, a briquette of Georgian feta cheese and a couple of kilograms of squid at 200 rubles. In stores, only cereals, butter and bread for shares.))) True, I save 50-70 thousand per month. I dump out of the country and need money for my own business ((
  22. FrankyStein
    FrankyStein 31 March 2021 03: 08
    +8
    Have you looked into the statistics of emigration for a long time? There are numbers from the nineties. This is not migration, this is flight, the exodus of the population. Putin is not cloning himself ?? Yes, he only does this, no one asks him about it, he crawls into every hole, self-actualizes plya, nothing but populism and self-righteousness, he does not a damn thing anymore.
  23. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 12: 12
    -4
    He is trying to change the psychology of the masses.
    Under him, channels for corruption are chopped off one by one.
    Just right off the bat:
    From the old: introduced 223 fz and 44 fz, their mechanism is constantly being improved.
    A system of castling of the highest ranks of state bodies has been introduced, it still fails, but it is being debugged.
    From what is newer: offshore companies have begun to strangle.
    We began to move from SWIFT to our state-controlled system.
    And that's what's in sight.
    Yes, with the psychology of the masses, a complete failure. Sitting people over 40 years old, who are far from the worldview of modern youth, as a result, a complete defeat in the ideological war. Religion and bondage does not work for the young. I'm waiting when it finally comes to the point that instead of films about war and idiotic comedies, it is necessary to cut action films, investing in special effects, and then gradually add a pinch of patriotism there. Just a pinch, more will cause rejection and will be branded. And there already war films will look more favorable.
  24. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 12: 41
    0
    Quote: Pensive Lawyer
    I'm waiting for it to finally come to the point that instead of films about war and idiotic comedies, it is necessary to cut action films, investing in special effects,

    This is for Bondarchuk. He ditched an entire plane on the set of the 9th company. But the film turned out so-so, neither fish nor meat.
  25. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 13: 10
    -3
    Well, the first pancake is lumpy. The attraction of the first part, albeit too naive and exaggerated in places, was on the level in terms of special effects. I didn’t see the second one, I don’t know. There would be more of them. The outpost was also a pretty good film, although at the end of the screenwriter and the budget, too, obviously, was not enough.
  26. Serg65
    Serg65 31 March 2021 13: 16
    +6
    Quote: Pensive Lawyer
    He is trying to change the psychology of the masses.

    what Not tired yet?
  27. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 14: 52
    -1
    Who! They are? This is their job.
  28. Serg65
    Serg65 31 March 2021 14: 56
    +3
    You! Fight ghosts!
  29. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 15: 56
    -2
    I do not fight ghosts) I just think that there should be a position on the site besides the all-propals and urapatriots. Something more calm and objective.
  30. Serg65
    Serg65 31 March 2021 16: 00
    +2
    Quote: Pensive Lawyer
    Something calmer and more objective.

    She is present, you got to the Sabbath of envious people and lovers of money in other people's pockets laughing ... normal people rarely come here!
  31. Altona
    Altona 31 March 2021 20: 56
    +3
    Quote: Pensive Lawyer
    People over 40 years old, who are far from the worldview of modern youth, are sitting, as a result, a complete defeat in an ideological war.

    -----------------------------
    People over 65 are sitting, do not drive a blizzard on 40-year-olds.
  32. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 1 2021 09: 53
    0
    Have you looked into the statistics of emigration for a long time? There are numbers from the nineties.

    What do you want? There is a split in society, and not along the line of oligarchs / officials against ordinary people, but ideological. After all, some people sincerely believe that Putin is irreplaceable and the Russian Federation has achieved unprecedented successes under him, while others, on the contrary, see a profound economic and mental crisis. Indeed, not to fight now? For example, I already openly and openly say that I will leave in the summer, if a miracle does not happen, in November I even took out some of my things. I'm really afraid to be here ((((
  33. the most important
    the most important 30 March 2021 22: 57
    +20
    Quote: hirurg
    My wife's relatives live in prosperous Finland. Now guess where they are going to be treated? And it is paid! There is no insurance.
    Yes Yes. To us.

    They would go to a provincial clinic, and I advise you too. I was there today. The therapist has a coupon for an abdominal ultrasound only in the amount of 1 (ONE !!!!) per week !!! For all patients !!! The queue is already 15 weeks ahead !!! And this is one of the best clinics in the millionth city. In the rest, there are no coupons anywhere. Everything is only paid. And after covid, if you are lucky and survived, all chronic diseases become aggravated. There is a queue and remembers with a "kind word" all this optimization of medicine, optimizers and their henchmen.
  34. hirurg
    hirurg 30 March 2021 23: 03
    .
    Well, you see it in the CHI system.
    The system can't handle it.
    Connect your resource.
    Or do you think you will be kissed in the ass forever.
  35. the most important
    the most important 30 March 2021 23: 07
    +16
    Quote: hirurg
    So you

    It is very strange ... you make remarks to others that they turn to you, and you yourself follow in their footsteps ...
    Quote: hirurg
    Well, not you, but you.
    I do not feed sheep with you.

    I, too, had no honor to feed sheep with you.
  36. hirurg
    hirurg 30 March 2021 23: 14
    -8
    Sorry for my words. I thought I would help you with something. But you did not understand me. Sorry again
    Sincerely.
  37. the most important
    the most important 30 March 2021 23: 27
    +10
    Quote: hirurg
    With respect.

    Nevermind... drinks Everyone has their own view from their own bell tower. You see an ideal hospital, and we are just the remnants of the Soviet legacy. This is a sore subject for me. After going to the hospital, my parents were never discharged from it. My father died quite recently ... In the intensive care unit, only a duck for 9 people was available from the equipment. And a rabid doctor who has several dozen seriously ill patients. I brought the medication to get out of the coma myself. The doctors did not say anything about their necessity. I got out of the coma ... but it was too late. Although he himself came on his own feet for treatment ..
  38. hirurg
    hirurg 30 March 2021 23: 44
    +1
    I go to work every day and do my job.
    I'm at the clinic.
    My task is to identify at an early stage.
    My condolences.
  39. Nikza
    Nikza 31 March 2021 11: 52
    0
    He lay with a fracture in a regional hospital in a large town. I probably gave a little money, since the doctor overexposed me in a cast and on crutches for 2 extra months, as I later learned in my city from another doctor. It all came together a long time ago. As a result, complications. Although he did an excellent operation. And you know, I even forgave him, you fool. He has 2 floors of old women, yes with non-healing fractures, and two operations a day. A cool guy is like a squirrel in a wheel alone. If Che, then who will treat the attendants ???
  40. Grandfather
    Grandfather 31 March 2021 05: 42
    +3
    millionaire ... you would go to our district ... 30 thousand people, the hospital is a complete ass ...
  41. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 12: 45
    0
    Quote: Dead Day
    millionaire ... you would go to our district ... 30 thousand people, the hospital is a complete ass ...

    Grandpa, you haven't seen ours yet. 120 thousand population and the worst hospital in the Tula region. Nurses bale living people with an ax in the head. Death.
  42. VORON538
    VORON538 31 March 2021 13: 05
    +1
    Mordvin 3 (Vladimir)
    Today, 12: 45

    Nurses bale living people with an ax in the head. Death. (C)
    They bale with an ax and not only on the head all over the world several psychos a day, let's say. And you have a nurse bale once a day, with an ax or what else is on hand? Or is it several nurses with axes? Or once a week? Or was it once , I found hysterical, where they are not, tell me? In the army, here are fools shooting, in civilian life around the corner a brick in the head. It smells of another gossip, although before the Mordvin did not look like a gossip ... Bring proof to a group of nurses with axes, which each day "bale" with an ax on the head!
  43. sleeve
    sleeve 30 March 2021 20: 59
    -9
    But the swami agrees. And about 100 years, and even I would say more broadly, generally did not live better ...
  44. poquello
    poquello 30 March 2021 21: 55
    +5
    Quote: sleeve
    But the swami agrees. And about 100 years, and even I would say more broadly, generally did not live better ...

    what life is without a mobile phone
  45. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 04: 14
    +2
    What a simplistic and meaningless comment. Did you write from your mobile phone?)
  46. poquello
    poquello 31 March 2021 13: 47
    +1
    Quote: poquello
    what life is without a mobile phone

    Quote: sleeve
    What a simplistic and meaningless comment. Did you write from your mobile phone?)

    I confess, I confess, I confess, on such a meaningful comment
    Quote: sleeve
    But the swami agrees. And about 100 years, and even I would say more broadly, generally did not live better ...

    it was necessary to expand and deepen
  47. Adimius38
    Adimius38 30 March 2021 21: 12
    +20
    You tell this to people who live further beyond the Moscow Ring Road. Especially in the Far East and Siberia. Tell them that they just live fabulous, I would listen wherever they send you laughing
  48. hirurg
    hirurg 30 March 2021 21: 30
    .
    Well, not you, but you.
    I do not feed sheep with you.
    And I lived in different places and have an idea.
    True, I have not been to the Far East.
    And he didn’t speak about fabulously.
    Therefore, voice the facts on your own.
  49. Intruder
    Intruder 31 March 2021 02: 36
    -1
    You tell this to people who live further beyond the Moscow Ring Road. Especially in the Far East and Siberia
    Personally, I have lived for almost forty years in the south of Siberia, in a small town with a population of up to 200 thousand people! I can, so nicely keep silent and not send on an erotic journey on foot .., the gloomy ethics of Siberians, of course !!! bully
  50. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 04: 15
    -3
    I live there. I work as a loader in a warehouse. I go from village to city for shifts. Let's come? Three four ....
  51. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 04: 16
    -3
    Let's laugh ... Let's laugh. And then this editor.
  52. VORON538
    VORON538 31 March 2021 13: 23
    0
    I live outside the Moscow Ring Road, in the Far East, in Blagoveshchensk. And I’ll tell you, even if I live no better than Muscovites in terms of the city's amenities, yes, the province, but I earn enough money to live here. Who can afford, they go there, where it is warmer. Some come back. And the main reason for moving is, though not the north, but the climate is quite harsh. For example, I am also considering options to go to a place where it is warm. I am considering either Crimea or Belgorod. hi
  53. Stas157
    Stas157 30 March 2021 21: 41
    +23
    Quote: hirurg
    I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE TSAR FOR UNLIMITED

    Well no. You don't want to change the current chaos by an order of magnitude.

    Quote: hirurg
    And in fact, Russians have never lived so well(over the past 100 years) as it is now.

    What? Is it with African salaries?

    This is what Kisel-TV does to the citizens.
  54. Malyuta
    Malyuta 30 March 2021 21: 58
    +5
    Quote: Stas157
    This is what Kisel-TV does to the citizens.

    Zombakov!
  55. hirurg
    hirurg 30 March 2021 22: 15
    .
    Come everybody. I'll give you SputnikV for free.
    Ek jars you from the truth.)))
    This is not the case in Ukraine.
  56. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 30 March 2021 23: 05
    +8
    This is not the case in Ukraine.
    On the Ukraine laughing Don't fire so hard winked
  57. Beringovsky
    Beringovsky 30 March 2021 23: 17
    +12
    This is where the surgeons inject vaccinations? Are you sure a surgeon?
  58. hirurg
    hirurg 30 March 2021 23: 20
    .
    I can also get vaccinated ...
    I can even operate with a teaspoon under water))
  59. Beringovsky
    Beringovsky 31 March 2021 00: 47
    +12
    Can you operate with the language? Don't answer, I see that you can ...
  60. Overlock
    Overlock 31 March 2021 11: 30
    +20
    Quote: hirurg
    I can also get vaccinated ...
    I can even operate with a teaspoon under water))

    Locksmith, or what?
  61. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 04: 08
    -2
    Quote: hirurg
    Come everybody. I'll give you SputnikV for free.
    Ek jars you from the truth.)))
    This is not the case in Ukraine.

    Is free? No, personally I will bypass you. I'd rather inject myself than turn to you.
  62. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 04: 24
    +5
    When there is no way to argue the position, they look for a compromise in the form of the opponent's inferiority. Well, it’s like “you don’t have a hand,” “you’re a Jew,” “you’re looking at a zombie box”. This, as it were, "explains" for themselves the disagreement with their position. Otherwise, discussion was needed and should be avoided. It is a sign of mass consciousness.
  63. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 04: 05
    -2
    Quote: Stas157
    What? Is it with African salaries?

    He's a surgeon, sort of. The mother told how her hand was treated. The surgeon hinted that he should be thanked. sad
  64. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 04: 19
    +4
    That’s what you don’t understand with other citizens what self-confidence does. No one told you that we live well. We live better than before, yes. Can we do better? We can and should. Well, now the output of your intellect. What can be changed for the better? How to do it? How long will that take? Who will perform? Here, no one is against the movement up and forward. Suggest. Or only denounces?
  65. VORON538
    VORON538 31 March 2021 13: 26
    0
    They have nothing to offer, they have nothing to do with their training manual, and they have nothing to offer except another civil war.
  66. DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 30 March 2021 21: 42
    +9
    Quote: hirurg
    In fact, Russians have never lived as well (over the past 100 years) as they do now.

    Apparently from such a good life and die out record.
    ~ "Blessed is he who ... is warm to him in the world."
  67. hirurg
    hirurg 30 March 2021 22: 36
    .
    Go and work. And do not sit on the couch poking your finger at everyone.))
    Or is it your job?
    So it will end soon. So, what is next?
    African sn?)))
  68. notingem
    notingem 30 March 2021 23: 42
    +15
    Andryusha, get off the couch and go to work. Do not have the habit of specifying what who should do under capitalism. Otherwise, you’ll go crazy with delusions of grandeur.
  69. notingem
    notingem 30 March 2021 23: 44
    +5
    You have been minus and you continue to be clever. Opportunist however
  70. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 04: 11
    -2
    Quote: hirurg
    So it will end soon. So, what is next?
    African sn?)))

    I’m wondering, do you really live on the same salary? Announce your salary, if not difficult.
  71. Overlock
    Overlock 31 March 2021 11: 33
    +19
    Question
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    I’m wondering, do you really live on the same salary?

    Response
    Quote: hirurg
    And to make it completely clear. Go and work in China.

    Summary
    Quote: notingem
    Another worker Balda.In China, obviously, Andryusha, no one needs you fucking

    Everything is fair
  72. Overlock
    Overlock 31 March 2021 11: 32
    +21
    Quote: hirurg
    Go and work.

    And how much do you officially receive a month, are you our multi-stationer?
  73. hirurg
    hirurg 30 March 2021 22: 57
    .
    And to make it completely clear. Go and work in China.
  74. notingem
    notingem 30 March 2021 23: 47
    +11
    Another worker Balda.In China, obviously, Andryusha, no one needs you fucking
  75. hirurg
    hirurg 30 March 2021 23: 52
    .
    But Baba Masha disagrees with you. And if you leave personal data, then you will not be hello.))
  76. Intruder
    Intruder 31 March 2021 02: 38
    +1
    And if you leave personal data, then you will not be hello.))
    And if you leave them! ??? wink Toda, maybe ...:
    then don't say hello to you
  77. Overlock
    Overlock 31 March 2021 11: 34
    +22
    Quote: hirurg
    And if you leave personal data, then you will not be hello.))

    Are we threatening? Fi!
  78. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 04: 31
    +3
    Oh how. Do you think this is the case? Can you imagine the birth rate somewhere in the center of Africa, in the hinterland of Tajikistan, or in the slums of Rio de Janeiro? If you have an assurance about the USSR, then I will ask you for statistics on the Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian population since 1980. It's not difficult. Take a census and compare the change in population ratios. Stop simplifying and "arguing" with slogans. This is a problem and a misfortune. There are only a bunch of "guilty" people in it, not just the Kremlin. He fights her as best he can. Do you help though)?
  79. _Sergei_
    _Sergei_ 31 March 2021 05: 25
    +3
    And how many children do you have, and if the children are adults, how many children do they have?
  80. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 31 March 2021 07: 43
    +2
    And why are the Japanese dying out? After all, they live well. There is no direct dependence. But the people of Somalia breed with great enthusiasm, and they do not care that there is no work, no salaries.
  81. Overlock
    Overlock 31 March 2021 11: 37
    +19
    Quote: Sergej1972
    But the inhabitants of Somalia breed with great enthusiasm, and they do not care that there is no work, no salaries.

    Are fertile because infant mortality is off the charts: 1 out of 65 newborns die
  82. Intruder
    Intruder 31 March 2021 02: 31
    +1
    I, past the 90s-Gobachev-Yeltsin.
    Received a free education.
    Working as a doctor ... getting a stable salary.
    I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE TSAR FOR UNLIMITED.
    And what's more, everyone I know takes the same position.
    Therefore, dissatisfaction with Putin is in your heads.
    Here, many have gone through the 90s and 00s in the Russian Federation to a heap, and not many have discontent, but simply facts that every day come to their eyes ... recourse
  83. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 04: 45
    +3
    I join. You need to butt with flaws. it is necessary simply. There is no average life on the surface. Somewhere they laugh, somewhere they steal, somewhere there is a fire. But to fight bedbugs, burning the house, because nothing else comes to mind?
  84. yang174
    yang174 31 March 2021 06: 11
    -2
    but how to fight it? through the elections?
    and with whom to fight? you (the masses) do not even want to think, but even read chitat.kazali jump power, you jump, but unhappy with life. mask mode is an example of this
  85. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 07: 20
    +3
    Don't you jump, but use the results of your jumps? I really respect people like you. If something is not me. It's bad, but I'm not to blame for everything. And you can only "fight" for the global, for power? How is Lenin? He did the same for the peasantry, and for everything else, he didn't care. He needed power, and that's it. Try to improve in your own neighborhood at the level of your strength. Or do they not exist at all? There is no intelligible deputy in place? So why didn't you fight? Why didn't you campaign? The system will not start up? And what you stand for will "let" everyone go? Or are you not advocating for anything? I don’t understand? Are you just "contra"?
  86. yang174
    yang174 31 March 2021 16: 37
    0
    pff. okay ... well, probably I'm to blame for the financial and economic policy of the state ... and probably I did not campaign for the right deputy (what would he strain the local authorities to do his job?) and I, by the way, are an idiot, you work, you earn - you pay, you don’t work, you don’t earn, you pay. so it’s not for you to judge by my comment about anything. I wrote my opinion about the people around me. for the most part, not literate and absolutely self-confident. but excluding criticism. to whom are you and I do not jump, I start to think and look for information, well, you jump up, why ... they will tell you to put a condom on your head so that everyone can see who (C).
  87. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 17: 31
    0
    Opa and personal "defects". To put something on your head ... I'm also self-confident. As for literacy, the same is not bad) But in general ... Do I deny your right to an opinion? Well, not a little bit. I am frankly interested in the content of this opinion no more. Do I use some "critical" forms of interest? It seems to me within the limits. But you in every possible way emphasize your "chosenness", they say you are just looking for, and adhere to the bright side, and here I (well, some other number of the population) are wandering in darkness and happy with ignorance. Yes, of course you are not to blame for the country's FEP. As well as the majority of humanity in relation to the world position. Why can't I judge from your comment? I don't have your theoretical works on politics, economics and public relations close at hand. So I draw conclusions based on the materials, but not even "conclusions", but, again, I ask you to expand your judgments in important details. But it’s not for me to judge, I’m "... for the most part, they are not literate and absolutely self-confident. But they exclude criticism in their address. To whom you yourself attributed." When did you take it? Oh yes, I expressed my opinion, which was different from yours, and therefore I quickly moved into the category, well, into this category. Well, it's okay, I think, for me, because you very accurately expressed in your "comment" your attitude to third-party "recommendations". In general, if you realistically described your life credo in terms of fighting for your candidate, and in general your activity does you credit. It's just that so far your platform of interests is losing the agenda, obviously due to the low demand. But there is nothing permanent in the world, perhaps you can still "trample with your boots" on people with different views. Well, something like that ... What do you pay for IP if the turnover is zero? Pure interest is nothing more. In fact, you delegated to yourself the possibility of non-wage labor? I am also wondering what is the "subscription" rate from the state today at zero turnovers? I myself was "oooshnik". I received fines without submitting reports. With zero staff, with regular reports with zero turnovers, I paid exclusively to the bank at the expense. Something has changed? Not required now, but you have aroused interest. Dig into the current rules of business.
  88. yang174
    yang174 31 March 2021 18: 33
    0
    once I wrote about the masks, I even erased my hands, or my hands out of ... in general, I just adhere to logic and consistency. but you were jittery to put on item # 2, but it didn't jar you to put on a mask. My platform of interests is immeasurable, I'm very interested a lot, on individual entrepreneurs it is stupid 5k with kopecks in the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation, social insurance and medical insurance.
  89. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 18: 54
    0
    Well, dear, what kind of childhood? Jarred, not jarred? Do you write on the fence? Well, even for provocation does not pull, she's hers. I don’t know how immeasurable it is, but that it is already good. Politeness there would also be a direct "social" platform will become. Maybe people will be drawn to her, otherwise you are too frivolously operating with offensive forms, and quite self-confident, although this is obvious from the material absence of the interlocutor, this is as if characteristic of the young generation of the Network almost everywhere. 5000 per year as I understand it or per month? It's just that I get my salary somewhere around 6 a month for the same needs, from the taxable part, and occupy the lower positions in the hierarchy of the company. Hmm, imputed tax? Well, as I understand it at zero speed? It is impossible to imagine that an individual entrepreneur will turn around under 60 million, earn well, at least 6 per year, and the loaders and cleaners will keep the owner on a pension with their own pennies?
    However, it doesn't matter anymore. All the best and I wish you success in defending your position. But, of course, it is better to do it while on the Web ... Better on the Web.
  90. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 31 March 2021 07: 57
    +3
    What's wrong with mask mode? I support him. For example, it is unpleasant for me to be on public transport next to people who do not follow it. In our region, this regime has not yet been canceled. By the way, hefty middle-aged men are almost all wearing masks when they are in public transport, in stores. Students for the most part also comply.
  91. yang174
    yang174 31 March 2021 16: 45
    +1
    and with the mask regime, it is not so, in violation of the constitution, your mask regime is adopted. Secondly, you support the ban on selling products to people, the mask regime causes this. what is there further on the list-house arrest or link? you do not have information, sales at the consumer level. do not remind me of the types of authorities and their powers? and at the same time the current laws concerning the freedoms of citizens? , I will not talk about your intellectual abilities. The same answer, put a condom on your head, they told you ...
    I live in Chelyabinsk. the governor adopted a decree on the mask regime. explain to me who the governor is, what would I do, what he tells me what to wear, what not to wear .. why should I still take off / put on? only give arguments, there what kind of laws are there
  92. sleeve
    sleeve 31 March 2021 17: 41
    0
    Oh, you shouldn't stand on the shaky bridge of legislative and enforcement practice. By God, the continuous appeal to the Constitution regarding the rights of citizens brings up the idea of ​​unwillingness to perceive duties as a factor. But this is the balance of the social contract. If, nevertheless, you undertake to protest and demand to confirm the argumentation with acts having the force of law, then you yourself will take the trouble to read the normative documents that form the basis of the events that cause your anger. As a rule, there is a complete justification and links to all relevant documents. And what about your protest against the mask regime? Well, you probably deny the pandemic itself, well, then you are in the WHO, and not in the Kremlin with a collision. However, since you are distrustful of local laws, then the world organizations did not "resist" to you with recommendations and decisions right, you need to keep your position. Do not give up! Morally I'm with you. Better at least some position than none at all)
  93. Pilot
    Pilot 31 March 2021 05: 41
    -2
    Quote: hirurg
    Consider me insane.
    I, past the 90s-Gobachev-Yeltsin.
    Received a free education.
    Working as a doctor ... getting a stable salary.
    I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE KING
    Well, nothing, it happens ... doctors also often get sick the same as patients ...
  94. Revival
    Revival 31 March 2021 16: 18
    0
    Okay, your request has been granted, we will consider
  95. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 1 2021 08: 59
    -1
    Working as a doctor ... getting a stable salary.
    I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE TSAR FOR UNLIMITED.

    You get a stable salary only because state employees have been feeding off all this time at the expense of oil prices, but times are changing, the Russian Federation is getting into debt and soon you will work not for a stable salary, but for an idea. Then I will believe that you truly love your "king".
    My wife's relatives live in prosperous Finland. Now guess where they are going to be treated? And it is paid! There is no insurance.

    I dare to assume that this is not a matter of lack of insurance, but a reluctance to spend on it
  • sleeve
    sleeve 30 March 2021 20: 58
    +2
    Among whom are you afraid to pass for the insane? People like you are already within the acceptable 10%. The rest are at work.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 30 March 2021 20: 11
    +3
    Reduced fees and greatly. I've been interrupting from bread to water. No strength left with such "serious resistance" as you fight. ))) You yourself have to come up with everything here, tell about everything and assign yourself a victory. Everything is simple there: the rating is falling (this is easy to remember, he has been doing this since 2007), Putin's friends have stolen everything (they appeared at about the same time and got rich at once) and elections were bought everywhere and for a long time (here without any time limit and even without Putin). Well. Build everything around this and it will be fine. And the main thing is to use putinbots and kremlebots more often. Let's not forget. And then somehow it is not in trend. All intelligent people are obliged to resist, the rest are not intellectuals ... you really don't let the layer down)
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 30 March 2021 20: 21
      -7
      Quote: sleeve
      Reduced fees and greatly. I've been interrupting from bread to water. No strength left with such "serious resistance" as you fight.

      + + +
      are you not too cocky with them?
      will trample
      1. sleeve
        sleeve 30 March 2021 20: 57
        .
        Yes, let it go. All these "carnivals" with "correct builders of the state" are not my field. I'm on the site for a different reason. So I will not be upset. This childish scribbling just hurts the eyes for one thing and that is why. Of course, I understand that to smear shit on the authorities is an old, age-old tradition, and this is the "subtlety of the soul", but I want to talk about business. And then solid Zasulich rubbed with antisatrapin. And without the continuation of thought in time. So it's not a pity.
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 30 March 2021 21: 03
        -7
        It's a pleasure to read.
        These clumsy poster comments rubbed my eyes.
        Quote: sleeve
        It's just that this children's scribble is already cutting the eyes, and that's why

        But this infantilism is noticed by one out of five. And even less.
      3. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 30 March 2021 23: 43
        +4
        And not childish, how is it? How is it in Khabarovsk? How was it in Belarus last summer? Or like in Ukraine in 2014? Are you waiting for a non-childish conversation? wink
        Well, well, wait ...
      4. Pensive Lawyer
        Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 01: 17
        +3
        Go ahead, get into serious conversations, but all at once
      5. Serg65
        Serg65 31 March 2021 13: 31
        +5
        Quote: Beringovsky
        Well, well, wait ...

        Expand, my friend, your thought in more detail ?!
  • Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 30 March 2021 21: 25
    +2
    Especially the Bolt Cutter. Immediately carried some garbage
    It's up to you - especially about British gays wassat
  • lucul
    lucul 30 March 2021 22: 06
    -3
    Hello Friend! Now turboputriots will tell us about the rallying of 146% of the inhabitants around the circle of a friend's circle.

    And what to tell?
    Do you recognize the woman in the photo?

    The one that is taller and with beads.

    Deputy of the State Duma from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation of the second, third, fourth and fifth convocations Ostanina N.A. in the 2018 presidential elections, she was the confidant of the presidential candidate P.N. Grudinin.
    It is in the "Communist Party and the World" section that an article by Kommersant about the meeting of representatives of the Russian opposition with US Vice President Joseph Biden in 2011 was reprinted.
    "Mrs. Ostanina, whom Mr. Biden asked about the opposition's chances in the elections, replied that" the basic principles of competition are not being held, "backing up the answer with examples about unequal access to the media and numerous violations at the elections, including by United Russia ".
    "I presented the US Vice President with a special issue of the Pravda newspaper with the questions of our popular referendum, and Mr. Biden told me: "When I came to the USSR in the 70s, did I think that someday I would support the communists and wish you victory ..."
    1. your1970
      your1970 30 March 2021 23: 51
      +6
      Quote: lucul
      and Mr. Biden told me: "When I came to the USSR in the 70s, did I think that someday I will support the Communists and wish you victory ..."
      - well if CAM Biden said that he would support the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - the Khan of the Communist Party ...
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 31 March 2021 11: 36
      +1
      Quote: lucul
      Do you recognize the woman in the photo?

      Do you recognize the man in the photo?

      This is with a balobol (put it mildly).

      This is the traitor's annual mark.
      This is he with his owners. wink
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 31 March 2021 13: 49
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        This is he with his owners.

        what Well, he does not shout at all corners ... Freedom for the priest .... sorry ... to the working people! All power to the Soviets! And that kind of nonsense ... for example, like the same Rashkin! Igor, I have long wanted to ask ... how does your monarchist conviction combine with the struggle for communism?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 31 March 2021 14: 08
          +2
          Quote: Serg65
          Well he doesn't scream at all angles

          She and so with him, and with his owners. request
          Quote: Serg65
          countrywoman ROSS 42, he somehow does not like to talk about her

          Let's compare the percentage of thieves in the Communist Party and the United Russia? wink
          Quote: Serg65
          Igor, I have long wanted to ask ... how does your monarchist conviction combine with the struggle for communism?

          Combines well. Normal monarchists (unlike Olgovich) see that the country is quietly being destroyed. And the only force that can reverse this process in the near foreseeable future is the communists. And that is why I will help them in every possible way.
        2. Serg65
          Serg65 31 March 2021 15: 05
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          She and so with him, and with his owners.

          Only the owners are somehow dissatisfied, they even call it a murderer ...
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Let's compare the percentage of thieves in the Communist Party and the United Russia?

          A priori, a communist cannot be a thief! Or is he not a communist then!
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Normal monarchists (unlike Olgovich) see that the country is quietly destroyed

          Compared to what period in the life of this very country?
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And the only force that can reverse this process in the near foreseeable future is the communists.

          what And here it is desirable in more detail! How and in what way can the communists improve the well-being of the people in the near future? Why are they not improving now, having received their own governors?
        3. andrew42
          andrew42 April 1 2021 14: 02
          +1
          A very sensible position. It is necessary that the conditional "Kappel" and "Chapaev" stand in one line. But this requires a new conceptual system of values ​​and, as a consequence, a new ideological manual. Otherwise, we will hang in an infinite recursion on the very iteration of the Civil War, which has already gotten completely out of it. Socialism is Life, and capitalism (more precisely, the current Russian fiscal feudalism) is Death, as they say "to our entire tribe." Figuratively speaking, the paraphrase of Gavrila Oleksich's speech from the film "Alexander Nevsky: But how Putin will drive the Russian people, and how we clamp down between the West and China, then we will cry" is appropriate.
        4. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 1 2021 17: 40
          +1
          Quote: andrew42
          which is already completely enough.

          Yes, Andrei, it's enough. How much you can whine about the Russia that we have lost - it will not be returned, no matter how you assess the events of 1917. But in nagging and counting civil war victims, it's easy to lose that Russia. which we still have. Take Olgovich, for example - he constantly denounces the Bolsheviks / Communists in the collapse of the empire and in the genocide of the Russian people, but at the same time fully supports the current government, embodying Hitler's plan "Ost", and leading a systematic, unhurried genocide today. This is a treacherous position, akin to that of Vlasov. hi
        5. andrew42
          andrew42 April 2 2021 13: 11
          +1
          I agree. In general, I believe that despite the multimillion-dollar losses in the 20th century, by and large Russia was lucky with the communists. The anti-Russian charge of the first revolutionary ideologists came to naught as a result of the Stalinist-Brezhnev zigzag. A huge, terrible price was paid for this. All the more offensive is the shameful surrender of the State of the Working People to the clutches of planetary world-eaters in 1991, insidiously carried out by the shape-shifters who were not shot during the time.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 31 March 2021 13: 44
    +5
    Quote: lucul
    Do you recognize the woman in the photo?

    what there are 9 of them, which one?
    Quote: lucul
    Ostanina N.A.

    laughing Ahh, this one? A noble thief, countrywoman ROSS 42, he somehow does not like to talk about her recourse
    Quote: lucul
    "When I came to the USSR in the 70s, did I think that someday I would support the communists and wish you victory ..."

    Burned my aunt, old devil! lol
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 31 March 2021 08: 16
    -2
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: Alf
    Tell the residents of Primorye about these elections, when the candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation who won the election was simply and brazenly removed.

    Hello Friend! Now turboputriots will tell us about the rallying of 146% of the inhabitants around the circle of a friend's circle.

    Tell us about the rallying of true (Here, you for example !!) patriots around WHAT? I want to know what you want! In addition to dissatisfaction with Putin, the current government, time. I want to understand -What do you want !? What are you fighting for ...? And then only pitinoids, and other shit ... So teenage shit.
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 31 March 2021 08: 53
      0
      In addition to the minus, there is nothing to answer? Understood, the main thing is to find fault, scold, whine, shout, sprinkle ashes on your head .. WHAT DO YOU WANT? What can you offer the country? You can answer either minus and sniffing into the rat's hole!
  • sleeve
    sleeve 30 March 2021 20: 01
    0
    Memes and rumors. Here is our info base. You read about the candidate in Primorye only where there is "brazenly removed"?
  • Flooding
    Flooding 30 March 2021 18: 37
    -3
    Quote: purple
    Say nonsense ... I'm ashamed of you

    + + +
    leave empty
    if a person is not ashamed
    then the point to be ashamed of him
    this is the Achilles heel of overly conscientious people
    we must fight our weaknesses))
  • 210ox
    210ox 30 March 2021 18: 38
    +12
    Here is the Krasnodar Territory. They scolded Kondratyev and who was not lazy. And he got more percent in the elections than V. Putin. Awesome transparent.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 09
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      They scolded Kondratyev and who was not too lazy. And he won more percent in the elections than V. Putin. Awesome transparent.

      The question is different! How Many Millions Home Cash? laughing
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 30 March 2021 21: 19
        -7
        Facts, gentlemen, facts. Otherwise, libel. And libel is not a criminal article.)))
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 30 March 2021 21: 30
          -4
          Quote: hirurg
          Facts, gentlemen, facts.

          Is this about Belozertsev? Or about the deputy. the head of customs, who found $ 100 million under the floor of his house and 18! tons! gold !?
          1. hirurg
            hirurg 30 March 2021 21: 35
            -8
            And, they do not find it, it's bad. Found and voiced, too bad!
            WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT?
            Che tryndit just like that?
            Whining, whining?
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 30 March 2021 21: 40
              +1
              Quote: hirurg
              And, they do not find it, it's bad.

              It is bad that they find LITTLE and it is bad that LOT is found among those who are under the FSB's cap
            2. Serg65
              Serg65 31 March 2021 13: 52
              +4
              Quote: Silvestr
              LITTLE are found among those who are under the hood of the FSB

              I agree that the FSB will continue to grow and grow before the SBU!
        2. your1970
          your1970 30 March 2021 23: 53
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          Or about the deputy. the head of customs, who found $ 100 million under the floor of his house and 18! tons! gold !?

          well, you at least see it yourself - this video ... you at least once OPERA saw barefoot on the search ????
        3. clerk
          clerk 31 March 2021 10: 32
          +3
          Or about the deputy. the head of customs, who found $ 100 million under the floor of his house and 18! tons! gold!?.
          This news did not pass on any serious news resource. Crazy fake.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 March 2021 11: 38
            -2
            Quote: clerk
            Crazy fake.

            Is that why the data was classified? wink
          2. clerk
            clerk 31 March 2021 12: 20
            +2
            Crazy fake.

            Is that why the data was classified? ...
            What is there to keep secret - a seal “for packages” on a container allegedly with gold for 72 million rubles (one 15 kg ingot). For 18 tons of gold, there should be 1200 such bars, and not the fifty pieces shown to us. Not to mention the fact that a sane operative will not defiantly open bank packages of money under the camera.laughing
  • New Year day
    New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 17
    -2
    Quote: purple
    Take an interest in the question on the last governor elections, for example

    Asked laughing it would be better not to advise laughing

    So how many not from the EP?
    Accident or pattern?
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 30 March 2021 19: 38
      0
      Quote: Silvestr
      So how many not from the EP?
      Accident or pattern?

      Shame

      Results of elections of heads of regions of Russia
      Direct elections of governors were held in 18 subjects Russian Federation 13 September

      more details at https://ria.ru/20200913/vybory-1577106249.html

      At eighteen in total!
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 44
        -7
        Quote: Flood
        At eighteen in total!

        See the map, how many of them are from the EP! Around the country! Total! Or do not believe your eyes
        Quote: Flood
        Shame
        1. poquello
          poquello 30 March 2021 19: 55
          -9
          Quote: Silvestr
          See the map, how many of them are from the EP!

          no need to do a smart face, grandmothers voted and will vote for EP
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 57
            -4
            Quote: poquello
            no need to do a smart face, grandmothers voted and will vote for EP

            What difference does it make if the result is predictable and achieved?
            1. poquello
              poquello 30 March 2021 20: 12
              -8
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: poquello
              no need to do a smart face, grandmothers voted and will vote for EP

              What difference does it make if the result is predictable and achieved?

              the difference in the explanation of the reasons, this is not an insidious conspiracy, this is a given, would anyone like it or not
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 30 March 2021 20: 22
              +2
              Quote: poquello
              the difference in the explanation of the reasons, this is not an insidious conspiracy, this is a given, would anyone like it or not

              You want to say that the old ladies are to blame for everything and there is no administrative resource! Laughter!
            3. poquello
              poquello 30 March 2021 20: 37
              -7
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: poquello
              the difference in the explanation of the reasons, this is not an insidious conspiracy, this is a given, would anyone like it or not

              You want to say that the old ladies are to blame for everything and there is no administrative resource! Laughter!

              that's exactly what I'm saying, laughter is to blame the administrative resource
            4. New Year day
              New Year day 30 March 2021 20: 47
              +5
              Quote: poquello
              that's exactly what I'm saying, laughter is to blame the administrative resource

              Thank God! Although the old women are to blame, they usually blame the Polovtsy and the Pechenegs for everything.
            5. poquello
              poquello 30 March 2021 21: 00
              .
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: poquello
              that's exactly what I'm saying, laughter is to blame the administrative resource

              Thank God! Although the old women are to blame, they usually blame the Polovtsy and the Pechenegs for everything.

              yes, in general, I am purple, all parties need to work with the electorate, and not to jump after the bulk
            6. New Year day
              New Year day 30 March 2021 21: 33
              +3
              Quote: poquello
              and not for bulk

              Navalny is the Kremlin's out-of-control man. Maybe remember how in 2013 United Russia collected 110 signatures of municipal deputies for him to participate in the election of the mayor of Moscow.
            7. poquello
              poquello 30 March 2021 21: 43
              -6
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: poquello
              and not for bulk

              Navalny is the Kremlin's out-of-control man. Maybe remember how in 2013 United Russia collected 110 signatures of municipal deputies for him to participate in the election of the mayor of Moscow.

              I was not interested, I looked, you say something wrong, it was as if they threw a bone at him - on, gnaw, participate, let's see what you pick up against Sobyanin
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 30 March 2021 21: 55
    .
    Quote: poquello
    grandmothers voted and will vote for EP

    Yes, grandmothers do not go to vote.
    And their grandfathers do not go.
    There is someone to vote for them. hi
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 31 March 2021 08: 24
      +7
      No, the elderly are more active in this regard. This can be seen with the naked eye when you come to the polling station.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 31 March 2021 11: 36
      -2
      Quote: Sergej1972
      the elderly are more active in this regard. This can be seen with the naked eye when you come to the polling station.

      The situation in megalopolises and outback is completely different.
      In the outback, there is a widespread position: "nothing depends on me."
      The naked eye is deceiving.
      It is enough to ask the elderly people who came to the polling station whether many of their acquaintances of the same age also went to vote. Well, or just ask around, talk.
    3. VORON538
      VORON538 31 March 2021 13: 37
      0
      More than half of my entrance is elderly people, and they all go to ANY elections, even my neighbor, who is under 80, and she votes for Putin. hiPensioners are more responsible than bad youngsters, who can only ride like a deer lol
  • Flooding
    Flooding 30 March 2021 20: 17
    -1
    It was about the last gubernatorial elections.
    So look at how many regions where the governor was elected in September, the United Russia won.
    Quote: purple
    Take an interest in the question on the last governor elections, for example
  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 1 2021 08: 42
    -2
    146% what are you talking about?

    Apparently, you are a young man who has recently reached the age of majority, so you cannot remember how during the elections to the State Duma in the late 60s (I may be wrong, but that’s not the point), on election day, state channels showed the percentages of votes won by the parties. Roughly speaking, 30% for the United Russia, there are 15% of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, 2% of the Liberal Democratic Party, 146% of "everyone ..."
    You can easily find both screenshots and the video itself on YouTube.
  • Private89
    Private89 30 March 2021 20: 26
    +17
    The best rallying: this is the pension reform and 17 thousand rubles. middle class. It rallies very much around the authorities. Here the enemies do not even have to try, this government will do everything itself.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 08
    +16
    Quote: purple
    We have transparent elections, and it is likely that the EP will be in for a surprise

    laughing laughing laughing
    So transparent that Belozertsev was arrested six months after the successful elections with a score of 78,72%, and 500 million rubles in cash in his apartment. But such figures are under the FSB cap! Tolley's cap was worn out, or did he steal it after the elections?request So I'm wondering about this dilemma laughing
    1. A_Mazkov
      A_Mazkov 30 March 2021 19: 59
      +3
      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: purple
      We have transparent elections, and it is likely that the EP will be in for a surprise

      laughing laughing laughing But such figures are under the FSB cap! Tolley's cap was worn out, or did he steal it after the elections?request So I'm wondering about this dilemma laughing

      Yes, most likely he was screwed up, and with whom he did not need to share.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 30 March 2021 20: 09
        -3
        Quote: A_Mazkov
        Yes, most likely he was screwed up, and with whom he did not need to share.

        Or as a sacrificial lamb, because the fight against corruption should be
  • Svarog
    Svarog 30 March 2021 19: 17
    +5
    Quote: purple
    We have transparent elections

    Who do you have it? United Russia?
    1. poquello
      poquello 30 March 2021 20: 15
      -8
      Quote: Svarog
      Quote: purple
      We have transparent elections

      Who do you have it? United Russia?

      this is in Russia, you have sorcerers from the United Russia - no one forbade observers, unlike the elections in the United States
      1. Antidote
        Antidote 31 March 2021 10: 56
        0
        Observers were de facto banned by multi-day "voting"
        1. poquello
          poquello 31 March 2021 13: 48
          0
          Quote: Antidote
          Observers were de facto banned by multi-day "voting"

          how?
          1. Antidote
            Antidote 31 March 2021 14: 03
            0
            The fact that the sites are closed at night, and what happens to the trash can is anyone's guess?
            1. poquello
              poquello 31 March 2021 15: 38
              0
              Quote: Antidote
              The fact that the sites are closed at night, and what happens to the trash can is anyone's guess?

              you can put your security on at night, I think no one will refuse), but seriously - everything should be sealed under the supervision of observers, I remind you that it is not enough to throw in ballots so that the lists coincide with the number
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 30 March 2021 20: 18
    +3
    Quote: purple
    We have transparent elections

    Oh....
    Laughing out loud.
    146% in the elections, remember?
    Yes, it was "transparency", but conclusions have already been drawn from that situation.
    1. poquello
      poquello 30 March 2021 20: 54
      -5
      Quote: DED_peer_DED
      146% in the elections, remember?

      I don't remember, but I just read it, explained by the provocation of a TV employee, only you didn't deign to say something about it
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 30 March 2021 21: 54
        -1
        I will repeat what I wrote above, for you specifically -
        after the Second Election of Eltsin. After which the main programmer of the Central Election Commission, after (it seems) 3 months, was hit to death by a car in Moscow.
        Oh, well, yes. No problem.

        Let's talk more about honesty, or a paragraph?
        1. poquello
          poquello 30 March 2021 23: 45
          -4
          Quote: DED_peer_DED
          I will repeat what I wrote above, for you specifically -
          after the Second Election of Eltsin. After which the main programmer of the Central Election Commission, after (it seems) 3 months, was hit to death by a car in Moscow.
          Oh, well, yes. No problem.

          Let's talk more about honesty, or a paragraph?

          your honesty is very similar to nonsense, at least for now.
          inspires creativity
          "The vengeance of the mafia was inevitable,
          He choked on an orange every other day in public. "
          but not more
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 31 March 2021 00: 02
            +1
            My honesty is my conscience.
            Oh, yours ... apparently sold for money, or not?

            Span is not counted under "oranges". Not a candle for God, not a damn poker.
            1. poquello
              poquello 31 March 2021 00: 14
              -2
              Quote: DED_peer_DED
              Span is not counted under "oranges".

              why show that beard?
              the programmer then what could decide there? )))))
              Korzhakov saw a box from a copier, but he still seems to be alive.)))))))))))))))
              1. DED_peer_DED
                DED_peer_DED 31 March 2021 00: 18
                -1
                the programmer then what could decide there?

                There the fact is that all elections (Eltsin for the second term) were decided within one computer.
                I say no, the computer (programmer) says yes.
                That's all those "choices".

                But "tovagisch" and died. I didn’t calculate my strength, "..you understand ..."
                Basically . I should have understood.
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 31 March 2021 02: 45
                  0
                  I had to UNDERSTAND.
                  And this is always good for health (UNDERSTANDING fellow ) and even more so in such a job, and if a person and an employee - ..., then life is short and tragic - for this fool !!! wink
  • iouris
    iouris 30 March 2021 21: 10
    -6
    Quote: purple
    We have transparent elections

    and transparent results.
  • Grandfather
    Grandfather 31 March 2021 05: 41
    -2
    Quote: purple
    We have transparent elections, and it is likely that the EP will be in for a surprise

    so "transparent" that they are not visible.
  • Revival
    Revival 31 March 2021 16: 10
    0
    You apparently sealed yourself with one letter in the word, O and I confused
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 30 March 2021 18: 59
    +7
    Quote: AUL
    Was it planned otherwise?

    Comrade, maybe they were planning, but personally, as I did not rally around a friend of friends, I will not rally. He is my class enemy and will NEVER be mine for me!
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 30 March 2021 19: 01
    +4
    In general, the influence of Biden's words on Russian society is insignificant. Even though he praises, even scolds ... Our president and I more or less understand the situation - both opponents and supporters!

    But they, our "partners", do not quite understand.
    On the one hand, they are singing about the imminent collapse of the regime, our sweat-eyed grant-eating opposition. On the other hand, they measure us with their yardstick, and this measure is not the right system for us (in damned feet and inches wink ), does not work.

    Cohesion against the background of Biden in our country is possible against the background of his personal weakness and the growing weakness of his state, since we are finally beginning to see the "decline of the dollar era", "decay of the West."
    That is, there is hope that the strategy of calm, non-aggressive maneuvering of the past years under the leadership of our president is bringing success, that we need to calmly substitute import, build our own financial instruments ... While we can.
    In 1940, they also did not know the exact date of the start of the war, but they were preparing with all their might! And they prepared something quite successfully, and somewhere they failed the tasks.

    That is, the hegemony of one country is coming to an end, and the emerging historical chances are encouraging the rest of the participants in the new redivision of the world. We have potentially good strategic positions, so trust is growing.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 March 2021 22: 10
      -1
      Quote: RealPilot
      We have potentially good strategic positions, so trust is growing.

      Faith in the future of Russia is growing, not confidence in the bourgeois elite.
      Don't be confused. hi
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 30 March 2021 22: 13
        +3
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        Faith in the future of Russia is growing, not confidence in the bourgeois elite.
        Don't be confused.

        You, too, do not confuse the Motherland with its current owners.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 30 March 2021 22: 27
          +2
          Quote: DED_peer_DED
          You, too, do not confuse the Motherland with its current owners.

          Just do not confuse. hi
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 30 March 2021 22: 29
            -2
            And that's right, comrades ... smile
  • Svarog
    Svarog 30 March 2021 19: 16
    +10
    Quote: Orkraider
    As a number of people BB scolded, so those same will continue to persuade him.

    The ranks of these people are multiplying and after the pension reform, I have not met a single person who would support Putin. Well, I don't even have to talk about Edre ... then I can't even imagine the level of thought of a person who is ready to vote for Edimrossiyu.
    1. poquello
      poquello 30 March 2021 20: 21
      .
      Quote: Svarog
      I have not met a single person who would support Putin.

      it's difficult when you stand in front of a mirror, I support Putin and I will, because there is no one and no time
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      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 30 March 2021 22: 15
        0
        Quote: poquello
        for there is no one and no time

        You believe in God. I'll say to myself, it's easier, cheaper, and no ongoing deception.
      3. Pensive Lawyer
        Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 01: 28
        +3
        Likewise, although in many respects I disagree with domestic politics.
        What the opposition offers is a complete game. There are a lot of slogans, but how to implement them, there is not even a hint of a plan.
        No, Putin is better than a rude journalist who does not understand a single iota in politics and economics, with a team of bloggers and an electorate of 14-year-olds.
    2. clerk
      clerk 31 March 2021 14: 36
      +1
      ... The ranks of these people are multiplying and after the pension reform, I have not met a single person who would support Putin. Well, I don't even have to talk about Edre ... then I can't even imagine the level of thought of a person who is ready to vote for Edimrossiyu.
      1) Try to temporarily change your social circle - perhaps you will learn a lot of new things, including about Putin's support. 2) In Russia, since the days of the Decembrists, it has been considered almost indecent to speak out in support of the current government. At best, they will remain silent or give a little assent, turning the conversation to the topic of dissatisfaction with something specific. 3) The problem is that the rest of the games are even worse.
  • Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible 30 March 2021 19: 47
    +7
    "A living example is our VO"


    Your VO is an example of how you can, having the Internet and exchange rate stability (idea) rub it in your "drinking buddies" forum users. For a moment! The majority of the population are "non-drinkers". Do you understand what I mean?
  • Adimius38
    Adimius38 30 March 2021 21: 07
    +5
    nothing has changed and will not change, as prices gained the first cosmic speed and continue to gain, as fairy tales have been told and will continue to be told.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 March 2021 22: 16
      +1
      Quote: Adimius38
      as fairy tales were told and will continue to tell.

      Yes, all fairy tales are somehow flawed - everything about galoshes except for which the USSR supposedly did nothing.
  • iouris
    iouris 30 March 2021 21: 23
    -4
    Quote: Orkraider
    As a number of people BB scolded, so those same will continue to persuade him.

    Fortunately, nothing depends on them.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 31 March 2021 01: 16
      -2
      Quote: iouris
      Fortunately, nothing depends on them.

      Do you want to say that these people should not go to the polls - everything is decided for them?
  • Alien From
    Alien From 30 March 2021 18: 10
    +5
    The mattresses themselves will soon realize - Biden, here's a mistake so a mistake.
    1. loki565
      loki565 30 March 2021 18: 31
      +5
      The main thing is to avoid stairs and everything will be normal)))
      1. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 30 March 2021 18: 51
        +7
        Quote: loki565
        The main thing is to avoid stairs and everything will be normal)))

        And don't open your mouth. Better to sit with a smart look and shake his head. Psaki will then tell everyone what he meant.
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 30 March 2021 22: 19
          +5
          "They say that Putin has a double ..."
          This is a blatant lie ...
          He has had a timing extension tee for a long time.
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 30 March 2021 18: 58
        +6
        laughing Yeah. Create a sea-level habitat for the old man. Let it exist in an absolutely horizontal world.
    2. NIKN
      NIKN 30 March 2021 18: 31
      +6
      and a wave of anti-Putin protests swept across Russian cities,
      By whose efforts? And so they did not try and Biden did all the efforts down the drain.
  • Sergey985
    Sergey985 30 March 2021 18: 12
    +2
    In turn, I hasten to express my sympathy to American citizens about the state of their president ...
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 30 March 2021 19: 00
      +1
      winked Sympathy is good, only after a couple of years you will see it’s time to express condolences.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 21
        +5
        Quote: Captive
        Sympathy is good, only after a couple of years you will see it’s time to express condolences.

        I would not be in a hurry! There are no delays in visiting God! Nobody knows when or whose turn it will be
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 18: 14
    +6
    So the president is kind of like a self-nominated candidate. Or am I confusing something?
    What does EP have to do with it? ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 30 March 2021 18: 31
      +8
      Quote: Benzorez
      So the president is kind of like a self-nominated candidate. Or am I confusing something?
      What does EP have to do with it? ...

      United Russia, as soon as it became known about Putin's self-nomination, declared his full support. Such a statement can only indicate that the goals of Putin and United Russia are absolutely the same. The goals of the EP are "development" and "modernization" of the country. The "results" of this are visible to the naked eye. Then what are Putin's goals?
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 18: 38
        +5
        EP has the right (in theory) to declare my full support. It would be very helpful.
        However, this does not mean that I have anything to do with her.
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 19: 00
          +4
          I, in general and in general, understand. What are you talking about.
          I also understand that the president is trying (at least trying) to establish a kind of acceptable life for the majority of his fellow citizens in the country.
          I also understand that they are categorically hindered in this.
          Since having worked in different places and organizations a hundred times I was convinced: Here, everyone (well, after one) - starting from the position of foreman / foreman - begins to "rat" on his pocket.
          This is unpleasant, but true.
          What can the president, with all his good intentions, do in such a situation?
          And by the way about the "birds"!
          I asked three hundred races one question-Putin GET!
          Candidates? Apart from demagoguery, I have never heard anything sane. hi
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 30 March 2021 19: 22
            +7
            Quote: Benzorez
            I also understand that the president is trying (at least trying) to establish a kind of acceptable life for the majority of his fellow citizens in the country.

            That's interesting .. for the majority, he can't get it right .. only his friends are doing well .. maybe he is still not trying for the majority?
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 23
            +4
            Quote: Benzorez
            he is categorically hindered in this.

            Who?!! Ministers appointed by him? Have 20 years been getting in the way? Completeness! Or is he blind / deaf?
            1. Petrol cutter
              Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 19: 39
              -5
              "Who? !! The ministers appointed by him? They have been hindering for 20 years like this? Completeness! Or is he blind / deaf?"
              Forgive God. I just reported ...
              Some kind of conversation between the dumb and the deaf ...
              Everyone steals! The one from the construction site is a bag / well, four-rested. This is a couple / three of cutters for two thousand from the factory. And this is probably money. And probably they were included in the estimate ?! And probably now we have nothing to work with ?! And now they probably need to be purchased on a new basis?!. And where is Zin's money ?! request
              And this is the norm of life!
              And Vladimir is to blame ...
              1. Private89
                Private89 30 March 2021 21: 08
                -4
                Everyone steals!

                If we think about people, about "human nature", then we should think in this way: we recognize that people live in society and that their human nature cannot be independent of their life in society, but, on the contrary, develops and changes with development of society. In this case, we will create ideas about human nature that correspond to the actual conditions of human existence and their change and development. However, very often people think about "human nature" in a completely different way. Namely, as if there is some kind of "human nature" that manifests itself completely independently of the actual conditions of human existence and always and everywhere remains exactly the same. To think in this way is certainly to create a false, misleading abstraction. And now, it is precisely this abstract way of thinking that is called metaphysical.

                Metaphysics, or metaphysical way of thinking, is,
                hence, a way of thinking that thinks things 1) abstracting from the conditions of their existence and 2) abstracting from their change and development.

                For example, a lot has been said and written about democracy. But orators and writers usually have in mind some kind of pure, or abstract, democracy, which they try to define, abstracting from the actual development of society, classes and class struggle. But there can be no such pure democracy, it is a metaphysical abstraction. To understand the essence of democracy, it is imperative to pose the question: democracy for whom, for the exploiters or the exploited? It must be understood that since democracy is a form of government, there is no democracy unrelated to the rule of any particular class, and that democracy established under the rule of the working class is a higher form of democracy than bourgeois democracy, just like bourgeois democracy is a higher form of democracy than, say, the democracy of the slaveholders of ancient Greece. In other words, one should not try to talk about democracy, abstracting from real social relations and from the real change and development of society.
                1. Petrol cutter
                  Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 21: 24
                  -1
                  "If we think about people, about" human nature ", then
                  I am thinking about the following.
                  I have a specific task in production. To complete a certain amount of work within a specified time frame. And if I didn’t do it, it would have sad consequences for me and the people who did it with me.
                  How I will do / what I will do - nobody cares at all. Unfortunately.
                  If it also turns out that these same people have stolen the tool given to them, I will categorically begin to apply repressive punishments to them.
                  With all the cruelty and satanic delight entrusted to me. hi
              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 04: 59
                -3
                Quote: Benzorez
                "Who? !! The ministers appointed by him? They have been hindering for 20 years like this? Completeness! Or is he blind / deaf?"
                Forgive God. I just reported ...
                Some kind of conversation between the dumb and the deaf ...
                Everyone steals! The one from the construction site is a bag / well, four-rested. This is a couple / three of cutters for two thousand from the factory. And this is probably money. And probably they were included in the estimate ?! And probably now we have nothing to work with ?! And now they probably need to be purchased on a new basis?!. And where is Zin's money ?! request
                And this is the norm of life!
                And Vladimir is to blame ...

                You know, the excuse that everyone is stealing, I usually listen to thieves ... Think, for example, I bought keys at a flea market and brought them to the factory. Did you drag something from the factory? Yes, I did. But he also carried it to the plant. And one guy was in our brigade, so he was so honest that he refused the money that clients promised him for a good job. And the man is the smartest. I once asked him why he doesn’t take if he is offered money? Do you know how he answered? "Vovan, I respect myself, that's why I don't take it." After that, I know how much I respected him. And everyone respected him for such a position. He always did his job with high quality. And if it was necessary to take something home, he would ask. And think, they never refused him, because he was not impudent.
              3. Beringovsky
                Beringovsky 31 March 2021 12: 45
                -2
                Quote: Benzorez

                Everyone steals! The one from the construction site is a bag / well, four-rested. This is a couple / three of cutters for two thousand from the factory ....
                And Vladimir is to blame ...

                What nonsense? What does the burr bag have to do with it? Who cares about this anyway? These are solely the problems of the business owner, this is his money. If he doesn't care, then there's nothing to talk about. And if you don’t care, then they will find a baggage in no time.
                All this is resolved within business structures, it is exclusively their business, their money, and there is no need to try to drag it into the problem of corruption in the country.
                Your intention to divert the discussion aside is understandable. But this attempt is so-so.
          3. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 19: 40
            +9
            Quote: Benzorez
            I also understand that the president is trying (at least trying) to establish a kind of acceptable life for the majority of his fellow citizens in the country.

            And you can find out exactly how he "is trying to establish an acceptable life for the majority of fellow citizens in the country"? How is this expressed? I can tell you how the average family lives in the provinces, where the husband and wife are middle class with salaries of 17 thousand rubles, have a mortgage and two children.
            1. QWERTY
              QWERTY 30 March 2021 19: 52
              -7
              An acceptable life is when EVERY citizen can say without distorting his soul - "I am honest with the state, and you?" And when everything is poking around on trifles at an accessible level, it is impossible to achieve a life that is so acceptable for everyone. And about 17 thousand salaries do not need la-la. He who seeks will find. If you agree to this fee, then so be it. I have already seen enough of people who want to drink and crush titi even for five times more money.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 19: 59
                +6
                Quote: ytsuken
                And about 17 thousand salaries do not need la-la. He who seeks will find. If you agree to this fee, then so be it.

                Just don’t lie to me about salaries. She works as a head teacher at a school and gets 18 tr., With a penny, he works as a driver in our "white house" and gets almost 17 tr. I know the salaries in the city.
                Quote: ytsuken
                I have already seen enough of people who want to drink and crush titi even for five times more money.

                And what did you write this for?
                Quote: ytsuken
                An acceptable life is when EVERY citizen can say without distorting his soul - "I am honest with the state, and you?" And when everything is poking around on trifles at an accessible level, it is impossible to achieve a life that is so acceptable for everyone.

                Do you personally "tyrit" something? Me not. And where does the power live from, only the blind cannot see.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 30 March 2021 22: 20
                  .
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  works as a driver in our "white house" and receives almost 17 tr. I know the salaries in the city.

                  )))))))))))) poor, poor, about allowances and surcharges asked?
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 22: 30
                    +4
                    Quote: poquello
                    )))))))))))) poor, poor, about allowances and surcharges asked?

                    He has no additional payments. And he pays the fines himself.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 30 March 2021 23: 48
                      -7
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      Quote: poquello
                      )))))))))))) poor, poor, about allowances and surcharges asked?

                      He has no additional payments. And he pays the fines himself.

                      even wrong with the "white house"
                      1. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 23: 56
                        +4
                        Quote: poquello
                        even wrong with the "white house"

                        A small provincial town in the Kuban, salaries of state employees from 12500 to 22000. I do not take into account high bosses.))))) There are other salaries and besides salaries.
                      2. poquello
                        poquello 31 March 2021 00: 03
                        .
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Quote: poquello
                        even wrong with the "white house"

                        A small provincial town in the Kuban, ...

                        I don’t think that the system is organized in different ways, maybe of course they don’t hold the drivers for their own people, but maybe now they have already thrown over and covered with lullies, earlier it was possible to safely multiply by 2
                      3. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 31 March 2021 00: 18
                        +3
                        Quote: poquello
                        before you could safely multiply by 2

                        Not now. Here, the head of the municipality gets paid for 70 thousand, I don’t know how many heads of bukh, but she is clearly "in the share", and all the rest are sitting on bare salary, about 15 thousand
          4. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 30 March 2021 20: 15
            -1
            Quote: ytsuken
            I have already seen enough of people who want to drink and crush titi even for five times more money.

            I received ten thousand. He worked as a plumber minder. He pumped water to summer residents. How is it? I climbed the shit and cut trees ... Ine drunk, your mother. Interestingly, in the 90s I received millions, and in the 90s - thousands. That is, for a similar job in the XNUMXs, I received a salary dozens of times, more than in zero. The salary was millions.
            1. Pensive Lawyer
              Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 01: 40
              +1
              This is called hyperinflation.
              The trick is that boots, for example, for women, also cost millions.
              And now there are thousands. Because the state cut off several zeros (it seems like just three). Accordingly, a million in denomination became equal to a thousand after this process. The salary in the millions has become in the thousands. So there are no dozens of times here
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 02: 05
                -5
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                The trick is that boots, for example, for women, also cost millions.

                Heh, yes you do not understand the prices at all. Once a client-driver from the Ryazan UPP VOS was sitting with us, and the master brought us a ticket. I looked: "Boryan, something is not enough .." Client: "Well, let me take a look ..." He stared at the paper and bulged his eyes: "Is this not enough for you? Yes, I get five times less than you!" And before that we were given a salary with a bonus three times more, I received more than my friend's father bought a Lada in excellent condition. What boots? With my salary, I could buy a dozen Cossacks, which were on the go. Every week I bought a couple of bottles of cognac and Lucky Straight smoked. This despite the fact that I left only one tenth of my salary, and gave the rest to my mother. I washed my leather jacket, so I got fifteen people drunk. Piano a couple of liters, Russian vodka, Amaretto, Sangria, Greek cognac .... Yeah, boots .... Yes, Sharpe bought TV for one vacation. For a salary - Orion vidac. Houses in Sevastopol were sold for about seven million, and at that time we were paid about six hundred thousand. Boots, damn it ...
                1. Pensive Lawyer
                  Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 02: 40
                  0
                  Voopooos, plumbers are taking over the job now. Would you like to work yourself?
                  A plumber, for example, did the piping in the apartment. For 3 working days I received 40 thousand from me for work. Plus compensation for materials on checks. That is, the guy earned more than the average salary in 2 incomplete days. On average, 13 thousand per day. And I waited for him for 2 weeks, the workload is high. Average prices for the market, I checked.
                  Why not try?
                  Did you chop down trees? I ordered to cut and cut a tree in the garden for my grandmother - 8 thousand. Plus 5 thousand KAMAZ which was taken out. 2 workers were done in half a day. Total 4 thousand per capita. They say there is a lot of work in the season. Between the seasons, they made a masera at home and sell simple furniture. Cabinets, shelves.
                  A loft-style table (table top 170 by 80, 2 legs black metal) on the market for less than 8 thousand rubles, don't even come. The cost of materials (cost) is about 2 thousand. A total of 6 thousand clean, if very simple and ugly. Learn to age wood - the price starts from 18 thousand. In a large city, the demand for such furniture is huge.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 02: 54
                    -3
                    Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                    Voopooos, plumbers are taking over the job now. Would you like to work yourself?
                    A plumber, for example, did the piping in the apartment. For 3 working days I received 40 thousand from me for work. Plus compensation for materials on checks. That is, the guy earned more than the average salary in 2 incomplete days. On average, 13 thousand per day. And I waited for him for 2 weeks, the workload is high. Average prices for the market, I checked.
                    Why not try?
                    Did you chop down trees? I ordered to cut and cut a tree in the garden for my grandmother - 8 thousand. Plus 5 thousand KAMAZ which was taken out. 2 workers were done in half a day. Total 4 thousand per capita. They say there is a lot of work in the season. Between the seasons, they made a masera at home and sell simple furniture. Cabinets, shelves.
                    A loft-style table (table top 170 by 80, 2 legs black metal) on the market for less than 8 thousand rubles, don't even come. The cost of materials (cost) is about 2 thousand. A total of 6 thousand clean, if very simple and ugly. Learn to age wood - the price starts from 18 thousand. In a large city, the demand for such furniture is huge.

                    Can you read? I pumped water to summer residents in the summer. Served about 5 kilometers of pipes. Plumber motorist. One day off a week, 10 thousand a month. I climbed the shit, hammered the caps into the pipe. And he did the wiring. Only no one paid me such money, all pensioners are beggars.
                  2. Pensive Lawyer
                    Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 11: 42
                    +2
                    Do you understand me? Your work is not appreciated there, than work for, to put it mildly, an unfair price, change your place of work. This is all capitalism. And your generation, brought up in the USSR, often thinks with the concepts of labor and justice that were then. Cool concepts.
                    Only now they are dead, as the state also died.
                    And the state is no longer a regulator on the labor market, it sets the minimum, the wildest minimum. And greedy employers are trying to push you as much as possible to this minimum.
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 02: 46
              -5
              Quote: Pensive Lawyer
              Because the state cut off several zeros (it seems to be just three).

              Everything is clear with you. You don't know a damn what the salaries were in the 90s. Ask your grandparents, or something. For example, in July 93, I bought a two-cassette machine Mayak, for 65 thousand - this was my salary, and in October I already received 85, in April 94 - 300 thousand, and in March 95, already under a million. So you don’t know shit about these years.
      2. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 20: 03
        0
        "I can tell you how the average family lives in the provinces, where the husband and wife are middle class with salaries of 17 thousand rubles, have a mortgage and two children."
        Fig yourself! In general, I am a simple proletariat!
        What can the middle class tell me about the various difficulties of the sea? ...
        Gentlemen, capitalists, will you still complain to me? request
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 20: 07
          -1
          Quote: Benzorez
          Fig yourself!

          In fact, does the comment have something to say? Or are you moving out this way?
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          And you can find out exactly how he "is trying to establish an acceptable life for the majority of fellow citizens in the country"? How is this expressed? I can tell you how the average family lives in the provinces, where the husband and wife are middle class with salaries of 17 thousand rubles, have a mortgage and two children.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 30 March 2021 19: 51
      0
      Quote: Benzorez
      Candidates? Apart from demagoguery, I have never heard anything sane.

      We can offer you as a candidate, a month of promotion, a delivered speech, a twinkle in the eyes. or you consider yourself insane.
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 19: 58
        -1
        "We can offer you as a candidate, a month of promotion, a delivered speech, a twinkle in your eyes. Or you consider yourself insane."
        I am worse - I am not a professional in terms of managing the country. In addition, with some ideas that are not popular.
        Therefore, I do not climb anywhere. If possible.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 30 March 2021 20: 09
          +4
          Quote: Benzorez
          I'm worse - I'm not a professional in terms of running the country.

          And who was the GDP in 1996-99? Prior to that, he was a head of the club with the rank of captain-major in Dresden WGV. Then he was a supernumerary employee who, at best, could be a teacher of CWP in a rural school. It was not for nothing that Rokhlin was preparing an uprising. And I advise you to watch the court of the union of officers over Putin, where Ilyukhin acted as the prosecutor.
          1. Petrol cutter
            Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 20: 21
            -3
            "Head of the club with the rank of Major Captain in Dresden WGV."
            Well, you see ...
            When I live up to that status. Then I'll think about making a competition for a friend of the head of the club ..
            And while - as taught by Comrade Chapaev - not ..
            It is necessary to study under! .. repeat
            And I already have something to learn from work.
            And there, to study / not to retrain ... The old ones will leave right now. And the bag will come.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 30 March 2021 20: 27
              +4
              Quote: Benzorez
              And while - as taught by Comrade Chapaev - not ..
              Need to learn some more! ..

              We have tens of thousands of head clubs in our country, so there is an alternative.
              1. Petrol cutter
                Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 20: 34
                -3
                "We have tens of thousands of head clubs in our country, so there is an alternative.
                Well, that's good.
                Okay. I'm called to work tomorrow. The strike, as I understand it, is curtailed. Apparently it's time to turn off our sluggish conversations.
                And then there will be no time for rest.
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 31 March 2021 08: 48
            +2
            In 1996-1999, he was already an employee of the Presidential Administration, at one time he headed the Control Department.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 05: 09
          0
          Quote: Benzorez
          I'm worse - I'm not a professional in terms of running the country.

          And where is the country taught to govern?
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 30 March 2021 19: 09
    -3
    What are Zyuganov's goals? Why did Biden, who was still vice-president, inflamed with love for the Russian communists? By the way, in Ukraine, when he ruled there, the communists were outlawed. what
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 30 March 2021 19: 16
      +3
      Um, there is no third option in the picture - the one who does not have an analogue of the world has managed to pile talent under the door for everyone except his friends and lackeys.
    2. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 19: 23
      0
      I have no idea about Zyuganov's goals.
      I don’t understand at all how a communist can be a millionaire / rder at the same time ..
      It's not that coat ...
      I am generally non-partisan. Even in the Komsomol did not have time.
      And I'm not drowning for anyone. For myself, perhaps.
      I just see the next rake.
      Vova is bad ... And who is good ?! In response, silence ...
      But, Vova is bad! .. request
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 30 March 2021 19: 42
        +7
        IMHO Zyuganov has only one goal - to live in such a present, where yesterday smoothly flows into tomorrow. The struggle or even preparation for such has long since died down - as we have been observing for 15 years already, according to the election results.
      2. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 30 March 2021 20: 16
        0
        Quote: Benzorez
        I have no idea about Zyuganov's goals.
        I don’t understand at all how a communist can be a millionaire / rder at the same time ..
        It's not that coat ...

        Should he live in a hut in Razliv? Or squeeze the Spark in the basement in Geneva?
        And where does the infa about billions come from? 146%, right?

        Quote: Benzorez
        Vova is bad ... And who is good ?! In response, silence ...
        But, Vova is bad! .. request

        Well, if the whole clearing is trampled down, what can you see there? All of Putin's rivals are either in prison or have fled abroad. Or in the next world.
        Well, on TV in general, there is a continuous Putiniada, not a day without a guarantor. And how do you find out about potential candidates in such cases, from where? From the iron, maybe ...
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 30 March 2021 20: 54
          -4
          "a day without a guarantor. And how do you find out about potential candidates in such cases, where from? From the iron, perhaps ..."
          Ospidi! How tired it was ...
          I'm tired of talking - you reject, then offer!
          One empty water ... One-idle talk.
          For all good / against all bad ...
          Nothing. request
          1. Beringovsky
            Beringovsky 30 March 2021 22: 09
            +4
            Where to offer, on VO? Or will you give me air on the TV channel? So there is Putin from morning to evening, to the point of nausea. There was no such brainwashing even under the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 05: 17
            -1
            Quote: Benzorez
            I'm tired of talking - you reject, then offer!

            Ivashov, for example.
        2. poquello
          poquello 30 March 2021 23: 01
          -7
          Quote: Beringovsky
          Well, if the whole clearing is trampled down, what can you see there? All of Putin's rivals are either in prison or have fled abroad. Or in the next world.

          in, I watched for 4 minutes about the rivals Batski, it seemed very unconvincing, despite the fact that he undoubtedly cleans the field, but wait, there you go .., despite the fact that everything is in front of our eyes, do not drive rotten.
          Who is offended there? Khodorkovsky with Magnitsky?
          Quote: Beringovsky
          And how do you find out about potential candidates in such cases, from where?

          after clarifying questions, will you start singing about federal channels? so these "potential" and other channels are not
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 30 March 2021 19: 24
      +5
      Quote: Captive
      What are Zyuganov's goals?

      What are you all about Zyuganov? He is older than the priest's dog, there are young and promising people in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation ...
      Tell us the goals of Putin. Tell us which bank he is rowing to. His latest decisions for the good of the nation have bumped her sideways - the nation has shrunk by half a million citizens. Even in today's situation, I cannot understand why and for what reason sugar has doubled in price? Apparently the Russians wash themselves with moonshine. Excessively and unreasonably rising prices themselves speak of who rules the country.
      Caught my eye:
      “But what to do? What to do? - Oh, how do I know what to do! Protest, demand, shout, go out into the street ... - I beg you ... I understand ... But tell me, what can we? - What can we? - suddenly exclaimed the aunt in a high and clear voice. - We can do everything, everything! If only we want and are not afraid. We can tell a bastard in the face that he is a scoundrel, a thief - that he is a thief, a coward - that he is a coward ... But instead of that we sit at home and are silent! My God, my God, it's scary to think what the unfortunate Russia has reached! Mediocre generals, mediocre ministers, mediocre tsar ... “For God's sake, Tatyana Ivanovna, children will hear!” “And it's great if they hear. Let them know what country they live in. Then they will thank us. Let them know that they have a king - and a drunkard, besides, he was also beaten on the head with a bamboo stick. Geek! And the best people of the country, the most honest, the most educated, the smartest, rot in prisons, in hard labor ... "
      (V.P. Kataev "The lonely sail is whitening")

      There is also Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin ... But here everything has been known for a long time.
      Now Biden (he wouldn’t bother us), yesterday - Trump, the day before yesterday - Obama ... Why do we need a judoka athlete who cannot defend symbols of statehood in front of some sports bureaucrats? Where can we, pensioners, go, what can we console ourselves with? Maybe wipe yourself off with promises and promises?
      1. poquello
        poquello 30 March 2021 23: 06
        -9
        Quote: ROSS 42
        why and for what reason has sugar doubled in price?

        for seed, tell me why you shouldn't have risen in price)))))))))))))))
  • Stas157
    Stas157 30 March 2021 21: 57
    +7
    Quote: Benzorez
    So the president is kind of like a self-nominated candidate. Or am I confusing something?
    What does EP have to do with it? ...

    How does it come about? So the king himself created it. His brainchild. The party in power is a bunch of officials, thieves and bribe-takers. Now he himself does not want to get dirty about it.
  • Pavel Sukhov
    Pavel Sukhov 30 March 2021 18: 15
    +6
    This is how Robin Dixon thinks ...And that's it
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 30 March 2021 18: 15
    -2
    What is it! Only agent Danila was shaken off, and the kavarny terran had already shoved his grandfather on punch cards into his place.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 30 March 2021 18: 56
      -2
      Don’t worry, Biden didn’t succeed .. lol Journalists and even amerskie lie as always. yes
  • Andrey Korotkov
    Andrey Korotkov 30 March 2021 18: 30
    +3
    Okay, R. Dixon is an American (type specialist), Who is interested in Kommersant with a similar nonsense agreed?
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 24
      -1
      Quote: Andrey Korotkov
      Okay R. Dixon - American (type specialist)

      Doesn't he get money from Russia for an hour?
  • rocket757
    rocket757 30 March 2021 18: 36
    +3
    In the US press: By his statement, Biden himself rallied the Russians around Putin
    You might think it just happened. They didn’t know about us, and they won’t know as long as they hear only themselves and all the traitorous renegades!
    By the way ... we rally for the sake of the COUNTRY, HOMELAND, and not for the sake of any particular person!
  • purple
    purple 30 March 2021 18: 40
    +3
    Quote: 210ox
    Here is the Krasnodar Territory. They scolded Kondratyev and who was not lazy. And he got more percent in the elections than V. Putin. Awesome transparent.

    Well, you also write about Chechnya ...
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 30 March 2021 18: 43
      +4
      Quote: purple
      Well, you also write about Chechnya ...

      What is wrong with Chechnya?
      1. purple
        purple 30 March 2021 18: 45
        -4
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: purple
        Well, you also write about Chechnya ...

        What is wrong with Chechnya?

        Have you heard such a word analogy? like a hint
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 30 March 2021 20: 20
          -1
          Quote: purple
          Have you heard such a word analogy? like a hint

          Wow, damn it ... I can tell a lot about Chechnya ... But I won't ...
  • GUSAR
    GUSAR 30 March 2021 18: 45
    +9
    I was not united. Checkmate to you Biden!
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 19: 12
      +7
      Quote: GUSAR
      I was not united. Checkmate to you Biden!

      Well, yes, the insidious Biden was overlaid. How did our ingenious strategist answer there, "Who calls his names, he is called that himself"? Just like my youngest daughter at four.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 25
        0
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        "Who calls his names, he himself is called that"?

        laughing
        Masterpiece!
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 19: 27
          +3
          hi
          Quote: Silvestr
          Masterpiece!

          It was a shame for the drunken Yeltsin's speech, but this sober one bears such. Where are we heading?
          1. Pensive Lawyer
            Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 02: 07
            -6
            If you do not distinguish bullying from serious speech, I advise you to talk to people more often, not only within the framework of work.
            Your political comrades-in-arms are rolling, to the same place, where before, to break through the next bottom.
            The more I read in the comments of the pearl of fighters for all good versus all bad, the more the desire to convey my point of view, to argue, turns into a feeling of disgust.
            I don’t watch TV, I don’t listen to nonsense on the first channel for grannies, just as I don’t listen to such nonsense on opposition platforms like the echo of Moscow.
            I look at the facts in the news feed, rejecting any assessment by the news authors. When they talk about how bad everyone is, what I see, and how I live myself, not having any connections, by nature being an introvert who had to carry the thought of registering for 3 years on this forum.
            And you know what? Live. It has become. Better. All my acquaintances can now afford more than 3 years ago. I can afford more. Even taking into account the increased prices. Everyone who is spinning, taking steps to improve their lives, have achieved this to some extent.
            If it becomes harder for you, then you should think about changing your job or about additional sources of income.
            If the work squeezes you completely, and it is difficult to earn extra money, then definitely change your place of work.
            No water flows under the standing stone. Don't be unhappy with the stone. If life is not happy, overcome your fear and take a step forward.
            The state, officials, Putin, they won't do it for you. Otherwise, you will receive 17 thousand on average. It was not Putin who set such payment for you. It is your boss who values ​​you so much as an employee. Don't work for someone who doesn't respect you so much.
            So we go, as I see it, up the hill.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 31 March 2021 06: 55
              -1
              Quote: Pensive Lawyer
              If you do not distinguish bullying from serious speech, I advise you to talk to people more often, not only within the framework of work.

              I just distinguish mockery, but today it is more and more this mockery of the people.

              Quote: Pensive Lawyer
              Your political comrades-in-arms are rolling, to the same place, where before, to break through the next bottom.
              The more I read in the comments of the pearl of fighters for all good versus all bad, the more the desire to convey my point of view, to argue, turns into a feeling of disgust.

              Well, how is it expected, when there is nothing to argue with, you, like all your comrades-in-arms, fans of the "lord of toilet brushes", always get personal.
              Quote: Pensive Lawyer
              So we go, as I see it, up the hill.

              The fact that you are "going uphill" on TV is evident, it is bad that the rest of the country is going downhill. After all, you will lead to sin, and then you will ask, "And why are we?"
              1. Pensive Lawyer
                Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 12: 21
                0
                I didn’t get personal. I am talking about disgust because I do not see constructiveness, but I see only unwillingness to think. And I am enraged by such people who filter one information, without filtering at the same time in their, let's call it naivety, information another.
                Let us lead to sin, you will simply finish off the state, with your ideas about how everything works.
                Even now, you have highlighted in my comment exclusively negative. However, half of it is simple advice to you. Unsolicited, not without it, but sensible and based on personal experience and the experience of my friends. So, no matter how negatively I relate to your position, I personally try to push you on the path to improving your life. If the store where you buy apples has inflated the price on them, go to your competitors.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 31 March 2021 14: 25
                  0
                  Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                  I didn’t get personal.

                  Is that so?
                  Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                  If you find it harder ...

                  Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                  If the work squeezes you completely ...

                  Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                  Don't be unhappy with the stone. If life is not happy, overcome your fear and take a step forward.

                  You’re trying to give me some advice, but you say that you don’t get personal.
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  It was a shame for the drunken Yeltsin's speech, but this sober one bears such. Where are we heading?

                  And you just had to refute the fact that your idol has recently been the most complete nonsense.
                  Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                  Let us lead to sin, you will simply finish off the state, with your ideas about how everything works.

                  Your like-minded people have almost finished him off.
                  Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                  I am talking about disgust, because I do not see constructiveness, but I see only unwillingness to think. And I am enraged by such people who filter one information, without filtering in their own, let's call it naivety, information another.

                  Characters spreading lies and various nonsense, for the sake of the ruling clique, have made me vomit for a long time. I hope you at least get paid, or just how some of our state employees were charged with commenting on articles on the forums?
                  Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                  Even now, you have highlighted in my comment exclusively negative.

                  Quote what you think I should have highlighted and what to answer.
                  Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                  However, half of it is simple advice to you. Unsolicited, not without it, but sensible and based on personal experience and the experience of my friends. So, no matter how negatively I relate to your position, personally I am trying to push you on the path to improving your life. If the store where you buy apples has inflated the price on them, go to your competitors.

                  I have my own store.))))) However, as I suppose, this is an allegory. Then I'll tell you this, it was in my store that thieves raised the prices for tomatoes, apples and meat, and even stole half of it. In my opinion, it is correct in such a situation to call the thieves to account, and not go from your store to my competitors.
                  1. Pensive Lawyer
                    Pensive Lawyer 31 March 2021 15: 52
                    0
                    I, of course, turned to you with advice. But when they say "personalized", they usually mean offensive statements directed to someone specific. I did not say anything offensive, and when I addressed you directly, my advice did not carry.

                    Putin is not my idol. I have a different point of view on many issues, about which I have already spoken and written many times. Refute? That is, to prove that he is sane and just in such a funny way openly scoffs at the "partners"? Does anyone doubt the sanity of a person holding power for 21 years?

                    And please tell me, what kind of "lies and nonsense" am I talking about? What do you need to change jobs if they don't get paid? What do you need to defend your rights before the employer? So it is.
                    Or is it nonsense that I and most of my acquaintances began to live better? Well, your business is not to believe. Do people express opposite views on this forum? And it seems like no one accuses them of lying? So why is there such a prejudice against me? Because there are 2 points of view - yours and the wrong one? See, we are the same. Only on opposite sides of the barricades.

                    You should not have allocated anything and should not be responsible for anything - our country is free. You just took from my comment exclusively negative, and even perceived the benevolent advice as a transition to personalities. I noted this as an example, when the eyes see only what they want to see. For example, I want to see positive changes, and I REALLY see them. I am not saying that life is sugar. I say that in general there are more opportunities, social lifts for seekers. Of course, they are not transparent, and that's bad. But we live in capitalism, and in its wildest manifestation. The same toughness that is going on "below" is characteristic of capitalism. And that's not good. But without changing the system, you cannot get rid of the tin.
                    And the opposition, that it just infuriates me in it - they write what? That's right - a sea of ​​freedoms, grandmothers fall from the sky, no poverty, but all this with the same thing, capitalism and democracy. WHAT IS IMPOSSIBLE IN PRINCIPLE. Hence my disgust for their position.
                    They would write about the return of communism, about socialism, about the dictatorship, but at least, damn it, about the monarchy - I would not say a word, with them, such promises can be partially fulfilled, and this is a concrete attempt to change the rails and try to change something. And without changing the rails, you will go all the same, and do not care who is the locomotive driver, Putin, Navalny, Grudinin, or Uncle Vitya. Putin simply, unlike them, knows how to roll, so that the train does not go off the rails, and the rest of the guys - pedal to the floor, no brains are needed.

                    If you do not mean the state itself by thieves, then there is nothing to help. In other cases, there are state mechanisms that have even begun to work for 4 years already and which can help you (from experience I speak only in the part of the civil and administrative sphere, criminal law and the process were somewhere at the level of 2 meters below hell, so and left).
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 31 March 2021 18: 37
                      +1
                      Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                      And please tell me, what kind of "lies and nonsense" am I talking about?

                      At least this:
                      Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                      And you know what? Live. It has become. Better. All my acquaintances can now afford more than 3 years ago. I can afford more. Even taking into account the increased prices. Everyone who is spinning, taking steps to improve their lives, have achieved this to some extent.

                      Can I explain to you why I consider this statement of yours to be nonsense at best?
                      Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                      For example, I want to see positive changes, and I REALLY see them .... I say that in general there are more opportunities, social lifts for seekers

                      Can you describe them, these very positive changes, just not your personal ones or your friends, but somewhat deeper, that is, those that concern all strata of society? I do not know where you live, but in our province there are practically no social lifts left, family ties and nepotism. In order to get a job in a "bread place", then only "kalym", as in Central Asia. Yes, you can get a job at an oil extraction plant (salary 25-30 tr.), Only for kalym I have four schoolchildren, do you think I transferred them all to family education from a good life? For that, today I see the difference between the old Soviet textbooks and the current ones. Arithmetic (Pchelko Polyak from 1-4 grades) leads straight to the current seventh grade, to algebra. And I can give examples of such a wagon and a small cart, not in Putin, but in the system that he created. Or, more precisely, which has not changed since Yeltsin, but only gets worse. I know enterprises that were closed under Yeltsin, more were closed under Putin.
                      Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                      And without changing the rails, you will go all the same, and do not care who is the locomotive driver there,

                      Golden words, I completely agree with you. My position is that for Russia today only the socialist path of development is acceptable. For a number of reasons, it takes a long time to describe them. How to achieve this, I will not write, the article about extremism has not been canceled. In any case, regardless of your or my desire, the Russian Federation will have "interesting times" in the near future, and God forbid that they would not lead to the Ukrainian scenario. Because some people cannot temper their irrepressible greed.
                      Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                      In other cases, there are government mechanisms that have even begun to work for 4 years and that can help you

                      Of course, I use something, there is an interesting program for me (training), there is a social contract, but if you are talking about grants and the like, then only for kickbacks, just like that in our region, competitions are not won.
      2. ALARI
        ALARI 31 March 2021 09: 13
        0
        Old that small.
  • Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 30 March 2021 18: 48
    0
    Nonsense intended for people who are not far away, another forecast from a layer of supposedly elites and experts who wants to see each other as well. Or, more simply, they want so much, as they predicted before the full ...... in our country!
  • purple
    purple 30 March 2021 18: 49
    -9
    Quote: Alf
    Then what are Putin's goals?

    Putin's goal ... is to pull the country out of external control and put it under his own, so that everything goes not to others, but to the Country (controlled structures).
    In principle, I did almost everything, I missed only the financial sector, the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, etc.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 19: 07
      +9
      Quote: purple
      In principle, I did almost everything, I missed only the financial sector, the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, etc.

      Well, yes, and also education, medicine, social sphere, industrial production, machine tools, electronics, science, pharmaceuticals, space, etc. So there is only a little business left.)))))) You at least think sometimes before you write.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 29
        +8
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        medicine

        I especially like it! So they modernized that the daughter-in-law of the Minister of Health of the Russian Federation Murashko died of a heart attack due to the lack of adequate ambulance! And this is in Moscow! Bottom!
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 30 March 2021 19: 47
          +8
          Quote: Silvestr
          that the daughter-in-law of the Minister of Health of the Russian Federation Murashko died of a heart attack due to the lack of adequate ambulance! And this is in Moscow! Bottom!

          Karma .. almost instant ..
        2. poquello
          poquello 30 March 2021 23: 12
          .
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          medicine

          I especially like it! So they modernized that the daughter-in-law of the Minister of Health of the Russian Federation Murashko died of a heart attack due to the lack of adequate ambulance! And this is in Moscow! Bottom!

          bad luck, in the United States there is no daughter-in-law of Minister Murashko, but there seems to have died more? no?
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 31 March 2021 01: 20
            -1
            Quote: poquello
            but it seems to have died there?

            From myocardial infarction? laughing
      2. A_Mazkov
        A_Mazkov 30 March 2021 20: 07
        0
        Well, until 2036, his term was extended. Do you think it will not cope?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 20: 11
          +4
          Quote: A_Mazkov
          Well, until 2036, his term was extended. Do you think it will not cope?

          I believe in him.))))
    2. Alf
      Alf 30 March 2021 19: 12
      +7
      Quote: purple
      missed only the financial sector, the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, etc.

      I forgot the most important thing. Or "forgot" ... Actually, the country's financial system is her blood.
      Quote: purple
      put under your own

      Put. The results are just lousy.
      Quote: purple
      and to the Country (controlled structures).

      Which ones ? Your friends? So it is not yet known who is carrying out whose orders.
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 27
      +1
      Quote: purple
      Putin's goal ... is to pull the country out of external control and put it under his own,

      The task is completed, here's the trouble - human life is short. What's next?
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 33
      +2
      Quote: purple
      missed only the financial sector, the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, etc.

      those. EVERYTHING! request
  • Andrea
    Andrea 30 March 2021 18: 49
    -2
    Meli, Emelya. The image of the West has been in it for a long time and is sinking deeper and deeper.
  • Dmitriy444
    Dmitriy444 30 March 2021 18: 55
    +10
    We will not deny, scold and insult the president only our prerogative, prosecuted by law))). Jokes as a joke, for me the GDP ended after the scandal about corruption in the Ministry of Defense, then this opinion only strengthened.
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 30 March 2021 19: 21
      +3
      Quote: Dmitriy444
      GDP ended after corruption scandal in Moscow region

      On the one hand, there is no capitalism without corruption in principle. Only in some countries such as the United States is it officially legalized - called lobbying. Taxes are even paid for lobbies in the United States, and at least 50% of the cost of weapons is budgeted as intermediary services, consultations, and a political lobby.
      On the other, moral and ethical side, corruption, like election promises, which our politicians are not even going to fulfill, is on a par with such crimes as treason and fraud on an especially large scale. But after the destruction of the fundamental principles of social justice in 1991, attracting people for trying to profit from state funds and the people under capitalism is like trying to bail out the sea - only the dregs will rise.
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 30 March 2021 19: 04
    -1
    Test, Still did not understand ...
  • purple
    purple 30 March 2021 19: 09
    -7
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: Alf
    Tell the residents of Primorye about these elections, when the candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation who won the election was simply and brazenly removed.

    Hello Friend! Now turboputriots will tell us about the rallying of 146% of the inhabitants around the circle of a friend's circle.

    breathe out ... at least sometimes
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 19: 09
    0
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: purple
    146% what are you talking about?

    And you ask where the 146% meme came from.
    Quote: purple
    Inquire about the latest governor elections

    Tell the residents of Primorye about these elections, when the candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation who won the election was simply and brazenly removed.

    Where was it filmed? We have a mayor from the Communist Party laughing
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 30 March 2021 19: 11
    +1
    Mattresses are generally overdone)))
    The Russians rallied around Putin, the Chinese around Xi Jin Ping, the Koreans around Nna, the Iranians around Khomeini, the Venezuelans around Maduro, the Bolivians threw off the pro-American rule and returned to the throne of Morales, the Syrians do not allow Assad to be overthrown, etc., but to rally the Armenians around Pashinyan , or Ukrainians around Zelensky for some reason do not work, apparently because these "leaders" are dancing to the American tune. For Armenians and Ukrainians, these two pretzels are worse than a bitter radish.
    1. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov 30 March 2021 19: 35
      +1
      good Not in the eyebrow but in the eye yes
  • ximkim
    ximkim 30 March 2021 19: 14
    +3

    This is the reasoning of Robin Dixon, whose article was published by the American newspaper The Washington Post.

    This R. Dixon is evidently a member of the United Russia party.
  • purple
    purple 30 March 2021 19: 15
    -2
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: purple
    We have transparent elections, and it is likely that the EP will be in for a surprise

    laughing laughing laughing
    So transparent that Belozertsev was arrested six months after the successful elections with a score of 78,72%, and 500 million rubles in cash in his apartment. But such figures are under the FSB cap! Tolley's cap was worn out, or did he steal it after the elections?request So I'm wondering about this dilemma laughing

    Lost banks ... well, or the roof is leaking
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 35
      +3
      Quote: purple
      Lost banks ... well, or the roof is leaking

      That's it in the moment! Full moon or something! laughing
      A more serious excuse is possible
      1. Alf
        Alf 30 March 2021 20: 11
        +1
        Quote: Silvestr
        Full moon or something!
        A more serious excuse is possible

        Can. Spring Fever.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 19: 17
    -6
    I read the thread as if I attended a party meeting 

    It was you who destroyed the country! laughing
    1. tatra
      tatra 30 March 2021 19: 37
      +3
      And those whom Putin has been praising for 20 years - Gorbachev and Yeltsin "have nothing to do with anything" to be held accountable for the destruction of the USSR and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union?
  • purple
    purple 30 March 2021 19: 18
    -9
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: purple
    missed only the financial sector, the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, etc.

    I forgot the most important thing. Or "forgot" ... Actually, the country's financial system is her blood.
    Quote: purple
    put under your own

    Put. The results are just lousy.
    Quote: purple
    and to the Country (controlled structures).

    Which ones ? Your friends? So it is not yet known who is carrying out whose orders.

    well, don't vote for him. You yourself wanted to be like in America ...
    the old fiends confused the USSR .. and now you are twitching on the forums.
    1. tatra
      tatra 30 March 2021 19: 39
      +1
      TO WHOM did you get it?
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 30 March 2021 19: 42
      +4
      Quote: purple
      the old men profited the USSR ..

      Where were you in 1991 and how old were you?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 30 March 2021 20: 30
        +3
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: purple
        the old men profited the USSR ..

        Where were you in 1991 and how old were you?

        Boris Yeltsin gave the order for 1991. For supporting democracy ..
  • purple
    purple 30 March 2021 19: 19
    -7
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: purple
    In principle, I did almost everything, I missed only the financial sector, the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, etc.

    Well, yes, and also education, medicine, social sphere, industrial production, machine tools, electronics, science, pharmaceuticals, space, etc. So there is only a little business left.)))))) You at least think sometimes before you write.

    Well, don't talk nonsense, everything else is developing ... quite to yourself, it's a pity that you are blinkered and you don't see it
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 20: 41
      +8
      Quote: purple
      Well, don't talk nonsense, everything else is developing ... quite to yourself, it's a pity that you are blinkered and you don't see it

      Yeah, it is developing in the same way as the economy, showing negative growth.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 30 March 2021 21: 27
      0
      Quote: purple
      everything else evolves ...

      You ask the minister about development. Sorry for my daughter-in-law, only 49 years old. Children stayed
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 05: 28
      0
      Quote: purple
      Well, don't talk nonsense, everything else is developing ... quite to yourself, it's a pity that you are blinkered and you don't see it

      What's developing? Where are our products? Look around you. Do you have a lot of Russian? Personally, everything is either Soviet or imported.
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 30 March 2021 19: 24
    0
    "That's how Robin Dixon thinks." And who is this anyway?
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    2. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov 30 March 2021 21: 19
      +2
      Ooo colleague this is madam still that Russophobe, the head of the Moscow bureau of WP, the titles of her articles speak for themselves negative
  • Radikal
    Radikal 30 March 2021 19: 25
    +7
    Quote: Captive
    What are Zyuganov's goals? Why did Biden, while still vice-president, inflamed with love for the Russian communists? ...
    ... thereby playing in the interests of ... the guarantor. I hope this is understandable, or should I "chew"? lol
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 19: 27
    -8
    Britain, USA - the metropolis of empires. Whom did Russia have to rob in order to ensure a comparable level of inflow of resources and population?
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 22: 57
      +7
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Britain, USA - the metropolis of empires. Whom did Russia have to rob in order to ensure a comparable level of inflow of resources and population?

      Whom did our country rob during the USSR? And they were the second economy in the world and the first economy in Europe. The standard of living of the population, as well as the birth rate, were incomparably higher than today. So, there is another way besides the robbery of the colonies.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 30 March 2021 19: 39
    +13
    After the pension reform and the "Palace" it will be difficult to rally the people around Putin, for this there will be few statements.
    Now, in general, in my opinion, there is a fairly well-established tendency in society - active supporters of GDP are slowly decreasing, opponents are slowly growing, passive supporters and passive opponents have reactively moved in recent years into the category of politically inert.
  • Bare
    Bare 30 March 2021 19: 42
    +5
    From all that is happening, we can assume that the hand of the Kremlin is visible in everything. someone drove into Biden's brain and did what the US president said.
    By the way, this is also the blocking of the Suez Canal. ... ... you know whose hand.
    And it cannot be otherwise, it should be so simple. lol
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 19: 42
    -6
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: purple
    We have transparent elections, and it is likely that the EP will be in for a surprise

    Panfilova will overdo it and again get 146%?

    Nice man when a business woman is running from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on the screen selling her not frail wardrobe from very expensive clothes bought in different Courchevels and prostrations, put things in order first in your ranks. laughing
    1. tatra
      tatra 30 March 2021 19: 56
      +1
      And why do the enemies of the communists have the highest demands on the communists, and not the slightest on themselves?
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 22: 59
      +5
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Nice man when a business woman is running from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation ...

      What does this have to do with Panfilova and 146%?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 19: 43
    -6
    Quote: tatra
    And those whom Putin has been praising for 20 years - Gorbachev and Yeltsin "have nothing to do with anything" to be held accountable for the destruction of the USSR and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union?

    That's how they ruined everything. Kosygin was a real literate communist
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 30 March 2021 20: 33
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Quote: tatra
      And those whom Putin has been praising for 20 years - Gorbachev and Yeltsin "have nothing to do with anything" to be held accountable for the destruction of the USSR and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union?

      That's how they ruined everything. Kosygin was a real literate communist

      Kosygin destroyed our economy.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 30 March 2021 19: 59
    +4
    "Boy, whose are you ...?" (WITH)
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 20: 00
    -6
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: purple
    We have transparent elections, and it is likely that the EP will be in for a surprise

    Panfilova will overdo it and again get 146%?

    Nice man when a business woman is running from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on the screen selling her not frail wardrobe from very expensive clothes bought in different Courchevels and prostrations, put things in order first in your ranks. laughing

    Do you need a video? laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 20: 07
    -5
    Quote: tatra
    And why do the enemies of the communists have the highest demands on the communists, and not the slightest on themselves?

    Am I an "enemy" of the communists? put things in order in your ranks, otherwise you preach
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 20: 17
    .
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    After the pension reform and the "Palace" it will be difficult to rally the people around Putin, for this there will be few statements.
    Now, in general, in my opinion, there is a fairly well-established tendency in society - active supporters of GDP are slowly decreasing, opponents are slowly growing, passive supporters and passive opponents have reactively moved in recent years into the category of politically inert.

    Dream on "communist" laughing laughing
    1. A_Mazkov
      A_Mazkov 30 March 2021 22: 24
      +5
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      After the pension reform and the "Palace" it will be difficult to rally the people around Putin, for this there will be few statements.
      Now, in general, in my opinion, there is a fairly well-established tendency in society - active supporters of GDP are slowly decreasing, opponents are slowly growing, passive supporters and passive opponents have reactively moved in recent years into the category of politically inert.

      Dream on "communist" laughing laughing

      This is you in vain!
      It is enough to revise the comments to this article to conclude that the supporters, in truth, are decreasing ...
      In the fight between the refrigerator and the TV, the refrigerator wins.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 31 March 2021 09: 01
      +1
      Judging by most of his comments, he is an anti-communist.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 20: 22
    -9
    I’m not like the ultra, I don’t even just belong to the right, a strong center, you know, I will not defend anyone here.

    But it is not a secret for anyone that today almost all of Wikipedia, and the entire Western discourse, is edited and controlled by loud leftists, all these BLMs, LGBT and so on.

    What assessments do you expect from them about the right-wing conservatives?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 20: 27
    0
    ... As the communists began to roll in the mud with the XX Congress of Stalin, they continued in their Ogonyok during perestroika. the search for at least something good in the Soviet period of our history.

    or at least not good, but rightly compelled.

    this is our history, our Motherland, and all this is imprinted in our souls.

    it is you who are ready to dehumanize everything and everyone, trample in the mud and throw them into ditches.

    and we, weak little people, are equipped with a soul, it is hard for her without good.
    1. tatra
      tatra 30 March 2021 20: 59
      0
      HA, but there is at least something from the 103-year-old Soviet and post-Soviet period, for which you, the enemies of the communists, would have had something to do with, for which of what you did, would you take responsibility? Or so all these 103 years and have lived "niprichemushi"?
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 23: 03
        +4
        Quote: tatra
        HA, but there is at least something from the 103-year-old Soviet and post-Soviet period, for which you, the enemies of the communists, would have had something to do with, for which of what you did, would you take responsibility? Or so all these 103 years and have lived "niprichemushi"?

        Taking responsibility is not in their rules.
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  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 30 March 2021 20: 32
    +6
    Everyone spits on old Biden. However, he will soon pay his American citizens almost half a million for our wooden ones. A man, however.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 30 March 2021 20: 33
    .
    Quote: Svarog

    That's interesting .. for the majority, he can't get it right .. only his friends are doing well .. maybe he is still not trying for the majority?

    I remember that your GDP cannot improve the birth rate. Even Petrosyan is resting here))). Now he owes you a bag of babos.
    What are you whining all the time? Aren't you sick of yourself?
    Nobody owes you bums anything. Have you ever tried to look critically at yourself or who do you think you are? Yes, there are some categories of the population who really need support, but clearly not like you. Work hard and you will be happy and there will be no time for these snot of yours.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 20: 54
      +9
      Quote: Tagan
      Nobody owes you bums anything. Have you ever tried to look critically at yourself or who do you think you are?

      Here are more of these pearls and jump to the new 17th year, then you will ask "What about us?" Look back, were you taught history at school? Read at your leisure, if you know how, of course https://zavtra.ru/blogs/rossiya_vperedi_ameriki_i_kitaya
    2. tatra
      tatra 30 March 2021 21: 03
      0
      And why, then, are the enemies of the communists put forward for the "crimes" of the Soviet communists that the birth rate in the USSR has decreased in comparison with the Republic of Ingushetia? "Is this different?"
    3. A_Mazkov
      A_Mazkov 30 March 2021 21: 19
      +10
      [quote = Tagan] [quote = Svarog]
      Work hard and you will be happy and there will be no time for these snot of yours. [/ Quote]
      The problem is that inflation and ruble depreciation gobble up the result of the "hard work".
      I just worked hard, but here both gasoline and food went up in price. Moreover, housing and communal services rates have grown.
      You can, of course, tighten the belt and not rock the boat, but it seems that there are fewer and fewer people willing to "treat with understanding".
      Revolutions are not made by hungry people.
      They are made by the well-fed, which they begin to feed poorly.
    4. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 05: 38
      0
      Quote: Tagan
      Nobody owes you bums anything.

      And why the hell do I need such a state if no one owes anyone? Putin is not a slacker? Deputies are not idlers? Speak your tongue - do not roll bags. Yeah, work hard ... Do you work hard, or do you just teach others to work hard?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 20: 36
    -5
    Quote: Old Horseradish
    Everyone spits on old Biden. However, he will soon pay his American citizens almost half a million for our wooden ones. A man, however.

    Will it print? laughing Good luck . laughing
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 20: 56
      +8
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Will it print?

      And you ask how much their food has risen in price, and how much we have.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 20: 49
    -6
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: tatra
    And those whom Putin has been praising for 20 years - Gorbachev and Yeltsin "have nothing to do with anything" to be held accountable for the destruction of the USSR and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union?

    That's how they ruined everything. Kosygin was a real literate communist

    Kosygin destroyed our economy.

    The main goals of the reform are: acceleration of economic growth rates; increasing its efficiency; raising the living standards of the population. The main idea of ​​the reform was the idea of ​​the need to use in the management of the country's economy not only the administrative pressure characteristic of the Soviet regime, but also economic incentives. For this, it was supposed to give enterprises some economic independence and the ability to dispose of part of their profits themselves. The first stage of the reform took place in 1965 and consisted, first of all, in the restructuring of the central government bodies: The territorial government bodies located outside the capital were eliminated - the Councils of National Economy introduced by Khrushchev. Instead, ministries were restored, each of which was responsible for the development of a specific sector of the economy throughout the country. Special committees were created to centrally deal with a certain issue of the economy on the territory of the state: the State Committee for Prices; Gossnab.
    Increase in purchase prices for agricultural products by 1,5 - 2 times. When the plan was fulfilled, the income for the above-planned production remained at the disposal of the collective farms and could be channeled, as in industry, into the social, cultural, and housing spheres. Reducing the size of mandatory deliveries for the main types of agricultural products. The prices for the delivery of the above-planned products increased by 50%. Cancellation of remuneration of collective farmers based on workdays worked. From 1966, they began to receive real wages according to tariff rates. Introduction of electiveness of collective farm chairmen, brigadiers and other positions. Restrictions on personal subsidiary plots of collective farmers were canceled.
    It is customary to call the eighth five-year plan "golden" due to the fact that the economic reform of Kosygin in the years of its implementation gave a short-term positive effect. The volume of industrial production increased by 50%. About two thousand new enterprises were created in the country. An automated control system is being introduced there. Housing construction developed intensively. The wages of the population have increased. The gross social product and national income during this period reached 6,5%. The growth rate of the economy has reached its maximum size. But after 1975, record numbers began to decline. Officially, the reform was not canceled by state bodies, but gradually, in the second half of the 1970s, it was curtailed. Therefore, in general, taking into account its consequences for the further development of the country, Kosygin's reform is considered unsuccessful.
    The reform was half-hearted, for its successful continuation it was necessary to change the foundations of the country's planned economy and reorient to a market economy, which was impossible under the conditions of a totalitarian regime. The most important reason is opposition to the reform of the highest bureaucratic party circles. Many leaders of the Communist Party and members of the government, as well as local officials, opposed the continuation of the reform. They were not used to and did not want to work without directive methods. Kosygina did not achieve significant changes for the better, but laid the foundation for a new economic system. The consequences of the reform were as follows: The planned economy actively included market elements. In 1977, a new Constitution of the USSR was issued, which spelled out a new system of economic planning. According to this system, the management of the economy was still at the mercy of the state apparatus, however, active functioning and even stimulation of private entrepreneurship were allowed. Deficit and inflation. Due to the rapid increase in workers' wages, the population soon had too much free money on hand, which was simply depreciated. The inability of enterprises to meet the needs of the population led to a shortage in the market. State budget deficit. Most of the money was concentrated in the hands of private entrepreneurs, while the treasury was rapidly emptying. Unemployment rose at a rapid pace as many state-owned enterprises began to close due to lack of finance. By integrating the above consequences, we can conclude that the USSR was going through an acute crisis, which later led to the collapse of the Union.
    "Kosygin" reforms of the 1960s. could, as many social scientists believe, become for the economy of the USSR what they became for the economy of the PRC at the turn of the 1970s – 1980s. Deng Xiaoping's reforms - the way to create a mixed economy while maintaining the power of the Communist Party. It is no coincidence that the Chinese reformer is credited with saying that if the "Kosygin" reforms succeeded, then China would again learn from the USSR laughing
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 05: 42
      -2
      Fomkin, I don’t need to talk about the Kosygin reforms. The director of the tank factory, having familiarized himself with these reforms, said: "Well, that's it, now the economy will roll down ..."
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 31 March 2021 09: 07
      +2
      Amendment regarding the election of collective farm chairmen. It has always been an elective office. But the foremen in the collective farms were appointed by their boards, and in fact by the chairmen.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 20: 56
    -5
    In 1967, an experiment was carried out at the Shchekino Chemical Combine: it was allowed to reduce unnecessary personnel, and part of the wages of those dismissed to be distributed among the rest. As a result, the number of employees of the plant decreased from 6 to 5 thousand people in two years, while the output of products, on the contrary, increased by 80%. The so-called "Zlobin method" in construction by the name of the foreman N.А. Zlobin from Zelenograd near Moscow: a team of builders took contracts for the entire cycle of work, which they pledged to complete on time and with high quality. At the same time, the members of the brigade themselves determined the volume of daily production, the distribution of duties and the amount of wages. As a result, the number of workers declined, labor productivity increased, and construction times were shortened. It would seem that all the pluses were there.
    However, the progressive experience of the Shchekinskiy Chemical Plant and N. Zlobin's brigade was not widely disseminated, since, according to party functionaries, the introduction of such a practice at other enterprises could lead to unemployment, which was unacceptable within the framework of the concept of "developed" socialism and the further construction of communism. There was also a question about the remuneration of administrative and managerial personnel, which was very difficult to reduce. As a result, things did not go beyond experiments.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 20: 59
    -4
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Will it print?

    And you ask how much their food has risen in price, and how much we have.

    Are you starving?
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 23: 09
      +8
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Are you starving?

      Do you want to send me money? As a matter of fact, there is nothing to reply to the commentary, so you go to the individual? So what is the answer?
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      And you ask how much their food has risen in price, and how much we have.

      Or don't you go to the store? And I see that the same chicken has risen in price by one and a half times since December, for example.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 31 March 2021 05: 54
        +2
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Quote: Gennady Fomkin
        Are you starving?

        Do you want to send me money?

        It is very interesting when I am asked: "Are you starving? Should I send you money?" I answer: "Yes, send ...", opponents quickly merge.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 31 March 2021 07: 04
          +1
          hi
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          It is very interesting when I am asked: "Are you starving? Should I send you money?" I answer: "Yes, send ...", opponents quickly merge.

          Well, tryndet then, do not roll bags.)))))) And so, I'm just for, since they live so well, and their medicine is excellent, and the country is developing at an unprecedented pace, and everywhere in their country there is excellent free education, and salaries in their country are more than in America, then let them transfer money from their country to our country.)))))))
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 21: 10
    -8
    Quote: tatra
    HA, but there is at least something from the 103-year-old Soviet and post-Soviet period, for which you, the enemies of the communists, would have had something to do with, for which of what you did, would you take responsibility? Or so all these 103 years and have lived "niprichemushi"?

    How do you like the video? Get organized.

    The communists themselves hunted the memory of Stalin, and now everything is like eagles, in hindsight. as well as a provocation. At the level of a third-grader. Do your best. And help the collective West in the collapse of Russia. Again, the people are not the same. laughing
  • Tagan
    Tagan 30 March 2021 21: 16
    -5
    Quote: aleksejkabanets

    Here are more of these pearls and jump to the new 17th year, then you will ask "What about us?" Look back, were you taught history at school? Read at your leisure, if you can, of course

    Such an event will not pull your contingent. Not a hat for Senka. It is certainly not for you to judge someone's skills. In addition to reading, one must also analyze. So rest for now.
    1. A_Mazkov
      A_Mazkov 30 March 2021 21: 35
      +9
      Quote: Tagan
      Quote: aleksejkabanets

      Here are more of these pearls and jump to the new 17th year, then you will ask "What about us?" Look back, were you taught history at school? Read at your leisure, if you can, of course

      Such an event will not pull your contingent. Not a hat for Senka. It is certainly not for you to judge someone's skills. In addition to reading, one must also analyze. So rest for now.

      I don’t know who and what “contingent” is included, but not so much is needed for Maidan revolutions:
      1. Those who wish to stay at the feeding trough, which "shrinks" (it is possible from the inner circle of the GDP).
      2. The passivity of the majority of Russians, who will absolutely not care what is on top for the oligarchy fussing at the trough.
      Or do you think that there will be those willing, shouting "for Putin (Miller, Sechin ... etc.)" to rush to the embrasures?
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 23: 11
      +6
      Quote: Tagan
      It is certainly not for you to judge someone's skills.

      What do you want?
      Quote: Tagan
      In addition to reading, one must also analyze.

      Captain obvious?
  • rjpthju
    rjpthju 30 March 2021 21: 20
    +7
    Well, I don't think Biden's statement will rally people who reject him around Putin. I don't care what Biden says. I am more interested in life inside Russia, but it is getting worse and worse. I can see this even without Biden.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 30 March 2021 21: 24
    -5
    Quote: tatra
    And why, then, are the enemies of the communists put forward for the "crimes" of the Soviet communists that the birth rate in the USSR has decreased in comparison with the Republic of Ingushetia? "Is this different?"

    Fertility is not directly related to wealth and well-being. There were times and much more severe, and the birth rate is higher than now.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 21: 35
    -4
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Will it print?

    And you ask how much their food has risen in price, and how much we have.

    To get started, start working as an American or at least as a Chinese.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 March 2021 23: 20
      +5
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      To get started, start working as an American or at least as a Chinese.

      By whom? And where? Your "Master of All Toilet Brushes" talked about "Strategy 2020", according to which by the end of 2020, we will have 25 million high-tech jobs. Something is not said about it on TV today. Once again, your promises were taxed. And yes, but do you know how they work in the USA?
  • rjpthju
    rjpthju 30 March 2021 21: 35
    +3
    Americans do not ship vaccines overseas until their citizens are vaccinated. This is according to the state. And we send millions of doses of the vaccine to all of us, but there is no vaccine for our citizens. Maybe there is in Moscow, but we don't have it in Komi. It doesn't matter if I will be vaccinated, I will not - it simply does not exist. I went to public services, wanted to try to sign up for vaccinations ... There is no way. What's that called? Why should I respect Putin. Let him be respected by those to whom he sends the vaccine, writes off loans, sells food products, which are becoming more expensive in our country at record harvests. In the "Economic Review" dated 09.03.2021 the heading:
    "Russia successfully feeds 1,5 billion China: the Russian Federation has recorded a record growth in food exports." Thank you, President, for taking care of the people ... Chinese. And we can get by with palm oil.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 30 March 2021 22: 23
      +2
      Quote: rjpthju
      Maybe there is in Moscow, but we don't have it in Komi. It doesn't matter if I will be vaccinated, I will not - it simply does not exist. I went to public services, wanted to try to sign up for vaccinations ... There is no way. What's that called?

      Where will you be a nice person from? Komi is big. About ten days ago I talked with a friend from the Ust-Vymsky district, so he and his wife took root without any problems. request
      1. rjpthju
        rjpthju 31 March 2021 20: 56
        +1
        Troitsko-Pechora region. I live in a taiga village. Through government services, I tried to sign up for vaccinations at the district clinic. Denied for lack of vaccines. It seems that I live in the taiga, what to worry about. And here it is even more dangerous, in the sense of spreading the infection. There is no work, everyone travels around the country, on watch, i.e. trains, planes, stations, airports. And these are nurseries. And the treatment here ... Primitive. There are no doctors, no medicines, no equipment. We lived without an X-ray for several years (Kamaz came to the regional center on schedule with the installation). This is the reality. There is no cellular connection, the Internet is satellite. 2000 rubles a month from pension is not a little, but the only way to communicate with the world, after all, everything is smooth and beautiful on TV, you cannot find out the truth.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 31 March 2021 22: 09
          +1
          Clear. I heard about the Troitsko Pechora region, but I never happened, I only got to Shchugor and Podcherye. There you have the Alinsky highway to Cherdyn through Yaksha. Once we planned to make the transition, but it did not work out. In the fall, I'm going to hunt and fish to visit a friend. It was really tense with doctors and work in Komi. hi
  • Tagan
    Tagan 30 March 2021 21: 36
    -3
    Quote: A_Mazkov

    The problem is that inflation and ruble depreciation gobble up the result of the "hard work".
    I just worked hard, but here both gasoline and food went up in price. Moreover, housing and communal services rates have grown.
    You can, of course, tighten the belt and not rock the boat, but it seems that there are fewer and fewer people willing to "treat with understanding".
    Revolutions are not made by hungry people.
    They are made by the well-fed, which they begin to feed poorly.

    Something I agree with you.
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 30 March 2021 21: 38
    +6
    What nonsense the author wrote !!! The Russians rallied around Putin because of Biden's words ???? ha-aha-aha ... what does this author smoke?
    1. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov 30 March 2021 22: 48
      +5
      Check out her articles in WP, there is a more difficult situation fool madam on fire