The first two "Varshavyanka" for the Pacific Fleet began exercises in the Baltic Sea

The first two "Varshavyanka" built for the Pacific fleet, went to the Baltic Sea to conduct exercises. This was reported by the press service of the Western Military District.

According to the report, the crews of the Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky and Volkhov submarines will work out actions to carry out combat missions at sea by a single ship. Also, as part of the exercises, both submarines will attack the surface ship, and then they will evade search groups of the conditional enemy, the role of which will be played by the ships of the Baltic Fleet.

In addition, at one of the Baltic Fleet's sea ranges, the submarines will conduct deep-sea diving, where they will check the operation of all systems and mechanisms under conditions of immersion to great depths.

As previously reported, the submarines "Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky" and "Volkhov" built for the Pacific Fleet will make the transition to their place of permanent deployment in May this year along the southern route through the Mediterranean Sea, the Suez Canal and the Indian Ocean. On the way, they will have to be accompanied by support vessels - tugs and a tanker.

Before that, there was evidence that the transition of submarines will take place along the Northern Sea Route in the summer months.

The diesel-electric submarines Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky and Volkhov are the first and second submarines of the 636.3 Varshavyanka project out of six for the Pacific Fleet, the construction contract for which was signed by the RF Ministry of Defense and Admiralty Shipyards in September 2016. They entered the Navy in 2019 and 2020, respectively.

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[rocket757]

This is already a real DEAL ... there is no other way to call it.

[xorek]

Quote: rocket757

This is already a real DEAL ... there is no other way to call it.

Sly submarines, quiet .. !!!
Well, God forbid that everything goes without a hitch ..

[Grandfather]

In addition, at one of the Baltic Fleet's sea ranges, the submarines will conduct deep-sea diving, where they will check the operation of all systems and mechanisms under conditions of immersion to great depths.

I hope they will find such a hole ... the Baltic is too small.

[Aag]

Quote: Dead Day

In addition, at one of the Baltic Fleet's sea ranges, the submarines will conduct deep-sea diving, where they will check the operation of all systems and mechanisms under conditions of immersion to great depths.

I hope they will find such a hole ... the Baltic is too small.

Rezanulo ..
However, from Viki: the maximum depth of the "Varshavyanok" is 300m, the maximum depth of the Baltic Sea is 470m.
Another thing is surprising: to drive through Suez ... (with 500 ships stuck ... - a cunning move (?)).
But what about the North. pestilence. way? Demonstration? Somehow unconvincing (with tugs, tankers, with not accepted into the fleet ...)

[lucul]

Another thing is surprising: to drive through Suez ... (with 500 ships stuck ... - a cunning move (?)).
But what about the North. pestilence. way?

The boats are not nuclear - they need to float, and there is ice.

[Aag]

Quote: lucul

Another thing is surprising: to drive through Suez ... (with 500 ships stuck ... - a cunning move (?)).
But what about the North. pestilence. way?

The boats are not nuclear - they need to float, and there is ice.

Not convincing. In the sense that has already been announced, it is declared at the highest level about the possibility of wire NK (!) Sevmor by ...
Another point, let the experts correct it, -to drag the (not yet adopted into service) an expensive "apparatus" through ... all ...- immediately hand over signatures, noises, external features to all adversaries ...
Was it really all my teachers were lying about the secrecy regime ?!

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: AAG

Another point, let the experts correct it, -to drag the (not yet adopted into service) an expensive "apparatus" through ... all ...- immediately hand over signatures, noises, external features to all adversaries ...
Was it really all my teachers were lying about the secrecy regime ?!

First, the vehicles were accepted into the fleet.
Secondly, there is absolutely nothing secret about them, they are old, supplied to different countries, and exactly the same boats from the Black Sea Fleet have long dangled in the Mediterranean Sea, periodically passing the Bosphorus. Their signatures have already been studied and re-examined.
And by the way, submarines usually do not go along the northern route on their own, but on board a foreign truck.

[Aag]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Quote: AAG

Another point, let the experts correct it, -to drag the (not yet adopted into service) an expensive "apparatus" through ... all ...- immediately hand over signatures, noises, external features to all adversaries ...
Was it really all my teachers were lying about the secrecy regime ?!

First, the vehicles were accepted into the fleet.
Secondly, there is absolutely nothing secret about them, they are old, supplied to different countries, and exactly the same boats from the Black Sea Fleet have long dangled in the Mediterranean Sea, periodically passing the Bosphorus. Their signatures have already been studied and re-examined.
And by the way, submarines usually do not go along the northern route on their own, but on board a foreign truck.

Ie, now there is no foreign truck?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: AAG

Ie, now there is no foreign truck?

Back in the fall, it was announced that the submarines would be sent by truck in the summer through the northern route. Now they have outplayed, apparently the crews have decided to train, and maybe some other tasks in the Mediterranean / Red Seas or in the Indian Ocean.

[Aag]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Quote: AAG

Ie, now there is no foreign truck?

Back in the fall, it was announced that the submarines would be sent by truck in the summer through the northern route. Now they have outplayed, apparently the crews have decided to train, and maybe some other tasks in the Mediterranean / Red Seas or in the Indian Ocean.

Sorry, while I sprinkled your answer, with additions, "editing time has expired" ...
There are many reasons ...
By the way, as you write, it is possible that there are tasks on the path of transition ...

[g1v2]

Most likely they will go to Syria, and maybe also to Sudan. Again, you need to study the theater.

[Serg65]

Quote: AAG

But what about the North. pestilence

Is the Northern Sea Route open all year round? For this type of ship?

[Aag]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: AAG

But what about the North. pestilence

Is the Northern Sea Route open all year round? For this type of ship?

Not special. But it seems that for submarines such a transition is easier to organize, and, most importantly, it is more useful in terms of interaction, and even more so if the Russian Federation publicly declares its interests in the Arctic. Why am I wrong?

[Serg65]

Quote: AAG

What am I wrong?

You are ready to undertake an adventurous naval transport operation and endanger new warships. without even knowing about the situation on the route in the winter-autumn period! For what?

[Aag]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: AAG

What am I wrong?

You are ready to undertake an adventurous naval transport operation and endanger new warships. without even knowing about the situation on the route in the winter-autumn period! For what?

I am not ready, not authorized, not pretending.
But there are questions.
The Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet do not interact at all? With each other? With the command of the Navy, the General Staff? The Northern Fleet does not have control of the "situation on the route in the winter-autumn (although it is far from autumn)?" Is it not for this that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is building up its Arctic grouping, so that - including - regardless of foreign policy, weather and other conditions, be able to transfer forces and means?
In my opinion, it is a great opportunity (I mean the northern passage) to work out a lot of questions, to establish interaction; save the service life of new equipment, money and time. Unless, of course, there are no other tasks on the route, about which they are silent ... Well, except for knocking around in a traffic jam in front of the S. channel))).
Answering your question, "for what?" ...

[Serg65]

Quote: AAG

The Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet do not interact at all? With each other? With the command of the Navy, the General Staff? The Northern Fleet does not have control of the "situation on the route in the winter-autumn (although it is far from autumn)?" Is it not for this that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is building up its Arctic grouping, so that - including - regardless of foreign policy, weather and other conditions, be able to transfer forces and means?

Own, interact. That is why the boats, which do not have ice reinforcement, are being pulled south! To navigate these boats ... again, behind the icebreaker .... along the NSR, you need to wait for July, but the General Staff of the Russian Federation apparently does not intend to wait so long.

Quote: AAG

although it is far from autumn

Sorry, a mistake has crept in ... WINTER-SPRING period.

Quote: AAG

Unless, of course, there are no other tasks on the route, about which they are silent

Same option .. real-world combat training ... well worth it!

[figwam]

in May this year along the southern route through the Mediterranean Sea, the Suez Canal and the Indian Ocean.

There can be weekly traffic jams in Suez.

[Barberry25]

well, it means they will be out in the Mediterranean for combat

[Uncle lee]

The first two "Varshavyanka" for the Pacific Fleet began exercises in the Baltic Sea

Let the crews get used to it, the mechanisms run in and "get used" into the ship.

[xorek]

Quote: Uncle Lee

The first two "Varshavyanka" for the Pacific Fleet began exercises in the Baltic Sea

Let the crews get used to it, the mechanisms run in and "get used" into the ship.

That's right! There are many more NATO anti-submarine systems Vladimir! Let them maneuver and test the systems of counteraction .. And then on duty in a given area!

[Aag]

Quote: Uncle Lee

The first two "Varshavyanka" for the Pacific Fleet began exercises in the Baltic Sea

Let the crews get used to it, the mechanisms run in and "get used" into the ship.

I have nothing against ... However, with a normal, planned BP, simulators are tormented first, then the "units" of their comrades, neighboring Fleets on internships, are put into operation, put in their "apparatus" ... In the Strategic Missile Forces it was like this ...

[Serg65]

Quote: AAG

with a normal, planned BP, simulators are tormented first,

So they tortured ... at the Joint Training Center ... and for more than one month!

[Aag]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: AAG

with a normal, planned BP, simulators are tormented first,

So they tortured ... at the Joint Training Center ... and for more than one month!

Well, if so, if everything is all right ...
In any case, - to the crew, Good luck, professionalism; technique, - reliability and reliability ... To the command, - Patriotism and literacy in decision-making!
Somehow I already skipped on the forum about the absence of replacement crews ... Unfortunately, when reading the lists of dead submariners (I'm talking about iconic accidents, incidents) you almost always come across the names of the seconded specialists. Who from the sublaaa can comment on this ?!
Yes, after Serdyukov, it also happened in the PGRK of the Strategic Missile Forces that to bring a regiment to a submarine, attract people from a neighboring regiment, etc ... How about this now? I heard that in the USSR there were two, three crews per submarine ... ...

[Cowbra]

NATO found Varshavyanka there in the Mediterranean Sea?

[xorek]

Quote: Cowbra

NATO found Varshavyanka there in the Mediterranean Sea?

They surfaced unexpectedly and proudly left on the surface, in front of the NATO armada .. Under the march "Farewell to the Slav"! ..It seems like it was ..

[Nikon O'Conor]

I would like to look)) At the faces of amerskih marines))

[Pavel57]

It is better to drive boats along the NSR in every sense, unless you shoot at a real target in the Mediterranean Sea.

In general, for such a case, you need to have a lighter carrier.

[garri-lin]

Why a lighter? A long trek like this is great training for the crew.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Pavel57

In general, for such a case, you need to have a lighter carrier.

The submarines "Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky" and "Volkhov" built for the Pacific Fleet will make the transition to the place of permanent deployment in May this year along the southern route through Mediterranean Sea, Suez Canal and Indian Ocean. On the way, they will have to be accompanied by support vessels - tugs and a tanker.

Maybe faster, cheaper and more convenient in a similar way?

[WHAT IS]

Well, for the strength of a solid body! Success to the teams in the exercises!

[Alien From]

Excellent, success to the sailors to the submariners!

[AlexVas44]

They probably rushed to name the Volkhov diesel-electric submarine for the Pacific Fleet. Maybe it was better somehow - "Shikotan".

[Pavel57]

Quote: garri-lin

Why a lighter? A long trek like this is great training for the crew.

The lighter carrier will preserve the resource, otherwise after the transition it is necessary to immediately undergo repairs.

[Andrey Korotkov]

Through Suez it's cool, by the signature you can find out the type of PL, maybe ours want them to be remembered by their names） And then ... they were only known by sight （joke if that）.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Andrey Korotkov

by the signature you can find out the type of submarine

Do you think that they will not be recognized in the Baltic Sea yet?
Yes, immediately after leaving St. Petersburg for the dam, all their signatures will be recorded in all details.

[Andrey Korotkov]

To hell with the signature, the SOSUS detection system, let the adversaries remember by name）.

[Ros 56]

Well, now the screeching will be from nato-like, even plug your ears. And we, like there at Krylov's, and Vaska listens, but eats.

[Tests]

In 2020, didn’t the Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky nuclear ship go out for exercises in the Baltic? After all, there were reports in the media that the boat dived to a depth of 190 m and was based at Baltiysk. So, it looks like NATO has a "portrait of her" since last year ... But the bearded devils, it's not a sin to "calibrate" the Pacific Fleet boats in Syria if they go through the Mediterranean Sea. After all, the crew should have combat experience, however, not all Black Sea submariners have it ...