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The power and timing of the start of tests of the Turkish engine for tanks Altay

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Turkey announced the start date of testing its own engine tanks Altay. Recall that these main battle tanks, created in Turkey, have encountered problems in terms of the supply of foreign components. The EU countries supported the anti-Turkish sanctions imposed in the United States, and also introduced their own restrictive measures. After that, Ankara had to work on replacing those blocks and assemblies that were planned to be ordered, for example, in Germany.


Ismail Demir, head of the Turkish Defense Industry Directorate, said that the Altai tank engines being developed in Turkey had already been put on a test bench. Its tests will begin in April.

In an interview with Turkish journalists, Ismail Demir said that the engine being created is a 12-cylinder, V-shaped, water-cooled.

Named and engine power for Turkish tanks Altay. According to Demir, the power will be 1500 hp.

It is noteworthy that quite recently the Turkish media wrote that Ankara is going to consider the option of installing a South Korean engine on a promising MBT. Now it is indicated that South Korean engines can be used on several of the original armored vehicles, and a further series will be equipped with Turkish-made engines.

For reference: Turkey has been working on the Altai tank project since 2007. Initially, it was supposed to be equipped with German engines from Friedrichshafen GmbH with a capacity of the same 1500 hp. But Germany has imposed an embargo on the supply of military equipment and components to Turkey, accusing Ankara of misconduct in Syria and the eastern Mediterranean.
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  1. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 30 March 2021 11: 18
    +10
    Such a unit is a complex matter. If the Turks master the production (it does not matter, the license or their own), this is a very great achievement and an indicator of the level of their industry. The next stage is Marine diesel engines. The Turkish fleet is also large.
    1. xorek
      xorek 30 March 2021 11: 50
      -2
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Such a unit is a complex matter. If the Turks master the production (it does not matter, the license or their own), this is a very great achievement and an indicator of the level of their industry. The next stage is Marine diesel engines. The Turkish fleet is also large.

      In general, you are right, but I think they will not be able to increase it .. Too Turks, many have become angry in the world .. Question How it will all be, I don’t know. hi
      An interesting name for the Altai engines ... A hint?
      1. seti
        seti 30 March 2021 12: 15
        +4
        Quote: xorek
        An interesting name for the Altai engines ... A hint?

        The tank is named after their general by name - Fakhrettin Altai.
        1. xorek
          xorek 30 March 2021 12: 33
          -3
          Quote: seti
          The tank is named after their general by name - Fakhrettin Altai.

          Got it, thanks for the info .. hi
      2. venik
        venik 30 March 2021 13: 13
        +2
        Quote: xorek
        An interesting name for the Altai engines ... A hint?

        ========
        These are not engines, this is the tank itself ... In honor of the general, during the revolution and the war of independence (1919-1923)
    2. yehat2
      yehat2 30 March 2021 11: 53
      0
      the Turks have developed rather not industry, but relations with suppliers.
      They certainly can do something themselves, but the most technological and important components are all imports. Weapon, electronics, engine and a number of other components.
      The Turks themselves make mainly parts that do not require super-technologies, but they do it with high quality.
      Personally, I am very interested in how much life this tank has on the harp.
    3. Dodikson
      Dodikson 30 March 2021 11: 58
      -3
      Well, if the license is an indicator, then the Arabs are good manufacturers of weapons. for grenade launchers do. the truth is Arabic in this only the bricks from which the building was built where the finished production lines were delivered. but who cares.
  2. Grandfather
    Grandfather 30 March 2021 11: 21
    +3
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Such a unit is a complex matter. If the Turks master the production (it does not matter, the license or their own), this is a very great achievement and an indicator of the level of their industry. The next stage is Marine diesel engines. The Turkish fleet is also large.

    yes, few countries can boast of quality diesels.
    1. Dodikson
      Dodikson 30 March 2021 11: 59
      0
      Duc if you bring a ready-made line and deliver a complete set. even Madagascar will be able to do this.
      what boast is that? what were you able to pay for the lines and litsuhu?
  3. Pereira
    Pereira 30 March 2021 11: 25
    +7
    In Germany, were they happy about the news? Have you achieved what you wanted?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 30 March 2021 11: 33
      +3
      It will be a joke if the Turks, then, begin to put their diesels on the Leo2 when upgrading ..... first themselves, then others. And there are not only tanks, but also 155mm howitzers (both Korean and German)
      1. Dodikson
        Dodikson 30 March 2021 12: 00
        0
        the joke will be that the same German diesels will be on the altai, just on paper they will be South Korean
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 30 March 2021 13: 29
          +1
          Koreans are not Turks .... they reproduce well and localize completely
          1. Dodikson
            Dodikson 30 March 2021 13: 31
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            the Turks have only recently put on a strategy to buy production lines.
            but they also "produce" only key components and often from foreign components.
            so far, the Turks for the most part just have the localization of the assembly.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 30 March 2021 13: 34
              0
              The end of globalization in the military sphere.
    2. Alien From
      Alien From 30 March 2021 17: 25
      0
      Let these spiders in the jar devour each other. Ugh on them.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 30 March 2021 11: 27
    +4
    The power and timing of the start of tests of the Turkish engine for tanks Altay
    They work ... and the result in this case appears and in no other way.
  5. prior
    prior 30 March 2021 11: 30
    -4
    Even if the Turks make an engine and get their own decent tank, the possibility of a significant
    this does not exclude the expansion of the straits. laughing
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 30 March 2021 11: 36
      +5
      This will only say that there will be a competitor in price and quality for such machines as T90M, Leo 2A7, Abrams, etc. ....... moreover, Turkey is in NATO and, above all, Germany, France and Britannia. They sell a lot to Muslim countries.
      1. prior
        prior 30 March 2021 11: 42
        0
        Alas, we surrendered our sales market together with the Warsaw Pact and the collapse of the USSR. And it is unrealistic to do well and cheaply without extensive sales markets.
        We will not lose from the fact that NATO will be "dogging" among themselves because of the sale of their equipment.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 30 March 2021 12: 14
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          Quote: prior
          Alas, we surrendered our sales market together with the Warsaw Pact and the collapse of the USSR.

          Sales market? What you call a sales market was nothing more than the supply of cheap Soviet-made weapons within the framework of the mass organization of the SVD bloc in response to the creation of NATO. You can analyze the entire line of invented and created military equipment in the USSR. Some developments did not have analogues, while others were designed for mass use, for mechanized waves, etc. etc. Documentary videos about the exercises of that time speak volumes, in particular, about what kind of war the generals were preparing for ...
          Quote: prior
          And it is unrealistic to do well and cheaply without extensive sales markets.

          Strange reasoning. And if you learn to do well, a lot and cheaply for yourself, for your own needs? Maybe there will appear (already exist) a support group (real support) from countries that need just such a technique? There is a country with oil reserves. There are technologies for its processing, there are refineries where the production of diesel fuel is cheaper than the production of gasoline, however:

          The question is: to whom and what will progress in production under capitalism bring? Maybe this money will be used to accelerate vaccination of Russians against COVID-19, which, with its own production, made up just over two percent of the population? Interesting, isn't it? For comparison and awareness:
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 30 March 2021 12: 48
            +3
            T90M is no longer cheap and free ..... it's a product for those who pay and don't want to depend on Western sanctions ..... for anything.
      2. Dodikson
        Dodikson 30 March 2021 12: 01
        -2
        his filling is still western (although some of it is still South Korean). there that they will not lose much.
        Here is the fact that Altai will be supplied to Muslim countries, which are Turkish only assemblies, instead of Abrams, this is just in their hands
  6. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 30 March 2021 11: 31
    0
    It is noteworthy that quite recently the Turkish media wrote that Ankara is going to consider the option of installing a South Korean engine on a promising MBT.

    Do not consider. Turkish company BMC signed the agreement with South Korean companies Doosan and S&T Dynamics on the supply of DV27K engines and EST15K transmissions for Altay tanks. The problem is that the South Korean automatic transmission is not very reliable.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 30 March 2021 11: 42
      0
      Will be purchased 250 kits for the production of the first tanks.
    2. CastroRuiz
      CastroRuiz 30 March 2021 11: 44
      -1
      Da. A germanskuyu Renk nepoluchat v tom chisle i ot KR. Sankcii.
      1. alpamys
        alpamys 30 March 2021 12: 15
        0
        Quote: CastroRuiz
        Da. A germanskuyu Renk nepoluchat v tom chisle i ot KR. Sankcii.
        Renk know, this is MAN's daughter, and what kind of beast is KR?
        1. CastroRuiz
          CastroRuiz 30 March 2021 13: 47
          0
          KR mezhdunarodnoe sokrashchenie Korean republic.
  7. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 30 March 2021 11: 45
    -3
    Shto mne govorit, shto etot dizel "tureckoy razrabotki" budet iz UA.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 30 March 2021 12: 48
      +1
      South Korea
      1. CastroRuiz
        CastroRuiz 30 March 2021 13: 52
        -1
        Dvizhok mozhno, da iz KR.
        No otkuda KP?
        Iz KR khlam, iz FRG (Renk) nepoluchat / sankcii. Svoyikh ​​neto.
        Vot ikh bolshie druzia, UA.
        No ....
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 30 March 2021 14: 04
          0
          KP-question ..... bye.
          1. CastroRuiz
            CastroRuiz 30 March 2021 14: 08
            0
            Bolshoy vopros koli khoroshuyu, nadezhnuyu KP k tankovim dvizhkam tozhe malo stran vipuskaet. A eshcho vopros scepit KR licenziu MTU s KP. MTU rozchitan na KP Renk.
            Krugom beda u TR. :)
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 30 March 2021 14: 09
              +2
              Write properly.
              1. CastroRuiz
                CastroRuiz 30 March 2021 15: 06
                +1
                Ya ne russkiy. Mne na azbuke pisat ochen slozhno (na klave bukvi iskat) i tak pishu na russkom foneticheski.
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 30 March 2021 19: 10
                  0
                  You can google through the translator ... but they will follow you.
  8. Constanty
    Constanty 30 March 2021 11: 59
    +1
    Initially, it was supposed to be equipped with German engines from Friedrichshafen GmbH with a capacity of the same 1500 hp.


    MTU Friedrichshafen GmbH (Motoren- und Turbinen-Union Friedrichshafen GmbH)

    Later, information appeared about the Perkins engine from Caterpillar, then about built in cooperation with Italy ...

    It's hard to believe in building a tank engine so quickly. Even in South Korea, it took much longer. Even in Russia, it takes decades to develop and fine-tune the ChTZ 12N360 (A-85-3A) engine.

    Turkish wonders
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 30 March 2021 12: 10
      +1
      Quote: Constanty
      MTU Friedrichshafen GmbH (Motoren- und Turbinen-Union Friedrichshafen GmbH)

      This is the former Maybach, who made tank engines in 3 Reich.
      1. Constanty
        Constanty 30 March 2021 12: 33
        +2
        In a sense, yes, this is the former Maybach-Motorenbau GmbH. In 1966, following the merger with Mercedes-Benz Motorenbau Friedrichshafen GmbH, Maybach Mercedes-Benz Motorenbau GmbH was founded.
        In 1968 MAN Turbo GmbH and Daimler-Benz formed a new joint venture, originally known as Entwicklungsgesellschaft für Turbomotoren GmbH, which combined their interests in the design and manufacture of aircraft engines.
        In July 1969, this joint venture was replaced by Motoren- und Turbinen-Union GmbH (MTU), which took over the aircraft engine and high-speed diesel engine business from MAN Turbo and Daimler-Benz.
        1. alpamys
          alpamys 30 March 2021 13: 06
          0
          MAN turbo is also already history, they changed the name to what xer.
  9. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 30 March 2021 12: 04
    0
    Cheerful uncle))) from the test bench to mass production, it happens that more than one year passes. There is a big difference between an engine assembled in a laboratory, top-class locksmiths and in a simple factory.
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 30 March 2021 14: 51
      0
      Quote: TermNachTER
      Cheerful uncle))) from the test bench to mass production, it happens that more than one year passes. There is a big difference between an engine assembled in a laboratory, top-class locksmiths and in a simple factory.

      You think too highly of German top-class locksmiths ..
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 30 March 2021 17: 39
        0
        Do you drive a Turkish-made Mercedes?)))
        1. alpamys
          alpamys 30 March 2021 17: 55
          0
          I go to the GLK which is assembled in Germany.
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 30 March 2021 18: 16
            0
            And why not on the miracle of Turkish design thought?)))
            1. alpamys
              alpamys 30 March 2021 18: 37
              0
              And why am I a German living in Germany to ride a Turkish cart? I don’t even know what brands of cars the Turks produce, in Turkey I saw an analogue to Soviet gigs and the entire European line .. can I don’t know what?
              1. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer 30 March 2021 19: 29
                0
                There are excellent Fiats and Renault of Turkish production))) there was a rumor that the Turks wanted a Merc - 123 to buy, to do at home, but it was not confirmed)))
  10. Grandfather
    Grandfather 30 March 2021 12: 15
    0
    Quote: CastroRuiz
    Shto mne govorit, shto etot dizel "tureckoy razrabotki" budet iz UA.

    write in Russian ... and no, not from Ukraine, from Korea there will be engines.
    1. CastroRuiz
      CastroRuiz 30 March 2021 13: 49
      0
      A kto im dast nadyozhnuyu KP?
      Ta iz KR khlam. FRG im Renk nedayut ibo sankcii. Svuu neimeyut. Ostaetsa UA.
      1. alpamys
        alpamys 30 March 2021 14: 39
        0
        Quote: CastroRuiz
        A kto im dast nadyozhnuyu KP?
        Ta iz KR khlam. FRG im Renk nedayut ibo sankcii. Svuu neimeyut. Ostaetsa UA.

        Sanctions for newspaper readers only wink
  11. Scipio African
    Scipio African 30 March 2021 19: 10
    0
    What a contagious game world of tanks, here's another "great" tank power drew