Named submarine, which will be the first serial carrier of hypersonic missiles "Zircon"

March 30 2021

It became known which submarine of the Russian Navy will be the first serial submarine armed with the latest Zircon hypersonic missiles.

In newspaper reports "News" it is said that such a submarine will be "Perm", serial number - 155. The submarine was laid down in 2016. At the moment, the launch of the "Perm" has not yet been carried out.

The submarine "Perm" belongs to the project 885M "Yasen-M". This is the modernization of the project 885 "Ash". Moreover, it is noted that after the installation of "Zircons" on the armament of this submarine, all subsequent submarines of this project will begin to arm with similar hypersonic weapons.

According to the plan, the Zircon hypersonic missile system is to pass all stages of testing in the current (2021) year. Serial deliveries of it for equipping submarine carriers will begin, again - according to the plans of the command of the Russian Navy, from 2022.

Earlier it was noted that the underwater missile cruisers 885M "Yasen-M" will receive "revolutionary weapons." Such weapons as sea-based hypersonic missile systems, at the moment, no one has fleet the world, except for the Russian Navy.

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Grandfather 30 March 2021 06: 31
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Named submarine, which will be the first serial carrier of hypersonic missiles "Zircon"
...a military secret...
1. sergo1914 30 March 2021 06: 49
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  Quote: Dead Day
  Named submarine, which will be the first serial carrier of hypersonic missiles "Zircon"
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  Journalism...
  1. Lech from Android. 30 March 2021 07: 03
    
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    Cartoons.
    Our response to the Anglo-Saxon sanctions ... more sanctions ... more Zircons ... the Petrel looms on the horizon. And I don't even want to think about what will appear behind it ... the flight of thought of designers of military equipment is limitless.
    1. Olgovich 30 March 2021 08: 15
      
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      Quote: Lech from Android.
      more Zircons ... the Petrel looms on the horizon.
      
      During state tests, the launch of Zircons is not excluded volley- according to a source in the MO
2. xorek 30 March 2021 10: 43
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  Named submarine, which will be the first serial carrier of hypersonic missiles "Zircon"
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  Well, yes, to be sent urgently ..))))
  And then it turns out that all the submarines are equipped, and even missile boats ..
mark1 30 March 2021 06: 51
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They will test on one. will be installed on another (not yet built) ... if there is logic, then I do not catch it. I thought that thanks to the open architecture, it could be "stick" on any boat of the series with minimal modifications.
1. figwam 30 March 2021 08: 05
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  it is possible on any boat of the series with minimal modifications.
  
  For this, a universal launcher UKSK 3S14 was created for Onyx, Caliber, Zircon.
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    By the way. Zircon has been flying for ten years already! And only the last 2-3 years they started talking about it in the media. That is, the process is underway. And if he goes, what will happen after Zircon?
2. Kalmar 30 March 2021 09: 21
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  Quote: mark1
  I thought that thanks to the open architecture, it could be "stick" on any boat of the series with minimal modifications.
  
  This is not a computer, plug'n'play is not provided. A new rocket needs its own equipment for launch preparation and other such operations. Apparently, the shipbuilders to the last in "Zircon" were not very sure, since they did not introduce this equipment in the first four 885Ms: so that later not to alter the almost finished boat.
  1. mark1 30 March 2021 16: 51
    
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    This is not a computer, plug'n'play is not provided
    
    Yes, full ... There is just a lot of computers here, but in all other respects, even the connectors may coincide
    1. Kalmar 30 March 2021 17: 04
      
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      Yes, full ... There is just a lot of computers here, but in all other respects, even the connectors may coincide
      
      I, apparently, did not quite correctly put it. It will not work just to bring a certain chest with electronics, plug it into an outlet and immediately get the opportunity to launch new missiles. And it's not just about the connectors: the equipment must be correctly integrated into the overall complex of ship systems and nothing must be broken. And this also requires certain costs for the integration itself, and for subsequent checks and tests.
      1. mark1 30 March 2021 17: 20
        
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        Quote: Kalmar
        the equipment must be correctly integrated into the general complex of ship systems and nothing must be broken.
        
        This is why open architecture is used in modern BIUS. That is why I was surprised, especially after the system was adapted on ash-tree (with minimal, as I suppose, modifications), and then (how it turns out) it will be dismantled for some reason.
        
        Kalmar 30 March 2021 17: 24
        
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        Quote: mark1
        This is why open architecture is used in modern BIUS
        
        Not so long ago, VO discussed the BIUS topic for our submarines. It doesn't smell like openness; any modification is done for some obscene money. The article was about the difficulties with domestic underwater weapons, as I remember.
        
        The comment was deleted.
Vladimir_2U 30 March 2021 06: 51
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For work on the coast, you need a range, and for work on ships, you need a seeker, I hope the Zircon complex has all this.
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  Quote: Vladimir_2U
  For work on the coast, you need a range, and for work on ships, you need a seeker, I hope the Zircon complex has all this.
  
  yes, everything is there, except for the "analogs" ...
2. figwam 30 March 2021 08: 11
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  To work along the coast, you need a range, and to work on ships, you need a seeker
  
  Everything is...
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    Everything is...
    
    The credibility of the source after the words "Frunze heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser" does not directly raise the slightest doubt! Well, where did you see and hear about the GOS and the Zircon range in the video, tell me!
    1. figwam 30 March 2021 08: 38
      
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      Well, where did you see and hear about the GOS and the Zircon range in the video, tell me!
      
      Oh, so you need secret data and blueprints! This is not for me, this is for you at the FSB.
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        Oh, so you need secret data and blueprints! This is not for me, this is for you at the FSB.
        Oh, how stupid to cover up, so on secrecy and FSB links. Your "source" confuses a strike cruiser with an aircraft carrier, and does not say a word about the GOS and the range of Zircon, only about satellite reconnaissance, you understand that, no?
        
        figwam 30 March 2021 09: 07
        
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        you got it, no?
        
        It's time for you to go back to school)))
        
        Vladimir_2U 30 March 2021 09: 14
        
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        It's time for you to go back to school)))
        
        Have you watched the video?
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    Everything is..
    
    Keep Vladimir_2U: the video tells confusingly about "Liana"; not a word at all about missiles and their GOS. But there is a rather bold message about how passive reconnaissance satellites can track cars. The reliability is off scale, yes)
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Judging by the fact that Yaseni M will be armed with them starting with "Perm", and zircon is still being tested, we will see the first carrier no earlier than 23 years. Does anyone have infa on launching? I wonder when the first submarine readiness date is announced Well, there will be relatively few of them, even if the "old" version of Ash is not armed.
1. NKT 30 March 2021 07: 12
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  Perm will most likely be lowered next year, and there will be 4 more Ash-M in front of it, and after it there will be three more. Total 8 Ash-M
2. sergo1914 30 March 2021 07: 13
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  Does anyone have infa on launching? It is interesting when the first submarine readiness date is announced.
  
  We are not burning ... we are not burning ... We must work more carefully.
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    Do you naively think that "their" spies find out such information on the forums?
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  Quote: TerraSandera
  Judging by the fact that they will arm Yaseni M starting from "Perm
  
  come to Perm, you will be taught to think and write correctly.
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    Will they teach you to be sarcastic and brag there too? Then I'm sorry, I don't want to.
4. figwam 30 March 2021 08: 10
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  Does anyone have infa on launching?
  
  Based on the 2023 schedule.
5. Kalmar 30 March 2021 09: 31
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  Judging by the fact that they will be armed with Yaseny M starting from "Perm", and zircon is still being tested, we will see the first carrier no earlier than 23 years
  
  "Perm" is planned to be transferred to the fleet in 2024. Unless, of course, the timeframes float. "Kazan" somehow suspiciously spent a lot of time on sea trials; apparently, there are difficulties with the development of this series in production.
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    Here I am about it. But we hope that everything will be on time, and not as recently.
6. venik 30 March 2021 13: 07
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  Judging by the fact that Yaseni M will be armed with them starting with "Perm", and zircon is still being tested, we will see the first carrier no earlier than 23 years.
  
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  Well, first we ALREADY see the underwater carrier "Zircon": this is "Severodvinsk". And "Perm" is the first serial boat with "Zircon" ..... Catch the difference?
  1. Kalmar 30 March 2021 17: 10
    
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    Well, we ALREADY see the first underwater carrier of Zircon: this is Severodvinsk
    
    It seems like no "Zircons" have ever been fired from him. The first test launch is planned only by June.
    1. venik 30 March 2021 21: 07
      
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      It seems like no "Zircons" have ever been fired from him. The first test launch is planned only by June.
      
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      What is foreseen another The nuclear submarine with which the Zircons are going to be tested?
      1. Kalmar 30 March 2021 23: 12
        
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        And what, another nuclear submarine is foreseen, with which the Zircons are going to be tested?
        
        This year they plan to finally hand over the Kazan to the fleet. On it, perhaps, it will be more interesting to test the new weapon: after all, the rest of the Ash trees will be built according to the same project - 885M.
  2. TerraSandera 30 March 2021 21: 33
    
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    Yes, thanks for the clarification. Here I would rather say the first carrier armed with them. But it turned out how it happened
Thrifty 30 March 2021 07: 33
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For what blurt out? Here it is, the notorious "secrecy mode" in action! !! For some it is high time to step on the tongue! In the glorious Soviet era, they would have simply been shot for such a thing! !!
1. Ka-52 30 March 2021 07: 45
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  Here it is, the notorious "secrecy mode" in action! !!
  
  the main principle of modern weapons is prevention and deterrence. According to this principle, on the contrary, the better the enemy is aware of our potential capabilities, the better. Previously, there was a different approach, earlier weapons were developed as instruments of real war.
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    the main principle of modern weapons is prevention and deterrence.
    
    or provoking to act, while there is no "big slingshot"?
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      or provoking to act, while there is no "big slingshot"?
      
      As soon as animals in the course of evolution have developed a brain for complex social behavior, the grin of their teeth (tousled hair, increase in size, special attacking postures) became a clear signal to the enemy - I am ready for your attack, beware! Nobody is going to provoke an attack. The presence of weapons (from teeth to missiles with nuclear warheads) is a demonstrator of intimidation of a potential enemy. No need to cast a shadow over the fence
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    Quite a correct judgment and a natural plus.
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Quote: Ka-52
No need to cast a shadow over the fence

if I know that the "counterpart" has a "makar" in his pocket, believe me, I will not wait.
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  if I know that the "counterpart" has a "makar" in his pocket, believe me, I will not wait.
  
  The voyage of Trump's aircraft carriers to the shores of the DPRK suggests otherwise. The presence of "Makar" in the chubby turned out to be more significant
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    if I know that the "counterpart" has a "makar" in his pocket, believe me, I will not wait.
    
    The voyage of Trump's aircraft carriers to the shores of the DPRK suggests otherwise.
    
    something, but the Americans do not have to "show off", a nation like that, they only "tough it out" to understand. And what is bad, they are already instilling this habit in Europe, which has been "raging" more than once.
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Yes, "Zircons" is a nightmare of Western "hawks" .. Well, they will not bring Russia to its knees, soon again the protests will pay for the swamp and will bang across the Donbass, as always
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"serial number 155". 165 then.
Old26 30 March 2021 21: 51
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Quote: Kalmar
This is not a computer, plug'n'play is not provided

Yes, full ... There is just a lot of computers here, but in all other respects, even the connectors may coincide

The connectors may coincide, but this does not mean at all that the Onyx and Caliber missile fire control devices are also suitable for Zircon. In fact, the boat version of "Zircon" is a "pig in a poke". To begin with, they shoot from the surface position (there is nothing new in this, except for the exit from the boat launcher), but shooting from under the water can bring surprises. So until the flight design with nuclear submarines is completed, there can be no talk of any state.

Quote: Vladimir_2U
For work on the coast, you need a range, and for work on ships, you need a seeker, I hope the Zircon complex has all this.

Maybe there is. Only while the EMNIP tests were at a distance of less than 500 km, it is not known whether the seeker was working at the same time.

Quote: TerraSandera
Does anyone have infa on launching? It is interesting when the first submarine readiness date is announced.

Storming the Depth talks about launching in 2022 and entering service in 2023-2024

Quote: Thrifty
In the glorious Soviet era, they would have simply been shot for such a thing! !!

Stop inventing !! They would be deprived of admission, they would be imprisoned, but they would not shoot for such a trifle. Otherwise, half of the Union would have already been shot.
In their midst they spoke without looking back at the vulture. But sometimes outside "their walls" they could blurt out something, in particular about the timing. Or some characteristics. From my own practice I can cite dozens of examples (as surely each of us who had the form of admission)

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"serial number 155". 165 then.

"Perm" really has the number 165, and not 155, as in the article
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Already Perm? Well then, the developers of Zircon still have time ...