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"Inflatable" military fleet of Ukraine

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"Inflatable" military fleet of Ukraine
The supply of such floating craft for the Ukrainian Navy makes many people laugh - explained, however, only by ignorance. In this photo "RHIB" is used by combat swimmers. Photo source: Wikimedia Commons


It would be worth starting this material, perhaps, with the fact that the active naval development of Ukraine is by no means new or secret information. In the domestic media, however, it is fanned with a mass of ridiculous rumors, conjectures and outright ridicule that distort the real state of affairs for the sake of the propaganda component.

Today I propose to understand what is actually happening in the naval forces of the adjacent and, alas, now unfriendly state to us.

Unfortunately, Russian news agencies and various analysts often focus on insignificant acts of activity of NATO military specialists in Ukraine and technical assistance provided to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Navy. So, for example, news about the supply of RHIB motorized rigid-hull inflatable boats is taken out of context, but the elements of the system, which are actively being built on the other side of our border, are completely overlooked.

The strategy of the possible


Any military development begins with a study of the theoretical aspects of subsequent practical activities. Fortunately or unfortunately, Ukraine was extremely unlucky with this: after losing almost everything fleet During the return of Crimea to Russia and the subsequent presidency of Petro Poroshenko, the Ukrainian Naval Forces were in a deep crisis, both conceptual and organizational.

In the period from 2014 to 2018, the top military leadership of Ukraine absolutely seriously considered the possibility of creating a large military fleet as a symmetrical response to the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. Most likely, this "inertia" of thinking can be associated with the officer and admiral cadres, who for the most part had a predominantly Soviet military education. The general unfavorable situation in the country only intensified the senselessness of all attempts to form a more or less combat-ready Navy, already burdened with extremely meager funding from the defense budget.


The aging aircraft fleet is a real scourge of the Ukrainian armed forces. Source: Wikimedia Commons

Over the past years, however, a lot has changed: the military development of Ukraine is increasingly coming under the leadership of military experts, officials and analysts from the NATO bloc countries, which definitely has a beneficial effect on the processes taking place in the country.

The first major step in reforming the Ukrainian fleet was the development of the "Strategy of the Navy-2035", prepared in the period from 2017 to 2018 with the participation of 50 officers of the Naval Forces command and specialized specialists from four countries of the NATO bloc.

This document, no doubt, was compiled by people who are well-versed in matters of military development: it takes into account the current and future capabilities of the Ukrainian Navy (including personnel and financial), the forces of a hypothetical adversary (in the person of Russia), the prospects for expanding the ship's composition, functionality taking into account involvement of allied forces, analysis of the operational situation and many other factors, which, of course, make it possible to form a list of adequate tasks and concepts that determine the position of the naval forces in matters of ensuring the defense capability of Ukraine.

The main tasks of this normative act are arranged in priority order, and they can be designated by three points:

1. Protection against aggression at sea and from sea areas.
2. Protection of the national economic interests of Ukraine.
3. Participation in international operations to ensure maritime security.

In turn, these tasks are supposed to be completed in three stages (five years each):

1. The implementation of the tasks of the first stage should ensure the safety of river deltas and ports, depriving the enemy of the opportunity to operate in the coastal zone (12-40 miles) and create the potential necessary to break through the naval blockade.

2. The second stage involves the creation of conditions for operations in the exclusive economic zone (up to 200 nautical miles). For this purpose, it is planned to create a monitoring system for the surface, underwater and air spaces. At this stage, the naval forces must acquire the capabilities necessary for a physical presence in the BMZ, with the concomitant ability to launch missile attacks on the enemy's fleet.

3. At the third stage, it is envisaged to ensure the actions of the Ukrainian fleet outside the 200-mile economic zone and at a considerable distance from their bases.

This approach is based on an assessment of the priority of current threats and the financial capabilities of the military budget - this is critically important for Ukraine, which can allocate only $ 3,5 billion annually for defense needs (including $ 576-600 million for the purchase of equipment). This is how the economic component of each of the three stages of development can be described:

1. 70-90 million dollars (annually) in the first stage.
2. 100-250 million dollars in the second period.
3. 150-400 million dollars in the third stage.

Thus, the theoretical part of the "Strategy of the Navy-2035" looks extremely realistic: it implies a competent phased development of the fleet. And it focuses not only on the aspects of the procurement of equipment and weapons, but also takes into account the importance of training relevant personnel, infrastructure and material and technical supply, without ambiguity defining the role and place of the Ukrainian Navy in ensuring national security. Moreover, it is understandable for the countries acting as Kiev's allies - having a competent organization and a long-term plan of action, Ukraine does not encounter obstacles in obtaining funds from outside for the development of the armed forces.


Regular exercises of the Naval Forces of Ukraine with NATO countries are by no means a reason for fun. Photo source: Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

From words to actions


Further analysis of the topic of the modern Ukrainian fleet should begin with a description of the current work aimed at creating an infrastructure for basing the ship's composition.

This topic, perhaps, is extremely painful for Russia as well, as a consequence of the legacy of the unbalanced financing of the USSR Navy. The Soviet Union invested a lot of money in the construction of ships, but had a disproportionately weak logistical component to ensure their further functioning. After the loss of Crimea, Ukraine lost not only the fleet, but also the entire basing infrastructure. That is why its construction is currently a priority task for the construction of the Naval Forces of Ukraine.

Berdyansk (Sea of ​​Azov) and Ochakov (Black Sea) were chosen as the main bases of the Ukrainian fleet. The naval bases will be built according to Western standards with the involvement of specialists from the UK and the United States.

According to the projects, they should include infrastructure for the repair and basing of ships, training of personnel and housing for the families of naval sailors (including schools, kindergartens, shops, leisure centers, etc.). The last items on the list are by no means idleness, but cold calculation: without attractive conditions of service and residence, the Naval Forces of Ukraine will not be able to stimulate the influx of recruits.

Work on the construction of the naval base has already started. Some of their elements have already been built with the help of countries allied to Ukraine - such, for example, as the United States: the building of an operational center for the headquarters of the Naval Forces Division, a local raid control point and other small infrastructure facilities in Ochakov have been built.

Ochakov, however, is remarkable not only for this detail. Back in 2011-2012, America began building facilities there for training combat swimmers. Since then, NATO has been investing a lot in training and equipping one of the most combat-ready units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - the 73rd Naval Special Operations Center.

In general, the tendency for the purposeful training of Ukrainian special forces by Western specialists has been outlined for quite some time. But in recent years it has taken on the shape of a working system: the elimination of militia commanders, an ever-growing spy network and operations in the border regions of Russia indicate alarming signs of the growth of both the activity and professionalism of the Ukrainian MTR.

Work in this direction has an extremely logical rationale: it makes no sense for Western countries to invest forces and funds in the training of ineffective combined arms units. They place a natural emphasis on the development of special-purpose teams with both the best human resources and a high level of morale and motivation. Together with training by NATO specialists, Western weapons and equipment, these units can provide a very real threat of sabotage operations, both on land and at sea.

By the way, it is for them that the United States supplies RHIB motorized rigid-hull inflatable boats, which have proven themselves to be excellent for operations behind enemy lines ...


Despite the scanty budget, the Ukrainian Navy pays great attention to regular combat training. Photo source: Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

"Mosquito fleet


The scattered news about the re-equipment of the Naval Forces of Ukraine mainly causes laughter: the eyes of the Russians are presented with a comical picture in which untalented amateurs haphazardly buy up weapons in various parts of the world, hoping to scare someone else.

Is it true?

Unfortunately no.

The text of the "Strategy of the Navy-2035" quite specifically defines the subsequent vector of development of the naval forces of Ukraine: NATO experts have chosen the most reasonable and suitable for the financial state of the country path of building the so-called "mosquito" fleet.

One way or another, but the current state of affairs does not allow Ukraine to "hit" megalomania. A similar attempt was undertaken by the administration of Petro Poroshenko (who, however, had his own financial interest in this), but failed: the Soviet shipbuilding industry no longer functions, and the new private one is not designed for the construction of any large warships.

Moreover, as mentioned above, Ukraine no longer has any infrastructure for the operation of serious surface combat units. As, however, there are no funds to buy them abroad.

Separately, it is worth mentioning the common sense of the Naval Forces officers, who are aware of the current uselessness of any military vessels of a larger class than the "missile boat". In the coastal and near sea zones, they have no combat value (taking into account the factor of the dominance of the Russian Black Sea Fleet), and the Ukrainian fleet is not ready for operations far from bases.

Which of these can be concluded?

We need a "mosquito" fleet.

The current military-technical cooperation with the United States, Great Britain and Turkey is spelled out within the framework of the "Strategy of the Navy-2035" - and this is by no means a feverish set of meaningless actions, but a systematic and pragmatic approach arising from a sober assessment of one's own forces.

The current concept of procurement of naval weapons can be described in several points:

1. Creation of patrol boat divisions. The ship's composition is represented by boats of the "Island" type (supplied by the United States in the framework of military cooperation).

2. Support for the actions of special operations forces. The ship's composition is represented by boats of the Mark VI type (supplied by the United States in the framework of military cooperation).

3. Formation of shock groups. The ship's composition is represented by Barzan-type missile boats (under construction in Great Britain).

4. Creation of expeditionary formations. The ship's composition is represented by corvettes of the "Ada" type (made in Turkey). These vessels will be purchased only at the last stage of the implementation of the "Strategy of the Navy-2035", that is, approximately no earlier than 2030.

As we can see, our "neighbors" are not at all inclined to indulge in fantasies about the "great navy", as the biased media often try to expose. By no means, this is an extremely balanced approach to the formation of an asymmetric naval potential based on both our own strengths and the weaknesses of the enemy (for example, the fact of training Ukrainian combat swimmers for conducting mine warfare is obvious, which is a "sore spot" of the modern Russian fleet ).

Standing apart, however, are the problems of renovation and development of the coastal aviation... This topic is critically important for the armed forces of Ukraine as a whole: the resource of Soviet-made aircraft is on the verge of its complete exhaustion, and no replacement is foreseen yet.

The fleet of the Naval Forces of Ukraine was recently replenished with Turkish attack UAVs of the "Bayraktar TB2" type with an increased flight range. These vehicles, however, were not purchased for the purpose of conducting an "air blitzkrieg" - the Ukrainian fleet is going to use them as patrol aircraft to illuminate the surface situation. This approach is quite correlated with the pragmatic "Strategy of the Navy-2035": drones will be an excellent addition to the battalions of coastal boats, and can also play an important role in both anti-sabotage and sabotage actions of naval special operations forces.


Ukrainian combat swimmers are one of the most serious threats to the "asymmetric response" of the Ukrainian Navy. Photo source: Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

However, it is worth noting that such measures leave open the question of both the fighter cover of the Ukrainian Navy and the provision of anti-submarine and mine action. Probably, in the future, Ukraine will receive multipurpose sea helicopters "Sikorsky SH-60 Seahawk", which will significantly expand the functionality of its coastal aviation, but so far this is just speculation. Given the nature of predominantly coastal operations, the "anti-aircraft umbrella" for surface forces is likely to be formed from air defense units of the Air Force.

Conclusion


One way or another, but the loss of almost the entire fleet, perhaps, rather, went to the Ukrainian Navy even to the benefit: before the fact of the complete disappearance of the naval forces, Ukraine found the strength to renew the command and officer personnel, competently use the advice of foreign military experts and develop a surprisingly realistic strategy development of military construction.

Perhaps, statements about a serious threat to Russia in the Black and Azov Seas may turn out to be premature, but with the current energy and pragmatic approach of the Ukrainian Navy, these words may become reality. All the planned actions prescribed in the "Strategy of the Navy-2035" carry a rather specific message: in the "new round" the Ukrainian fleet will be firmly aimed at inflicting the maximum possible losses on the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

In any case, it is worth noting that low-quality propaganda is absolutely at odds with reality - in the next 5-10 years, our soldiers and sailors will not be waiting for great armada of inflatable boats, but high-speed missile boats, minelayers and detachments of naval saboteurs with motivated and trained personnel.

The NATO bloc, in turn, is going to stay in Ukraine for a long time. One of the key points of the "Strategy of the Navy-2035" is both the expansion of military-technical cooperation with Western countries and allies in the region (in particular, the emphasis is on active interaction with the Turkish Navy), and the strengthening of sea trade and industrial capabilities of the former republics of the USSR.

In this, NATO has its own direct benefit. The economic stability of Ukraine will create and maintain a constant military threat to the southern and western borders of Russia. A well-developed port infrastructure will facilitate the creation of additional cargo flows from Asia to Europe (Turkey and Britain are extremely interested in such projects).

One way or another, this puts Russia in the face of new challenges that we will have to answer.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From 31 March 2021 10: 05
    -19%
    All NATO strategies in Ukraine will crash against Warrant Officer Mykola .....
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2021 10: 19
      +25
      Quote: Alien From
      All NATO strategies in Ukraine will crash against Warrant Officer Mykola .....

      keep giggling like the Author said? Ukrainians are not Persians or Tuaregs, they have our Slavic genetic code, and when necessary, the fighters are as persistent as ours, remember the Donetsk airport, laugh silly. bitterly at the thought that we were so thrown on opposite sides of the trenches.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 31 March 2021 10: 22
        -6
        Maybe, but the bets have been made.
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 31 March 2021 10: 44
        +11
        Quote: Dead Day
        ... it is bitter at the thought that we were so separated on different sides of the trenches.

        This is just a disaster. The Anglo-Saxons have been striving for this for a long time. And they did it ...
        That's when England and France start a war against Pennsylvania, New York and Canada, in alliance with Texas, Louisiana and Oklahoma, then it will be possible to "laugh" and hoot ...
        In the meantime, everything is very unhealthy.
      3. Anzhey V.
        31 March 2021 10: 51
        +13
        stupid. bitter at the thought that we were so thrown on opposite sides of the trenches


        Personally, I am still shocked by how this could have happened at all - we have lost an entire country in our "underbelly", which had close historical and economic ties with Russia.

        There is nothing funny here, alas ...
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 31 March 2021 11: 14
          +6
          Quote: Anjay V.
          Personally, I am still shocked by how this could have happened at all - we have lost an entire country in our "underbelly", which had close historical and economic ties with Russia.


          If Russia is in the same blissful state as before, and does nothing - "And they won't go anywhere from us"then both Kazakhstan and Central Asia, the Caucasus can repeat the" maneuver "of the Outskirts at the choice of the new owner.

          A suicidal maneuver yes , but for Russia it does not bode well.
          1. Anzhey V.
            31 March 2021 11: 15
            +3
            I agree with you, Insurgent.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 31 March 2021 11: 23
              0
              Quote: Anjay V.
              I agree with you, Insurgent.


              I’m with you, I can agree on some things, but on some issues I don’t ...

              For example :

              The supply of such floating craft for the Ukrainian Navy makes many people laugh - explained, however, only by ignorance. In this photo "RHIB" is used by combat swimmers.

              My answer is - "Rare bird inflatable boat will fly will swim to mid coast The Dnieper DPR, Crimea"

              There is no fleet, and even then not a fleet.
              1. Anzhey V.
                31 March 2021 12: 10
                +4
                I can't tell you anything yet. In the next 5-10 years, it will become clear whether the Ukrainian Navy will be able to implement the "Strategy of the Navy-2035", or not.

                Now they have just started, and there is no specifics.

                But the "Strategy" itself is a serious document and is designed for a long game.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 31 March 2021 12: 13
                  -2
                  Quote: Anjay V.

                  But the "Strategy" itself is a serious document and is designed for a long game.


                  Question: Is the Outskirts itself designed for such a game?

                  Do you take its progressive instability into account when delving into the program?
                  1. Anzhey V.
                    31 March 2021 12: 26
                    +6
                    Is the Outskirts itself designed for such a game?


                    I see no reason why no.
                    In 2014, they said the same thing - you have to wait a couple of years, the raguli will crawl on their knees. They didn't crawl. And they didn't fall apart.

                    They even live more or less - plus or minus I regularly communicate with old acquaintances from Kiev and Kharkov, I can compare.

                    The problem here is that we don't know how to think strategically. In the West, whole "analyst factories" work for the needs of foreign policy - and it is already obvious that Ukraine has become a long-term springboard for them. They are not training the SBU for fun, trying to fight corruption, giving money to "revive" the weak Ukrainian economy - this is a long-term plan for at least two decades in advance.

                    You can deny this, you can not believe it - but the fact is that our numerous analysts and "political experts" were wrong both before 2014 and many times after. Already the seventh year has passed, and they are all repeating the mantra about stupid cowardly khokhlov who will freeze tomorrow without our gas, and the day after tomorrow they will fall apart, like a crystal vase.

                    Alas, everything is more complicated. Much harder.
                    1. New Year day
                      New Year day 31 March 2021 12: 40
                      +4
                      Quote: Anjay V.
                      I see no reason why no.
                      In 2014, they said the same thing - you have to wait a couple of years, the raguli will crawl on their knees. They didn't crawl. And they didn't fall apart.

                      And they will not fall apart. The first publications "How to cut a Ukrainian orange" refer to 2006 and ... nothing. Too good a combination for the US and the EU.
                      There are more shapkozakidatel than sober ones, taking into account the realities of today. But, as a rule, they are the ones who turn out to be right, since politics is cynical and is based not on emotions, but on calculations and possible consequences.
                      1. Anzhey V.
                        31 March 2021 12: 46
                        +7
                        Ukraine today is a real boon for the West.

                        A huge sales market, cheap labor, the possibility of developing logistics, an excellent opportunity to prepare agents for actions in Russia, a permanent military threat to our southern and western borders ...

                        They will never let it fall apart.
                      2. The leader of the Redskins
                        The leader of the Redskins 31 March 2021 13: 13
                        0
                        Thank you for a sane, balanced article based not on emotions, but on documents and facts.
                      3. Anzhey V.
                        31 March 2021 13: 55
                        +3
                        Please, I am glad that there are so many people who can adequately perceive this kind of information.
                      4. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov April 1 2021 11: 06
                        +1
                        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                        Thank you for a sane, balanced article based not on emotions, but on documents and facts.

                        I DO NOT agree with your assessment of the article. I am not a hat hawser, but I think that the author excessively optimistic both about the Ukrainian Navy and about the long history of the current Bandera Ukraine and its pro-Western pro-American government. It seems that Anzhey writes about some other country, that he absolutely does not know in what coma this hole is.

                        Does he know that the incidence of coronavirus in Ukraine is 10 times higher than in Russia, with almost complete absence of vaccination?

                        Does he know that according to the newly adopted law, the reorganized military registration and enlistment offices have the right to force any resident of Nenya into the "victorious" army? And all the same none DOES NOT want to, evade in any way possible!

                        Does he know that the Armed Forces of Ukraine is concentrated in Donbass and is only waiting for an order from the Americans to attack, after which both the history of the Ukrainian Naval Forces and the history of "independent" Ukraine will quickly end?

                        I consider this article to be just distracting misinformation.
                      5. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin April 2 2021 21: 31
                        0
                        Oh no, given that the Bandershchina has deeply taken root in the Ukrinsky society, they are capable of fluttering and wagging their nerves for a long time. In the "rather alive than dead" state, they are able to stretch out enough time.
                  2. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 31 March 2021 22: 55
                    +1
                    Quote: Anjay V.
                    They will never let it fall apart.

                    Therefore, the empiricalists will not allow Ukraine to unleash a war in Donbass, otherwise they will again receive only a part of what they originally wanted, while the Russian Federation benefits from the Ukrainian Armed Forces' offensive in Donbass, because this is the only way to move the borders of Ukraine away from the Russian Federation.
                    In 2014, the Russian Federation made the mistake of preventing the LDNR from capturing the entire Azov region, and now we have weak starting positions for the expansion of Donbass ...
                  3. Anzhey V.
                    31 March 2021 23: 01
                    +2
                    Therefore, the Empireists will not allow Ukraine to unleash a war in Donbass.


                    It is absolutely true - they will now threaten the very possibility of such a war for years, constantly keeping Russia in suspense, but there will be no military actions like the ATO.

                    The maximum is shelling, as it is now, as moral and political pressure.

                    In such conditions, Donbass will not need any war - uncertainty, disappointment, a decline in morale will do their job, ensuring the outflow of the population.

                    If the Donbass is still not accepted into Russia, then in 25 years it will become an even more Russophobic region than Lviv - because there is no enemy worse than a devoted ally.
                  4. alexey sidykin
                    alexey sidykin April 2 2021 21: 23
                    0
                    But Donbass itself does not hurt to rush into Russia. They are fighting each other Donetsk and Luhansk. Unlike Crimea, there was no question of annexation ...
          2. alexey sidykin
            alexey sidykin April 2 2021 21: 28
            0
            Are you sure that our analysts are not in the know? What appears to the court of the country may turn out to be completely different from what it really is. We have practically no influence on the former republics, because they need money and only money. And we, not the states, cannot turn on the printing press endlessly.
      4. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 31 March 2021 19: 35
        +5
        Quote: Anjay V.
        I can't tell you anything yet. In the next 5-10 years, it will become clear whether the Ukrainian Navy will be able to implement the "Strategy of the Navy-2035", or not.
        Now they have just started, and there is no specifics.
        But the "Strategy" itself is a serious document and is designed for a long game.
        So it is so. The most regrettable thing is that Russia itself indirectly participates in the financing of an unfriendly Ukraine and thereby assists it in the implementation of this "Strategy of the Navy-2035", despite the fact that it is directed against Russia.
        Trade turnover with Ukraine over the past year amounted to a little less than 10 billion dollars, of which the share of imports of Ukrainian goods to Russia accounts for 3,5 billion + add here the amount that is transferred by Ukrainian guest workers working in Russia. Enough not only for the mosquito fleet.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather April 2 2021 06: 09
          0
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          So it is so. The most regrettable thing is that Russia itself indirectly participates in the financing of an unfriendly Ukraine and thereby assists it in the implementation of this "Strategy of the Navy-2035", despite the fact that it is directed against Russia.
          Trade turnover with Ukraine over the past year amounted to a little less than 10 billion dollars, of which the share of imports of Ukrainian goods to Russia accounts for 3,5 billion + add here the amount that is transferred by Ukrainian guest workers working in Russia. Enough not only for the mosquito fleet.

          killed Dima ...
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 31 March 2021 12: 52
    0
    Suppose we all are unpleasant that we have lost the Ukrainian people. But all this happened, through the fault and at the request of the Ukrainian people themselves. Just don’t shout that the people are not to blame. The people of Ukraine have chosen their own life, their power. Let them live as they want. This is their own business. There is no going back.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 31 March 2021 16: 59
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      happened, through the fault and at the request of the Ukrainian people themselves

      Not without it! But did we want and what did we do against it?
    2. Reiter
      Reiter 31 March 2021 20: 27
      +2
      If such technology is used to process the brains of the population of a certain Russian region, then Russia will lose it. We must fight for the minds of people so that they do not seek a better life somewhere in the West, but can realize themselves on the spot. To have an ideology and correct patriotic education and not distorted history for the sake of Western ideology was taught to children. Therefore, we will pass through Ukraine too ... and will we love Russia, if all this does not happen. And yes, it’s easier to do nothing and repeat the stubborn phrase: “yourself, only yourself.” Sami, this is good, but only if those who can and wants from less than half of them and there are no leaders and there is no strategy where to move the crowd, there are no formed goals for the sake of which to move, albeit a pro-Russian oriented, but just a crowd. The crowd will remain just a herd without all this. Ukrainians did not slide into this trash on their own, they were trained and financed by activists, raised groups of influence, but even this did not help to the end, so they even had to fill up about a hundred bots on the Maidan, then to discourage the rest of the desire to resist, they also filled up in Odessa people, and the rest were given a carrot in the form of a visa-free visa, who do not like to live in an idiotic nation, bring down to work in the EU, they need working hands. Generally a super strategy. Something like this Russian "strategists" are not able to do not earlier and not now (hpp with Minsk-1, 2, ..., N, this is the maximum creativity, and it did not work and could not work, these smart people saw right away ). And nothing itself is ever done. Even a fire in a forest is caused by a match or lightning, and then you need dry hay, grass, dead wood. Those who have and opportunities make the world. Does an ordinary citizen of Ukraine or even Russia have such opportunities?
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 31 March 2021 21: 35
        0
        Quote: Reiter
        If you use this technology to process the brains of the population of a certain Russian region

        it's been going on for a long time
  • g1v2
    g1v2 31 March 2021 13: 41
    +9
    This was clear back in 92. Ukraine was doomed to become our main enemy, which will be used by any of our competitors. This is just a natural historical process. request
    And really not very smart people laugh. And by the way, it is because of the danger of Ukrainian combat swimmers that several Hracats have already arrived at the Black Sea Fleet, and 4 more have been contracted to guard the Crimean bridge of the Russian Guard. True, there are few trained personnel in the 73rd center, because in the years 14-15, combat swimmers were used in the Donbas as infantry and reconnaissance. And there they had losses. And there are less than a hundred of them in the center.
    And the rate on boats is also logical. You can act on them with support on the shore and hide in the river beds. Again, you can carry out amphibious operations and drop saboteurs. Walk along Kalmius from Marik and you can support operations all the way to Donetsk. Again, the transfer of saboteurs to the Crimea on these most ridiculous motorboats - there the distances are small and you can go unnoticed. request
    Laughter is laughter, but Ukraine is an enemy and must be taken seriously.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 31 March 2021 16: 03
      +3
      Quote: g1v2
      Ukraine was doomed to become our main enemy

      The worst thing is that this became possible with the connivance of our authorities.
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 31 March 2021 16: 50
        +4
        This was inevitable in any case. The fact that they managed to keep her out of NATO even under Yushchenko is already a great success. request
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 31 March 2021 16: 56
          -1
          Quote: g1v2
          This was inevitable in any case.

          Then, if this is inevitable, why have they pumped more than $ 30 billion into Ukraine in 200 years?
          Does your definition fit Belarus?
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 31 March 2021 22: 52
            +6
            Because Ukraine for 30 years held us tightly to the Faberge so that we could not even fart. belay She blackmailed us with several things.
            1. Base of the Black Sea Fleet. If we were thrown out of there, then there would be simply nowhere to keep him. Placing it in Novorossiysk would simply deprive us of a significant part of the trading capacity of our largest port. Even with Abkhazia we agreed to transport part of the fleet to Sukhumi in case of emergency. Ukraine forbade us not only to change ships, but even armored personnel carriers from the marines.
            2. Accession to NATO. If under Yushchenko she had been admitted to NATO, the NATO infrastructure would have been in Crimea and near Kharkov. Plus Belarus would be in a semi-encirclement. NATO does not keep serious troops in the Baltics not out of peacefulness, but because in the event of a conflict they are suicide bombers. But if there is a NATO grouping in Ukraine, then the Republic of Belarus is already under attack from three sides. And she could not defend herself. Stupidly, the economy of Belarus will not feed an army capable of repelling an offensive from three sides. request
            3. Gas transit. The main pipelines from Soviet times went to Europe via dill. We transported 200 billion cubic meters of gas a year through it. This gave us about $ 30 billion a year. Another 3 billion went to ukram. At that time, it was mega-sized. It is we who are now rich and can survive a serious drop in income from hydrocarbons, and 20 years ago the whole country was waiting with horror for 2003, when it was necessary to pay 3 billion in debt. For Russia, it was a huge amount then. And everyone was afraid that such an impoverished country like Russia would defaulted again, like in 98, and there would be a new crisis. By-pass routes have now been built and only 40 billion cubic meters will go through Ukraine, which will not be possible to blackmail us.
            4. Products of the military-industrial complex. For 2014, we had to replace 826 items of Ukrainian military-industrial complex products. Boguslaev in the Kremlin at one time almost kicked open the door. Import substitution was calculated up to 23 years. At the time of the collapse of the USSR, about 20 thousand Ukrainian enterprises were associated with our defense industry. We still have not replaced everything and will replace it for several years.
            5. Ammonia pipeline Togliatti-Odessa. It was also a significant object, which we could not replace at that time.
            With all this we were harshly blackmailed and milked. Now the answer has gone. wink
            The volumes of the military-industrial complex of Belarus and our dependence on it are an order of magnitude smaller. RB also tried to milk us, but the volumes were much smaller and Luka also had much less leverage. Papykoli's attempts to play multi-vector ended in fact at the end of last year, when he still had to make a forced choice. Tch now RB is deployed towards integration and focus on us. Oil products have already been delivered to Ust Luga. Further fertilizers will be deployed. True, the Belarusians in Lithuania have a share in the port, so there may be throwing. But most likely potash fertilizers will still go through us. In military terms, Luka also had to decide, which is already clearly visible. In general, this is a separate topic. hi
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 31 March 2021 22: 50
    0
    Quote: Anjay V.
    how could this even happen - we lost an entire country in our "underbelly", which had close historical and economic ties with Russia.

    This often happens, you do not value what is next to you ...
    The Russian Federation is guarding the Qatar pipe in the SAR, and meanwhile, thanks to our clumsy diplomacy, it can pass through the South Caucasus, incl. through Armenia and Georgia ... the liberated districts of Azerbaijan and part of the NKR are part of this plan ...
    1. Anzhey V.
      31 March 2021 22: 56
      0
      This often happens, you do not value what is next to you ...


      You can't argue with you ...

      The worst thing is that in Syria, everything is by no means as smooth as it seems - the situation there has radically changed not for the better, incl. regarding the perception of Russia by both the Syrian elites and the population.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 31 March 2021 23: 01
        +1
        Quote: Anjay V.
        the situation there has radically changed not for the better, incl. regarding the perception of Russia by both the Syrian elites and the population.

        We have no economic and political leverage over the SAR elite, at best Lavrov will go to Damascus and in the course of "successful" negotiations on behalf of the Russian Federation will forgive the SAR for its debt to the Russian Federation ...
        1. Anzhey V.
          31 March 2021 23: 08
          0
          We have no economic and political leverage for the SAR elite


          Meanwhile, the Iranians have them, who turn back what they want - and after all, the starting positions we had with him were the same ...
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 31 March 2021 23: 21
            0
            Quote: Anjay V.
            Meanwhile, the Iranians have them, who turn back what they want

            Behind them the "infantry" - Hamas, the Shiite militia of Iraq, some tribes from Afghanistan, the Shiite militias of the SAR itself ...
            The Russian Federation can count on the military aristocracy of the SAR, we are closer to them in mentality ... and among it are not only Alawites ...
            In addition, we constantly need to negotiate something with the Turks and Israeli Jews, because they have completely different thoughts about the SAR .... and they can even be understood, the Turks are constantly at war with the Kurds and they will drive them around the BV, and the Israeli Jews are chasing the soldiers of the IRGC and Hamas, who run throughout the SAR, with which there is no peace treaty with Israel ...
            It seems to me that they simply lured us into the SAR, as in the NKR ... so that we spend our resources trying to resolve the conflicts in the SAR and the NKR ...
            I would not be surprised if some kind of turmoil does not start in Sudan in the summer ...
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 31 March 2021 23: 29
              +1
              Quote: Lara Croft
              It seems to me that we were just lured to SAR

              Yes.
              Quote: Lara Croft
              as in NKR

              Not quite.
              Quote: Lara Croft
              if some kind of turmoil does not start in Sudan in the summer

              Yes. There is a conflict between Egypt and Sudan on the one hand, Ethiopia on the other. For the water of the blue Nile. Check out the Turkish bases in that region. By the way, the Turks and Egypt agreed on Libya and the Mediterranean. The Saudis are doing well too. A coalition against Ethiopia is being planned.
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 31 March 2021 23: 41
                0
                Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                There is a conflict between Egypt and Sudan on the one hand, Ethiopia on the other. For the water of the blue Nile. Check out the Turkish bases in that region.

                It looks like it's in our blood, finding cockroach corners and shaking them up. Provided that we will pay to Sudan for the lease of the PMTO we will be V and VT, then the Sudanese military cartridges can not save at all ... and the first payment will be from us with naval mines, I think the Red Sea will soon turn into Trofi with the participation of super tankers and container ships of the "ro" type -ro ".....
                1. OgnennyiKotik
                  OgnennyiKotik 31 March 2021 23: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Red Sea to Trofee with Super Tankers and Ro-Ro Containers

                  In this case, the need for the Iraq-Turkey-Europe pipeline will increase. There will be one more in addition to Russia-Turkey-Europe, Central Asia-Azerbaijan-Turkey-Europe. And all this will be built and controlled by British and American companies. Therefore, such a negative to SP-2.
                  There is a big game going on, Russia does not allow itself to be thrown out of it. Therefore, such movements. But the big questions are to the qualifications of our players, they are more like amateurs among cheaters.
      2. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 31 March 2021 23: 09
        0
        Why is everyone talking about a pipe through Syria? It can be laid through Iraq without any problems, the infrastructure there is already ready. Moreover, to pump Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar oil and gas.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 31 March 2021 23: 29
          0
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          Why is everyone talking about a pipe through Syria? It can be laid through Iraq without any problems, the infrastructure there is already ready. Moreover, to pump Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar oil and gas.

          The mess in the SAR, began due to the fact that the senior comrades of the SAR, decided to become a gas and oil hub in the Eastern Mediterranean, some BV countries supported SAR, and the Anglo-Saxons and some monarchies in the BV reacted extremely negatively to this idea, all idiocy in the fact that the Russian Federation, neither the Qatari pipe in the SAR is unnecessary, nor the hubb in the form of the SAR itself ...
          In "ZVO" a good article about it was ...
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 31 March 2021 23: 31
            -1
            I know this theory, but its ends do not converge. The pipe can be built as I drew, half of it already physically exists. You can go through Egypt, or through Israel, there are a lot of options. The problems and causes of the war in Syria are much deeper and more complex. But as one of the factors is possible.
    2. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin April 2 2021 21: 37
      0
      It will not work, it was Syria's refusal to lay this pipe that largely provoked a civil war. At least participation from Turkey
  • alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin April 2 2021 21: 21
    0
    Why shocked? This has been going on since the 50s.
  • Civil
    Civil 31 March 2021 10: 59
    +4
    Quote: Dead Day
    bitter at the thought that we were so separated on different sides of the trenches.


    The word "lit" is key. NATO is a rich and consistent organization - they will build everything to confront the Russians with Ukrainians.
  • Insurgent
    Insurgent 31 March 2021 11: 01
    -1
    Quote: Dead Day
    fighters, when necessary, are as persistent as ours, remember Donetsk airport


    What to remember? How "cyborgs " , "in a long siege"and further"blah blah blah"from parAshenko?

    How long did they stay there? Relatively long yes But thanks to what?
    Is it not a strong group due to the fact that the airport infrastructure was built according to the standards of a military facility?
    Is it not due to the fact that for a long time they simply played "cat and mouse" with them, periodically arranging a humiliating "rotation" procedure, but in fact infiltration into the trap of suicide bombers through the encirclement ring?

    You don't know how it was ...



  • knn54
    knn54 31 March 2021 11: 11
    +5
    Dedkastary, today and especially yesterday it is undeniable .. It should be noted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were the most "Soviet" of all the post-Soviet armies.
    But in the long term, nothing good. I know a lot of smart officers who go to civilian life.
    Real support (allowance, salaries, weapons) only from the Dobrobats and the National Guard.
    The level of training of the Airborne Forces (already 10 years ago)) was lower than that of motorized riflemen of the times of the USSR.
    Prospects are not bright. If we take into account the situation in the country. You cannot be fed up with slogans.
    And the last is the discipline below the plinth.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 31 March 2021 12: 40
      +1
      Yes, and Po and Ze are far from Lenin and not Trotsky, and the Nazi ideology of intolerance is not at all new (like communism for Russia in 1918-24), for Ukraine it is a phenomenon.
      The history of Ukraine during the period of the collapse of the empire and its inclusion in the USSR - speaks for itself - the pans are incapable of creating something on their own, keeping it and not plundering it - developing it!
      So they hover around the United States, NATO and other Great Britain, intending to bite something to the detriment of Russia.
  • Overlock
    Overlock 31 March 2021 11: 47
    +25
    Quote: Dead Day
    keep giggling like the Author said?

    "Gigglers" are waiting for the cock to bite. Good analysis and the most important thing to understand is for a long time
    The economic stability of Ukraine will create and maintain a constant military threat to the southern and western borders of Russia.

    и
    Ukraine's military development is increasingly being led by military experts, officials and analysts from the NATO bloc countries, which definitely has a beneficial effect on the processes taking place in the country.
  • alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin April 2 2021 21: 19
    0
    You won't have to wait for serious harm, but it may well fray your nerves. At the Donetsk airport, from the Donbass side, there was still not a regular army, but a militia.
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 31 March 2021 22: 33
    0
    Quote: Alien From
    All NATO strategies in Ukraine will crash against Warrant Officer Mykola .....

    In the Soviet Navy and later in the CIS countries, there have always been warrant officers, today in the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are no titles of either warrant officers or warrant officers ...
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 31 March 2021 10: 18
    +1
    Trying on the role of David, the Ukrainian Navy is trying to threaten Goliath in the future (that is, the Black Sea Fleet) wassat
    But the border guards and the Black Sea Fleet need to be ready for the "minor bites" of sabotage motorbots by raids on the Crimean coast already now. And it is more convenient to destroy this mosquito fleet with aviation, and not drive corvettes.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 20
    0
    Over the past years, however, a lot has changed: the military development of Ukraine is increasingly coming under the leadership of military experts, officials and analysts from the NATO bloc countries, which definitely has a beneficial effect on the processes taking place in the country.
    WHERE, show the successes and achievements from the other side?
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2021 10: 26
      -2
      Quote: rocket757
      Over the past years, however, a lot has changed: the military development of Ukraine is increasingly coming under the leadership of military experts, officials and analysts from the NATO bloc countries, which definitely has a beneficial effect on the processes taking place in the country.
      WHERE, show the successes and achievements from the other side?

      not only Channel One, look, read at least something.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 31
        0
        Where are the successes, achievements ... a simple question after all.
        You do not have an answer, then this is not a question for you, but for someone who KNOWS.
      2. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin April 2 2021 21: 48
        0
        For example, the Americans have also been preparing and coaching Georgians for a long time ... Do not discount our Slavic slovenliness and raspyd @ yatsvo. In Ukraine, they have tried more than once to establish statehood after the liberation from the pshek. The first "Ruin" in the 17th century. The second "Chieftain" in the 20th century ...
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 31 March 2021 10: 31
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      WHERE, show the successes and achievements from the other side?

      Well, where are the successes? You read the article, did you carefully look at the photos? For example, the destruction of their command ... how? Well, now two fighters from the "needles" will shoot at the suddenly appeared target and the chiefs standing below will be fried with torches. I see this learning result in a simple, seemingly harmless photo.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 March 2021 10: 40
        -1
        Those who are below ... like on a pleasure yacht, even if they put on colorful shorts and all the chicks-bunches! Such are their "teachings" ... I guess.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 31 March 2021 10: 43
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Those below are ... like on a pleasure yacht

          So I'm talking about preparation. Preparation is not a pretty picture, it is a competent action.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 March 2021 11: 21
            0
            Quote: NDR-791
            Preparation is not a pretty picture,

            That's right ... results, assessments, skills!
            Just trying, learning, practicing a little, is not enough for a real job.
    3. Anzhey V.
      31 March 2021 10: 47
      +3
      Sorry, but your question requires a detailed answer, at least in the format of an article.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 March 2021 11: 18
        -1
        About achievements, not about the fact that foreign instructors are trying there.
        In fact, they do it without any help, try, learn ... what they did. what have learned.
  • kot423
    kot423 31 March 2021 10: 30
    -4
    The article is nothing. All attempts by NATO and 404 are broken on aviation, missile weapons (from the Russian side) and the degradation of schools and naval saboteurs and the naval staff as a whole, tk. in addition to theory, practice is needed, and you can't get it on those inflatable troughs and mattress junk.
    I am not writing from the ceiling, because the husband of my grand-niece (moved to 14g in the Russian Navy), who lives in Sevastopol, has first-hand information (there are still friends in the Navy 404).
    1. Anzhey V.
      31 March 2021 10: 55
      +6
      Everything, the country can sleep peacefully - the husband of the grand-niece of the neighbor's dog Ivan Petrovich from the house opposite said that the Ukrainians and Americans are stupid, their boats are inflatable, and the grenades are of the wrong system laughing
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 31 March 2021 11: 22
      -8
      Quote: kot423
      I am not writing from the ceiling, because the husband of my grand-niece (moved to 14g in the Russian Navy), who lives in Sevastopol, has first-hand information (there are still friends in the Navy 404).

      This is for many svido ukrov, as a signal for dinner! Now they will fall asleep with minuses, I don’t want to! They will fly in a flock, like scavengers, vultures ..
      1. kot423
        kot423 31 March 2021 11: 32
        +3
        Quote: 30 vis
        Now they will fall asleep with minuses, I don’t want to! They will fly in a flock, like scavengers, vultures ..

        Yes, I am purple, even if they shoot, it will be cleaner! drinks
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 31 March 2021 14: 30
        -2
        Quote: 30 vis
        Now they will fall asleep with minuses, I don’t want to!

        That was what was required to prove ... Zaminusali, svido heroes, chi, as it sounds in ancient Ukrainian ...
    3. Overlock
      Overlock 31 March 2021 19: 31
      +21
      Quote: kot423
      since the husband of my grand-niece (moved to 14g in the Russian Navy), who lives in Sevastopol, has first-hand information (there are still friends in the Navy 404).

      You want to say. that what he said has a mass character and is confirmed by sociology? The only question is: how did the ATO battalions and volunteering appear in such a mood? According to your info, they shouldn't have arisen, but volunteering is out of the question? And that was all!
      1. kot423
        kot423 31 March 2021 20: 03
        0
        Quote: Overlock
        You want to say. that what he said has a mass character and is confirmed by sociology? The only question is: how did the ATO battalions and volunteering appear in such a mood?

        What are you talking about? There were battalions of ships in the ATO and the volunteering of saboteurs? Re-read what you insert into the quote and do not try to pass your thoughts off as my text.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 31 March 2021 20: 06
          +21
          Quote: kot423
          degradation of schools and marine diversions and the marine staff as a whole,

          About this, about the degradation of the Armed Forces and their moral state. After all, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are incapable of fighting?
          1. kot423
            kot423 31 March 2021 20: 57
            +2
            Quote: Overlock
            About this, about the degradation of the Armed Forces and their moral state.

            You don't see the difference between
            "the degradation of schools and sea saboteurs and the marine staff in general," and
            "degradation of the APU and their morale."?
            Again, don't attribute your thoughts to my text.
  • Dimide
    Dimide 31 March 2021 10: 34
    +3
    I have always respected VO for such analytics.
    Small amendment: - not a RK of the "Barzan" type, but a completely new project, especially for the Ukrainian Navy.
    Author Respect.
    1. Anzhey V.
      31 March 2021 10: 45
      +4
      Thank you for the praise and correction, Dimid!

      I was really mistaken with the Barzans (they misled interviews with Ukrainian naval officers), but, unfortunately, I did not have time to correct them - I read the BAE press conference after I sent the article to the editor.
  • forty-eighth
    forty-eighth 31 March 2021 10: 49
    +6
    The author, without unnecessary bravado, conducted a small superficial analysis of the situation and prospects in the Black Sea. On the whole, I agree with the analysis. "Inflatable troughs" are not as harmless as it seems at first glance, and there is not much more sense from the first-rank ships in the Black Sea.
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 31 March 2021 11: 26
      -6
      Quote: forty-eighth
      and there is not much more sense from the first-ranked ships in the Black Sea.

      And the first-rank ships can drive all these VMsuk bases into non-existence with missiles! And in general they are intended for the Mediterranean Sea and the ocean. If the time comes H, all these bases, together with American instructors, inflatable boats, and HEROi combat warriors VMsuk will be destroyed in the first place .. How? Different ways .
      1. forty-eighth
        forty-eighth 31 March 2021 13: 01
        +3
        The army and aviation are quite capable of driving into oblivion with missiles, there is no need to connect the fleet to this.
        In the 21st century, the Black Sea turned into a large puddle, since it is completely covered by the zone of action of the coastal parts.
        In order to get to the Mediterranean Sea, the Black Sea Fleet needs to solve two problems. The first is the Bosphorus, the second is the Dardanelles. While the case does not concern Turkey, these two problems can be solved, when it does ... They can also be solved, but much more difficult.
        As for the time of H, this is a separate topic, after all, there is a conversation about regional conventional conflicts.
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 31 March 2021 14: 34
          -3
          Quote: forty-eighth
          As for the time of H, this is a separate topic, after all, there is a conversation about regional conventional conflicts.

          I can't understand, here the brave warriors are coming out sank (hypothetically, two Black Sea Fleet warships, on the territory of Russia, in Sevastopol, or Novorossiysk it will be a conventional conflict, so fuss in the sandbox? Will this not serve as an impetus for a full-scale response?
          1. Reiter
            Reiter 31 March 2021 21: 31
            -2
            If they sink the ships of the Russian Navy in Crimea, then from the point of view of the existing global legal consensus, they will be in their own right. If the Russian Federation answers, they can turn to the United States for help, since Ukraine has the status of some kind of partner with the United States for this. The United States will send its troops to Ukraine and can help in the Donbass. In short, Russia will also be able to answer in its own right, but this is the situation when Russia will no longer be able not to come to the war in which it is being dragged.
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 31 March 2021 21: 51
              -1
              Quote: Reiter
              If they sink the ships of the Russian Navy in Crimea, then from the point of view of the existing global legal consensus they will be in their right.

              And nothing that the citizens of the Russian Federation will be killed, the property of the Russian Federation will be destroyed. And the states will not get involved in this war! Officially, anyway. So they will give weapons, send Poles, PMCs of their own and that's it. Ukraine is not the case for unleashing World War .. Yes, and America's point is not iron ... Maybe Russia also has a bench press ... but I agree that this is not the situation when you can not give a full-scale answer. Ukraine is not scary .. no. And the war with her will be fast, like diarrhea in a young monkey.
              1. Reiter
                Reiter April 1 2021 02: 30
                -2
                Already died, two servicemen of the Russian Federation in the Crimea from the UkroDRG - the FSB lieutenant colonel and the paratrooper sergeant, it seems. Where's the answer? He's not there, so you can continue. I'm not even talking about the murder of Zakharchenko, the head of the DPR, the signatory of Minsk-2, after all, it was just an incredibly cynical, impudent blow to the authority of Russia. She endured, wiped herself off and, as if nothing had happened, everything. And such pranks as the anthem and the flag at the Olympic Games, you can ignore them at all. The enemies of Russia get the impression that Russia has an inexhaustible limit of patience. Somehow I have forgotten the very recent incident with the "33 heroes", such an operation miraculously failed. But it was planned precisely knowing that there would be nothing in response. Unpunished arrogance will take new frontiers, do not forget about the oil-producing platforms in the Black Sea, but you never know more vulnerable points. So that.
            2. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft April 1 2021 00: 38
              +2
              Quote: Reiter
              If they sink the ships of the Russian Navy in Crimea, then from the point of view of the existing global legal consensus they will be in their right.

              The Russian Federation and its people consider Crimea to be their territory and it does not give a damn about
              the current global legal consensus

              If the United States wants to fit in for Ukraine, then they will know that from that moment on, the war ceases to be conventional, and no one will observe the rules of international law in a non-conventional war ...
              1. Reiter
                Reiter April 1 2021 02: 23
                -2
                Two Russian servicemen have already died in Crimea from an attack by a Ukrainian sabotage group, so what? War has begun? Conventional or not, at least some, what was there in response? Russia will endure for a long time and, apparently, it will have to be paid for with the lives of Russian citizens, in the Donbas, of course, in the first place. The completion of work on the SP-2 is close, so it’s time to wait for a new job. Until the SP-2 is launched, the Ukrainians, or rather the Democrats, most likely all use the moment, for them this is the most favorable moment to carry out a loud operation on the verge of a foul, to make it as painful as possible without the risk of getting a response.
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis April 1 2021 12: 45
                  0
                  How many rope does not hang, but there is an end .. So that ukram can bounce up to a certain moment, and then kirdyk. There will be no one to jump!
                  1. Reiter
                    Reiter April 1 2021 13: 12
                    0
                    Today the settlement of Aleksandrovka came under fire of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. A 73 mm shell hit the house at 6:30 am. At that moment, there were people in the room, including a ten-year-old child.
    2. t-12
      t-12 31 March 2021 11: 37
      +5
      They are quite suitable for the landing. 70 inflatable boats - this is a battalion of marines.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft April 1 2021 00: 43
        0
        [quote = t-12] They are quite suitable for the landing. 70 inflatable boats - this is a battalion of marines. / Quote]
        Armed only with a "rifleman" .... thanks for the video ...
        1. t-12
          t-12 April 1 2021 13: 26
          0
          Armed only with a "rifleman"
          What prevents the inclusion of a dozen mortars with a reserve of mines in the landing? Or a dozen javelin fighters?
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft April 1 2021 14: 38
            0
            Quote: t-12
            Armed only with a "rifleman"
            What prevents the inclusion of a dozen mortars with a reserve of mines in the landing? Or a dozen javelin fighters?

            Then there will be less landing. You already have a battalion of 70 military units with 350 boats, this is if without mortars and ATGMs ...
  • alavrin
    alavrin 31 March 2021 11: 10
    +6
    Yes, hat-covering is a well-known disease. It looks like we need to lose one more "Novorossiysk", blow off another Russian-Japanese one in order to start noticing the realities.
  • Overlock
    Overlock 31 March 2021 12: 06
    +23
    training and equipping one of the most combat-ready units of the armed forces of Ukraine - the 73rd center of naval special operations.

    If I am not mistaken, then this military unit is the successor of the 17th Special Operations Forces of the GRU General Staff, which withdrew when the fleet was divided into Ukraine. The pedigree is solid
    1. Anzhey V.
      31 March 2021 13: 59
      +1
      Yes, you are not mistaken - the staff there were solid, and, apparently, they retained their old grip.

      Now they are actively training with American and Italian combat swimmers. Their equipment, accordingly, is also "from there".
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft April 1 2021 00: 49
      0
      Quote: Overlock
      If I'm not mistaken, this military unit is the heiress of the 17th Special Brigade of the GRU General Staff

      Only she was operatively subordinate to the KChF of the USSR and there was only one such unique brigade ...
      Similar brigades (Naval sniper brigades, with tasks similar to "seeds"), are only in the DPRK, one for each fleet, I think they took an example from us ...
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 31 March 2021 12: 19
    +5
    In other words, Ukraine whistled not in 2014, but back in the 90s, and now we are writing about new calls
    1. cniza
      cniza 31 March 2021 13: 59
      +6
      Alas, but you are right ...
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 31 March 2021 15: 17
      +25
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      In other words, Ukraine whistled not in 2014, but back in the 90s, and now we are writing about new calls

      To paraphrase: we have lost our head, but we are crying through our hair. The problem arose already in the 91st! For 30 years it has grown into a real confrontation. Alas request
  • BAI
    BAI 31 March 2021 12: 37
    +4
    it takes into account the current and future capabilities of the Ukrainian Navy (including personnel and financial), the forces of a hypothetical adversary (represented by Russia), the prospects for expanding the ship's composition, functionality, taking into account the involvement of allied forces, analysis of the operational situation and many other factors that, of course, make it possible to form a list of adequate tasks and concepts that determine the position of the naval forces in matters of ensuring the defense capability of Ukraine.

    Here. About Ukraine - a normal approach, but about the Russian fleet, such fantasies, to put it mildly, carry.
  • Avior
    Avior 31 March 2021 13: 10
    +6
    Good article.
    Author Respect.
    1. Anzhey V.
      31 March 2021 13: 56
      +1
      Thank you!
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 31 March 2021 15: 18
        +23
        Quote: Anjay V.
        Thank you!

        Really good! In my opinion, such a review is the first adequate on VO. Thank you for not hiding the topic.
        1. Anzhey V.
          31 March 2021 17: 42
          +1
          Thank you, Overlock)

          I will try to raise such topics more often - in our country they are really very biased and rarely covered, but I personally and myself am interested in observing the processes of military development, which NATO organized in the same Ukraine.

          I have more interesting material on the way on the divergence between Iran and Russia in Syria ... I think many will also be curious to read it.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 31 March 2021 19: 27
            +23
            Quote: Anjay V.
            I will try to raise similar topics more often.

            This is important, since there are many who want to hit Kiev with Caliber and Atom, which in reality will never happen. But what can be, just no one says. The successes of the special forces of Ukraine are obvious: the breakthrough of the border at Perekop with those killed in our country and the Ukrainian DRG that went home, the liquidation of people in the LPNR and much that we do not know. Unfortunately, the enemy turned out to be his own, kindred and the war is completely unnecessary. And preventive measures are just needed. Thanks.
            1. Anzhey V.
              31 March 2021 20: 18
              +1
              The successes of the special forces of Ukraine are obvious: the breakthrough of the border at Perekop with those who died in our country and the Ukrainian DRG that had gone home, the elimination of people in the LPR and much that we do not know


              This is what worries me especially. And not only me - let's say, I had the opportunity to communicate with people who have professional competencies in the field of counterintelligence, and they also see this as a growing problem.

              Ukrainian MTR and SBU are much more active than the news is presented to us, and ... frankly speaking, they are much more successful.

              They do not have so much experience yet, and the current "flaws" are explained by this.

              The question is what will happen when they gain experience ...

              It is a pity that the topic is, in essence, confidential, you cannot write anything about it.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 31 March 2021 20: 26
                +22
                Quote: Anjay V.
                they also see this as a growing problem.
                Ukrainian MTR and SBU are much more active than the news is presented to us, and ... frankly speaking, they are much more successful.

                These are obvious things
                Quote: Anjay V.
                They don't have much experience yet.

                A bad thing is not a tricky one. A long time ago, even under the Soviet Union, it crossed with one of them, but from the North. He told how they were thrown into the Black Sea to "destroy" the Crimean naval base. And they did it! School one + abroad with their equipment and knowledge.
                And further! Their intelligence in Crimea is working very well. A simple everyday example: a resident of Moscow, who has a mother near the White Church, decided to visit Crimea about 2 years ago by plane. After returning home, she decided to go to her mother, but Ukraine refused to cross the border, motivating her with a visit to Crimea through Moscow. Infa merges at the level of air tickets
                1. Anzhey V.
                  31 March 2021 20: 37
                  0
                  Exactly. Exactly.

                  In the meantime, we are following the right path of our comrades of Armenians, who for almost 20 years have been telling what Azerbaijanis are cowardly oligophrenic, and in how many hours they will reach Baku.

                  Now they sit and regret that they did not sell the territory for denyuzhku when they were offered.

                  Save us from this, but you should never underestimate the enemy, no matter how weak and pitiful he may seem. I would remember Grozny, but I don’t want to dance on the bones of the guys, whom such “hat-takers” sent to death ...
          2. New Year day
            New Year day April 1 2021 11: 15
            -3
            Quote: Anjay V.
            I have more interesting material on the way.

            A very interesting point: the Sea of ​​Azov is, in fact, internal and, according to the common use of Ukraine and the Russian Federation. In fact, the presence of a base in Mariupol implies a conflict - Ukraine has every right to conduct its warships in the Kerch Strait and even invite foreign ones there. Russia will refuse this.
  • No name B
    No name B 31 March 2021 13: 11
    0
    I studied for 1,5 months in Poland, then I spent almost a month at the base, I have such a superficial opinion, of course, but the Poles say about the Soviet past - the communist regime. Those. now they live very well, a relatively high standard of living, everything they have is connected with the European Union and the United States. The similar may well be expected for Ukraine, if the standard of living rises at the level of Poland, then everything about the Slavic brotherhood, Soviet times, the common history can be completely forgotten. While people of the generation of the late 60s are still alive, someone else will remember the Soviet era, but every year we diverge further and further. The more Ukraine integrates into Europe, the further we will be. I do not know whether it is good or bad between our countries.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 31 March 2021 15: 22
      +22
      Quote: No name B
      The similar may well be expected for Ukraine, if the standard of living rises at the level of Poland, then everything about the Slavic brotherhood, Soviet times, the common history can be completely forgotten.

      On this and the calculation. "Mental Wars" was recently discussed. This is the kind of "war" going on.
  • cniza
    cniza 31 March 2021 13: 58
    +1
    A well-developed port infrastructure will facilitate the creation of additional cargo flows from Asia to Europe.


    How will they get to Asia? Yes, and China is no longer at odds ...
    1. Anzhey V.
      31 March 2021 14: 01
      0
      Turkey is actively developing logistics flows from the Asian region.

      Actually, they will get through it ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 31 March 2021 14: 04
        +2
        This is certainly possible, but not entirely economically profitable, it is easier through Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, though not very economically either ...
      2. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin April 2 2021 22: 02
        0
        Is it much easier for Turkey to lead through the Balkans, and what does Ukraine have to do with it? She is out of work in different scenarios. Americans have been in Ochakov since 15, it seems that something is not going well. And the deversants from America are not to say at a high level. Not bad, but they don't shine either. After all, the Americans taught and coached Georgia the same. Activists from Ukraine are quite capable of terrorist acts, but our FSB also doesn’t eat soup, in this regard, ours are one of the best, only Jews can compete.
    2. Avior
      Avior 31 March 2021 15: 37
      +2
      ... Yes, and China is no longer at odds ...

      Where did you get the idea? Normal relations with China.
      1. cniza
        cniza 31 March 2021 15: 38
        +2
        Maybe I missed something, Ukraine and China have no friction?
        1. Avior
          Avior 31 March 2021 15: 45
          +3
          Not with China, which he recently confirmed, there is with private Chinese
  • Sergey Obraztsov
    Sergey Obraztsov 31 March 2021 14: 22
    +1
    This is how I see it, I think many have played this game at one time. Are they dangerous? Yes. But only if they get there.

    1. Anzhey V.
      31 March 2021 14: 35
      +1
      Your analogy is clear, but you did not quite correctly perceive the Ukrainian concept)

      They do not plan attacking actions, but rather a mobile defense.

      There, too, they are far from being fools and not kamikazes, and they perfectly understand that they do not have the resources for attacking actions.
      1. Sergey Obraztsov
        Sergey Obraztsov 31 March 2021 14: 55
        +3
        It was necessary to answer in more detail. I am not saying that these punt boats with underwater special forces will go to Sevastopol in hand-to-hand combat at all times, but rather that you cannot relax with them. If you keep the arsenals full (reconnaissance equipment), dry powder (explosive delivery vehicles) and a clear head (correctly assess the possible threat), then shoot these comrades, as in a computer game, will not be a problem. But if you look the other way, and "run around the map with a chainsaw", then you can do a lot of bad things.
        1. Anzhey V.
          31 March 2021 15: 05
          +3
          Now I understand you, thanks for the clarification)
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 31 March 2021 15: 20
          +20
          Quote: Sergey Obraztsov
          I'm not saying that these punt boats with underwater special forces will go to Sevastopol in hand-to-hand combat at all times

          That's right, but it's only today, and tomorrow ...? USA works with Ukraine for a long time
          1. Sergey Obraztsov
            Sergey Obraztsov 31 March 2021 15: 49
            0
            But does Russia stand still in terms of the military-industrial complex and does not work with Ukraine? What is happening in the media space is just an echo of the work that is being done "into the dark." Yes, and I have an assumption that if tomorrow "the Russians go", then everything will end in almost the same way as in the Crimea in 2014. Nobody wants to die for the glory of a new "Heavenly Hundred". Everyone perfectly understands the balance of power. And politicians who shout "we will reach Moscow" and even more so ordinary citizens. And the Russian Armed Forces will not even notice that layer of turned nationalists. Well, then the FSB will chase local partisans for a couple of years, but they have enough experience.
            Of course, there are several western regions of the square, in which things could be a little less rosy, but there are few Russians living there, we need them. The issue, both in 2014 and today, is entirely political, not military.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 31 March 2021 19: 18
              +20
              Quote: Sergey Obraztsov
              And politicians who shout "we will reach Moscow" and even more so ordinary citizens. And the Russian Armed Forces will not even notice that layer of turned nationalists.

              What do you know about the mood in Ukraine? Do you think that the population is just waiting for the "liberation" throw? This is an illusion. It is enough to look at the statistics by regions of those who participated and died in the ATO

              Quote: Sergey Obraztsov
              Well, then the FSB will chase local partisans for a couple of years, but they have enough experience.

              Until 56, the NKVD chased the Bandera people to no avail. The problem was "solved" by amnesty, but it came back to haunt decades later.
              1. Sergey Obraztsov
                Sergey Obraztsov April 1 2021 10: 40
                0
                What do you know about the mood in Ukraine? Do you think that the population is just waiting for the "liberation" throw? This is an illusion.


                I judge about this map. The data is old, the data does not inspire 100% confidence, but judging by my friends, everything is roughly +/- this is the case.



                It is enough to look at the statistics by regions of those who participated and died in the ATO

                There was already a civil war in Russia 100 years ago. And now, since 2014, it is essentially the same. Russians on dombas kill Russians. So what? Has the country collapsed?
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day April 1 2021 11: 10
                  -1
                  Quote: Sergey Obraztsov
                  Russians on dombas kill Russians. So what?

                  Is this normal?
            2. alexey sidykin
              alexey sidykin April 2 2021 22: 05
              +1
              About a couple of years it’s in vain, this lads are capable of a long fight. After the Second World War, up to the 50s, they were taken out of the caches.
  • demiurg
    demiurg 31 March 2021 15: 57
    +1
    Uh-huh, the first stage is 70 million bucks, the second is 100+ the third is 150 ...
    They also want to buy rafali.

    All this boat nonsense is destroyed in a closed reservoir, which is the Sea of ​​Azov, by 2-3 helicopters with thermal imagers and vortices very quickly and beautiful video.

    Ukraine needs to be puzzled by the creation of a small professional army, which Ukraine will be able to produce a certain amount of bulat and BTR-4, Mi-2 and Mi-8 they can keep for a long time, the engines themselves produce. Really buy something inexpensive flying Yak-140 or L-39NG, 2-3-4 dozen.
    Ukraine will be able to build boats of level 1241. And in this building there were both border guards and PLO.

    But this will not happen as long as there are more admirals than combat pennants. They will collect as the ever-memorable Gunya says "old crumble with shield-gathering latrines, driven by poorly fed recruits in bad shoes"©. They'll take a loan for Rafali, for ten like pieces.
    And they will be left with combat swimmers near Donetsk without air support and tanks.
    1. Avior
      Avior 31 March 2021 16: 40
      +3
      Do you have information about buying rafals? Can you post a link?
    2. Anzhey V.
      31 March 2021 20: 23
      -1
      70 million dollars, second 100+ third 150 ..


      And you look at their defense budget and you will understand that these are very modest figures, even within its limits.

      All this boat nonsense is destroyed in a confined reservoir, which is the Sea of ​​Azov by 2-3 helicopters with thermal imagers and vortices very quickly and beautiful video


      Demiurge, excuse me, but have you at least a little understood the concept of coastal defense that they are building?
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft April 1 2021 00: 07
    0
    There is a question about the article to the author.
    1. The article says:
    In turn, these tasks are supposed to be completed in three stages (five years each):
    1. ........................... and create the potential necessary to break the naval blockade.

    How can the IMSU conduct successful deblacade actions, provided that (written in the article):
    4. Creation of expeditionary formations. The ship's composition is represented by corvettes type "Ada" (made in Turkey). These vessels will be purchased only at the last stage. implementation of the "Strategy of the Navy-2035", that is, approximately not earlier than 2030 of the year.

    Accordingly, the task of deblakade cannot be completed until corvettes appear as part of the Ukrainian Navy ...
    1. Anzhey V.
      April 1 2021 09: 40
      +1
      How can the IMSU conduct successful deblacade actions, provided that (written in the article):


      This clause rather implies an unblocking potential for breaking the blockade in the immediate vicinity of the coastal zone - and it is really possible to provide it with DBKs, missile boats, saboteurs and mine layers.
      1. Russian jacket
        Russian jacket April 4 2021 09: 58
        0
        Great article. Thanks. Since there has been more fiction on VO lately. But it seems to me that the author slightly exaggerates the possibilities of Ukraine and their curators. In 404, they clearly understand that there is a limit to dirty tricks. They let it down once, let it down twice, then the answer will come, to the advertised, but painful one. Like the explosion of Colonel Kharaberyush. Maybe they blew up their own, but still ... The exercises of the Marine Corps, the same not advertised, aimed at counter-sabotage activities, shows that the command takes such challenges seriously. Personnel. The same Russia has more opportunities for combat swimmers who know how to work not only in salt water, but also at fresh depths. Lake Baikal will help us ... I completely agree on the tension at the border. For this, the project is being created. But the experience of serving in the army does not go out of my head. What is not a capter is a Ukrainian. And part-time snitch. And each individual storyteller, Baron Munchausen is resting.

        PS Georgians were also trained by instructors from all over the world. But in reality, those units that were headed by officers of the old school were at war with the Russian army. But shapkozakidatelstvo harmful, this is a fact, as correctly noted in the article.
    2. Bogdan Stashinsky
      Bogdan Stashinsky 29 May 2021 15: 07
      +1
      Do you think they will not hand over corvettes, like three boats and the Crimea?
  • Fisherman
    Fisherman April 1 2021 21: 41
    0
    The author clearly went overboard about the "motivation of the personnel". Yes, in defense in a trench, with ammunition and without grubs, Slavic stubborn roots still resist. But to go on a rampage in the form of a saboteur without the ability to survive and fill your belly someday ?! The author, like the Yankees, overestimates the motivation of ukrov .... there is to grab and the main thing on the bench ... to kill - yes, to die - and we are for sho?
  • Li17
    Li17 April 5 2021 11: 55
    0
    Everything is fine on paper, but they forgot about ... the economy. A strong fleet cannot be strong without an economic component. Maintenance, service will not be due to the fact that you will have to yell Slava ... in the hope that a good uncle will appear from behind the cordon! So everything will be as usual!
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  • Bogdan Stashinsky
    Bogdan Stashinsky 29 May 2021 15: 04
    0
    Strategy is good, but after Crimea in 14th and Kerch in 18th, will we remember Donetsk airport?)))
  • AleksSandro
    AleksSandro 4 June 2021 00: 15
    0
    Shortly before the collapse of the USSR, he studied at a military school. In Ukraine (and not "in Ukraine", as the author of the article writes and as our liberals say). Today my classmates, now retirees, who remained in the independent, even the natives of Russia, have become such ukronatsik that my mother does not cry! And there were, after all, normal guys ... My second education is history. Throughout the 90s and early 2000s, while in Russia, I read textbooks on the history of Ukraine on the Internet, which contained such wild delirium and such wild Russophobia that it was not clear where our "top officials" were looking. Well, okay, Yeltsin's, but even Putin's, did not notice anything point-blank, they kept repeating: this is "growing pains", it will soon pass. It did not pass. On the contrary, it took on exaggerated proportions. How naive are those who today believe that a "brotherly narod" lives in Square under the Bandera government! The "brothers" have long been reformatted, even those who, avoiding service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, go to the EU as guest workers, still pathologically hate our whole country and all of us, 30-35 years of purposeful zombie bribery have borne fruit, and now to "reformat" the independent and its citizens are possible only for 30-40 years of purposeful ideological work after the elimination of its power by our Armed Forces and the establishment of martial law in it. And the Nazis have never given power to anyone themselves, which can only be taken away from them by an external force, and there is no other force besides our Armed Forces for this.