Finland is preparing to launch the most powerful nuclear reactor in Europe at the Olkiluoto NPP

In Finland, the construction of the third power unit of the Olkiluoto nuclear power plant, located on the coast of the Gulf of Bothnia of the Baltic Sea, on the island of the same name, is nearing completion. This is reported by the European media.

According to press reports, the nuclear power plant operator Teollisuuden Voima Oyj (TVO) has finally received licenses from the state nuclear regulator (STUK) to load fuel into the reactor and will soon launch the most powerful nuclear reactor in Europe. It is reported that regular electricity production from the new power unit will begin in February 2022.

Although the nuclear power plant, which has been under construction since 2005, was supposed to be operational before 2009, the country's Radiation and Nuclear Safety Authority gave its permission to load the plant with fuel only last Friday.

- said in a statement.

Currently, Olkiluoto NPP operates two power units with "boiling" reactors of the BWR-2500 type, designed by the Swedish concern ABB with a capacity of 900 MW each, which were put into operation in 1978 and 1980. The third power unit, construction of which began in 2005, has a new generation EPR-1600 reactor, which is considered the most powerful reactor in operation in Europe.

The question remains how Lithuania will behave in this case, which is sharply opposed to the construction of the Belarusian nuclear power plant. Or the Finnish nuclear power plant is located far from the territory of Lithuania, and the electricity it generates is "European and democratic".

Comments

[Olgovich]

Oh, but what about the ecology and condemnation of the Belarusian nuclear power plant?

Lithuania fiercely fights against it and ... gets energy from .. FINNISH and Swedish nuclear power plants and dirty coal plants in Poland ...

[rocket757]

It's different, don't you know?

[knn54]

The current from Scandinavia is the ordered movement of DEMOCRATIC electrons ...

[lucul]

It's different, don't you know?

You do not understand, this is different!

The current from Scandinavia is the orderly movement of DEMOCRATIC electrons

Or "is this the other"?

Guys are trained - they will eat any oppa and even spit out bones)))

[rocket757]

As usual, once and for all .... cool.

[Bykov.]

Quote: Olgovich

Oh, but what about the ecology and condemnation of the Belarusian nuclear power plant ?.

You do not understand, this is different!

[halpat]

Quote: Olgovich

Oh, but what about the ecology and condemnation of the Belarusian nuclear power plant?

Lithuania fiercely fights against it and ... gets energy from .. FINNISH and Swedish nuclear power plants and dirty coal plants in Poland ...

He hasn't received it yet, but there are plans. But there along the way there are 2 more Baltic tigers - Estonia and Latvia. So before Lithuania, we need to build a couple more blocks in Finland.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Halpat

But there along the way there are 2 more Baltic tigers - Estonia and Latvia.

These two "tigers" are quite good at eating old energy coming through the wires directly from the "den" and are not buzzing. But Lithuania, yes, it costs itself so all diversified and squint, trying not to see the visible, to see the non-existent.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Olgovich

Oh, but what about the ecology and condemnation of the Belarusian nuclear power plant?

Lithuania fiercely fights against it and ... gets energy from .. FINNISH and Swedish nuclear power plants and dirty coal plants in Poland ...

So it seems like the whole of Europe is against nuclear power plants and for ecological energy ?!
Or Finn-lian-diIa already or not Europe yet ?!

[halpat]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: Olgovich

Oh, but what about the ecology and condemnation of the Belarusian nuclear power plant?

Lithuania fiercely fights against it and ... gets energy from .. FINNISH and Swedish nuclear power plants and dirty coal plants in Poland ...

So it seems like the whole of Europe is against nuclear power plants and for ecological energy ?!
Or Finn-lian-diIa already or not Europe yet ?!

In Scandinavia (not only in Finland) there is little sun. And generally colder than in Spain.
And therefore the brains think more correctly. And they choose the most efficient and environmentally friendly type of electricity generation - nuclear power.
No Greta will fail
The French are also not very responsive to the hysterical calls of far from impartiality on the basis of 100% payment by the owners of a bunch of ecological sects.

[Artavazdych]

the most efficient and environmentally friendly form of electricity generation is nuclear power.

Where did you find out about this? When I was studying at the institute, we were told something else. And now, having worked for more than 20 years at the reactor control panel, I have become convinced of this in practice.
Nuclear energy is infinitely expensive, if only because all of its power generation will not even cover the cost of electricity for handling nuclear weapons. The block has been operating for 35-40-50 years, and the storage will be serviced 500-50000 -... in general, until the end of the century. And no one has yet figured out what to do with long-lived fission products.
Well, about cleanliness ... Chernobyl was not enough. Fukushima was somehow not impressed. What else needs to happen so that they finally stop repeating the patriotic talk from the TV box?

[halpat]

Quote: Artavazdych

the most efficient and environmentally friendly form of electricity generation is nuclear power.

Where did you find out about this? When I was studying at the institute, we were told something else. And now, having worked for more than 20 years at the reactor control panel, I have become convinced of this in practice.
Nuclear energy is infinitely expensive, if only because all of its power generation will not even cover the cost of electricity for handling nuclear weapons. The block has been operating for 35-40-50 years, and the storage will be serviced 500-50000 -... in general, until the end of the century. And no one has yet figured out what to do with long-lived fission products.
Well, about cleanliness ... Chernobyl was not enough. Fukushima was somehow not impressed. What else needs to happen so that they finally stop repeating the patriotic talk from the TV box?

Go to retirement It's time for you.
Chernobyl / Fukushima ... foolishly you can break a dick
And this ... don't forget to put your reactor on the parking brake. Right on the floor on the right side of your chair is, well, like in Zhiguli :))

[Artavazdych]

Expected answer ...

[Keyser soze]

Expected answer ...

These are the sofa specialists on duty. They are not up to the opinion of some atomic scientist. They learned FSE in the crucible of life, that is, in a rural tavern.

[halpat]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Expected answer ...

These are the sofa specialists on duty. They are not up to the opinion of some atomic scientist. They learned FSE in the crucible of life, that is, in a rural tavern.

There are doubts about the "atomic scientist" just.
And so my education is profile and therefore I know what I am writing about.

[Artavazdych]

Trust, but verify, as they say. Where did you study (university, department, specialty)?

[Artavazdych]

Are you silent, sir? Do not hesitate, I myself am not transcendental heights)))
5 pulpit of mithi

[hrych]

Quote: Artavazdych

Where did you find out about this?

Who asked?

Quote: Artavazdych

The unit has been operating for 35-40-50 years, and the storage will be serviced 500-50000 -...

Can't you replace the blocks? Waste storage requires energy costs commensurate with the production of a nuclear power plant, or so on little things, are they kept in tanks?

Quote: Artavazdych

Chernobyl was not enough. Fukushima was somehow not impressed.

The first was blown up during strange trials, the second was hit by a tsunami. They say artificial to destroy Japan's secret nuclear arsenal. A little more than the Sichuan earthquake destroyed the Chinese nuclear center. Or people, maybe non-people have tried? If nature, then why does it heal? Why did Chernobyl coincide with Perestroika, i.e. when the USSR, how was the project scrapped? Is a hydroelectric power station better when they create an eco-catastrophe by a dam? And fuming thermal power plants are better when uranium in coal gives more radiation pollution?

[Artavazdych]

Can't you replace the blocks? Waste storage requires energy expenditures commensurate with the output of a nuclear power plant

Blocks can be replaced. However, decommissioning a unit is more expensive than building a new one. And these costs do not include in the cost of electricity for nuclear power plants. And not all withdrawal technologies have been developed yet. Moreover, I can tell you, no one knows what to do, for example, with damaged fuel in the spent fuel pools. Etc.
The spent fuel storage will consume electricity over several thousand years, equal to the output of all nuclear power plants from which fuel is located there. About such trifles as salary of workers, I will not say anything.
What you wrote next, I cannot clearly understand, therefore I am not commenting.

[hrych]

If you devote several thousand years to humanity, then technologies will not remain in place. There will be Star Destroyers, nuclear waste will be loaded and sent to the Sun by direct fire. New technologies for processing mining will appear. This waste will be the most valuable raw material. It is easy to understand me, I regard Chernobyl, Fukushima and Sichuan as deliberate actions, moreover, sniper-verified. Your comments on this issue are of little interest to me when I saw how, near Fukushima, a funnel dragged away not the smallest ship with a hundred people on board. I just imagined that the Japanese dug there to make such a funnel. And the fact is that before the explosion of Chernobyl, an experiment was carried out on the fourth power unit. And turn to our enemies, let the first abandon the nuclear power plant, then we will think about it. So far, the Russian Federation is the leader in the atomic sphere in many respects. And we are a northern country, in the Arctic and beyond the Arctic Circle there is NO alternative to nuclear ships and nuclear power plants. You are a nuclear engineer or a green student of Greitta Tumberg, no one will listen to you and your arguments are weak.

[Artavazdych]

If you devote several thousand years to humanity, then technologies will not remain in place

Well, I'm not taking it away, but the Lord. And how much - no one knows.
Technologies do not stand still, of course. Today they are mostly degraded. But nuclear waste is more likely not a technology, but a science, maybe even fundamental. But she is not.
So I consider this principle "we will take care of it, and the grandchildren will somehow figure it out" to be baboon.
Regarding accidents - what's the difference whether they are man-made / deliberate or not? I have no doubt that there is still a lot of "interesting" ahead.

[hrych]

Quote: Artavazdych

So I consider this principle "we will take care of it, and the grandchildren will somehow figure it out" to be baboon.

Progress cannot be stopped and there is nothing wrong with waste. Compared to volcanic activity, mankind's efforts are insignificant in terms of pollution.

[Artavazdych]

Technologies ... All civilizations develop according to one scenario - birth, prosperity, decline. So the current decline.
How old are you? Does strontium hurt your bones yet?
Joke.

[hrych]

The decline is only your mood. Where is he? The fact that the phone, or rather a full-fledged videophone, has everything? And this is several decades after the turntable Is hypersound not progress? Is the assembly of the nuclear-space tug not progress? Where is the decline? LGBT or BLM? Well, a couple of countries will collapse and nothing. Well, they will go flat and kill these Belemschiks, etc. Is there a decline in the decline in infant mortality? Maybe in neurosurgery. Genetic engineering? What is it?

[Artavazdych]

For all of the above, the backlog was created ~ 50 years ago. It's just that now all this has become massive.
And what used to serve for the needs of science or the defense industry is now for comfort or profit growth. Sunset classic.

[hrych]

Quote: Artavazdych

For all of the above, the backlog was created ~ 50 years

And before that, when the Tsar was hurt. Progress on the face. The limit of supersonic speed in the atmosphere was reached due to the instability of materials, but now hypersound has also overcome it, as a qualitative leap is gaining momentum. A high-quality race is planned with a compact YSU of high power, as in water, over water, in the atmosphere and in space. Nanotechnology also gives not quantitative, but qualitative leaps. Technologies based on new physical principles still appear before in the army.

[Artavazdych]

Under the king ... If this is your sarcasm, it is in vain.
Landau's theoretical physics course was written in the 60s and was reprinted with minor additions. There are about 8-10 volumes in all areas of science. Nothing new since then. And the last really great discovery dates back to 1933, it was made by Chadwick, who discovered the neutron.
I'm not special about hypersound, but something tells me that our Satan rockets entered the atmosphere on hypersound.
In the 90s, the CCP's generation changed almost every year. Now I am typing on my phone, which 5 years ago was cool enough, but today it is still nothing. And my computer is generally 12 years old, and there is no need to change.
Where there is still progress, there is a slowdown, this is obvious. And where there is none, there is a loss of technology, and this is not only in the Russian Federation.

[hrych]

The laws of the universe are not limitless. There is no sarcasm about the Tsar, without the periodic law of Mendeleev there would be sadness in chemistry, without Tsiolkovsky's calculations there would be sadness in astronautics, without Pirogov, Sechenov, Mechnikov, Pavlov there would be sadness in medicine, physiology, etc. controlled flight on hypersonic, etc. Now the Vanguard ICBM BB also performs controlled flight and maneuvering on hypersonic, naturally hypersonic cruise missiles also maneuver. Those. we can say that hypersound in the atmosphere was still curbed, and it was in the Russian Federation. We approached the creation of the MiG-41 fighter close to hypersonic. Synthesized transuranic superactinoids. Major advances in deep space exploration, including rovers, Cassini-Huygens yielded super discoveries with the first soft landing in the outer solar system. Soft landing on an asteroid, delivery of asteroid soil, soft landing on a comet. Therefore, there is a progressive growth of achievements in all fields of science and technology. No technology is lost, this is heresy. Just don't give an example of a fake lunar landing.

[Artavazdych]

Well, if the lunar landing is a scam, then all of the above, too, my approach is this.
Some of the United States' nuclear and space technologies have been lost. We do not have entire branches, especially in light industry. Machine tool building, robotics, conveyor equipment, etc.
The quality of metals is declining all over the world. Food production.

[Artavazdych]

Synthesizing transurans with a half-life of milliseconds is not a tricky business. To discover stable transurans in nature with a number of more than 140 - this will be a breakthrough in science, but it will not.

[hrych]

Quote: Artavazdych

Open stable transurans

In addition, everything is moving slowly but surely. We've already reached the superactinoids. Robot building and machine tool building did not go anywhere, unless the mass character suffered, they were sent to India, China and Indochina. Nothing wrong with that. In the United States, nuclear technologies have not been lost either, with investments it is possible to restore it, but Russia took the enrichment cluster for itself. This is a redistribution, not a general degradation. Where it decreased, and where it increased. In space, perhaps the rejection of the Space Shuttle, but this is not a loss, but ran ahead when materials and technologies are not ready. Forced by the Cold War and the space race, where they took risks and came to disasters. The Moon and the Saturn rocket are a separate topic, this decoration is superb.

[Artavazdych]

No, well, this is how you can explain and justify everything. Jesuitism is called or whatever

[hrych]

The main thing is that it is not even stagnation, but the development of scientific and technological progress, of course, mainly quantitatively. There are no qualitative leaps in the 20th century yet, but it is in Russia that they are outlined. You generally denied the growth of scientific and technological progress and declared degradation.

[Artavazdych]

In Russia, if anything is planned, then the collapse of education. I have five students. And at work, I see what the level of young specialists is now.
And the transfer of education to DSP, I believe, is taking place not only in Russia, but all over the world.

[hrych]

This is a joint liberal-communist myth. The percentage of people with higher education in the Russian Federation is higher than in the RSFSR. There was no type of vocational school, where bukhalovo and abortions? The RSFSR in the Union in terms of the level of graduates from universities per capita is extreme, and the first is ... Kyrgyzstan. So in the universities of the RSFSR there is a fixed quota for the union republics and even autonomies. These students were distinguished by intelligence and ingenuity, like the bird Talker, some even knew how to write. The level of education was low, I myself found myself studying at a university in the USSR. They overloaded their brains with theses of the plenums of the Central Committee of the CPSU, and other Marxism-Lenenism. There were no normal chromatographs, no NMR, computers came in for foreign currency, as many as 286 processors, it was so cool Now kindergarteners with computers and smartphones understand better than Soviet students, not to mention schoolchildren. And what about CT and MRI? With an alliance, until you open the patient, you will not understand that it was not necessary to open Genetics are just rumors. Now the data obtained from electron microscopes and modern research methods are simply crossed out by many of the knowledge given in Soviet universities as erroneous. Those. knowledge was ... rubbish

[Artavazdych]

Well, that's it, we've arrived.
We have secretaries with 2-3 higher educations. And graduated from academies under governments. And I somehow have one, albeit soviet, but MEPhI-shny enough to this day. And if everyone was sick of the history of the Communist Party, now no one is sick of 3 pairs in a row management-finance-marketing.
I repeat once again - nonesh high school graduates are a disgrace of some sort. At least I am a poor student both at school and at university, but for some reason after 25-30 years I remember the theorem of sines or the Bernoulli equation, and these colleagues are just scratching their turnips: "the name is familiar"
The opinion is not mine, collective. And they call us dinosaurs for some reason, respectfully.

[hrych]

Do many people who graduated from universities in the USSR remember the Bernoulli equation? I know that the majority of Soviet students, and excellent students, studied on the principle of shooting and forgetting Academicians? Well, in the USSR there were also academics ... hacking, small-grammatical according to the party and national quota Lukyanov is Doctor of Science, Gorbachev Doctor of Science. For me, it's just mentally retarded

[Artavazdych]

Do many people who graduated from universities in the USSR remember the Bernoulli equation?

Yes. It's just that everyone remembers their bread. Someone Bernoulli, someone laval nozzles, someone is a good welder, a bird, as you say. And it drives 400 kilo rubles on the pipelines of Gazprom. Because the others simply do not exist, but it was too bad for nonesh "lawyers" to go to the vocational school, one above that.

[hrych]

Let's just say and disperse, they say, smart guys then and now could and can get a decent education and, most importantly, knowledge. There would be desire, ability and lack of force majeure. There is not enough knowledge of the Unified State Examination education, please, you don't even need to crawl into the library, textbooks and articles are posted on the Internet. I rewrote nasty articles in this library and spent so much time on all sorts of rubbish that the current level of technology and information field does not require. We can find everything in the blink of an eye. And this is a blessing.

[Artavazdych]

I will say the last, and we disperse.
I didn’t come up with it - children's doctors say. The knowledge gained in a filthy library, in queues, in rewriting by hand - remains for life and works. The knowledge that you take, I don’t want, is not assimilated or remains without application, does not represent value for the owner.
Roughly speaking, Lomonosov was eager to go to Moscow for the inaccessible. And today he might not have opened a book or laptop.

[polpol]

If you are a nuclear scientist, you should know about BN-600, BN-800, BN-1200 and about the closed nuclear cycle.
There is no spent nuclear fuel.
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/?text=Реакторах%20на%20быстрых%20нейтронах&path=wizard&parent-reqid=1617155812189450-475733940080042917800271-production-app-host-sas-web-yp-95&wiz_type=vital&filmId=12288199613888183323

[Artavazdych]

Only bn require an initial loading of highly enriched fuel. And what to do with so much waste rubbish from RBMK?

[Novichek]

[quote = hrych] ..... Star Destroyers, will load nuclear waste and send it directly to the Sun ...[/ Quote]
[quote = hrych]. Uh-huh!) Do not grind bags with your tongue! Do you give a guarantee? Yes, this will require resources, resources And once again resources !!

[hrych]

So don't get stuck with your tongue

[voyaka uh]

"The second was hit by a tsunami. They say artificial, in order to destroy the secret nuclear arsenal of Japan. A little more than the Sichuan earthquake, the Chinese nuclear center was liquidated" ////
----
Artificial tsunami, artificial earthquake.
Reptilians do not sleep.
In his repertoire?

[hrych]

First, look at the funnel, laid out above and think about what and how the Japanese dug there. Secondly, with an artificial tsunami, your kibbutz will soon be demolished ala Poseidon possibly Persians, possibly Arabs, and possibly pale-faced Here, after all, Poseidon is not needed, they will take a sea container with a thermonuclear filling and dump Haifa not far off and Kush Dan will flush stories down the toilet

[voyaka uh]

The main thing is not to get sick!
You need fiction stories.

[hrych]

But why? Not anyone, but Sakharov, the stepfather of the Tsar Bomba, developed a flush for everyone ... And he is an academician and practitioner with monstrous creations. I don’t have to believe, believe Sakharov and believe in Kuzkina's Mother. Kuzkina Mother is not a mustachioed Lena Bonner. Do not confuse, although worse than an atomic bomb

[Maxim Shalak]

What station did you work at? And what does the TV box have to do with it.

[Artavazdych]

I work to this day. Kursk

[Maxim Shalak]

It’s strange. There are errors in terminology. Atomic scientists don't make them ...

[Artavazdych]

Errors? For example?

[Maxim Shalak]

Quote: Artavazdych

Errors? For example?

Here

... Moreover, I can tell you, no one knows what to do, for example, with damaged fuel in the spent fuel pools.

What is damaged fuel?

[Artavazdych]

These are, for example, fuel cartridges broken in half. These are bent cassettes. These are cassettes with fuel rods sticking out in different directions. There are just fuel pellets scattered at the bottom, and in the kmpc itself. More questions?

[Maxim Shalak]

Quote: Artavazdych

These are, for example, fuel cartridges broken in half. These are bent cassettes. These are cassettes with fuel rods sticking out in different directions. There are just fuel pellets scattered at the bottom, and in the kmpc itself. More questions?

This is not damaged fuel. These are damaged fuel assemblies. And the fuel is inside. This must be understood if you are, of course, an atomic scientist.)))

[Artavazdych]

No, don't understand, no, of course.
My stations are all so stupid, all call fuel fuel.
Unloading fuel from a container car, unloading fuel to an ISFS, etc.
Stupid, cho

[Artavazdych]

Well, if you have not come across the term "fuel rod damage limit" in ABY, these are your problems as an atomic scientist. If, of course, you are an atomic scientist

[Maxim Shalak]

Quote: Artavazdych

Well, if you have not come across the term "fuel rod damage limit" in ABY, these are your problems as an atomic scientist. If, of course, you are an atomic scientist

We test and set the limits. You work on them;)

[Artavazdych]

And you were confused by the "damaged fuel"
Managers)))

[Maxim Shalak]

Dear, you are simply not that deep in the topic of spent fuel assemblies research. You have your own theme, I have my own. A quarter of a century in the service of the Republic of Belarus.

[Artavazdych]

Um ...
Let's not?
You are writing to us the rule of ABY. You are also in the service of the Republic of Belarus. At the same time, you are exploring where I am "not so deep"
And what about the cost, you made me ("wrong terminology" is a deadly argument, just shoot yourself)
I hate the arrogant. For I have never met any arrogant specialists.
Perhaps, I will ask you publicly here about both Pbya and OHS?
Ready?
Introductory question. Where did you study? What is the degree?

[Maxim Shalak]

Oh how. The letters were used. Test. But I will not confess, you are still shallow. Good luck in the service.

[Artavazdych]

Well, everything is clear. You did not accept the challenge. They got cold feet ...

[_Ugene_]

Quote: Artavazdych

Nuclear energy is infinitely expensive, if only because

somehow the Finns are not very solidarity with you, even though you teach them, otherwise they don't know anything

[Artavazdych]

That's right, they don't have a headache about waste.

[_Ugene_]

When the Finnish government issued a license to operate the Olkiluoto nuclear power plant in 1978, it instructed the licensee to develop a waste management plan, including spent nuclear fuel, to be disposed of in Finland.

Finland continues construction of the world's first safe disposal facility for spent fuel

https://www.atomic-energy.ru/articles/2020/01/15/100652

[zhartsbor.net]

Victor, you are VIUR, VIUT or m. NSB? I recommend going to the NSS and by direct telephone to contact the CD of your station. Ask what is the profitability of 1 MW of your station and what is the price on the BR and RSV markets. After that, you can safely write as "infinitely dear". If you of course understand what I wrote about.

[Artavazdych]

I repeat once again - the cost of electricity for a nuclear power plant does NOT include the cost of decommissioning. Nobody has really done them yet. As no one thought, how much it costs to store fuel for 10 thousand years.
Moreover, Rosatom is a highly subsidized corporation. Take an interest.
My NSSs fully share this point of view.
KD is a commercial dispatcher? I didn't guess right away. I beg you, these are boys for just getting a salary. 20 years ago they did not exist as a class. As well as over 70 other new units at the station.

[Artavazdych]

Yes, and electricity trading, markets, quotes and other crap that reduces the stability of the energy system and shakes it, will one day lead to the collapse of the latter.
Divorced parasites ...

[Boris Petrov-Vodkin]

a patriotic talker from a TV box?
==========
Are you a gozoyop chtol shareware?

[your1970]

Finland after WWII clearly understood - unlike all the others - an affectionate heifer of two queens sucks ... Very well settled down and cut their hair on both sides of the confrontation between the EU and the Russian Federation

[Thrifty]

Why Lithuania? The dying out barks only in the direction of Russia, for barking in the other direction they can move the bowl farther, and make the leash shorter! !!

[Dimy4]

This is a direct spit in the face of Greta Thunberg. The end of all green grass-ants, radioactive now will be. Or "is this the other"?

[Skay]

This is a direct spit in the face of Greta Thunberg.

Will endure. They were going to erect a monument to her at the University of Winchester.

[halpat]

Quote: Dimy4

This is a direct spit in the face of Greta Thunberg. The end of all green grass-ants, radioactive now will be. Or "is this the other"?

Greta is still surprised that bamboo is not a tree, but grass. That is, as it were, her claims to chopsticks missed the mark.
And he is preparing to abandon toilet paper, which is just made from wood in Sweden.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

And he is preparing to abandon toilet paper, which is just made from wood in Sweden.

.... Gretta will have to wash away .... but here, too, ... the communal energy from the nuclear power plant ... you can, of course, be on the lisapedik on the coast ... again, what if there is an Ebola virus in the water or something else .. ... yes and cold ... yeah yeah

[Hunter 2]

Who will supply the fuel?

[Cananecat]

Quote: Hunter 2

Who will supply the fuel?

We supply the Loviisa NPP. I do not think that the Finns will use different TVEL suppliers.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Hunter 2

Who will supply the fuel?

Orano SA (until 2018 - Areva SA)
The Finns ate their fill with the third block of ERP-1660.

[Guru]

Who will supply the fuel?

Most likely OUR, although there the Devil himself will break his leg In 2009, Finland imported nuclear fuel from Sweden (40%), Russia (18%), Germany (2%) and other countries (40%). In 2006, Spain was another nuclear fuel source country.

[stas Sv]

From the tree-stick, and forgot to ask "sacred" Gretta ???

[donavi49]

Or the Finnish nuclear power plant is located far from the territory of Lithuania, and the electricity it generates is "European and democratic".

Areva did it. By the way, this is the most powerful commercial issue unit in the world. In China, two are working. They are already building their own CAP1400 (1400 outputs) in Shandong on its basis.

Taishan, on the other hand, operates in 2 blocks of 1750 gross each.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: donavi49

1750 gross.

What is gross? What is 1750 kilowatts?

[donavi49]

Gross is the total output.
The commercial one is smaller, that is, what goes into the power grid, in this case 1660.

mW.

[Mordvin 3]

Megawatts? Wow, that's a lot and more ... Lucky dates ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: donavi49

Gross is the total output.

I understood....

[petrol cutter]

To hell with her, with the environment.
Although, and what about the environment, there is just some water, in theory, goes around. Cools / heats up.
Heating / Cooling ...
Why did such a long-term construction come out?
This question is not covered in the article ...

[hydrox]

It seems that the dates were greedy: to take several thousand subcontractors for such volumes - oh well, there would be an acceleration of work, but it turned out to be a natural and very long slowdown, we will keep quiet about the quality of work for now ...
But relic ...

[tihonmarine]

Or the Finnish nuclear power plant is located far from the territory of Lithuania, and the electricity it generates is "European and democratic".

Democratic electricity differs from the Belarusian one by its smell; the whole of Europe smells it. This smell cannot be confused.

[Cowbra]

Uhaha))) In general, this reactor, long before its launch, managed to acquire so many funny stories that a film should be made about it. You can start with that. that he played an important role in the bankruptcy of Areva and the subsequent rescue of a PRIVATE company, well, not for all the EU, but for the whole state of France - for sure. But a film about him will not be shot, because Louis de Funes was alone, and no one else from the French can play there. Especially in the role of the economist who, during the construction, saved on everything except the invitation for the Poles-guest workers of the priest on weekends from Poland, while the work was carried out in such a way that instead of the end of the zero blocks they did not start up in the 20s, and even blocks of two one piece left

[AllXVahhaB]

How does the thermal power of the reactor differ from the electrical power?

[Foul skeptic]

Perhaps because the reactor has no indicator - electrical power. This is the indicator of the generator

[Beby]

The reactor provides thermal power, 25% -40% of which can be converted into electrical power.
Therefore, when discussing GW (MW), the term "power unit" is usually used.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Currently, Olkiluoto NPP operates two power units with "boiling" reactors of the BWR-2500 type, designed by the Swedish concern ABB with a capacity of 900 MW each, which were put into operation in 1978 and 1980. The third power unit, construction of which began in 2005, has a new generation EPR-1600 reactor, which is considered one of the most powerful reactor models in the world.

[Kurare]

Swedish concern ABB

ABB is headquartered in Switzerland.
ABB originated from the merger of the Swedish company Asea and the Swiss company Brown Bovery & Cie.

[Gennady Fomkin]

In the city of Seversk, 25 kilometers from Tomsk, the world's first Perpetuum Mobile with a capacity of 300 megawatts, a nuclear power plant with a closed fuel cycle and molten lead as a coolant, will start operating. The enterprise is called an experimental enterprise, since the supertechnologies for it have so far been calculated only on mathematical models. However, having tested them on an operating reactor, our nuclear scientists will receive a reference nuclear power plant of a new generation, breaking away from competitors from Toshiba, Areva and others for decades. The project, which has a self-explanatory name "Breakthrough", promises energy without danger and, most importantly, without uranium mining. Sailed

[Roma 1977]

How is it without uranium mining? At least something radioactive should be loaded into it?

[donavi49]

Uranus, but the meaning is there in a single center. The station will refit the fuel itself.
BREST-OD-300 with lead coolant and closing the nuclear fuel cycle station plant, which includes a reprocessing module (MP) for irradiated mixed uranium-plutonium (nitride) fuel and a fabrication / refabrication module (MFR) for manufacturing starting fuel elements from imported materials, and subsequently fuel elements from reprocessed irradiated nuclear fuel.

The on-site version of the fuel cycle organization (PNFC) allows to work out “short fuel cycle” technologies in the shortest possible time within one site. The on-site fuel cycle, consisting of two main modules - MPF and MP, has a common radioactive waste (RW) management system.



Well, for this type of reactors, you can refit fuel, which is now being disposed of or buried. This is a plus. Minus - it's all very expensive so far. Not because of a good life, the reactor at the BN (not ODEK / Brest) helped the Chinese to develop in exchange for investments and money.

[donavi49]

This is some kind of murzilka, but now let's get back to reality.

1) ODEC - scheduled for completion in 2029.
2) Development work began in 2011.
3) First commercial fast neutron station 2036 year.
4) The license was issued on February 10, 2021. So far nothing is being built on the ground.
5) Breakthrough includes other types of reactors - BN-1200, its construction has been postponed since 2014, now the start date is 2021.
6) The Chinese are helping with the topic. They built the CEFR. And now construction is underway (not planned) - CFR-600 (halves of BN-1200).

7) China will receive fuel from the joint venture
The Russian Federation in 2023 will begin deliveries of fuel to China for a fast neutron reactor
PJSC Mashinostroitelny Zavod (MSZ, Elektrostal, Moscow Region, part of TVEL JSC) has created a new production site for the fabrication of fuel for the Chinese fast reactor CFR-600. According to TVEL, the start of CFR-600 fuel supplies to China is scheduled for 2023.
The new production site was created to fulfill an export contract between TVEL and China's CNLY (part of CNNC Corporation) for the supply of fuel for the CFR-600 power unit under construction, including start-up loading and refueling for the first seven years.

[Cowbra]

Quote: donavi49

The Chinese help with the topic denyuzhkoy. They built the CEFR.

Quite the opposite - they help China with reactors, but not disinterestedly - they pay for it, since only low-power ones can build nuclear power plants themselves. In order not to look so offensive, they called this joint venture, in fact, the joint thing is that Russian specialists are building Russian reactors, looking after Chinese workers, and all this is happening in China. In Russia, Chinese participation is simply not required, so the cooperation ends at the border with China ...

[donavi49]

So I wrote - the Chinese help with the topic denyuzhka.
Without the Chinese order, everything would have gone even worse, including the production of fuel.

About:

can only be built by low-power

This is no longer true. They are currently building 14 + 2 export (Karachi - Pakistan) blocks.

Their main reactor is HPR1000 and its derivatives. It grew out of French reactors, a period when China seized the opportunity and firmly entered Areva, devouring technology decently.

The newest reactor in China is the Shidaowan under construction. This is the Chinese version of the hero of this article, but for 1400 MW (the Chinese have an original for 2 units of 1750 MW gross).

The only project where the Chinese are working closely with Rosatom (in addition to servicing the constructed units, exercising options under old contracts and purchasing fuel) is a fast neutron reactor. They built a considerable test reactor for denyuzhku. Now they are building a full-fledged 600 MW, and then by 28 (that is, before the planned BD-1200) they plan to introduce a full-fledged 1000-nickname of their own (of course, with the help of Rosatom, but already at the stage when they do it themselves) designs on the DB.

Plus the continuation of early contracts with Rosatom - 2 blocks at Syudapu (under construction), and 2 blocks at Tianwan (not yet under construction).

[Trapp1st]

Finland is preparing to launch the most powerful nuclear reactor in Europe

How dare you?

[Crimean partisan 1974]

How dare you?

.... sho stolen .... chinese toys ....

[hydrox]

This is the most powerful in the photo !?
Strongly looks like Greta ...

[ksv36]

"Olkiluoto" - sounds like about KOLOKILOWATTA.

[Reserve buildbat]

Rather, "Half a kilowatt"

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Trapp1st

Finland is preparing to launch the most powerful nuclear reactor in Europe

How dare you?

Nobel Prize urgently

[Trapp1st]

Nobel prize urgently laughing

Thank you, where to pick it up?

[rotfuks]

There are many oddities with nuclear power plants. Germany closes them en masse and switches to "green technologies". But so far, the "green technologies" do not give the proper return and the dumb are buying "atomic" electricity from the French, and the Czechs, in general, 40 km from the German border have built a nuclear power plant and the electricity is being driven straight to Germany. Apparently, when a nuclear power plant is 40 km from the border, the burghers are not afraid. The leader of the German "green" who achieved the closure of gas stations in Germany Joschka Fischer moved to live in the USA in sunny California, where it is not cold and you can live on "green technologies." This Joschka Fischer reminds me of Alexei Navalny in the green version. It turns out that Joschka Fischer is an agent of influence who closed the gas station and doomed Germany to consume liquefied gas. Apparently it was a global project and Nord Stream 2 is a real threat to this project.

[Cowbra]

Not, but to think that all these protests in Germany itself actually started with mass manifestations of Greenpeace, so to speak, mainly of the American, and certainly not the German office, which organization - purely by chance - did not run around the United States with a proposal to close the nuclear power plant Like in Germany, even though there are more of them there and not a single US nuclear power plant has been closed? What is a phisher and his hedgehogs? If the ears grow clearly from overseas, where the German industry is not needed at all as a competitor, and without energy there will be no industry?

[Roma 1977]

And there is. The German Greens are not very hiding agents of US influence.

[rotfuks]

Any "green" and environmentalists of all stripes, upon closer examination, turn out to be agents of foreign influence. The same "Greenpeace" regularly storms Russian oil platforms, but did not even open his mouth after the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Cost is also important. At a hydroelectric power station, a kilowatt-hour of electricity costs 10-25 kopecks, but the hydropower potential in the developed world is practically exhausted. At coal or fuel oil stations - 22-40 kopecks, but environmental problems arise. At industrial wind and solar power plants - 35-150 kopecks, a little expensive, and who guarantees constant wind and the absence of clouds. The prime cost of atomic energy is 20-50 kopecks, it is stable, creates much less environmental problems than burning oil and coal, its potential is limitless.

The Breakthrough project - the Brest-300 nuclear reactor under construction near Tomsk, will open a new page in the energy of the Earth

Project manager for the creation of BREST-OD-300 Andrey Nikolaev. Glory to the RUSSIAN ATOMERS!

[Kostadinov]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

How does the thermal power of the reactor differ from the electrical power?

The ratio of electrical to thermal power is the efficiency of generating electrical energy. VVER-1000 for example, thermal power 3200 megawatts, electrical 1000 megawatts. More than 2000 megawatts of fuel energy with a temperature of about 25-30 degrees are thrown into the river, sea and so on.

[yfast]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Brest-300

"The formation of long-lived isotopes of alpha-active lead, alpha- and beta-active bismuth with a half-life of more than 10 ** 6 years" is, of course, environmentally friendly.

[Bolt cutter]

it is, of course, environmentally friendly.

Alpha radiation will not pass through plain cardboard.

Beta-emitting tritium is used in such luminous key chains (about 15 lb / pc) - its radiation does not pass through a glass capsule in a plastic case. So it's relatively safe. By the way, from beta-active bismuth such light sources will be even better - tritium decays rather quickly.

[yfast]

When, in 50 thousand years, our descendants in animal skins open the burial ground, they will be such luminous trinkets to carry light to the masses.

[Bolt cutter]

in 50 thousand years our descendants in animal skins

They are filled with tritium (half-life 12 years) so it won't work .

[Crimean partisan 1974]

isotopes of alpha-active lead, alpha- and beta-active bismuth

.... why are you bothering your readers with nonsense if you even have no idea between the exposure of the background of atomic decay .... a question for you to fill in ..... what is the starting point for calculating the time spent by homosapiens in conditions of a likely increased background radiation

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Trapp1st

Nobel prize urgently laughing

Thank you, where to pick it up?

Contact the Norwegian Nobel Committee on December 10.

[Peaceful SEO]

Quote: Petrol cutter

Why did such a long-term construction come out?
This question is not covered in the article ...

In the 18th year of geoenergy there was an article about this long-term construction
http://geoenergetics.ru/2018/12/26/atomnaya-franciya-toroplivost-regulyatora-privodit-k-opozdaniyam/

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: yfast

When, in 50 thousand years, our descendants in animal skins open the burial ground, they will be such luminous trinkets to carry light to the masses.

Help
In Russia now there are about 18 thousand tons of radioactive waste requiring disposal or deep processing. For comparison, there are 110 thousand tons of such waste in the United States, and 345 thousand tons in total in the world.

[hydrox]

Our people said that we would have no problems with such a quantity.
And what will happen is not yet clear ...

[Reserve buildbat]

Russia has technologies for this very processing. And in the United States and "everything in the world" - no.

[Jager]

And not in France either, right?

[Reserve buildbat]

Do you want to say that France has technologies for creating and processing nuclear fuel and ammunition? Maybe they also make warheads?

[polpol]

This fuel for fast reactors for a closed nuclear fuel cycle (CLFC) and the United States have provided themselves with it for many, many years.

[dimz]

She is not up to it.

[Petr Vladimirovich]

18 is knocked, world fame, which is converted into money, and there are big ones, a good groom and beautiful children will follow ...
Long live! Greta !!!

[Avior]

is there a fourth power unit being built, or what?
somehow the structure is similar

And about

Or the Finnish nuclear power plant is far from the territory of Lithuania

yes, there is a little difference in distance.
From Lithuania, which goes to the Baltic Sea, to the Finnish nuclear power plant, which is located in the Gulf of Bothnia, the distance is 550 km, from the Belarusian nuclear power plant to Lithuania - 20 km.

[Wedmak]

The question remains how Lithuania will behave in this case

These are the right electrons, democratic, supporting LGBT, BLM, minorities ... who else they have ... Here. Probably, at the exit from the generator, they kneel right away ...

[race]

The third power unit, construction of which began in 2005, has a new generation EPR-1600 reactor, which is considered the most powerful reactor in operation in Europe.

Where is the reactor power? Where are the numbers? Words like: "The most powerful reactor operating in Europe" is just an unfounded statement.

[Ruslan Sledkov]

I remember this tender. Europe interrupted Russia's proposal for this nuclear power plant in 2005 and still has not built it. Ours offered a slightly less powerful nuclear power plant, but within a reasonable time

[Lister]

how Lithuania will behave in this case

Will purchase electricity at intra-European prices in Finland.

[Popandos]

.project of the Swedish concern ABB

I didn’t know that the Swedes own the technology of vigorous reactors, thanks. As they say, live and learn.
PS ABB is a Swiss company

[Vladimir Mskvchev]

Once upon a time, Lithuania (under the USSR) had and successfully operated the Ignalina nuclear power plant, and it was located very, very close to Belarus, its pipes could be seen from the territory of Belarus, it was not far from the border with Latvia - 10 km. And no one "puffed up" or "twitched". Under pressure from Europe, the nuclear power plant was closed, so Lithuania is indignant, everything is not so and not that way.

[Gunter prereen]

The Finns want to poison the entire territory of 1000 lakes. Why, there are only 1000 lakes, the whole of the Finnish and the Bothnian bays. Atu these Finns. Demand that the station be closed for caring for reindeer and bears and trout. And in general, the Finns and the peaceful atom, some kind of sur. Let them extract energy from Finnish toilets.

[Andre]

And where will the detention be put?