The Ukrainian question in history and modernity

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Hetmanate


The wars subsided, the Right Bank and Volhynia were harshly bent over by the Poles with unions and other serfdom, and the Cossack state, the Hetmanate, remained on the left bank. Although it did not remain Cossack for long. And again, it's not about ordinary Cossacks, it's about the foreman - the leadership, both military and civilian. It so happened that the people in Russia were calm, but the newly formed elite was badly formed. For the elders of the Hetmanate, Moscow, with its centralized power and severely limited rights of feudal lords, was a nightmare. And Rzeczpospolita is an ideal. There the king was elected, there was a "libertum veto" (this is when one vote "against" blocked any decision in the Diet), and each tycoon had the right to complete lawlessness, absolutely disregarding the laws. And it is clear that the foreman, feeling the strength and crushing the state lands for himself, did not want order, she wanted the very Rzeczpospolita. It's good there, the right to own serfs without restrictions, the right to spit on any laws, the right to sell food to Europe for gold, regardless of local needs ... As a result, the second aspect of the Ukrainian question was the unwillingness of the newly formed elites to live in Russia, in contrast to the population - that just under the "Poles" did not want to go categorically ...

For some reason, everyone remembers Mazepa as a certain standard of a traitor. But he was just a faithful follower of the general tendency - the foreman wanted to return to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the people interfered. Offhand - the hetmans Vygovsky, Yuri Khmelnitsky, Doroshenko, Bryukhovetsky tried to cross over ... Mazepa only continued the tradition, except that he went over to the side not of the Poles (Poland by that time had fallen into decay precisely because of its "freedoms"), but the Swedes, who were just fought with Russia. Moved for a reason, but in exchange for the right to rule the Hetmanate almost arbitrarily. It didn't work out, Mazepa fled with the Swedes and died. And Peter the Great sharply limited lovers of being magnates, taking control of power and introducing his garrisons into a number of cities. And then Catherine the Great simply liquidated the Hetmanate, for Little Russia by that time had ceased to be a frontier. The Zaporozhye Cossacks were moved to a new border, to the Kuban. She also annexed the Right Bank and mastered Novorossia, which had nothing to do with the Grand Duchy of Lithuania: before the arrival of the Russian troops there was a Wild Field, an empty land, where Tatars and Nogais occasionally roamed and the Cossacks went on raids.



The south of Russia was developing. Nobody mentioned any Ukrainians (almost no one: although the foreman received titles of nobility and serfs, she was nostalgic about Polish liberties, not even thinking - what, in fact, the Poles ended up with). Until the second half of the 1848th century, no one cared. From the second half - small groups appear, wanting the strange. But the attitude towards them is best illustrated by the reaction of the people - from 1914 to XNUMX, not a single national uprising. There were revolutionary actions, for "independence" - there were no, although the fans of this "independence" were generously financed by the Austrian Empire. Another mistake is that Galicia, lost at the beginning of the XIV century, turned out to be a part of Austria, not Russia, as a result of the divisions of the Commonwealth. The locals called themselves Rusyns, they had a strong Russian movement, supported by the Russian Empire. In response, the Austrians began to encourage the dreams of the separatists, already Little Russian, with all the ensuing consequences.

In the twentieth century


Nevertheless, by 1914, despite the permission of any agitation and propaganda of Ukrainians in the Russian Empire, it remained the lot of a small stratum of the intelligentsia, descendants of the clans of foremen and outright adventurers who dreamed of becoming the leaders of a new, far from poor country. And in 1917, their dreams came true. It is customary to blame everything on the Bolsheviks, but ... The Central Rada, which did not enjoy mass support, was recognized by the temporary. The temporary Ukrainization of the Black Sea Fleet and the Southwestern Front began. The Rada was also granted autonomy by the temporary. The Bolsheviks, on the contrary, first of all tried to slam the whole circus going on. The Brest-Litovsk Peace did not allow, but the government of the Ukrainian SSR (our answer to the UPR) was kept. In general, all sides of the Civil War had a peculiar attitude to the UPR. The Reds believed that the glad-hetmans-directories were usurpers, and that there was a legitimate Soviet Ukraine. Whites, in general, did not consider all these local separatists to be people. And the local population was much more willing to go to the atamans who fought against everyone, but for the land and against the surplus appropriation system, and not the Ukrainians. Only Germany and Austria needed Ukraine. And then - only as a cover for the annexation of fertile lands rich in metal and coal.

It all ended that way - those who like to divide and correct were crushed in between cases, and Little Russia was divided again: Volyn and Galicia went to Poland, the rest became Ukraine, but Soviet. Could it have come out differently? Probably not. There was a problem, it was being solved. Another question is that they did not solve it in the best way. And they began to build Ukrainian identity in earnest, forcing everyone to learn the Ukrainian language (the ancestors of today's Ukrainians did not speak "in language", except perhaps in the villages) and strenuously stuffing separatists with ideas. And the lands were cut not weakly. But this is understandable: the Hetmanate in historical borders were doomed to remain an agrarian hole gaping between industrial Novorossia and the RSFSR.

Comrade Stalin partly shot the lovers of Ukrainian identity and partly imprisoned them. And it was quiet again. This time until 1939, when Volyn and Galicia returned to the USSR. Volyn - okay, this is an Orthodox region that has lived in the Russian Empire for over a century and fanatically hates Poles. But Galicia with its separate language, Uniate religion, terrorism (Bandera and emerged as a terrorist organization against the Poles and based on German Nazism) was clearly superfluous. Taking an openly hostile region was at least stupid. But Joseph Stalin jumped on the rake of Nicholas II, who also tried to annex these lands. In the war, the Ukrainian SSR fought no worse and no better than others. Exceptions are Volyn and Galicia. In the first, the Bandera members slaughtered the Poles, in the second, they actively collaborated with the Nazis in order to slaughter, in general, everyone and build the land from ocean to ocean (at least to the Don).

True, after the end of the war, the Banderaites were transferred (the "bloody regime" of the USSR, instead of executions and eternal exile to relatives, as the French or the British would do, gave 10 years to those caught with weapons, and even announced amnesty time after time). Peace reigned again. The best indicator of the authority of Ukrainians is that as soon as parents were allowed to choose the language of instruction for their children, the number of Ukrainian schools dropped sharply. Even in the order of the Ukrainianized Volyn - every fourth school in the cities became Russian. The people for the most part did not want any land. However, as in all previous eras.

Yes, the people didn’t want to. But, as in the Hetmanate, the elite wanted. All these regional committee secretaries, republican ministers and other academicians who received titles for justifying a certain separate Ukraine, slept and saw themselves as ministers, deputies, oligarchs ... While the USSR was stable, they sat quietly. But this is for now. External adversaries also wanted to separate Ukraine. Their calculation was simple: without Ukraine, Russia can be rich and strong, but it cannot be self-sufficient and great.

Contemporaneity



The events of 1991 were logical: the control of the center weakened. And the regional elites rushed in all directions. And not because of patriotism, not because of Ukrainianship, but for pragmatic reasons - your state allows you to steal more. And, having separated, the rest had to be done simply for objective reasons - Russophobia is needed in order to explain to the amazed people why a brother living in Kursk is now a "damned Muscovite" and a foreigner. And why the factories stop one after the other, and some of the accounts in London have stepped over a billion dollars. And the generations who grew up on the myths of the Russophobic sense will look for a way out even further from Moscow. Which actually happened in 2004 and 2014. And the last time it all ended in a huge tragedy and a war that continues to this day. And from which Russia is trying to distance itself, which is deliberately doomed to failure.

The current Ukrainian question is at least a question of protecting our own people. And there are at least twenty million Russians there (those who consider themselves to be such). The issue of security, because the aggressive "Somalia" on the border is potentially dangerous. Especially considering that its population is being actively brainwashed and actively pumped with weapons. The issue of Crimea and Donbass, which have to be defended, the latter being as ineffective as possible with an endless, sluggish war. And the question of the economy: to lose these lands and resources forever is at least stupid. And there are no simple solutions for southern Russia, everything is too neglected and too much has been done wrong.


Source: inform-ua.info

And now there is a frontier again. And again the southern front against Russia. And no matter how much you close your eyes, there is no escape from this.
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  1. -5
    April 2 2021 04: 32
    The history of Ukrainians, first of all, speaks of the weakness of the Russian civilizational project, which is not capable of uniting on an equal basis and a single economic space based on the capitalistic model of the economy.
    The successes of the imperial project of Romanov russia is primarily feudal expansion. When the locals simply changed one suzerain for another. Due to military superiority and favorable external conditions. The Soviet project is primarily economic. Then ideological. Actually creating a common economic space. the entire population of the country into the general economic process. on equal and understandable terms.
    1. +6
      April 2 2021 05: 11
      Quote: apro
      The Soviet project is primarily economic, then ideological, by creating a real common economic space, thereby including the entire population of the country in the general economic process, on equal and understandable terms.

      Quite right, the Soviet project made it possible for all the republics to develop, and the modern Russian Federation simply has nothing to offer, neither from an ideological point of view, let alone from an economic point of view.
      1. +1
        April 2 2021 07: 17
        Well, firstly, the question of the future in Ukraine is decided not only by local oligarchs and Ukrainian nationalists, but also by Zionists under the leadership from Washington.

        For example, how the Ukrainian Zionist Igor Berkut, the leader of the Great Ukraine party, sees the question of the future in Ukraine.

        REFERENCE
        Igor Berkut - Ukrainian political and public figure, author of the idea of ​​transferring part of Ukraine to Jews.
        Igor Berkut - a veteran of the war in Afghanistan, intelligence officer, specialist in the fight against terrorism in the financial sector of the economy - talks about snipers on the Maidan, the role of the oligarchs and the Right Sector, the legitimacy of the military junta, the subversive activities of the SMRAD, about the events around Crimea and other issues ...
        Through a grant, received under the program for former career military personnel, in 1991-92 received a financial education in Russia and the USA. In July 1993 Igor Gekko (now Berkut), together with his American partner Gregory Knowle Studer registered JSC TEXAKABANK in Kazakhstan. Moreover, Studer owned almost 90% of the shares, and Gekko - 9,7%.

        Secondly , Hillary Clinton let slip during his presidential campaign on the plans of the US State Department for the future of Ukraine.
        She said that Ukraine, with its climate and fertile lands, is suitable for the resettlement of Americans for permanent residence.
        At the same time, there should not be more than 20 million people in Ukraine. Those "superfluous" Ukrainians who will not be destroyed by the civil war and who themselves do not emigrate from the country will simply be evicted to North Africa and the BW countries.

        The Voice of Zionism. Ukraine will have enough 5 million inhabitants to dispose of the rest. Igor Berkut.
        1. +4
          April 2 2021 07: 47
          The article is very good - historically and analytically very literate and the topic in it is extremely relevant!
          The reader has something to think about.
          1. +6
            April 2 2021 08: 50
            Gay Cossack, who is your ataman-Waltzman, Groisman, Zeltsman, Kapitelman?
            1. +7
              April 2 2021 09: 23
              Quote: Yuri Tverdokhleb
              Gay Cossack, who is your ataman-Waltzman, Groisman, Zeltsman, Kapitelman?

              That's right! The list goes on. Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Farion, Kolomoisky and many others.
              And among the rank and file in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, ethnic Russians account for 80%! 80% !!! And ordinary Jews are not there.
              И these ethnic Russians fools - marginalized with brainwashed Bandera - as part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they fight for SELF-DESTROY as "cannon fodder" for alien ethnic national interests absolutely alien to them and absolutely hostile to them against their own ethnic Russians in the DLNR.
              These deceived Ukrainian marginalized Russians have absolutely no future of their own ahead of them! Clinton has already said where the US State Department will send them later.

              This is what the enemy SOROSYATSKAYA propaganda does to ordinary people!
              1. -9
                April 2 2021 09: 53
                Quote: Tatiana
                Moreover, among the rank and file in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there are 80% ethnic Russians! 80% !!!

                Madame, and this speaks not of Sorovskaya, but of Russian ideology and propaganda, but of its successes on seemingly Russian territory.
                Quote: Tatiana
                These deceived Ukrainian marginalized Russians have absolutely no future of their own ahead of them!

                Do Russian Russians have a future ??
                1. +1
                  April 2 2021 10: 21
                  Quote: apro
                  Do the Russian-Russian have a future ??

                  Under Putin, more or less YES! Under Medvedev - no!
                  In any case, in Russia the Russians at least understand where the wind is blowing from.
                  1. -5
                    April 2 2021 10: 33
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    In any case, in Russia the Russians at least understand where the wind is blowing from.

                    This is exactly, gradually, little by little.
                  2. -5
                    April 2 2021 16: 38
                    What are the future under Putin? Unless it remains peripheral capitalism.
                    1. 0
                      April 2 2021 16: 48
                      Quote: Kronos
                      What are the future under Putin? Unless it remains peripheral capitalism.

                      And who and what do you propose? Descend from the clouds to the earth! Do you have any other reality - with such a statement? With whom and where then?
                      Be so kind as to let me know, otherwise I do not see this - with whom and where it is better - in our country at close range! Even with a magnifying glass, this is another best thing in modern Russia is not to be seen! No matter how it gets worse.
                      You are completely killing me with this comment of yours, like knives to my heart!
                      1. -2
                        April 2 2021 17: 01
                        Anyone who is better off stupidly does not go to power to come like Platoshkin for example. Therefore, the elections will not change anything.
                2. +1
                  April 2 2021 14: 38
                  Quote: apro
                  Do Russian Russians have a future ??

                  Do Jews have a future?
                  1. -4
                    April 2 2021 14: 46
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    Do Jews have a future?

                    today the Soviets are of little interest
                    1. +3
                      April 2 2021 14: 48
                      Soviet Jews? There are no Soviet Jews for a long time ... But Iran interests them, already running!
                      1. -7
                        April 2 2021 14: 50
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        Soviet Jews?

                        Soviet is not a nationality
                      2. +1
                        April 2 2021 19: 13
                        Quote: apro
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        Soviet Jews?

                        Soviet is not a nationality

                        But what about the community of Soviet people ... the expression I, Soviet man ... fellow The Soviet Jews are over ... what Now who, where, and fig knows who he considers himself .. hi
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        2. BAI
          +2
          April 2 2021 09: 14
          She said that Ukraine, with its climate and fertile lands, is suitable for the resettlement of Americans for permanent residence.

          This is an old idea. They tried to pull it off back in the 20s of the last century. Make Crimea "American California" by 1954.
          1. -2
            April 2 2021 09: 34
            Quote: BAI
            This is an old idea. They tried to pull it off back in the 20s of the last century. Make Crimea "American California" by 1954.

            Absolutely right! For this, the Bolsheviks received a huge loan from the Jewish bankers of the United States to support the Soviet regime and settle Jews in Crimea. However, the local non-Jewish population then categorically opposed this. But this very idea-goal remained with the Zionists for centuries - and not only remained, but ideologically and methodically expands in practice in its implementation.
        3. +1
          April 2 2021 09: 34
          She said that Ukraine, with its climate and fertile lands, is suitable for the resettlement of Americans for permanent residence.

          Is this an anecdote?
          1. +1
            April 2 2021 10: 02
            Quote: A vile skeptic
            She said that Ukraine, with its climate and fertile lands, is suitable for the resettlement of Americans for permanent residence.
            Is this an anecdote?

            Well no! This is pure TRUE! You simply did not follow Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign in due time! Then Trump won in the United States.

            She explained this by alleged concern for the Americans in connection with the possibility of the eruption of the Yellowstone volcano.
            However, in fact, remember and take into account Sakharov's project on the Soviet atomic retaliatory strike on the Yellowstone Volcano in response to the US nuclear attack on the USSR, which in this case will blow almost the entire US off the ground!

            So there is no "joke" about the existence of the intentions of the US State Department to resettle the Americans (establishment) to Ukraine in H. Clinton's statement, there is nothing even close! It's all true. The head of the US State Department, Hillary Clinton, in the heat of the election campaign, simply could not resist in a woman's way and let it slip.
            1. +1
              April 2 2021 10: 19
              No! This is pure TRUE!

              lol
              Are you talking about this?
              "An unexpected statement was made by the US presidential candidate from the Democrats, Hillary Clinton, in an interview with our correspondent, regarding the future of the United States," said Ros Childs, an anchor of the American edition of ABC News.

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        4. 0
          April 2 2021 11: 28
          Ukraine with its climate and fertile lands is suitable for the resettlement of Americans for permanent residence.
          The climate in the United States is much better (they are to the south), and there are more fertile lands.
          1. -1
            April 2 2021 15: 03
            what. in geography. did not receive higher than deuce ?? !!
            1. 0
              April 2 2021 15: 07
              What, they are not allowed in the USA tongue ? Tell us why you are not satisfied with the US climate and how is it better than the Ukrainian one? Does an avocado grow in Ukraine, for example? Or oranges? Or maybe the sugarcane is green there?
  2. +7
    April 2 2021 06: 31
    The current Ukrainian question is at least a question of protecting our own. And there are at least twenty million Russians
    .. The capitalists do not have their own, strangers. Relations are built simply, employer-employee, the less you pay, the better, and what nationality he is or what color of skin, do not care, the main thing is that he does not ask for much. Why bourgeois, 20 million mouths, strangers? He cannot create 25 million jobs at home, but it was announced all over the country.
  3. +4
    April 2 2021 07: 00
    The feeling that Kharaluzhny changed his pseudonym and decided to try himself in the "history" section ...
  4. +1
    April 2 2021 07: 59
    The Central Rada, which did not enjoy mass support, was recognized by the temporary.



    recognized as a PUBLIC organization, but not as an authorized governing body of the region.

    On August 4 (17), the Provisional Government approved the "Provisional instructions General Secretariat ", according to which the General Secretariat turned into marginal body of the Provisional Government.

    Moreover, this edge was only a small area around Kiev, and 70% of the future
    USSR
    -Kharkiv, Tauride, Yekaterinoslav and Kherson provinces, those. all New Russia and Slobozhanshchina recognized as "not associated with the Little Russian people") - purely RUSSIAN regions

    But in Kiev, foreign relations, military affairs, food, court cases, communication routes, post offices and telegraphs were withdrawn from the competence of the Sectariat. The number of secretaries general was reduced to seven and they were approved by the VP.

    In September, the Provisional Government generally decided to consider the Central Rada (public organization) itself and the General Secretariat, "Non-existent".

    As before the thief, the real power in Ukraine, according to the ukronationalists themselves (Savchenko, "12 wars for Ukraine"), belonged to the commissars. VP. Therefore, not recognizing the thief, CR strongly supported the overthrow of the interim, for the thief with her overthrow legal authorities and stupid decrees, untied the hands of the nationalists and opened the way to independence: on November 7, the UPR was proclaimed.

    So the author is wrong: it was the Bolsheviks who created a huge independent monster - from the Russian lands - within its modern borders, moreover, they also recognized the UPR as a state .

    And they even pointed out in an appeal to the CR that they did it in the same way as in relation to Finland, in contrast to the reactionary VP.

    They also created the Ukrainian SSR and recognized its independence. They also invited the main ukronationalists and leaders of the UPR Hrushevsky and Vinnichenko in the USSR to high positions - to turn Russians into non-Russians.

    Then, with all their might, they carried out violent Ukrainizations, teaching and proving in Ukraine that Ukraine and Ukrainians are not Russia or Russians. Have learned. Proved.
    1. BAI
      +8
      April 2 2021 09: 21
      In September, the Provisional Government generally decided to consider the Central Rada (public organization) and the General Secretariat itself "non-existent."

      Kerensky's interview, 1953.
      Question:
      - The interim government proclaimed the autonomy of Finland ...

      Kerensky's answer:
      - No! We have restored Finland's independence. It was annexed by Russia during the Napoleonic wars and entered the empire as an independent state, which entered into an alliance with the emperor personally. During the reign of Nicholas II, many of Finland's rights were abolished, which naturally caused discontent, even uprisings in Finland. By the way, liberal public opinion in Russia has never accepted the policy of forced Russification. The Provisional Government immediately returned all rights to Finland under one condition: the independence of Finland must be accepted by the Constituent Assembly. At the same time, we proclaimed the independence of Poland. A regime for granting independence for the Baltic countries, for Ukraine began to be developed ... In the Caucasus, in Turkmenistan, we began to invite representatives of the local population to govern the country. Even Lenin, when he returned to Russia, admitted that in mid-1917 Russia was the freest state in the world.

      - from the Russian lands - within its modern borders - they created exactly Bolsheviks Moreover, they also recognized the UPR as a state.

      And when did Kerensky and the VP become Bolsheviks? Bolsheviks only forcedly finished what was the beginning of the VP.
      1. -7
        April 2 2021 11: 14
        Quote: BAI
        Kerensky's interview, 1953

        Then an interview with Kerensky, 1970:
        (100th anniversary of the Swiss foreign tourist): Lenin's disease (Bolshevism), was due to syphilis, which disfigured his brain

        Believe it too? Authority is for you ...

        2. Provide the original source of the interview (not livejournal)

        3. Kerensky several times changed his points of view to the exact opposite and vice versa - see. 1930s, 40s, 50s.

        4. Don't give a damn about the fact that someone said something to someone in old age, after dozens of years, for the sake of conjuncture: only facts are important:

        5. no "union" never existed , as well as the "state" of Finland, which allegedly concluded it with the emperor: read the Treaty of Friedrichsgam between Russia and Sweden, according to which the usual PROVINCES Sweden ". There is no party to the agreement" Finland. "And then what Russia gave there, of course, and could take it.

        and when the Finns tried in 1917 only to declare the return of some rights, the VP canceled this and his troops occupied the parliament.

        5. The EaP recognized not the independence of Poland, but the RIGHT to the independence of the Polish people, but leaving the decision to the CONSTITUTIONAL MEETING.

        6. In Ukraine, the facts are given: it was about abolished CR in the LITTLE territory. And the leaders of the nationalists were invited to the capital, where, according to the statement of the Bolsheviks, they should have to arrest VP (they were afraid and did not go, waited for the thief)
        Quote: BAI
        Even Lenin, when he returned to Russia, admitted that in mid 1917 of the year Russia was the freest state in the world.

        why you fakes add: this was announced upon the return of the dwarf to Russia ( April 1917) in the famous April theses and not about any middle 1917 is out of the question.

        Who wrote this fake is simply illiterate.
        Quote: BAI
        And when did Kerensky and the VP become Bolsheviks?

        belay lol
        Facts to you, in response to the chatter: no huge territories of Ukraine that the Bolsheviks cut to it, no independent state recognized and created by them, did not smell under the VP. Even the UNR was created AFTER the thief

        ALL independence declared exclusively after the THIEF- based on her stupid decrees on peace and the Declaration of the Rights of Peoples and after the overthrow of the LEGAL government , which naturally gave legitimate reason all nationalists, bandits and interventionists to tear the country apart.
        1. +6
          April 2 2021 11: 54
          The EaP recognized not the independence of Poland, but the RIGHT to the independence of the Polish people

          Is there a difference? How will the Polish people exercise their very right to independence? Not creating your own independent state? There are other options?
          after the overthrow of the LEGAL government, which naturally gave a legitimate reason for all nationalists, bandits and interventionists to tear the country apart

          That is, after the February revolution? Legal power was moved at that time, right?
  5. +3
    April 2 2021 08: 26
    everyday nationalism was always strong (I studied at a military school during the years of stagnation with the strictest selection, and then I saw enough) ... now in Ukraine, over all these years, several generations have been brought up in a fierce hatred of Russia and everything Russian ... this whole national zoo fence with barbed wire with a voltage of 830 volts in standby mode ... people who have tasted (and some have eaten) the Ukrainian idea are not needed in Russia, even in the form of tourists (they carry the infection on their paws like flies) ... any question about citizenship and work permits in Russia should decide only after a thorough analysis (including activity in social networks) of the activities of ... ATO officers and government officials will forever be banned ... with a ban on crossing the border even in transit ...
    those Russians who WANT (not looking for economic benefits) to be Russian should fight for their state (like the LPR and DPR) and in this case can count on Russia's help
    1. -2
      April 2 2021 16: 42
      The best way to lose your last supporters.
  6. +4
    April 2 2021 08: 55
    A long time ago, various kinds of radio stations, starting with the Voice of America and ending with the Vatican, spoke not only the languages ​​of the republics of the USSR, but the languages ​​of the autonomous republics, infecting our people with nationalism. After the collapse of the Union, the occupation of the entire post-Soviet space with their ideology began. Now many we strive to revive the Russian world, but first of all we must free ourselves from the alien ideology imposed on us. But in this case, complete indecision.
    1. -7
      April 2 2021 09: 04
      Quote: nikvic46
      But first of all, we must free ourselves from the alien ideology imposed on us.

      Yes ... and that it was imposed on you. That you are constantly supporting this in the elections? And why is the ideology of capitalism not sweet to you? Which reveals the inner potential of the Russian. It makes it possible to become rich.
      1. -2
        April 2 2021 16: 43
        So it reveals that the number of the poor is only growing.
  7. BAI
    +4
    April 2 2021 09: 07
    Another mistake is that Galicia, lost at the beginning of the XIV century, turned out to be a part of Austria, not Russia, as a result of the divisions of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

    Exceptional delusion. Galicia could not be annexed in any case. In 1939, a catastrophic mistake was made.
    ON THE. Narochnitskaya - scientist, political scientist, doctor of historical sciences:
    "The inclusion of Galicia in the Ukrainian SSR in 1939 was a political mistake, since in the historical perspective it turned out to be a time bomb.
    This was foreseen by the great minds of Russia even on the eve of the First World War. Minister P.N. Durnovo, who prepared a note to the Tsar in 1914, analyzing possible geopolitical gains or losses, pointed out that "Galicia may be the only prize in this war," but warned: "only a madman can want to annex Galicia. Whoever joins Galicia will lose the empire ..."

    Austria-Hungary collapsed, the USSR is lost and Ukraine is already falling apart. The trend, however.
    1. 0
      April 3 2021 10: 48
      Thus, the expression ... to sew a coat to a button ... fits this situation.
  8. +1
    April 2 2021 09: 09
    Actually, such material is appropriate in the section: "Opinion", but not in the section: "History"
  9. +2
    April 2 2021 11: 20
    Kindergarten, pants with straps. This I flatter the author.
    One gets the impression that some authors and commentators are writing their opuses from a cave of the Stone Age, into which, due to some incomprehensible fluctuations of time, a working TV, and not switched off, got into.
    Our today's author, in some amazing way, learned to write, but there was not enough time to learn to read - "writing" takes everything. And really, why read something? There is a TV ...
    Here in the "History", as it were, it is customary to publish a list of references used in the work on the article. But I think it's time to modernize this tradition somewhat. Publish "List of watched TV programs" instead of the list of used literature.
    Dullness, dullness, dullness ... Deaf, hopeless, lazy and spiteful dullness, pouring out from all the televisions in the country, inevitably envelops us all, leaving room in our minds only for primitive instincts, the first of which confidently becomes herd.
    Gray by nature, this dullness, depending on the angle of the light incident on it, can take on black shades, maybe red, sometimes brown, green, and in some places it even shimmers with a rainbow spectrum, like an oil stain on a dirty puddle, but in reality it is gray, that is, none. None in every sense - not liquid, not solid, not cold, not hot - none.
    I can directly see how this vile gray liquid streams from TV screens, phones, computers, flooding apartments, houses, streets ...
    And now, I turned on the computer, went to the VO, and right in my face, as if from a bucket, they splashed this gray stupidity ... And twice.
    Good morning colleagues!
    1. +1
      April 2 2021 15: 35
      Ay Michael! hi not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
      1. +1
        April 2 2021 17: 16
        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
        not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!

        It ought to be in the brain, but where is it there ...
        Greetings, Edward. hi
        When are your articles expected?
      2. -1
        April 2 2021 18: 17
        The question disappeared by itself. smile
    2. +3
      April 2 2021 15: 53
      Good afternoon, Mikhail. smile
      I can directly see how this vile gray liquid streams from TV screens, phones, computers, flooding apartments, houses, streets ...


      There is nothing to add here, you can't say more precisely.

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        April 2 2021 17: 26
        Hello, Uncle Kostya. hi
        The picture is just wonderful. All that is missing is a computer in front of a man, and that the VO interface is on the screen. Then everything will be exactly. laughing
  10. +3
    April 2 2021 11: 23
    Taking an openly hostile region was at least stupid. But Joseph Stalin jumped on the rake of Nicholas II, who also tried to annex these lands.
    Yes, it was better to leave Hitler. smile Yes, the Banderaites were not swarming there. Do not forget that after the assassination of the main ideologist Konovalets, the united OUN split into OUN (b) - Bandera and OUN (m) - Melnikovites, and during the period when Western Ukraine became part of the USSR, between these groups there was a fierce struggle for power in the OUN, they had no time for that.
    loyally reacted to the establishment of Soviet power on the territory of the memory, the only thing that spoiled the accelerated collectivization.
    In the war, the Ukrainian SSR fought no worse and no better than others.
    What is it like? Will we privatize Victory for each separate republic? Following your logic, we can say about the Tajik SSR that it fought worse than the Ukrainian SSR. How would they exist on their own laughing
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      April 2 2021 15: 10
      this is a response to the statements of Ukrainian politicians that. allegedly "the Ukrainians have borne the whole brunt of the war on their shoulders."
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    April 2 2021 14: 51
    And the "Novgorod question"? And the "Pskov question"? And the "Tver question"?
    : If you walk along this bisector, then there is no united Russia and never has been. Only EP.
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    April 2 2021 23: 52
    In the collection of M.V. Frunze, Selected Works, Military Publishing, 1977, in the article "What the Experience of Summer Study Says About" ("The Army and the Revolution", No. 11-12 1923), Mikhail Vasilyevich's paradoxical judgments about the language in the army are given. So he (for territorial army units) notes the need to conduct combat and political work in the local language, in particular, for Ukrainian territorial units - in Ukrainian. At the same time, it is noted that the Red Army men themselves do not at all seek to Ukrainianize. Such are the interesting data.
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    April 3 2021 01: 39
    Concerning the Ukrainian language. I sometimes watch Olesya Medvedeva, there are programs with polls of people on the streets (Beloglazova), so in different cities people speak Ukrainian in different ways. Even I, not knowing the Ukrainian language, notice this, although I did not listen much. And many Ukrainians admit this themselves. So what is he real Ukrainian language? As they say in Lviv or as they say in Odessa?

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