Three Russian nuclear submarines surfaced simultaneously in the Arctic ice

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Three Russian nuclear submarines surfaced simultaneously in the Arctic ice

Three nuclear-powered submarines of the Russian Navy made their first ascent in the Arctic region as part of the Umka-2021 integrated Arctic expedition. This was reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin by the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian fleet Admiral Nikolai Evmenov.

Three nuclear-powered submarines ascended in a limited area with a radius of 300 meters, breaking through the XNUMX-meter ice. Before surfacing, one of the submarines conducted practical torpedo firing, after which the torpedo was raised to the surface through a specially made wormwood.



Also, as part of the Umka-2021 complex expedition, a pair of long-range MiG-31 interceptors made a flight with the passage of the North Pole point. During the mission, the MiG-31 was refueled in the air.


For the first time, according to a single concept and plan in the circumpolar regions, a complex of combat training, research and practical measures of various directions is being carried out

- said the commander-in-chief of the Navy, adding that the Navy is conducting an expedition together with the Russian Geographical Society.

The expedition involved more than 600 military and civilian personnel and about 200 models of weapons, military and special equipment.

Based on the results of the measures taken, the samples of weapons, military and special equipment participating in military-technical experiments generally confirmed their tactical and technical characteristics in conditions of high latitudes and low temperatures.

- Evmenov reported to the commander-in-chief.
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    1. +23
      27 March 2021 07: 29
      US Navy submarine Hartford is stuck in the ice of the Arctic during a tactical exercise that rehearsed scenarios for striking Russia. The submarine was unable to surface to carry out a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice. The incident took place last week, but it became known about it only now. A video with a stuck submarine, filmed by CNN, appeared on the web.
      1. -77
        27 March 2021 07: 39
        Quote: From Tomsk
        US Navy submarine Hartford is stuck in the ice of the Arctic during a tactical exercise that rehearsed scenarios for striking Russia. The submarine was unable to surface to carry out a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice. The incident took place last week, but it became known about it only now. A video with a stuck submarine, filmed by CNN, appeared on the web.

        Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew ..... negative
        1. +56
          27 March 2021 07: 45
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Staged video of the show ...

          Precisely, in the background the model of the Crimean bridge sticks out.
          1. +21
            27 March 2021 10: 09
            Quote: Cowbra
            Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
            Staged video of the show ...

            Precisely, in the background the model of the Crimean bridge sticks out.

            Which, as proven by the major unknown Ukrainian scientists, the Russians could not build No.
            1. +3
              27 March 2021 21: 41
              Gorgeous video. Impressive. good smile
              1. -1
                April 15 2021 15: 10
                If this was done to impress Mashkov, I do not argue.
                1. -1
                  April 15 2021 15: 19
                  VERY sorry that smart and kind people in the world much less than fools, impudent and impudent. But alas! ... request
        2. +41
          27 March 2021 07: 46
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew .....

          How horrible, do you dare to say aloud the assumption that CNN is filming staged videos? wassat
          1. -37
            27 March 2021 08: 09
            Quote: user1212
            Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
            Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew .....

            How horrible, do you dare to say aloud the assumption that CNN is filming staged videos? wassat

            CNN-forced me to search for someone else's letters on the keyboard, filmed a video ?! It can't be, they don't have icebreakers for those seas ... hi
            1. +2
              27 March 2021 09: 21
              And why not admit that it was a SUPER drone with a combat load of 300 tons, which was specially lifted from Okinawa.
              Say thank you that he did not tow any of our boats to Greenland for disassembly for rare earths. laughing
              1. -26
                27 March 2021 09: 43
                Quote: hydrox
                And why not admit that it was a SUPER drone with a combat load of 300 tons, which was specially lifted from Okinawa.
                Say thank you that he did not tow any of our boats to Greenland for disassembly for rare earths. laughing

                I agree with you ...... And all sorts of Krasuhi and other REBs are just for show-off ....... SOLDIER WITH AN AUTOMATOR, that's all you need ... Krasuha without electricity, a lot of scrap metal ... .. laughing good drinks
                1. +4
                  27 March 2021 21: 34
                  The hohlodupe award is deserved! Catch!
        3. bar
          +18
          27 March 2021 08: 11
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed ....

          The fishermen were filming. You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...
          1. +9
            27 March 2021 08: 19
            Quote: bar
            The fishermen were filming. You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...

            1. +18
              27 March 2021 09: 08
              Quote: Insurgent
              You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...

              ========
              Especially if you are sitting on the lake ... belay Exactly - you need to stop drinking ... wassat fool
              laughing
              1. +3
                27 March 2021 09: 30
                And if this happens after a bath in the pool ... fool
                1. +3
                  27 March 2021 10: 32
                  I was just after the bath yesterday belay is it really a dream today)
              2. +2
                27 March 2021 20: 13
                Especially if you are sitting on the lake ...


                -There's no fish here!
                -And here too!
                -And who says something?
                -Someone! Stadium director! (with)
            2. +1
              27 March 2021 10: 53
              Hmmm ...! Wow navaga!
              1. -13
                27 March 2021 12: 12
                Quote: Nikolaevich I
                Hmmm ...! Wow navaga!

                Commercial and DELICIOUS navaga fish ... Muscovites are asking for tuna ... We do not catch tuna, it does not live in cold water ...
                1. +2
                  27 March 2021 14: 26
                  "Muscovites are asking for tuna"
                  No, well, personally, I'm for hake, navaga, haddock, cod and TD., And that. Here the ice has risen in price helluva lot. And I don’t know tuna, I wouldn’t go too far.
                2. +2
                  27 March 2021 15: 36
                  You catch six-oared galleys in your underpants, not fish.
                3. +1
                  27 March 2021 21: 38
                  On you, otherwise you will die and you will stink!
                4. 0
                  29 March 2021 03: 26
                  You don’t understand anything about fish if you think navaga is tasty. Cod fish!)))
                  1. -1
                    29 March 2021 03: 39
                    Quote: Maximilian37
                    Cod fish!)))

                    Uh-huh ... In the sixties they muttered over the radio in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk: "No fish, only cod!" The Japs laughed at us.
          2. -19
            27 March 2021 08: 52
            Quote: bar
            Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
            Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed ....

            The fishermen were filming. You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...

            laughing good drinks
          3. +3
            27 March 2021 20: 02
            You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...


            We went on the surface, Kildin on the horizon. From the bridge they ask for a "matyugalnik", stop the turbine. I went up to look. I look at a motor boat of the "cauldron" type. And nobody is visible. And decently to the coast. Not a lake after all. Asked: "Do you need help?" You never know what .... It blew away, it became bad, gasoline ran out .... Here a "miracle" rises from the bottom. I probably slept (!!!). Looks at us. The eyes are large. PL is healthy, black, yelling something from the top. Yes, and about 50 meters before it was. He waved his hand, the engine jerked to the shore. He remembered us for the rest of his life.
        4. +9
          27 March 2021 08: 38
          Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew .....

          So this is not the first time the US submarine freezes)))
        5. +10
          27 March 2021 09: 06
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew .....

          ======
          Aha! Another "fighter of the information front" drew ... bully
        6. +7
          27 March 2021 10: 39
          What village did you come from ???
          do you really think that Russian scientists have enough intelligence, money and funds are enough to build nuclear submarines, and they could not load several UAVs into the submarine. Or do you think that only a UAV that is the size of an airplane can shoot ??? )))))
          1. 0
            April 15 2021 15: 14
            There is enough money, but there is no mind
        7. +3
          27 March 2021 20: 10
          Staged video show


          Well, of course, we were preparing. What do you want? You sit by the hole, catch fish, take selfies with trophies and suddenly .... Mom dear !!! So?

          And the area was chosen, and a convenient place was chosen. They dropped off anyone in advance. The cost of a mistake is simply great. They insured themselves naturally.

          Regarding the setting, it is clear that everything is organized and marked. How else? BREAKER and your head on the ice?

          Pay attention to the first seconds of the video - you can see some kind of pole. A few meters from the wheelhouse. Maybe the lighthouse was lowered into the hole, or something. It is not necessary to make jokes. There, the guys with the landmarks got wet.
      2. +2
        27 March 2021 08: 22
        Quote: From Tomsk
        The submarine could not surface for a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice

        So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?
        1. +10
          27 March 2021 08: 42
          Of course, there are two options, either to fire a torpedo and float into the hole, or float quietly, but then manually clean the covers of the mines)))
        2. -9
          27 March 2021 09: 33
          Of course, they are capable: they have a launch shaft right through the wheelhouse ... good
          1. -2
            28 March 2021 17: 07
            Ah, yes, admirals in boots, minus on the fact of their appearance and directly on Zadornov: "Well, stupid !!"
            1. -1
              29 March 2021 07: 39
              True, I do not expect anything else from the liberal trash :: this is their shiver before mobilization :: they know, the creatures that are on the front line, and just in the barracks, they can do a kirdyk with pleasure, as representatives of the 5th column.
        3. +5
          27 March 2021 09: 48
          Quote: svp67
          So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?

          And how to open the covers of the mines? So it turns out - what is the practical use for such a resurrection? Only for a communication session and a smoke in the cockpit.
          1. +10
            27 March 2021 10: 17
            You take a chainsaw, a crowbar and clean it up, this is a common practice, even on sharks sometimes ice remained on the covers of the mines.
            1. 0
              27 March 2021 14: 12
              Quote: loki565
              You take a chainsaw, a crowbar and clean it up, this is a common practice, even on sharks sometimes ice remained on the covers of the mines.

              So after all, even the rocket deck above the water (ice) did not appear. Before taking the crowbars, you will have to put on diving suits.
              1. +3
                27 March 2021 17: 28
                In these latitudes, the "Shark" was the owner. With its mass and buoyancy, it could surface almost everywhere.
                1. 0
                  27 March 2021 22: 10
                  Again the video was changed. I was posting it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUShFE79_iI
          2. -3
            27 March 2021 11: 27
            Quote: Gritsa
            How to open the covers of the mines?

            Announce an ice-picking cleanup
            1. -2
              27 March 2021 14: 14
              Quote: svp67
              Announce an ice-picking cleanup

              Such a subbotnik is most often carried out by all sailors and part of midshipmen who are not on duty. But for this it is necessary that the boat still surfaced, and did not show part of the deckhouse.
        4. -9
          27 March 2021 10: 41
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: From Tomsk
          The submarine could not surface for a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice

          So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?

          It all depends on the task at hand: if an ICBM were fired, then there was no need to surface, but with cruise missiles. No. At this point it is clear that such a task cannot exist in those latitudes.
        5. +3
          27 March 2021 11: 35
          Quote: svp67
          So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?

          This question interests me very much, because in my opinion, it would be better for one boat to surface and make at least one launch - the effect on the whole world would be awesome.
          I don’t quite understand why it was necessary to risk and force three submarines to surface at once on such a small area, although as I understand it, this performance resembles the flight show of our Swifts, but in an underwater version. Of course, the skill of submariners is obvious, which means they can be entrusted with hidden patrols under the ice off the coast of Canada. So the submarine fleet should become the backbone of our Navy - only Timokhin and other alternatives, who are forty years behind, may not understand this.
        6. 0
          29 March 2021 20: 04
          Quote: svp67
          So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?

          So the same question haunts me. In theory, the rockets come out of the hull, which remained under the huge chunks of ice. For start-up, the doors of the mine must open. It is unlikely that this ice will allow it. If they open up, then a heap of fragments of this ice will be poured into the mine. Also, for sure, a safety violation.
          So, questions remain.
        7. 0
          April 15 2021 15: 23
          Two hours to clean the rocket deck by hand. and then shoot across Kamchatka. In wartime, no one will give such an opportunity - drown. Search for wormwood and shoot from there, or create wormwood by firing several torpedoes
      3. -5
        27 March 2021 08: 40
        ... only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice.

        Sorry, have you watched the video for the article?
      4. -6
        27 March 2021 13: 05
        Quote: From Tomsk
        US Navy submarine Hartford is stuck in the ice of the Arctic during a tactical exercise that rehearsed scenarios for striking Russia. The submarine was unable to surface to carry out a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice. The incident took place last week, but it became known about it only now. A video with a stuck submarine, filmed by CNN, appeared on the web.

        tell me, YOU experience some special sensations when SO wassat enchantingly LACK SHASH lol and CARRY ACHINA? fool
        1. -1
          27 March 2021 18: 45
          Quote: 2534M
          Quote: From Tomsk
          US Navy submarine Hartford is stuck in the ice of the Arctic during a tactical exercise that rehearsed scenarios for striking Russia. The submarine was unable to surface to carry out a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice. The incident took place last week, but it became known about it only now. A video with a stuck submarine, filmed by CNN, appeared on the web.

          tell me, YOU experience some special sensations when SO wassat enchantingly LACK SHASH lol and CARRY ACHINA? fool


          By the way, the person simply quoted the messages of our urya of media resources, and other individuals who, looking at similar teachings of the United States and Britain, wrote exactly this.

          He didn’t come up with it. it was invented by our so-called patriotic media ...
    2. +21
      27 March 2021 07: 32
      An impressive sight, especially the fact that the boats were close to each other. Well done submariners!
      1. +4
        27 March 2021 07: 56
        The sight is certainly impressive. But from a tactical point of view, finding the boats so close does not seem correct. So, theoretically, all three can be covered with a warhead at once.
        1. KCA
          +15
          27 March 2021 08: 09
          We surfaced, made sure that they were found and went out on the ice to smoke, stretch, wait until all three were covered with one warhead, so what? Or they surfaced, fired the prescribed number of missiles and went under the ice, I think this will be the case in a combat situation, but what they surfaced together just shows the class of crews and the coherence of actions.
          1. -7
            27 March 2021 08: 42
            It will be more difficult with missiles, there are only wheelhouses on the surface, there seem to be no missiles there.
            1. -5
              27 March 2021 09: 39
              Here is another interesting thing: well, the Yankes will emerge, they will not have time to be chipped and drink tea, as these MiGs will snatch up and butcher a turtle like a boh !!! laughing laughing laughing Yes
          2. 0
            27 March 2021 09: 51
            Quote: KCA
            Or they surfaced, fired the prescribed number of missiles and went under the ice, I think this will be the case in a combat situation

            How did they release them? How were the shaft covers lifted?
        2. +29
          27 March 2021 08: 12
          I think there is no need to look for tactics or strategy here. Here is a clear demonstration of the possibilities. Well, a beautiful picture. Why not, actually?
          1. -3
            27 March 2021 19: 30
            And what new were shown to us?
        3. +16
          27 March 2021 08: 25
          It is rather a demonstration of the level of interaction and capabilities of our submarines. In a combat situation, most likely no one will perform such "acrobatic sketches".
          1. -11
            27 March 2021 13: 07
            Quote: Captive
            This is more of a demonstration of the level of interaction.

            please tell me how such a SHOW (both ours and the Anglo-Saxon) affects the "level of interaction" lol
            1. +12
              27 March 2021 13: 20
              Try to bring three submarines to the given points, synchronize their actions and that's it. The sailors have no questions. A lot is required for such a "show". It's not for you to move your backs on the dance floor in sync. Here you have to work and think.
        4. +22
          27 March 2021 08: 40
          Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
          The sight is certainly impressive, but from a tactical point of view, finding the boats so close does not seem correct.

          It just showed who is the boss in the north.
          1. -16
            27 March 2021 13: 09
            Quote: figvam
            It just showed who is the boss in the north.

            who is the owner in the north show:
            - the number of such exercises
            - from what year are they held
            - the number and DIFFICULTY of torpedo firing


            in this particular case, we have only "PUK IN WATER" (because 1 (ONE) torpedo is not even funny - this is NEGLIGENCE and a FIGURE LEAF)
            a bit of reality
            https://topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
            1. +1
              27 March 2021 15: 03
              How did you get carried away, what happened? Did you expect such skill?
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        5. +1
          27 March 2021 09: 15
          Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
          The sight is certainly impressive. But from a tactical point of view, finding the boats so close does not seem correct. So, theoretically, all three can be covered with a warhead at once.

          =======
          And you Indeed do you think that in wartime, someone will be engaged in such "tricks" ?? belay fool
        6. -1
          27 March 2021 21: 45
          PaschEnko! You are more careful with your "head" - "So, theoretically, all three can be covered with a warhead at once." The main thing is to wash off
          Xia!
      2. -11
        27 March 2021 08: 38
        To me, an amateur, it is not clear what the practical significance of the maneuver with a simultaneous ascent is. If we are talking about the marine analogue of the tank biathlon, then it is understandable. Show a spectacular trick to the "most respectable public"? It is clear that the boat commanders showed excellent coordination - yes. But will this still be used in a real war?
        1. +6
          27 March 2021 09: 23
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          But will this still be used in a real war?

          Well, then why do they hold parades? In a real war, after all, a variety of equipment on Red Square will not be assembled.
          1. +2
            27 March 2021 10: 38
            The contender was actually ...
        2. -1
          27 March 2021 10: 43
          Here you understand what the point is, if there was no video, then our Western "friends" would say that Russia is a gas station country, it does not have an effective fleet.
          And if they showed one boat, they would say that there can be only one, etc.
          1. -15
            27 March 2021 13: 12
            Quote: japan-k
            And if they showed one boat, they would say that there can be only one, etc.

            You did not understand
            The FACT is that after ... years HORIZED to carry out something similar to the ICEX of the Anglo-Saxons, we STURTED ON 1 (ONE) torpedo shot
            1. +2
              27 March 2021 15: 04
              What is it that punishes you so? And who will collect the torpedoes under the ice? Do you think this is an easy task?
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        3. -4
          27 March 2021 12: 16
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          But will this still be used in a real war?

          and smoke in the fresh air in a real war? It is clear that if they shoot back, it is no longer necessary to break the ice, there will be holes for mbr and so on, because ours shoot from under the ice.
          1. mvg
            +4
            28 March 2021 00: 45
            for ours are shooting from under the ice.

            If only from a pistol to the temple ... Well, you can't be like that in life, to put it mildly ... narrow-minded. wassat
            1. -2
              28 March 2021 01: 16
              Quote: mvg
              for ours are shooting from under the ice.

              If only from a pistol to the temple ... Well, you can't be like that in life, to put it mildly ... narrow-minded. wassat

              for the distant there is a lower quote, if I still throw in a little
        4. -6
          27 March 2021 13: 10
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          To me, an amateur, it is not clear what the practical meaning of the maneuver with a simultaneous ascent is. If we are talking about the marine analogue of the tank biathlon, then it is understandable.

          Yes it is
          and it is not so much we who are doing this (here we are catching up) but the Anglo-Saxons
      3. -35
        27 March 2021 08: 51
        Quote: 501Legion
        An impressive sight, especially the fact that the boats were close to each other. Well done submariners!

        That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.
        1. +8
          27 March 2021 09: 49

          Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
          Today, 08: 51
          NEW

          -9
          Quote: 501Legion
          An impressive sight, especially the fact that the boats were close to each other. Well done submariners!

          That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.
          This is not for you to bomb Syria from Lebanon, by jackals. angry fool laughing
          1. -22
            27 March 2021 09: 53
            Quote: aszzz888
            This is not for you to bomb Syria from Lebanon, by jackals.

            For the first time in the world? lol
            Quote: aszzz888
            For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!! good drinks soldier

            Hurrah! tongue
            1. +14
              27 March 2021 09: 57
              professor (Sokolov Oleg)
              Today, 09:53 .....
              These are the ones who could not get out without a sawmill and were saved by the whole world? tongue laughing lol pi.si. and at the same time the ice thickness is comparable ... tongue
              1. -23
                27 March 2021 10: 08
                Quote: aszzz888
                professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                Today, 09:53 .....
                These are the ones who could not get out without a sawmill and were saved by the whole world? tongue laughing lol pi.si. and at the same time the ice thickness is comparable ... tongue

                Not "Hurray" anymore? Not a "first in the world"? laughing
                The funny thing is that the bourgeois also have a British boat that sailed into the trio. Count up, international cooperation. lol


                PS
                No chainsaw found? Druzhba ceased to be produced, and import substitution did not work? crying
                1. -1
                  27 March 2021 10: 11
                  professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                  Today, 09: 53

                  The US submarine froze into the ice, working out ... - Gazeta.Ruwww.gazeta.ru ›army› 2018/03/22
                  US submarine froze into the ice, practicing "strikes on Russia" American submarines froze into the Arctic ice ... ura.news ›news

                  wassat tongue tongue
                  1. -14
                    27 March 2021 10: 13

                    Where are they frozen? Don't fantasize. The ICEX 2018 exercise took place on a regular basis. fellow
                    1. +2
                      27 March 2021 10: 14
                      read not only Jewish media pi.si.
                      The US submarine froze into the ice, working out ... - Эхо Москвы
                      even the liberoid media did not lie tongue
                      1. -11
                        27 March 2021 10: 19
                        Quote: aszzz888
                        read not only Jewish media

                        You sat in a puddle. Uryayayayayayayayayayaya yelled as much as possible, and now merge like a child. Once again, the ICEX 2018 exercise took place on a regular basis. Accept reality and live with it further.
                        https://portal.ct.gov/OMA/In-the-News/2018-News/Navy-Kicks-Off-ICEX-2018

                        https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/1464840/arctic-deployed-navy-submarines-participate-in-ice-exercise-2018/

                        https://www.dvidshub.net/feature/ICEX2018

                        1. 0
                          27 March 2021 10: 22

                          Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                          Once again, the ICEX 2018 exercise took place on a regular basis.
                          A US submarine froze into the ice while practicing "strikes ... www.rosbalt.ru› world ›2018/03/22
                          22 Mar 2018 - US submarine Hartford is stuck in the Arctic ice during a training exercise, including for the confrontation with ...

                          The US submarine froze into the ice, working out ... - Gazeta.Ruwww.gazeta.ru ›army› 2018/03/22
                          The US submarine froze into the ice, practicing "strikes against Russia" ... The American submarine Hartford in the ice of the Arctic.
                          Mar 22 2018 year

                          American submarines are frozen in the Arctic ice ... ura.news ›news
                          22 Mar 2018 - Two US Navy nuclear-powered submarines, Hartford and Connecticut, are stuck in the Arctic ice during the ICEX 2018 exercise ...
                          do you have more facts, or enough? tongue fool tongue
                        2. -10
                          27 March 2021 10: 24
                          Quote: aszzz888
                          do you have more facts, or enough?

                          Facts? You haven't brought a single one yet. Come on at least one wink
                        3. +2
                          27 March 2021 10: 27
                          professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                          Today, 10: 24
                          now it's not for me. Or are dispensaries expensive in Israel for such? Not enough shekels from the training manuals?
                        4. -12
                          27 March 2021 10: 28
                          Quote: aszzz888
                          professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                          Today, 10: 24
                          now it's not for me. Or are the Ispansers expensive in Israel for such? Not enough shekels from the training manuals?

                          You do not merge, but give the facts. I give you the facts (https://www.dvidshub.net/feature/ICEX2018), and you ... wassat
                        5. +1
                          27 March 2021 10: 32
                          professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                          Today, 10: 28 ...
                          you haven’t presented me with one fact yet. wassat except for cribs and extracts from the house book tongue
                        6. -13
                          27 March 2021 10: 41
                          Quote: aszzz888
                          professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                          Today, 10: 28 ...
                          you haven’t presented me with one fact yet. wassat except for cribs and extracts from the house book tongue

                          Do not merge, but come on data confirming your fantasies.
                          YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!! wassat
                        7. +2
                          27 March 2021 11: 03

                          Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                          Today, 10: 41

                          -1
                          Quote: aszzz888
                          professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                          Today, 10: 28 ...
                          you haven’t presented me with one fact yet. wassat except for cribs and extracts from the house book tongue

                          Don't merge come on facts confirming your fantasies.
                          YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!! wassat
                          "Boring girls!" tongue pi. si.
                          I understand ... your unhappy life in the USSR, free education (perhaps even eight years) flight to Israel, where payment is only from the manuals ... poke your nose (just not hard! laughing , and although what a difference!) you look and it will come. Yes, there is a Russian proverb about God's dew ... etc. So this is about you, my young friend. Adieu! tongue
                        8. -13
                          27 March 2021 11: 09
                          Quote: aszzz888

                          Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                          Today, 10: 41

                          -1
                          Quote: aszzz888
                          professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                          Today, 10: 28 ...
                          you haven’t presented me with one fact yet. wassat except for cribs and extracts from the house book tongue

                          Don't merge come on facts confirming your fantasies.
                          YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!! wassat
                          "Boring girls!" tongue pi. si.
                          I understand ... your unhappy life in the USSR, free education (perhaps even eight years) flight to Israel, where payment is only from the manuals ... poke your nose (just not hard! laughing , and although what a difference!) you look and it will come. Yes, there is a Russian proverb about God's dew ... etc. So this is about you, my young friend. Adieu! tongue

                          The drain is counted. hi
                          Uryayayayayayaya. For the first time in the world. wassat
                        9. 0
                          27 March 2021 11: 14
                          professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                          Today, 11: 09
                          look at your leisure in the ward -
                          «Chill out Vasya!"- Russian comedy film
                        10. -10
                          27 March 2021 11: 18
                          Quote: aszzz888
                          look at your leisure in the ward -

                          Quote: aszzz888
                          Hurrah!

                          laughing
                        11. -8
                          27 March 2021 13: 15
                          Quote: aszzz888
                          you haven’t presented me with more than one fact

                          Have an optometrist for a long time?
                          YOUR opponent said everything is clear to YOU
                        12. +7
                          27 March 2021 10: 30
                          Quote: professor
                          Quote: aszzz888
                          do you have more facts, or enough?

                          Facts? You haven't brought a single one yet. Come on at least one wink

                          Well, not messages your own mediaand a bedtime story winked
                          ... Since March 7 this year. in the Arctic, the joint exercises "ICEX 2018" are held by the navies of the United States, Great Britain, Canada and Norway. ...
                          ... At first, the guidance system malfunctioned, and the preparation for the launch of the missiles was considerably delayed. And then the communication and navigation systems were completely frozen at the same time.
                          What does a formidable submarine with missiles on board in the Arctic ice turn into without these important elements? That's right, in a tin can, which is tightly frozen in the Arctic Ocean.
                          It was not without the help of a helicopter and qualified personnel from the outside.
                          This is not the first case for the US Navy, which puts them in an even more uncomfortable position.
                          US servicemen defrost their submarine fleet in 2011 and 2015. Then the newest boat "Seawolf" fell into the "ice trap".
                        13. -13
                          27 March 2021 10: 40
                          Quote: Terenin
                          Well, not your own media reports, but a bedtime story

                          Our (my) media?
                          The exercises took place on a regular basis:
                          https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/1464840/arctic-deployed-navy-submarines-participate-in-ice-exercise-2018/

                          https://portal.ct.gov/OMA/In-the-News/2018-News/Navy-Kicks-Off-ICEX-2018

                          By the way, an interesting fact is that the bourgeois have been carrying out under-ice Arctic transitions since the 1940s, when the American platform Boarfish on August 1, 1947 passed with an ice laboratory under the ice into the Chukchi Sea.
                          In 1958, the nuclear submarine Nautilus first crossed the Arctic Ocean under the pack ice. The first surfacing in the Arctic was made by the Skate submarine in March 1959. The Sargo submarine was the first submarine to cross the Bering Strait in winter in 1960.
                        14. +3
                          27 March 2021 12: 09
                          Quote: professor
                          The exercises took place on a regular basis:

                          Quote: Terenin
                          It was not without the help of a helicopter and qualified personnel from the outside.

                          American boats have an ice pick team
                        15. -9
                          27 March 2021 13: 01
                          Quote: poquello
                          Quote: professor
                          The exercises took place on a regular basis:

                          Quote: Terenin
                          It was not without the help of a helicopter and qualified personnel from the outside.

                          American boats have an ice pick team

                          Look at past ascents in the wormwood. There are always crowbars and chainsaws at the team. They can afford it.

                          Here are the ICEX 2020 teachings


                          Compilation
                        16. +2
                          27 March 2021 13: 24
                          Quote: professor
                          There are always crowbars and chainsaws at the team. They can afford it.

                          more precisely, without them, they cannot, as well as shoot from under the ice
                        17. -10
                          27 March 2021 14: 10
                          Quote: poquello
                          Quote: professor
                          There are always crowbars and chainsaws at the team. They can afford it.

                          more precisely, without them, they cannot, as well as shoot from under the ice

                          Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?

                          Quote: poquello
                          Quote: professor
                          By the way, an interesting fact is that the bourgeois have been carrying out under-ice Arctic transitions since the 1940s.

                          and there the reason seemed to be different, ours with the air had a strong lag

                          Not. Ice laboratory.
                        18. +2
                          27 March 2021 14: 23
                          Quote: professor
                          Quote: poquello
                          Quote: professor
                          There are always crowbars and chainsaws at the team. They can afford it.

                          more precisely, without them, they cannot, as well as shoot from under the ice

                          Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?

                          without surfacing at all, the United States does not know how
                          Quote: professor

                          Quote: poquello
                          Quote: professor
                          By the way, an interesting fact is that the bourgeois have been carrying out under-ice Arctic transitions since the 1940s.

                          and there the reason seemed to be different, ours with the air had a strong lag

                          Not. Ice laboratory.

                          well, figs knows, I'm reluctant to dig now, our pilots had a very small move without surfacing, so they scored before the time
                        19. -5
                          27 March 2021 15: 02
                          Quote: poquello
                          without surfacing at all, the United States does not know how

                          Nobody can do that.
                        20. +5
                          27 March 2021 15: 15
                          Quote: professor
                          Quote: poquello
                          without surfacing at all, the United States does not know how

                          Nobody can do that.

                          ) Duc if not the United States then this is not))))))))))))))))))))))
                          During the tests, they confirmed their ability to pierce an ice-hole in any hummocks in the right place. These special munitions are necessary to ensure the launch of strategic missiles from an underwater state, as well as the rise to the surface of pop-up rescue capsules, with the help of which crews are evacuated in case of an accident.
                        21. +2
                          28 March 2021 13: 28
                          Quote: professor
                          Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?


                          It is possible, if skillfully, based on technology.

                          https://topwar.ru/167070-rossijskie-apl-poluchat-specialnye-rakety-dlja-vzloma-lda-v-arktike.html
                        22. -3
                          28 March 2021 17: 21
                          Quote: Insurgent
                          Quote: professor
                          Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?


                          It is possible, if skillfully, based on technology.

                          https://topwar.ru/167070-rossijskie-apl-poluchat-specialnye-rakety-dlja-vzloma-lda-v-arktike.html

                          Russian nuclear submarines get special rockets for breaking ice in the Arctic
                          January 24 2020

                          Received?
                        23. 0
                          29 March 2021 07: 46
                          Quote: professor
                          Received?

                          It is clear what kind of "professor" you are Yes ... Are you getting out? But this was a response to your comment, not a "received-not received":
                          Quote: professor
                          Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?


                          Is there a way (possibility) to shoot from under the ice "differently" or not?
                        24. +1
                          29 March 2021 08: 15
                          Quote: Insurgent
                          Quote: professor
                          Received?

                          It is clear what kind of "professor" you are Yes ... Are you getting out? But this was a response to your comment, not a "received-not received":
                          Quote: professor
                          Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?


                          Is there a way (possibility) to shoot from under the ice "differently" or not?

                          That is, for now no way to shoot from under the ice. I rest my case. hi
                        25. +1
                          29 March 2021 08: 18
                          Quote: professor
                          That is, there is no way to shoot from under the ice yet. I rest my case.

                          "professor", your previous answer with "jumping off topic", completely discouraged the desire to conduct any dialogue with you.

                          In short ... How is it in the sonnet? "Chill out Vasya" ?
                        26. +1
                          29 March 2021 10: 56
                          What I was talking about. None of this (shoot from under the ice) can not.
                          They are only working on this and will be able to cope with it, it is not clear. It is not enough just to break through the ice before launching the rocket, it still needs to be cleared in order to avoid the rocket colliding with the ice debris. hi
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                        28. +3
                          27 March 2021 15: 18
                          Quote: 2534M
                          Quote: poquello
                          more precisely, without them, they cannot, as well as shoot from under the ice

                          don't bullshit hurt her
                          they do not shoot ROCKETS from under the ice
                          stupid because they DO NOT NEED IT

                          After receiving the command to use weapons, they are obliged to execute it as soon as possible. And ice should not be a hindrance for this. Making a hole is one of the tactical techniques that allows you to carry out a missile attack at the right time.

                          Quote: 2534M
                          Have you tried a snack?
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                        30. +5
                          27 March 2021 15: 23
                          Quote: 2534M
                          MUSIER, AN OPPONENT DOESN'T NEED TO FLY ROCKETS UNDER ICE
                          AND THEY DO NOT DO IT

                          this makes me happy
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                        32. +4
                          27 March 2021 13: 14
                          Quote: professor
                          By the way, an interesting fact is that the bourgeois have been carrying out under-ice Arctic transitions since the 1940s.

                          and there the reason seemed to be different, ours with the air had a strong lag
                        33. -14
                          27 March 2021 13: 14
                          Quote: Terenin
                          a bedtime story ... Then the newest boat "Seawolf" fell into the "ice trap".

                          fool
                          do not drugs wassat drag to the forum
                          uncle Styopa will scold lol
                        34. -14
                          27 March 2021 13: 16
                          Quote: aszzz888
                          Two nuclear-powered submarines of the US Navy - Hartford and Connecticut - got stuck in the Arctic ice during the ICEX 2018 exercise. In the course ... are you more facts, or enough?

                          Monsieur, these are not YOUR "facts" wassat and NARCOTA fool
                        35. +1
                          27 March 2021 14: 42
                          So Biden regularly nays ... on the ladder! The whole world has seen.
                2. +6
                  27 March 2021 10: 23
                  Quote: professor
                  No chainsaw found? Druzhba ceased to be produced, and import substitution did not work?

                  Why should we cut the snow with "Friendship"?
        2. +5
          27 March 2021 10: 19
          Quote: professor
          That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.

          Not well. In honor of the re-election of Mr. B.B., three times 16 times, should we salute from these submarines? Not ShiningA thick allusion to Butusov's song "Goodbye America. O. Where I Will Never Be" was sent to the yawning hail on the hill.
          1. +3
            27 March 2021 11: 05

            Tusv (Vladimir)
            Today, 10: 19

            +2
            Quote: Professor
            That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.

            Not well. In honor of the re-election of Mr. B.B., three times 16 times, should we salute from these submarines?
            So he did not think, as always. He has such a job)) wink
        3. -5
          27 March 2021 13: 13
          Quote: professor
          There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side.

          small yes - emergency assistance
        4. +3
          27 March 2021 14: 42
          Quote: professor
          That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.

          The captain of the atomic Israeli submarine under the military nickname "Professor" knows the final best. After all, he has several extreme ascents from under the ice of Antarctica. Continue to share your invaluable experience in naval affairs, "professor." bully
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            1. +3
              27 March 2021 15: 00
              Quote: 2534M
              the form corresponding in the closet does not hang

              I had different shapes in the closet ... But what is bothering you?
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                  27 March 2021 15: 24
                  Quote: 2534M
                  clear

                  and what do you understand? curious... feel
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                    1. +4
                      27 March 2021 15: 34
                      Quote: 2534M
                      I would be very glad to YOUR instinct
                      on Jews

                      Is this your photo? Or what? By the way, about the different uniforms in the closet ... Well, for example ... Here is a friend of mine served in the SA as a tanker, then served in the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then was the head of one of the special power units in the drug control agency. And each time the shape was different. This is an example for the gifted, like you. hi
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                        1. +3
                          27 March 2021 15: 39
                          Quote: 2534M
                          no, "especially gifted" here YOU
                          such a scent!

                          y-yes .. it stinks from you (specifically) notably ... request
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                        3. +2
                          27 March 2021 16: 44
                          Quote: 2534M
                          And YOUR "thin nose" (on the Jews) let you down this time - I'm not a Jew

                          I understand you are an "intellectual". wassat
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                        5. +2
                          27 March 2021 17: 03
                          Quote: 2534M
                          i'm anti-ship
                          on education and upbringing
                          and YOU didn't understand anything

                          He got into someone else's conversation, called him a Nazi (completely unsubstantiated, based on some of his conjectures, well, just like Psaki), although I did not even enter into an argument with you about submarines and torpedoes.
                          For me, so "very educated intellectual". good
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                        7. +1
                          27 March 2021 17: 48
                          Quote: 2534M
                          I asked a question about YOUR talents in "remote sniffing of Jews" - as stated by YOURSELF, PERSONALLY

                          I wonder where I said this personally? intellectual, you are our nervous ...
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                        9. +2
                          27 March 2021 18: 48
                          So what?! Well, you are an intellectual !!! laughing
      4. 0
        27 March 2021 09: 36
        Not just impressive, but surreal.
        How foreign the black case looks against the background of white ice and snow.
    3. +14
      27 March 2021 07: 33
      Barbarians. And why didn't they start cutting the ice civilized with a chainsaw?
      1. +8
        27 March 2021 07: 36
        Gasoline is expensive ...
      2. +10
        27 March 2021 07: 38
        Chainsaw is not civilized, it has exhaust, you need either electric or two-handed, one on top, the second on the bottom. lol
        1. +3
          27 March 2021 08: 08
          I vote for the "two-handed" -ecological ...
          1. -2
            27 March 2021 09: 55
            [quote] [I vote for "two-handed" -ecological ... / quote] ....... recklessly ... a two-handed tooth can break off and northern animals are extremely inquisitive to sample an object other than snow and ice, eat a broken tooth from the saw and that's it ... the population will die out .. it's not much there anyway ... LAZAREACH SHOOT IS NECESSARY TO SAW ... LAZAREM
            1. 0
              27 March 2021 09: 59
              Would the laser be powered from the reactor?
              1. -1
                27 March 2021 10: 11
                Would the laser be powered from the reactor?
                ..... and what ... there is overexposure from a diesel engine burns not sickly ... but from a nuclear pressure cooker so generally there should be tin
      3. +10
        27 March 2021 07: 38
        Quote: Cowbra
        Barbarians. And why didn't they start cutting the ice civilized with a chainsaw?

        I look at it with admiration.
        This is a submarine, not an icebreaker.
        Many years and health to those who are still alive from those involved in the creation of these ships.
      4. +3
        27 March 2021 07: 46

        Cowbra
        Today, 07: 33
        NEW
        +3
        Barbarians. And why didn't they start cutting the ice civilized with a chainsaw?
        Let's leave these actions to the Merikatos, wink because they are not capable of anything else. Hello Cowbra

        hi
        1. +5
          27 March 2021 08: 01
          Dobrego hi Do you think PentaNoga has already scribbled a statement from penguins torn by bears? No, I know that they are not found there, but either I, or Psaki ...
          1. 0
            27 March 2021 09: 54

            Cowbra
            Today, 08: 01
            NEW

            +1
            Good hi Do you think that PentaNoga has already scribbled a statement from penguins torn by bears? No, I know that they are not found there, but either I, or Psaki ...
            Hike, the Merikatos are now in a complete stupor. How to explain to the can, (the chief of the mericastoi with his brains and memory) WHERE it happened, WHEN, and under what circumstances. laughing Psaki twists HIS globe (she has a large cage!), Looking for an answer ...
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      5. +3
        27 March 2021 08: 27
        The primordial laziness of the Russian peasant, EPRST. laughing It should be hunchbacked when God gave people the strength of Archimedes? laughing
        1. +5
          27 March 2021 10: 35
          Quote: Captive
          The primordial laziness of the Russian peasant, EPRST.

          Because of this Russian laziness, many "exceptional" and "thugs" still have the opportunity to live. So let them rejoice.
          1. -1
            27 March 2021 12: 23
            These underdeveloped jackals lack intelligence to understand this. So they are teasing the bear.
      6. -22
        27 March 2021 08: 46
        The main thing is to loudly poke the whole world.
        1. +15
          27 March 2021 08: 57
          The main thing is to loudly poke the whole world.

          Yeah, especially in the comments)))
        2. +4
          27 March 2021 10: 40
          Quote: Denis Rumyanny
          The main thing is to loudly poke the whole world.

          Are the exceptional ones afraid of going out of orbit? winked That's right, be afraid!
        3. +2
          27 March 2021 12: 24
          And you have a feline bunch. Don’t be overstrained, lad, you’re going to sleep on your trousers.
          1. -7
            27 March 2021 14: 34
            Satisfied with the Tantrums of the Putriots
          2. +2
            27 March 2021 14: 52
            laughing So they are always like this! Without taking off the trousers.
      7. 0
        27 March 2021 09: 16
        Quote: Cowbra
        Barbarians. And why didn't they start cutting the ice civilized with a chainsaw?

        =====
        Gasoline has run out! wassat
    4. +18
      27 March 2021 07: 35
      And the name of the expedition is remarkable - "Umka" and its purpose: Russia is strengthening in the Arctic.

      And such a simultaneous ascent on such a limited space, in my opinion, was carried out for the first time - a sample of skill.
      1. +6
        27 March 2021 08: 36
        ... sample of craftsmanship


        Also a model of interaction and organization.
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                          27 March 2021 20: 03
                          Quote: 2534M
                          are you generally able to answer for your words?

                          actually here I am, in blue. come and ask questions personally. I will try to answer
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                        9. 0
                          27 March 2021 20: 15
                          you are an internet coward. request Well, let everyone see and read you now. and they know who you are. wink
    5. +3
      27 March 2021 07: 35
      Class! Everything is white around, and it is not clear where the ice ends and the sky begins. Silence is all around, only the wind whistles.
    6. +1
      27 March 2021 07: 39
      I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
      group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component?
      1. +3
        27 March 2021 07: 48
        Information warfare is also a war.
      2. +1
        27 March 2021 07: 51
        They also have an acre of torpedoes and missiles, three rocket carriers emerged and fired at the decision-making centers, the launch sites were tracked, and there are already three holes, to deliver or pick up 300 Spartans. Few? I forgot, they also took the cargo from the bottom.
        1. bar
          0
          27 March 2021 08: 16
          Quote: Most Kind
          missiles are available, three missile carriers emerged and fired

          How do they burst if the hatches are covered with ice? 1,5 meters is not a cat sneezing. All personnel to clean for half a day ...
          1. -1
            27 March 2021 08: 34
            The ice over the hatches is already pokotsan, you can clearly see from the video. As for the opening of the lid - a column of broken ice of 1,5 meters weighs an order of magnitude and hook less than a column of water during an underwater launch))) IMHO. of course, but it’s for rent, you can go to the extreme.
            1. +4
              27 March 2021 08: 45
              For this, the shaft is first filled with water so that the water column above the hatch does not press.
              This number will not work with ice.
          2. +2
            27 March 2021 10: 00
            Quote: bar
            How do they burst if the hatches are covered with ice? 1,5 meters is not a cat sneezing. All personnel to clean for half a day ...

            So after all, even the hump of the rocket deck did not appear - what to clean then? In that case, you can't fire the missiles ...
            You can dive BH (no move). And then again ascend with the blowing of the ballast tanks. Then the ice will partly fly away and you can float up completely, and not along the deckhouse.
      3. +1
        27 March 2021 08: 07
        Quote: Bez 310
        I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
        group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component

        Advertising is not bad either, but what about helping? One other? A crew member got sick, or something ...
        1. +2
          27 March 2021 08: 11
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          but to provide help? One other?

          I asked to answer "specialists" ...
          1. +5
            27 March 2021 10: 01
            Quote: Bez 310
            I asked to answer "specialists" ...

            The answer is that all the benefits of such an emergence are only for a communication session. Combat work - zero.
            1. -3
              27 March 2021 10: 52
              Quote: Gritsa
              Quote: Bez 310
              I asked to answer "specialists" ...

              The answer is that all the benefits of such an emergence are only for a communication session. Combat work - zero.

              His "experts" and authorities, judging by the photo, are different.
              1. -2
                27 March 2021 10: 55
                Quote: Terenin
                His "experts" and authorities, judging by the photo, are different.

                No need to become a commentator!
                If there is nothing to answer the question asked, do not
                interfere with answering "specialists".
                1. -3
                  27 March 2021 11: 02
                  Quote: Bez 310
                  Quote: Terenin
                  His "experts" and authorities, judging by the photo, are different.

                  No need to become a commentator!
                  If there is nothing to answer the question asked, do not
                  interfere with answering "specialists".

                  Something I do not see your comments on the topic, but a continuous low-grade trolling.
      4. bar
        +1
        27 March 2021 08: 14
        Quote: Bez 310
        I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this

        Also interesting. You won't be able to launch the rockets, the hatches of the mines under the ice won't open ... recourse
      5. +18
        27 March 2021 08: 20
        . what is the meaning of this
        group "maneuver


        Practicing joint maneuvering and interaction. It is useless to use weapons. We were very close. They can get in the way. The very emergence in ice allows you to acquire skills in the use of weapons in high latitudes. This is difficult. The whole crew is "on the nerves".
        The video shows the thickness of the ice. It's hard to empty the rocket deck. You can't do without a tool. And in the state it is generally not. It is necessary to take it "specially". There are no regular storage locations.
        The Americans in such conditions will not be able to do anything at all. The buoyancy margin is small. They sit low.
        Our ice was broken. The deck is difficult to clean, but possible.
        This event is even difficult to organize, much less to carry out. The experience gained is invaluable.
        This should be done constantly, and not once in decades. It is necessary to know the capabilities of equipment and crews. Let's put aside the advertising component and just say: "GOOD MEN!"
        1. -2
          27 March 2021 08: 37
          Quote: Podvodnik
          Practicing joint maneuvering and interaction. It is useless to use weapons.

          And what is the meaning of "joint maneuvering" of SSBNs?
          1. +7
            27 March 2021 10: 13
            And what is the meaning of "joint maneuvering" of SSBNs?


            Not to forget how ZPS works, though. And joint maneuvering in general. Several SSBNs are optional. Here, after all, we went out very precisely to the place. We made an ascent with a hindrance. This is the organization of lighting the situation, maneuvering in cramped conditions. Found, for example, a wormwood, as if it had surfaced in it. Or they received information about her. The point is in organizing and implementing an event, practicing skills. Joint maneuvering as an element only. Can we? We were able to. We got experience. It will not be superfluous. Apply if necessary. Situations can be different, not necessarily combat.
            1. -4
              27 March 2021 11: 29
              And joint maneuvering in general. Several SSBNs are optional.

              It would be more correct to say it is not necessary, but simply criminal. Either negligence, or treason. Three SSBNs together :(
              The point is in organizing and implementing an event, practicing skills. Joint maneuvering as an element only. Can we? We were able to. We got experience. It will not be superfluous. Apply if necessary.

              Agree, this is if all these maneuvers were carried out by standard means of boats.
              And if a kind soul :), for example, before going out to the area, she drilled holes in the ice and put some beacons under the ice or created the conditions by some other non-standard method - what will this give the crew in a real situation when there are no beacons?
              1. +1
                27 March 2021 18: 10
                but simply criminal.


                Evmenov's plan is unknown to me. Maybe he plans to create a protected positioning area in the Arctic. Cables with hydrophones are stretched, air defense is tightened, appropriate forces and means. Let them train.

                some beacons under the ice

                Maybe. In combat conditions, just how to apply it? To mark polynyas and divorces?
                In fact, advertising is present. In combat conditions, maneuvering at such distances is impossible. Why they worked it out, I do not understand. So after all, and on the shore, it was clearly not one day preparing.
                One thing is clear. They conceived something, decided to check and work it out. They will draw conclusions, reward the guilty, punish those who are not involved.
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            2. -8
              27 March 2021 13: 19
              Quote: Podvodnik
              practicing skills. Joint maneuvering as an element only.

              a question in a tactical sense
              1. +2
                27 March 2021 18: 18
                a question in a tactical sense


                At first glance, it makes no sense. Three SSBNs in one place? They wanted to work out something and test it in practice. Maybe new tactics are being tested. In fact, even surface watermen at such distances are tense to maneuver. What can we say about the submariners. Go to the point with an error of 10 meters, stand on the depth stabilizer without moving, ice up and, on command (or time "h"), blow out the tanks. And the boat is inertial. And for sure there is a flow. But they did it. And already well done just for this reason.
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      6. 0
        27 March 2021 10: 41
        Quote: Bez 310
        I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
        group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component?

        A. There is only an advertising component. Three wheelhouses are three by sixteen times three by warheads. And that was in the Arctic. Flight time with gulkin's nose. Theirs SM - 3 will not even have time to start when the polar fox arrives
        1. +1
          27 March 2021 11: 31
          Three cabinets are three by sixteen times three by warheads.

          Only MANPADS are fired from the wheelhouse, and there is one warhead, or signal flares. Anything more from the deckhouse will not work.
          hi
          1. 0
            27 March 2021 17: 45
            Quote: Avior
            Three cabinets are three by sixteen times three by warheads.

            Only MANPADS are fired from the wheelhouse, and there is one warhead, or signal flares. Anything more from the deckhouse will not work.
            hi

            and what, is it frozen?
      7. +2
        27 March 2021 10: 51
        Quote: Bez 310
        I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
        group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component?

        Yes, in such a "trifle" as in the existence of Russia as a sovereign state (its independence in the external sphere).
        Or did you, after the blackened eye, have recaptured your historical memory?
        1. 0
          27 March 2021 11: 48
          Quote: Terenin
          Or did you, after the blackened eye, have recaptured your historical memory?
          Yes, the pseudo-righteous never understand that the oath given to the Soviet Union is as true as to swear allegiance to Imperial Russia
      8. -11
        27 March 2021 13: 18
        Quote: Bez 310
        I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
        group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component?

        1. "advertising" (and we are here catching up with the Anglo-Saxons)
        2.Assistance in an emergency
    7. 0
      27 March 2021 07: 42
      Interestingly, cocoa torpedoes were shot, old or physicist?
      1. -7
        27 March 2021 13: 20
        Quote: jonht
        Interestingly, cocoa torpedoes were shot, old or physicist?

        or "Physicist" or "Kant"
        there will be an article where I will expand both options
        but which one was - I’ll keep quiet for now
    8. +1
      27 March 2021 07: 44
      For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!! good drinks soldier
      1. -7
        27 March 2021 08: 04
        Quote: aszzz888
        For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!! good drinks soldier

        Joining the sheriff !!!! good soldier
      2. -11
        27 March 2021 09: 00
        Quote: aszzz888
        For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!! good drinks soldier

        Yeah. For the first time in the world lol
        American submarines from left to right: USS Connecticut, USS Hartford, HMS Trenchant in 2018.


        1. +2
          27 March 2021 10: 11
          Well, yes, not the First. Although the Yankees have thinner ice.
          1. -1
            27 March 2021 13: 44
            Quote: WFP
            Well, yes, not the First. Although the Yankees have thinner ice.

            Well, it was like that, the poor somehow cut it out ..

            We didn’t try anymore ..
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              1. -2
                27 March 2021 15: 02
                Quote: 2534M
                Quote: xorek
                Well, it was like that, the poor somehow cut it out ..

                fool
                STOP GETTING BACKGROUND AND CARRYING THE ACHINA OF THE LUMINOUS-ILLITERATE SMY wassat

                What's so nervous? You could just write .. wink
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        2. +6
          27 March 2021 10: 18
          Quote: professor
          Yeah. For the first time in the world lol
          American submarines from left to right: USS Connecticut, USS Hartford, HMS Trenchant in 2018.

          And that before that, someone in the world had already arranged the simultaneous emergence of three Russian submarines in the Arctic?
          1. -3
            27 March 2021 10: 22
            Quote: Narak-zempo
            Quote: professor
            Yeah. For the first time in the world lol
            American submarines from left to right: USS Connecticut, USS Hartford, HMS Trenchant in 2018.

            And that before that, someone in the world had already arranged the simultaneous emergence of three Russian submarines in the Arctic?

            Yes you are right. I was inattentive. wink
      3. -6
        27 March 2021 13: 21
        Quote: aszzz888
        For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!!

        Opponent is doing this since the mid-80s
        ALMOST EVERY YEAR
        SHOOTING UP TO THE SPIRIT OF TENS OF TORPEDS ON ONE PLA
        1. +1
          27 March 2021 16: 17
          Quote: 2534M
          Opponent is doing this since the mid-80s
          ALMOST EVERY YEAR
          SHOOTING UP TO THE SPIRIT OF TENS OF TORPEDS ON ONE PLA

          your caps are stuck ... laughing
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    9. +3
      27 March 2021 07: 48
      Show-off in a cube in the style of "achievement for the sake of achievement". The idea of ​​collecting Three SSBNs in one place is the height of genius.
      Report on the breakthrough launch of a torpedo and its icing (Klimov M. which year in a row writes the topic of practical ice-firing torpedoes).
      We are waiting for orders / stripes.
      The flight of the 31s over the Pole should be an ordinary element of the BP, and not a "breakthrough".
      1. +3
        27 March 2021 08: 22
        . should be an ordinary element of BP, and not a "breakthrough".


        I agree. These things have to be done all the time. That's what the BP is for.
      2. 0
        27 March 2021 09: 12
        It is not known which torpedo was fired. Klimov writes about the problem with launching guided torpedoes under the ice
        1. +3
          27 March 2021 09: 54
          He voiced the lack of practice as such (subjectively due to the ability to "click" the materiel by the team providing the shooting).
          It must be banged in such a way that a practical one either pops out in a wormwood / divorce or under thin ice. To catch her infection. And with icebreakers, torpedoes is not rich.
          1. +2
            27 March 2021 10: 29
            Indeed, he wrote that even tests were not carried out by the controlled, and that no one was shooting
            Here is this article on VO
            https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
            1. -4
              27 March 2021 13: 25
              direct link
              https://topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
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      3. -4
        27 March 2021 13: 25
        Quote: WFP
        Report on the breakthrough launch of a torpedo and its icing (Klimov M. which year in a row writes the topic of practical ice-firing torpedoes).

        Well, the article on "VO" "Arctic torpedo scandal" was one of the "podzhopnikov" who nevertheless the feat of VEFE to start such firing.
        And now a good question - what "Fabergés" prevented Evmenov from shooting like that when he was in the ComSF.

        Shl there is reason to believe that the main merit of the event belongs not to the "hockey team of Evmenov" but to the ComSF Moiseev and his headquarters
        1. +2
          27 March 2021 13: 56
          Maxim, I have indicated my "infantry" assumption above (in the part "and if we click through?" ...
          The question is whether the practice as such or will be “filed into the archive” (those who were not involved were awarded, the rest were not punished, the wow-effect was produced and “method recommendations” as “scientific thought” were driven through the Academy).
          1. -4
            27 March 2021 14: 10
            Quote: WFP
            The question is whether the practice as such or will be "filed and archived"

            "the ice is broken"
            as for the results - see Evmenov's formulation (let's say "neat and streamlined")
            and how the first results were written in my "Arctic torpedo scandal"

            another thing is that ONE PIECE TORPED just finished off
            our "torpedo wickedness" is not new, but to arrange SUCH and not shoot at least 4-5-6 torpedoes is "complete PE"
            1. +1
              27 March 2021 14: 29
              Well, 35 out of 43 activities of the "expedition" have been completed! laughing
              Although they promised the "expedition" to continue, so all the firing (with one torpedo) is ahead.
              This is a variant of shooting with an insert barrel ....
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                1. +1
                  27 March 2021 14: 50
                  laughing Traditions...
                  I give up, it's too dark and damp ...
    10. -2
      27 March 2021 07: 50
      But now let the adversary wonder from which side the otvetka will arrive.
    11. -7
      27 March 2021 08: 03
      Try to catch the adversaries !!! This is our insurance in case ...
      1. -6
        27 March 2021 13: 26
        Quote: xorek
        Try to catch the adversaries !!! This is our insurance in case ...

        and she is?
        compare how many YEARS, TIMES and HOW MANY TORPEDS the enemy shoots on such exercises
    12. +1
      27 March 2021 08: 03
      To emerge in such a clear formation, out of the ice, bravo!
      How is communication between boats carried out? I think hydroacoustic, or what has appeared less unmasking?
      1. -3
        27 March 2021 08: 19
        Quote: Popandos
        I think hydroacoustic, or what has appeared less unmasking?

        It also appeared on completely new physical principles (for which neither water, plasma, nor distance is an obstacle) which no one has yet.
        1. -4
          27 March 2021 13: 27
          Quote: Boris55
          which no one has yet.

          Yeah
          special unit of ship priests
          or shamans
      2. +5
        27 March 2021 08: 34
        ... How is communication between boats carried out?


        By ZPS (sound underwater communication). It is clear that it took a long time to fall asleep in turn, chose a place, dropped the observers and everyone who needed it in advance ....
        There is an advertising component.
        But this is not so easy to accomplish. Especially at such distances. It is practically impossible to carry out a simultaneous movement in such a formation. Only one by one. Otherwise, you can collide. Well, active means in the form of a mine detecting station, echometer, circular navigation detectors. Judging by the ideal formation, something abnormal was used for positioning.
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      1. +1
        27 March 2021 08: 58
        Klimov wrote that guided torpedoes were not fired under the ice.
        1. -2
          27 March 2021 10: 30
          Quote: Avior
          Klimov wrote,

          laughing laughing laughing
          1. +1
            27 March 2021 10: 34
            These are verifiable facts. You just need to give information that such tests were carried out if Klimov wrote a lie.
            Do you know about such launches?
            1. -3
              27 March 2021 13: 29
              Quote: Avior
              These are verifiable facts. You just need to give information that such tests were carried out if Klimov wrote a lie.
              Do you know about such launches?

              have mercy on the wretched lol
              Evmenov himself voiced that FOR THE FIRST TIME
              1. -1
                29 March 2021 08: 48
                Quote: 2534M
                Quote: Avior
                These are verifiable facts. You just need to give information that such tests were carried out if Klimov wrote a lie.
                Do you know about such launches?

                have mercy on the wretched lol
                Evmenov himself voiced that FOR THE FIRST TIME

                Take pity on yourself and learn to read. For the first time such a joint event was jointly with researchers and aviation. He did not say anything about torpedo firing.
    14. +7
      27 March 2021 08: 21
      The stump is clear, one hundred it is demonstratively removed with preliminary preparation.
      But the fact itself is impressive.
      Collecting three boats at one point is an achievement. Here the navigators and the staff distinguished themselves. And the commanders did not have to sleep long.
      In general, well done!
      1. 0
        27 March 2021 09: 04
        ... this is demonstratively removed with preliminary preparation.
        But the fact itself is impressive.

        And from a practical point of view, was there any sense in such a collective emergence?
        As far as I understand, the trick is dangerous.
        1. +3
          27 March 2021 10: 35
          More than dangerous!
          Nevertheless, this most difficult trick succeeded.
          The experience of concentrating three nuclear submarines at one point has been acquired. The interaction of three ships in a submerged state has been worked out.
          Sworn friends-partners are intimidated.
          That is, many goals have been achieved, tactical tasks have been solved.
          1. -5
            27 March 2021 11: 01
            The experience of concentrating three nuclear submarines at one point has been acquired. The interaction of three ships in a submerged state has been worked out.

            For three strategists at one point, their command needs to be dismissed from service without a pension, actually. If the joint maneuvering of a strategist and a multipurpose one or two or three multipurpose ones worked out, it would still be possible to understand something. And as if the saboteur planned to substitute three strategists.
            And it's hard to understand why the Americans were intimidated ...
            1. -4
              27 March 2021 13: 33
              Quote: Avior
              For three strategists at one point, their command needs to be dismissed from service without a pension, actually

              do not
              we have finally "matured" to exercises like ICEX
              and taking into account their "advertising" component in the US Navy and Great Britain, there is a sense in such a reciprocal window dressing
          2. -6
            27 March 2021 13: 32
            Quote: U-58
            Sworn friends-partners are intimidated.

            monsieur, they rather CHICK
            taking into account how many years they have been doing this and the fact that they shoot at a time in SEVERAL TEN TIMES more torpedoes
        2. -3
          27 March 2021 13: 30
          Quote: Avior
          And from a practical point of view, was there any sense in such a collective emergence?

          three - it makes no sense (only advertising, and what the Anglo-Saxons have been doing for so long)
          two - certain is (emergency assistance)
          1. +2
            27 March 2021 13: 34
            Two strategists close to each other, in principle, cannot be
            Multipurpose paired with a strategist - it would be closer to reality
      2. -5
        27 March 2021 13: 30
        Quote: U-58
        Collecting three boats at one point is an achievement

        the meaning (tactical) of this achievement, you, apparently, are able to explain?
    15. 0
      27 March 2021 08: 22
      Baton and two Squids ... the tan will definitely be blown off the map ..
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        1. 0
          27 March 2021 13: 45
          I would like to hear the opinion of professionals, and not the ravings of amateurs ... about the 955A ..
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      2. -6
        27 March 2021 14: 12
        Quote: Angry 55
        Baton and two Squids

        no need to drag ships off the adventure
        no loaves there
        squid the same (the last - "Ryazan" for a long time at the Pacific Fleet)
    16. -1
      27 March 2021 08: 26
      This is to prevent unnecessary enemy boats and planes not to drive .. - to save the resource and fuel of the enemy .. well, and (forgive the cynicism, good people), so that it was more convenient to look for, if what kind of emergency, God forbid? The sacred meaning is to expose not one, but three combat units at once to the enemy's attack .. - this is a strong strategic move .. I apologize again for the comparison .. but apart from idiotic bravado (look, we ran away from you, you lost us, and here we are all together!) - I don’t see any effect from this action .. By the way, yesterday the news flashed that the leadership of our Navy still changed its mind about cutting nuclear-powered ships .. - Antei will rearm ..
    17. -3
      27 March 2021 09: 06
      But I'm wondering how much damage the boats received and how much they will have to be repaired now.
      Who even thought of breaking thick ice with their antennas, periscope, rudders?
      Is it really impossible to make some kind of attachment, even the most primitive bomb, to crush the ice before surfacing?
      1. +1
        27 March 2021 18: 31
        Who even thought of breaking thick ice with their antennas, periscope, rudders?


        The chopping rudders are moved to a vertical position. No retractable periscopes and antennas "stick out". The very fence of the cutting ("cutting" in a simple) is strengthened and designed for surfacing in ice. Up to certain parameters, of course. Light damage is possible. The task will not be affected.
    18. +2
      27 March 2021 09: 09
      And who threw off the ice from felling? And who filmed the boats that suddenly surfaced?
      1. 0
        27 March 2021 18: 35
        And who threw off the ice from the felling?


        The crew threw off and fell itself. There the curvature is good and the area is small. Height is present. It's not that hard. It is much more difficult to clean the rocket deck.

        And who filmed the boats that suddenly surfaced?

        Advertising element is present. The ascent point is known. The forces and means have been planted in advance. Although he himself was surprised. The deckhouse of the floating submarine was in the center of the frame.
    19. -1
      27 March 2021 09: 14
      ***

      If it is necessary, then it is necessary!

      We'll have to break the ice ...

      ***
    20. 0
      27 March 2021 09: 14
      Judging by the ideal formation, something abnormal was used for positioning.

      Here I am about the same thing, one ZPS is not enough, perhaps this is a demonstration of some kind of technology of mutual positioning relative to each other. Then it is clear why this demonstration was needed.
      1. 0
        27 March 2021 20: 39
        maybe this is a demonstration of some kind of technology


        I once again watched the video and drew attention to the pole sticking out next to the cockpit of the pop-up submarine. Look, you can see it very well. It was clearly installed by someone before surfacing. Everything was marked in advance. But here's how to bring the submarine there? Maybe the beacon was lowered into the hole? Even so, it is still unclear how it surfaced exactly under the peg? There are no thrusters as on the liner.
    21. +6
      27 March 2021 09: 47
      Good day to all. Certainly, this is a show of strength. Please note that simultaneously with the ascent, a pair of MiG-31s ​​"walked" with the IL-78 over the North Pole. An unambiguous message, "whose cones are in the forest." I was impressed by the thickness of the pack ice on the deckhouse of the boat. I don’t want to say anything, but in my opinion on the video, where "potential partners" float, the ice is twice as thin.
      1. 0
        27 March 2021 11: 09
        Bear
        Orso (Michael)
        Today, 09: 47
        +1
        Good day to all. Certainly, this is a show of strength. Please note that simultaneously with the ascent, a pair of MiG-31s ​​"walked" with the IL-78 over the North Pole. An unambiguous message, "whose cones are in the forest." I was impressed by the thickness of the pack ice on the deckhouse of the boat. I don't want to say anything but in my opinion on the video, where "potential partners" float, the ice is two times thinner.
        Don't talk about itхfisoru, will demand facts about measuring the thickness of ice. wink His job is hard, ONLY PRAISING the Merikatos. laughing
        1. -5
          27 March 2021 14: 27
          Quote: aszzz888
          Do not tell the prohfIsoru about this, he will demand facts about measuring the thickness of the ice. His job is hard, ONLY PRAISING the Merikatos.

          no, monsieur - it's YOU too stupid
          the ability to break thick ice with the hull requires a large buoyancy reserve
          which was implemented on our nuclear submarines DUE TO DECREASING THE BATTLE QUALITY
      2. +3
        27 March 2021 12: 15
        When surfacing with ice breaking, there is a maximum ice break thickness value for each submarine project. Moreover, the meanings are different for peacetime and wartime.
      3. -5
        27 March 2021 13: 36
        Quote: Orso
        I don’t want to say anything, but in my opinion on the video, where "potential partners" float, the ice is twice as thin.

        this does not apply to the tactical properties of submarines (only submarines)
      4. +2
        27 March 2021 18: 39
        where "potential partners" emerge, the ice is twice as thin.


        Ours have a lot more buoyancy. And they "sit" higher. It's easier to break the ice. And it's easier to clean. They will not cope with "our" ice. We push harder.
    22. +2
      27 March 2021 10: 08
      Three Russian nuclear submarines surfaced simultaneously in the Arctic ice
      ... Well, FLYED, not stuck!
      1. +2
        27 March 2021 11: 47
        They also fished out a torpedo in a limited radius ...
        1. +1
          27 March 2021 12: 33
          The teachings are going on. Normal process ... because the army fights the way it was taught !!!
          1. +3
            27 March 2021 12: 35
            Someone really doesn't like it ...
            1. +2
              27 March 2021 12: 37
              The enemy cannot like what WE are, we are strong, we learn, we become even stronger.
              1. +2
                27 March 2021 12: 39
                So these are their problems, we do not ask to love us, we ask not to meddle with us and they will be more whole ...
                1. +1
                  27 March 2021 12: 51
                  This is our enemy ... we must be able to keep him at a distance.
                  1. +1
                    27 March 2021 16: 07
                    Quote: rocket757
                    This is our enemy ... we must be able to keep him at a distance.


                    And it is desirable to go further, we would stop the further advance of NATO ...
                    1. 0
                      27 March 2021 16: 39
                      And who else do they want? All their recent acquisitions, somehow not ah.
                      Who else can they pull up?
                      In addition, a large, variegated association acts accordingly .... some in the woods, some for firewood.
                      1. +1
                        27 March 2021 17: 25
                        Or they must include Ukraine, then NATO will definitely not stand it. lol
                        1. 0
                          27 March 2021 18: 14
                          They do not need Banderstan ... they want to incite him, but there are no, no, bad people to stand up for him.
                        2. +2
                          27 March 2021 19: 04
                          Or maybe not let them gain a foothold in Ukraine ...
                        3. 0
                          27 March 2021 19: 23
                          To say, to want, is not enough. This is a large-scale work, impact is needed ...
                          I do not know who and how can do it, will do it.
                        4. +1
                          27 March 2021 21: 08
                          And we have no other option ...
          2. -7
            27 March 2021 14: 15
            Quote: rocket757
            The teachings are going on. Normal process ... because the army fights the way it was taught !!!

            do not you find that ODYN PIECES TURPED on the exercises "somehow quite wretched"?
            Quote: rocket757
            the army is fighting as it was taught !!!
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        1. +1
          27 March 2021 16: 29
          Quote: 2534M
          stop GORGING BOTH and CARRY BACKGROUND

          even if the individual is not in the subject, this does not mean that you need to raise a hysterical cry. it just makes you look funnier. And do not use kapslok already, this is bad manners. wink
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          2. 0
            27 March 2021 16: 43
            Quote: Tank Hard
            even if the individual is not in the subject,

            Are our boats stuck? Did I miss something?
            About the torpedo ... there is nothing to write about, especially, although there was no such thing at all.
            1. 0
              27 March 2021 16: 48
              Quote: rocket757
              Are our boats stuck? Did I miss something?

              I'm not talking about you personally. hi It's just that the individual is rude and shouts at any opinion with which he does not agree. And this speaks of his development, even if he "smokes the topic", and the opponent does not. hi
              1. +1
                27 March 2021 16: 59
                The screaming one did not even taste this topic ... the boats of the potential enemy were really stuck in the ice. Only the lazy didn’t talk about it.
                So then, such to ignore and nothing more. Not interested. soldier
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              1. +2
                27 March 2021 18: 04
                Quote: 2534M
                Quote: rocket757
                Are our boats stuck?

                Give AT LEAST ONE example of a submarine "stuck" in the ice (it's not about movement on the surface)
                We are waiting, Monsieur balabol

                "who calls themselves names like that ..."
                There were precedents for the rescue of Americans in the Arctic when in 2015 Russian helicopter pilots, who were making a planned (or maybe not planned) overflight of one of the regions, discovered an American Seawulf-class nuclear submarine frozen into the ice. Only a small upper part of the submarine's wheelhouse protruded from the hummocks, which passed a six-month combat duty and made an not entirely successful ascent.

                Remembering the 2011 incident when the Connecticut submarine got stuck in the ice during the Ice Exercise Arctic exercise

                One of the latest cases on a similar topic is the Los Angeles-class nuclear submarine Hartford stuck in the northern ice and taking part in the Ice Exercise-2018 exercise.

                https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/286675/
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                  1. +3
                    27 March 2021 18: 42
                    Quote: 2534M
                    have not tried to think? or not?

                    nope, even count
                    Quote: 2534M
                    BRED and ACHINEA

                    how many times did not write, because not an argument never
    23. +1
      27 March 2021 10: 30
      As for me, the passage through the ice is event number 2, but about the under-ice shooting (this is also the first time?) is more interesting, where does the Physicist say?
    24. -1
      27 March 2021 10: 57
      What kind of maneuvers? It looks like artistic swimming in a pool (Arctic Ocean).
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        1. -1
          27 March 2021 20: 20
          Well, it's not a fact that there was only one torpedo, and here it is important to understand what and how ... in order to work out the technology in the future
    26. -1
      27 March 2021 11: 45
      Also, as part of the Umka-2021 complex expedition, a pair of long-range MiG-31 interceptors made a flight with the passage of the North Pole point. During the mission, the MiG-31 was refueled in the air.


      The name of the exercise is just super and the tasks were worked out well done ...
    27. +2
      27 March 2021 11: 46
      What is the point of pulling three (!) SNPs to one point? Smells like a show or another "star trip".
      1. -3
        27 March 2021 12: 03
        The point is to designate a meeting point for boats of different fleets, to move them in stealth mode when moving under ice fields, and to interact within a squadron.
        1. +1
          27 March 2021 12: 08
          Only the actions of the SN RPK as part of the squadron, as well as their meetings, are not provided for by the tactical guides ...
          For multipurpose submarines - understandable.
          1. -3
            27 March 2021 12: 37
            New times force us to write new instructions and update old statutes.
            1. -4
              27 March 2021 13: 42
              Quote: Angry 55
              New times force us to write new instructions and update old statutes.

              fool
              this nonsense wassat YOU have it written in the training manual? or YOU yourself are so "creative" wassat ?
              lol
          2. +2
            27 March 2021 20: 19
            in this case, there are three points: 1) to show the adversary that we are not asleep, because believe me, the West will soon sink that they need money for the army. 2) practicing the actions of various boats, 3) practicing various tasks ... and the scientists there, in fact, are collecting data for subsequent conclusions
        2. -4
          27 March 2021 14: 14
          Quote: Angry 55
          The point is to designate a meeting point for boats of different fleets, to move them in stealth mode when moving under ice fields, and to interact within a squadron.

          fool
          YOU are aware of what ACHINA wassat DO YOU CARRY? lol
        3. +2
          27 March 2021 14: 45
          You wrote nonsense to put it mildly.
        4. -1
          27 March 2021 19: 56
          Of course, invisibility will be, but "inaudibility" is definitely not.
    28. 0
      28 March 2021 08: 29
      From a practical point of view, this surfacing does not give anything, SSBNs should not emerge.
      Here is Bark, not brought to mind, unlike Bulava, he could break through the ice himself and the Boreas would not have to look for a wormwood. Such a launch and spectacle is impressive and the practical effect is colossal.
      And the Sharks, which should have been rearmed in general after the modernization on Barki, are the most ideal SSBNs for northern latitudes, and habitability is not attainable and the margin of safety, thanks to two independent strong hulls, is prohibitive. It is a pity that Bark was ditched and the Sharks were put on pins and needles.
    29. +1
      28 March 2021 09: 50
      The Anglo-Saxons have announced their desire to poke their navy in insolently into the NSR. This is our last Russian warning to them.
    30. -1
      28 March 2021 16: 55
      Shaw? All three at once?

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