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Three Russian nuclear submarines surfaced simultaneously in the Arctic ice

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Three Russian nuclear submarines surfaced simultaneously in the Arctic ice

Three nuclear-powered submarines of the Russian Navy made their first ascent in the Arctic region as part of the Umka-2021 integrated Arctic expedition. This was reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin by the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian fleet Admiral Nikolai Evmenov.


Three nuclear-powered submarines ascended in a limited area with a radius of 300 meters, breaking through the XNUMX-meter ice. Before surfacing, one of the submarines conducted practical torpedo firing, after which the torpedo was raised to the surface through a specially made wormwood.

Also, as part of the Umka-2021 complex expedition, a pair of long-range MiG-31 interceptors made a flight with the passage of the North Pole point. During the mission, the MiG-31 was refueled in the air.


For the first time, according to a single concept and plan in the circumpolar regions, a complex of combat training, research and practical measures of various directions is being carried out

- said the commander-in-chief of the Navy, adding that the Navy is conducting an expedition together with the Russian Geographical Society.

The expedition involved more than 600 military and civilian personnel and about 200 models of weapons, military and special equipment.

Based on the results of the measures taken, the samples of weapons, military and special equipment participating in military-technical experiments generally confirmed their tactical and technical characteristics in conditions of high latitudes and low temperatures.

- Evmenov reported to the commander-in-chief.
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  1. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 27 March 2021 07: 29
    +23
    US Navy submarine Hartford is stuck in the ice of the Arctic during a tactical exercise that rehearsed scenarios for striking Russia. The submarine was unable to surface to carry out a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice. The incident took place last week, but it became known about it only now. A video with a stuck submarine, filmed by CNN, appeared on the web.
    1. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 27 March 2021 07: 39
      -77%
      Quote: From Tomsk
      US Navy submarine Hartford is stuck in the ice of the Arctic during a tactical exercise that rehearsed scenarios for striking Russia. The submarine was unable to surface to carry out a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice. The incident took place last week, but it became known about it only now. A video with a stuck submarine, filmed by CNN, appeared on the web.

      Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew ..... negative
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 27 March 2021 07: 45
        +56
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        Staged video of the show ...

        Precisely, in the background the model of the Crimean bridge sticks out.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 27 March 2021 10: 09
          +21
          Quote: Cowbra
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Staged video of the show ...

          Precisely, in the background the model of the Crimean bridge sticks out.

          Which, as proven by the major unknown Ukrainian scientists, the Russians could not build No.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 27 March 2021 21: 41
            +3
            Gorgeous video. Impressive. good smile
            1. Vladimir Mitin_2
              Vladimir Mitin_2 April 15 2021 15: 10
              -1
              If this was done to impress Mashkov, I do not argue.
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov April 15 2021 15: 19
                -1
                VERY sorry that smart and kind people in the world much less than fools, impudent and impudent. But alas! ... request
      2. user1212
        user1212 27 March 2021 07: 46
        +41
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew .....

        How horrible, do you dare to say aloud the assumption that CNN is filming staged videos? wassat
        1. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 27 March 2021 08: 09
          -37%
          Quote: user1212
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew .....

          How horrible, do you dare to say aloud the assumption that CNN is filming staged videos? wassat

          CNN-forced me to search for someone else's letters on the keyboard, filmed a video ?! It can't be, they don't have icebreakers for those seas ... hi
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 27 March 2021 09: 21
            +2
            And why not admit that it was a SUPER drone with a combat load of 300 tons, which was specially lifted from Okinawa.
            Say thank you that he did not tow any of our boats to Greenland for disassembly for rare earths. laughing
            1. GTYCBJYTH2021
              GTYCBJYTH2021 27 March 2021 09: 43
              -26%
              Quote: hydrox
              And why not admit that it was a SUPER drone with a combat load of 300 tons, which was specially lifted from Okinawa.
              Say thank you that he did not tow any of our boats to Greenland for disassembly for rare earths. laughing

              I agree with you ...... And all sorts of Krasuhi and other REBs are just for show-off ....... SOLDIER WITH AN AUTOMATOR, that's all you need ... Krasuha without electricity, a lot of scrap metal ... .. laughing good drinks
              1. Gray-haired
                Gray-haired 27 March 2021 21: 34
                +4
                The hohlodupe award is deserved! Catch!
      3. bar
        bar 27 March 2021 08: 11
        +18
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed ....

        The fishermen were filming. You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 27 March 2021 08: 19
          +9
          Quote: bar
          The fishermen were filming. You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...

          1. venik
            venik 27 March 2021 09: 08
            +18
            Quote: Insurgent
            You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...

            ========
            Especially if you are sitting on the lake ... belay Exactly - you need to stop drinking ... wassat fool
            laughing
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 27 March 2021 09: 30
              +3
              And if this happens after a bath in the pool ... fool
              1. Alien From
                Alien From 27 March 2021 10: 32
                +3
                I was just after the bath yesterday belay is it really a dream today)
            2. Podvodnik
              Podvodnik 27 March 2021 20: 13
              +2
              Especially if you are sitting on the lake ...


              -There's no fish here!
              -And here too!
              -And who says something?
              -Someone! Stadium director! (with)
          2. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 27 March 2021 10: 53
            +1
            Hmmm ...! Wow navaga!
            1. GTYCBJYTH2021
              GTYCBJYTH2021 27 March 2021 12: 12
              -13%
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              Hmmm ...! Wow navaga!

              Commercial and DELICIOUS navaga fish ... Muscovites are asking for tuna ... We do not catch tuna, it does not live in cold water ...
              1. Aleksandr123
                Aleksandr123 27 March 2021 14: 26
                +2
                "Muscovites are asking for tuna"
                No, well, personally, I'm for hake, navaga, haddock, cod and TD., And that. Here the ice has risen in price helluva lot. And I don’t know tuna, I wouldn’t go too far.
              2. Oden280
                Oden280 27 March 2021 15: 36
                +2
                You catch six-oared galleys in your underpants, not fish.
              3. Gray-haired
                Gray-haired 27 March 2021 21: 38
                +1
                On you, otherwise you will die and you will stink!
              4. Maximilian37
                Maximilian37 29 March 2021 03: 26
                0
                You don’t understand anything about fish if you think navaga is tasty. Cod fish!)))
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 29 March 2021 03: 39
                  -1
                  Quote: Maximilian37
                  Cod fish!)))

                  Uh-huh ... In the sixties they muttered over the radio in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk: "No fish, only cod!" The Japs laughed at us.
        2. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 27 March 2021 08: 52
          -19%
          Quote: bar
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed ....

          The fishermen were filming. You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...

          laughing good drinks
        3. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 27 March 2021 20: 02
          +3
          You sit like this with a fishing rod in front of the hole, and here it is ...


          We went on the surface, Kildin on the horizon. From the bridge they ask for a "matyugalnik", stop the turbine. I went up to look. I look at a motor boat of the "cauldron" type. And nobody is visible. And decently to the coast. Not a lake after all. Asked: "Do you need help?" You never know what .... It blew away, it became bad, gasoline ran out .... Here a "miracle" rises from the bottom. I probably slept (!!!). Looks at us. The eyes are large. PL is healthy, black, yelling something from the top. Yes, and about 50 meters before it was. He waved his hand, the engine jerked to the shore. He remembered us for the rest of his life.
      4. loki565
        loki565 27 March 2021 08: 38
        +9
        Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew .....

        So this is not the first time the US submarine freezes)))
      5. venik
        venik 27 March 2021 09: 06
        +10
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        Staged video of the show ..... Who filmed .... from which icebreaker the drone flew .....

        ======
        Aha! Another "fighter of the information front" drew ... bully
      6. japan-k
        japan-k 27 March 2021 10: 39
        +7
        What village did you come from ???
        do you really think that Russian scientists have enough intelligence, money and funds are enough to build nuclear submarines, and they could not load several UAVs into the submarine. Or do you think that only a UAV that is the size of an airplane can shoot ??? )))))
        1. Vladimir Mitin_2
          Vladimir Mitin_2 April 15 2021 15: 14
          0
          There is enough money, but there is no mind
      7. Podvodnik
        Podvodnik 27 March 2021 20: 10
        +3
        Staged video show


        Well, of course, we were preparing. What do you want? You sit by the hole, catch fish, take selfies with trophies and suddenly .... Mom dear !!! So?

        And the area was chosen, and a convenient place was chosen. They dropped off anyone in advance. The cost of a mistake is simply great. They insured themselves naturally.

        Regarding the setting, it is clear that everything is organized and marked. How else? BREAKER and your head on the ice?

        Pay attention to the first seconds of the video - you can see some kind of pole. A few meters from the wheelhouse. Maybe the lighthouse was lowered into the hole, or something. It is not necessary to make jokes. There, the guys with the landmarks got wet.
    2. svp67
      svp67 27 March 2021 08: 22
      +2
      Quote: From Tomsk
      The submarine could not surface for a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice

      So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?
      1. loki565
        loki565 27 March 2021 08: 42
        +10
        Of course, there are two options, either to fire a torpedo and float into the hole, or float quietly, but then manually clean the covers of the mines)))
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 27 March 2021 09: 33
        -9
        Of course, they are capable: they have a launch shaft right through the wheelhouse ... good
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 28 March 2021 17: 07
          -2
          Ah, yes, admirals in boots, minus on the fact of their appearance and directly on Zadornov: "Well, stupid !!"
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 29 March 2021 07: 39
            -1
            True, I do not expect anything else from the liberal trash :: this is their shiver before mobilization :: they know, the creatures that are on the front line, and just in the barracks, they can do a kirdyk with pleasure, as representatives of the 5th column.
      3. Grits
        Grits 27 March 2021 09: 48
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?

        And how to open the covers of the mines? So it turns out - what is the practical use for such a resurrection? Only for a communication session and a smoke in the cockpit.
        1. loki565
          loki565 27 March 2021 10: 17
          +10
          You take a chainsaw, a crowbar and clean it up, this is a common practice, even on sharks sometimes ice remained on the covers of the mines.
          1. Grits
            Grits 27 March 2021 14: 12
            0
            Quote: loki565
            You take a chainsaw, a crowbar and clean it up, this is a common practice, even on sharks sometimes ice remained on the covers of the mines.

            So after all, even the rocket deck above the water (ice) did not appear. Before taking the crowbars, you will have to put on diving suits.
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 27 March 2021 17: 28
              +3
              In these latitudes, the "Shark" was the owner. With its mass and buoyancy, it could surface almost everywhere.
              1. Bad_gr
                Bad_gr 27 March 2021 22: 10
                0
                Again the video was changed. I was posting it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUShFE79_iI
        2. svp67
          svp67 27 March 2021 11: 27
          -3
          Quote: Gritsa
          How to open the covers of the mines?

          Announce an ice-picking cleanup
          1. Grits
            Grits 27 March 2021 14: 14
            -2
            Quote: svp67
            Announce an ice-picking cleanup

            Such a subbotnik is most often carried out by all sailors and part of midshipmen who are not on duty. But for this it is necessary that the boat still surfaced, and did not show part of the deckhouse.
      4. Observer2014
        Observer2014 27 March 2021 10: 41
        -9
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: From Tomsk
        The submarine could not surface for a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice

        So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?

        It all depends on the task at hand: if an ICBM were fired, then there was no need to surface, but with cruise missiles. No. At this point it is clear that such a task cannot exist in those latitudes.
      5. ccsr
        ccsr 27 March 2021 11: 35
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?

        This question interests me very much, because in my opinion, it would be better for one boat to surface and make at least one launch - the effect on the whole world would be awesome.
        I don’t quite understand why it was necessary to risk and force three submarines to surface at once on such a small area, although as I understand it, this performance resembles the flight show of our Swifts, but in an underwater version. Of course, the skill of submariners is obvious, which means they can be entrusted with hidden patrols under the ice off the coast of Canada. So the submarine fleet should become the backbone of our Navy - only Timokhin and other alternatives, who are forty years behind, may not understand this.
      6. barclay
        barclay 29 March 2021 20: 04
        0
        Quote: svp67
        So I'm wondering, but our boats from this position were able to complete the task?

        So the same question haunts me. In theory, the rockets come out of the hull, which remained under the huge chunks of ice. For start-up, the doors of the mine must open. It is unlikely that this ice will allow it. If they open up, then a heap of fragments of this ice will be poured into the mine. Also, for sure, a safety violation.
        So, questions remain.
      7. Vladimir Mitin_2
        Vladimir Mitin_2 April 15 2021 15: 23
        0
        Two hours to clean the rocket deck by hand. and then shoot across Kamchatka. In wartime, no one will give such an opportunity - drown. Search for wormwood and shoot from there, or create wormwood by firing several torpedoes
    3. Avior
      Avior 27 March 2021 08: 40
      -5
      ... only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice.

      Sorry, have you watched the video for the article?
    4. 2534M
      2534M 27 March 2021 13: 05
      -6
      Quote: From Tomsk
      US Navy submarine Hartford is stuck in the ice of the Arctic during a tactical exercise that rehearsed scenarios for striking Russia. The submarine was unable to surface to carry out a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice. The incident took place last week, but it became known about it only now. A video with a stuck submarine, filmed by CNN, appeared on the web.

      tell me, YOU experience some special sensations when SO wassat enchantingly LACK SHASH lol and CARRY ACHINA? fool
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 27 March 2021 18: 45
        -1
        Quote: 2534M
        Quote: From Tomsk
        US Navy submarine Hartford is stuck in the ice of the Arctic during a tactical exercise that rehearsed scenarios for striking Russia. The submarine was unable to surface to carry out a conditional attack during the maneuvers of the US naval forces - only the wheelhouse was on the surface, and the hull itself was frozen into the ice. The incident took place last week, but it became known about it only now. A video with a stuck submarine, filmed by CNN, appeared on the web.

        tell me, YOU experience some special sensations when SO wassat enchantingly LACK SHASH lol and CARRY ACHINA? fool


        By the way, the person simply quoted the messages of our urya of media resources, and other individuals who, looking at similar teachings of the United States and Britain, wrote exactly this.

        He didn’t come up with it. it was invented by our so-called patriotic media ...
  2. 501Legion
    501Legion 27 March 2021 07: 32
    +21
    An impressive sight, especially the fact that the boats were close to each other. Well done submariners!
    1. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 27 March 2021 07: 56
      +4
      The sight is certainly impressive. But from a tactical point of view, finding the boats so close does not seem correct. So, theoretically, all three can be covered with a warhead at once.
      1. KCA
        KCA 27 March 2021 08: 09
        +15
        We surfaced, made sure that they were found and went out on the ice to smoke, stretch, wait until all three were covered with one warhead, so what? Or they surfaced, fired the prescribed number of missiles and went under the ice, I think this will be the case in a combat situation, but what they surfaced together just shows the class of crews and the coherence of actions.
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 March 2021 08: 42
          -7
          It will be more difficult with missiles, there are only wheelhouses on the surface, there seem to be no missiles there.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 27 March 2021 09: 39
            -5
            Here is another interesting thing: well, the Yankes will emerge, they will not have time to be chipped and drink tea, as these MiGs will snatch up and butcher a turtle like a boh !!! laughing laughing laughing yes
        2. Grits
          Grits 27 March 2021 09: 51
          0
          Quote: KCA
          Or they surfaced, fired the prescribed number of missiles and went under the ice, I think this will be the case in a combat situation

          How did they release them? How were the shaft covers lifted?
      2. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz 27 March 2021 08: 12
        +29
        I think there is no need to look for tactics or strategy here. Here is a clear demonstration of the possibilities. Well, a beautiful picture. Why not, actually?
        1. K298rtm
          K298rtm 27 March 2021 19: 30
          -3
          And what new were shown to us?
      3. Prisoner
        Prisoner 27 March 2021 08: 25
        +16
        It is rather a demonstration of the level of interaction and capabilities of our submarines. In a combat situation, most likely no one will perform such "acrobatic sketches".
        1. 2534M
          2534M 27 March 2021 13: 07
          -11%
          Quote: Captive
          This is more of a demonstration of the level of interaction.

          please tell me how such a SHOW (both ours and the Anglo-Saxon) affects the "level of interaction" lol
          1. Prisoner
            Prisoner 27 March 2021 13: 20
            +12
            Try to bring three submarines to the given points, synchronize their actions and that's it. The sailors have no questions. A lot is required for such a "show". It's not for you to move your backs on the dance floor in sync. Here you have to work and think.
      4. figwam
        figwam 27 March 2021 08: 40
        +22
        Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
        The sight is certainly impressive, but from a tactical point of view, finding the boats so close does not seem correct.

        It just showed who is the boss in the north.
        1. 2534M
          2534M 27 March 2021 13: 09
          -16%
          Quote: figvam
          It just showed who is the boss in the north.

          who is the owner in the north show:
          - the number of such exercises
          - from what year are they held
          - the number and DIFFICULTY of torpedo firing


          in this particular case, we have only "PUK IN WATER" (because 1 (ONE) torpedo is not even funny - this is NEGLIGENCE and a FIGURE LEAF)
          a bit of reality
          https://topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
          1. Stepan S
            Stepan S 27 March 2021 15: 03
            +1
            How did you get carried away, what happened? Did you expect such skill?
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      5. venik
        venik 27 March 2021 09: 15
        +1
        Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
        The sight is certainly impressive. But from a tactical point of view, finding the boats so close does not seem correct. So, theoretically, all three can be covered with a warhead at once.

        =======
        And you Indeed do you think that in wartime, someone will be engaged in such "tricks" ?? belay fool
      6. Gray-haired
        Gray-haired 27 March 2021 21: 45
        -1
        PaschEnko! You are more careful with your "head" - "So, theoretically, all three can be covered with a warhead at once." The main thing is to wash off
        Xia!
    2. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 27 March 2021 08: 38
      -11%
      To me, an amateur, it is not clear what the practical significance of the maneuver with a simultaneous ascent is. If we are talking about the marine analogue of the tank biathlon, then it is understandable. Show a spectacular trick to the "most respectable public"? It is clear that the boat commanders showed excellent coordination - yes. But will this still be used in a real war?
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 27 March 2021 09: 23
        +6
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        But will this still be used in a real war?

        Well, then why do they hold parades? In a real war, after all, a variety of equipment on Red Square will not be assembled.
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 March 2021 10: 38
          +2
          The contender was actually ...
      2. japan-k
        japan-k 27 March 2021 10: 43
        -1
        Here you understand what the point is, if there was no video, then our Western "friends" would say that Russia is a gas station country, it does not have an effective fleet.
        And if they showed one boat, they would say that there can be only one, etc.
        1. 2534M
          2534M 27 March 2021 13: 12
          -15%
          Quote: japan-k
          And if they showed one boat, they would say that there can be only one, etc.

          You did not understand
          The FACT is that after ... years HORIZED to carry out something similar to the ICEX of the Anglo-Saxons, we STURTED ON 1 (ONE) torpedo shot
          1. Stepan S
            Stepan S 27 March 2021 15: 04
            +2
            What is it that punishes you so? And who will collect the torpedoes under the ice? Do you think this is an easy task?
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      3. poquello
        poquello 27 March 2021 12: 16
        -4
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        But will this still be used in a real war?

        and smoke in the fresh air in a real war? It is clear that if they shoot back, it is no longer necessary to break the ice, there will be holes for mbr and so on, because ours shoot from under the ice.
        1. mvg
          mvg 28 March 2021 00: 45
          +4
          for ours are shooting from under the ice.

          If only from a pistol to the temple ... Well, you can't be like that in life, to put it mildly ... narrow-minded. wassat
          1. poquello
            poquello 28 March 2021 01: 16
            -2
            Quote: mvg
            for ours are shooting from under the ice.

            If only from a pistol to the temple ... Well, you can't be like that in life, to put it mildly ... narrow-minded. wassat

            for the distant there is a lower quote, if I still throw in a little
      4. 2534M
        2534M 27 March 2021 13: 10
        -6
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        To me, an amateur, it is not clear what the practical meaning of the maneuver with a simultaneous ascent is. If we are talking about the marine analogue of the tank biathlon, then it is understandable.

        Yes it is
        and it is not so much we who are doing this (here we are catching up) but the Anglo-Saxons
    3. Professor
      Professor 27 March 2021 08: 51
      -35%
      Quote: 501Legion
      An impressive sight, especially the fact that the boats were close to each other. Well done submariners!

      That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 27 March 2021 09: 49
        +8

        Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
        Today, 08: 51
        NEW

        -9
        Quote: 501Legion
        An impressive sight, especially the fact that the boats were close to each other. Well done submariners!

        That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.
        This is not for you to bomb Syria from Lebanon, by jackals. angry fool laughing
        1. Professor
          Professor 27 March 2021 09: 53
          -22%
          Quote: aszzz888
          This is not for you to bomb Syria from Lebanon, by jackals.

          For the first time in the world? lol
          Quote: aszzz888
          For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!! good drinks soldier

          Hurrah! tongue
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 27 March 2021 09: 57
            +14
            professor (Sokolov Oleg)
            Today, 09:53 .....
            These are the ones who could not get out without a sawmill and were saved by the whole world? tongue laughing lol pi.si. and at the same time the ice thickness is comparable ... tongue
            1. Professor
              Professor 27 March 2021 10: 08
              -23%
              Quote: aszzz888
              professor (Sokolov Oleg)
              Today, 09:53 .....
              These are the ones who could not get out without a sawmill and were saved by the whole world? tongue laughing lol pi.si. and at the same time the ice thickness is comparable ... tongue

              Not "Hurray" anymore? Not a "first in the world"? laughing
              The funny thing is that the bourgeois also have a British boat that sailed into the trio. Count up, international cooperation. lol


              PS
              No chainsaw found? Druzhba ceased to be produced, and import substitution did not work? crying
              1. aszzz888
                aszzz888 27 March 2021 10: 11
                -1
                professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                Today, 09: 53

                The US submarine froze into the ice, working out ... - Gazeta.Ruwww.gazeta.ru ›army› 2018/03/22
                US submarine froze into the ice, practicing "strikes on Russia" American submarines froze into the Arctic ice ... ura.news ›news

                wassat tongue tongue
                1. Professor
                  Professor 27 March 2021 10: 13
                  -14%

                  Where are they frozen? Don't fantasize. The ICEX 2018 exercise took place on a regular basis. fellow
                  1. aszzz888
                    aszzz888 27 March 2021 10: 14
                    +2
                    read not only Jewish media pi.si.
                    The US submarine froze into the ice, working out ... - Эхо Москвы
                    even the liberoid media did not lie tongue
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 27 March 2021 10: 19
                      -11%
                      Quote: aszzz888
                      read not only Jewish media

                      You sat in a puddle. Uryayayayayayayayayayaya yelled as much as possible, and now merge like a child. Once again, the ICEX 2018 exercise took place on a regular basis. Accept reality and live with it further.
                      https://portal.ct.gov/OMA/In-the-News/2018-News/Navy-Kicks-Off-ICEX-2018

                      https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/1464840/arctic-deployed-navy-submarines-participate-in-ice-exercise-2018/

                      https://www.dvidshub.net/feature/ICEX2018

                      1. aszzz888
                        aszzz888 27 March 2021 10: 22
                        0

                        Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                        Once again, the ICEX 2018 exercise took place on a regular basis.
                        A US submarine froze into the ice while practicing "strikes ... www.rosbalt.ru› world ›2018/03/22
                        22 Mar 2018 - US submarine Hartford is stuck in the Arctic ice during a training exercise, including for the confrontation with ...

                        The US submarine froze into the ice, working out ... - Gazeta.Ruwww.gazeta.ru ›army› 2018/03/22
                        The US submarine froze into the ice, practicing "strikes against Russia" ... The American submarine Hartford in the ice of the Arctic.
                        Mar 22 2018 year

                        American submarines are frozen in the Arctic ice ... ura.news ›news
                        22 Mar 2018 - Two US Navy nuclear-powered submarines, Hartford and Connecticut, are stuck in the Arctic ice during the ICEX 2018 exercise ...
                        do you have more facts, or enough? tongue fool tongue
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 27 March 2021 10: 24
                        -10%
                        Quote: aszzz888
                        do you have more facts, or enough?

                        Facts? You haven't brought a single one yet. Come on at least one wink
                      3. aszzz888
                        aszzz888 27 March 2021 10: 27
                        +2
                        professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                        Today, 10: 24
                        now it's not for me. Or are dispensaries expensive in Israel for such? Not enough shekels from the training manuals?
                      4. Professor
                        Professor 27 March 2021 10: 28
                        -12%
                        Quote: aszzz888
                        professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                        Today, 10: 24
                        now it's not for me. Or are the Ispansers expensive in Israel for such? Not enough shekels from the training manuals?

                        You do not merge, but give the facts. I give you the facts (https://www.dvidshub.net/feature/ICEX2018), and you ... wassat
                      5. aszzz888
                        aszzz888 27 March 2021 10: 32
                        +1
                        professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                        Today, 10: 28 ...
                        you haven’t presented me with one fact yet. wassat except for cribs and extracts from the house book tongue
                      6. Professor
                        Professor 27 March 2021 10: 41
                        -13%
                        Quote: aszzz888
                        professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                        Today, 10: 28 ...
                        you haven’t presented me with one fact yet. wassat except for cribs and extracts from the house book tongue

                        Do not merge, but come on data confirming your fantasies.
                        YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!! wassat
                      7. aszzz888
                        aszzz888 27 March 2021 11: 03
                        +2

                        Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                        Today, 10: 41

                        -1
                        Quote: aszzz888
                        professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                        Today, 10: 28 ...
                        you haven’t presented me with one fact yet. wassat except for cribs and extracts from the house book tongue

                        Don't merge come on facts confirming your fantasies.
                        YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!! wassat
                        "Boring girls!" tongue pi. si.
                        I understand ... your unhappy life in the USSR, free education (perhaps even eight years) flight to Israel, where payment is only from the manuals ... poke your nose (just not hard! laughing , and although what a difference!) you look and it will come. Yes, there is a Russian proverb about God's dew ... etc. So this is about you, my young friend. Adieu! tongue
                      8. Professor
                        Professor 27 March 2021 11: 09
                        -13%
                        Quote: aszzz888

                        Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                        Today, 10: 41

                        -1
                        Quote: aszzz888
                        professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                        Today, 10: 28 ...
                        you haven’t presented me with one fact yet. wassat except for cribs and extracts from the house book tongue

                        Don't merge come on facts confirming your fantasies.
                        YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!! wassat
                        "Boring girls!" tongue pi. si.
                        I understand ... your unhappy life in the USSR, free education (perhaps even eight years) flight to Israel, where payment is only from the manuals ... poke your nose (just not hard! laughing , and although what a difference!) you look and it will come. Yes, there is a Russian proverb about God's dew ... etc. So this is about you, my young friend. Adieu! tongue

                        The drain is counted. hi
                        Uryayayayayayaya. For the first time in the world. wassat
                      9. aszzz888
                        aszzz888 27 March 2021 11: 14
                        0
                        professor (Sukolov Oleg)
                        Today, 11: 09
                        look at your leisure in the ward -
                        «Chill out Vasya!"- Russian comedy film
                      10. Professor
                        Professor 27 March 2021 11: 18
                        -10%
                        Quote: aszzz888
                        look at your leisure in the ward -

                        Quote: aszzz888
                        Hurrah!

                        laughing
              2. 2534M
                2534M 27 March 2021 13: 15
                -8
                Quote: aszzz888
                you haven’t presented me with more than one fact

                Have an optometrist for a long time?
                YOUR opponent said everything is clear to YOU
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 27 March 2021 10: 30
          +7
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: aszzz888
          do you have more facts, or enough?

          Facts? You haven't brought a single one yet. Come on at least one wink

          Well, not messages your own mediaand a bedtime story winked
          ... Since March 7 this year. in the Arctic, the joint exercises "ICEX 2018" are held by the navies of the United States, Great Britain, Canada and Norway. ...
          ... At first, the guidance system malfunctioned, and the preparation for the launch of the missiles was considerably delayed. And then the communication and navigation systems were completely frozen at the same time.
          What does a formidable submarine with missiles on board in the Arctic ice turn into without these important elements? That's right, in a tin can, which is tightly frozen in the Arctic Ocean.
          It was not without the help of a helicopter and qualified personnel from the outside.
          This is not the first case for the US Navy, which puts them in an even more uncomfortable position.
          US servicemen defrost their submarine fleet in 2011 and 2015. Then the newest boat "Seawolf" fell into the "ice trap".
        3. Professor
          Professor 27 March 2021 10: 40
          -13%
          Quote: Terenin
          Well, not your own media reports, but a bedtime story

          Our (my) media?
          The exercises took place on a regular basis:
          https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/1464840/arctic-deployed-navy-submarines-participate-in-ice-exercise-2018/

          https://portal.ct.gov/OMA/In-the-News/2018-News/Navy-Kicks-Off-ICEX-2018

          By the way, an interesting fact is that the bourgeois have been carrying out under-ice Arctic transitions since the 1940s, when the American platform Boarfish on August 1, 1947 passed with an ice laboratory under the ice into the Chukchi Sea.
          In 1958, the nuclear submarine Nautilus first crossed the Arctic Ocean under the pack ice. The first surfacing in the Arctic was made by the Skate submarine in March 1959. The Sargo submarine was the first submarine to cross the Bering Strait in winter in 1960.
        4. poquello
          poquello 27 March 2021 12: 09
          +3
          Quote: Professor
          The exercises took place on a regular basis:

          Quote: Terenin
          It was not without the help of a helicopter and qualified personnel from the outside.

          American boats have an ice pick team
        5. Professor
          Professor 27 March 2021 13: 01
          -9
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Professor
          The exercises took place on a regular basis:

          Quote: Terenin
          It was not without the help of a helicopter and qualified personnel from the outside.

          American boats have an ice pick team

          Look at past ascents in the wormwood. There are always crowbars and chainsaws at the team. They can afford it.

          Here are the ICEX 2020 teachings


          Compilation
        6. poquello
          poquello 27 March 2021 13: 24
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          There are always crowbars and chainsaws at the team. They can afford it.

          more precisely, without them, they cannot, as well as shoot from under the ice
        7. Professor
          Professor 27 March 2021 14: 10
          -10%
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Professor
          There are always crowbars and chainsaws at the team. They can afford it.

          more precisely, without them, they cannot, as well as shoot from under the ice

          Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?

          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Professor
          By the way, an interesting fact is that the bourgeois have been carrying out under-ice Arctic transitions since the 1940s.

          and there the reason seemed to be different, ours with the air had a strong lag

          Not. Ice laboratory.
        8. poquello
          poquello 27 March 2021 14: 23
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Professor
          There are always crowbars and chainsaws at the team. They can afford it.

          more precisely, without them, they cannot, as well as shoot from under the ice

          Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?

          without surfacing at all, the United States does not know how
          Quote: Professor

          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Professor
          By the way, an interesting fact is that the bourgeois have been carrying out under-ice Arctic transitions since the 1940s.

          and there the reason seemed to be different, ours with the air had a strong lag

          Not. Ice laboratory.

          well, figs knows, I'm reluctant to dig now, our pilots had a very small move without surfacing, so they scored before the time
        9. Professor
          Professor 27 March 2021 15: 02
          -5
          Quote: poquello
          without surfacing at all, the United States does not know how

          Nobody can do that.
        10. poquello
          poquello 27 March 2021 15: 15
          +5
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: poquello
          without surfacing at all, the United States does not know how

          Nobody can do that.

          ) Duc if not the United States then this is not))))))))))))))))))))))
          During the tests, they confirmed their ability to pierce an ice-hole in any hummocks in the right place. These special munitions are necessary to ensure the launch of strategic missiles from an underwater state, as well as the rise to the surface of pop-up rescue capsules, with the help of which crews are evacuated in case of an accident.
    4. Insurgent
      Insurgent 28 March 2021 13: 28
      +2
      Quote: Professor
      Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?


      It is possible, if skillfully, based on technology.

      https://topwar.ru/167070-rossijskie-apl-poluchat-specialnye-rakety-dlja-vzloma-lda-v-arktike.html
    5. Professor
      Professor 28 March 2021 17: 21
      -3
      Quote: Insurgent
      Quote: Professor
      Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?


      It is possible, if skillfully, based on technology.

      https://topwar.ru/167070-rossijskie-apl-poluchat-specialnye-rakety-dlja-vzloma-lda-v-arktike.html

      Russian nuclear submarines get special rockets for breaking ice in the Arctic
      January 24 2020

      Received?
    6. Insurgent
      Insurgent 29 March 2021 07: 46
      0
      Quote: Professor
      Received?

      It is clear what kind of "professor" you are yes ... Are you getting out? But this was a response to your comment, not a "received-not received":
      Quote: Professor
      Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?


      Is there a way (possibility) to shoot from under the ice "differently" or not?
    7. Professor
      Professor 29 March 2021 08: 15
      +1
      Quote: Insurgent
      Quote: Professor
      Received?

      It is clear what kind of "professor" you are yes ... Are you getting out? But this was a response to your comment, not a "received-not received":
      Quote: Professor
      Is it possible to shoot differently from under the ice?


      Is there a way (possibility) to shoot from under the ice "differently" or not?

      That is, for now no way to shoot from under the ice. I rest my case. hi
    8. Insurgent
      Insurgent 29 March 2021 08: 18
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      That is, there is no way to shoot from under the ice yet. I rest my case.

      "professor", your previous answer with "jumping off topic", completely discouraged the desire to conduct any dialogue with you.

      In short ... How is it in the sonnet? "Chill out Vasya" ?
    9. Professor
      Professor 29 March 2021 10: 56
      +1
      What I was talking about. None of this (shoot from under the ice) can not.
      They are only working on this and will be able to cope with it, it is not clear. It is not enough just to break through the ice before launching the rocket, it still needs to be cleared in order to avoid the rocket colliding with the ice debris. hi
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  4. poquello
    poquello 27 March 2021 15: 18
    +3
    Quote: 2534M
    Quote: poquello
    more precisely, without them, they cannot, as well as shoot from under the ice

    don't bullshit hurt her
    they do not shoot ROCKETS from under the ice
    stupid because they DO NOT NEED IT

    After receiving the command to use weapons, they are obliged to execute it as soon as possible. And ice should not be a hindrance for this. Making a hole is one of the tactical techniques that allows you to carry out a missile attack at the right time.

    Quote: 2534M
    Have you tried a snack?
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  6. poquello
    poquello 27 March 2021 15: 23
    +5
    Quote: 2534M
    MUSIER, AN OPPONENT DOESN'T NEED TO FLY ROCKETS UNDER ICE
    AND THEY DO NOT DO IT

    this makes me happy
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  8. poquello
    poquello 27 March 2021 13: 14
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    By the way, an interesting fact is that the bourgeois have been carrying out under-ice Arctic transitions since the 1940s.

    and there the reason seemed to be different, ours with the air had a strong lag
  9. 2534M
    2534M 27 March 2021 13: 14
    -14%
    Quote: Terenin
    a bedtime story ... Then the newest boat "Seawolf" fell into the "ice trap".

    fool
    do not drugs wassat drag to the forum
    uncle Styopa will scold lol
  10. 2534M
    2534M 27 March 2021 13: 16
    -14%
    Quote: aszzz888
    Two nuclear-powered submarines of the US Navy - Hartford and Connecticut - got stuck in the Arctic ice during the ICEX 2018 exercise. In the course ... are you more facts, or enough?

    Monsieur, these are not YOUR "facts" wassat and NARCOTA fool
  11. gurzuf
    gurzuf 27 March 2021 14: 42
    +1
    So Biden regularly nays ... on the ladder! The whole world has seen.
  • Terenin
    Terenin 27 March 2021 10: 23
    +6
    Quote: Professor
    No chainsaw found? Druzhba ceased to be produced, and import substitution did not work?

    Why should we cut the snow with "Friendship"?
  • Tusv
    Tusv 27 March 2021 10: 19
    +5
    Quote: Professor
    That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.

    Not well. In honor of the re-election of Mr. B.B., three times 16 times, should we salute from these submarines? Not ShiningA thick allusion to Butusov's song "Goodbye America. O. Where I Will Never Be" was sent to the yawning hail on the hill.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 27 March 2021 11: 05
      +3

      Tusv (Vladimir)
      Today, 10: 19

      +2
      Quote: Professor
      That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.

      Not well. In honor of the re-election of Mr. B.B., three times 16 times, should we salute from these submarines?
      So he did not think, as always. He has such a job)) wink
  • 2534M
    2534M 27 March 2021 13: 13
    -5
    Quote: Professor
    There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side.

    small yes - emergency assistance
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 27 March 2021 14: 42
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    That's exactly what a sight to behold. There is no practical benefit from the ascent of 3 boats side by side. Only an unnecessary risk for show.

    The captain of the atomic Israeli submarine under the military nickname "Professor" knows the final best. After all, he has several extreme ascents from under the ice of Antarctica. Continue to share your invaluable experience in naval affairs, "professor." bully
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      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 27 March 2021 15: 00
        +3
        Quote: 2534M
        the form corresponding in the closet does not hang

        I had different shapes in the closet ... But what is bothering you?
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          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 27 March 2021 15: 24
            +5
            Quote: 2534M
            clear

            and what do you understand? curious... repeat
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              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 27 March 2021 15: 34
                +4
                Quote: 2534M
                I would be very glad to YOUR instinct
                on Jews

                Is this your photo? Or what? By the way, about the different uniforms in the closet ... Well, for example ... Here is a friend of mine served in the SA as a tanker, then served in the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then was the head of one of the special power units in the drug control agency. And each time the shape was different. This is an example for the gifted, like you. hi
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                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 27 March 2021 15: 39
                    +3
                    Quote: 2534M
                    no, "especially gifted" here YOU
                    such a scent!

                    y-yes .. it stinks from you (specifically) notably ... request
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                  3. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 27 March 2021 16: 44
                    +2
                    Quote: 2534M
                    And YOUR "thin nose" (on the Jews) let you down this time - I'm not a Jew

                    I understand you are an "intellectual". wassat
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                  5. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 27 March 2021 17: 03
                    +2
                    Quote: 2534M
                    i'm anti-ship
                    on education and upbringing
                    and YOU didn't understand anything

                    He got into someone else's conversation, called him a Nazi (completely unsubstantiated, based on some of his conjectures, well, just like Psaki), although I did not even enter into an argument with you about submarines and torpedoes.
                    For me, so "very educated intellectual". good
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                  7. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 27 March 2021 17: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: 2534M
                    I asked a question about YOUR talents in "remote sniffing of Jews" - as stated by YOURSELF, PERSONALLY

                    I wonder where I said this personally? intellectual, you are our nervous ...
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                  9. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 27 March 2021 18: 48
                    +2
                    So what?! Well, you are an intellectual !!! laughing
  • demo
    demo 27 March 2021 09: 36
    0
    Not just impressive, but surreal.
    How foreign the black case looks against the background of white ice and snow.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 27 March 2021 07: 33
    +14
    Barbarians. And why didn't they start cutting the ice civilized with a chainsaw?
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 27 March 2021 07: 36
      +8
      Gasoline is expensive ...
    2. Dimy4
      Dimy4 27 March 2021 07: 38
      +10
      Chainsaw is not civilized, it has exhaust, you need either electric or two-handed, one on top, the second on the bottom. lol
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 27 March 2021 08: 08
        +3
        I vote for the "two-handed" -ecological ...
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 27 March 2021 09: 55
          -2
          [quote] [I vote for "two-handed" -ecological ... / quote] ....... recklessly ... a two-handed tooth can break off and northern animals are extremely inquisitive to sample an object other than snow and ice, eat a broken tooth from the saw and that's it ... the population will die out .. it's not much there anyway ... LAZAREACH SHOOT IS NECESSARY TO SAW ... LAZAREM
          1. Alien From
            Alien From 27 March 2021 09: 59
            0
            Would the laser be powered from the reactor?
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 27 March 2021 10: 11
              -1
              Would the laser be powered from the reactor?
              ..... and what ... there is overexposure from a diesel engine burns not sickly ... but from a nuclear pressure cooker so generally there should be tin
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 27 March 2021 07: 38
      +10
      Quote: Cowbra
      Barbarians. And why didn't they start cutting the ice civilized with a chainsaw?

      I look at it with admiration.
      This is a submarine, not an icebreaker.
      Many years and health to those who are still alive from those involved in the creation of these ships.
    4. aszzz888
      aszzz888 27 March 2021 07: 46
      +3

      Cowbra
      Today, 07: 33
      NEW
      +3
      Barbarians. And why didn't they start cutting the ice civilized with a chainsaw?
      Let's leave these actions to the Merikatos, wink because they are not capable of anything else. Hello Cowbra

      hi
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 27 March 2021 08: 01
        +5
        Dobrego hi Do you think PentaNoga has already scribbled a statement from penguins torn by bears? No, I know that they are not found there, but either I, or Psaki ...
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 27 March 2021 09: 54
          0

          Cowbra
          Today, 08: 01
          NEW

          +1
          Good hi Do you think that PentaNoga has already scribbled a statement from penguins torn by bears? No, I know that they are not found there, but either I, or Psaki ...
          Hike, the Merikatos are now in a complete stupor. How to explain to the can, (the chief of the mericastoi with his brains and memory) WHERE it happened, WHEN, and under what circumstances. laughing Psaki twists HIS globe (she has a large cage!), Looking for an answer ...
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    5. Prisoner
      Prisoner 27 March 2021 08: 27
      +3
      The primordial laziness of the Russian peasant, EPRST. laughing It should be hunchbacked when God gave people the strength of Archimedes? laughing
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 27 March 2021 10: 35
        +5
        Quote: Captive
        The primordial laziness of the Russian peasant, EPRST.

        Because of this Russian laziness, many "exceptional" and "thugs" still have the opportunity to live. So let them rejoice.
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 27 March 2021 12: 23
          -1
          These underdeveloped jackals lack intelligence to understand this. So they are teasing the bear.
    6. Denis Rumyanny
      Denis Rumyanny 27 March 2021 08: 46
      -22%
      The main thing is to loudly poke the whole world.
      1. loki565
        loki565 27 March 2021 08: 57
        +15
        The main thing is to loudly poke the whole world.

        Yeah, especially in the comments)))
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 27 March 2021 10: 40
        +4
        Quote: Denis Rumyanny
        The main thing is to loudly poke the whole world.

        Are the exceptional ones afraid of going out of orbit? winked That's right, be afraid!
      3. Prisoner
        Prisoner 27 March 2021 12: 24
        +2
        And you have a feline bunch. Don’t be overstrained, lad, you’re going to sleep on your trousers.
        1. Denis Rumyanny
          Denis Rumyanny 27 March 2021 14: 34
          -7
          Satisfied with the Tantrums of the Putriots
        2. gurzuf
          gurzuf 27 March 2021 14: 52
          +2
          laughing So they are always like this! Without taking off the trousers.
    7. venik
      venik 27 March 2021 09: 16
      0
      Quote: Cowbra
      Barbarians. And why didn't they start cutting the ice civilized with a chainsaw?

      =====
      Gasoline has run out! wassat
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 27 March 2021 07: 35
    +18
    And the name of the expedition is remarkable - "Umka" and its purpose: Russia is strengthening in the Arctic.

    And such a simultaneous ascent on such a limited space, in my opinion, was carried out for the first time - a sample of skill.
    1. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 27 March 2021 08: 36
      +6
      ... sample of craftsmanship


      Also a model of interaction and organization.
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                2. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 27 March 2021 20: 03
                  0
                  Quote: 2534M
                  are you generally able to answer for your words?

                  actually here I am, in blue. come and ask questions personally. I will try to answer
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                4. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 27 March 2021 20: 15
                  0
                  you are an internet coward. request Well, let everyone see and read you now. and they know who you are. wink
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 27 March 2021 07: 35
    +3
    Class! Everything is white around, and it is not clear where the ice ends and the sky begins. Silence is all around, only the wind whistles.
  • Bez 310
    Bez 310 27 March 2021 07: 39
    +1
    I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
    group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 27 March 2021 07: 48
      +3
      Information warfare is also a war.
    2. Most kind
      Most kind 27 March 2021 07: 51
      +1
      They also have an acre of torpedoes and missiles, three rocket carriers emerged and fired at the decision-making centers, the launch sites were tracked, and there are already three holes, to deliver or pick up 300 Spartans. Few? I forgot, they also took the cargo from the bottom.
      1. bar
        bar 27 March 2021 08: 16
        0
        Quote: Most Kind
        missiles are available, three missile carriers emerged and fired

        How do they burst if the hatches are covered with ice? 1,5 meters is not a cat sneezing. All personnel to clean for half a day ...
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 27 March 2021 08: 34
          -1
          The ice over the hatches is already pokotsan, you can clearly see from the video. As for the opening of the lid - a column of broken ice of 1,5 meters weighs an order of magnitude and hook less than a column of water during an underwater launch))) IMHO. of course, but it’s for rent, you can go to the extreme.
          1. Avior
            Avior 27 March 2021 08: 45
            +4
            For this, the shaft is first filled with water so that the water column above the hatch does not press.
            This number will not work with ice.
        2. Grits
          Grits 27 March 2021 10: 00
          +2
          Quote: bar
          How do they burst if the hatches are covered with ice? 1,5 meters is not a cat sneezing. All personnel to clean for half a day ...

          So after all, even the hump of the rocket deck did not appear - what to clean then? In that case, you can't fire the missiles ...
          You can dive BH (no move). And then again ascend with the blowing of the ballast tanks. Then the ice will partly fly away and you can float up completely, and not along the deckhouse.
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 27 March 2021 08: 07
      +1
      Quote: Bez 310
      I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
      group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component

      Advertising is not bad either, but what about helping? One other? A crew member got sick, or something ...
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 27 March 2021 08: 11
        +2
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        but to provide help? One other?

        I asked to answer "specialists" ...
        1. Grits
          Grits 27 March 2021 10: 01
          +5
          Quote: Bez 310
          I asked to answer "specialists" ...

          The answer is that all the benefits of such an emergence are only for a communication session. Combat work - zero.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 27 March 2021 10: 52
            -3
            Quote: Gritsa
            Quote: Bez 310
            I asked to answer "specialists" ...

            The answer is that all the benefits of such an emergence are only for a communication session. Combat work - zero.

            His "experts" and authorities, judging by the photo, are different.
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 27 March 2021 10: 55
              -2
              Quote: Terenin
              His "experts" and authorities, judging by the photo, are different.

              No need to become a commentator!
              If there is nothing to answer the question asked, do not
              interfere with answering "specialists".
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 27 March 2021 11: 02
                -3
                Quote: Bez 310
                Quote: Terenin
                His "experts" and authorities, judging by the photo, are different.

                No need to become a commentator!
                If there is nothing to answer the question asked, do not
                interfere with answering "specialists".

                Something I do not see your comments on the topic, but a continuous low-grade trolling.
    4. bar
      bar 27 March 2021 08: 14
      +1
      Quote: Bez 310
      I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this

      Also interesting. You won't be able to launch the rockets, the hatches of the mines under the ice won't open ... recourse
    5. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 27 March 2021 08: 20
      +18
      . what is the meaning of this
      group "maneuver


      Practicing joint maneuvering and interaction. It is useless to use weapons. We were very close. They can get in the way. The very emergence in ice allows you to acquire skills in the use of weapons in high latitudes. This is difficult. The whole crew is "on the nerves".
      The video shows the thickness of the ice. It's hard to empty the rocket deck. You can't do without a tool. And in the state it is generally not. It is necessary to take it "specially". There are no regular storage locations.
      The Americans in such conditions will not be able to do anything at all. The buoyancy margin is small. They sit low.
      Our ice was broken. The deck is difficult to clean, but possible.
      This event is even difficult to organize, much less to carry out. The experience gained is invaluable.
      This should be done constantly, and not once in decades. It is necessary to know the capabilities of equipment and crews. Let's put aside the advertising component and just say: "GOOD MEN!"
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 27 March 2021 08: 37
        -2
        Quote: Podvodnik
        Practicing joint maneuvering and interaction. It is useless to use weapons.

        And what is the meaning of "joint maneuvering" of SSBNs?
        1. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 27 March 2021 10: 13
          +7
          And what is the meaning of "joint maneuvering" of SSBNs?


          Not to forget how ZPS works, though. And joint maneuvering in general. Several SSBNs are optional. Here, after all, we went out very precisely to the place. We made an ascent with a hindrance. This is the organization of lighting the situation, maneuvering in cramped conditions. Found, for example, a wormwood, as if it had surfaced in it. Or they received information about her. The point is in organizing and implementing an event, practicing skills. Joint maneuvering as an element only. Can we? We were able to. We got experience. It will not be superfluous. Apply if necessary. Situations can be different, not necessarily combat.
          1. Avior
            Avior 27 March 2021 11: 29
            -4
            And joint maneuvering in general. Several SSBNs are optional.

            It would be more correct to say it is not necessary, but simply criminal. Either negligence, or treason. Three SSBNs together :(
            The point is in organizing and implementing an event, practicing skills. Joint maneuvering as an element only. Can we? We were able to. We got experience. It will not be superfluous. Apply if necessary.

            Agree, this is if all these maneuvers were carried out by standard means of boats.
            And if a kind soul :), for example, before going out to the area, she drilled holes in the ice and put some beacons under the ice or created the conditions by some other non-standard method - what will this give the crew in a real situation when there are no beacons?
            1. Podvodnik
              Podvodnik 27 March 2021 18: 10
              +1
              but simply criminal.


              Evmenov's plan is unknown to me. Maybe he plans to create a protected positioning area in the Arctic. Cables with hydrophones are stretched, air defense is tightened, appropriate forces and means. Let them train.

              some beacons under the ice

              Maybe. In combat conditions, just how to apply it? To mark polynyas and divorces?
              In fact, advertising is present. In combat conditions, maneuvering at such distances is impossible. Why they worked it out, I do not understand. So after all, and on the shore, it was clearly not one day preparing.
              One thing is clear. They conceived something, decided to check and work it out. They will draw conclusions, reward the guilty, punish those who are not involved.
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          2. 2534M
            2534M 27 March 2021 13: 19
            -8
            Quote: Podvodnik
            practicing skills. Joint maneuvering as an element only.

            a question in a tactical sense
            1. Podvodnik
              Podvodnik 27 March 2021 18: 18
              +2
              a question in a tactical sense


              At first glance, it makes no sense. Three SSBNs in one place? They wanted to work out something and test it in practice. Maybe new tactics are being tested. In fact, even surface watermen at such distances are tense to maneuver. What can we say about the submariners. Go to the point with an error of 10 meters, stand on the depth stabilizer without moving, ice up and, on command (or time "h"), blow out the tanks. And the boat is inertial. And for sure there is a flow. But they did it. And already well done just for this reason.
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    6. Tusv
      Tusv 27 March 2021 10: 41
      0
      Quote: Bez 310
      I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
      group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component?

      A. There is only an advertising component. Three wheelhouses are three by sixteen times three by warheads. And that was in the Arctic. Flight time with gulkin's nose. Theirs SM - 3 will not even have time to start when the polar fox arrives
      1. Avior
        Avior 27 March 2021 11: 31
        +1
        Three cabinets are three by sixteen times three by warheads.

        Only MANPADS are fired from the wheelhouse, and there is one warhead, or signal flares. Anything more from the deckhouse will not work.
        hi
        1. poquello
          poquello 27 March 2021 17: 45
          0
          Quote: Avior
          Three cabinets are three by sixteen times three by warheads.

          Only MANPADS are fired from the wheelhouse, and there is one warhead, or signal flares. Anything more from the deckhouse will not work.
          hi

          and what, is it frozen?
    7. Terenin
      Terenin 27 March 2021 10: 51
      +2
      Quote: Bez 310
      I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
      group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component?

      Yes, in such a "trifle" as in the existence of Russia as a sovereign state (its independence in the external sphere).
      Or did you, after the blackened eye, have recaptured your historical memory?
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 27 March 2021 11: 48
        0
        Quote: Terenin
        Or did you, after the blackened eye, have recaptured your historical memory?
        Yes, the pseudo-righteous never understand that the oath given to the Soviet Union is as true as to swear allegiance to Imperial Russia
    8. 2534M
      2534M 27 March 2021 13: 18
      -11%
      Quote: Bez 310
      I would like to know from the "specialists" - what is the meaning of this
      group "maneuver", well ... except for the advertising component?

      1. "advertising" (and we are here catching up with the Anglo-Saxons)
      2.Assistance in an emergency
  • jonht
    jonht 27 March 2021 07: 42
    0
    Interestingly, cocoa torpedoes were shot, old or physicist?
    1. 2534M
      2534M 27 March 2021 13: 20
      -7
      Quote: jonht
      Interestingly, cocoa torpedoes were shot, old or physicist?

      or "Physicist" or "Kant"
      there will be an article where I will expand both options
      but which one was - I’ll keep quiet for now
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 March 2021 07: 44
    +1
    For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!! good drinks soldier
    1. xorek
      xorek 27 March 2021 08: 04
      -7
      Quote: aszzz888
      For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!! good drinks soldier

      Joining the sheriff !!!! good soldier
    2. Professor
      Professor 27 March 2021 09: 00
      -11%
      Quote: aszzz888
      For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!! good drinks soldier

      Yeah. For the first time in the world lol
      American submarines from left to right: USS Connecticut, USS Hartford, HMS Trenchant in 2018.


      1. Runway
        Runway 27 March 2021 10: 11
        +2
        Well, yes, not the First. Although the Yankees have thinner ice.
        1. xorek
          xorek 27 March 2021 13: 44
          -1
          Quote: WFP
          Well, yes, not the First. Although the Yankees have thinner ice.

          Well, it was like that, the poor somehow cut it out ..

          We didn’t try anymore ..
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            1. xorek
              xorek 27 March 2021 15: 02
              -2
              Quote: 2534M
              Quote: xorek
              Well, it was like that, the poor somehow cut it out ..

              fool
              STOP GETTING BACKGROUND AND CARRYING THE ACHINA OF THE LUMINOUS-ILLITERATE SMY wassat

              What's so nervous? You could just write .. wink
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      2. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 27 March 2021 10: 18
        +6
        Quote: Professor
        Yeah. For the first time in the world lol
        American submarines from left to right: USS Connecticut, USS Hartford, HMS Trenchant in 2018.

        And that before that, someone in the world had already arranged the simultaneous emergence of three Russian submarines in the Arctic?
        1. Professor
          Professor 27 March 2021 10: 22
          -3
          Quote: Narak-zempo
          Quote: Professor
          Yeah. For the first time in the world lol
          American submarines from left to right: USS Connecticut, USS Hartford, HMS Trenchant in 2018.

          And that before that, someone in the world had already arranged the simultaneous emergence of three Russian submarines in the Arctic?

          Yes you are right. I was inattentive. wink
    3. 2534M
      2534M 27 March 2021 13: 21
      -6
      Quote: aszzz888
      For the first time in the world, and I hope not soon someone will be able to do so. Russian Subplav three times Hurray !!!

      Opponent is doing this since the mid-80s
      ALMOST EVERY YEAR
      SHOOTING UP TO THE SPIRIT OF TENS OF TORPEDS ON ONE PLA
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 27 March 2021 16: 17
        +1
        Quote: 2534M
        Opponent is doing this since the mid-80s
        ALMOST EVERY YEAR
        SHOOTING UP TO THE SPIRIT OF TENS OF TORPEDS ON ONE PLA

        your caps are stuck ... laughing
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  • Runway
    Runway 27 March 2021 07: 48
    +3
    Show-off in a cube in the style of "achievement for the sake of achievement". The idea of ​​collecting Three SSBNs in one place is the height of genius.
    Report on the breakthrough launch of a torpedo and its icing (Klimov M. which year in a row writes the topic of practical ice-firing torpedoes).
    We are waiting for orders / stripes.
    The flight of the 31s over the Pole should be an ordinary element of the BP, and not a "breakthrough".
    1. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 27 March 2021 08: 22
      +3
      . should be an ordinary element of BP, and not a "breakthrough".


      I agree. These things have to be done all the time. That's what the BP is for.
    2. Avior
      Avior 27 March 2021 09: 12
      0
      It is not known which torpedo was fired. Klimov writes about the problem with launching guided torpedoes under the ice
      1. Runway
        Runway 27 March 2021 09: 54
        +3
        He voiced the lack of practice as such (subjectively due to the ability to "click" the materiel by the team providing the shooting).
        It must be banged in such a way that a practical one either pops out in a wormwood / divorce or under thin ice. To catch her infection. And with icebreakers, torpedoes is not rich.
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 March 2021 10: 29
          +2
          Indeed, he wrote that even tests were not carried out by the controlled, and that no one was shooting
          Here is this article on VO
          https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
          1. 2534M
            2534M 27 March 2021 13: 25
            -4
            direct link
            https://topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
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    3. 2534M
      2534M 27 March 2021 13: 25
      -4
      Quote: WFP
      Report on the breakthrough launch of a torpedo and its icing (Klimov M. which year in a row writes the topic of practical ice-firing torpedoes).

      Well, the article on "VO" "Arctic torpedo scandal" was one of the "podzhopnikov" who nevertheless the feat of VEFE to start such firing.
      And now a good question - what "Fabergés" prevented Evmenov from shooting like that when he was in the ComSF.

      Shl there is reason to believe that the main merit of the event belongs not to the "hockey team of Evmenov" but to the ComSF Moiseev and his headquarters
      1. Runway
        Runway 27 March 2021 13: 56
        +2
        Maxim, I have indicated my "infantry" assumption above (in the part "and if we click through?" ...
        The question is whether the practice as such or will be “filed into the archive” (those who were not involved were awarded, the rest were not punished, the wow-effect was produced and “method recommendations” as “scientific thought” were driven through the Academy).
        1. 2534M
          2534M 27 March 2021 14: 10
          -4
          Quote: WFP
          The question is whether the practice as such or will be "filed and archived"

          "the ice is broken"
          as for the results - see Evmenov's formulation (let's say "neat and streamlined")
          and how the first results were written in my "Arctic torpedo scandal"

          another thing is that ONE PIECE TORPED just finished off
          our "torpedo wickedness" is not new, but to arrange SUCH and not shoot at least 4-5-6 torpedoes is "complete PE"
          1. Runway
            Runway 27 March 2021 14: 29
            +1
            Well, 35 out of 43 activities of the "expedition" have been completed! laughing
            Although they promised the "expedition" to continue, so all the firing (with one torpedo) is ahead.
            This is a variant of shooting with an insert barrel ....
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              1. Runway
                Runway 27 March 2021 14: 50
                +1
                laughing Traditions...
                I give up, it's too dark and damp ...
  • Boris55
    Boris55 27 March 2021 07: 50
    -2
    But now let the adversary wonder from which side the otvetka will arrive.
  • xorek
    xorek 27 March 2021 08: 03
    -7
    Try to catch the adversaries !!! This is our insurance in case ...
    1. 2534M
      2534M 27 March 2021 13: 26
      -6
      Quote: xorek
      Try to catch the adversaries !!! This is our insurance in case ...

      and she is?
      compare how many YEARS, TIMES and HOW MANY TORPEDS the enemy shoots on such exercises
  • Popandos
    Popandos 27 March 2021 08: 03
    +1
    To emerge in such a clear formation, out of the ice, bravo!
    How is communication between boats carried out? I think hydroacoustic, or what has appeared less unmasking?
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 27 March 2021 08: 19
      -3
      Quote: Popandos
      I think hydroacoustic, or what has appeared less unmasking?

      It also appeared on completely new physical principles (for which neither water, plasma, nor distance is an obstacle) which no one has yet.
      1. 2534M
        2534M 27 March 2021 13: 27
        -4
        Quote: Boris55
        which no one has yet.

        Yeah
        special unit of ship priests
        or shamans
    2. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 27 March 2021 08: 34
      +5
      ... How is communication between boats carried out?


      By ZPS (sound underwater communication). It is clear that it took a long time to fall asleep in turn, chose a place, dropped the observers and everyone who needed it in advance ....
      There is an advertising component.
      But this is not so easy to accomplish. Especially at such distances. It is practically impossible to carry out a simultaneous movement in such a formation. Only one by one. Otherwise, you can collide. Well, active means in the form of a mine detecting station, echometer, circular navigation detectors. Judging by the ideal formation, something abnormal was used for positioning.
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    1. Avior
      Avior 27 March 2021 08: 58
      +1
      Klimov wrote that guided torpedoes were not fired under the ice.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 27 March 2021 10: 30
        -2
        Quote: Avior
        Klimov wrote,

        laughing laughing laughing
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 March 2021 10: 34
          +1
          These are verifiable facts. You just need to give information that such tests were carried out if Klimov wrote a lie.
          Do you know about such launches?
          1. 2534M
            2534M 27 March 2021 13: 29
            -3
            Quote: Avior
            These are verifiable facts. You just need to give information that such tests were carried out if Klimov wrote a lie.
            Do you know about such launches?

            have mercy on the wretched lol
            Evmenov himself voiced that FOR THE FIRST TIME
            1. Xscorpion
              Xscorpion 29 March 2021 08: 48
              -1
              Quote: 2534M
              Quote: Avior
              These are verifiable facts. You just need to give information that such tests were carried out if Klimov wrote a lie.
              Do you know about such launches?

              have mercy on the wretched lol
              Evmenov himself voiced that FOR THE FIRST TIME

              Take pity on yourself and learn to read. For the first time such a joint event was jointly with researchers and aviation. He did not say anything about torpedo firing.
  • U-58
    U-58 27 March 2021 08: 21
    +7
    The stump is clear, one hundred it is demonstratively removed with preliminary preparation.
    But the fact itself is impressive.
    Collecting three boats at one point is an achievement. Here the navigators and the staff distinguished themselves. And the commanders did not have to sleep long.
    In general, well done!
    1. Avior
      Avior 27 March 2021 09: 04
      0
      ... this is demonstratively removed with preliminary preparation.
      But the fact itself is impressive.

      And from a practical point of view, was there any sense in such a collective emergence?
      As far as I understand, the trick is dangerous.
      1. U-58
        U-58 27 March 2021 10: 35
        +3
        More than dangerous!
        Nevertheless, this most difficult trick succeeded.
        The experience of concentrating three nuclear submarines at one point has been acquired. The interaction of three ships in a submerged state has been worked out.
        Sworn friends-partners are intimidated.
        That is, many goals have been achieved, tactical tasks have been solved.
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 March 2021 11: 01
          -5
          The experience of concentrating three nuclear submarines at one point has been acquired. The interaction of three ships in a submerged state has been worked out.

          For three strategists at one point, their command needs to be dismissed from service without a pension, actually. If the joint maneuvering of a strategist and a multipurpose one or two or three multipurpose ones worked out, it would still be possible to understand something. And as if the saboteur planned to substitute three strategists.
          And it's hard to understand why the Americans were intimidated ...
          1. 2534M
            2534M 27 March 2021 13: 33
            -4
            Quote: Avior
            For three strategists at one point, their command needs to be dismissed from service without a pension, actually

            do not
            we have finally "matured" to exercises like ICEX
            and taking into account their "advertising" component in the US Navy and Great Britain, there is a sense in such a reciprocal window dressing
        2. 2534M
          2534M 27 March 2021 13: 32
          -6
          Quote: U-58
          Sworn friends-partners are intimidated.

          monsieur, they rather CHICK
          taking into account how many years they have been doing this and the fact that they shoot at a time in SEVERAL TEN TIMES more torpedoes
      2. 2534M
        2534M 27 March 2021 13: 30
        -3
        Quote: Avior
        And from a practical point of view, was there any sense in such a collective emergence?

        three - it makes no sense (only advertising, and what the Anglo-Saxons have been doing for so long)
        two - certain is (emergency assistance)
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 March 2021 13: 34
          +2
          Two strategists close to each other, in principle, cannot be
          Multipurpose paired with a strategist - it would be closer to reality
    2. 2534M
      2534M 27 March 2021 13: 30
      -5
      Quote: U-58
      Collecting three boats at one point is an achievement

      the meaning (tactical) of this achievement, you, apparently, are able to explain?
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 27 March 2021 08: 22
    0
    Baton and two Squids ... the tan will definitely be blown off the map ..
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      1. Evil 55
        Evil 55 27 March 2021 13: 45
        0
        I would like to hear the opinion of professionals, and not the ravings of amateurs ... about the 955A ..
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    2. 2534M
      2534M 27 March 2021 14: 12
      -6
      Quote: Angry 55
      Baton and two Squids

      no need to drag ships off the adventure
      no loaves there
      squid the same (the last - "Ryazan" for a long time at the Pacific Fleet)
  • Dikson
    Dikson 27 March 2021 08: 26
    -1
    This is to prevent unnecessary enemy boats and planes not to drive .. - to save the resource and fuel of the enemy .. well, and (forgive the cynicism, good people), so that it was more convenient to look for, if what kind of emergency, God forbid? The sacred meaning is to expose not one, but three combat units at once to the enemy's attack .. - this is a strong strategic move .. I apologize again for the comparison .. but apart from idiotic bravado (look, we ran away from you, you lost us, and here we are all together!) - I don’t see any effect from this action .. By the way, yesterday the news flashed that the leadership of our Navy still changed its mind about cutting nuclear-powered ships .. - Antei will rearm ..
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 27 March 2021 09: 06
    -3
    But I'm wondering how much damage the boats received and how much they will have to be repaired now.
    Who even thought of breaking thick ice with their antennas, periscope, rudders?
    Is it really impossible to make some kind of attachment, even the most primitive bomb, to crush the ice before surfacing?
    1. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 27 March 2021 18: 31
      +1
      Who even thought of breaking thick ice with their antennas, periscope, rudders?


      The chopping rudders are moved to a vertical position. No retractable periscopes and antennas "stick out". The very fence of the cutting ("cutting" in a simple) is strengthened and designed for surfacing in ice. Up to certain parameters, of course. Light damage is possible. The task will not be affected.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 27 March 2021 09: 09
    +2
    And who threw off the ice from felling? And who filmed the boats that suddenly surfaced?
    1. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 27 March 2021 18: 35
      0
      And who threw off the ice from the felling?


      The crew threw off and fell itself. There the curvature is good and the area is small. Height is present. It's not that hard. It is much more difficult to clean the rocket deck.

      And who filmed the boats that suddenly surfaced?

      Advertising element is present. The ascent point is known. The forces and means have been planted in advance. Although he himself was surprised. The deckhouse of the floating submarine was in the center of the frame.
  • Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 27 March 2021 09: 14
    -1
    ***

    If it is necessary, then it is necessary!

    We'll have to break the ice ...

    ***
  • Popandos
    Popandos 27 March 2021 09: 14
    0
    Judging by the ideal formation, something abnormal was used for positioning.

    Here I am about the same thing, one ZPS is not enough, perhaps this is a demonstration of some kind of technology of mutual positioning relative to each other. Then it is clear why this demonstration was needed.
    1. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 27 March 2021 20: 39
      0
      maybe this is a demonstration of some kind of technology


      I once again watched the video and drew attention to the pole sticking out next to the cockpit of the pop-up submarine. Look, you can see it very well. It was clearly installed by someone before surfacing. Everything was marked in advance. But here's how to bring the submarine there? Maybe the beacon was lowered into the hole? Even so, it is still unclear how it surfaced exactly under the peg? There are no thrusters as on the liner.
  • Bear
    Bear 27 March 2021 09: 47
    +6
    Good day to all. Certainly, this is a show of strength. Please note that simultaneously with the ascent, a pair of MiG-31s ​​"walked" with the IL-78 over the North Pole. An unambiguous message, "whose cones are in the forest." I was impressed by the thickness of the pack ice on the deckhouse of the boat. I don’t want to say anything, but in my opinion on the video, where "potential partners" float, the ice is twice as thin.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 27 March 2021 11: 09
      0
      Bear
      Orso (Michael)
      Today, 09: 47
      +1
      Good day to all. Certainly, this is a show of strength. Please note that simultaneously with the ascent, a pair of MiG-31s ​​"walked" with the IL-78 over the North Pole. An unambiguous message, "whose cones are in the forest." I was impressed by the thickness of the pack ice on the deckhouse of the boat. I don't want to say anything but in my opinion on the video, where "potential partners" float, the ice is two times thinner.
      Don't talk about itхfisoru, will demand facts about measuring the thickness of ice. wink His job is hard, ONLY PRAISING the Merikatos. laughing
      1. 2534M
        2534M 27 March 2021 14: 27
        -5
        Quote: aszzz888
        Do not tell the prohfIsoru about this, he will demand facts about measuring the thickness of the ice. His job is hard, ONLY PRAISING the Merikatos.

        no, monsieur - it's YOU too stupid
        the ability to break thick ice with the hull requires a large buoyancy reserve
        which was implemented on our nuclear submarines DUE TO DECREASING THE BATTLE QUALITY
    2. mik193
      mik193 27 March 2021 12: 15
      +3
      When surfacing with ice breaking, there is a maximum ice break thickness value for each submarine project. Moreover, the meanings are different for peacetime and wartime.
    3. 2534M
      2534M 27 March 2021 13: 36
      -5
      Quote: Orso
      I don’t want to say anything, but in my opinion on the video, where "potential partners" float, the ice is twice as thin.

      this does not apply to the tactical properties of submarines (only submarines)
    4. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 27 March 2021 18: 39
      +2
      where "potential partners" emerge, the ice is twice as thin.


      Ours have a lot more buoyancy. And they "sit" higher. It's easier to break the ice. And it's easier to clean. They will not cope with "our" ice. We push harder.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 27 March 2021 10: 08
    +2
    Three Russian nuclear submarines surfaced simultaneously in the Arctic ice
    ... Well, FLYED, not stuck!
    1. cniza
      cniza 27 March 2021 11: 47
      +2
      They also fished out a torpedo in a limited radius ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 27 March 2021 12: 33
        +1
        The teachings are going on. Normal process ... because the army fights the way it was taught !!!
        1. cniza
          cniza 27 March 2021 12: 35
          +3
          Someone really doesn't like it ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 27 March 2021 12: 37
            +2
            The enemy cannot like what WE are, we are strong, we learn, we become even stronger.
            1. cniza
              cniza 27 March 2021 12: 39
              +2
              So these are their problems, we do not ask to love us, we ask not to meddle with us and they will be more whole ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 27 March 2021 12: 51
                +1
                This is our enemy ... we must be able to keep him at a distance.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 27 March 2021 16: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  This is our enemy ... we must be able to keep him at a distance.


                  And it is desirable to go further, we would stop the further advance of NATO ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 27 March 2021 16: 39
                    0
                    And who else do they want? All their recent acquisitions, somehow not ah.
                    Who else can they pull up?
                    In addition, a large, variegated association acts accordingly .... some in the woods, some for firewood.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 27 March 2021 17: 25
                      +1
                      Or they must include Ukraine, then NATO will definitely not stand it. lol
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 27 March 2021 18: 14
                        0
                        They do not need Banderstan ... they want to incite him, but there are no, no, bad people to stand up for him.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 27 March 2021 19: 04
                        +2
                        Or maybe not let them gain a foothold in Ukraine ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 27 March 2021 19: 23
                        0
                        To say, to want, is not enough. This is a large-scale work, impact is needed ...
                        I do not know who and how can do it, will do it.
                      4. cniza
                        cniza 27 March 2021 21: 08
                        +1
                        And we have no other option ...
  • 2534M
    2534M 27 March 2021 14: 15
    -7
    Quote: rocket757
    The teachings are going on. Normal process ... because the army fights the way it was taught !!!

    do not you find that ODYN PIECES TURPED on the exercises "somehow quite wretched"?
    Quote: rocket757
    the army is fighting as it was taught !!!
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    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 27 March 2021 16: 29
      +1
      Quote: 2534M
      stop GORGING BOTH and CARRY BACKGROUND

      even if the individual is not in the subject, this does not mean that you need to raise a hysterical cry. it just makes you look funnier. And do not use kapslok already, this is bad manners. wink
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      2. rocket757
        rocket757 27 March 2021 16: 43
        0
        Quote: Tank Hard
        even if the individual is not in the subject,

        Are our boats stuck? Did I miss something?
        About the torpedo ... there is nothing to write about, especially, although there was no such thing at all.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 27 March 2021 16: 48
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          Are our boats stuck? Did I miss something?

          I'm not talking about you personally. hi It's just that the individual is rude and shouts at any opinion with which he does not agree. And this speaks of his development, even if he "smokes the topic", and the opponent does not. hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 27 March 2021 16: 59
            +1
            The screaming one did not even taste this topic ... the boats of the potential enemy were really stuck in the ice. Only the lazy didn’t talk about it.
            So then, such to ignore and nothing more. Not interested. soldier
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          1. poquello
            poquello 27 March 2021 18: 04
            +2
            Quote: 2534M
            Quote: rocket757
            Are our boats stuck?

            Give AT LEAST ONE example of a submarine "stuck" in the ice (it's not about movement on the surface)
            We are waiting, Monsieur balabol

            "who calls themselves names like that ..."
            There were precedents for the rescue of Americans in the Arctic when in 2015 Russian helicopter pilots, who were making a planned (or maybe not planned) overflight of one of the regions, discovered an American Seawulf-class nuclear submarine frozen into the ice. Only a small upper part of the submarine's wheelhouse protruded from the hummocks, which passed a six-month combat duty and made an not entirely successful ascent.

            Remembering the 2011 incident when the Connecticut submarine got stuck in the ice during the Ice Exercise Arctic exercise

            One of the latest cases on a similar topic is the Los Angeles-class nuclear submarine Hartford stuck in the northern ice and taking part in the Ice Exercise-2018 exercise.

            https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/286675/
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              1. poquello
                poquello 27 March 2021 18: 42
                +3
                Quote: 2534M
                have not tried to think? or not?

                nope, even count
                Quote: 2534M
                BRED and ACHINEA

                how many times did not write, because not an argument never
  • Intruder
    Intruder 27 March 2021 10: 08
    -6
    Even, not shaky and not shaky, they broke the ice this time ... laughing wink
    Earlier, there was a spectacle ..:
    1. Avior
      Avior 27 March 2021 10: 31
      +1
      I suspect that it is not only the formal thickness of the ice that matters, but also its condition, so the emergence looks different.
      1. mik193
        mik193 27 March 2021 11: 57
        +3
        The ice in the Arctic is indeed patchy. The average thickness is about 3-5 meters. But there are movements of ice, hummocking, the formation of wormwood and openings. The season also influences. In summer, the ice is more porous and softer. Now the ice is still hard, so the video shows the exit of only part of the wheelhouse fence.

        Here in the photo is the same BDRM, but surfaced, showing the missile deck. From this position, you can already shoot.
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 March 2021 12: 19
          -2
          Here in the photo is the same BDRM, but surfaced, showing the missile deck.

          there are questions about this photo
          How thick is the ice?
          Where did he go from the boat?
          Why are there no traces of surfacing?
          Where are people?
          It looks like they were filming somewhere near the shore, and the boat did not float - it was just that the ice froze.
          And the snow piled up from above.
          1. mik193
            mik193 27 March 2021 12: 32
            +5
            Most likely they surfaced in a slightly frozen ice hole. There are thin layers of ice on the bow superstructure. What should be the traces of surfacing? Ascend without a stroke with a minimum ascent rate. There is ice swelling in the area of ​​the missile deck. People, as it should be, in a solid case.
            Maybe you are right that I took a bad photo. I looked more closely and was surprised to see the wheel controls in the normal position, although they should be in the 90-degree position (hanging ears). Well, I'm trying to improve. This is 667BD.

            If ice remains on the rocket deck, specially designated people are sent up and dumped.
            1. Avior
              Avior 27 March 2021 13: 37
              -2
              Here you can see the swelling of ice, and ice on the hull and other traces of activity - the hatch covers are raised
              1. mik193
                mik193 27 March 2021 14: 08
                +2
                It's August 1982. Rocket firing of the CH K-92 missile complex.
    2. Evil 55
      Evil 55 27 March 2021 12: 00
      -2
      Pay attention, this is a sight in the middle of a previously prepared polynya .. Ice is 15 centimeters long and freezes in the Moscow region by the middle of winter, so it's not a fact that the footage is from the Arctic.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 27 March 2021 12: 07
        0
        so it's not a fact that footage from the Arctic
        At the beginning of the video, the inscription: Prudhoe, Alaska !!! laughing Simply, I mean that they could have removed more effectively and no matter where ...!?
        1. Evil 55
          Evil 55 27 March 2021 12: 12
          -2
          Roughly speaking, in latitude, at the mouth of the Kolyma, the boat rose ... Twice heroes, then ... wassat
  • Charik
    Charik 27 March 2021 10: 30
    +1
    As for me, the passage through the ice is event number 2, but about the under-ice shooting (this is also the first time?) is more interesting, where does the Physicist say?
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 27 March 2021 12: 22
      0
      but about shooting under the ice (this is also the first time?) is more interesting
      more real shooting, albeit old already:
      1. Charik
        Charik 27 March 2021 14: 57
        0
        I watched this movie a dozen times
  • iouris
    iouris 27 March 2021 10: 57
    -1
    What kind of maneuvers? It looks like artistic swimming in a pool (Arctic Ocean).
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      1. Barberry25
        Barberry25 27 March 2021 20: 20
        -1
        Well, it's not a fact that there was only one torpedo, and here it is important to understand what and how ... in order to work out the technology in the future
  • cniza
    cniza 27 March 2021 11: 45
    -1
    Also, as part of the Umka-2021 complex expedition, a pair of long-range MiG-31 interceptors made a flight with the passage of the North Pole point. During the mission, the MiG-31 was refueled in the air.


    The name of the exercise is just super and the tasks were worked out well done ...
  • mik193
    mik193 27 March 2021 11: 46
    +2
    What is the point of pulling three (!) SNPs to one point? Smells like a show or another "star trip".
    1. Evil 55
      Evil 55 27 March 2021 12: 03
      -3
      The point is to designate a meeting point for boats of different fleets, to move them in stealth mode when moving under ice fields, and to interact within a squadron.
      1. mik193
        mik193 27 March 2021 12: 08
        +1
        Only the actions of the SN RPK as part of the squadron, as well as their meetings, are not provided for by the tactical guides ...
        For multipurpose submarines - understandable.
        1. Evil 55
          Evil 55 27 March 2021 12: 37
          -3
          New times force us to write new instructions and update old statutes.
          1. 2534M
            2534M 27 March 2021 13: 42
            -4
            Quote: Angry 55
            New times force us to write new instructions and update old statutes.

            fool
            this nonsense wassat YOU have it written in the training manual? or YOU yourself are so "creative" wassat ?
            lol
        2. Barberry25
          Barberry25 27 March 2021 20: 19
          +2
          in this case, there are three points: 1) to show the adversary that we are not asleep, because believe me, the West will soon sink that they need money for the army. 2) practicing the actions of various boats, 3) practicing various tasks ... and the scientists there, in fact, are collecting data for subsequent conclusions
      2. 2534M
        2534M 27 March 2021 14: 14
        -4
        Quote: Angry 55
        The point is to designate a meeting point for boats of different fleets, to move them in stealth mode when moving under ice fields, and to interact within a squadron.

        fool
        YOU are aware of what ACHINA wassat DO YOU CARRY? lol
      3. Runway
        Runway 27 March 2021 14: 45
        +2
        You wrote nonsense to put it mildly.
      4. K298rtm
        K298rtm 27 March 2021 19: 56
        -1
        Of course, invisibility will be, but "inaudibility" is definitely not.
  • ramzay21
    ramzay21 28 March 2021 08: 29
    0
    From a practical point of view, this surfacing does not give anything, SSBNs should not emerge.
    Here is Bark, not brought to mind, unlike Bulava, he could break through the ice himself and the Boreas would not have to look for a wormwood. Such a launch and spectacle is impressive and the practical effect is colossal.
    And the Sharks, which should have been rearmed in general after the modernization on Barki, are the most ideal SSBNs for northern latitudes, and habitability is not attainable and the margin of safety, thanks to two independent strong hulls, is prohibitive. It is a pity that Bark was ditched and the Sharks were put on pins and needles.
  • Fisherman
    Fisherman 28 March 2021 09: 50
    +1
    The Anglo-Saxons have announced their desire to poke their navy in insolently into the NSR. This is our last Russian warning to them.
  • val43
    val43 28 March 2021 16: 55
    -1
    Shaw? All three at once?