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"Journalist" Sobchak and Skopinsky maniac showed where the bottom is

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Skopinsky maniac. Source: youtube.com


The acceptability of evil


The craving for everything that is vicious, obviously, is hardwired into a person's subconscious. Excavating dirty linen, savoring perversions, and the Fall have always been popular with a certain segment of the public. Over time, this vulgarized the cultural code of mankind - it became fashionable and modern to write books about it, to make films. Severe mental disorders began to acquire a flair of romance. Remember the sensation created by the thriller "The Silence of the Lambs" and its many imitators. Abnormality in culture suddenly turned out to be synonymous with genius. From now on, a person showing remarkable mental abilities must necessarily be somewhat crazy. If earlier the phenomenon of the “superfluous person” came to the fore for its time, now the more severe the deformation of the hero's personality, the better. This, in particular, was confirmed by the success of the series "Doctor House". But even this seemed not enough for a part of the public. The disgusting in their essence "masterpieces" "Saw", "Human centipede" and the like have gained worldwide fame. However, with constant exercise, the threshold of sensitivity increased, and the audience needed new shows. So we came to a detailed documentary about maniacs and victims. What previously did not go beyond the forensic community has become a real mainstream. It is much more exciting to watch an interview with a living, real maniac than the vicissitudes of fictional characters. Maniacs, in turn, take advantage of this and for a reward tell on camera how they came to such a life. They color, so to speak, the difficult everyday life of imprisonment.


Source: esquire.ru

They make films about maniacs, write books, examine psychoanalysis and behaviorism under the microscope. In the West, this genre has even been called true crime or "real crime." One of the most famous works on this topic is the Netflix film Conversations with a Killer: Ted Bundy's Tapes. Why create something like this? The official explanation is that this does not happen again. Freedom of speech, revealing the darkest corners of the human psyche, should explain to a person what is good and what is bad. But it doesn't work! In the last decades, we in Russia have only managed to memorize the nicknames of insane killers - "Skopinsky rapist", "Angarsk maniac", "Lipetsk strangler" and a dozen others like that. Such reports were built around persons already convicted (usually to life imprisonment), and the viewer usually saw the maniac behind bars, in shackles, or, at most, during an investigative experiment. Ethical and moral standards, it would seem, were not violated. Serial killers and rapists deserve the death penalty, but since we have a moratorium, then let them experience at least all the delights of a life sentence. So it was possible to interpret all the previous.

But Sobchak with a team of professional operators crossed all the norms of morality and ethics. "Skopinsky maniac", who served 17 years for bullying two girls (one of whom was a minor), became the protagonist of a 66-minute film. We must pay tribute to Ksenia Anatolyevna, she held herself with dignity and talked with the rapist-pedophile Mokhov on an equal footing.

4,5 million views


In the film “Skopinsky Maniac. Conversation Free ”, which is almost freely available on YouTube, almost all the characters seem to be out of tune with their minds. Ksenia Sobchak comments on her next "journalistic" activity as follows:

“The goal that we set for ourselves, having gone there and deeply studied this matter, is to show that evil is not an insidious maniac with a dagger and an attractive grin of Anthony Hopkins, but this is a grandfather from the next doorway who does not look like a maniac at all, but while it is. This is not some kind of perverted evil, this is the most banal evil that lives next to you. "

The entire script of the film is built around savoring the intimate life of a maniac, as well as the details of the horror that happened for almost four years in a bunker under the garage. For a person with a healthy psyche, Mokhov does not at all seem the personification of the banality of evil. When you hear his unambiguous hints about one of the victims: “I need to deal with her again”, The soul becomes disgusting. Is this beast free? Who will guarantee that Mokhov will not do something else tomorrow? By the way, ten meters from the house, the same garage and the same bunker were preserved. The public outcry forced the head of the IC Bastrykin to order a check on the content of the maniac's interview.


Source: ura.news

By the way, about the law enforcement agencies. Dmitry Plotkin, investigator for especially important cases of the Ryazan prosecutor's office, one of the heroes of the film, looks very ambiguous. On the one hand, he is a hero-forensic scientist who has gone through the fire and water of investigative work. It was necessary, as Plotkin said, to catch the corpses out of shit. On the other hand, he tells in detail and, it seems, with gusto, how the rapist followed the physiological cycles of his slaves. An employee of the prosecutor's office calls Mokhov not a maniac at all, but an idiot. Exactly so - a simple idiot who ruined life for himself and others. What is it? Professional personality deformation or something more?

The worldview of the maniac Mokhov, who served 17 years, makes one think about justice. After such a long prison term, the prisoner did not change his views one iota. He sees what happened as nothing more than an annoying mistake. He calmly drinks, eats, sleeps, relieves. By the way, Sobchak showed almost all of this in detail. Now Mokhov is preoccupied with finding a sexual partner and earning money. This is not a banality of evil, Ksenia Anatolyevna, this is the excessive humanity of the Russian judicial system 17 years ago, as well as a pathological desire to make money on the cheapest and most toxic hype.

Need to do something


As often happens in our reality, Russian lawmakers expressed a strong desire to ban this once and for all. The initiative was taken by the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia Vladimir Zhirinovsky, and it seems that this is one of the ideas of the parliamentarian who really has the right to live. The scientific basis for Zhirinovsky's opinion was summed up by Georgy Kostyuk, chief physician of the Moscow Psychiatric Hospital No. 1 named after N. A. Alekseev. From his expert point of view, such films can become a guide to action for a mentally unhealthy viewer. Sobchak under the sauce of the mythical banality of evil showed a typical "history success ”of a pedophile rapist. Gambolled heartily for four years, served 17 years and is happier than ever. Now they show the whole country what Mokhov is a hero-lover and how many sexual acts he can perform in a night. 4,5 million views and only 75 thousand dislikes.

The story with Mokhov and Sobchak makes us think about how much more freedom our society needs in order to finally come to its senses. The slag that flows from Western YouTube and the like, we can neither ban nor block, or we do not want to. In this regard, one can only envy the western man in the street. And this is not about liberal values. Why can they publicly condemn Kevin Spacey or Johnny Depp, and we cannot ignore Sobchak together? Where is the bright future, when the podium and microphone are taken away from such odious "journalists" and accounts in social networks and video hosting are blocked? The American Twitter of the President of the United States was left speechless at the right time, and the toxic video Sobchak with Mokhov was only restricted by age. The whole story of the Skopinsky maniac and the noise around will only increase the authors' income, which will create another precedent for enrichment. The bottom that the former Russian presidential candidate has groped seems to be deepening. Who is the next of the rapists-pedophiles freed from places not so distant?
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  1. Runway
    Runway 27 March 2021 04: 30
    +34
    Bread and circuses ... Sobchak should not be blamed - "she was born into the market by right." The sausage society is worthy of its representatives of the mass media, "culture", politics and "servants of the people."
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 27 March 2021 04: 56
      +41
      what kind of power, such is "culture" and "art" and so on. if guano is pouring from the screens, then why did they suddenly notice the sobchak only deshovka?
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        1. Stas157
          Stas157 27 March 2021 07: 43
          +55
          I still do not understand what the article is about, about how bad Sobchak is or about what a bad maniac?

          Personally, I am not worried about the eccentric girl whom the guarantor uses as a candidate for the presidency of Russia, but her mother Lyudmila Narusova, whom the tsar made a senator for life. Pensioner Narusova, known for her cynical statements towards the people (she has no other virtues besides her long-standing friendship with the Tsar), is the face of our Russian government.

          Strange collision! The Zaputins wholeheartedly hate the dog and the liberoids (Narusova and her daughter are from a family of liberals), but they treat their protege with amazing understanding.
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 27 March 2021 09: 45
            +14
            Narusova and her daughter from a family of liberals? In the USSR there were communists, and Narusova-repainted, like the rest of the current "liberals" :))) as for her daughter, oranges will not be born from an aspen. Her slogan: "for Russia, usrus" :)))
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 27 March 2021 11: 35
              +15
              Does Sobchak understand that her "research into evil" is in itself a crafty and dangerous thing? After all, it is not at all necessary to demonstrate, publicize, savor all crimes in the media in order to understand that this is not necessary!
              Of course, Sobchak understands this, but she is driven by selfishness and greed - super profits, super profits and careerism in DIRTY mass media!

              Mentally Sobchak is in the trend of Western popular culture, which. has an internal SATANIC overtones. In the collective West, there are no main good characters left at all. American, and behind it, Western popular culture glorifies all sorts of perverts, freaks, maniacs, murderers, etc. The main characters there are those who bring unsinkable evil and lawlessness, and those who are fighting this are just their victims and suckers.

              Sobchak, a maniac and a zapadlo. This woman and her mother must be stopped! 24 Mar 2021 g.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 27 March 2021 11: 57
                +21
                Quote: Stas157
                Personally, I am not worried about the eccentric girl whom the guarantor uses as a candidate for the presidency of Russia, but her mother Lyudmila Narusova, whom the Tsar made a senator for life. Pensioner Narusova, known for her cynical statements towards the people (she has no other virtues, except for a long-standing friendship with the Tsar), is the face of our Russian government.

                That's right! From the enemy of the Russian people Lyudmila Narusova, nothing decent in the person of Xenia will be born and can not be brought up!

                “There is no one in the world worse than a Russian! Even Tajiks are more freedom-loving people ”. 3 Mar 2019
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 27 March 2021 12: 07
                  +16
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Strange collision! Zaputins with all their hearts hate the dog and liberoids (), but with amazing understanding they relate to their protégé.

                  Apparently, they understand that VVP swornly supports Narusova and her daughter from a family of liberals financially and he has no other choice!

                  The Pension Fund first began to sue Lyudmila Narusova and try to return 730 thousand rubles illegally received by her. But then for some reason he changed his mind. Lyudmila Narusova managed to be unemployed from 2012 to 2014 and live on a senatorial pension. Then she again went to the senators, but did not say anything about this to the Pension Fund. As a result, almost 2 years on her card regularly dripped. Only in 2019 did the officials wake up, recalculated everything and began to demand the overpayment back, but then suddenly stopped abruptly. PF pretended to have forgotten about his claims.
                  For more details see "On a pencil!" - Interlocutor No. 11, 2021, p. 3.
                  1. Vladimir Mashkov
                    Vladimir Mashkov 27 March 2021 13: 27
                    +13
                    In modern Russian life, next to good people, certain successes and achievements, there is a lot of things that can be described briefly as "a terribly stinking bunch of Mr. na." Both Narusova and her daughter Sobchak are similar "heaps". In a way incomprehensible to me, they are not only not thrown into a landfill, but they are also allowed to lie at ease and stink-stink-stink!

                    In my opinion, both mother and daughter earned themselves a long time ago and should sit somewhere next to Navalny! yes
                  2. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 27 March 2021 14: 39
                    +3
                    Dear Tatiana! Maybe I don’t know, but, like Pension, used to independently unilaterally resolve the issue of overpayments? I heard from pensioners somehow .....
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 27 March 2021 15: 31
                      +5
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      Maybe I don’t know, but, like Pensionny, used to independently unilaterally resolve the issue of overpayments? I heard from pensioners somehow .....

                      The RULES are as follows.
                      1. If the FIU applied to the court for the recovery of the overpayment of the pension after the expiration of the 3-year limitation period, the claim will be rejected, even if it is justified.
                      2. The limitation period is calculated from the moment when The FIU found out or should have found out that the pensioner is receiving the pension illegally.
                      3. In this case, for overpayment of pension, the calculation of the limitation period is in relation to each individual payment.

                      If we consider that the Pension Fund went to court with a claim against Narusova in 2019 to return her overpayment of her pension from the beginning of 2015, then the period for repayment of overpayments, in principle, may be overdue. The only question is - under what circumstances did this happen.
                      But it is unlikely to think that Narusova DIDN'T KNOW for 2 years that she was continuing to receive her pension ILLEGALLY.
                      And at the same time, the PF went to court in 2019, and before that, the "kotovasia" -the trouble with Senator Narusova with the PF could drag on and on until the return case "soured".
                      In any case, this does not paint Narusova in any way, and one way or another her personality falls into a bad suspicious stain on the authority of Putin himself in the eyes of the public.
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 27 March 2021 15: 47
                        +4
                        Well yes! Well yes! Like any honest person, I should have said ----you can't take someone else's! As the treacherous liberda says about the Crimea !!!! And rather, immediately, return, rather than pretend not to know.! Like, a person dropped a wallet, and the other one would sooner grab it, instead of returning it --- and run !!!!
                        I often heard from pensioners that when recalculating, there were overpayments,
                        which were returned within 1-3 months.
                        Somehow suspicious of the Pension's behavior ...... interesting, but what about the punishment?
                        Thanks for the clarification, Tatiana love laughing
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 27 March 2021 16: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Somehow suspicious of the Pension's behavior ...... interesting, but what about the punishment?

                        And they will punish, Dmitry, mere mortals, like you and me, for not receiving a well-deserved pension and its underestimation on time!
                        And I remembered this case, that's what!
                        Quote: Stas157
                        Lyudmila Narusova, whom the king made LIFETIME Senator... Pensioner Narusova, known for her cynical statements towards the people (she has no other virtues besides her long-standing friendship with the Tsar), is the face of our Russian government.

                        If this is really so, and not a "whistle" - that Narusova became a LIFETIME Senator, then none other than Putin made Lyudmila Narusova a LIFETIME Senator by his appointment and thereby solved all LIFETIME material problems of her as pensioners and aristocrats in the future ?!
                        That's the whole point!
                        But I, frankly, have not yet found confirmation of this information on the Internet.
                      3. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 27 March 2021 19: 15
                        +5
                        Well, why in the future? Tatiana? Narusova's problems have already been resolved. I wonder what she is doing for "her" region ---- Tyva? Has she ever been there? And it’s somehow unpleasant that the result is senators who do not live in those regions ... well, it’s unpleasant, probably, for the residents?
                        The hotel on Karpovka 37, where Sobchak and she were at the opening, have almost already been broken. After the hotel did not open and various rumors about it ....... more than 100 million $$$$$$ ..... That's what.
                      4. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 27 March 2021 19: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        I wonder what she is doing for "her" region ---- Tyva?

                        It must be assumed that Senator Narusova from Tuva is engaged in nothing more than the propaganda of Russophobia in Tuva and the support of local nationalists there in the Federation Council of the Russian Federation - with all the ensuing consequences of national separatism for our country!
                      5. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 27 March 2021 20: 57
                        +1
                        Somehow, I have not yet found about her actions in that region. I know that I used to hold positions in various international foundations ...
                        The Governor of Tuva asked scientists from the republic about poverty in the region, he has the words ----- "...... we have the right to demand from you ......" And I wonder if he will turn to Narusova? no ..... it turns out that if the poor are poorly dressed, it is unpleasant. Well, unpleasant, .....
                      6. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 27 March 2021 22: 14
                        +6
                        Sobchak, using the leadership of Channel 1 on TV Russia, RAPE the peoples of Russia with her unacceptably harmful garbage information! Dehumanization with good never ends and leads to self-destruction.

                        And about Narusova, people have been asking questions for a long time. What is Narusova doing in the Federation Council of the Russian Federation? Who chose her there? Is this choice for a mockery of Tuva?

                        These and other questions are answered by the military military observer of Komsomolskaya Pravda, Viktor Baranets, on the air with Golovanov and concludes: “The whole family is testing our patience! This must be over. "

                        It's time for the Sobchaks to point out their place. " Narusova in the Federation Council and information slops of Ksenia Sobchak. 24.03.2021
                      7. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 28 March 2021 07: 25
                        +2
                        ..... a mockery of Tuva .....
                        it is worth remembering that even before Tyva became part of the USSR, residents wanted to help the USSR in the Second World War, and did not oppose Stalin
                      8. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 28 March 2021 07: 37
                        +2
                        ..... RAPE .....
                        Why would she pretend ((although it's clear why am am )) they say researched .... she advertised, did not research.
                        No matter how it turns out that the inquisitive researchers whom she is trying to create will practically do it with her,
  • Stas157
    Stas157 27 March 2021 13: 56
    +9
    Quote: VORON538
    Narusova and her daughter from a family of liberals?

    Anatoly Sobchak the first mayor of St. Petersburg real democrat and liberal... His former subordinate Putin calls himself liberal, surprisingly. If Putin were different, EBN would never have chosen him as its successor and continuer of the course.

    It is only the poor confused people who try to ignore and ignore this unfortunate fact. And being pinned to the wall, they begin to play around and understand the varieties of this very. They say the king is not quite liberal, and if a liberal, then special, good, not at all like other liberoids.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 27 March 2021 14: 55
      +3
      Quote: Stas157
      Anatoly Sobchak is the first mayor of St. Petersburg, a real democrat and liberal. His former subordinate, Putin, calls himself a liberal, surprisingly. If Putin were different, EBN would never have chosen him as its successor and continuer of the course.

      It is only the poor confused people who try to ignore and ignore this unfortunate fact. And being pinned to the wall, they begin to play around and understand the varieties of this very. They say the tsar is not quite a liberal, and if a liberal, then special, good, not at all like other liberoids.

      All this is interesting, final, but how is this to the article? request
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 27 March 2021 15: 24
    +6
    Quote: Stas157
    Strange collision!

    I read 3 comments. Everything is sad.
    GDP writes -
    Quote: Dead Day
    Sobchak is not worth blaming

    Because she "blended into the market." And what is the article about? About the market, about Sobchak, or about the "sausage society"?
    Another, Dedkastary, about the fact that "what kind of power, such is the culture" and "why only Sobchak was noticed"?
    And Stas157 got a bunch of pluses for not understanding what the article was about at all.
    But the article is about a simple thing - about not having to follow the lead of a sick child and, instead of a bitter pill, give him candy. Society hurts, but how else to explain such a number of views of the spectacle in which one "person" mocks another person? And since it hurts, then it must be treated forcibly - to take away the information space from all kinds of "Sobchak". All those who work in the field of human dehumanization. But this is only half the battle. The second half is for the man of labor to become the hero of the information field. A man, whose hands have created everything that we all use every day.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 28 March 2021 05: 21
      +1
      yes, everything is simpler, morality, morality .. everything was poured into the sewer, skilful "thimblers" began to rule the world, and many on VO do not understand this ... and to hell with them, they will understand when THIS comes ...
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 28 March 2021 05: 27
        +2
        The world has always been ruled and ruled by thimblers ... smile the main thing is to throw a tasty and large mark on the people on a fishing rod.
    2. Soho
      Soho 29 March 2021 05: 54
      0
      Everything is correct, fellow countryman
  • businessv
    businessv 27 March 2021 20: 22
    +5
    Quote: Stas157
    I still do not understand what the article is about, about how bad Sobchak is or about what a bad maniac?

    Don't worry, they are both good! An article about the fact that the dregs of society are supposed to be where they are assigned a place - in the garbage! Despite the fact that the blessed west and its fans are trying to convince us otherwise.
  • Soho
    Soho 29 March 2021 05: 53
    0
    I still don't understand what the article is about,

    Here you had to put a period, not a comma. Because everything written after it has nothing to do with the article, but is only an expression and manifestation of your ailment :))
  • Moore
    Moore 29 March 2021 09: 24
    0
    Quote: Stas157
    Strange collision! The Zaputins wholeheartedly hate the dog and the liberoids (Narusova and her daughter are from a family of liberals), but they treat their protege with amazing understanding.

    What is strange about the fact that the world does not consist of exclusively white and black colors?
    If, for example, I was not honored to enroll in the zaputins, I must definitely become a liberoid or an all-pervading man?
    Yes, the adherence of Comrade First to the slogan "We do not abandon our own!", Which he understands in a very specific way, irritates immensely. Without his subtle mental organization and decency, as he understands it to himself, a wet place would have long been left of the filthy family.
    But where to find that spherical in a vacuum the principled (but humane, this is necessary, we do not want any gulags and other intransigence there!) Unmercenary - the lover of truth, fit in the leader of our Rosseyushka?
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  • Victorio
    Victorio 28 March 2021 09: 03
    +2
    Quote: Dead Day
    what kind of power, such is "culture" and "art" and everything else... if guano is pouring from the screens, then why did they suddenly notice the sobchak only deshovka?

    ===
    ? society around the world hurts, Russia is no exception, unfortunately
  • Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 31 March 2021 12: 09
    0
    We must pay tribute to Ksenia Anatolyevna, she held herself with dignity and talked with the rapist-pedophile Mokhov on an equal footing.
    So she recognized him as her equal! However, nothing surprising, "creative" individuals lack human qualities and morality as a class. They are something else - inhuman. Within the framework of inhuman morality, Sobchak is great.
  • AUL
    AUL 27 March 2021 06: 57
    +6
    Quote: WFP
    Sobchak should not be blamed - "she was born into the market by right."

    What, Ksyusha decided to run somewhere again? Reminds me of myself.
    1. Machito
      Machito 27 March 2021 07: 17
      +22
      If Ksyusha Obshchak made a film of how Mokhov rapes her in a basement in a perverted form, she would break all the records on YouTube of Lehi Okhalny.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 27 March 2021 08: 37
        +11
        At this time, Buzova nervously smokes on the sidelines
      2. shtatsov
        shtatsov 27 March 2021 11: 32
        +1
        I would have chipped in on the fee!
    2. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS 27 March 2021 08: 24
      +9
      Quote: AUL
      What, Ksyusha decided to run somewhere again? Reminds me of myself.

      She is going to the presidency again, and she will take Mokhova into the premiere.
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        1. depressant
          depressant 27 March 2021 10: 42
          +19
          Once upon a time, and this was a very long time ago, I was getting better at listening to "Echo of Moscow". And then one day they announce: "Interview with Ksenia Sobchak." She began to listen and was horrified: from what city gate is this lady? This is her torrent, vulgar pronunciation features ... Dad is a famous fluff with aristocratic quirks of speech, who knew how to slowly, holding a theatrical pause, put in Yeltsin's place. Mother is a cutesy aristocrat who breaks out of herself. And this is their child - is it theirs? Where was "it" brought up? In what kind of gang? And then "Dom-2" was discovered, and there was no more strength for all this substance from the latrine. To watch and listen to this is not to respect yourself and spoil the impression of your own life.

          Here is the respected Author says:
          The craving for everything that is vicious, obviously, is hardwired into a person's subconscious.


          Well, don't tell me! The vicious one climbed out of all the cracks only some individuals, taking advantage of the fact that in the era of humanization of consciousness, literature and art turned to the experiences of the "little man", making him the subject of their research. Not all about kings and other noble persons! But none of the humanists imagined that in our epoch the vice of the "ballpoint" would aggressively take advantage of this, pushing the modest and unobtrusive virtue to the margins of public attention.
          And now the natural curiosity of a person is successfully transformed into a craving for depravity. And how to do this, the "Sharikovs" know, the methods of transforming the public space according to their needs have been developed by professional psychologists and PR specialists. And yes, it looks like Sobchak is preparing the electorate for himself.
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          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 27 March 2021 14: 53
            +5
            After all, what is interesting, Lyudmila! wink When there was the USSR, where the proletariat and collective farmers were among the deputies, their speech and behavior were decent than today's elected or appointed rulers ... why is that?
            Not like now, when the wealth and opportunities of the population and those who sit down are incomparable.
            Under the USSR there was more culture, it turns out, when there was no talk of belonging to the nobility and lost Russia?
            1. depressant
              depressant 27 March 2021 15: 23
              +8
              Dima, hello!)))
              Oddly enough, more than once or twice during the Soviet era I have come across people who positioned themselves as descendants of noble historical families. But, judging by the characteristics of these people, a remarkable origin, real or fictional, was the only thing that made you pay attention to them, in order to then forget about them completely. For the declared genealogy did not confirm the aristocratic spirit.
              And yes, my parents, among other things, were friends with a working-class family from the village of Biryulyovo Tovarnoye near Moscow - it was the sweetest family!
              And in life I had to make sure that the lower a person is in the hierarchy of social relations, the more mentally he is, simpler and more modest. Dirt appears only where there is an opportunity to snatch an unearned piece.
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 27 March 2021 15: 35
                +7
                Good afternoon, Lyudmila! hi I wonder how the general secretaries joked in the USSR? So it was said --- wet in the toilet ... or ---- if my grandmother was a grandfather ... And spreading further and further, we hear --- EP zhahnala everyone, quite seriously ...
                In general, the topic of humor is quite complex. .... quickly becomes obsolete, everyday details are forgotten ..... become incomprehensible. Because of this, and a poor understanding of those realities of the USSR ---- often I do not understand Soviet everyday films, the moment is gone ...
                But I know for sure, they could not teach bad things.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 27 March 2021 16: 47
                  +5
                  Due to what you said ...
                  Just the other day I watched Bertolucci's film "The Last Tango in Paris" with Maria Schneider and Marlon Brando. The new, young world is disgusting, disgusting, disgustingly humiliated by the old and is thus made into such a psychological dependence on the old, which does not know how to offer worthy values, that at first the new world succumbs, not being able to develop its own moral values. And then the old world in the person of the hero Brando gets a bullet from the young world in the person of Schneider. You cannot humiliate and defile new generations in an attempt to subordinate them to your base needs. About the same film by the Canadian director Xavier Dolan "I Killed My Mom". There was also some film with McGregor as a counterbalance to two data, where the old evil, which does not want to go to the grave along with its depravity, draws another victim into its dead world. In protest, without experiencing the enormity of humiliation, the young world prefers to kill itself.
                  That is, the problem is acute and has been standing for a long time. And this is not the old question of fathers and children, now it is a question of the survival of civilization.
                  Imposing a maniac as a material from which young generations must mold their morality, such as Sobchak, deprive our world of the future. Or excluding yourself from the future. The latter is preferable.
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 27 March 2021 16: 58
                    +2
                    Quote: depressant
                    Imposing a maniac as a material from which young generations must mold their morality, such as Sobchak, deprive our world of the future.

                    What state, such is "culture".
                  2. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 27 March 2021 19: 33
                    +1
                    ..... people like Sobchak deprive our world of the future .....
                    well, she's been doing this for a long time ..... "building relationships" ---- that was the name of the fuss at the House. Somehow here the further destinies of those builders came out on the net .... it is controversial about the relationship.
                    Into the future in a hearse ???? Let's see how it turns out ...
                    But unexpectedly "honestly" she designated "heart" for bulk ---- with the letter Well !!!!! wassat laughing lol ---- in public and under the camera.
              2. midivan
                midivan 29 March 2021 09: 49
                +1
                Quote: depressant
                Dirt appears only where there is an opportunity to snatch an unearned piece.

                Here I disagree with you repeat But to paraphrase a little - Dirt appears only where you can snatch ... For thoughts about snatching visit only ...
            2. Victorio
              Victorio 28 March 2021 09: 11
              +3
              Quote: Reptiloid
              After all, what is interesting, Lyudmila! wink When there was the USSR, where the proletariat and collective farmers were among the deputies, their speech and behavior were more appropriate than today's elected or appointed rulers ... , why is that?
              Not like now, when the wealth and opportunities of the population and those who sit down are incomparable.
              Under the USSR there was more culture, it turns out, when there was no talk of belonging to the nobility and lost Russia?

              ====
              They were rude, of course, but not publicly and not openly, they were still shy, afraid. yes, and the mass of people was inherent, if not conscience, then bashfulness or something
      2. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 27 March 2021 10: 24
        +7
        Sobachek's mother Lyudmila Narusova recently struck the bottom with her head good
        -------
        On March 2, the official community of the upper house of the Russian parliament on VKontakte published a recording from a meeting of the committee on constitutional legislation and state building. At the end of the meeting, Narusova took the floor and asked her colleagues if it was legal in Russia to hold single pickets.

        "We, after all, in my opinion, adopted a law on the admissibility of single pickets, right? Do we have one? Can single pickets be held?" she asked.

        “You can do it, of course,” her colleagues replied.
        “You know, colleagues, I don’t know how anyone relates to this ... But when I see some marginal people near the Federation Council with incomprehensible demands that do not fit into any framework, well, it’s unpleasant. right on the steps of the Federation Council there are some kind of homeless people with demands. And with the fact that this person is on our porch, we seem to be in solidarity. This, in my opinion, is unpleasant, "said Narusova.

        "Then, Lyudmila Borisovna, we expect from you a draft law banning single pickets," the chairman of the committee, Senator Andrei Klishas, ​​answered her, after which everyone laughed.

        "No really, no really," Narusova answered with a laugh.
        -------
        That Narusova's daughter participated in single pickets was also recalled by the host of the Russia 1 TV channel Vladimir Solovyov. "Mom, deal with your daughter!" - he wrote on Instagram.

        Sobchak herself, in response to a comment from one of the users on Instagram, wrote that she did not support the views of her mother. "I absolutely do not support this and do not share these views. I have a difficult relationship with my mother, and I have said this many times. I love her, but I cannot be responsible for her words and actions," she said.

        "I myself have been to pickets"
        On the evening of March 3, Narusova told Gazeta.Ru that her question about the pickets was connected with the fact that on her way to the committee meeting she saw an untidy man at the Federation Council with a poster about the need to judge the first president of the USSR, Mikhail Gorbachev, who was performing on that day. 90 years old.

        According to Narusova, she was outraged that "instead of expressing gratitude to the first and last president of the USSR, who gave democratic freedoms, in the Federation Council, we must endure this on the day of his anniversary."
        -------
        I really licked Humpbacked ... wassat
        Apples by the apple tree to the very bull's eye ...
        1. depressant
          depressant 27 March 2021 11: 31
          +11
          Brilliant comment, colleague! )))
          They will throw the rod. People of "homeless appearance" should not offend the eyes of those who themselves are from rags to riches. The opinion is thrown, and it will begin to take root in the consciousness of the legislative branch, gradually filling it with the thought: “What? It’s right.” Otherwise, such a bummed seemingly harmless plastic parts will take out of his pocket, dexterously assemble a firearm from them, taking out the striking elements from the sole, and it will fire at me, splendid person. "
          They start to be afraid of us, colleague, even when people are not a rally, not three or even two. They start to be afraid of us all in a row, even when we are one by one. Because they have done business, not knowing how to set boundaries for their dirty "creativity". And suddenly they smelled danger ... In a word, animals.
          1. depressant
            depressant 27 March 2021 11: 37
            +3
            I forgot to answer about Der Spiegel. I don't even know who it is. Is this that maniac? All this is outside the scope of my interests))
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 27 March 2021 12: 28
              +2
              Lyudmila Yakovlevna, I humbly thank you for your comment about Boris Isaakovich Spiegel, a former senator ...
              Here begs a quiz there are tips
              1.call a friend (Berl Lazar)
              2.50/50
              3.Call (does not catch in the taiga) wassat
              4.call to POC
              5. Super Call Netanyahu

              So ... Drum Roll ... Senators Arrested ?:
              A. Arashukov. V. Spiegel
              S. Narusova D. Joe Biden or his son ...
              F. All answers are correct wassat
              repeat
              1. depressant
                depressant 27 March 2021 13: 52
                +1
                About Spiegel - she laughed for a long time wassat )))
                Maniacs, senators - they flicker, multiply, who will disassemble them! Yes, and I have no desire to understand, the prison makes them all equal! )))
          2. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 27 March 2021 11: 39
            +2
            The most beautiful Lyudmila, I would like to note that at rallies and pickets, issues are not resolved. Remember the French were against changing dad and mom to parent # 1 and parent # 2?
            https://www.google.com/amp/s/afmedia.ru/406/amp/
            1. depressant
              depressant 27 March 2021 12: 44
              +4
              Yes, I have no craving for rallies and pickets, I somehow all stand apart)))
              In general, yes! A rally is when the interests of one very small group of people need to be opposed to the interests of another, also a very small group of people with the help of a "national veche". They say, the people are behind us. And in order for the people to come out to the rally, forming the very "veche" and make principled faces, they need to throw a suitable idea. There will always be one and will unite. And, close to people, it will be far from the true interests of opposing narrow groups. An ordinary citizen is always deceived and used. But in the confrontation between the "narrow" ones, something still falls on him. If not by reason, then by instinct, feeling this, people go to rallies. But now a situation has arisen when, with a set of restrictive laws, the rank and file have finally been shown their true place. The squabble of the "narrow" has gone up, the electorate of new generations is brought up in the idea that maniacs are the proper range of interests of a decent person, and the internal policy of the state is beyond the capabilities and understanding.
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 27 March 2021 13: 00
                +4
                Here I am reading your lines, Lyudmila, and I am amazed ... How does a person with a mathematical mindset succeed in expressing their thoughts so beautifully? love May God grant you health, a clear mind and a peaceful sky above your head. fellow
                1. depressant
                  depressant 27 March 2021 15: 02
                  +5
                  Colleague ...))) Someone disagreed with you. Thank you for your kind wishes! Yours - I will forward to all those present - health and a peaceful sky!
              2. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 29 March 2021 09: 54
                +2
                Quote: depressant

                In general, yes! A rally is when the interests of one very small group of people need to be opposed to the interests of another, also a very small group of people with the help of a "national veche". Like, follow us

                I cannot agree with you. For, in the subtext, the struggle is meaningless.
                In my opinion, rallies, demonstrations unite people, mass demonstrations force the authorities to correct their actions. Isn't the experience of Western countries an example for you? Do you think that the living standards of the people there have risen by themselves, and not because of the pressure of the people on the authorities precisely by mass demonstrations? Our people, alas, do not understand their strength. And she is only in association. We urgently need to re-create trade unions. Our people are too smart, they know in advance that .., "ah, nothing will come of it." Although he realizes that 90% of Russian citizens do not like this particular "THIS", he does not understand that this will continue until it is publicly announced. And for this it is necessary, in spite of one's own -
                Quote: depressant
                I'm somehow all apart
                , tear your soft seat from the chair and join your voice with your feet, coming to a rally, procession.
                But .., we are smart, we are sure that nothing will change. And, therefore, we sit in our "holes" and are indignant - why is this mortgage interest so high? We were convinced that this was economic expediency and we agreed. But this is not the case! This is the usual, primitive greed of bankers. And you can fight this! But .., we are smart.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 29 March 2021 10: 47
                  +3
                  Dear colleague Krasnoyarsk, it is already too late for me to tear my "soft spot" from the chair and demand something from the government: neither age, nor state of health, nor passionarity, which has died out in the struggle with circumstances, does not allow this. I can only tell the authorities what they are doing wrong and how they should do it. But it seems that my proposals, of which I have expressed quite a few here, so far run counter to the intentions of the authorities.
                  Actually, I don't see any plans. Only scattered fragments, not collected together. And I only hear: "The great is conceived ... Another even greater is conceived ... The question will be resolved ... There is no time for the buildup ..."
                  There is no time to swing, but as if in a state of hypnotic trance, from which the authorities have not been able to get out for 20 years, all our leaders from the economy cannot get out of this swing, having lost touch with reality, and swing, swing ... And somehow miraculously, gigantic funds float abroad that could have been invested in the country's economy.
                  And so that the young generations, full of passionarity, which means a thirst for action, do not interfere with the stabilization of the buildup, their brains are clogged with contents from the trash can in the form of the biography of maniacs and obscene pseudo-stars from show business. And such a young man, with a consciousness filled with dust, goes out into the square and starts screaming, demanding this and that. But what intelligent can the brain of a well-trained young consumer give birth to? Only a simple slogan "Give me money! We deserve it!" And already somehow indecent against the background of this universal cry, almost extinct demands sound: "Industry! Give us your large-scale industry for the production of everything and everyone that will mean the strategic security of the country! Give us the opportunity to create jobs ourselves! Remove the greedy pack from us! officials and law enforcement officers who suck and ruin any new business! Freedom for small and medium-sized businesses based on the achievements of Russian scientists! Freedom and protection for farmers! ... "
                  My voice is screaming in the desert. Reasonable requirements every year are drowned out by more and more furious: "Free money - give me!"
                  They will. Catch up and give more for the elections. And along the way they will give them with clubs.
                  And yet.
                  You not quoted the main thing from my comment. Here it is:

                  An ordinary citizen is always deceived and used. But in the confrontation between the "narrow" ones, he still gets something. If not by reason, then by instinct, feeling this, people go to rallies.


                  Ah, if only the new industrialization had been "transferred" to us! After all, the authorities must finally become smarter than their electorate.
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 29 March 2021 11: 17
                    +1
                    Quote: depressant
                    You not quoted the main thing from my comment.

                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk

                    I cannot agree with you. For, in the subtext, the struggle is meaningless.

                    It was with the "senselessness of the struggle" that I did not agree.
                    I, too, am not a "pale youth with a burning gaze," and I also do not have time to fight off sores, but I do not allow myself "defeatist moods." Can't express your protest with your feet? "Burn the hearts of people with a verb" is quite a worthy occupation.
                    And, is the demand for a reduction in mortgage interest rates a demand for "free money"? Is the demand for higher wages a demand for "free money"?
                    You have repeatedly read enthusiastic words on the pages of VO - with comparable quality, our, for example, MIG-35, is cheaper than its foreign counterpart. Why is it cheaper? Why is it sold to the customer 1.5 times cheaper? Because all of our participants, from mineral miners, to the pilot who ferries an aircraft to the customer, to the production of this aircraft, are underpaid in the form of salaries. And then they are proud that our plane is the cheapest plane in the world !!!!
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 29 March 2021 12: 33
                      +4
                      Colleague, this is all clear ...
                      Rejoicing for you, I still want to dot the "e" in relation to our generation.
                      Talk to any street fighting specialist and he will tell you that no matter how tough judoka you are, when you see a crowd of thugs, run away! For while you, with the help of some sophisticated technique, are coping with one, the other will stick a feather in your side, and everything will end there ...

                      There is such a publicist - Echidny Douglas. In his article today, he angrily addressed us, the Soviets, calling out, they say, you were free people! And now - what happened to you? Look at this old lady on her knees begging for alms! Where did your dignity of a free Soviet man go?!? Why don't you protest against the established order?!?
                      Echidny does not understand that "a free Soviet man, full of deep dignity and humanity", faced in the 90s with a huge gang of outright bandits and thugs who seized power, but not having the skills to resist this, in horror followed the natural instinct of self-preservation and ran with all his untrained crowd wherever they look, losing in the run those who were slaughtered by the bandits, trampled, the weak, the sick, who died from violence, terror, lack of money, hunger and cold - there were millions of them who died! Who remembers them now? Only loved ones grieve - if they themselves survived in a bandit environment.

                      We are survivors, we have reached the present time, including you, colleague. And we are mortally tired of this running so that we still cannot catch our breath. There are very few people like you who are not tired among us. And we still continue to run, or rather, crawl with wheezing from the bandit chaos, and he, the chaos, not only caught up with us, he has already surrounded us, he runs ahead of us, facing us --- young, healthy strong due to the replenishment of new personnel , runs and laughs in our face: "Crawl, old men, crawl! You are not afraid of me!"

                      Do you remember the ending of the film "Zhmurki? It is about the 90s. Looking at the Kremlin through the window of his office, the bandit confidently declares that it is time to take care of his deputy status for himself."
                      Are you suggesting that I fight this?
                      Are you offering me, tormented by adversity, to go out to the square?
                      You are not tortured, come out!
                      And there are younger generations. They grew up in gangster chaos, they know what it is, they live in it, and they themselves have unwittingly ingrained signs of frostbite - let them come out! Let the battle break out! One part of the youth on the other, dressed in uniforms and armed with clubs. And the bandit, rubbing his hands contentedly, will look at this fight from the window of his office or the office of the State Duma and will buy whoever wins. For a small bribe. And I don't mean youth. But in battle, something falls to everyone.
                      Therefore, if we are going to protest, then not only with the demand for the resignation of this and that, but with the maximum set of intelligible, reasonable economic demands. And not just on salaries. With a full package you have to go! Then, you see, the bandit will throw something on the salaries.
                    2. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 29 March 2021 13: 46
                      +1
                      Quote: depressant

                      Are you offering me, tormented by adversity, to go out to the square?

                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      "Burn the hearts of people with a verb" is quite a worthy occupation.

                      Only not with defeatist "verbs" like you.
                      Quote: depressant

                      Therefore, if we are going to protest, then not only with the demand for the resignation of this and that, but with the maximum set of intelligible, reasonable economic demands. And not just on salaries. With a full package you have to go!

                      Well, then it won't work. Overnight, like this, all at once? It doesn't work that way. We do not know how to conquer power. Can we beat her on the main track? Definitely not. Therefore, at first, the program is minimum. On the basis of small victories - concessions to the authorities in something, to show people the necessity and possibility of joint organized actions. Even if this small victory does not touch someone, in the sense of improving his life, in this case, then in the future these improvements will also affect him. Knock out the ideology of people - "I am a small person and nothing depends on me" and "my house is on the edge."
                    3. depressant
                      depressant 29 March 2021 14: 53
                      +3
                      Colleague, the less you ask, the less you will be given. If you ask for a little, they will not give anything. Historical practice shows that there is a lot to demand. In this case, bargaining is possible. Do not expect the authorities to cry with emotion: "Oh, how little you asked! I'm already uncomfortable! Here you are, this and this and more from above." This will not happen. The one who asks for little does not command respect. You must understand who you are dealing with. Power is cynical, understands everything and is by no means stupid, just as any mongrel cannot be stupid. She is cunning and derisive!
                      Remember - "Freedom to Furgal!" ?
                      The authorities, having read the slogan, said: "And that's all? Pfie! They are not serious, these masters of the country, they are children!", - spat and, grinning, went on about her business. Because it was clear to the authorities that the protest was based on the acute economic problems of the region against the background of the sharply increasing power of China, but the people behaved hypocritically, cowardly exposing Furgal as the reason for taking to the streets. Like, our dignity has been violated! The real protest was too much for the people. Therefore, the hypocrisy of the people themselves was expressed only in long-term parties on the streets, and not in the heat of passions. The intensity happens when it is very painful and not up to hypocrisy. But no one put forward a sick, exciting truth with a slogan that needed to be defended ("Where are our normal salaries? We demand a reduction in interest on loans! Why are oligarchs from Moscow trading in the riches of the region, and we get crumbs from this? Why is the local industry not developing? Where are the necessary laws? And so on. Instead, just think - Furgal!) So the authorities spat on the proposed meaning of the protest, ignoring its true component. will begin to take you seriously. Otherwise, everyone suddenly somehow forgot who is the boss in the house, they somehow lost their lives. And the deficit of the unmarried is such that they have already turned to the Soviet ones. ...
                    4. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 29 March 2021 18: 00
                      +3
                      Quote: depressant
                      Colleague, the less you ask, the less you will be given.

                      Did you not understand me, or did you not want to understand?
                      You propose to solve a mathematical problem without knowing the multiplication table.
                      You, without even knowing at all how protest rallies and demonstrations are organized, offer to immediately "take the bull by the horns" by setting the maximum demands with a silly hope - they will give something? Holy naivete. Victories are given in a long and stubborn struggle, with getting "bumps", with defeats. In the very process of struggle, methods of struggle are worked out, leaders are educated. It all starts with LITTLE, not big. With a big one, this is an instant failure and depression of the people, disbelief in their own strength.
                      No, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, you cannot break the power of the bourgeoisie in a snap.
              3. Korsar4
                Korsar4 29 March 2021 14: 40
                +2
                Still, there are wonderful solutions, like grabbing a pencil into space, not a pen. Also saving resources.
              4. depressant
                depressant 29 March 2021 18: 46
                +4
                The product that suits absolutely everyone appeared in 1965. Engineer Paul C. Fisher, invented a fundamentally new type of writing utensils, which were immediately dubbed the "anti-gravity space pen." The ink in it was under pressure, which was created by nitrogen pumped into the ampoule.
                The ink itself was also unusual - thixotropic, or, in simple terms, had a high viscosity. Due to this feature, they did not evaporate so quickly and remained motionless until the ball began to rotate. By the way, Fischer made that element of the device from tungsten carbide, a hard material that retains its shape well under any impact. Thus, the inventor was reinsured against leaks associated with damage to the ball.

                Fischer's pens were used not only by astronauts, but also by all Soviet cosmonauts.
                They say they are on sale now)))
              5. Korsar4
                Korsar4 29 March 2021 19: 30
                +1
                Thank you, Lyudmila Yakovlevna. If, honestly, did not know the details of the device of this pen.
              6. depressant
                depressant 29 March 2021 20: 40
                +3
                Please always contact us! laughing
                But no materials were found on Fischer's firing pens. There are no materials, but there are holes in the walls of the space station. James Bond films confirm that such pens are possible)))
              7. Korsar4
                Korsar4 29 March 2021 21: 46
                +2
                Thanks, take advantage.
              8. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 29 March 2021 23: 28
                +1
                Good evening, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! I read the comments ..... in continuation of the topic. Akhedzhakova suggested erecting a monument to pedophile Dmitriev on the Lubyanka, and Petrozavodsk philosopher Vadim Shtefa dreams of making Dmitriev prime minister ...
                The maniac is being advertised ..... mank dismembered his wife ..... and the ugly monuments come to mind ..... then Alyonushka, then Yesenin, and the monument to the dead doctors in St. Petersburg, in my opinion, could be different, unfortunately what -that, hmm-hmm, there are a lot of strange figures in Russia today.
                That monuments, that different creative people, all some kind of distortion of reality. Some kind of crooked mirror.
                Now, right now, I’ll go to the books, where I’ll look at socialist realism. !!!!!!
                Wonderful world of socialism! The people who created the country, who built it, who rebuilt it after the Second World War.
              9. depressant
                depressant 30 March 2021 02: 36
                +3
                Dima, normal Soviet people are almost all gone already, could not stand it. Remained mainly
                That monuments, that different creative people, all some kind of distortion of reality. Some kind of crooked mirror.

                Only madmen correspond to the madness of time - this is now the norm. The Soviet era is over, time is relentless. Mentally, that era began to die much earlier than the 90s. The roll was too great, and no era survives without leaders.
                But, surprisingly, there are many wonderful young people. The Soviets did not fertilize history in vain.
              10. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 30 March 2021 03: 19
                +1
                Lyudmila Yakovlevna, I didn't understand something ...
              11. depressant
                depressant 30 March 2021 08: 28
                +3
                Vladimir, what do you not understand? )))
                I am an apologist for a petty-bourgeois state, for 2,5 years now, on all topics of VO, where possible, I demand freedom for small and medium-sized businesses, therefore, realities that are dangerous for a gangster state. For me, the USSR is a beautiful far away, which I tirelessly admire in the tales of the Strugatskys and Efremov and regret that it, fabulous, did not take place, because Stalin's age was short. Soviet old men are either silent, or inadequately demand: "Give us back the USSR!" - and the beautiful-minded young people only reach equally inadequate demands: "Give us Furgal back! Freedom for Navalny! Down with Putin!"
                That is why I am an enemy of the state, but old people and young people are not. For the former will leave, are already leaving in a natural way, while the latter, by their actions objectively leading to the disintegration of the state, will be either suppressed or deceived. And if they succeed, I will find myself in Russia the size of the Moscow region. This is the madness of our time.
                And in general, I'm leaving to read about Andropov (((wassat )))
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              13. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 30 March 2021 09: 09
                +1
                .... Freedom for Navalny! .....
                it is the result of a universal distorting mirror.
                If under the USSR they created an ideal image of the builder of a new society, now what? Judging by the monuments and "creative people" --- the image of something strongly opposite repeat am
              14. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 30 March 2021 23: 08
                +1
                ......about Andropov ....
                . and where did you appear there, Lyudmila Yakovlevna?
                I wanted you smart lol laughing wassat thought to communicate
              15. depressant
                depressant 30 March 2021 23: 28
                +2
                Dima, read that article, it became boring and sad. Maybe by the date it was written. Many resources immediately began to exaggerate the image of Andropov according to the principle "I am not guilty, the current government! It's all done before me! And I'm trying, I'm raking it!" It may be so, but I don’t see any special efforts in raking, only rowing at random, as a result the galley walks in circles or even spins in place.
              16. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 31 March 2021 00: 36
                +1
                Lyudmila Yakovlevna,! Many events after the XX CONGRESS come to me difficultly. There are a huge number of events and their significance is also not always clear ... there are questions that I often ponder, but there is no answer.
                wink laughing .... after these comments of yours he suddenly answered one of these questions for himself: Why did not people speak out in response to Khrushchev's speeches against Stalin. It would seem, why all of a sudden? There are such cases ...
                And the article about Andropov ..... probably a year ago was similar .... the overall picture of what was gradually becoming clearer .. ???
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 30 March 2021 08: 51
        +1
        .......not in vain.....
        The most important thing is that we won fascism. In other words, yours --- I'll think about it! Good morning and good day, Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
  • dSK
    dSK 27 March 2021 12: 56
    +4
    The main argument of the opponents of the death penalty is judicial errors, which were in the USSR (because of the "Belarusian maniac" innocent people were shot).
    The death penalty should be used only if there is 100% proof of guilt. As in the case of the "Belgorod shooter" who killed in broad daylight.
    Only the threat of loss of life, "life-long" will not stop them.
    Yes, and it is an expensive pleasure to feed dozens of years "at the common expense" of fiends who are not going to repent and change for the better. To direct these costs to child allowances ...
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  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 27 March 2021 15: 12
    +5
    Shouldn't the seator Narusova think about, maybe, forbid going to the church wedding in a hearse? Didn't you think? Or is it nice?
  • apro
    apro 27 March 2021 04: 59
    +2
    What time are heroes like that, and what do they ultimately want to do out of the population.
  • nemez
    nemez 27 March 2021 05: 06
    +8
    More than 70% of the population say that it is necessary to introduce the death penalty. Especially for such monsters. Until there is adequate punishment will appear.
    1. raw174
      raw174 27 March 2021 09: 16
      +2
      Quote: nemez
      freaks. Until there is adequate punishment will appear

      The commensurability, adequacy and inevitability of punishment does not affect the level of crime associated with mental disorders and disorders, which are maniacs and persons who commit crimes against sexual inviolability.
    2. Baal
      Baal 27 March 2021 09: 47
      +3
      It's right. Death penalty exit.
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 27 March 2021 05: 15
    +13
    All that Ksyusha has is the connections that dad once developed, and his money of dubious origin. And on her, as usual, nature rested: no talents, no appearance. But I really want to jump over my head. Therefore, he tries to portray creativity. And every time it turns out bad taste, in this case it is also on the verge of immorality.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 27 March 2021 06: 18
      0
      Quote: From Tomsk
      All that Ksyusha has is the connections that dad once developed, and his money of dubious origin.

      So, for clarification. Like we are not like that, life is like that. This is the question of where the strategic reserves have gone. https://booksonline.com.ua/search.php?s=salye&lang=
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 27 March 2021 06: 05
    +11
    Sobchak, aka "Horsehead" since childhood, was deprived of both intelligence and beauty, her only advantage was the big money "earned" by her parents.
    Without any talents, Hsyusha was taught by grammarians that loot can also be earned on the negative.
    And since then, outrageous (deliberately provocative trick or defiant, shocking behavior) has become an outstanding hobbyhorse of the "Secular Rat"! "Scandals and lack of conscience" is the motto of this creature!
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 27 March 2021 07: 08
      +3
      Well, sho you are so stone and in the sparkling showcase of the Yeltsiputin Russian Federation, these are its best people, so to speak, active, purposeful, successful, a role model))) laughing
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  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 27 March 2021 06: 22
    +6
    People like Sobchak think that "the truth is in the money." Alas, apparently her dad and mom taught her this way.
    That Ksyusha "studied the nature of evil"?
    And for a complete immersion, it was necessary that this pervert dragged you to his cellar and "rattled" you there for four years, so that in your head the horse finally appeared the human concept of "what is good and what is bad" !!!
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 27 March 2021 06: 32
    +5
    I am against the death penalty due to the imperfection of the judicial system, especially ours. It will be impossible to revive the mistakenly shot. But it is high time to restore the Soviet practice of recognizing criminals as dangerous for people and society and to lock them up for life, without the right to amnesty and udo.
    And Sobchak ... our "journalism" has long broken through all the bottoms, what is there to discuss?
    1. shtatsov
      shtatsov 27 March 2021 12: 35
      +1
      And on the other hand, are there precedents that a life-sentenced prisoner would be released by mistake?
      1. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 28 March 2021 02: 32
        +1
        But in the States, Robert Duboise was recently released. At first he was sentenced to death, then replaced by life imprisonment and he served 37 years! And just now they did a DNA test - innocent!
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 27 March 2021 15: 22
      +6
      Quote: Sahalinets
      I am against the death penalty due to the imperfection of the judicial system, especially ours. It will be impossible to revive the mistakenly shot. ......?

      I am also against it. There are doubts about this. How would it not turn out that only poor people will be sentenced to death? Or poor people? Or poorly dressed? In short, those who cannot hire an expensive lawyer. Who can --- get out, or even worse ---- substitute the poor for themselves.
      1. dSK
        dSK 27 March 2021 20: 07
        +1
        The death penalty is necessary apply only when there is 100% proof of guilt. As in the case of the "Belgorod shooter" who in broad daylight killed 4 people in the open. There are very few such cases.
        Only the threat of loss of life, even "life-long" will not stop them ...
  • The popuas
    The popuas 27 March 2021 06: 39
    +11
    We've got all television bottom .... so.
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 27 March 2021 07: 33
      +4
      Quite right! But Western TV is even worse! Therefore, channels are only a fisherman and a hunter, and my planet.
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 27 March 2021 07: 19
    +8
    He must feed the worms and entertain the devils, but with our most humane court he got the opportunity to free, live happily ever after. And where is the guarantee that the old will not be taken up? And our court can do amazing things, release real criminals, and punish for any minor offense to the fullest extent of the law.
    1. Obliterator
      Obliterator 27 March 2021 12: 19
      +4
      Quote: Dimy4
      And our court can do amazing things, release real criminals, and punish for any minor offense to the fullest extent of the law.

      And you want to give this court powers to the death penalty?
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 27 March 2021 07: 22
    +7
    Now the film has been released about chikatila, it's not a secret for anyone that in the USSR only galoshes were made, but chikatila wandered.
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    1. 210ox
      210ox 27 March 2021 08: 35
      +3
      That's for sure! The best thing about her and not to remind. This, by the way, is the worst thing for her.
  • Eug
    Eug 27 March 2021 07: 29
    +4
    Sobchak has again achieved her goal - they talk a lot about her, she is again, as they say, "heard". Negative advertising, scandal is also advertising ...
  • parusnik
    parusnik 27 March 2021 07: 31
    +4
    I'm used to guano. Sniffed at the smell; it constantly pours from all the cracks in the media. The culture is the same. Art also. Author, you prohibit all this, created over the past 30 years. Review the humane criminal code, it is very humane. The whole article boils down to condemning Sobchak, why did she do this. In general, then, our society is healthy, friendly, close-knit, patriotic, brought up in guano.
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  • Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 27 March 2021 08: 04
    +4
    And all that is needed is to establish for such creatures the highest measure of humanitarian self-defense ...
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  • Million
    Million 27 March 2021 08: 25
    +4
    Sobchak is a hero of the present time. That's all ... nowadays there is no morality, there is no morality, especially in the upper echelons.
  • Alexilyin
    Alexilyin 27 March 2021 08: 51
    +3
    Spring ..... exacerbation. How many fools have bred in the world!
  • Sgt.
    Sgt. 27 March 2021 08: 52
    +5
    This "bottom" also wanted to become the president.
  • jovanni
    jovanni 27 March 2021 08: 56
    +7
    I don't even know which of these two entities is more disgusting ...
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  • bandabas
    bandabas 27 March 2021 09: 06
    +1
    Ksenia rules! I will not say anything about the deceased. And, Madame Narusova, it still gives off a heat. Normal family. Well, the guarantor in the deck. Like a joker.
  • north 2
    north 2 27 March 2021 09: 13
    +7
    I have not watched the film and will not watch. By the way, I was and forgot about this maniac. So Sobchak's film is not only an advertisement for her beloved herself, but also an advertisement for this maniac and his base instincts. In general, terrible things are happening on Russian television and information portals. Here is a certain singer Anna Korun with the nickname Maruv during the live TV show "Evening Urgant" presented her panties to the TV presenter Urgant. And the body. the transfer of that Urgant coincided in time with a very sad event for all Russians and for people devoted to our values ​​and morality of Russia. This sad event was the death of Irina Antonova, President of the Pushkin State Museum of Fine Arts. So that's it. on many news portals and on the body. channels next to the short news about the death of the world-famous Antonova, next to whole pages and on the whole two-hour TV program there was news and news that the singer Anna Korun with the nickname Maruv gave her panties live to Urgant ..
    So then to be surprised at this Sobchak and her intrigues ...
  • mark2
    mark2 27 March 2021 10: 09
    0
    In the film “Skopinsky Maniac. Free Conversation ", which is almost freely available on YouTube

    How can you accidentally run into this on YouTube? And also watch! YouTube, on the other hand, offers videos by viewing priority. What a person is interested in, then hosting and offers him.
    Or maybe the author himself is an amateur to look for dirt, and then write moralizing and accusatory articles on the topic? Or is he a secret supporter of Sobchak? BUT! Nah! He's a journalist !!! That says it all.
  • iouris
    iouris 27 March 2021 10: 09
    +1
    Sobchak is not a journalist, but a candidate.
  • svoit
    svoit 27 March 2021 10: 29
    0
    Quote: Sahalinets
    I am against the death penalty due to the imperfect judicial system

    Well, you can always make a delay of 3-5 years, for example, and the death penalty is useful, although you are in that it reduces relapses and is economically profitable, and our country is not rich, we cannot afford to support murderers and maniacs, we don’t have enough money
    1. Baal
      Baal 27 March 2021 12: 16
      +3
      Imperfection of the judicial system in crimes against the person? And sexual integrity? Long in the past. Expertise has stepped far. Mistakes like Chikatilovskaya or Vitebsk strangler are excluded.


      In fact, we need a referendum. Whoever wants to feed them should not pay taxes on their maintenance. And who wants to work and pay. Otherwise, they are not even involved in work.

      Why one size fits all?
      We have a democracy.
  • Red Alert
    Red Alert 27 March 2021 11: 05
    +1
    Quote: Bearded
    If Ksyusha Obshchak made a film of how Mokhov rapes her in a basement in a perverted form, she would break all the records on YouTube of Lehi Okhalny.

    Well, why present such ideas? They can also remove
  • Red Alert
    Red Alert 27 March 2021 11: 07
    +2
    Quote: bar
    4,5 million views

    And the author himself did not put a hand in the popularization of these monsters? Also already 3+ thousand views. Maybe it's enough to suck on this dirt? negative

    Don't write about the atrocities of the Nazis too? Take and forget?
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 27 March 2021 11: 24
    +3
    From the person who came to his wedding in a hearse, you can only expect new trash records.
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  • dima314
    dima314 27 March 2021 11: 28
    +5
    I was not too lazy to go to see what the horse was filming there. Disgusting impression from her action and from the character. Maybe I watched for 5 minutes, this is not a creation for adequate people. Everyone who has mastered the art of Sobchachkino to the end should be checked by a psychiatrist. The rapist looks very good for his age, despite the 17 years of imprisonment, and the dog dressed up like a date. All the dog's nest are solid geeks, starting with the daddy and, unfortunately, the guarantor guarantees them a comfortable stay in the country
  • Dizel200
    Dizel200 27 March 2021 11: 33
    +5
    While mom is a senator, and what kind of cattle with lordly manners, she Sobchak will “have fun”. Russian reality.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 27 March 2021 12: 38
      +3
      Quote: Dizel200
      Russian reality.


      Freedom of creativity for Ksyusha and Russophobia for her mother is guaranteed.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 27 March 2021 11: 54
    +6
    In the USA, when they noticed this phenomenon, called "monetization of crime", they did everything to stop this phenomenon! In the Russian Federation, only now, "some" voices were heard ... In Russia, extremely blockhead legislation! Laws of little significance are "willingly" adopted, but you can't wait for the necessary laws ... because the laws necessary for the people, the country often affect the interests of any "masters of life and the country" ... as a result, they run into stubborn resistance from various lobbies! And often life in the country is determined not by the legislation itself, but by the "activities" of state structures; and they are guided "quite often" by their favorite principles ... the principles of tyranny: 1. I turn what I want; and if I don’t want, then and I will not! 2. And my ndrava, do not cross! In fact, the so-called "state bodies" in fact turn out to be irresponsible to their employer by the state, if they do not step on his "pet corns"!
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 28 March 2021 10: 29
      +1
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      In the USA, when they noticed this phenomenon, called "monetization of crime", they did everything to stop this phenomenon! In the Russian Federation, "some" voices have just now been heard.

      Previously, there was no need for this. Now, yes, the need has arisen. Thirty years of "non-Soviet upbringing," I will add that it was not at all Russian, has completely done its job. NOW there is a need, and the most acute one.
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  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 27 March 2021 12: 51
    +1
    This is how we should be in a free democratic world. Thankfully, we are in a minority. For me, I will eat less sausage, but let us have one more warhead than the West.
  • mik193
    mik193 27 March 2021 13: 01
    +4
    The main questions. Why was the maniac released? Why didn't you get a life sentence? Why wasn't he shot while trying to escape?
  • Lontus
    Lontus 27 March 2021 13: 50
    +2
    The female Bogomolov switched to.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 27 March 2021 14: 21
    -1
    I hope Sobchak will end his life as the daughter of Leonid Brezhnev.
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  • Captain45
    Captain45 27 March 2021 15: 13
    +2
    Hang both geeks on one rope, and, as in old England, let them hang until the birds peck, for the edification of others am
  • Irina Komolova
    Irina Komolova 27 March 2021 15: 52
    +2
    Our court is the most humane court in the world. He sets free all murderers and maniacs. They say they have corrected themselves. But maniacs and murderers will never get better, and their place of life is only a prison. And even better - SHOOTING !!!
  • Burdock
    Burdock 27 March 2021 16: 13
    +4
    In the United States, there is a law prohibiting making money from your crimes by publicizing what is done, but this is not there, of course. Yes, there would be this maniac guaranteed to receive life or the death penalty. In such egregious cases, there is a much fairer trial.
  • Captain45
    Captain45 27 March 2021 16: 29
    +1
    Interviewer portrait:
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 28 March 2021 10: 26
      -2
      Having cheated a person personally, do you consider yourself a winner in something? Apparently you're smarter than him, right? Or better brought up? Or is this how you validated your point of view and refuted it? Who's covered up in the shit with your picture, honey?
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 27 March 2021 17: 11
    +4
    The worst thing for the media and the scoundrel is indifference to him. I have a TV like furniture for 4 years already. When asked about digital television, I suggest that they pay me 5-7000 rubles and then I can and will install your cable for myself) People do not understand their value. The channels should pay them for the fact that they watch TV.
  • Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 27 March 2021 19: 20
    +1
    I'm not going to watch this film. That would not do advertising ugly and ugly. How do they just live?
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 27 March 2021 20: 27
    +1
    This, in particular, was confirmed by the success of the series "Doctor House".


    Author .... you wouldn't touch Gregory House, would you? Not in your mind, this is the case ... be like the Komsomol censor of the last century. And the logic is at the same level.

    And it is not necessary to put sick maniacs and criminals on a par with crazy geniuses - yes, when you are overly genius, and often with serious deviations. Tesla was in love with a dove ...
  • Hiller
    Hiller 27 March 2021 21: 13
    +4
    To discuss this substance is not to respect yourself. But it would be right to call to account on the basis of the current legislation. There is a propaganda of violence. And ask the leadership of the federal channel how they combine the Patriarch's program and the appearance on the screen of such a substance ??? Channel management for morality or immorality?
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 28 March 2021 10: 21
    -2
    The craving for everything that is vicious, obviously, is hardwired into a person's subconscious.
    Apparently education is not the strong point of some authors) Yes, the author! You imagine?! "Hardwired"! You see, author, the human brain is a very complex and old system. There are many different things in it, but the main thing is self-preservation and procreation. Almost all the activity of the brain is oriented towards this, and the entire spinal cord, which does not think, but rules the most important systems of the body.
    Therefore, information on how you can get into a mortally dangerous situation, how to get out of it, how others got in and got out (did not get out), who exactly of the people may turn out to be your opponent in your struggle for life, all this will ALWAYS cause increased interest.
    To prohibit such information is idiocy on the verge of debility. The question is different. The one who informs must understand very precisely what and how he is doing, and always act in the best interests of the people. From the point of view of society and for its protection (the excellent Soviet formulation "measure of social protection"), firstly, such information in any form should not bring the informant the slightest profit. Sobchak wanted to conduct an interview with a maniac? Let him pay for the screen time out of his own pocket. And the rest of the hype should bring her serious losses, not profits. Something similar has been operating in the United States for a long time.
  • iouris
    iouris 28 March 2021 12: 08
    +1
    Slepakov gave his comment. I recommend.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 28 March 2021 12: 44
    +2
    This "interview" can cause new "imitators of this scum. The only thing that Sobchak went to her wedding in a hearse speaks of who the" heroes "of her reports are.