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How automobile lend-lease helped the USSR to win the war

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Discussed among experts and amateurs stories regarding Western aid to the Soviet Union during the Great Patriotic War. During the discussion, two peculiar camps have already been formed, in one of which they are completely convinced that without Lend-Lease the USSR could not have won the war, and the other that Lend-Lease did not play a significant role in the success of the Red Army. In reality, the truth, as always, is somewhere in between. For quite understandable reasons, it would be strange not to recognize the importance of the supply of goods and equipment to the USSR by the West, but at the same time it would be strange to declare that without these supplies, Soviet troops would not have reached Berlin.


One of the directions of Lend-Lease was automobile.

During the deliveries, the Soviet Union received almost half a million different vehicles under this program. The overwhelming majority are trucks that could be found on all fronts of the Great Patriotic War, and many of which, later and after the war, were successfully used in a huge country, including in terms of its restoration.

The most massive car that came to the USSR under Lend-Lease was the famous Studebaker US6. This three-axle truck was used both for the transportation of personnel and cargo, and for direct military (combat) purposes. It housed the guides of rocket launchers - the legendary Katyusha.

One of the delusions is that the Soviet Union allegedly got it for nothing. It is not true.

Expert Maxim Kolomiets in Dmitry Puchkov's studio discusses how lend-lease vehicles helped our country win the war:

Photos used:
Wikipedia / Nick Lobeck
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  1. svp67
    svp67 27 March 2021 04: 27
    +7
    I AGREE WITH the lecturer. Yes, the USSR could do without Lend-Lease, but it cost more blood ... So, a HUGE thanks to the USA for this support, but you shouldn't "turn your nose up high"
    1. Machito
      Machito 27 March 2021 19: 45
      -4
      Napoleon was defeated almost alone, with Hitler almost the same. The Euro-fascist Union is weak against Russia.
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 28 March 2021 14: 25
        +1
        You should read about the battle of the peoples or waterloo, or about British money that generously paid for Russia's military expenses
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 28 March 2021 08: 51
      +2
      "Thank you" too much. The received gold was enough for them. American support has always been costly and costly. hi
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 28 March 2021 10: 12
        0
        Lend-Lease was a help. But not free. Especially at the very beginning of the Great Patriotic War. We have, as always, extremes.
        1. bobba94
          bobba94 28 March 2021 12: 28
          +3
          "The supplied materials (cars, various military equipment, weapons, raw materials and other items), destroyed and used during the war, are not subject to payment; property transferred under the Lend-Lease, remaining after the end of the war and suitable for civilian purposes, will be paid in full or partially (depreciation) .... After the war, if the American side is interested, the undamaged and unused machinery and equipment must be returned to the United States. " The United States Defense Act of 11.03.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX This is the so-called Lend-Lease Act
  2. Siberian54
    Siberian54 27 March 2021 07: 11
    -6
    The convoy PQ17 abandoned by the British and the next delayed, paid for in gold, cost us the Battle of Stalingrad ... In 42, supplies from the allies were of strategic importance, with the restoration of military production in the east in 43, their importance, although supplies increased many times at a tactical level, more turning into a political plane
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 27 March 2021 10: 59
      +6
      convoy PQ17and detained next paid in gold, one hundred

      ,, gold was paid only for the pre-lend-lease deliveries of 1941, and for the rest of the years the deliveries were not subject to payment.
      1. Siberian54
        Siberian54 28 March 2021 06: 54
        +4
        So the "golden" one was sent to the bottom and the next one, too, the "golden" one was detained ... these two caravans did not come exactly when the Supreme by the piece distributed weapons to the fronts.
        1. bubalik
          bubalik 28 March 2021 08: 33
          +1
          and the next one, also "golden", was detained.
          ,, well, in this case, we must pay tribute to the Germans, even with the presence of the guard of the convoy pq-18, they thoroughly thinned it out.
    2. mvg
      mvg 27 March 2021 13: 51
      0
      Definitely to the first camp .. Without Lend-Lease, and the bombing of the Reich, we would not have held out until the end of 42. Somehow everyone forgets that 2/3 of the Luftwaffe operated on the Western Front. The USSR never had the opportunity to send 1000+ bombers plus 300+ fighters, bombard the distant rear. As of May 1945, there were as many as 48 long-range bombers in the USSR Air Force, of which 4/5 were Liberators and B-17/29 who had crashed.
      The Third Reich never once fulfilled the monthly plan for the production of tanks or aircraft during the war. Just because of the Allied bombing.
      1. svp67
        svp67 28 March 2021 08: 25
        +4
        Quote: mvg
        Without Lend-Lease, and the bombing of the Reich, we would not have held out until the end of 42.

        But somehow they held out ... You read the history of the issue well, by the date you indicated there were no massive bombings or deliveries ...
        Quote: mvg
        Somehow everyone forgets that 2/3 of the Luftwaffe operated on the Western Front.

        Again, FROM WHAT PERIOD?
        For example, data on single-engine and twin-engine fighters of the Luftwaffe (including night) on the Eastern Front was 61% in 1942, then a drop to 30% in 1944, then the Germans still increased the share of fighters against the USSR to 41%.
        1. mvg
          mvg 28 March 2021 19: 43
          -2
          there have been no massive bombings, no supplies ...

          Sergei, I would not read ... I would not write. The first deliveries, via Iran, began a month after the outbreak of the war. We brazenly made a coup in Iran and deliveries began.
          So, by the way, 40% of gunpowder and explosives from imported "components", 600 thousand cars (99 out of 100 Katyushas on the Studebaker chassis), machine tools for the T-34-85 (otherwise it would not have been, perhaps not at all), molybdenum, tungsten , copper) - this is for armor, brass and shells .. but the fact that most of the aces fought on imported aircraft? The fact that the P-63 Kingcobra (2000 units) was all taken over the Urals, in case of a war with the United States, the only fighter that could fight the B-29. Dural, radar, Matilda, Shchermany .. a lot of things.
          PS: Most importantly, the Naglo-Saxons from the United States did not allow the Germans to stick their faces out from the ports and organize a blockade of the USSR.
          And they restrained Japan from landing in the Far East. Plus, 44-45 years old, the Luftwaffe and Panzerwaffe stood without fuel.
          1. svp67
            svp67 29 March 2021 05: 49
            +2
            Quote: mvg
            So, by the way, 40% of gunpowder and explosives from imported "components", 600 thousand cars (99 out of 100 Katyushas on the Studebaker chassis), machine tools for the T-34-85 (otherwise it would not have been, perhaps not at all), molybdenum, tungsten , copper) - this is for armor, brass and shells ..

            For what period? The main deliveries went after the 42nd year. So, that the most difficult time, the USSR withstood, with minimal economic assistance from the allies
            Quote: mvg
            but the fact that most of the aces fought on imported aircraft

            Of the 2271 aviators who were awarded the high title of Hero of the Soviet Union - 860 are ground attack pilots, by the way, there are the most of them, on which imported aircraft did they fight? Tell me
            And of the 836 people who received this title in fighter aviation, not all flew on imported cars, the same Kozhedub did not fight them for a day.
            Quote: mvg
            The fact that the P-63 Kingcobra (2000 units) was all taken over the Urals, in case of a war with the United States, the only fighter that could fight the B-29.

            No, you're wrong. For such a case, the USSR had projects of "heavily armed" fighters with 37-mm and even 45-mm cannons, already tested in battles, this is the Yak-9T
            1. Avior
              Avior April 1 2021 09: 54
              +2
              most of the aces fought on imported aircraft

              out of the six most successful aces, 4 fought in aerocobras.
              Despite the fact that the aircraft was delivered in limited quantities.
              1. svp67
                svp67 April 1 2021 10: 02
                0
                Quote: Avior
                out of the six most successful aces, 4 fought in aerocobras.

                And this is thanks to Pokryshkin. Young and inexperienced pilots who had not gone through aerobatics school on the I-16 did not master the Aerocobra with its rear centering.
                1. Avior
                  Avior April 1 2021 10: 20
                  +1
                  Rechkalov and Pokryshkin served together.
                  but Rechkalov flew the I-153 at the beginning of the war, and Pokryshkin flew the MiG-3.
                  Gulyaev and Glinka, independently of each other and from Pokryshkin, served, they did not fight on the I-16, they generally began to fight in 1942.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 April 1 2021 14: 05
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    but Rechkalov flew an I-153 at the beginning of the war,

                    So what? This did not prevent him from changing seats and mastering the I-16.
                    The transition to the I-16 also proceeded in a militant fashion - without the necessary bureaucracy in peacetime:
                    That day I parted with my "seagull".
                    They say the "damn dozen" - the tail number of my "seagull" - an unlucky number. I'm not superstitious, but I believed in omens, like some of our guys. Shave before departure? God forbid! Did you come across a woman? Be in trouble. And yet the "thirteenth" served me well. About a dozen air battles, three downed planes and more than thirty sorties in a seagull - that meant something in those days.
                    Cautious and indecisive Dubinin finally heeded my request:
                    - Do you see the "Nine"? - He pointed to the darkening in the bushes "I-sixteenth". - Take it. Fly in a circle and pilot in the zone.
                    And here I am in the repaired Gorodetsky fighter. The motor works wonderfully well. The car is easy and obedient to operate.
                    “That's great, commander. Excellent! - inspecting the cabin after each landing, Bogatkin said ...
                    Quote: Avior
                    Pokryshkin on the MiG-3.

                    But before that he flew an I-16 and, moreover, he had to fight on it.
                    Quote: Avior
                    Gulyaev and Glinka, independently of each other and from Pokryshkin, served, they did not fight on the I-16, they generally began to fight in 1942.

                    Gulyaev or Gulaev? if the latter, and he Twice GSS, then in December 1940 Nikolai Gulaev graduated from the Stalingrad Military Aviation School. He served in the Air Force as a pilot in a fighter aviation regiment. He flew an I-16 fighter.
                    Glinka brothers
                    Dmitry Borisovich - in 1939 he graduated from the Kachin Military Aviation Pilot School. He served in the 45th IAP (based in Baku), flew an I-16. He graduated from the flight commander courses.
                    Boris Borisovich - it was not possible to find information about the types of aircraft they mastered about him, but he was an instructor pilot for a long time
                    After graduating from the Odessa Military Aviation School, he was appointed an instructor pilot.
            2. mvg
              mvg April 2 2021 23: 56
              +1
              So, that the most difficult time, the USSR withstood, with minimal economic assistance from the allies

              After the war, after the cooling of relations with former allies, the role of Lendleese was deliberately understated. They started talking about 4% lend-lease in relation to what was produced by the domestic industry ... this is not true.
              The role of the West was deliberately underestimated in the victory over fascism. Why - I do not understand. Everything that was supplied by the allies immediately went into action ... namely, scarce "goods", and even better quality that could be mastered by the domestic industry. Whether it's tanks, planes, duralumin or just a bar of chocolate.
              projects of "heavily armed" fighters with 37-mm and even 45-mm cannons, already tested in battles, are the Yak-9T

              Sergei, I'm afraid that you are wrong here, at all. The Yak-9T was inferior to the Me-109G-2 and FW-190A. Wooden plane, the best of the Yaks, but not good enough for the B-29. 23/37/45 mm guns were placed against the German armored vehicles, not against the bomber-off. 45 mm cannon, destroyed its aircraft faster than the enemy ... a very weakly armed machine. 10 rounds for a 45 mm cannon and 1 UBS in the motor.
              Without a pressurized cabin and an oxygen mask, how will he fight at 10 thousand meters ???
              Don't make it up. At the end of the war, the Fritz and I had a ratio of about 9.6 to 1, and that's what they took. And the Naglo-Saxons and the Americans fought with them at least on an equal footing since the beginning of the war. Spits and then Mustangs outnumbered the best versions of Me and FW.
              Of the 2271 aviators who were awarded the high title of Hero of the Soviet Union, 860 are ground attack pilots

              We didn’t have such a bomber as Boston, for example, a B-3 "our way." Well, for the Liberators or B-2/2, there is no need to speak. How many of the 20 aviators were awarded the title of Hero of the Union posthumously? No drooling about heroism, but the main thing is to win, not die.
              1. svp67
                svp67 April 3 2021 07: 08
                0
                Quote: mvg
                We never had a bomber like Boston

                Was - Tu-2
                1. mvg
                  mvg April 3 2021 20: 07
                  +1
                  Was - Tu-2

                  Got excited. He was inferior to Boston in everything. In armament, speed, range, bomb load (normal) twice. Compare the number of fighters, from 42 to 44 Tu-2s were produced 450 units, and A-20 only in 43 the USSR received 1360 vehicles.
                  If we take 43 g, then this is 1000 more than the Tu-2. At the same time, he was both a scout and a torpedo bomber and a transport aircraft and a night fighter, and they installed radar ...
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 April 4 2021 08: 28
                    0
                    Quote: mvg
                    Got excited.

                    Not in any way
                    Quote: mvg
                    He was inferior to Boston in everything.

                    No, this is your speculation ...
                    Quote: mvg
                    Armed,

                    Bostons came to us armed with 7,62-mm machine guns, which we replaced with 12,7-mm UBS. UBS was also installed on the Tu-2.
                    Quote: mvg
                    speed,

                    Tu-2 at an altitude of 6000 m was 521, in contrast to 510 at Boston
                    Quote: mvg
                    range

                    Practical range of Boston - 1650 km, for Tu-2 - 2000 km
                    Quote: mvg
                    bomb load (normal) twice.

                    In terms of bomb load, in normal load they both carried up to 1000 kg, in overload up to 3000 kg of bombs
        2. mvg
          mvg 28 March 2021 19: 45
          -4
          Again, FROM WHAT PERIOD?

          I cited figures from a Russian-language site .. 2/3 is at least ... much more. All the novelties of the Wehrmacht went to the Western Front. Does this mean something?
      2. Siberian54
        Siberian54 28 March 2021 18: 35
        +5
        mvg-you are probably from the generation who studied the history of the Second World War in two paragraphs in the textbook .. The entire gigantic volume of supplies under the lend-lease is 4% of the total expenses of the USSR for the Second World War .. Almost 95% of the supplies summer 43 and beyond .. For the offensive defeat of the Reich, this aid essential but secondary, and in the defense of 42 years it is generally very important but not essential due to the small volume of cargo delivered.BUT it is strategically important in the political plane - the alliance of two states actually fighting against the Reich and the emergence of the possibility of preventing a military conflict on the wreckage of the Reich, which prevented the UK from implementing various plans of the "unthinkable" type However, they were mainly stopped by cousins ​​who did not need extra competitors in Europe and need an ally in Asia.
        1. mvg
          mvg 28 March 2021 19: 55
          -3
          you are probably from the generation who studied the history of the Second World War in two paragraphs in the textbook

          May God grant you and your children to learn the way I do. This generation of yours is zombified at school and zombie box. For your 4%, ask just such (USSR) textbooks ...
          How the Red Army knew how to fight, it showed in the Finnish War and on the Halkin-Gol, I hope your zombie does not apply to this?
          Read the normal sources yourself, then ask the question, where did the Finns get such a large number of captured T-26 and T-28, why did we put 500 thousand soldiers and a bunch of equipment there.
          Read about the Kharkov operation, about 800 thousand prisoners in three assaults. And ask yourself a question: If in the first year of the war we lost almost all the armored vehicles and aviation, then where did it come from later, if the factories were engaged in evacuation to the Urals ??? An elementary question.
          PS: I understand that 70 years of zombies are not "khukhry-muhry", but there should be logic.
          1. Siberian54
            Siberian54 28 March 2021 22: 12
            +1
            Trophies from the Raat road where, showing massive heroism, a motorized division in my opinion 44. except for the one who had a shaggy paw in the GPU, the entire leadership was shot for loss of control and violation of the charter, expressed in the absence of lateral security
    3. Tavrik
      Tavrik 28 March 2021 21: 40
      0
      Talking about Lend-Lease without mentioning PQ-17 is like a village without a fool. Well, yes, we conducted dozens of convoys and once ... made a wrong decision. Now all the "patriots" relish it in every way. Why don't you remember "New Year's fight"? Probably because it is not in our rules to draw attention to the courageous and skillful actions of our allies. By the way, PQ-18 went into operation at the end of September. This is to the question of the alleged delay after PQ-17.
  3. 1536
    1536 27 March 2021 10: 35
    0
    We do all the information from the point of view of the United States. So why not raise the question of whether Lend Lease was beneficial for the United States itself, for American entrepreneurs, bankers, politicians, for all those who really fought the Japanese in the Pacific Ocean, who landed in Normandy, who met with the soldiers of the Red Army on R. Elbe? Yes, Lend Lease was beneficial to all of them! Therefore, they went for it, concluding agreements on the Lend Lease at the end of 1941. And then the next question arises, why at the end of December 1941? Why not 1940, or at least July 1941?
    Whenever I say “thank you for Lend Lease” to Americans, I remember the ATM, which gave me five thousand rubles and didn’t “gobble up” the card at the same time.
    1. Siberian54
      Siberian54 28 March 2021 07: 24
      +6
      Aviation is the main supply of the "Air Cobra" - is not in service with the US Army, the "student" - before the landing in Normandy, the army was not needed in large quantities, tanks - again, before the landing in Europe, they also did not need thousands of them. a lot of things that were not produced during the war in the USSR were on the "secret list" and were not supplied .. Lend-Lease allowed developing the necessary industry in comfortable conditions. This is what it looks like from the United States. drinks
      1. svp67
        svp67 28 March 2021 08: 09
        +3
        Quote: Siberian54
        "studer" - before the landing in Normandy, large numbers of the army were not needed

        And he was not in service with them. "Studebaker" was sent only to the armies of the US allies under the Lend-Lease program.
        And the US Army was equipped with more technically advanced International Harvester trucks.
        1. Siberian54
          Siberian54 28 March 2021 08: 37
          +2
          svp67-thanks for the hint.
      2. Avior
        Avior April 1 2021 09: 22
        +3
        Lend-lease is the provision of money.

        With the money allocated by the Americans, the USSR ordered from the lists what it considered necessary. There was a whole Soviet mission in the States for this.
        Firms wishing to participate in the program provided a sample with a description, and were interested in the Soviet side choosing their proposal.
        1. Siberian54
          Siberian54 April 2 2021 17: 40
          0
          avor-Unfortunately, there was a list of equipment and machinery prohibited for sale, and this list is not on one page .. I just answered "1536" about the benefits of American industrialists from Lend-Lease
          1. Avior
            Avior April 2 2021 18: 18
            +4
            Bombers, for example, included Boston, for example.
            If it got into the list, it could be selected.
            But there are a few things to keep in mind.
            1. It was possible to choose from the lists whatever got there. And if for some reason this item was not on the list, then it was difficult to order it. And it could not be on the list for various reasons - for example, the capacities were fully loaded.
            The opportunities for the Uavierians were great, but not limitless.
            2 Lend Lease consisted of helping the USSR during the war, and not the benefits of the USSR after its end, so it is obvious that the Americans did not consider it necessary to allocate money for the fact that the USSR did not need it directly for the war with the Germans. What Shirokorad writes about prohibitions, you need to ask him for details, he composed the parties.
            3. The USSR had a shortage and bottlenecks in many directions, so even if the Americans did not include something in the lists, it was always possible to order another, also acutely needed
    2. svp67
      svp67 28 March 2021 07: 59
      +7
      Quote: 1536
      Whenever I say “thank you for Lend Lease” to Americans, I remember the ATM, which gave me five thousand rubles and didn’t “gobble up” the card at the same time.

      The comparison is not correct. The ATM gives you cash and does not "eat" the card in accordance with the CONTRACT that you signed with the Bank before. And if you are so sensitive, then you should probably say THANK YOU for the sunrise and sunset.
      But seriously, I calmly say THANK YOU to the Americans, at least for the fact that their supplies under Lend-Lease, and not only weapons, helped the USSR save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives in this terrible war. If you do not understand this, then it is bad
      1. 1536
        1536 28 March 2021 08: 21
        +1
        I am ready to agree. There are people who do not understand the essence of historical events or actions of certain states, focus only on facts or events that happened in a given short period of time, but at the same time try to impose their opinion. They are very similar to today's Americans.
    3. your1970
      your1970 28 March 2021 22: 11
      -1
      Quote: 1536
      Whenever I say “thank you for Lend Lease” to Americans, I remember the ATM, which gave me five thousand rubles and didn’t “gobble up” the card at the same time.
      - well, here you have to be precise and remember - that the USSR didn’t put anything on this card in practice.
      All attempts by the United States to extort even a pretty penny from the USSR ended in almost nothing ... so the benefits for them are relative and practically have no financial expression
      .Z.Y. I totally and unconditionally approve of Stalin's policy in this matter. I would have lost all types of trucks "in battle" so as not to return and pay ...
  4. ccsr
    ccsr 27 March 2021 11: 13
    -2
    VO has published a series of articles by Sergei Linnik on the use of captured equipment and weapons from the first months of the war. The author has carefully researched the materials on this issue, and he can be trusted as an expert. So in the first, most difficult years, we used a huge amount of captured equipment, and not what the allies supplied us. So the issue of using Lend-Lease vehicles should be considered from the point of view of how it correlated with captured cars, motorcycles, etc., otherwise many comparisons are made only on the basis of what was produced in our country.
    1. Avior
      Avior April 1 2021 09: 24
      +2
      in the early years we retreated. Where did we get the trophy equipment in noticeable quantities?
      1. ccsr
        ccsr April 1 2021 12: 26
        -1
        Quote: Avior
        in the early years we retreated. Where did we get the trophy equipment in noticeable quantities?

        Here is information on the trophies of only one army of the Western Front in 1941-1942:
        Some of the captured vehicles to be repaired were evacuated to factories in Moscow. For example, only 5th Army of the Western Front from December 1941 to April 10, 1942 was sent to the rear for the repair of 411 units of captured equipment (medium tanks - 13, light tanks - 12, armored vehicles - 3, tractors - 24, armored personnel carriers - 2, self-propelled guns - 2, trucks - 196, cars - 116, motorcycles - 43. In addition, during the same period, units of the army collected 741 units of captured equipment at SPAMs (collection points for emergency vehicles) (medium tanks - 33, light tanks - 26, armored vehicles - 3, tractors - 17, armored vehicles - 2, self-propelled guns - 6 , trucks - 462, cars - 140, motorcycles - 52), and 38 more tanks (PzKpfw I - 2, PzKpfw II - 8, PzKpfw III - 19, PzKpfw IV - 1, Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) - 1, artillery tanks (as in Soviet documents of the first year of the war, assault guns StuG III) - 7) was registered in the places of the past battles. During April-May 1942, most of this equipment was removed to the rear.

        https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/dragomir/post121822402/
        1. Avior
          Avior April 1 2021 13: 26
          +3
          What you described is a special case, the results of the Battle of Moscow, an atypical case.
          Trophy equipment usually does not serve for very long - there are no spare parts, there are no necessary fuels and lubricants, and there are no skills to use it either.
          According to the link given, this is all the technique - most of it was immediately melted down, the rest is a drop in the ocean.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr April 1 2021 14: 09
            -1
            Quote: Avior
            Trophy equipment usually does not serve for very long - there are no spare parts, there are no necessary fuels and lubricants, and there are no skills to use it either.

            What are you talking about, if we even had artillery regiments armed with German guns, and the first domestic VHF direction finder was created on captured equipment in 1941, and then they were already mass-produced using trophies. Some of our aviation regiments had German radio stations on all aircraft, and for this, even special mounts and adapters were developed at the Air Force Research Institute during the war.
            So the issue of trophies is far from secondary, and there was a special order, according to which trophy teams were created to collect them.
            Quote: Avior
            According to the link given, this is all the technique - most of it was immediately melted down, the rest is a drop in the ocean.

            What is the point, for example, to melt a captured German car if it is on the move and can be used until it is destroyed, and only then, of course, for melting.
            1. Avior
              Avior April 1 2021 14: 34
              +3
              And who told you that all of the above was on the move and its restoration made sense?
              This is a list of all kinds of equipment in different states.
              And about the use of captured equipment, of course it was used, in some cases for a long time, sometimes even the production of spare parts was established.
              But in general, most of the captured equipment was not used for a long time - or it did not make sense to repair it in the absence of spare parts, or during operation for the same reason.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr April 1 2021 15: 04
                0
                Quote: Avior
                And who told you that all of the above was on the move and its restoration made sense?

                I knew a retired colonel who himself traveled to aviation regiments and installed German radios on our aircraft. Moreover, already as a member of the trophy commission, he visited German factories after the end of the war and took out finished products, including components, especially finger radio tubes, which was a great rarity for us in general. All this was done in order to repair captured equipment, which continued to be used in the troops.
                Well, the captured German Opel had one front-line soldier in my yard in the sixties - so even after 20 years after the war, they ran along the roads with us.
                1. Avior
                  Avior April 1 2021 17: 40
                  +2
                  Everything that you describe is isolated cases.
                  You can still find samples of such equipment - both radio and auto
                  But they did not and do not do the weather.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr April 1 2021 18: 37
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                    Quote: Avior
                    Everything that you describe is isolated cases.

                    Because the bulk of the trophies was destroyed during the battles in the same way as our equipment and weapons, so few of them remained. Even partisan detachments were constantly bombarded with trophy ammunition. they used German weapons more often.
  5. Free wind
    Free wind 27 March 2021 14: 42
    +5
    Of course, the lend-lease helped, but they adopted the design ideas, the views and study of technology helped .. Look at the Studer and ZiS 151 bridges or ZIL 157, GAZ 51. Well, the Studebaker bridge is clearly visible. Moreover, Studebaker was not very whimsical to gasoline. The sixty-sixth ate only on the way, as in the aftermath of the ZIL-157. And there was no lower quality gasoline.
    1. Siberian54
      Siberian54 28 March 2021 07: 03
      +1
      Gas-51 pre-war model not delivered for assembly because of the war ..
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 28 March 2021 07: 13
        +2
        Yes, but with a worm gear of the bridge. Have you dealt with this mechanism? Well, the appearance of the cockpit.
        1. Siberian54
          Siberian54 28 March 2021 08: 40
          0
          Only in the steering gear
        2. mat-vey
          mat-vey 28 March 2021 08: 45
          0
          Quote: Free Wind
          Yes, but with a worm gear of the bridge.

          You have no data on what was the rationale for this decision?
          1. Free wind
            Free wind 28 March 2021 10: 18
            +1
            Hypoid transmission requires very precise dimensions and adjustments.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 28 March 2021 10: 22
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              Quote: Free Wind
              Hypoid transmission requires very precise dimensions and adjustments.

              So it is with worm problems ... especially free play and a wedge when worn out .. That's not entirely clear the choice became ...
              1. Free wind
                Free wind 28 March 2021 12: 51
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                Why? I do not know. Problems, of course, are over the roof.
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 28 March 2021 13: 01
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                  Quote: Free Wind
                  Why? I do not know.

                  It's a pity))) .. It's just interesting sometimes what is the reason for making, let's say, not quite unambiguous engineering and design decisions .. After all, when they determined what to order under Lend-Lease, they nevertheless very competently took into account and what to modify or redo it is desirable to quite competently determine ..
                  1. Free wind
                    Free wind 28 March 2021 13: 20
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                    The crown of the driven gear, in the worm gear, was brass.
                    1. mat-vey
                      mat-vey 28 March 2021 13: 26
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                      Quote: Free Wind
                      The crown of the driven gear, in the worm gear, was brass.

                      Even more incomprehensible is the use of scarce materials ...
  6. smaug78
    smaug78 27 March 2021 16: 11
    +3
    Quote: ccsr
    the first, most difficult years, we used a huge amount of captured equipment
    Will the warehouse manager please with normal numbers or will old people and others go back to work? laughing
    1. Siberian54
      Siberian54 28 March 2021 07: 05
      +1
      fellow Here are interesting people "couch fighters", they are even too lazy to wiggle their gyrus, whence "a lot of trophies when retreating"? Or do you just like to knock on the keyboard?
  7. Nikolai Miracles
    Nikolai Miracles 28 March 2021 07: 36
    -8
    The Allies landed in Normandy on June 6, 1944, and on June 23, Operation Bagration began from the Vitebsk-Orsha-Zhlobin, Orsha line, 108 km from Smolensk. By the end of August we reached Warsaw and Riga. It was in this year that the USSR received the maximum supply.
    Now subtract half of the aluminum, half of the TNT, a third of the gunpowder, and all the four-wheel drive vehicles (there weren't any of our own). Who in this situation will be the first to enter Berlin?
    1. Siberian54
      Siberian54 28 March 2021 07: 57
      +1
      Did I write something bad about the supply of the necessary things under Lend-Lease? In my comments, two things - the seventh abandoned convoy and the eighth detainee did not deliver weapons for ten divisions (approximately, but rather more) and the spoon was way to dinner and the German offensive in the summer of 42 could choke on the Don and not near Stalingrad. And in 43 and beyond, production at its own factories already covered losses and allowed to accumulate reservesAllied supplies of aid in 1942, strategically important, and since 1943, in addition to some positions (aluminum, gunpowder), it has become an important but not the primary (tactical) factor of victory
      1. Nikolai Miracles
        Nikolai Miracles 28 March 2021 08: 07
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        I didn't mean your comment. Just aluminum, TNT and gunpowder, as well as ALL four-wheel drive vehicles in their absence, became critical factors in their lack. Victory has been won with these resources. Without them, our flag cannot be at the Reichstag.
  8. gig334
    gig334 28 March 2021 13: 34
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    It is still unknown how much gold the USSR under Stalin during the Second World War paid for this supposedly free lend-lease. If someone believes that the United States did it for free, if someone naively believes in helping the United States at that moment, then he is just a naive person who likes to step on the same rake. During the period of VM, the USA made a lot of money, got rich, which helped them get out of the protracted crisis, which began in the early 30s. And in general, if it were not for the United States, which actively helped Hitler before the war, it might not have been that war. It got to the point that American corporations were actively doing business with Hitler, even during the war. From the USA to Germany went oil, trucks, aircraft parts, etc. And after this hypocrisy, profit on blood, say thank you to the USA, you have to be a masochist or a fool.


    "1941. The Red Army is in a difficult situation, we urgently need a lot of weapons, ammunition, munitions and equipment.
    And now none other than the Secretary of State of the United States, Dean Acheson, arrives in Kolyma.
    There is only one goal - to be convinced of the solvency of the USSR, or, simply put, to look at the potential of the Soviet gold mining industry.
    To impress the American, in his presence the seals were torn from the flushing locks of the machines that trapped gold.
    The mountains of gold nuggets made such an impression on him that, according to eyewitnesses, his pupils dilated, he took off his hat and declared that he was 100 percent sure of the solvency of the USSR.
    Naturally, he was not interested in the thousands of liters of blood of Soviet soldiers that were shed on those days. After all, blood is not gold.
    it is still not known exactly how much gold was paid for American deliveries. Some say the figure is 510 tons, others - 1500 tons. "
    1. gig334
      gig334 28 March 2021 13: 56
      +2
      And we can also say thank you to the United States for the fact that after the war they snatched away from the Soviet justice many Nazi criminals. And for the fact that they bombed German cities in those places where the advancing red army was supposed to come. And the Americans did this so that the USSR did not get the German factories and technologies that were preserved.
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 28 March 2021 14: 31
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      How bae everything is known
      The volume of American supplies under Lend-Lease amounted to about $ 10,8 billion. According to the law on lend-lease, only equipment that had survived the war was subject to payment; to agree on the total amount immediately after the end of the war, Soviet-American negotiations began. In the United States, it was initially calculated that the amount payable for the surviving civilian equipment and equipment, taking into account their wear and tear, is $ 2,6 billion, for negotiations this amount was halved, to $ 1,3 billion. [45 ] [46] [47] In the 1948 negotiations, the Soviet representatives agreed to pay only $ 170 million and met the predictable refusal of the American side. Negotiations in 1949 also did not lead to anything (the Soviet side increased the proposed amount to $ 200 million, with an installment plan for 50 years, the American side reduced it to $ 1 billion, with an installment plan for 30 years). In 1951, the Americans twice reduced the amount of payment, which became equal to $ 800 million, but the Soviet side agreed to pay only $ 300 million

      An agreement with the USSR on the procedure for paying off lend-lease debts was concluded only in 1972 [49]. Under this agreement, the USSR pledged to pay $ 2001 million by 722, including interest. By July 1973, three payments were made for a total of $ 48 million, after which payments were stopped due to the introduction of discriminatory measures by the American side in trade with the USSR (Jackson-Vanik Amendment).

      In the end, Russia paid off, but since the debt was interest-free, only an installment plan was supposed to be paid on which they could not agree in any way, inflation had already eaten up the entire real cost of the debt
    3. Avior
      Avior April 1 2021 09: 28
      +2
      It is still unknown how much gold the USSR under Stalin during the Second World War paid for this supposedly free lend-lease.

      It’s very well known that I didn’t pay a penny. The first payments of small amounts were under Brezhnev, in 1973.
  9. svoit
    svoit 28 March 2021 17: 18
    -2
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Lend-Lease was a help. But not free

    It was free, but the supply of Great Britain with dominions for a gold piece, you should not mix one with the other.
    1. Avior
      Avior April 1 2021 09: 30
      +2
      The British had a similar free lend-lease
      but the USSR simultaneously carried out ordinary trade separately from the Lend-Lease
  10. Tavrik
    Tavrik 28 March 2021 21: 57
    -1
    Quote: mvg
    Somehow everyone forgets that 2/3 of the Luftwaffe operated on the Western Front

    I have met this figure many times. I fully admit that it was so. Can you provide a link to an authoritative source, I want to read the question?
    Do not offer Wikipedia. laughing
  11. Tavrik
    Tavrik 28 March 2021 22: 03
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    You should read the history of the issue well, by the date you indicated there were no massive bombings or deliveries yet.

    There seemed to be no bombing of Germany, just 90% of the Kriegsmarine were solving combat missions in the "west" in the broad sense of the word. The Luftwaffe was doing something in France, Africa, the Mediterranean. Well, the Afrika Korps is good that it was African, and not, for example, "Caucasian". And these are all people, tanks, ships, planes, which were not on the eastern front. And thank God.
    1. Nikolai Miracles
      Nikolai Miracles 29 March 2021 05: 56
      -1
      Of particular importance were the battles with the Iraqi army, which supported Germany, in May 1941.
      https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5c2bb5cbea039800abdc8fd6/kak-irak-za-gitlera-voeval-5e4f6f55fd27690308677e2c
  12. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 29 March 2021 15: 05
    -1
    Of course, the USSR could have won without Lend-Lease, and it could have cost more blood from the Soviet people, but even more blood to the Germans and the Western allies of the USSR.
    Specifically, Lend-Lease vehicles could be replaced - trophy cars, horses, people, locomotives, cable cars, pipelines, sea, river and rail transport. Under the lend-lease of the USSR, until April 1945 received no more than 20-25% of the total car park in the army and in the national economy.
    1. Nikolai Miracles
      Nikolai Miracles 29 March 2021 17: 22
      -2
      There were no four-wheel drive vehicles of our own.
    2. Avior
      Avior April 1 2021 09: 35
      +2
      The main supplies of Lend-Lease were not related to weapons, but to ensuring the normal operation of Soviet industry - machine tools and other bottlenecks
  13. snku
    snku April 6 2021 01: 50
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    If you want to argue about the role of Lend-Lease in our Victory, then I propose to argue not with me or even much more authoritative experts on the issue, but with the assessment of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the USSR, Marshal I.V. Stalin. During the Tehran conference of the leaders of the three allied powers in November 1943 (that is, after the victories at Stalingrad and the Kursk Bulge), Stalin literally said the following: “I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the President and the United States have done to win the war. The most important things in this war are machines. The United States has proven it can produce between 8,000 and 10,000 aircraft per month. Russia can produce at most 3000 aircraft per month. England produces 3000-3500 a month, mostly heavy bombers. Thus, the United States is a land of machines. Without these Lend-Lease cars we would lose this war».
  14. zimzinov
    zimzinov April 9 2021 00: 04
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    And where did the Anglo-Saxons go, how not to help us? Yes, they had no way out as a Lend-Lease for the USSR to include. Otherwise, Hitler would have grabbed England and took her colonies. Then it would have come down to the USA. In addition, Germany was working on the atomic bomb. Without the car, our offensive would have slowed down and Germany would have had a chance to create a bomb. And on the FAU-2 to shandrah it around London. Well, Russian gold for deliveries was not superfluous.