Ukraine wants to once again cancel conscript military service

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy approved yesterday the NSDC decision "On Ukraine's Military Security Strategy", adopted on the same day. In it, among other things, it is reported that in Ukraine they actually want to abolish military service once again and begin to form the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine exclusively at the expense of contract soldiers.

Zelensky's decree, which says this, was published on the official website of the President of Ukraine.

Given the fact that there are not many people willing to go to serve in Ukraine, one should expect that Zelensky will be accused of “zrada”. Even taking into account the fact that conscripts are not sent to war, for some reason they are not eager to join the army. For example, in the fall of 2018, only every 12th conscript appeared on the summons to the military registration and enlistment offices. They even had to be caught in public places.

In fact, Ukraine already has experience in the army's transition to a contract system. Viktor Yanukovych issued a decree abolishing military service from the beginning of 2014, and then Maidan and a change of power took place. Immediately after the coup and with the outbreak of the war in Donbass, acting President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchinov again ordered the return of military service. Even this measure was then considered insufficient, therefore, in addition to returning to the conscription, the mobilization of reservists began in Nezalezhnaya. At the same time, Yanukovych was accused of betraying the interests of Ukraine in connection with the same decree on the transfer of troops to the contract version of service. What about now? No longer a betrayal of interests ...

And although Ukrainian conscripts do their best to evade service, the idea of ​​switching to contract service may work. After all, now in Ukraine it is difficult to find a more or less normally paid job, and contract servicemen in the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the opportunity to provide financially for themselves and their family. However, there is also a nuance - not all of the business trips to the environmental protection zone return safe and sound.

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[Olgovich]

Even if Ukraine is canceled, it will be better for everyone, incl. and themselves ...

[Alien From]

The more weird, the better)

[Uncle lee]

not all of the business trips to the environmental protection zone return safe and sound.

There will be few people who want to get a smoke on the forehead!

[210ox]

The most interesting thing is that there are those who want to. In civilian life, there is nothing special to do there.

[Insurgent]

In the photo, the path is abundantly sprinkled with sand ... Biden managed to visit the Outskirts unnoticed ???

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Insurgent

In the photo, the path is abundantly sprinkled with sand ... Biden, unnoticed, managed to visit the Outskirts ???

Subtly noticed! It's five! Reminded -
"Then suddenly fell between the legs,
I bent down awesome
At first I thought that the sand
And this is not burnt gunpowder "..

[figwam]

Are conscripts no longer needed? Well, they can't be sent to war.

[Artyom Karagodin]

Put +. In Galushka Kaganate, apparently, the New Year is still celebrated

[xorek]

Quote: Olgovich

Even if Ukraine is canceled, it will be better for everyone, incl. and themselves ...

It has already been abolished and no one perceives it as a state or as a springboard for whipping up anti-Russian hysteria.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: xorek

It has already been canceled and no one perceives it as a state anymore.

To put it simply, 51st state, or California "ranchery".

[xorek]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: xorek

It has already been canceled and no one perceives it as a state anymore.

To put it simply, 51st state, or California "ranchery".

Well, the state, it's too loud Vlad .. So the colony is African or Indian

[tihonmarine]

Quote: xorek

Well, the state, it's too loud Vlad .. So the colony is African or Indian

In California, Indian reservations are called ranches. The colony needs to be fed, but the reservation feeds itself.

[xorek]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: xorek

Well, the state, it's too loud Vlad .. So the colony is African or Indian

In California, Indian reservations are called ranches. The colony needs to be fed, but the reservation feeds itself.

Got it Vlad did not know .. Thank you! Well, the Outskirts do not like to feed themselves, they plundered everything that the Soviet Union left them .. There for five years of war in the defense of the NZ was .. Horror, how did they manage to sell everything and remain a poverty-stricken territory ..? And how many factories and factories have been plundered, shipyards, tank factories, etc. ..Here are the freaks Now begging and pouring blood in the Donbass, etc. for handouts from the State Department .. Ugh damn

[Real Pilot]

-Serve all, URGENT!
-We don't want ...
-Then we cancel!

But this is hard to believe. Perhaps this is a sabotage of the suicide that Ukraine is being pushed into by its Western curators.

[knn54]

It continues to perceive Ukraine as a very large "Kvartal 91".

[mojohed2012]

Ze and those behind him, like Yanukovych before, are trying to score points in a stalemate by taking popular steps. After all, the cancellation of the deadline will give extra. voices of the same conscripts, and maybe their relatives.
Even for the fact that "if everything turns out to be bad and a massacre begins in the East" and they can send conscripts there to plug the holes, some part of the population will clearly be grateful - albeit for a formally populist decision, but the children and grandchildren are alive and well in the absence of threats to them - will do its job.
But building your presidency on this alone will not help.

[Moskovit]

Yes, it looks like feverish attempts at the expense of something to raise something that has fallen below the baseboard - Ze's rating. He won the last elections at the expense of down with the war, down with corruption. I remember how my acquaintances Ukrainians were happy, now, kaaaak everything will change ...
Changed, but not at all ...

[mojohed2012]

Exactly. A conscript service, perhaps, Ze and the Servants of the "people of America" ​​will be canceled, and in the next "aggravation and necessity" they will again be introduced.
They are the masters of their word: they wanted to give, they wanted to take back.

[prior]

In the photo: either a Caudle of "gopniks", or the President of Ukraine with his entourage ?!
However, this is practically the same thing.

[Flooding]

there used to be such a venerable profession - recruiting into the army and navy
got drunk, put a finger on the paper - woke up at a new job

[Doccor18]

Quote: Flood

... woke up at a new job

Rise! Legionary....

[Avior]

It happened. And smart people came across when they were young ... Science feeds young men, as they say :)))

Near the city of Dusseldorf, Lomonosov met Prussian soldiers with an officer at an inn. It turned out that these were recruiters who were recruiting for the king's army. The Prussian method of collecting recruits was primitive: recruiters were allowed to achieve results by any means ... So, the recruiting officer had to achieve a result. He invited a Russian student to dine and drink wine. It turned out that they had drunk him to unconsciousness, and when Lomonosov woke up, he found himself in the barracks, there was even a small amount of Prussian money in his pocket. Mikhail was told that the day before he had voluntarily entered the royal Prussian army in front of everyone. Yesterday's student became a reitar (a kind of cavalry) in the Prussian army. Mikhail Lomonosov quickly realized that the only way to "demobilize" was to escape. Times were harsh, and the punishment for desertion was severe, including the death penalty. Several weeks had to wait for an opportunity. The newly minted Reiter served in the Wessel fortress. ....

https://histrf.ru/biblioteka/b/rieitar-iegho-vielichiestva-kak-lomonosov-v-prusskoi-armii-sluzhil

[K150]

Well, Reitar is not an ordinary conscript infantryman. So it's even strange to desert.

[Avior]

Lomonosov had other plans

[xorek]

National Battalions Bandera will be? They say they are already committing atrocities on the sly on the gray line in the Donbass. Looks like the State Department will pay them and give commands ..
Oh well . They will wait for a tough answer.

[Dmitriy444]

Does Pan Ataman still have a gold reserve? Pennies to the lads-Bandera have to pay.

[Doccor18]

... in the fall of 2018, only every 12th conscript appeared on the summons to the military registration and enlistment offices ...

Yes ... it's easier, and really, to cancel and "save face" in a very bad game ...

... that the idea of ​​switching to a contract service might work. After all, now in Ukraine it is difficult to find a more or less normally paid job ...

Not without meaning.

[Dimy4]

They will start life for life, from infancy they will be assigned to a military unit, at the very least, they will teach to read and write and go ahead.

[tihonmarine]

Indeed, now in Ukraine it is difficult to find a more or less normally paid job, and contract servicemen in the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the opportunity to provide financially for themselves and their families.

I doubt that it is possible to provide for a family. Every day in Ukraine they go to the moon, build rockets, and fight the old Soviet Kalashnikov in Russian UAZs. But all this requires money and money is not small, and then the army under the contract will take away the lion's share of the budget. One of the poorest countries in Europe, and behaves as if it has the same GDP and budget as the United States, or at least France.
Isn't it time for the "lads" to live within their means, and switch from a white roll to a black one, and make your people laugh less with your tongue, otherwise you won't understand "either cry or laugh" ..

[GRIGORIY76]

In a poor state, the term cannot be canceled, otherwise there will be no one to serve.

[APASUS]

And although Ukrainian conscripts do their best to evade service, the idea of ​​switching to contract service may work. After all, now in Ukraine it is difficult to find a more or less normally paid job, and contract servicemen in the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the opportunity to provide financially for themselves and their family. However, there is also a nuance - not all of the business trips to the environmental protection zone return safe and sound.

Everything will be like according to the already worked out scheme. The bribes for not getting into the ATO will increase and the price of some places will go uphill. The place of some kind of grain carrier, it will cost that a general's position

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The issue with the appeal is difficult. Only this morning we had a military commissar wandering around the yard with two witnesses - boys in uniform, delivering summons. Why? So after all, both the guards (they can easily clean their snouts) and the witnesses that the summons has been handed over: they refuse to take them. Strange: there are several former volunteer Achtivists in the courtyard. Probably, they already refuse.

[Jaromir]

start to form the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine exclusively at the expense of contract soldiers

They do not recruit so many mercenaries for the occupation army. Even if all the Natsiks and other traitors are brought together.

[Jaromir]

the idea of ​​moving to contract service might work. After all, now in Ukraine it is difficult to find a more or less normally paid job, and contract servicemen in the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the opportunity to provide financially for themselves and their family.

The occupation power is dumb, everything goes to the metropolis.

[petrol cutter]

"the idea of ​​switching to contract service may work. After all, now in Ukraine it is difficult to find a more or less normally paid job, and contract servicemen in the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the opportunity to provide financially for themselves and their family. However, there is also a nuance - not all of them from business trips to the JFO zone return alive and healthy. "
Certainly. That's why they went there.
There is nowhere to work! .. And if a person still does not know how to do anything especially? I mean, I haven't mastered any profession / specialty ... And there are half of the country like that. Some institutes in our area fiercely churned out (for money) people with a proud profession of a psychologist.
Nobody understands what to do with this person, where to apply him, but he has a "tower"! .. And he has the appropriate requests.
Those. he / she is not going to work with his / her hands.
As for business trips ...
Again, people know what they are doing.
Therefore, complaints are not considered.

[Bauer]

The Molot mortar thinns the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Yesterday another exploded, two were killed.

[Metallurg_2]

Well, hit your own so that others are afraid.

[Prisoner]

Is the comedian afraid that he will be drafted into the army?

[Metallurg_2]

Dig up the caches, lads: they will come in handy when ours come.
It is advisable to immediately take the welding machine and weld the outlet from the inside.