"After 2,5 years": the Ukrainian Armed Forces received a batch of BMP-1AK, purchased in Poland

The Ukrainian army has finally received a batch of BMP-1AK infantry fighting vehicles, the supply of which was signed back in 2016. The delivery was carried out by the Zhytomyr Armored Plant, which was carrying out the restoration of equipment.

According to Ukrainian media publications, the Armed Forces of Ukraine received 26 BMP-1AK, seized in court in October 2020 from the Polish company Wtorplast and sent to the Zhytomyr Armored Plant for restoration.

In 2016, Ukraine signed a contract with a Polish company to supply the Ukrainian army with 93 BMP-1 BMP-15,3s removed from storage by the Czech army. The contract, worth $ 2018 million, provided for the delivery of BMPs by the end of 9. Kiev transferred $ 50 million in advance for more than 20 armored vehicles, but the Poles delivered only 2019. At the same time, Ukrspetsexport, which dealt with the contract from the Ukrainian side, in March 50 reported on the delivery of all XNUMX BMPs.

Kiev managed through the courts to "knock out" the remaining 26 BMPs from the Polish company, which were delivered to Zhitomir in October 2020. The plant's management promised in a month, i.e. in November-December 2020, deliver all BMPs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, however, the process dragged on until March 2021.

Thus, the BMP-2018 allegedly delivered by the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the end of 1, almost 2,5 years later, were finally transferred to the troops.

Recall that in 2018, a scandal erupted in Ukraine related to contract prices for the purchase of a Czech-made BMP by a Polish company. The Zhytomyr Armored Plant (ZHBZ) purchased the decommissioned BMP-1 of the 1980s from the Wtorplast company from Poland. The Polish company, in turn, initially bought them from the Czech company Excalibur Army at 20-25 thousand euros per unit - at the price of scrap metal, according to the documents. Wtorplast dismantled the BMP - separating the turrets from the chassis.

Then ZhBZ imported all this separately to Ukraine: each tower was estimated at 66 thousand dollars, and each chassis - at 99 thousand dollars. The plant "repaired" the BMP - it simply connected the previously disassembled parts. The cost of the work was another 40 thousand dollars per unit. As a result, the BMP worth 20 thousand euros cost the Ukrainian defense budget 205 thousand dollars.

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[Hunter 2]

Then ZhBZ imported all this separately to Ukraine: each tower was estimated at 66 thousand dollars, and each chassis - at 99 thousand dollars. The plant "repaired" the BMP - it simply connected the previously disassembled parts. The cost of the work was another 40 thousand dollars per unit. As a result, the BMP worth 20 thousand euros cost the Ukrainian defense budget 205 thousand dollars.

That's what I understand ... Think big and earn!

[figwam]

Yes, and everything is in business)))

[Flooding]

Quote: figvam

Yes, and everything is in business)))

only the Czechs are offended. cheapened

[Insurgent]

Quote: Flood

only the Czechs are offended. cheapened

Who is the doctor to them that did not fit into the scheme?

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Cool Ukrainian business! With a profit of "nine percent", as the hero of the anecdote said.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Yesterday, this news flashed, that something was late ...
And the scheme is well-known! And cars are delivered in the same way.

[Insurgent]

In 2016, Ukraine signed a contract with a Polish company to supply the Ukrainian army with 93 BMP-1 BMP-XNUMXs removed from storage by the Czech army.

In our company, there was one "Czech". And I would like to note that with all the same, including the year of release, in comparison with our Soviet production, it looked somehow special, "nobler" or something ...

One had only to compare the appearance of the masks of the guns to understand that ours was made more clumsy

Of course, this did not affect the characteristics, but the fact is the fact.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Insurgent

looked onam somehow in a special way, "nobler" or something

Self-hypnosis.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Self-hypnosis.

No, you just did not see when the cars are in a row in the park, and all the "pockmarks" and processing flaws are in full view ...

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Well, these aren't polished and waxed cars.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Well, these aren't polished and waxed cars.

I wrote that:

Quote: Innsurgent

Of course, this did not affect the characteristics.

But nevertheless, I repeat - differences in the quality of casting, welding seams, further "finishing" processing are striking.

[Barmal]

Various plans for manufacturing. Ours were supposed to load the USSR with volumes, and the Czechs - Czechoslovakia, and probably some for the rest of the VD member states, and that is not a fact. Comparing volumes is pointless. Sitting on subsidies from the USSR, you can develop the quality side: polish iron to the envy of the Soviet - that's what we are! You have developed, but you don't know how to do it, ha. Sitting on a starvation diet of the real Soviet economy, you will drive the plan. And nobody canceled the military acceptance. This is the result of the compromise: it works, it shoots, but there is no polishing. As on Discovery about the T34, one British iksperd mumbled about the quality of the tank: look at British vehicles and at American ones, look at German ones, but here's a soviet shitty mess, welding is not cleaned, well, etc. This is just one of this series. The USSR fought in the Cold War, and the socialist camp was traveling as a passenger.

[Turuk]

Not only. The difference was great in the assembly quality of UTD-20 engines. The Czech engines were made much better than ours. You see the number on the engine in Latin letters - grab it faster and put it in the car. This is if the NBTS allows it.

[xorek]

Quote: Hunter 2

That's what I understand ... Think big and earn!

Temporary workers, what to take from them .. They grab, as if the Donbass militias are already near Kiev ..))))

[Insurgent]

Quote: xorek

Temporary workers, what to take from them .. They grab, as if the Donbass militias are already near Kiev ..))))

And in general, the title - "After 2,5 years": the Ukrainian Armed Forces received a batch of BMP-1AK, purchased in Poland , served incorrectly

Correctly like this: "After 2,5 years": the Ukrainian Armed Forces received a batch of infantry fighting vehicles , for 1AK , purchased in Poland

[Constanty]

That's right: "After 2,5 years": the Armed Forces of Ukraine received a batch of infantry fighting vehicles, for 1AK, purchased via Poland.
The Polish company was only an intermediary and more like a front man. Who knows, maybe and as in the case of Oncilla, its owners are located in Cyprus and all the profits go to the same pocket of the Ukrainian oligarch.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Constanty

That's right: "After 2,5 years": the Armed Forces received a batch of infantry fighting vehicles for 1AK, purchased through Poland.
The Polish company was only an intermediary and more like a front man. Who knows, maybe and as in the case of Oncilla, its owners are located in Cyprus and all the profits go to the same pocket of the Ukrainian oligarch.

Yes, on the outskirts of cymbals, who is there and at whose expense was enriched ...

Does not matter, behi will be ours, or stubs ...

[Lord of the Sith]

Why do we need this junk? After Debaltseve, we did not put all the equipment into operation, since all of it needed to be repaired and modernized.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Sith Lord

Why do we need this junk? After Debaltseve, we did not put all the equipment into operation, since all of it needed to be repaired and modernized.

Lord of the Sith , I probably have a little idea of ​​what state they are in our BMP operating since 2014 without repair and modernization ...

AND... In addition, no matter how there was in the dill, but the former "Czech women" underwent some kind of repair there in a specialized factory
AND... You also forget that today is not 2015 Debaltseve, when everything was collected in the Armed Forces of Ukraine "just to crawl", but 2021, when the equipment is at least serviced and replaced, albeit not modern, but fully working ...

[knn54]

Alexey, all the same "handmade".

[Insurgent]

Quote: knn54

Alexey, all the same "handmade".

[tihonmarine]

Quote: knn54

Alexey, all the same "handmade".

Let's just say - "Ukrainian lohatron".

[Guru]

Hello Alexey.

That's what I understand ... Think big and earn!

Well, no matter where they taught, the scope of the Business is immediately felt.

[spectr]

Surely local Natsiks feed on such schemes. That is why they are so actively concerned about the war.

[YOUR]

In the Far East, cars imported in this way under PTS are called "constructor".
But here it is more ambitious, the state is felt to be working.
But this is what interests me. With the collapse of the USSR in / in Ukraine, there was just a huge pile of weapons and equipment, where this is all. They only had BMP-2 of various modifications for 1000 units left, only for 1500 units. Well, they could not sell everything or recycle, melt it down.

[Flooding]

Excellent business diagram.
There are few entrepreneurs who would refuse to participate in such a scam.
Subject to impunity.

[NDR-791]

The plant "repaired" the BMP - it simply connected the previously disassembled parts. The cost of the work was another 40 thousand dollars per unit. As a result, the BMP worth 20 thousand euros cost the Ukrainian defense budget 205 thousand dollars.
Eh! It smelled like the nineties! Poles have a significant name - VtorPlast Why isn't Vtorchermet?

[Olgovich]

As a result, BMP cost 20 thousand euroso cost the Ukrainian defense budget 205 thousand dollars.

Well, hnichto yourself, the cost has increased by ... TEN times!

Well, they STEAL ....

[Cowbra]

Quote: Olgovich

Well, they STEAL ...

The teachers are good. Have you heard about gas stations in Afghanistan for 45 million evergreens? Here There, go and one pistol on it like an infantry fighting vehicle stands)

[Olgovich]

Quote: Cowbra

The teachers are good. Have you heard about gas stations in Afghanistan for 45 million evergreens? There, go and one pistol on it like an infantry fighting vehicle stands)

And about the wild theft in Iraq? Dozens of objects worth billions of dollars have been built - "centers", "polygons", "research."

I especially liked the study "Using elephants when clearing ..."

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Olgovich

Well, they STEAL ....

One of these has already lit up, put you a minus (clearly smeared).

[rocket757]

Military supplies have always been the most desirable treat and, for the most cunning ...
This is nothing new.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Military supplies have always been the most desirable treat and, for the most cunning ...

And even for the stupidest.

[spech]

Kiev transferred $ 9 million in advance for more than 50 armored vehicles, but the Poles delivered only 20

from the Polish company the remaining 26 BMP

20 + 26 = 50 Tse arithmetic is a Moscow science.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: spech

20 + 26 = 50 Tse arithmetic is a Moscow science.

Four at 20 + 26 + 4 (lowered to the vodka) = 50

[wow]

And then "badges" !!!

[mojohed2012]

Why be ashamed? They did everything according to the precepts of Bandera and Shukhevych: if you have something to steal, steal, if you can get rich on the silence of the rest, get rich. You have to be more decisive.
Only such a criminal history in Ukraine is unlikely to be accompanied by landings. Those who participate in the scheme are already very high in the captured posts. They will cover.
In Ukraine, they can only be imprisoned for obvious and flagrant criminal offenses. And then, the criminal may not be imprisoned if he is politically close and if there is any Nazi Corps or Sector behind him!

[Evil 55]

Well, what ... just business, nothing personal ...

[made13]

You might think that ours is different. The same dregs in everything - from roads to space. "If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and they ask me what is happening in Russia now, I will answer: they drink and steal." Saltykov-Shchedrin.

[Prisoner]

"The whole world with Ukraine", EPRST. With such friends, enemies are not necessary. Although ... "they saw sho kupuvali's eyes, now eat at least get out."

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Captive

With such friends, enemies are not necessary. Although ... "they saw sho kupuvali's eyes, now eat at least climb out."

It is Ukraine that believes that the whole world is their friends, forgetting to ask, but how do friends relate to such a "friend" as Ukraine.

[tihonmarine]

As a result, the BMP worth 20 thousand euros cost the Ukrainian defense budget 205 thousand dollars.

Business and cut money, as always in Ukrainian.

[TermNachTer]

For a month or more for one BMP, during this time and money it was possible to make new ones)))

[monster]

The Ukrainian Suleiman has everything without cheating

[Stepan S]

What will not die in the Ukrainian army is the vein of an ensign. Out of the blue they figure out how to make money on themselves. Through a simple operation to separate the turret, the cost of the BMP increased by 10 times.

[Diverter]

let the qi bmp burn with the crews.
And in general, maybe it is worth assessing the prospects for the announcement of sanctions to pshekas for the supply of BT vna 404?

[Nikolai Redko]

In this whole story, it turns out that the Czechs are just some kind of fools. What is hard to believe ... If only they, in addition to $ 20t, did not receive any extra. premium from ov.