"All missiles hit the peg": the Ministry of Defense completed the stage of flight design tests of "Zircon"

The Ministry of Defense has completed the stage of flight-design tests (LKI) of the Zircon hypersonic missile from a surface launch vehicle. It is reported by TASS with reference to a source in the DIC.

According to the source, the stage of flight-design tests of the Zircon from the board of the frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been completed, and in the near future the stage of state tests will begin, within the framework of which several launches will take place.

The LKI "Zircon" with the use of the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" has been successfully completed. Four launches have been completed. All missiles hit the "peg" (the center of the conditional circle in which the missile should hit)

- leads news source word agency.

In December 2020, the Ministry of Defense announced that state tests of the Zircon hypersonic missile would begin in 2021 immediately after the completion of the flight test stage. A total of 7 Zircon launches will be carried out, two of them will take place during the flight-design test stage, and another 5 - state tests. The frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" and the multipurpose submarine of project 885 (code "Ash") "Severodvinsk" will take part in the tests.

In early March, data appeared that the Ministry of Defense intends to accelerate the Zircon test program with the aim of adopting the missile into service in the first half of 2022. According to the source, test launches of missiles from surface and submarine carriers will now go in parallel, and not in turn, as previously reported.

Comments

[NDR-791]

Somehow it's not entirely clear:
1. A total of 7 Zircon launches will be carried out, two of them will take place during the flight test phase, another 5 - state tests.
2. The LKI "Zircon" with the use of the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" has been successfully completed. Four launches have been completed.
Where is the truth? Something went wrong? Or is it conceived, but the source does not know?

[Flooding]

Quote: NDR-791

Or is it conceived, but the source does not know?

the journalist apparently draws inspiration from several news articles.
disregarding obvious inconsistencies in such compilation
probably the pace is important here - the number of articles per working day

[NDR-791]

1. Entanglement
2. Bullying
3. Punishment of the innocent
4. Rewarding the uninvolved
The main thing that the adoption of the rocket into service in the first half of 2022. the terms did not go to the right.

[Flooding]

Re-read.
Yes, comrades Ros 56 and Andrey from Chelyabinsk are right. This time nothing happened.

[abrakadabre]

The main thing is to put the rocket into service in the first half of 2022. the terms did not go to the right.

Not only. The main thing is that, subject to the deadlines for adoption, missiles without "childhood illnesses" go into the army.

[bayard]

Quote: NDR-791

The main thing is to put the rocket into service in the first half of 2022. the terms did not go to the right.

That is why they are accelerating because next year Admiral Golovko is to enter service, Admiral Nakhimov is to return to service, and Yasen-M will already go into service - we need to arm it.

[Ros 56]

the stage of flight-design tests of "Zircon" from the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" has been completed, in the near future the stage of state tests will begin, within the framework of which several launches will take place.

Read carefully again.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Well, a link to the source. And the source is such a loose concept that it is not clear whether it is worth believing there something.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: NDR-791

Where is the truth?

Artem, written is not contradictory.
There will be 7 launches in total. 4 made with Gorshkov

stage of flight design tests "Zircon" from the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" hung

The remaining 3 will be from another ship - "Severodvinsk"

The frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" and the multipurpose submarine of project 885 (code "Ash") "Severodvinsk" will take part in the tests.

[NDR-791]

I understood!!! Everyone sees how he sees. Well, the framework of LCI and GI are indicated then why. Although all this is not essential. We flew without jambs and hit without jambs. And this is the main thing! Good luck on the tests !!!

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: NDR-791

Well, the framework of LCI and GI are indicated then why.

Because the presentation in the article suffers. You just had to write that 7 of the 4 planned launches were carried out from the Gorshkov, then there would be no questions

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: NDR-791

Somehow it's not entirely clear:

Yes, this is not the main thing. The main thing is that the day begins with long-awaited and wonderful news. I hope and believe that the state. tests will be held "in a peg".

[Operator]

You did not understand: the "peg" is Israel

[Subtext]

I hope and believe that the state. tests will be held "in a peg".

The mention of the "peg" speaks of a complete misunderstanding of the performance of missile (and even more so, test) firing

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Subtext

The mention of the "peg" speaks of a complete misunderstanding of the performance of missile (and even more so, test) firing

Well, enlighten us who do not understand. What is the problem?

[Subtext]

Like that. The point is closed with zeros, which is natural.
The receiving field has anchor points (pegs). Wherever the product is, they inform about these very stakes. Information is summarized, and accuracy is judged.
That is, if you hit the stake, you just missed.

[not main]

Quote: Subtext

Like that. The point is closed with zeros, which is natural.
The receiving field has anchor points (pegs). Wherever the product is, they inform about these very stakes. Information is summarized, and accuracy is judged.
That is, if you hit the stake, you just missed.

Exactly, but vice versa!

[Sergey Sfiedu]

In general, in the near-military circles it was believed that the "Zircon" - an anti-ship missile system with an ARL of the GOS. And then there are "pegs" in whatever format. Either the author whistles, or the GOS was not involved in the tests (what the hell are such tests?), Or there is no GOS at all.

[yehat2]

I also have one more question - how long do all the zircon tests take?
according to what I've read, it has been published for over 3.5 years. Not too much?

[Piramidon]

Quote: yehat2

Not too much?

The technique is fundamentally new.

[yehat2]

Quote: Piramidon

The technique is fundamentally new.

so this is not a stage of creation, but of testing.
albeit a new, but the same rocket with a body, engine and wings.

[Dodikson]

There are a lot of difficulties and their performance characteristics increased.
because I read about the successful tests of a naval mineral back in 2013 at Dankom.
but then he had to fly 6 max. the current emnip is 8 flies and has a longer range.

[yehat2]

those tests ended in failure, so I don't take them into account at all

[Piramidon]

Quote: yehat2

albeit a new, but the same rocket with a body, engine and wings.

Well yes, absolutely no difference and nothing new. That "Zircon" that "FAU-1". What is there to probe.

[Vadim237]

Yes, not the same difference with supersonic Onyxes and Calibers is absolute in everything from materials to the accelerating engine.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: yehat2

I also have one more question - how long do all the zircon tests take?
according to what I've read, it has been published for over 3.5 years. Not too much?

Most likely, for 3.5 years, it was not the finished product that was tested, but its nodes. For example - an engine, fuel, etc. And only then the whole product is assembled.

[yehat2]

as far as I found out, there were problems with the engine operation both at the start and in cruise mode,
and also the guidance system did not work out very reliably.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: yehat2

as far as I found out, there were problems with the engine operation both at the start and in cruise mode,
and also the guidance system did not work out very reliably.

Well, you see, hence the duration of the tests. Everything is simple on our couch, but in reality everything is much more complicated. Therefore, it seems to us that everything is so "slow"
Of course we want it to be faster.

[yehat2]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Of course we want it to be faster.

you see, besides the sofa, I know how similar tests were carried out in the USSR
and I compare with their timing
when an experienced rocket was assembled on demand in a week and after 2 it was already at the range. here with Zircon I somehow do not notice such zeal.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: yehat2

you see, besides the sofa, I know how similar tests were carried out in the USSR

I don’t presume to judge. Not in the subject. I would like to think that there were serious technical problems that affected the timing. I hope that all these problems have been resolved and that the product will soon be adopted.

[yehat2]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I want to think

rather believe, and these are not questions of this site

[Dodikson]

can you tell us something about the GOS? otherwise nothing is known even at the level of rumors

[alexmach]

Where is the truth? Something went wrong? Or is it conceived, but the source does not know?

Everywhere. item 1 plan for the current year. Point 2 is about in general.

[Artyom1979]

Most likely the remaining two aircraft design will be produced from the submarine.

[lucul]

Somehow it's not entirely clear:
1. A total of 7 Zircon launches will be carried out, two of them will take place during the flight-design test stage, and another 5 - state tests.
2. LKI "Zircon" with the use of the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" has been successfully completed. Four launches have been completed.
Where is the truth? Something went wrong? Or is it conceived, but the source does not know?

Well, what is not clear to you?
Everything that the Zircons launched before was the developer's flight design tests. And then there will be state. tests, in a number of 5 launches, if everything goes well with them, then the rocket will be adopted.

[venik]

Quote: NDR-791

2. LKI "Zircon" with the use of the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" has been successfully completed. Four launches have been completed.
Where is the truth? Something went wrong?

=======
Have you read attentively at all? Or so - "diagonally"? Rather, the latter. Then - I explain: In total, within the framework of the final stage of the LCI in 2021, there were 2 launches (TWA): 1 launch from a surface carrier ("Pot") and another 1 - from an underwater one ("Severodvinsk"). "Pot" - has already shot. LCI with surface carrier this is complete! It remains to shoot "Severodvinsk" and it will be possible to proceed to state tests (if everything (pah-pah!) Goes well).
And you - without understanding and right away - into a panic! You will not wait!

[Dart2027]

Quote: NDR-791

Where is the truth? Something went wrong? Or is it conceived, but the source does not know?

Read carefully

In December 2020, the Ministry of Defense announced that state tests of the Zircon hypersonic missile would begin in 2021 immediately after the completion of the flight test stage. A total of 7 Zircon launches will be carried out, two of them will take place during the flight-design test stage, and another 5 - state tests.

It says here that in 2021 LKI will be completed within which 2 launches will take place, but Zircon was tested last year.

[Arkon]

As I understand it, the main "know-how" of these missiles is the guidance system at such speeds. Because everything that has existed so far from moving on hypersonic just flies along different trajectories without final guidance, having received a control system until the moment of transition to hypersonic speeds.
And here, it seems, is something fundamentally different ...

[knn54]

Andrey, "Scalpel" got into a shield with a diameter of 10 m in Kamchatka. The electronics were assembled on discrete elements, without processors. And this is more than a third of a century ago. And without GNSS.

[Dodikson]

this is the target with the given coordinates. and here a moving target. And you need not an inertial, but a seeker. and this paragraph is different things. especially at high speeds

[Sergey Sfiedu]

They wrote to you - the rocket hit the "peg". And the peg is clearly not a moving target. If the author is not a lamer, of course.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Arkon

As I understand it, the main "know-how" of these missiles is the guidance system at such speeds

There, in theory, the know-how of all kinds should be from the heart: a multi-mode engine (capable of accelerating to the main engine and then supporting this main engine), a guidance system, heat-resistant cladding, etc. etc. And all this in the dimensions of the PU 3S-14. It's a pity, they won't show it live (at least the moment of hitting the target).

[Dodikson]

I'm more interested in how the GOS Zircon will behave on electronic warfare and false targets. because in the last couple of years the Yankees have done a good job on this and not a single anti-ship missile hit targets that were protected by interference and false targets (the last episode was with mattresses in Yemen, when they even had to shoot down with clones of Chinese anti-ship missiles, they all went to the side)

[Vadim237]

No way - the rocket flies in a plasma stream and no EW radiation can affect its control, like the rocket body with a laser can burn through and fry with microwave radiation the same as it is made of a special heat-resistant composite alloy based on zirconium carbide and carbon fiber.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

Only if there is no GOS - then yes. And if there is an active radar seeker, then theoretically there is always the possibility to deceive or drown it.

[rocket757]

If we are able to create sensible systems / weapons, then we can advertise, present the goods with a person, alas, alas, this happens, as a rule, later and not even by ourselves !!!

[antivirus]

this is confusion - and the main goal is to refuse AB they will not write, but they will speak with their lips, silently

[rocket757]

Quote: antivirus

rejection of AB

This is what?

[antivirus]

why are they not building aircraft carriers --............................................ .....................................

[rocket757]

Yes fig knows.
We have to proceed from the fact that "the giraffe is big, he knows best" ...
You can also look for objective reasons. There will be, for sure.

[antivirus]

antivirus
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Yesterday, 09: 33
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Aviation as the main striking force of the Russian fleet
our "assets" (including the factories of the aligarhs) are located in the XXX regions and they need to be protected - this is from Moscow to Krasnoyarsk. where are the seas?
- the protection of the southern borders for 2 tons km with a margin - this is the control of the Caucasus and SrAsia (up to friends in India)
- where is the sea?

- the perseverance of the military in the confrontation with NATO is understandable. I think that (in vain) -war this will not happen. We will be pulled on trifles from all directions.
--- in pt how to protect the poison centers (and Krasnoyarsk)?
---- cover the transport (empty steppes) from Moscow (or the Baltic and Black Sea) to the Pacific Ocean - how many С400 and -500 should be delivered?
- Is AB in Krasnoyarsk needed?
--- protection of Zap Sib oil and Taimyr - need AV? - from the south, nomads will come to Tumen by buggy
lobbyists work, no names

[Kalmar]

Quote: rocket757

If we are able to create sensible systems / weapons, then we can advertise, present the goods with a person, alas, alas, this happens, as a rule, later and not even by ourselves !!!

What for? Zircons are not planned for export yet. The population does not need unnecessary details, there are enough beautiful numbers: "10 swings, 1000 km, 100% indestructible." Of course, a short video in which the "Zircon" at full speed demolishes the target ship, would dispel many doubts ...

[rocket757]

Quote: Kalmar

Of course, a short video in which the "Zircon" at full speed demolishes the target ship, would dispel many doubts ...

There are doubts here and there ... it WILL NOT be superfluous to dispel them!
Someone will rejoice, and some will be forced to THINK, whether they need to "seek" to experience all this on themselves.
The benefit will be.

[Kalmar]

Quote: rocket757

There are doubts here and there ... it WILL NOT be superfluous to dispel them!

Nobody argues that it won't. Against the background of other "successes" of the Russian defense industry, the abundance of complex engineering solutions in Zircon, frankly, is alarming; I would very much like to see something more tangible than dry theses: "We started it, flew in, everything is great." We are waiting, sir.

[Barberry25]

taking into account the speeds, there will be just a ship, but it is already making a boom ... In principle, it is important that the very scheme of using hypersonic missiles has been worked out, in other words, ours are able to make such missiles now, which means you can do both larger and smaller in size .. so that you can hang both heavy fighters, both on rocket launchers and on ground launchers .. In principle, you can stuff the Zircon into the same Bastion, and there are suspicions that there will be no difficulties with adapting to Iskander ... but there already just rivet the rockets, learn to shoot and whip through the warehouses, periodically showing the "partners" news bulletins how the rocket, having flown 1,5 km, hit the target .. and with a ruler on the map, they are already crawling on their own

[Kalmar]

Quote: Barberry25

taking into account the speeds there will just be a ship, but it is already making a boom

Firstly, nobody canceled high-speed cameras. The video with a leisurely flying tank OBPS is complete, but there are more than 4M speeds.
Secondly, shooting in a general plan will also allow the rocket to be noticed before the collision and not to reveal unnecessary technical details of its design.

Quote: Barberry25

what is important is that the very scheme of using hypersonic missiles has been worked out

Nothing has been worked out yet, these are only test launches. "Completed" - this is when in full: to find a target, whose location is not known in advance, remove the carrier, shoot back, fix the defeat. Ideally, the goal should still apply to the KREP.

[rocket757]

Quote: Kalmar

Firstly, nobody canceled high-speed cameras.

Suppose the launch of NUDOLI inspired many, and made some think ... if the defeat of the target satellite were shown, it would be a very convincing NOT A CARTOON !!!

[Piramidon]

Quote: rocket757

if the defeat of the target satellite show

It is problematic to deliver the film crew of "Military Acceptance" into orbit.

[rocket757]

And what, there are no other technical means / possibilities ???
Very sorry.

[lucul]

Of course, a short video in which the "Zircon" at full speed demolishes the target ship, would dispel many doubts ...

Why disclose secrecy? )))
It's as if the Americans, told the Germans - we do not believe in your V-2 until you show them to our specialists in a section, but do not provide all the technical documentation for study))))

[Kalmar]

Quote: lucul

Why disclose secrecy? )))

And what is the secrecy? The fact that the rocket is and flies? So we and so from every iron shout about it. And the details of the design in a general plan cannot be discerned anyway.

[Vadim237]

Indian HyperBramos will be exported when it is promised in 2027.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: rocket757

If we are able to create sensible systems / weapons, then we can advertise, present the goods with a person, alas, alas, this happens, as a rule, later and not even by ourselves !!!

Such "things" do not need advertising. I would not write that way. And something like this - we know how to create good weapons, but electronics, marine and other other engines are at the same high level, alas. Maybe it makes sense to create a separate research institute of engine building? For, so to speak, brainstorming. In order to eventually create a line of engines from 10 horsepower to - oh, how many!

[Kalmar]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

We know how to create good weapons, but alas, electronics, marine and other other engines are at the same high level.

But in the case of the Zircon, the weapon is mostly comprised of an engine and electronics. Everything else, if you look at it, is secondary.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Kalmar

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

We know how to create good weapons, but alas, electronics, marine and other other engines are at the same high level.

But in the case of the Zircon, the weapon is mostly comprised of an engine and electronics. Everything else, if you look at it, is secondary.

You are inattentive. Speaking of engines, I was not talking about weapons.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You are inattentive. Speaking of engines, I was not talking about weapons.

And the rocket - isn't it a weapon? Moreover, the engine is an important part of it.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Kalmar

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You are inattentive. Speaking of engines, I was not talking about weapons.

And the rocket - isn't it a weapon? Moreover, the engine is an important part of it.

What have you used this morning? I don't believe it's kefir. Otherwise, how to understand your - "Isn't a rocket a weapon?" in response to my - "... I was not talking about weapons" (!!!)

[Kalmar]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

What have you used this morning? I don't believe it's kefir. Otherwise, how to understand your - "Isn't a rocket a weapon?" in response to my - "... I was not talking about weapons" (!!!)

No need to be rude. You said that we make weapons well and that engines and electronics are poorly made. I noted that this statement in the context of the same "Zircon" is contradictory, since this weapon (which we do well) consists mostly of the engine (which we do so-so) and electronics (which is also not very good). If you put some other meaning into the terms "weapon", "engine" and "electronics", different from the commonly used one, then this is definitely not my kefir's fault.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Kalmar

too, everything is not very good). If you put some other meaning into the terms "weapon", "engine" and "electronics", different from the commonly used one, then this is definitely not my kefir's fault.

Well, of course not kefir. It's about understanding the simplest information.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

so - to create good marine and other other engines at the same high level, alas. Maybe it makes sense to create a separate research institute of engine building? For, so to speak, brainstorming. In order to eventually create a line of engines from 10 horsepower to - oh, how many!

I give a hint for the mind, clouded by "kefir" - "ship engines", a line of engines from 10 horses to "how many".
Note, this is not about weapons !!!

[Kalmar]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I give a hint for the mind, clouded by "kefir" - "ship engines", a line of engines from 10 horses to "how many".

We carefully read you:

marine and other other engines

If the "other others" remain within the "ship", then the problem is still not in kefir, but in your ability to formulate your thoughts.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Kalmar

If "other others" remain within the "shipboard"

Oh my god, how much can you? I give one more hint -

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

so - we know how to create good weapons, but electronics, ship and other other engines are at the same high level, alas.

Do you understand Russian? Or is your consciousness clouded with kefir?
If, along with the ships, I also talk about OTHER OTHERS, then this is clearly not about the ships' speech.
Are our engines on the car everywhere? - Not! All planes have our engines? - Not! By helicopters? (KA-226) - No! On a UAV? - Not! Continue or will it be enough?

[Kalmar]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Are our engines on the car everywhere? - Not! All planes have our engines? - Not! By helicopters? (KA-226) - No! On a UAV? - Not! Continue or will it be enough?

They are on the rockets. Our. Rockets are weapons. Got my logic? Or one more time in a circle?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Kalmar

They are on the rockets. Our. Rockets are weapons. Got my logic? Or one more time in a circle?

Especially for the inhabitants of the deep water -

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You are inattentive. Speaking of engines, I was not talking about weapons.

They say cucumber pickle helps.

[rocket757]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Maybe it makes sense to create a separate research institute of engine building?

Someone will immediately ask the question "Where is the money, Zin?" and advice will fly right away as to whom and how to "dispossess the kulak" is necessary ... that is. long controversy, without any practical meaning!
We do not have China, where the state itself is interested in such issues and therefore ... and therefore, there is clearly a movement forward there!
We are not America, Israel and ... we are somehow different and we stray our own, "intricate" route ...
That’s nothing good to express, our path is winding and ahead of us .... God forbid Susanin (forgive the hero, but not in this case), I would like to have Danko leading !!!

[Cowbra]

And here is this peg:

[Prisoner]

Biden will read your post, so the disease will completely disappear. Have mercy on the old man.

[antivirus]

Biden is more alive than all living things - his activities are focused on maintaining what has been created in 300 years - not in the run to communism or "doubling the GDP."
to sit correctly on the chair is the Victory over the enemies.

[abrakadabre]

Biden is the most alive of all living - his activities are focused on maintaining what has been created for 300 years

His activity is primarily focused on maintaining his decrepit life. The inevitability of age. All his other occupations are highly secondary.

[antivirus]

his "friends" hold him upright by the collar. Clintons and Obama and many deputies and assistants. the system is powerful.

[abrakadabre]

So they are busy with this very "maintenance of what has been created over 300 years."

[XXXIII]

Quote: Cowbra

And here is this peg:

annealed bro 100 + . It is necessary to have a good sense of humor. They will have to demolish this peg so that the Russians miss.

[sergo1914]

What a peg. Previously, panels were stretched with a cross. And it was optimized? Herods.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Spambox

Yes, the banner was stretched on the water)))))

Is a peg being driven into the water?

[Kart]

Well, before, everything was led by the communists, and all the water in the seas was from pure fresh milk, through which they stretched the polymeric cloth.
And now, as everyone knows, all polymers are stale, all ukraali oligarchs, and the poor people have nothing but pegs left.
Country-rocket column. Hatit to endure!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: sergo1914

Is a peg being driven into the water?

Couldn't more reasonable thoughts get into your head? Are the passages filled up with junk?

[sergo1914]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Quote: sergo1914

Is a peg being driven into the water?

Couldn't more reasonable thoughts get into your head? Are the passages filled up with junk?

Infusoria looked at herself in the mirror and wrote a post?

[Nikolaevich I]

Well ... such expressions only confirm your inadequacy in conjunction with "special giftedness"!

[abrakadabre]

Is a peg being driven into the water?

The analogue for water is a float. In any fisherman's shop, their wagon and cart. And it costs a penny. You can at least stick the whole square of firing. For a little money.

[sergo1914]

Quote: abrakadabre

Is a peg being driven into the water?

The analogue for water is a float. In any fisherman's shop, their wagon and cart. And it costs a penny. You can at least stick the whole square of firing. For a little money.

And then raise the debris from the bottom for study?

[abrakadabre]

And then raise the debris from the bottom for study?

What is there to study? But if you really need it straight, then the option with two floats at anchor: one is submerged for ten meters, the second hangs on the surface on the continuation of the cable. You can even attach a simple mechanism so that in case of hitting the upper one, the lower one will automatically float to the surface.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: sergo1914

Is a peg being driven into the water?

Well, you're just like ...

[Spambox]

Yes, the panels were stretched on the water)))))

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Spambox

Yes, the panels were stretched straight on the water)

It looks like you have not heard of anchored booms .... and laughter for no reason is a sign ...........!

[sergo1914]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Quote: Spambox

Yes, the panels were stretched straight on the water)

It looks like you have not heard of anchored booms .... and laughter for no reason is a sign ...........!

Buddy, calm down, drink some water.

[Nikolaevich I]

Since when have inadequate friends started to cram into my friends?

[sergo1914]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Since when have inadequate friends started to cram into my friends?

How can you be friends with schizophrenics? In their fantasies?

[Nikolaevich I]

As Putin said: "Whoever calls names like that, he himself is called that!" Now I see that you are not only an inadequate person; but also ....! (It is not difficult to guess what the chela is called, who created and spoke abominations! Although ... if you are already driving pegs into the sea ... then I don’t undertake to assess your shrewdness ... I am sure that you have no place in VO!)

[Piramidon]

Quote: sergo1914

What a peg.

This is the professional expression of the rockets. When they say "hit the bull's-eye" they don't mean white filling or Antonovka.

[Bez 310]

Somehow modest ...
No reports to you about the innumerable number of EMs,
no stories about the huge launch range.
In short, not impressive.

[xorek]

For a long time something goes on tests, but it must be so
I thought they were already in service!

[Avior]

A total of 7 Zircon launches will be carried out, two of them will take place during the flight-design test stage, and another 5 - state tests.

Somehow inconsistency with other messages. And about the peg - it looks like last year's news

This year, the program of flight design tests of the Zircon hypersonic cruise missile has been completed in full.
This was announced by a source in the military-industrial complex (MIC). He recalled that there were three successful launches from the Northern Fleet frigate "Admiral Gorshkov". “In the outgoing year, three planned launches were carried out: two for sea targets, one for land targets,” a TASS source said. He noted that the "Zircons" showed "amazing accuracy, all the missiles hit the" peg "(as the missilemen call the center of the circle depicting a conventional target)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vpk-news.ru/news/60112%3famp[quote][/quote]

[tlauicol]

Yes, he actually shot Onyx

[Vlad Pervovich]

and how do GI differ from LCI?

[Kalmar]

Quote: Vlad Pervovich

and how do GI differ from LCI?

I believe that LCI is a test carried out by the developer during the development and refinement of the product. And when he decides that the product is ready, the GI follows - tests before the customer. If everything is even there, we can talk about adoption.

[engineer74]

Quote: Vlad Pervovich

and how do GI differ from LCI?

Technically, nothing, the whole difference is "at whose expense the banquet" and who signs the acts.
Good luck to the bird and many years of service!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: engineer74

Technically, nothing, the whole difference is "at whose expense the banquet" and who signs the acts.

LCI is carried out by the developer company in order to confirm the innovation, revision, previously eliminated remark, to improve the parameter. Based on its results, a decision is made on the unit, the product as a whole. That is, there is still time and room for maneuver - you can "clarify the nuances."
And the state - they are the state! It's like cutting off once, after 7 LCIs!

[Pavel57]

Quote: Cowbra

And here is this peg:

There are many such pegs scattered around the world.

[iouris]

There is no such criterion for test success (or provide a link to the regulation).

[Nikolaevich I]

Looking through the comments, I drew attention to the fact that some chelam (mainly from the recently "come in large numbers") did not come up with anything smarter than "sucking" the "pegs" and "panels", "stretched" in the sea! I will not now talk about the figurative professional (jargon) expressions (definitions) adopted in the relevant environment ... I just wanted to ask: where did the article say that they shot at targets placed in the sea (or, at least, in a pond - lake ...)?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

and where in the article did it say that they shot at targets placed in the sea (or at least in a pond-lake ...)?

Nikolaitch, hello!
This is not written anywhere, but since 3M22 sea rocket, then associative thinking suggested - you need to blow on the water!
As a result, everyone, according to their own understanding, began to play a target position ... Well, whoever drew his wild imagination ... That is why ponds with swans and lakes with canvas criss-cross-across appeared ...
What they were shooting at is also interesting for me, tk. you can dig a lot from the target by reversing ... Look, the whales on the silhouette of the AVMA in the desert were adjusting their DF-21 ... And it's immediately clear: optics, funnel, speed under 8M ...
And then ... OBS and more! But there is no doubt that it is the State Defense Ministry (PKR).
AHA.

[petrol cutter]

Now in parallel.
And yesterday, like in turn ...
The design thought jumps like my pressure however!
Plans change every five minutes! ..
Right now, how will they accelerate! .. The devil will catch up with the bald shipbuilding! ..

[Old26]

Quote: yehat2

I also have one more question - how long do all the zircon tests take?
according to what I've read, it has been published for over 3.5 years. Not too much?

According to open sources, the tests began in 2015. That means at least 6 years. How long the tests will last - HZ. Now we are talking about another 1-2 years. What will happen in real life - only trials will show

Quote: Kalmar

Of course, a short video in which the "Zircon" at full speed demolishes the target ship, would dispel many doubts ...

It is unlikely that such a video will appear in the near future. Why would an adversary show a terminal flight profile?

Quote: Kalmar

Quote: lucul

Why disclose secrecy? )))

And what is the secrecy? The fact that the rocket is and flies? So we and so from every iron shout about it. And the details of the design in a general plan cannot be discerned anyway.

I think that in the profile of the final leg of the flight.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

Are there any doubts that the target is hit with a dive?

[Old26]

Quote: Kalmar

Quote: Vlad Pervovich

and how do GI differ from LCI?

I believe that LCI is a test carried out by the developer during the development and refinement of the product. And when he decides that the product is ready, the GI follows - tests before the customer. If everything is even there, we can talk about adoption.

Probably we can say that in the process of carrying out LCI, changes in the design of one or another product are allowed (it is not for nothing that it is stipulated even in the contracts), but the GI is a test of the finished product, without any modifications. IMHO

[Gippo]

Well, judging by the video that was shown to us, "Onyx" was flying.
It is very easily identified by the direct-flow through engine.
If, roughly, imagine a MIG-21 without wings, thinner and shorter.
The video with "Zircon did not see", as well as the hypersonic unit.

[Gippo]

Everything new is well forgotten old. Or is it not?
https://topwar.ru/177899-oniks-vmesto-cirkona.html