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"We urge to observe the legal rights of investors": China reacted to the nationalization of Motor Sich

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Official Beijing called on Kiev to respect the legal rights and interests of Chinese investors who own shares in the Ukrainian company Motor Sich. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the PRC made a corresponding statement.


The official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China Hua Chunying, speaking on Thursday at a regular briefing, commented on the decree of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky on the "nationalization" of the Motor Sich company. According to the Chinese diplomat, Ukraine must protect the legitimate interests of Chinese investors.

We have seen the corresponding statement. We call on the Ukrainian side to protect the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese companies and investors and properly resolve the relevant issues.

- said in a statement by the Chinese Foreign Ministry.

As a reminder, Chinese investors own 56% of Motor Sich's shares purchased in 2016. Despite this, a decision was made in Kiev to "nationalize" the enterprise and transfer it to state ownership. Last week, the Shevchenko District Court of Kiev, on the basis of materials submitted by the Security Service of Ukraine, arrested all 100% of Motor Sich shares and transferred it to the management of the National Agency of Ukraine for the Identification, Search and Management of Assets Received from Corruption and Other Crimes (ARMA) ... In addition to the shares, all the company's property was also arrested.

On Wednesday, Zelenskiy signed a decree enacting the decision of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine on the "nationalization" of the enterprise.

Earlier, the Chinese investors in Motor Sich called on Kiev to abandon the so-called "nationalization", threatening otherwise with a claim for $ 3,6 billion as compensation for damage done to the investment business of the PRC.
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  1. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 25 March 2021 13: 34
    +6
    Well, there is a war going on between China and America, between Russia and America, but no one asked the opinion of the Ukrainians. There is a war going on until the last Ukrainian.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 25 March 2021 13: 36
      +5
      But I wonder what the Chinese will accept? They are clearly not limited to concern.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 March 2021 14: 17
        +2
        Quote: 210ox

        0
        But I wonder what the Chinese will accept? They are clearly not limited to concern.

        From childhood I remember that Chinese guys are cunning at inventions.
      2. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 25 March 2021 14: 17
        +2
        The Chinese bought the Brooklyn bridge
      3. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 25 March 2021 15: 54
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        But I wonder what the Chinese will accept?

        There is a Ukrainian minority, which, in my opinion, is faced by everyone who decided to work up fat in Ukraine:
        what is good for the Ukrainians, the pig is dead.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 25 March 2021 17: 03
          +4
          Quote: Bad_gr
          what is good for the Ukrainians, the pig is dead.

          Why then. Western pigs have grown very well in Ukraine. Soon, instead of Ukraine, there will be a bare steppe, bald Carpathians, and bare-assed independents. One thing is not clear why, Russians living on their land, drenched in the blood of Russian soldiers (by a strange coincidence, inherited by Ukraine), should suffer from the mentality of the farmstead descendants of the Sumerians.
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 25 March 2021 22: 42
            +1
            Quote: orionvitt
            Western pigs have grown very well in Ukraine.

            And ours are not very. Both the banking sector and the industrial sector.
            PS
            My statement is not about hard workers, but about those who are used to "cutting coupons".
        2. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 25 March 2021 20: 53
          -1
          Quote: Bad_gr
          to work up fat in Ukraine:
          what is good for the Ukrainians, the pig is dead.
          everything will be good !!!
          angry
      4. antivirus
        antivirus 25 March 2021 17: 55
        -1
        many traders will buy marginal grain and tp + industrial products and anything and almost pay off - promise a lot and disappear in Tibet, like "I went to enlightenment. When I return I'll pay 115%. But for now, wait for a friend." the question is the timing of the delay in payment. and the products are on the way and in stock in China already ....
      5. spectr
        spectr 26 March 2021 13: 10
        -1
        If no restrictive measures are introduced at the official level, nothing will be done. Only the risks of doing business in Ukraine will increase. Some businessmen will leave because of this, and others will come in their place, who are ready to take these risks in order to get out of "rags to riches".
        Well, it will be difficult for Ukraine to attract foreign investors for long-term projects. First of all, those projects will be considered where it is possible to beat off the "grandmother" quickly and with good interest.
  2. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 25 March 2021 13: 35
    +13
    We urge you to respect legal rights
    Are they turning to the Ukrainian authorities? China has been absent from the planet for the last 30 years?
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 25 March 2021 15: 22
      +6
      Illegal junta urged to respect legal rights laughing
  3. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 25 March 2021 13: 35
    +13
    Let's say thank you to Ukraine for opening their narrow eyes to the Chinese. And soon the Chinese will learn the meaning of the secret word "chutzpah", when Ukraine will also demand compensation for "Motor Sich" from them.
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 25 March 2021 15: 45
      +1
      Quote: Roma-1977
      And soon the Chinese will learn the meaning of the secret word "chutzpah", when Ukraine will also demand compensation for "Motor Sich" from them.

      That's for sure. Judging by the courts with Gazprom, during the period of Chinese investments in Motor Sich, Ukraine suffered multibillion-dollar losses.
  4. Skay
    Skay 25 March 2021 13: 36
    +7
    A fresh east wind was blowing ... a couple of million Chinese tourists got lost in the Donbass on their way to rest in Europe ...
    1. Sovpadenie
      Sovpadenie 25 March 2021 13: 51
      -2
      do you mean vacationers from the ranks of the armed forces of China?
  5. Yuri T.
    Yuri T. 25 March 2021 13: 36
    +5
    Sly dragon versus impudent boar)
    The result is very interesting
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 25 March 2021 13: 41
      +20
      Otse bude result:
  6. Cananecat
    Cananecat 25 March 2021 13: 38
    +1
    It began ... but in fact it is necessary to look at how legitimate the sale of 56% of MS shares to China was. The 404s may also consider the privatization of the enterprise illegal, return it to the state property and sell it again ... but only 49% of the shares. Could have foreseen such a multi-move even during privatization.
    1. Sly
      Sly 25 March 2021 13: 46
      +1
      Quote: Canecat
      ... The 404s may also consider the privatization of an enterprise illegal, return it to the state property and sell it again ... but only 49% of the shares.

      Doesn't nationalization mean 100% state ownership of shares? hi
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 25 March 2021 13: 56
        +5
        Can't the state itself trade the shares of its enterprises? (alaverdi)
      2. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 25 March 2021 14: 45
        0
        Not. A controlling stake is enough. But you can also 100%, in a Bolshevik way.
  7. Altona
    Altona 25 March 2021 13: 39
    +6
    "We urge you to respect the legal rights of investors"
    China reacts in a very peculiar way to all kinds of national restrictions. It was possible not to "nationalize" the ever-memorable enterprise, but to impose a higher tax rate or similar restrictions on it. In Chuvashia, for example, they are actively protesting against the launch of a Chinese dairy enterprise, as China advises the head of the republic to dismiss the head of the district. Not bad so. Interferes in the internal affairs of another state. If only Nikolaev (the head of Chuvashia) would call the conditional Shenzhen or Guangzhou and start advising the local prefect there.
    1. Andrey Shiryaev
      Andrey Shiryaev 25 March 2021 14: 02
      +1
      The yellow ones probably didn’t bring anyone in time !?
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 25 March 2021 14: 48
        +2
        They brought it in and calmed down. But in vain. In our saloon, in addition to money, you need to have a charged Colt in addition to money.
      2. Altona
        Altona 25 March 2021 16: 36
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Shiryaev
        The yellow ones probably didn’t bring anyone in time !?

        -------------------------
        They brought it in, it’s not a question for them to bring in three greens. Another question is that Verkhotura is ready to sell its residents for that kind of money. And here, with a blue eye, many defend such power from top to bottom.
  8. VORON538
    VORON538 25 March 2021 13: 44
    0
    The Chinese found someone to talk to
    It's all over there now, walk-field hi
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 25 March 2021 13: 50
    +1
    "We urge to observe the legal rights of investors": China reacted to the nationalization of Motor Sich
    HA, HA, they didn't know who they had contacted !!!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 March 2021 14: 23
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      HA, they didn't know who they had contacted !!!

      Science will be, as Lenin said, "Study, study and study again!"
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 25 March 2021 14: 59
        0
        So let's see who is receptive to science and how?
        Although, at the expense of extreme, everything is generally clear.
    2. knn54
      knn54 25 March 2021 15: 08
      +1
      The reluctance of Zelensky and Co to quarrel with the Yankees will cost Ukraine VERY dearly, as the latter NEVER solve the problems of their satellites. Therefore, the problem that arose due to participation in the economic war on the side of the United States, Kiev will have to solve on its own.
    3. cniza
      cniza 25 March 2021 16: 04
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      "We urge to observe the legal rights of investors": China reacted to the nationalization of Motor Sich
      HA, HA, they didn't know who they had contacted !!!



      They wanted to tidy up the little factory on the sly, and at the same time see the technology ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 25 March 2021 18: 06
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        They also wanted

        They stepped on a rake, on which others have already jumped, we certainly ... and then it's worth a look.
        1. cniza
          cniza 25 March 2021 18: 10
          +2
          But they won't give up so easily ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 25 March 2021 18: 14
            +1
            The Chinese decided, usually, without noise and dust ... it looks like the Yankees made them angry!
            1. cniza
              cniza 25 March 2021 20: 03
              +2
              And the Ukrainians will receive a trailer in full ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 25 March 2021 21: 11
                +1
                Themselves chose this .... Susanin.
  10. Maks1995
    Maks1995 25 March 2021 13: 54
    +3
    If it were not for Ukraine, then none of the media would have scratched themselves.
    A common raider takeover. And they stopped him.
    As with us, they suppressed this. - from the last one we met, they threw from the shores of Lake Baikal the promoted "legitimate entrepreneurs" who supplied water to China
    1. Atrix
      Atrix 25 March 2021 15: 28
      +2
      Well, this is Ukraine. If this happened somewhere in Russia, then the patsreots would be foaming at the mouth to prove what Putin is a tough business executive and took
      an enterprise in the bosom of the state.
  11. HAM
    HAM 25 March 2021 13: 59
    +1
    It turns out the classic: ".. and I myself will not din ... and I will not give to others ..." the end of the "kitten" (Motor) ....
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 March 2021 14: 25
      +2
      Quote: HAM
      "the end of the" kitten "(Motor) ....

      And it was a good kitten (plant) in the good old days.
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 25 March 2021 14: 47
        -2
        It is interesting how soon the "right" investors will enter Motor Sich because of a puddle, whom no one will refuse in Ukraine recourse
  12. Eug
    Eug 25 March 2021 14: 05
    +2
    How interesting ... what about compensation for damage? If earlier the relevant departments of Ukraine gave the go-ahead for the sale of the block of shares, then the buyers suffered such damage .. The Chinese will not get bogged down!
    1. Pavel Vladimirov
      Pavel Vladimirov 25 March 2021 14: 46
      0
      There will be no compensation, or China will catch trillions of lawsuits for deprivatization.
  13. A1845
    A1845 25 March 2021 14: 06
    0
    otherwise threatening to sue for $ 3,6 billion

    sue - you have to pay, tse are Europe!
  14. Free wind
    Free wind 25 March 2021 14: 12
    -3
    Zelenskiy and the Ukrainians had the courage to send the quick-eyed people to hell.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 March 2021 14: 27
      -1
      Quote: Free Wind
      Zelenskiy and the Ukrainians had the courage to send the quick-eyed people to hell.

      Out of fear, even the hare bites.
    2. VORON538
      VORON538 25 March 2021 14: 50
      -3
      This was not sent, it was at first they took money for the goods and then they took away the goods, but the money was not returned.
      In general, the scammers turned out to be juntas hi
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 25 March 2021 20: 01
      0
      He was ordered by the owners, he would not dare to disobey them.
      Earlier it was reported that China intends to acquire the Ukrainian enterprise Motor Sich, which is one of the leaders in engine building for aircraft. In August of this year, then-adviser to Donald Trump, John Bolton, was already arriving in Kiev to dissuade Zelensky from selling Motor Sich to the Chinese.
  15. xorek
    xorek 25 March 2021 14: 15
    -8
    Official Beijing called on Kiev to respect the legal rights and interests of Chinese investors who own shares in the Ukrainian company Motor Sich

    Kiev looked back at the United States, got a whip in the back seat and followed the order ..
    But China and Russia began to unite.! They are throwing, just specifically .. Get ready Bandera, soon in the Donbass Chinese comrades will appear with their weapons and other things together with Russia .. wink China is not Russian for you! They will be caught and sent to themselves .. for execution !!!!!
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 25 March 2021 15: 03
      -2
      Well, wait for the Chinese at home, expose yourself to them, Chinese henchmen.
  16. Baloo
    Baloo 25 March 2021 14: 34
    +1
    Official Beijing called on Kiev to respect the legal rights and interests of Chinese investors who own shares in the Ukrainian company Motor Sich.
    otherwise the lawsuit is against 3.6 lard, we will meet in court. wink Who are the judges? winked lol
    I would venture to suggest that Motors will declare itself bankrupt and create a new CJSC Sich Motor named after Bandera and Shukhevych. Motr Sich shares will be distributed to everyone.
    1. Pavel Vladimirov
      Pavel Vladimirov 25 March 2021 14: 44
      +1
      You have primitive knowledge that there is a joint-stock company)
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 25 March 2021 16: 32
        0
        "Rossava" Belaya Tserkov, tire factory. Owner
        oligarch Zhevago. I collected investments, loans from banks.
        At one fine moment, he held a meeting with lightning speed
        shareholders. Resolved - Rossava is bankrupt. Immediately created
        "according to the best foreign practices" two separate
        enterprises - pure production and pure marketing "with
        new names. NOT A SINGLE EMPLOYEE HAS BEEN FIRED-
        all wrote applications and went to work in new enterprises.
        Bankrupt "Rossava" RETURNED to the fund of Ukraine's state mine. Let it be
        power now thinks - she is now the owner of the plant again
        (well, the investor did not cope with the obligations, it happens) who will
        loans to return.
        Looks like Zhevago does not have primitive knowledge.
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 26 March 2021 21: 40
        0
        Yeah, for me Ukraine itself is like an endless quest in a mental hospital. yes
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 25 March 2021 15: 13
      +2
      Quote: Balu
      and then a lawsuit against 3.6 lard, we will meet in court. And who are the judges?

      But if those who made the decisions on nationalization were sure that the judges would issue the "correct" verdict, they would hardly have gone to such actions ... it could have been all blamed on the European judges, but then they themselves took the blow ...
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  18. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 25 March 2021 14: 37
    +3
    My opinion is sooo))))
    They want to nationalize, yes, no problem !!! Pay first at the real value of the share + lost profits and go ahead, into battle and with a song wassat
    And sooo ... Kidok of the Chinese in full am hi
  19. Scorpion85
    Scorpion85 25 March 2021 14: 39
    -1
    Ukraine will not give up its Arkenstone laughing
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 25 March 2021 14: 53
      -2
      And who in the modern world asks the opinion of Ukraine ???
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 25 March 2021 20: 05
      0
      Its there since 2014 0.0.
  20. Dmitriy444
    Dmitriy444 25 March 2021 14: 41
    +2
    The Chinese will not get tired, they are not ours. Moreover, a government loan was taken for this deal. So, let's wait.
    1. Eug
      Eug 25 March 2021 17: 30
      0
      According to Du Tao - (head of Skyrizon) - the company has filed a claim in the international investment court for $ 3.6 billion.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 26 March 2021 21: 42
      0
      Quote: Dmitriy444
      The Chinese will not get tired, they are not ours. Moreover, a government loan was taken for this deal. So, let's wait.

      Well, yes, they will come as tourists to the Donbass as many as 20 million and surrender to the banderlog.
  21. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 25 March 2021 14: 42
    +6
    I do not understand why gloating and banter? Our people do not at all understand that China acquired a controlling stake in a strategic (in the world sense) enterprise through corruption? The question here is to contain the country as such, and it is natural that the United States intelligibly explained to the Ukrainians that it was an overkill in every sense. Moreover, it is easier for the Americans to cover the costs of Ukraine from aggravated relations with China than to allow China to access technology. Yes, and I would not advise us to kiss on the lips with an eastern brother - he is not a brother to us either culturally, economically or ideologically.
    1. VO3A
      VO3A 25 March 2021 18: 24
      -1
      China bought a controlling stake in Motor Sich from a private Ukrainian owner several years ago! Or rather at the director Boguslaev! What kind of nationalization can there be? Let them prepare to compensate China for losses by the decision of international arbitration ...
      There are no references to the ban on selling to a foreign investor in the statutory documents! It's not like in Norway when Russia buys a propulsion plant ...
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 26 March 2021 12: 14
        0
        Let them prepare to compensate China for losses by the decision of international arbitration ...
        There are no references to the ban on selling to a foreign investor in the statutory documents!

        Can you select the level of the problem and the potential danger for Russia? I understand that it is commendable to omit Ukraine now in certain circles in a trend, but everything has a limit determined by common sense and it is a pity that you do not see it in this situation. Now we are not talking about whether something is spelled out in the statutory documents or not. The problem is that a strategic enterprise has fallen into the hands of China. Undoubtedly, Ukraine should have initially controlled Motor Sich, and here it is. But neither the Americans nor Russia can allow the transfer by the Chinese. In this case, fine graters in the form of donbas are raked from the table into the trash heap until better times and a solution to a really dangerous problem will begin. No one in the world needs a horde of Chinese combat helicopters overhead in 5 years.
        And excuse me, now everyone wanted to spit on the charter of the enterprise and the concern of China
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 26 March 2021 12: 24
          -1
          Can you select the level of the problem and the potential danger for Russia?

          And that's another question! No one here will argue with you ... In this whole story, it is touching the fact that only China needs the products of this enterprise, and Ukraine is killing its only promising market with its nationalization, and most importantly, so quickly ...
          1. Bshkaus
            Bshkaus April 2 2021 06: 52
            -1
            In this whole story, it is touching the fact that the products of this enterprise are needed only by China, and Ukraine, with its nationalization, is killing its only promising market, and most importantly, so quickly ...

            Okay, but I would like to hear your opinion on the nationalization of enterprises of the domestic military-industrial complex in case of ineffective work, which Putin said the other day
  22. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 25 March 2021 14: 51
    -2
    No one will prevent the PRC from recognizing the LDNR and providing assistance in repelling the aggression of the Nazis of Ukraine, and at the same time returning the plant. The Donbass needs infantry. There were many Chinese civilians in the Red Army.
  23. Evil 55
    Evil 55 25 March 2021 15: 03
    +1
    But the sale of shares of a strategically important enterprise was clearly under the control and with the permission of the then government of Petro the Bloody ... So, except as an obvious scam of China on the part of UKRALina, this decision can not be called.
  24. Viktor Afanasev
    Viktor Afanasev 25 March 2021 15: 08
    -1
    Not to yourself, not to people ...
    Ukraine will finish off Motor Sich ... Soon there will be only ruins ...
    1. Scorpion85
      Scorpion85 25 March 2021 15: 17
      -3
      I stumbled. Ukroboronprom is ready to take over the management of the Motor Sich plant. March 22. INTERFAX.RU - The State Concern Ukroboronprom is ready to take over the assets of the Motor Sich plant, the largest manufacturer of engines for aircraft and gas turbine units in Ukraine, to preserve its potential, said Ukroboronprom CEO Yuriy Gusev.

      According to Gusev, who is quoted by the press service of Ukroboronprom, the state concern has already sent a letter to ARMA (National Agency of Ukraine for the Identification, Search and Management of Assets Received from Corruption and Other Crimes - IF) about its readiness to act as the subject of asset management of the joint-stock company Motor Sich "
      1. Viktor Afanasev
        Viktor Afanasev 25 March 2021 15: 21
        +1
        Without Russian purchases, this enterprise will not last long. Little went to the domestic market.
        China could modernize and then purchase products.
        And now that's it
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 25 March 2021 16: 47
          +2
          Quote: Viktor Afanasev
          China could modernize and then purchase products.

          Upgrade ... the plans were slightly different ...
          The Ukrainian company "Motor Sich" and the Chinese industrial consortium Skyrizon Aviation will build a plant in China for the production of engines for aircraft and helicopters. The plant will produce, under a Ukrainian license, AI-322F engines for the L-15 Hongdu, D-436-148FM trainer aircraft and MS-500V-S for An-158, An-178 and L-410 transport aircraft, as well as TV3-117VMA-SBM1V for Mi-8 helicopters. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/5784269
          1. Viktor Afanasev
            Viktor Afanasev 25 March 2021 16: 53
            0
            If so, then the Ukrainian Motor Sich is in any case. Nationalize or not ...
          2. Eug
            Eug 25 March 2021 17: 39
            +1
            Another AI-20 for the Chinese version of the An-12 and the Chinese flying boat.
        2. Eug
          Eug 25 March 2021 17: 36
          0
          Moreover, raw materials (metals, rubber), parts, components for the MS come from Russia by 70 percent .. Whether it will allow these deliveries to the STATE enterprise of Ukraine is a big question. At least, Russia has powerful arguments for influencing the MS in terms of the purchase of the most urgently needed spare parts for D-18T engines for Ross. AN-124 ...
  25. NF68
    NF68 25 March 2021 15: 27
    +1
    To horses these calls are like a dead poultice. A kind slap on the head after the last Chinese warning would have been much more significant.
  26. APASUS
    APASUS 25 March 2021 15: 28
    +2
    It turned out interestingly with Motor Sich, the Chinese demand the observance of the rights of investors from Ukraine, although they must first of all apply to the USA.
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 March 2021 16: 02
      +1
      I think they will apply, just not officially, since the United States is an unofficial manager of Ukraine ... lol
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 25 March 2021 16: 42
        +1
        Why don't they turn to father Lkashenka.?
        Boguslaev bought a plant in Belarus, made a branch
        Motorsichi nahimichit there. Father came personally, kicked out
        Boguslaev Wed .... with a broom, climbed onto the workbench and announced on
        the whole plant - from this day on, the plant is state
        And this is without any security advice, courts, etc., etc.
        The man, as he should have, just banged his fist on the table
        (well added with a knee in the ass)
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  28. Irbiz123
    Irbiz123 25 March 2021 15: 57
    +1
    And what could be so?
  29. cniza
    cniza 25 March 2021 16: 00
    +2
    As a reminder, Chinese investors own 56% of Motor Sich's shares purchased in 2016.


    I had to think, especially in 2016, when everything was clear with Ukraine ...
  30. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 25 March 2021 17: 56
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    But I wonder what the Chinese will accept? They are clearly not limited to concern.

    The Chinese will remember, throw out business from their market laughing The money was taken from the state bank of China, in fact, they were thrown by the state itself, this is not forgiven. laughing
  31. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 25 March 2021 18: 05
    0
    An example of how whales buoy their investments. https://riafan.ru/1407143- zaimy-kitaya-i-dolgi-kenii-pochemu-port-mombas ... Contract with M-S, if memory doesn't lie, 3,5 yards, plus 100 million in advance paid ... They will drag the chubaty to arbitration, do not go to the grandmother.  laughing
  32. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 25 March 2021 18: 06
    0
    Whatever one may say, China was humiliated. And it seems that for the Chinese the main thing here is not even that they humiliated, but that who humiliated them. Some kind of parody of the state. It is unlikely that the Chinese will take this insult so easily. Otherwise, how great are they?  laughing
  33. Kushka
    Kushka 25 March 2021 19: 06
    0
    Quote: Evil 55
    But the sale of shares of a strategically important enterprise was clearly under the control and with permission the then government of Petro Bloody .. So, except as an obvious scammer of China on the part of UKRALINA, this decision can not be called.


    There was no such permission! Neither from the previous government, nor from the previous one.
    [i] In materials published in the Unified State Register of Court Decisions, it is said that in 2016 the owner of the enterprise Vyacheslav Boguslaev sold 56,009% of shares seven companiesaffiliated with China's Beijing Skyrizon Aviation Industry Investment Co. Ltd. At the same time, the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine reported that did not give permission for the transaction, what is necessary in such cases.
    In July 2017, the Security Service of Ukraine drew attention to the transaction, which began criminal proceedings under Part 1 of Art. 14 (preparation for a crime) and art. 113 (sabotage) of the Criminal Code.
    In April 2018, the Shevchenko District Court of Kiev seized 56% of Motor Sichi's shares owned by foreign investors. Until the end of the pre-trial investigation, the court banned any actions with the seized assets that could lead to a change in their owner. The shares are still under arrest.
    In 2019, Boguslaev confirmed that he had sold the enterprise to a Chinese company. According to the businessman, the Chinese have pledged to invest $ 250 million in the enterprise within two years.
    The Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine rejected several times the application of Chinese investors for the purchase of Motor Sichi. Skyrizon tried to get such permission together with the DCH company of Ukrainian businessman Alexander Yaroslavsky.

    Boguslaev himself recently stated that the MC did indeed receive
    from the Chinese 100 million in the most difficult period for the plant,
    but the plant did not see any more money. Where does 3,6 lard come from?
    Total:
    Seven "Chinese" were bought from the Soviet huckster Boguslaev
    its 56%, without having received the permission of the AMCU (regulator),
    as a result, these 56% were arrested back in April 2018.
    and still arrested!
    The Chinese drove in from the other side - hooked up the oligarch
    Yaroslavsky - they jumped - now they have arrested all 100%.
    Boguslaev brought MC to the handle, lost assets in Belarus
    and decided to throw everyone, both Ukraine and China.
    Ze did the same that Lukashenka did to Boguslaev-
    gave a knee in the ass. And the Chinese should have understood
    what Lukashenka understood - who he contacted.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 25 March 2021 20: 01
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      Quote: Kushka
      Where does 3,6 lard come from?

      In addition to the MC itself, there is an agreement on the construction of a plant in China (the volume of investments is expected to be about 20 billion yuan ($ 2,8 billion)), and if it was thwarted due to the fault of Ukrainian "colleagues", why can't he enter the lawsuit .. ..
  34. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 25 March 2021 19: 44
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    Quote: Kushka
    Quote: Evil 55
    But the sale of shares of a strategically important enterprise was clearly under the control and with permission the then government of Petro Bloody .. So, except as an obvious scammer of China on the part of UKRALINA, this decision can not be called.


    There was no such permission! Neither from the previous government, nor from the previous one.
    [i] In materials published in the Unified State Register of Court Decisions, it is said that in 2016 the owner of the enterprise Vyacheslav Boguslaev sold 56,009% of shares seven companiesaffiliated with China's Beijing Skyrizon Aviation Industry Investment Co. Ltd. At the same time, the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine reported that did not give permission for the transaction, what is necessary in such cases.
    In July 2017, the Security Service of Ukraine drew attention to the transaction, which began criminal proceedings under Part 1 of Art. 14 (preparation for a crime) and art. 113 (sabotage) of the Criminal Code.
    In April 2018, the Shevchenko District Court of Kiev seized 56% of Motor Sichi's shares owned by foreign investors. Until the end of the pre-trial investigation, the court banned any actions with the seized assets that could lead to a change in their owner. The shares are still under arrest.
    In 2019, Boguslaev confirmed that he had sold the enterprise to a Chinese company. According to the businessman, the Chinese have pledged to invest $ 250 million in the enterprise within two years.
    The Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine rejected several times the application of Chinese investors for the purchase of Motor Sichi. Skyrizon tried to get such permission together with the DCH company of Ukrainian businessman Alexander Yaroslavsky.

    Boguslaev himself recently stated that the MC did indeed receive
    from the Chinese 100 million in the most difficult period for the plant,
    but the plant did not see any more money. Where does 3,6 lard come from?
    Total:
    Seven "Chinese" were bought from the Soviet huckster Boguslaev
    its 56%, without having received the permission of the AMCU (regulator),
    as a result, these 56% were arrested back in April 2018.
    and still arrested!
    The Chinese drove in from the other side - hooked up the oligarch
    Yaroslavsky - they jumped - now they have arrested all 100%.
    Boguslaev brought MC to the handle, lost assets in Belarus
    and decided to throw everyone, both Ukraine and China.
    Ze did the same that Lukashenka did to Boguslaev-
    gave a knee in the ass. And the Chinese should have understood
    what Lukashenka understood - who he contacted.

    Motor Sich received a $ 100 million loan at 0,3% per annum, and in general, a company from China transferred about $ 250 million to Boguslaev's company. The Chinese holding received 56% of the company's shares in 2017. laughing
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 25 March 2021 21: 40
      -2
      But I don't think so.
      1. Power glues flippers (90s) and says-
      guys - EU, market, go ahead, I wash my hands.
      2. The guys get together and declare themselves AO.
      That is, absolutely FREE, THE WHOLE team
      groans PRIVATE.
      3. Then SUDDENLY it turns out (after a while),
      that ALMOST ALL shares belong to ONE person-
      To the head of the board-director of the plant.
      (stress-free), this is 10 times out of 10.
      4. Then this is the owner, having eaten enough,
      suddenly announces - I'm tired, I want to babysit my grandchildren
      and SELL PLANT for 100500 lemons!
      And sold-NORMAL?
      Questions:
      1. Did he buy it? How much?
      2. Who will repay his debts (loans)?
      3. Who will be the new owner - 7 Chinese,
      77 Chinese, 777 Chinese?
      4.What will happen to workers and engineers,
      After all, they are also (initially) owners?
      5. What of this (before our eyes leaves
      very valuable asset)?
  35. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 25 March 2021 19: 47
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    With a high degree of probability, Motor Sich will cease to exist. The lack of markets and investment will do the trick. laughing In addition to $ 3,5 billion, which is likely to have to be paid to China, there will be other losses. First of all, the agro-industrial complex will have problems.

    In the first half of 2020, agricultural exports to China amounted to $ 2,4 billion. The PRC needs food imports, and Ukraine is helping it a lot in this. Moreover, the PRC is investing in infrastructure. Chinese firms are building grain processing plants. A transshipment complex was built in the Nikolaev port, and the port itself was considered as a participant in the New Silk Road project. It looks like all this will be covered with a basin laughing

    China has interests in the construction and energy sectors. Chinese companies have financed the construction of the Dniester hydroelectric power station, invests in solar energy. Companies from the PRC act as contractors for the construction of bridges and roads.
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 25 March 2021 21: 51
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      I agree that the possession of power by such an asset,
      as MS does not promise anything good for the plant. As the saying goes,
      the state is not an effective owner. And examples
      to that darkness - ZhD, Antonov. And in the case of Ukraine ........
      But it is hard to believe in your "basin" that it is "not effective".
      Covers, covers - both aircraft and shipbuilding,
      and rocketry, and gas transit, and TVELs - and not that
      Ukraine will not be covered. And then the Chinese will swat her like a fly.
      Yeah, right now.
  36. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 25 March 2021 21: 47
    -1
    Quote: Kushka
    But I don't think so.
    1. Power glues flippers (90s) and says-
    guys - EU, market, go ahead, I wash my hands.
    2. The guys get together and declare themselves AO.
    That is, absolutely FREE, THE WHOLE team
    groans PRIVATE.
    3. Then SUDDENLY it turns out (after a while),
    that ALMOST ALL shares belong to ONE person-
    To the head of the board-director of the plant.
    (stress-free), this is 10 times out of 10.
    4. Then this is the owner, having eaten enough,
    suddenly announces - I'm tired, I want to babysit my grandchildren
    and SELL PLANT for 100500 lemons!
    And sold-NORMAL?
    Questions:
    1. Did he buy it? How much?
    2. Who will repay his debts (loans)?
    3. Who will be the new owner - 7 Chinese,
    77 Chinese, 777 Chinese?
    4.What will happen to workers and engineers,
    After all, they are also (initially) owners?
    5. What of this (before our eyes leaves
    very valuable asset)?

    Here with God and ask laughing You have ceevropa laughing
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 26 March 2021 12: 28
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      I am surprised that they didn’t ask their own people from him before.
      Boguslaev, Landyk, Boyko - mastodons of the Soviet period,
      "red" directors, Kuchma's class ("Yuzhmash"). And promyadro
      Party of Regions (created by Poroshenko and Azarov)
      Landyk was trampled by their own. Boyko (Azovstal) trampled Akhmetov
      already old, weak (Azovstal).
      Under Gunpowder, they did not touch him either (see the reason above).
      And now a new circle - the green ones came and went under the distribution
      Medvedchuk, Kolomoisky, Boguslaev. Banal redistribution.
      (young lions piled on the old one)
      Boguslaev became old, lost his sense of smell - flew in Minsk
      (Father nationalized the plant) - it will fly in Kiev too.
      And the MC will be sold, Ukraine simply cannot afford it, as well as
      Antonov.
  37. Vdi73
    Vdi73 26 March 2021 09: 18
    +1
    One thing I like is how the Chinese were taught to understand who the "Sumerians" are in pots, while the "Sumerians" themselves
  38. martin-159
    martin-159 27 March 2021 08: 20
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    Quote: Incvizitor
    Illegal junta urged to respect legal rights laughing

    As far as I know, this is the officially recognized government. Recognized by our government.