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How the British government wanted to survive a nuclear war

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In the first decades of the Cold War, when it became clear that the USSR, albeit totally inferior in those years in the number and growth rate of its nuclear arsenal, nevertheless had a serious retaliatory strike potential, and this potential due to qualitative growth (emphasis on ballistic missiles) is growing rapidly, Western countries have taken care of how to minimize the consequences of strikes, at least for the leadership of the countries. After all, then they planned to start first, although it is not a fact that if something happened, they would be the first to start - the concept of a preemptive strike by the Soviet military leadership was never rejected. And the Russian, as we know, too.


On the seas, on the waves, now here, and tomorrow there ...


The system of the CPSU - air command posts did not exist in those years, it will appear later, in the second half of the 60s and beyond. There was no equipment that could fit into the planes of that time and provide stable communications and combat control. There were no suitable aircraft yet, and most importantly, there was no particular need. The extremely low accuracy of the then delivery vehicles, albeit compensated by the excess power when hitting area targets, when hitting buried protected targets, was the determining factor why the then ICBMs, SLBMs or MRBMs were ineffective against such targets. The issue with mobile command posts was resolved differently.

The Americans, as part of the NECPA (National Emergency Command Post Afloat) program, built two floating emergency command posts for the leadership. One was the Northampton CC-1 ("Northampton"), that is, the "command ship". It was originally an early post-war Oregon City-class light cruiser, completed as a command light cruiser, and then rebuilt as a command post for military and political leadership. The second ship was the SS-2 Wright, originally a Saipan-class light aircraft carrier. The second ship was equipped especially on a grand scale: the size of the aircraft carrier made it possible to accommodate a lot of powerful and voluminous equipment there, to equip a bunch of premises for the headquarters and management, and the maintenance personnel could be taken fairly. There were about 200 communications specialists alone. It was used as a base for helicopters and even an unmanned helicopter, unique for the early 60s, with an extended antenna for ultra-long-wave radio communication! There were plans to turn one of the first US nuclear submarines into a third "command ship", but they did not grow together. The scenario of their use assumed the evacuation of the leadership on them during the crisis period, before the start of a possible war, and not at the very beginning. But even in the "Caribbean Crisis" there was no leadership on them, although the "Northampton" was prepared to accept it.


SS-2 Wright in 1963


SS-1 Northampton in 1959

These ships were rarely used for their intended purpose, although Presidents Kennedy and Johnson visited them on exercises and even occasionally spent the night. After 1970, they were taken to the reserve, and in 1977-1980. - disposed of. The era of the CPSU has come. By the way, the first VKP in the United States, EC-135J Night Watch, although it entered the service back in 1962, was unsuccessful and could be in the sky for a fairly limited time.

And what about London?


And how did the leaders of the United Kingdom plan to survive the nuclear war in those years, which at that time was still a very powerful state? In the Cold War, the British government's survival plans are indeed divided into 3 main phases. The first, which lasted until the early 1950s, involved the widespread use of antiquated World War II hideouts in London, such as the Admiralty Citadel, Cabinet War Rooms and other similar hideouts.

It was then assumed that a relatively small amount of atomic weapons, single ammunition (the USSR then had much less bombs than the West thought, and Britain might simply not have enough then) with limited accuracy and destructive potential, and that this was not an unreasonable assumption that absolutely most of Great Britain would survive. To this end, London will continue to function in one form or another as the capital, and most of the government will remain, albeit hiding in shelters and other unaffected areas of the city.

Since the mid-1950s, with the introduction of hydrogen bombs and ballistic missiles, ammunition has grown and delivery accuracy has increased - it has become clear that there is little chance of London surviving a nuclear attack, and that the government will be destroyed in these old vaults. ... British planning then focused on a dispersed system of government headquarters, using many obsolete bunkers and several other facilities, including WWII underground factories, and each headquarters would have to govern its own region. More precisely, with what was left of it. Each region would have an empowered (usually a senior minister) and supported by various branches of government to oversee survival and recovery (there were such hopes).

This form of regionalized governance lasted until the end of the Cold War, and as unfashionable as it may sound, the UK was actually pretty well organized (the British think so, the Russians had a different opinion) when it came to work planning. local, regional and central governments in World War III. Over time, it became clear that huge efforts were made throughout the country to build all kinds of scattered protected facilities of various levels. It is unlikely that this would have saved the British from defeat, but their plans were more elaborate than those of the same United States in the same years, although they were not suitable for the planning of the USSR in this matter and its allies.

Korsham - how to make something useful from an old aircraft factory


And what about the very central authority of the Kingdom? From the mid-1950s to 1968, the plan was simple - the government was to land en masse at the facility in Corsham, known by various names, including STOCKWELL, TURNSTILE, BURLINGTON, EYEGLASS.

How the British government wanted to survive a nuclear war
Object Korsham, plan of structures

In peacetime, this place was not "inhabited", its location was classified, and only a tiny handful of people knew the true nature of what was happening there. Well, of course, they thought so in London, but in Moscow they knew that the "Cambridge Five" and our other intelligence officers worked very effectively. Extensive plans have been drawn up that, if increased activity, government departments will be mobilized to travel to the Korsham site according to carefully crafted plans. Upon arrival, office blocks and telephone numbers were arranged in advance - now you can look in the former top-secret telephone directory and find out the exact room number and extension number required to contact the First Sea Lord or Prime Minister. The site, formerly an underground aircraft factory during World War II, was located in old quarries and was huge. At least, he was so for those years. It had enough space for about 4000 people to live in relative comfort, had many canteens (including one for senior civil servants and a women's canteen), a hospital with an operating room, several office blocks, and a vast array of communications that allowed the British government to conduct war.




A couple of photos from the facility in Korsham

Korsham was an excellent central headquarters for the government in terms of convenience, but it was also a very vulnerable target. In the event of a general war, at the moment when he went on the air, he would transmit signals and would be easily detected (if we forget that Moscow already knew about him). It would probably have been destroyed right at the beginning of the war, because it was not so deeply buried. Yes, and it is not necessary to destroy such an object completely - the later tactics of dealing with super-protected large bunkers involves striking all possible reconnoitered exits from the object, which would lead, if not to destruction, then to the immuring of those who were there forever and ever, and without communication - already after a few blows, it would hardly have survived. True, at the time when this Korsham was the main object, the warheads did not yet provide the required accuracy.

But it was much easier to destroy Korsham, and in the second half of the 60s, they realized this in London. A different solution was required, and the British thought they had found it. But more on that in the second part.
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  1. apro
    apro 28 March 2021 05: 00
    -11%
    A big mistake of the leadership of the USSR is the obligation not to use yaba first. No matter how much money is saved for peaceful construction, and the combat stability of the enemy's control systems would have sagged greatly.
    1. Sevastiec
      Sevastiec 28 March 2021 05: 51
      +8
      The Soviet leadership did not have such a "commitment."
      1. Sergey M. Karasev
        Sergey M. Karasev 28 March 2021 06: 31
        +9
        It was. Andropov announced it loudly.
        1. Avior
          Avior 28 March 2021 07: 00
          +15
          Actually, this statement was formally even under Brezhnev, in the summer of 1982.
          And, frankly, the world did not really believe in him. It was perceived as an element of propaganda.
          1. Sergey M. Karasev
            Sergey M. Karasev 28 March 2021 07: 13
            +7
            Well, the Americans did not even stutter about such obligations. And to believe or not to believe is a personal matter. Thank God, there was no reason to be convinced of his veracity.
            1. Avior
              Avior 28 March 2021 08: 34
              +11
              For the Americans, behind such a statement should have been a law adopted by the decision of the Congress, the president did not have the authority to make such statements on his own behalf, and could have declared impeachment for this.
              It was easier with such things in the USSR.
          2. YOUR
            YOUR 28 March 2021 07: 31
            +4
            Not a single country with nuclear weapons has anything in its military doctrine about a nuclear strike first.
            There is about a preemptive strike, at least in the Military Doctrine of the USSR it was, with the aim of disrupting a massive strike on the country.
            So it is with the rest.
            But these are political statements, which, as we have seen more than once, politicians can at any time refuse at the same time so coolly arguing. It concerns not only nuclear weapons and military operations.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 28 March 2021 07: 48
        +1
        there was a rejection of an impudent foreign policy - we are for peace.
      3. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 March 2021 07: 48
        +4
        Quote: Sevastiec
        The Soviet leadership did not have such a "commitment."

        Russia has no concept preventive nuclear strike, as the author states:
        the concept of a preemptive strike by the Soviet military leadership has never been rejected. And Russian, as we know, also.

        The use of nuclear weapons in accordance with the 2020 Presidential Decree approving “Fundamentals of the state policy of the Russian Federation in the field of nuclear deterrence ", are carried out exclusively in the ANSWER to aggression against the Russian Federation or its allies ..
        1. Avior
          Avior 28 March 2021 08: 35
          +5
          Moreover, against the allies, only in response to a nuclear strike against them.
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 28 March 2021 08: 40
          -4
          It remains only to clarify what exactly is meant by
          RESPONSE to aggression against the Russian Federation or its allies ..
          .
          After all, the current false fabrications against us and the concentration of NATO armed forces near our borders is not an aggression against the Russian Federation?
        3. Operator
          Operator 28 March 2021 09: 04
          +4
          According to the Fundamentals of the State Policy of the Russian Federation in the Field of Nuclear Deterrence, the Russian Federation has the right to the first nuclear strike on the enemy (in the sense after a strike at us with conventional weapons) - in the event of a threat to the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation: for example, when trying to seize the islands of the Lesser Kuril ridge.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 28 March 2021 10: 38
            -2
            Quote: Operator
            The Russian Federation, according to the "Fundamentals of State Policy of the Russian Federation in the Field of Nuclear Deterrence", has the right to first nuclear strike on the enemy (in the sense after hitting us with conventional weapons)


            Preventive (as in the article) does not mean "first", but means warning anything; safety; wearing warning character in relation to only still THREATS.

            Russia has a similar no and in remembrance, according to the Decree, only ANSWER to the ALREADY carried out aggression
            1. Operator
              Operator 28 March 2021 11: 08
              -3
              And what else (besides a preventive one) can the first nuclear strike from our side be - aggressive, or what? laughing

              Our first nuclear strike prevents the development of aggression against us, therefore it is also a preventive one.

              I do not understand the logic of the author of the article, I am talking about an objective situation: according to the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation, in these cases, it will be the first to deliver a nuclear strike - in the sense of a possible nuclear strike by the enemy will be the second in line.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 29 March 2021 08: 25
                0
                Quote: Operator
                And what else (except preventive) maybe the first nuclear strike from our side - aggressive, or what?

                Learn (see above) what proactive means.

                Preemptive strike is ALREADY strike on STILL NOT taken place aggression any weapon.

                From the definition, it follows that the Russian strike will be RESPONSIBLE - to the already EXISTING aggression
          2. dSK
            dSK 29 March 2021 01: 59
            +1
            Quote: Operator
            when trying to sever the islands
            The last statement of Vladimir Vladimirovich in response to Biden's remark:
            "the only country in the world, which used nuclear, atomic weapons, and against a non-nuclear state - against Japan, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, at the end of World War II. There was absolutely no military sense in this."(18.03.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX.)

            After that, it is hard to believe that nuclear weapons will be used against Japan. Only if the United States "presents" it, how can Italy and the Japanese decide to use it. And why do they need it to get a "nuclear" response?
            The modern further development of the Japanese Navy and Air Force allows Japan to hope for a successful squeezing out of the "islands" with conventional weapons ...
            1. gsev
              gsev 29 March 2021 03: 07
              0
              Quote: dsk
              After that, it is hard to believe that nuclear weapons will be used against Japan.

              It seems that any missile launched in the direction of Russia can cause a retaliatory nuclear strike against the aggressor who planned this attack. For example, I understand it this way, for example, an attack on the Crimea of ​​Ukraine with the use of conventional weapons causes a Russian nuclear strike against the United States, of course "retaliatory-preventive". In the event of an independent attack by Japan on the Kuril Islands, which the United States absolutely does not need, a nuclear strike should be delivered only against Japan. ,
            2. Operator
              Operator 29 March 2021 08: 44
              -3
              What does the situation of 1945 have to do with it - Japan is against all, and even with full mobilization and fresh four-year experience of total war of all of them?

              The situation of non-use of nuclear weapons against the territorial aggression of Japan against the Lesser Kuril ridge can arise only in the event of the formation of international armed forces from among the contingents of the Russian Federation, the USA, the PRC, etc. The UN Security Council in full compliance with the Charter of this organization - by the type of the decision of 1951 (the USSR did not use its veto right) during the conflict on the Korean Peninsula. Well, and the use of these international forces on the Japanese islands.

              But this is a purely hypothetical option. bully
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 28 March 2021 05: 05
    -4
    Apartments in such storage facilities allow you to place anything there, up to a nuclear power plant. You can even organize greenhouses with vegetable gardens. So the elite can exist there for a while, until the energy resources run out, and there you can see you can also winter out the nuclear winter.
    It will be interesting to see the truth at the mutations of the human body and other living creatures in the infected areas.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 28 March 2021 05: 46
      +5
      But not for everyone!
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 28 March 2021 05: 54
        -2
        Fertilizers will be used. what
        1. dSK
          dSK 29 March 2021 02: 08
          +2
          We are currently missing Civil defense, also "will not seem a little".
          "The Soviet Union, Russia suffered the largest, irreparable losses. It is still impossible to count, the last figure that is called - 27 million people who died. But after all these are mainly civilians, civilians of our country mainly, because the combat losses were much less. "Vladimir Vladimirovich - (18.03.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX.)
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 29 March 2021 05: 08
      +2
      It will be interesting to see the truth at the mutations of the human body
      I wonder who has it !? At home, or at a neighbor's ... laughing wink
  3. arhitroll
    arhitroll 28 March 2021 05: 35
    +2
    It is imperative to take a closer look at the places where conditional reptilians plan to sit out a future nuclear war. Be sure to shmaltnut on the elite or make it clear that we know ...
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 28 March 2021 07: 34
      +3
      It is we who do not know where such places can be, but our partners, as in other things, and we are well aware. Well, if only because it is hardly possible to hide such a large-scale construction, and even underground.
  4. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 28 March 2021 06: 35
    +1
    It was used as a base for helicopters and even an unmanned helicopter, unique for the early 60s, with an extended antenna for ultra-long-wave radio communication!

    It is necessary to understand, tethered, with control and power supply of motors by cable. Not that super-duper-high-tech even for the early 60s.
    1. Avior
      Avior 28 March 2021 07: 04
      +2
      Unlikely. There were no efficient and reliable electric helicopters back then.
      And the important task was communication with submarines.
  5. YOUR
    YOUR 28 March 2021 07: 38
    +1
    As fantastic nonsense, I hope so.
    Let's say the Third World War with the use of nuclear weapons. The Presidents are jumping with their neighbors in the All-Union Communist Party. It was remarkable that they escaped from the blows on the ground and, perhaps, even stayed in the air, nevertheless, the shock waves will be impressive, and even superimposed on each other. But the question is, the fuel is not infinite and where it will land. We need an airfield with a large runway of at least 2 500 - 3500 m, but such airfields will be a priority.
    Will they be brought down and immediately to the depth so as not to be spotted?
    1. Reader 2013
      Reader 2013 28 March 2021 13: 07
      +1
      They will change to Siberian Cranes
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 29 March 2021 05: 24
      +1
      We need an airfield with a large size of at least 2 500 - 3500 m
      So, to destroy them all is a big problem ...!? wink Therefore, the VKP, an excellent solution at the present time ...

      1. United States:
      - Runway (with hard surface of runways), more than 3,047 m: 189 units;
      - Runway, from 2,438 to 3,047 m: 235 units;

      2. United Kingdom:
      - Runway, more than 3,047 m: 7 units;
      - Runway, from 2,438 to 3,047 m: 29 units;

      3. European Union:
      - Runway, more than 3,047 m: 120 units;
      - Runway, from 2,438 to 3,047 m: 341 units;

      4. Russia:
      - Runway, more than 3,047 m: 54 units;
      - Runway, from 2,438 to 3,047 m: 197 units;
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 29 March 2021 07: 45
        +1
        They are all close to major cities or air force bases. Will not be ignored. But let them find something, land the plane, then what actions? Walking to the nearest surviving hideout? Or some other options are available
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 29 March 2021 08: 05
          +3
          But let them find something, land the plane, then what actions? Walking to the nearest surviving hideout? Or some other options are available
          and this is not for me, but for the specialists from the security and the crew of the All-Union Communist Party, personally in those and there - he did not serve and I think the vultures, there are fenced off on the plans of events ... laughing wink
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 29 March 2021 08: 42
            0
            I have no doubt that there are plans. But as a rule, as soon as they are faced with reality, they fly to hell.
            A Boeing E-4 can stay in the air at one refueling for 12-14 hours, subject to refueling for a week.
            Well, think for yourself who will allow him to refuel. It is quite possible that a couple of tankers will take off with him, which will provide again from fantasy 2 refueling. The tankers themselves also need to stay in the air due to something.
            And at this time, hell is below. More than 7 thousand warheads.
            For some reason, I am sure that no one will step beyond the threatening rhetoric, saber rattling.
  6. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 28 March 2021 08: 19
    -5
    If it comes to a big war with the use of nuclear weapons, then Britain and Israel must be glazed completely so that nothing is left alive.
    It is not known what will happen next, whether humanity will be able to recover. But if he can, he will go into the future without these two big problems. And perhaps then this future will be more peaceful.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 29 March 2021 10: 10
      +1
      If it comes to a big war with the use of nuclear weapons, then Britain and Israel must be glazed completely so that nothing is left alive.
      Well, it’s not a pity for ordinary people ... to “glaze” the entire population of these two countries, what did you do wrong, simple hard workers, their children and old people, well, perhaps politicians and a local gang of oligarchs, with Russian “permanent residents” there well, but what to do with the rest in the contaminated areas ...?
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 29 March 2021 11: 55
        0
        Quote: Intruder
        Well, it’s not a pity for ordinary people ... to “glaze” the entire population of these two countries, what did you do wrong, simple hard workers, their children and old people, well, perhaps politicians and a local gang of oligarchs, with Russian “permanent residents” there well, but what to do with the rest in the contaminated areas ...?

        Politicians and oligarchs are flesh and blood of the population.
        The population chooses them, shows loyalty, generally supports their predatory foreign policy and is its beneficiary. The population carries a cultural code that will reproduce the elite of the same variety over and over again.
        Trying to re-educate the population after the elite has been liquidated is costly and ineffective, and who, in figs, needs them, only extra mouths.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 29 March 2021 11: 59
          0
          Population carries a cultural code
          What is cultural, the algorithm of culture ...!? Just like wave genetics and torsion fields ??? laughing wink And these same, such as: "combat" psychics in the 80s, in the service of the KGB of the USSR ??? fellow
  7. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 28 March 2021 11: 03
    +3
    The checkpoint at the Westminster metro station allows staff to enter the underground communications of the parliament directly from the subway - and no one hides it. The bunker is rumored to be located under the Thames floor.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 29 March 2021 08: 33
      -2
      A couple of underground explosions, tectonic shifts, will also flood with water
  8. Free wind
    Free wind 28 March 2021 12: 48
    -2
    Thank God he was smart enough not to start a war. Maybe there are now in our leadership who are against the war.
    1. iouris
      iouris 28 March 2021 13: 30
      -4
      Quote: Free Wind
      Maybe there are now in our leadership who are against the war.

      Are you a US citizen?
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 28 March 2021 13: 54
        +4
        I am against war. It seems to me that our ancestors would rip off the head of any speaker, "WE CAN REPEAT." What to repeat? 2O MILLION LOST? die repeaters.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 29 March 2021 11: 22
          +1
          Quote: Free Wind
          It seems to me that our ancestors would rip off the head of any speaker, "WE CAN REPEAT."

          Our ancestors sang about it. Or have you forgotten the third verse of one of the main combat marches of the Soviet Army?
          Let the enemies remember this -
          Do not threaten, but we say:
          We passed, half the world passed with you,
          If necessary, we repeat.
          © On the way. 1954 g.
  9. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 28 March 2021 19: 19
    +2
    Well, given the not ideal accuracy and reliability of the missiles of those years, it could have happened that the British government could have survived - because there were plenty of targets for the USSR's nuclear weapons, and the priority would be large European ports, industrial hubs, large military bases, the same goals there was enough in the USA. By the time of the Brezhnev era, of course, we had developed enough in terms of power, accuracy and quantity, but under Khrushchev it would have been like a map ...
  10. Alf
    Alf 28 March 2021 20: 27
    +2
    women's dining room)

    And what about British women, the physiology is not the same, a separate food for them?
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 28 March 2021 22: 26
      +2
      The canteen then functioned as a club, and in those politically incorrect times, they were divided according to gender.
      1. Alf
        Alf 28 March 2021 22: 33
        +2
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        The canteen then functioned as a club, and in those politically incorrect times, they were divided according to gender.

        What is a club without women? No more ... One word - British ...
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 28 March 2021 23: 09
          +1
          According to the orders of wartime, such a segregation was established. Otherwise, if the underground facility was isolated, there would have been a serious threat to the normal functioning of the "Santa Barbara" team.
          1. Alf
            Alf 28 March 2021 23: 10
            -2
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            According to the orders of wartime, such a segregation was established. Otherwise, if the underground facility was isolated, there would have been a serious threat to the normal functioning of the "Santa Barbara" team.

            So that's where so many RWDs come from in Britain. laughing
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 28 March 2021 23: 26
              0
              so many rear wheel drive
              By the way, how much? Besides Freddie Mercury and Elton John, somehow I don’t know. Or was it that you were out of luck upon arrival belay ?
              1. Alf
                Alf 28 March 2021 23: 28
                +1
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                so many rear wheel drive
                By the way, how much? Besides Freddie Mercury and Elton John, somehow I don’t know. Or was it that you were out of luck upon arrival belay ?

                No, I'm not going to leave my native Samara. But judging by THEIR demonstrations ..
              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 28 March 2021 23: 41
                +2
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                Besides Freddie Mercury and Elton John, somehow I don’t know.

                What Freddie? From eklmna,
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 29 March 2021 00: 26
                  +1
                  Yes, it’s like a ho-ho, if I’m a bit of a burner, I’m not even bothering about it. request ? And Freddie Who is Mercury, well Queen in general wassat
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 29 March 2021 00: 36
                    +2
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    And Freddie Who is Mercury, well Queen in general

                    So he is a homosexual!
                    1. Bolt cutter
                      Bolt cutter 29 March 2021 00: 41
                      +1
                      So he is a homosexual!
                      Moreover, rear-wheel drive am , Alpha does not give rest.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 29 March 2021 00: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Alpha does not give rest.

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTdd8QxifbY&list=PL8zDLpPffRVvIuep4fBKZrWqKbDMSB0zu&index=2
                      2. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 29 March 2021 00: 50
                        +2
                        Russia swiftly adopts British experience laughing
                      3. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 29 March 2021 00: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Russia adopts British experience

                        Oh nafig! I do not believe!
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 29 March 2021 05: 26
          0
          So that's where so many RWDs come from in Britain.
          Well, and your interests, dear !? winked bully
        3. Alf
          Alf 29 March 2021 19: 09
          0
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          According to the orders of wartime, such a segregation was established. Otherwise, if the underground facility was isolated, there would have been a serious threat to the normal functioning of the "Santa Barbara" team.

          So that's where so many RWDs come from in Britain. laughing

          In, two rear-wheel drive ones have already lit up ..
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 29 March 2021 11: 24
      +2
      Quote: Alf
      What is a club without women? No more ... One word - British ...

      So they had a club just for this - so that the men could get together without women and calmly puff, smoke and poison bikes about women.
  • Glagol1
    Glagol1 29 March 2021 12: 33
    -1
    Now the elite of the Anglo-Saxons have built up in New Zealand. They think to sit there. But VVP said UNDEFINITELY that there will be blows to the decision-making centers, and this town with billionaires in NZ falls into this understanding completely. So one rocket will definitely go there ... and heaven will turn into hell!
  • Ngauro
    Ngauro 30 March 2021 10: 03
    0
    The movie is English, very gloomy at the time of creation. Just about a nuclear strike on England. The threads are called .https: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8_ (% D1% 84% D0% B8% D0% BB% D1% 8C% D0 % BC, _1984)
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 30 March 2021 11: 59
      0
      And in the sense of gloom, I liked the relatively modern film adaptation of On the Last Shore. Well, our film "Letters of a Dead Man". Though it won't be like that wink