Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: "There is no Donbass and the people of Donbass, these concepts are imposed by Russia"

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Secretary of the National Security Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov said that the country needs to "pay more attention to the word" Donbass ", as it is imposed from Russia." According to the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, who spoke at a forum dedicated to electoral reform, there is not a single document in Ukrainian legislation that uses the term "Donbass".

Mr. Danilov:



Russia is trying to impose this on us. There is no "people of Donbass". They constantly tell us about the "people of Donbass", about "the choice of Donbass," that "Donbass cannot be brought to its knees." We hear it.

According to the NSDC secretary, you need to adhere to "clear definitions prescribed in the legislation of Ukraine":

There is no Donbass, but there are territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. We must abandon the narrative imposed from Moscow.

According to Danilov, it is extremely dangerous to use “substitute synonyms”.

Also, Mr. Danilov added that it is necessary to confront Russia "to do in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions what it is already doing in the Crimea."

I wonder what Russia is “doing in Crimea”? Builds roads and bridges, power plants, schools and kindergartens ... And Ukraine "resists" by cutting off water and electricity.

Ukraine itself reacted to Danilov's statement. Users note that officials live in isolation from objective reality:

Almost every country in the world has historically established names of territories, regardless of administrative and territorial ones. Russia has Kuzbass, Ukraine has Donbass, France has the Ardennes.

He said that there is no Donbass, and after that he wants the residents of Donbass to love the power of Kiev?
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    1. +30
      24 March 2021 17: 35
      I suspect that the concept of "intelligence" is not about Danilov. There is a human brain as an organ, but there is no use for it. Why think with your head when you can only eat into it.
      1. +22
        24 March 2021 17: 43
        Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: "There is no Donbass and the people of Donbass, these concepts are imposed by Russia"

        Quote: Canecat
        I suspect that the concept of "intelligence" is not about Danilov.


        Yes what ... "Great historian", "geographer" and "expert in demography" ...

        Others, in such a position on the outskirts, are not kept.
        1. nnm
          +15
          24 March 2021 17: 55
          Well, since it turns out on the battlefield only to get into the cauldrons and bombard the old people with children with mines, then what else can you do but not overcome the enemy by verbiage. I’ll think of renaming Russia into Muscovy, then Kiev into Kuiev (I hope I wrote the first letter correctly), then Ukraine into Rus-Ukraine, and now we have reached Donbass. Well, what can I say - definitely, immediately +15 percent to GDP, -70% to tariffs, +80 points to hydration and minus a million to IQ.
          Just a sample of modern Ukraine inhabited by the Sharikovs and Shvonders.
          1. +10
            24 March 2021 18: 06
            Quote: nnm
            Just a sample of modern Ukraine inhabited by the Sharikovs and Shvonders.

            No. No. No. Banderas, Millers, Shukhevychs and Konovaltsy ...
            1. +1
              25 March 2021 08: 50
              Secretary of the National Security Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov said

              Well, it would be stated by the sucking-posing head (Avakov's assistant) - Nastya Deeva, but this Svidomo seems to be a man with experience. Or his secretary is reduced to just spitting stupidity! No.
              1. +3
                25 March 2021 08: 52
                Quote: LIONnvrsk
                Well, it would be stated by the sucking-posing head (Avakov's assistant) - Nastya Deeva, but this Svidomo seems to be a man with experience.

                What do you want from a Svidomo-stricken thimble veterinarian? ? ?
          2. +4
            24 March 2021 18: 34
            How where, from life. What opponents, what life, such news. Alas, there are no others.

            Yes, with Kuev and Ilya Muromets, they somehow turned out pretty awful. You can fight for the relics of Ilyushina, here I agree with Insurgent)
        2. dSK
          +4
          24 March 2021 17: 56
          The Russians lived in Donbas when the States were not yet in the project (the United States was formed in 1776).
          Современный The "occupied" Donbass is a wedge driven into Russia almost to Rostov and there will be a "second Stalingrad" ...
          1. +11
            24 March 2021 18: 02
            Quote from dsk
            The Russians lived in Donbas when the States were not yet in the project (the United States was formed in 1776).

            My city was founded during the reign of Catherine the Great in 1778, and there are earlier settlements.
        3. +18
          24 March 2021 17: 59
          Well, then there is no Ukraine either. Lenin invented all this. And there is the divided and pitted people of Russia.
          1. +14
            24 March 2021 18: 16
            Quote: hirurg
            Well, then there is no Ukraine either.

            For the first time Putin uttered the term - quasi-state; there really is no Ukraine as a state.
            1. +4
              24 March 2021 23: 34
              good good good hi
              Ukrainian legislation does not have a single document that would use the term "Donbass".

              So in the Ukrainian legislation there is a lot of things, but this does not mean that it does not exist !!!
            2. 0
              25 March 2021 13: 37
              I think that nevertheless, that the term quasi-state has been pronounced before
          2. +2
            24 March 2021 18: 23
            Yes, we are fragmented and very strong. And, probably, we are hardly "brotherly peoples" now.
            Personally, I notice that not only the "enlightened West" pits us against Ukraine, but even the site often publishes materials that emphasize the stupidity and corruption of Ukrainian citizens. In vain it is. It’s in vain. You have to be more honorable. At least in front of himself. We are probably quite similar. The problem is disconnection. We have learned quite well how to break everything, while it is necessary to "build". We do only what we (I mean ordinary citizens of both states) are blessed by our top (financial and, of course, political).
            But I do not have anyone close to me in / in Ukraine, and some Ukrainian citizens have done really nasty things, so I do not suggest making up - that means we will continue to shit, do what we do best.
          3. +9
            24 March 2021 19: 03
            Quote: hirurg
            Well, then there is no Ukraine either. Lenin invented all this.

            So Lenin, if he invented, it was the Ukrainian SSR, and not this misunderstanding that fell off the Union, and imagines itself to be the Center of the Universe ...
            1. +3
              24 March 2021 19: 15
              So it is so, but they thought it over there.))) Perverted, you know, the very idea.))
              Lenin, you know, was demolished everywhere - the creator of theirs.
              And they replaced the idea with Banderovskaya.
          4. +10
            24 March 2021 21: 19
            Quote: hirurg
            Well, then there is no Ukraine either. Lenin invented all this. And there is the divided and pitted people of Russia.

            That's right, Ukraine is a phantom. There are only two artificial nations in the world - Americans and Ukrainians. The former live on stolen land, and the latter on donated land. Both nations are formed from the name of the territory - mainland America and the Russian outskirts.
        4. +12
          24 March 2021 18: 35
          Under the bandits of Dobroslavsky, at first he moved thimbles at the bus station .. Then, they gave him a store Donetsk Dawns, proto-moved to the mayor of Lugansk. And at first, the dude from education was just a veterinarian, he was with Gorbachev in the menagerie of the May Day Park. The director of which was .... Efremov.! Here's a guy's biography!
          1. +10
            24 March 2021 18: 48
            Quote: 113262
            Under the bandits of Dobroslavsky, at first he moved thimbles at the bus station .. Then, they gave him a store Donetsk Dawns, proto-moved to the mayor of Lugansk. And at first, the dude from education was just a veterinarian, he was with Gorbachev in the menagerie of the May Day Park. The director of which was .... Efremov.! Here's a guy's biography!

            Glorious biography Yes The product of Gorbachev's redrawing and redistribution of the 90s ...

            Garnish flap Yes , pro ...
        5. 0
          25 March 2021 09: 28
          Quote: Insurgent
          Others, in such a position on the outskirts, are not kept.

          everything is modeled on the owners - biden and psaki rolled into one laughing
      2. +5
        24 March 2021 17: 55
        This ridiculous "Velikoukr" with the Russian surname Danilov! laughing "No Donbass" ... Like, if you stick your head in the sand, then there is nothing in the world! laughing
        Donbass Yes and soon Svidomity-Bandera will feel it with their own skin! smile
      3. +2
        24 March 2021 19: 20
        NSDC Secretary of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov: "There is no Donbass and the people of Donbass, these concepts are imposed by Russia"

        Lesha, Danilov, do you remember the cartoon winked
      4. +2
        24 March 2021 20: 07
        ih bin ukrainishe Gestapo.
      5. 0
        25 March 2021 06: 09
        Where to wear a hat? There is no way without a head
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      7. +1
        25 March 2021 11: 48
        Well, if you look like this, then there is no historically and unified Ukrainian people on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR!

        How Russians were en masse recorded as "Ukrainians", for example, with the active creation of "fraternal peoples".

        As attributed to the territory for "dilution of the proletariat" of the rural population, gave the same Donbass, by the way ... And not only him!
        Does this Danilov want a historical conversation with Russia "by concepts"? They will lose this argument ...
        1. +1
          25 March 2021 12: 58
          This is the case when they do not want to hear any answer.
          They say this, strictly speaking, for "domestic consumption".
        2. +3
          25 March 2021 13: 59
          I, too, proudly wrote Ukrainian in my first passport ... I am 50%, the rest is the same as in Bulgakov ... and at 14 I felt ashamed of being Ukrainian, Odessa
      8. 0
        25 March 2021 12: 14
        Yes, I completely agree with you: the face of this homo erectus is not "disfigured" by the intellect.
    2. +19
      24 March 2021 17: 36
      Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: "There is no Donbass and the people of Donbass, these concepts are imposed by Russia"

      Hmm? There is no Ukraine and the people of Ukraine. There is a territory artificially woven by the Union from parts of different states, where millions of hostages of a terrible geopolitical experiment are being held.
    3. +8
      24 March 2021 17: 37
      Well .. there is no such Ukraine and the people of Ukraine. There is the territory of Ukraine. It's time to resist Independence "to create in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions the horror that she creates." And quickly return her to the bosom of the empire, the Russian empire wink laughing
    4. -1
      24 March 2021 17: 38
      Late. Everything has already been done.
    5. +10
      24 March 2021 17: 39
      There is no Ukraine and the people of Ukraine. There is Little Russia and Little Russians. laughing How do you like that secretary Danilov?
      1. -1
        25 March 2021 14: 31
        Only Little Russia is a very specific territory, which does not coincide in any way with the territory of modern Ukraine.
        1. -1
          25 March 2021 14: 55
          Nothing. The Little Russians and the entire Soviet people annexed these territories as a result of World War II to Little Russia... And due to a misunderstanding they called it the Ukrainian SSR. What does Ukraine have to do with it? what Something like that. bully
    6. +8
      24 March 2021 17: 44
      There is no Donbass and the people of Donbass

      And who is there? Katsapi and moskali? What should millions of people do now, who do not want to live with the Banderites in the same country?
      "Damn, shoot them with atomic weapons" Tymoshenko Yu.V.
    7. +3
      24 March 2021 17: 47
      Learn history, woodpecker! !! fool This uk-royna was not, invented, and the part of Russia created on the Russian lands suddenly became an “independent uk-roinoy!” These are our lands, and we are OBLIGED to return them to Russia! !!
      1. -7
        24 March 2021 22: 57
        Quote: Thrifty
        the part of Russia created on the Russian lands suddenly became an "independent uk-roinoy"!

        And not only on Russian lands ...
        These are our lands, and we are OBLIGED to return them to Russia! !!

        Who are we? I personally do not owe anything to anyone. And why 30 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union and 7 years of the Maidan? You need you and return
        woodpecker! !! fool
    8. +3
      24 March 2021 17: 48
      Ugh damn it, where do you get such news?
      No us, no, no boilers, nothing but a mighty independent Ukraine ...
      Tryndets clearly began to go off scale ...
      1. +1
        24 March 2021 18: 08
        Quote: Ruslan Sulima
        Ugh damn it, where do you get such news?

        How where, from life. What opponents, what life, such news. Alas, there are no others.
        1. -1
          24 March 2021 18: 17

          How where, from life. What opponents, what life, such news. Alas, there are no others.

          How did Masha from the cartoon talk with the bear?
          Ohokhyushki mine (I am not responsible for the word for word, but I know that Masha, including from Donbass, will not do that yet)
    9. +3
      24 March 2021 17: 49
      And there are no people of Ukraine. The people of the Okrug have been there, and this is not rhetoric, it is a historical fact.
      1. -6
        24 March 2021 23: 02
        Quote: Welldone
        And there are no people of Ukraine. The people of the Outskirts have been.

        Who did Gogol and Shevchenko write about then?
        1. +1
          24 March 2021 23: 25
          about Little Russians
          1. -6
            25 March 2021 00: 07
            Quote: hydroy
            about Little Russians

            It's strange, but I came across the word Ukrainian in the text, but I didn't read anything about Little Russians ...
        2. 0
          25 March 2021 02: 03
          Google it deeper.
    10. +1
      24 March 2021 18: 00
      By the way, this Danilov should have changed his surname, as it is fashionable for Banderas now, let it be Danylko, enough to shame grandfathers ...
    11. 0
      24 March 2021 18: 00
      Does anyone believe in the possibility of a peaceful solution to this conflict? They benefit from this eternal war.
      1. -5
        24 March 2021 23: 05
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        Does anyone believe in the possibility of a peaceful solution to this conflict?

        If there is a political will of the military-political leadership of Ukraine at the end of the conflict, it will be resolved ...
        They benefit from this eternal war.

        They also talked about the war in Chechnya ...
        1. 0
          25 March 2021 08: 11
          The next question: do you believe that there can be a political will of the Ukrainian leadership, taking into account how much money is being made in this war? Well, as for the analogies with Chechnya, well, Putin appeared in Russia, in Ukraine this is not possible in principle.
    12. +4
      24 March 2021 18: 01
      By the way, this is a new training manual, about a month ago they perked up with the fact that "there are no people of Donbass or Crimea." laughing
      The only problem is that the people of Ukraine did not exist for the same reason. And with the people, too, everything is simple - well, this is Russian land, Russian ...
    13. +4
      24 March 2021 18: 03
      There is a certain substitution of concepts. In the Soviet school, at the lessons of economic geography, we were taught that Donbass is an economic concept, namely, an abbreviated word from "Donetsk coal basin". Which included the territories of Donetsk and Voroshilovgrad (Lugansk) regions of the Ukrainian SSR and the Rostov region of the RSFSR.
      Something like this
      1. +12
        24 March 2021 18: 16
        Quote: zharyoff
        There is a certain substitution of concepts. In the Soviet school, at the lessons of economic geography, we were taught that Donbass is an economic concept, namely, an abbreviated word from "Donetsk coal basin". Which included the territories of Donetsk and Voroshilovgrad (Lugansk) regions of the Ukrainian SSR and the Rostov region of the RSFSR.
        Something like this








      2. -5
        24 March 2021 23: 11
        Quote: zharyoff
        In the Soviet school, at the lessons of economic geography, we were taught that Donbass is an economic concept, namely, an abbreviated word from "Donetsk coal basin". Which included the territories of Donetsk and Voroshilovgrad (Lugansk) regions of the Ukrainian SSR and the Rostov region of the RSFSR.

        They spoke correctly. Like Vysotsky: "..... then I read the right books" .....
        They just didn't say that the communist comrades handed Novorossiya to Ukraine in order to artificially increase the number of proletarians in Ukraine, there was less confidence in the peasants, and the Tambov peasants were a vivid example of that ...
    14. +2
      24 March 2021 18: 06
      "There is no Donbass and the people of Donbass, these concepts are imposed by Russia"
      Fine. In this case, there is no Ukraine and no people of Ukraine, these concepts will be imposed on us by Europe and the United States.
    15. +6
      24 March 2021 18: 07

      Phantom pains
    16. +4
      24 March 2021 18: 14
      How do they do it? Zombie them or what? Both Klimkin and Danilov are rich Ukrainian people, intellect is right on your face.
    17. +7
      24 March 2021 18: 21
      It's funny. The Donetsk coal basin is and will be, as well as the people living there, but with Ukraine everything is not so unambiguous - today it exists, tomorrow it will not.
    18. UVB
      +10
      24 March 2021 18: 33
      I have already written about this type of personality before, let me repeat myself. He began his career as a veterinary assistant at the Luhansk Zoo. With the beginning of perestroika, he quickly mastered the "specialty" of a thimble-maker, was a member of one of the most powerful organized crime groups in Lugansk. In 94, he became the mayor of Lugansk, the main achievement in this post was the construction of a monument to T.G. Shevchenko in the center of Lugansk on the Heroes of the Great Patriotic War Square!
    19. +3
      24 March 2021 18: 46
      There is no such territory - Ukraine! This name was invented with a hangover by the Bolsheviks on the basis of the nationality invented by the Austrians! laughing
    20. +6
      24 March 2021 19: 10
      There is no Ukraine, there is Little Russia
      1. +3
        24 March 2021 19: 13
        Little Russia is Little Russia, and there was also the Outskirts, but Ukraine was invented ...
        1. Cat
          +3
          25 March 2021 09: 27
          Invented Ukrainians as a nation. And Ukraine is the name of the historical area of ​​the post-Mongol period, the territory of the Kiev, Poltava and Cherkasy regions. The same toponym as, for example, Siberia or Kuban.
          And earlier it was called simply Rus, being the southern part of this concept.
    21. +6
      24 March 2021 19: 12
      Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: "There is no Donbass and the people of Donbass, these concepts are imposed by Russia"


      Come, they will explain to you who is and who is not ...
    22. +1
      24 March 2021 19: 20
      you can also say that there are no ukrointsev. they were created when they created the republic
    23. +3
      24 March 2021 19: 23
      There is not any Ukro-ina, as there is no Ukrainian language, there are no ancient ukrov, etc.
      All this was invented by enemies trying to divide one great people into several controlled entities and rule over them.
    24. +2
      24 March 2021 19: 46
      Danilov himself is a misunderstanding that should not exist.
    25. -3
      24 March 2021 21: 14
      So the question is for you. Write correctly - Donbass. Short for Donetsk Basin. Or Kuzbass is better in something. And then you sit and think)))
      1. -3
        24 March 2021 21: 15
        But only Ukraine, so on the arena all the same)))
        1. -5
          24 March 2021 21: 16
          For your information. Donbass (1 letter C) - Donetsk Basin))
          1. +4
            25 March 2021 03: 25
            Well, this is you your Kiev at least in kuev at least something else to rename, while it turns out, and Donbass is Donbass! Pool in Russian with two letters "s"!
    26. +1
      24 March 2021 22: 06
      And who is he in general, what decides for others who is who? A lackey who stinks only in place. And what he will be told.
    27. +2
      25 March 2021 00: 37
      There is no Donbass in Ukraine, and it is not necessary. And it shouldn't be. For good reason, there generally should not be the South-East, from Kharkov to Odessa. And let the zapadentsy-galitsai jump in pans as much as they want in a linguistically and racially pure nenya, who has not died yet, but is actively jumping in this direction.
    28. 0
      25 March 2021 03: 01
      It's time to close the entire Outskirts project.
    29. 0
      25 March 2021 03: 35
      Tell me who is your friend .......!? Psaki can be proud!
    30. 0
      25 March 2021 05: 51
      They all have head problems there.
    31. -1
      25 March 2021 06: 03
      It is from their fear of being removed from the imperious trough such pearls pop out. Direct order is similar, who did not fart that Moskal. They understand that they are talking about nonsense, but they must bear it or they will be taken out. Ritual mantras, like ours with brotherly peoples and others.
    32. +1
      25 March 2021 07: 31
      Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: "There is no Donbass and the people of Donbass, these concepts are imposed by Russia"
      There is no Ukraine, there is Little Russia
    33. +1
      25 March 2021 09: 18
      I would like to state in response that:
      1. There is no state of Ukraine, but there is a nationalist dictatorship of functionaries who seized power, who are under the control and management of foreign states, whose goal is to war with Russia to the last Ukrainian in order to try to inflict the maximum possible military and material damage on Russia!
      2. There is no NSDC - there is only a self-proclaimed group of persons who seized the right to give instructions and orders after the coup d'état in 2014, unleashing a bloody civil war against their own citizens.
      3. There is no Secretary of the National Security Council Danilov, tk. not a decommunized person with a Russian surname in the posts of an independent state, who has ancestors and relatives in Russia, which means that a spy cannot hold any government posts in 404.
      4. There is no legislation of Ukraine, but there is a malicious intentional activity of a group of persons in a preliminary conspiracy to plunder the former territories of the former state of Ukraine. Under what are announced under the name of Laws - acts - justifying such plunder, also aimed at enrichment at the expense of the impoverishment of citizens.
      PYS: I am not making analogies with Russia now, many things are also not in order here, but this is a commentary on the statement of a certain Danilov about the region of Russia! Therefore, comment by type: But in Russia it is not necessary.
    34. +1
      25 March 2021 09: 51
      This is information from the authorities for those who still believe in the united people of Ukraine.
    35. 0
      25 March 2021 09: 57
      Consequently, he canceled the concept of Donetsk coal basin. I hesitate to ask, but did he also cancel coal? What dull and dirty foam the maydaun raised.
    36. +1
      25 March 2021 10: 47
      There is no Ukraine, but there are territories of Russia from Odessa, Kherson, Zaporozhye, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov to Kiev and the Russian people! We carefully read and study history, so that we are not turned into hog-like slaves. We must abandon the narrative imposed by the lamerica and their henchmen.
      We are Russians! God with us!
    37. 0
      25 March 2021 11: 04
      Well, Ukrainization is being systematically implanted there with fire and sword. If they survive, in a generation there will be no more ardent anti-Russians.
    38. 0
      25 March 2021 11: 49
      Pts. well, the fewer illusions Donbass and Russia have, the better.
    39. 0
      25 March 2021 13: 26
      Well, the fact is that the people of Donbass do not exist, just as there are no Ukrainians or Russians, but there are Slavs inhabiting these territories. And until it reaches the Slavs themselves that they are deliberately separated by pseudonations, it may be that something will begin to change. But there are no prerequisites for this. The unification of the Slavic world is a nightmare of the Anglo-Jewish world. Hence the import of migrants and the implantation of alien ideologies, and so on.
    40. 0
      25 March 2021 15: 00
      there is also no independent Ukraine, but American podzhopniki.
    41. -1
      25 March 2021 20: 09
      "" There is no Donbass and the people of Donbass, these concepts are imposed by Russia ""
      But Putin doesn't think so!
    42. +2
      26 March 2021 01: 34
      No n what Ukraine! Its name is Bendera, Ukraine! And this territory is called Kievan Rus! Russian land !
    43. +1
      26 March 2021 14: 40
      There is no such state "Ukraine", there is Little Russia and the outskirts of Russia in the west.
    44. +5
      29 March 2021 01: 10
      There is no "people of Donbass". They constantly tell us about the "people of Donbass", about "the choice of Donbass," that "Donbass cannot be brought to its knees."

      Danilov ...

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