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A barrel of oil or a liter of gasoline - what worries the fuel union

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We were warned



At the beginning of the week, the country's Independent Fuel Union (NTS) reported on the possibility of a significant increase in gasoline prices in Russia. And in the near future. And a lot at once. The figure is called (either maximum, or approximate) of 14 percent.

NTS, on whose website an analyst two years ago was hanging, gave a very extraordinary explanation of the reasons for its fears. So, it is not even about the rise in oil prices or some unregulated tariffs, but about the jump in the indices of some mysterious export alternative.

It is easy to understand what this means - it is much more profitable to export even crude oil abroad than to process and sell it inside the country. The industry simply has to compensate for losses in refining and complex Russian logistics by raising prices for filling stations.

Those same indices in the NTS were hardly the first time they were called in the general press as it is accepted in exchange slang - netbacks, the growth of which "stimulates export and discourages domestic supplies."
It is immediately felt that modern effective managers have come to the NTS, who do not care much about the problems of ordinary buyers.

And it doesn't matter that people don't care about some kind of netbacks, it is more important to demonstrate their professionalism at the top, where they are now in a hurry deciding how to support the oil industry. Readers, as well as authors, should finally realize that this is the industry that appears to have been hit hardest by the pandemic.

And also from quarantines and other incentives to reduce business activity, and as a result - from falling demand for gasoline. Hence, there is a simple conclusion - the executive branch must, and simply must, once again support the oil workers and the kings of gas stations. Otherwise, add another 14 percent to the price tags at gas stations and not a percent less.

The country's independent fuel union so directly asked the Russian government to intervene in this situation and take the necessary measures. On behalf of business (and how could it be otherwise), NTS proposes to reduce excise taxes on gasoline and diesel, cancel the damper and increase the standards on the stock exchange.

We were warned


Such forecasts, or, more precisely, the NTS alarms that were not voiced at the time, are very reminiscent of what happens to flowers on the eve of March 8, or to flour and eggs on the eve of Holy Easter. But it was only there that usually everything turned into nothing - new players came, discovered new sources, and prices did not jump much.

This does not work with gasoline - there are no new sources or new players. And the most that the gasoline market can please us is stability for two to three months. However, this stability is always very relative - a sluggish growth of indicators on electronic displays with prices takes place.

And it is regularly interspersed with price surges, and certainly upward. That is seasonal - before sowing, harvesting, or on the eve of the heating season. Either opportunistic - under the growth or decline of oil prices: both in Russia will certainly respond to an increase in the cost of gasoline, and gas, and diesel fuel.


It is not so much the tough regulatory measures that FAS, the antimonopoly service, usually succeeded in under Artemyev, is saving from large-scale gasoline crises. Now it has been replaced by the Russian Audit Chamber and the Independent Fuel Union in terms of activity.

However, it is not they who really help the market, and not even the competition, which we have had for a long time only for appearance. It helps the fact that everything (what can and cannot) cannot be exported over the hill, due to the lack of appropriate export capacities.

The pipe, as they say, is too small. And Gazprom is not just making a shamelessly unambiguous choice in favor of the second Nord Stream, and not the general gasification of Russian subsidized regions. And in this sense, oil and gas workers do not differ in absolutely nothing.

Suffice it to recall how on the eve of the default and in the midst of it, Russian oil flowed abroad for a penny. And no one was hooked in any way. The Accounts Chamber mentioned above, almost in vain, started much later, when it was headed by the short-term prime minister of 1999 and the failed "successor" Sergei Stepashin.

We didn't expect


Over the past three and a half months, gasoline prices have risen by almost 20 percent in a number of regions, even without NTS warnings. In Moscow and the Moscow region, the increase is not so strong: from 12 to 15 percent. Only because the price tag was already off scale.


It's March, and the same seasonal factor is about to come into force, which was usually smoothed out by compulsory sales on the stock exchange. Now, petrol excise taxes that have been raised by 1 percent more recently, that is, from January 4, can add to the negative.

The damping surcharges to the refundable excise duty provided for gasoline, which we did not mention a little higher, are already working badly. The result is a new turn in favor of exports.

Judging by the appeal to the government, the NTS is even ready to suggest something - for example, an uncomplicated reduction in the excise tax on gasoline and diesel fuel of the fifth ecological class. This was already done in 2018, and thus temporarily stimulated supplies to the domestic market.

The NTS proposes to abandon the damper at all, since those fluctuations in the external market, which it was supposed to compensate, have not been present for more than six months.

But where is the guarantee that they will not be in the future?

But from the "bad" damper there were, in fact, quite good receipts to the treasury, although the budget could well have been replenished simply by rising prices. But the obligatory supply of fuel to the exchange for sale within the country, we do not argue, must be supported.

But will the preservation of tax incentives proposed by the experts of the NTS work as it should for companies that strictly follow the norms of compulsory deliveries?

President of the NTS Pavel Bazhenov has no doubts that benefits and norms seem to balance each other:

“On the one hand, a fiscal incentive is created for the growth of production volumes, on the other hand, the volumes are not exported, but go to the domestic market”.

Meanwhile, the gap in wholesale and retail prices for fuel within the country is growing every year. But this does not become an incentive to engage in retail without the exchange.

At real gas stations with their specific "kings" - completely different rules. And the shortage of fuel, which is not excluded under any price hikes and sometimes frightens more terrible than these prices themselves, is invariably to their advantage.
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  1. WHAT IS
    WHAT IS 26 March 2021 15: 05
    +19
    the country's Independent Fuel Union (NTS) reported on the possibility of a significant increase in gasoline prices in Russia. And in the near future. And a lot at once.

    They weren't surprised, mlyn. Not once.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 26 March 2021 15: 14
      +7
      Should they have surprised? I'm not talking about indignation, otherwise they will immediately be attributed to the supporters of the anal and the agents of the State Department.
      1. Artyom Karagodin
        Artyom Karagodin 26 March 2021 15: 20
        +15
        Andrey from Chelyabinsk was right when he wrote about the need to declare all extracted natural resources in the country the property of the state. In such conditions, it is the state that controls the prices for gasoline within the country. It is worth lowering fuel prices even by 10%, this would already have an effect on the country's economy. And so - we have what we have. Alas.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 26 March 2021 15: 25
          +14
          Quote: Artyom Karagodin
          In such conditions, it is the state that controls the prices for gasoline within the country. It is worth lowering fuel prices even by 10%, this would already have an effect on the country's economy. And so - we have what we have. Alas.

          Definitely right. But we do not have a state but an LLC ..
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 26 March 2021 15: 52
            +8
            But we do not have a state but an LLC

            It’s not even that .. We have a colonial administration’s administration for the export of natural resources. It is also the liquidation commission of Russia and its population.
          2. Artyom Karagodin
            Artyom Karagodin 26 March 2021 16: 19
            +1
            Quote: Svarog
            Definitely right. But we do not have a state but an LLC ..

            Alas...
          3. lis-ik
            lis-ik 27 March 2021 11: 24
            +3
            Quote: Svarog
            Definitely right. But we do not have a state but an LLC.

            Rather, an organized criminal group. And Putin has repeatedly stated that there will be no revision of privatization.
        2. WHAT IS
          WHAT IS 26 March 2021 15: 25
          +12
          They have been talking about this for a long time, but every time the government and the Duma turn up any attempts to nationalize at least the oil and gas sector of the economy. Not everyone's dreams should come true, as it turns out.
        3. paul3390
          paul3390 26 March 2021 16: 07
          +13
          on the need to declare all extracted natural resources in the country as state property

          Not right. Because then the intermediaries will start to wind up and are sold. The bourgeois will never miss the opportunity to rip off the people. And after gasoline - everything else will follow, evon - what's going on with the grub! And this is despite the declared unprecedented harvests ..

          No people, we have only one option - to return Soviet power. In all its scope. And we must hurry - otherwise there will be nowhere to return. And there is no one. The system needs to be changed, and not to do cosmetic painting of a new one ..
          1. Artyom Karagodin
            Artyom Karagodin 26 March 2021 16: 37
            +2
            And who said that retail sales should be given to private traders? Let the state sell.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 26 March 2021 18: 10
              +6
              Quote: Artyom Karagodin
              Let the state sell.

              The state does not need to deal with this nonsense. It is enough to limit the markup as a percentage of the purchase price.
              Now we have a trade margin for almost all goods several times higher than the manufacturer's selling price.
              PS Right now most of all is angry about the lack of reaction of the Federal Antimonopoly Service to the lawlessness of propane prices. From scratch, the price was raised by 30-40%.
              1. Alexander Seklitsky
                Alexander Seklitsky 26 March 2021 18: 29
                +2
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                PS Right now most of all is angry about the lack of reaction of the Federal Antimonopoly Service to the lawlessness of propane prices. From scratch, the price was raised by 30-40%.

                with this in general it is not understandable. for several months for 8-10 rubles. It was 19 50, now almost 28 rubles, and the neighbors have 30 90
              2. Overlock
                Overlock 26 March 2021 18: 46
                +20
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                It is enough to limit the markup as a percentage of the purchase price.

                Enough:
                1.to moderate the government's appetite for taxation
                2.reduce the appetite for world hegemony
                3. to work with the antimonopoly committee
        4. Flooding
          Flooding 26 March 2021 16: 29
          +8
          Quote: Artyom Karagodin
          Andrey from Chelyabinsk was right when he wrote about the need to declare all extracted natural resources in the country the property of the state.

          According to common reasoning, it should not be otherwise. The country is not a feud, but the property of the entire people.
          And the problem just stems from the fact that the national property has become the subject of gaining profits. And not a guarantee of the country's prosperity.
          1. Artyom Karagodin
            Artyom Karagodin 26 March 2021 16: 35
            +7
            Wanted, if not all, then many, in the "bright capitalist future." When they found out for whom exactly it was light, it was already too late. Some of the dissidents, more or less honest, once wrote something like "Soviet propaganda lied to people about the situation inside the country, but, as it turned out, was 100% right about the characteristics given to capitalist countries."

            Many will probably disagree about the first part of what has been said, but the dissident's opinion is given here precisely because of the second part.
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 26 March 2021 18: 44
            +22
            Quote: Flood
            The country is not a feud, but the property of the entire people.

            Once upon a time
        5. Overlock
          Overlock 26 March 2021 18: 43
          +20
          Quote: Artyom Karagodin
          on the need to declare all extracted natural resources in the country as the property of the state. In such conditions, it is the state that controls the prices for gasoline within the country.

          The price of gasoline is determined by Sechin and Rosneft, which are state-owned. The rest of the companies are just happy and equal their price tags to Sechin. Do you think the war in Syria and the role in world domination are worthless?
          1. Aag
            Aag 29 March 2021 07: 31
            0
            Quote: Overlock
            Quote: Artyom Karagodin
            on the need to declare all extracted natural resources in the country as the property of the state. In such conditions, it is the state that controls the prices for gasoline within the country.

            The price of gasoline is determined by Sechin and Rosneft, which are state-owned. The rest of the companies are just happy and equal their price tags to Sechin. Do you think the war in Syria and the role in world domination are worthless?

            Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the composition of the board of directors of ROSneft? I think some will be surprised.
      2. nnm
        nnm 26 March 2021 15: 51
        +15
        I read the article. I almost shed a tear about how cool these NTS are. Now let's get back to reality. I have sufficient experience in the field of inspections of both global oil and gas companies and large oil traders. But not the point, let's move on to the facts:
        1. NTS is just a cartel with one goal - to maximize the profits of its member companies. Why? It's simple:
        The rise in prices is not caused by excise taxes, but by completely different reasons:
        1.1 from the refinery to the gas station there are, on average, 12-16 "gaskets". What for ? And then, to sit on a simplified taxation system and minimize taxes. Most of these companies are members of the NTS;
        1.2 all these companies, members of the NTS, are doing their best to disrupt the standards for the mandatory sale of petroleum products on the domestic market through the electronic trading system. Currently, no more than 7-10% of products are sold in this way. Why? Because it is more profitable to export oil abroad. For dollars. Well, or to Belarus with VAT refund.
        In fact, if it were political will, it would not be difficult to reduce the price of gasoline by at least 30 percent. But why...
  2. Svarog
    Svarog 26 March 2021 15: 11
    +7
    This year we are expecting serious inflation and, as a result, even greater impoverishment. The salary is not growing, and prices for everything have jumped and will rise even more. It's sad. So they came again in the 90s .. but in the 90s there was a feeling of "we will break through", and now there is "hopelessness" .. The "wise" tsar got entangled in multiple moves ..
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 26 March 2021 15: 18
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      but in the 90s there was a feeling of "break through"

      Not. In the 90s, there was a feeling that a fur animal had come. The feeling that we will "break through" may have been with anyone, but not with the people.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 26 March 2021 15: 27
        -1
        I’ll say for myself about the fur-bearing animal, they felt that way in the middle of 98, when the energy sector stopped paying wages and began to open shops at enterprises where they sold goods according to the list. And before that, there was still nothing. Four times a month they gave money, salary, advance payment, power bonus and some kind of insurance.
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 26 March 2021 15: 28
        +11
        Quote: Lesovik
        Not. In the 90s, there was a feeling that a fur animal had come. The feeling that we will "break through" may have been with anyone, but not with the people.

        In the 90s, salary growth did not catch up with inflation a little, but it grew constantly. Now the salary is at the level of seven years ago, although every year everything rises in price. In the 90s, offices were constantly opening .. Now they are just closing .. In the 90s there was a stormy political life .. albeit a crooked, naive .. but there was life .. now "tales from the crypt" do not let anyone near politics to a cannon shot. . etc..
        1. Woodman
          Woodman 26 March 2021 15: 35
          -2
          Quote: Svarog
          In the 90s, wages grew, did not catch up with inflation a little, but grew

          Yeah. She grew up. Only they gave it out two months later for the third, and even then not every time. In stores, on account of future salaries and pensions, if the authorities agreed, it was possible to take food. Offices were opening, yes. All sorts of MMMy who collect pennies from the people and in a week dissolve as it was. Political life, you say ... Yes, I remember how every other day in the Duma the deputies arranged brawls. As it is now in the Rada. Shame.
          Although it was more fun in the capitals, I don’t know. In the province was ... It was bad in the province.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 26 March 2021 15: 45
            +5
            Quote: Lesovik
            Yeah. She grew up. Only they gave it out two months later for the third, and then not every time.

            Now the same is true in many enterprises .. among private traders especially ..
            In stores, on account of future salaries and pensions, if the management agreed, it was possible to take food

            And now no one will allow you to do this .. now you will go and borrow money .. a micro loan .. which will turn into a macro headache ..
            All sorts of MM, we who collect pennies from the people and after a week dissolve as it was not

            The state has replaced them now .. and imposed taxes and fines in such a way that the pennies dissolve in the same way .. as they never existed .. wassat SP open .. as soon as you have opened, you already owe money to the state .. and if you haven't earned anything, you owe a lot .. 40 a year .. well, why not MMM?
            Political life, you say ... Yes, I remember how every other day in the Duma the deputies arranged brawls. As it is now in the Rada. Shame.

            Well, yes ... now salaries of 400 tons ... and one by one they are stamping anti-national laws on public money .. It's better to beat each other in the face ..
            In the province was ... It was bad in the province.

            It was bad, but at least the province was .. and now more than half of the villages and villages have disappeared .. here they are for 30 years .. and there is no need for war .. "their" will be destroyed
            1. Woodman
              Woodman 26 March 2021 16: 02
              -1
              Quote: Svarog
              Now the same is true in many enterprises .. among private traders especially ..

              Absolutely not. Firstly, on a few. Secondly, people go to courts and receive payments. My classmate had a similar situation two years ago. After the trial, the money came quickly.
              Quote: Svarog
              The state has replaced them now .. and so imposed taxes and fines

              Taxes and fines do not go into the pockets of the bandits, but at the very least work for social services. And as a simple hard worker, I paid 13% and still pay. And fines - do not violate and there will be no fines. So there is a difference.

              Quote: Svarog
              Well, yes ... now the salary of 400 tons ... and one by one anti-national laws are being stamped with public money ..

              In the 90s, was the ratio of a deputy's salary to a hard worker different? Or maybe the laws were correct?
              Quote: Svarog
              It was bad, but at least there was a province ... and now more than half of the villages and villages have disappeared ..

              Was. And she disappeared. And why? Because all the youth from the villages dumped into the cities. And it was the 90s that marked the beginning of the mass migration of young people from villages to cities. There remained their not old parents, who in 30 years turned into retirees. That's the whole secret. And few people wanted to return. For this, it is necessary to create conditions so that life in the countryside would be easier and wages would be higher than in the city. Not just jobs. It is possible, probably. But the result is likely not urban-to-rural migration, but urban riots.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 26 March 2021 16: 09
                +6
                Taxes and fines do not go into the pockets of the bandits, but at the very least work for social services. And as a simple hard worker, I paid 13% and still pay. And fines - do not violate and there will be no fines. So there is a difference.

                The bandits of the 90s now rule the country .. And there is no difference for a person, whether the bandit is robbing him or the state. Or do you think when the state is more pleasant? With a smile and a slogan especially .. Gazprom dreams come true .. National damn heritage ..
                To do this, it is necessary to create conditions so that life in the countryside would be easier, and wages are higher than in the city.

                Here I agree with you. The state must create conditions.
                And it creates and we see the result .. the population is rapidly declining ..
                1. Woodman
                  Woodman 26 March 2021 16: 16
                  -9
                  Quote: Svarog
                  And there is no difference for a person, whether the bandit is robbing him or the state.

                  Those. Do you, in principle, think that there is no need to pay taxes? And kindergartens, schools, hospitals will it all appear and educators, teachers, doctors, will they work for thanks? Should the army also defend you by itself? And the soldiers should feed on the holy spirit? And who has saved up money for what? Do you see any contradictions in your position?
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 26 March 2021 16: 26
                    +10
                    Quote: Lesovik
                    Those. Do you, in principle, think that there is no need to pay taxes? And kindergartens, schools, hospitals, it will all appear and educators, teachers, doctors, will they work for thanks?

                    No, I believe that you need to pay taxes that are understandable and logical .. Well, for example .. why should I pay transport tax if I buy gasoline, where this tax already sits .. or why should I pay real estate tax if I bought this apartment and collecting money for it paid taxes from them .. or why should I pay tax on land .. I do not understand why I have to pay taxes .. when nothing comes of it? Explain? So I have been working for 26 years .. since 17 .. and I pay taxes .. But what exactly did the state give me? Only school education .. For everything else, I pay myself .. and then the retirement age was pushed .. until which I will not live ..
                    So why am I paying taxes?
                  2. Virus-free crown
                    Virus-free crown 26 March 2021 16: 31
                    +8
                    Quote: Lesovik
                    Quote: Svarog
                    And there is no difference for a person, whether the bandit is robbing him or the state.

                    Those. Do you, in principle, think that there is no need to pay taxes? And kindergartens, schools, hospitals will it all appear and educators, teachers, doctors, will they work for thanks? Should the army also defend you by itself? And the soldiers should feed on the holy spirit? And who has saved up money for what? Do you see any contradictions in your position?

                    I personally think that it is NECESSARY to pay taxes !!! good
                    Only, as a taxpayer, I should KNOW what they are spent on ... AND WHY ?! the deputy chief of the regional traffic police at his neighboring dacha has one heated fountain with exotic fish costs more than my whole dacha taken together ?! am
                  3. Overlock
                    Overlock 26 March 2021 19: 00
                    +24
                    Quote: Lesovik
                    Those. do you, in principle, think that taxes should not be paid?

                    Everybody has to pay taxes! But here are doubts about the payment of taxes of such citizens
            2. Alexander Seklitsky
              Alexander Seklitsky 26 March 2021 18: 49
              +1
              Quote: Svarog
              It was bad, but at least there was a province ... and now more than half of the villages and villages have disappeared ..

              that's really not necessary to lie. I still remember how we lived. Our neighbors, pensioners, bought milk and we used this money to buy bread. Of course, we did not starve, but we lived on a subsistence economy, as in ancient times. There was no living money. Fuel was exchanged for food from passing ships. Fortunately, there were no glonas All remote villages died with the collapse of the union, because their farms were no longer subsidized.
              1. Aag
                Aag 29 March 2021 07: 51
                0
                Quote: Alexander Seklitsky
                Quote: Svarog
                It was bad, but at least there was a province ... and now more than half of the villages and villages have disappeared ..

                that's really not necessary to lie. I still remember how we lived. Our neighbors, pensioners, bought milk and we used this money to buy bread. Of course, we did not starve, but we lived on a subsistence economy, as in ancient times. There was no living money. Fuel was exchanged for food from passing ships. Fortunately, there were no glonas All remote villages died with the collapse of the union, because their farms were no longer subsidized.

                Where did you see the lies?
                Villages and villages continue to die out ... In the suburbs - they grow ... Only as cottage settlements.
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 26 March 2021 16: 00
          +6
          In the 90s, salary grew and did not catch up with inflation a little

          Then - it was enough to write in the contract the price in dollars at the exchange rate, and in general - you stayed with your friends. With Putin's stability, real income falls every year. And there is not even anything to get attached to - because the official inflation has nothing to do with the true one. As a result, in order to stay at least at the same level, it is necessary to increase income by 15-20 percent every year. And how, vigorous, to do it ??? Where can you find so many clients in a poor country? You can't raise the price tag that exists for so much - they will send it to hell and they will be right. For everyone is not sweet. And the idea of ​​working more and more practically for nothing - does not seem very attractive. In general, a complete stabilizer, glory to the great Putin ..

          But further - everything will only get worse. For there is no limit to the greed of the bourgeoisie. Real solid confidence in the future ..
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 26 March 2021 16: 29
            +4
            It's not true, yours, laughing Foreign cars, how much it costs in the yards, well-being is growing day by day laughing True, everything is getting more expensive, but incomes are falling, but this is not important. And the number of foreign cars also speaks of the fact that the domestic auto industry has been lifted from its knees. laughing To unprecedented heights.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 26 March 2021 18: 58
              +24
              Quote: parusnik
              Foreign cars, how much it costs in the yards, well-being is growing day by day

              2019: Russians bought a record number of credit cars. Their market share is almost 60%.
              Life in debt is not wealth, it is a stranglehold around the neck
      3. Overlock
        Overlock 26 March 2021 19: 02
        +22
        Quote: Lesovik
        In the 90s, there was a feeling that a fur animal had come. The feeling that we will "break through" may have been with anyone, but not with the people.

        Now, how does it feel?
    2. nnm
      nnm 26 March 2021 16: 44
      +2
      Colleague, let me disagree with you. The Central Bank will repay inflation by raising the key rate. And even if the entire economy is dying, they will keep inflation in check with monetary policy. What they recently showed.
  3. Jcvai
    Jcvai 26 March 2021 15: 12
    +11
    Oil is getting cheaper - gasoline in Russia is getting more expensive, oil is getting more expensive - gasoline in Russia is the same.
    Conclusion: Russian gasoline is clearly not from oil!
    1. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS 26 March 2021 15: 20
      +14
      I don't know who he is or what he is made of, but he is very purposeful!
    2. Artyom Karagodin
      Artyom Karagodin 26 March 2021 15: 22
      +1
      If there was an opportunity, I would put 10 pluses at once, Vladimir. True, it turned out to be a sad joke. But - what a situation, such jokes.
    3. Israel
      Israel 26 March 2021 15: 22
      -1
      Convert the price of gasoline into dollars and you will see that it quite changes in proportion to the price of oil. Russia sells oil for dollars, the price of oil is predicted in dollars.
      1. Alf
        Alf 26 March 2021 16: 08
        +6
        Quote: Israel
        Convert the price of gasoline into dollars and you will see that it quite changes in proportion to the price of oil. Russia sells oil for dollars, the price of oil is predicted in dollars.

        But they sell us gasoline for rubles.
        1. Israel
          Israel 26 March 2021 16: 38
          +3
          These are already "accompanying" costs, the state budget of Russia is based on the price of oil in dollars. Even Putin calculates budget revenues through dollars

          1. Alf
            Alf 26 March 2021 16: 41
            +6
            Quote: Israel
            These are already "accompanying" costs,
            they hit the pockets of ordinary people very hard, although the One Whose Name Cannot Be Named has repeatedly urged ordinary Russians not to pay attention to the dollar exchange rate.
            1. Israel
              Israel 26 March 2021 16: 43
              0
              hit the pocket of ordinary people very hard

              Well, you need to be patient, the confrontation with the United States requires effort, although the media write that Russia has reached record oil supplies to the United States.
              1. Alf
                Alf 26 March 2021 16: 44
                +3
                Quote: Israel
                Well you need to be patient

                And then you can ask with us to bear with our friends Who-who?
                1. Israel
                  Israel 26 March 2021 16: 45
                  +4
                  This is already extremism.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 26 March 2021 16: 49
                    +8
                    Quote: Israel
                    This is already extremism.

                    You are right, somehow I did not think ... I will ask the admins to urgently delete my post.
                2. Aag
                  Aag 29 March 2021 08: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: Alf
                  Quote: Israel
                  Well you need to be patient

                  And then you can ask with us to bear with our friends Who-who?

                  You can ask ... Just not out loud ...
  4. Jaromir
    Jaromir 26 March 2021 15: 19
    +12
    what worries the fuel union

    Our wallet. They cannot sleep, everyone thinks about the money stored in our wallet ...
    1. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS 26 March 2021 15: 27
      +14
      The invisible hand of the market is best at fumbling in the pockets of citizens.
  5. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 26 March 2021 15: 21
    +8
    what
    I thought that NTS would justify the rise in prices by the congestion created by the container ship Ever Given, which accumulated tankers.
    Many such "independent fuel unions" have been created in each region. I consider them to be cartels, "gas station owners' unions."
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 26 March 2021 15: 22
    +7
    The industry simply has to compensate for losses in refining and complex Russian logistics by raising prices for filling stations.
    Yes, yes, they are poor, they are unhappy ...
    Old songs about the main thing "I'm not guilty !!!"
  7. knn54
    knn54 26 March 2021 15: 24
    +7
    Oil reserves are falling, it becomes more and more difficult to extract from "depleting" wells. Salaries of (and not small) employees of companies are growing. In recent years, taxes on gasoline have significantly increased.
    -Oil production - mineral extraction tax (MET) and additional income tax (AIT),
    -Oil refining - excise taxes (including excise tax on crude oil and damper).
    -Sale of gasoline at gas stations - value added tax (VAT).
    In 2019, the share of taxes (effective rates) in the price of AI-92 gasoline reached an all-time high of 54%, the share of production and sales costs was 38%, and the company's profit from sales was only 8%.
    PS In 2010, the price of AI-92 gasoline was 23 rubles. and if tax rates and conditions did not change, then in 2019 the price of gasoline was not 43 rubles, but only 30 rubles!
  8. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 26 March 2021 15: 50
    +6
    It's only the beginning. Summer is coming, which means diesel will go up again. Gas at filling stations has risen in price by 2 rubles in 5 months.
  9. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 26 March 2021 15: 59
    +1
    I generally ride a bike. hi
    Nevertheless, I drew attention to an interesting point a long time ago:
    Oil costs a thousand dollars per bucket - prices are rising.
    Oil costs minus a thousand dollars - prices are rising!
    I watch some kind of game with one goal, however ...
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 March 2021 16: 16
    +5
    And did you try to put these sages with prices against the wall? they say it helps. A normal owner first provides for himself, and the surplus can be sold on the side. Let them be wise there.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 26 March 2021 18: 31
      +4
      Here they provide for themselves and their accounts.
    2. Aag
      Aag 29 March 2021 08: 06
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      And did you try to put these sages with prices against the wall? they say it helps. A normal owner first provides for himself, and the surplus can be sold on the side. Let them be wise there.

      A normal owner provides himself ... Take a look at the composition of the board of directors of Rosneft ...
  11. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 26 March 2021 16: 18
    +10
    Someone can explain to me why diesel (in short - actually "waste" from the distillation of gasoline) is MORE EXPENSIVE in Russia than 92 ?! am belay repeat
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 26 March 2021 16: 25
      +7
      Quote: Corona without virus
      Someone can explain to me why, diesel

      the price is determined by demand (((...... while demand is higher than gasoline, it will still cost ((.... I drive a diesel Santa
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 26 March 2021 18: 54
        +20
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        the price is determined by demand (((...... while demand is higher than gasoline, it will still cost ((.... I drive a diesel Santa
        Demand has nothing to do with it! Taxes and greed determine everything!


        since 2017, I stopped talking about gasoline altogether
    2. Artyom Karagodin
      Artyom Karagodin 26 March 2021 16: 29
      +5
      Because at one time the solarium was much cheaper, and they began to change to it. The price went up and quickly caught up and then surpassed the 92nd. They began to install gas equipment en masse - gas was thrown upwards. No personaly, only business, sir.
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 26 March 2021 16: 33
        +4
        Quote: Artyom Karagodin
        Because at one time the solarium was much cheaper, and they began to change to it. The price went up and quickly caught up and then surpassed the 92nd. They began to install gas equipment en masse - gas was thrown upwards. No personaly, only business, sir.

        DIESEL - ONCE AGAIN - IT'S FORMALLY WASTE !!! ))) Well, how can waste be more expensive than the original product (the same 92) ??? ))))
    3. mark2
      mark2 26 March 2021 16: 53
      +5
      Yes, it's easy.
      Well, first of all, there are a lot of diesel vehicles. Special vehicles and trucks are mainly diesel, plus the growing popularity of diesel engines in passenger cars.
      Secondly. There is not enough diesel fuel from oil, even less kerosene for aircraft.
      Due to its high popularity and small production, diesel fuel is also expensive. Everything is according to the rule: the less product with a simultaneous increase in demand leads to higher prices.
      Here, after all, how: profitability can be increased by increasing production with an unclear prospect of selling the entire volume, or by increasing prices while maintaining a small volume of production, thereby creating a slight shortage of the product.
      Actually, for the last 100 years, this is how the economy has been working all over the world. And if you constantly increase production, the notorious crisis of overproduction will come. As well okay. The goods are being bought up. Only the money supply is growing, hence the financial crisis
    4. Alf
      Alf 26 March 2021 22: 57
      +1
      Quote: Crown without virus
      Someone can explain to me why diesel (in short - actually "waste" from the distillation of gasoline) is MORE EXPENSIVE in Russia than 92 ?! am belay repeat

      Than the 92nd? Ha, ha .. in my Samara, diesel fuel costs more than 95!
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 26 March 2021 16: 23
    +4
    I feel the care of those with whom they offer to rally laughing Mother called and said they would increase her pension by as much as 500 rubles. He replied, don’t worry, something will rise in price. And here you are ... laughing
  13. ximkim
    ximkim 26 March 2021 16: 52
    +3

    What this means is easy to understand - it is much more profitable to export even crude oil abroad than to process and sell it inside the country. The industry simply has to compensate for losses in processing and complex Russian logistics by increasing prices for gas stations.


    Yes .. In Russia, the oil industry and industry curators are pumps.
  14. Maks1995
    Maks1995 26 March 2021 16: 54
    +7
    So it was said for a long time - Monopolies will fight the fall in income with the help of the population's wallets.

    And not only Gazprom or Lukoil. But also intermediate regional daughters. Like the Arshukovs. They also have children over the hill should live well ...
  15. fa2998
    fa2998 26 March 2021 17: 42
    +6
    Quote: Artyom Karagodin
    the state controls gasoline prices domestically. It is worth lowering fuel prices even by 10%, this would already have an effect on the country's economy

    In the hands of the government there are prohibitive customs duties. By regulating duties, you can ensure that the product remains in the country, creating internal competition and lowering prices. If someone decides to export at such duties, then the state receives funds to subsidize the products. will leak, and prices will be sky-high. Only the oil industry will benefit. hi
  16. No name B
    No name B 26 March 2021 18: 20
    +3
    So what if this is happening in Russia, then in Ukraine we need to erect a monument to the authorities for the fact that we are still alive. Gas and oil in marketable quantities of their own netti. It looks like we are 5 years ahead of you in terms of inflation and falling living standards, so you still have a head start ...)
  17. evgen1221
    evgen1221 26 March 2021 18: 29
    +2
    The Suez has been corked up, now such a space for the fall of increases is opening, although all analysts will modestly keep silent about what the Suez has to do with our exports.
  18. Overlock
    Overlock 26 March 2021 18: 40
    +22
    What worries the fuel union is somehow all the same! Worried about the price of gasoline at the gas station!
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  20. A_Mazkov
    A_Mazkov 26 March 2021 20: 58
    +4
    I went in, horrified by the news ...
    Then I read the comments, and was horrified by the number of "akhenty of the State Department" ...
  21. iouris
    iouris 27 March 2021 10: 23
    0
    Soon you will be relieved of the need to monitor petrol prices: ICEs will be banned. Until then, enjoy.
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 March 2021 17: 47
      0
      Quote: iouris
      Soon you will be relieved of the need to monitor petrol prices: ICEs will be banned. Until then, enjoy.

      Let's start monitoring the cost of EHF at gas stations ... charging stations. And listen to how energy is dear THERE ...
  22. bk0010
    bk0010 27 March 2021 10: 30
    0
    At the beginning of the week, the country's Independent Fuel Union (NTS) reported on the possibility of a significant increase in gasoline prices in Russia.
    It doesn't matter: you just need to bring imported gasoline into the country (from Saudi Arabia and Iran) and screw up export duties, and the indices will immediately improve.
    1. A_Mazkov
      A_Mazkov 27 March 2021 13: 27
      +1
      Quote: bk0010
      At the beginning of the week, the country's Independent Fuel Union (NTS) reported on the possibility of a significant increase in gasoline prices in Russia.
      It doesn't matter: you just need to bring imported gasoline into the country (from Saudi Arabia and Iran) and screw up export duties, and the indices will immediately improve.

      To do this, first you need to screw up some people close to someone.
      Then a lot of things to improve right away ...
      1. Alf
        Alf 27 March 2021 17: 49
        0
        Quote: A_Mazkov
        To do this, first you need to screw up some people close to someone.

        And at the same time this "someone" ...
  23. Jane-jack
    Jane-jack 27 May 2021 19: 23
    0
    And I think we need to remove all excise taxes on the import of gasoline into the country. Then the appetite of all these guys will diminish.