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The Ministry of Defense is considering the issue of deploying a new anti-aircraft system S-500

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The Ministry of Defense is considering the issue of deploying a new anti-aircraft system S-500

The Russian Defense Ministry is working on the issue of deploying the latest S-500 Prometheus anti-aircraft missile system. Reportedly "News" with reference to the military department, two options for the deployment of the new anti-aircraft system are being considered.


According to the newspaper, the Ministry of Defense is considering two options for deploying the S-500 air defense system. According to the first option, it is proposed not to re-equip already formed anti-aircraft units with a new air defense system, but to create new regiments and brigades, which will receive the S-500. The deployment of new anti-aircraft units will depend on the prevailing situation.

The second option provides for the rearmament of existing parts with a new air defense system without creating new ones. Currently, the final decision has not yet been made, the newspaper emphasizes.

As previously reported in the Ministry of Defense, the new S-500 air defense system will not replace the existing anti-aircraft systems and complexes, but will only supplement them, occupying a niche between the S-400 Triumph air defense systems and the stationary A-135. At the same time, the S-500 will become the basis for a unified national air and missile defense (air defense-missile defense) system being created in Russia. The complex can be easily integrated into a single system with air defense systems of previous generations and other models of Russian production.

According to available information, the minimum set of equipment for the S-500 "Prometheus" will consist of a combat command post with an automatic control system (ACS), a radar complex, a multifunctional "illumination" radar and up to 12 anti-aircraft missile launchers based on Russian or Belarusian-made tractors. ...

The state armament program provides for the deployment of the S-500 air defense system on combat duty from 2025, but it is possible that the system will go to the troops much earlier.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 24 March 2021 11: 16
    +6
    ... Currently, the final decision has not yet been made, the newspaper emphasizes.

    And now what?
    Let's wait and see.
    Reasoning, but how it should be ... no, no, not on sofas, in the headquarters everything is decided.
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 24 March 2021 11: 25
      +9
      two options for the deployment of the S-500 air defense system.

      create new regiments and brigades, which will receive the S-500.

      The second option provides for the rearmament of existing parts with a new air defense system without creating new ones.

      Why not consider the third option?
      Where to create new shelves, and where to re-equip the old ones? hi
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 24 March 2021 11: 28
        -8
        one to the left, the other to the right of Moscow.
        1. kudma
          kudma 24 March 2021 11: 46
          .
          Yes it will be so! Again, the Ministry of Defense will be stuffed with new complexes and do not care for the rest of the country. Good afternoon everyone.
          1. Rubi0
            Rubi0 24 March 2021 12: 59
            0
            In Moscow and the metropolitan area, 5 part of the country's population, and in some areas, as you say, even 5 people will not be found
            1. mig29mks
              mig29mks 24 March 2021 17: 41
              +1
              Moscow is our everything.
              1. Qas
                Qas 25 March 2021 09: 38
                +5
                Not. Russia is strong in regions. Moscow is getting fat at the expense of the regions and puffs its cheeks. When it was burned down in 1812, Russia did not stagger and survived.
                1. Rubi0
                  Rubi0 26 March 2021 09: 09
                  0
                  You are still living with the slogans of the past. Right now, there are already a lot of employees of foreign companies receiving salaries from overseas, who miss French cheeses after a business trip to the head office in Switzerland. You also try to sell them your cheese, which you supposedly feed everyone, or lure them to rest on some kind of tour base of those who have not seen a thorough renovation since the days of your slogans.
                  1. Qas
                    Qas 31 March 2021 14: 26
                    0
                    What kind of cheese? A stream of unconnected speech and confused thoughts ...
            2. Troll
              Troll 26 March 2021 08: 42
              0
              In Moscow and the metropolitan area, 5 part of the country's population, and in some areas, as you say, even 5 people will not be found

              these areas feed Moscow. Bread, sunflower, which Moscow eats these five, which you will not find and produce.
          2. nemez
            nemez 26 March 2021 10: 36
            +1
            That's just the point, the west is stuffed with the east in part, but there are no people in the Urals.
        2. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 24 March 2021 12: 04
          +8
          Quote: Dead Day
          one to the left, the other to the right of Moscow.

          I'm for the "right" of Moscow))
          1. Alien From
            Alien From 24 March 2021 12: 54
            +2
            What side are you looking from?)
            1. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 24 March 2021 12: 55
              +6
              Quote: Alien From
              What side are you looking from?)

              I'm looking at the map from top to bottom)) ... NiNO (N Novgorod) to the right of Moscow))
              1. Alien From
                Alien From 24 March 2021 12: 56
                +2
                Ok, for today everyone is looking at the navigator good
                1. Tiksi-3
                  Tiksi-3 24 March 2021 13: 18
                  +6
                  Quote: Alien From
                  Ok, for today everyone is looking at the navigator

                  what is a navigator and how to look at it)) ??
                  1. Alien From
                    Alien From 24 March 2021 13: 19
                    +3
                    Brain and eye wassat
          2. YOUR
            YOUR 24 March 2021 13: 01
            +2
            Get out. And here I am, far beyond the Urals. How should we at least hope for something or ......
            1. Shah909
              Shah909 24 March 2021 14: 06
              +2
              Enemy missiles will not reach you. So live in peace
            2. Charik
              Charik 24 March 2021 14: 58
              +1
              so you have there no worse than C500, knocks down meteorites
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 24 March 2021 15: 45
                0
                Hmm? And what do we have
          3. Andrey Shiryaev
            Andrey Shiryaev 26 March 2021 07: 03
            0
            Can I order a couple of divisions? wassat
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 24 March 2021 11: 29
        +3
        And from which side to look?
        On the part of the military or on the part of an accountant?
        From the side of state interests, this will be considered at the top! We are not Switzerland, there will be no referendum.
        You can also see it from the outside ... Well, no one will give me a rocket into the garden, in any way. soldier
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 24 March 2021 11: 34
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          And from which side to look?
          On the part of the military or on the part of an accountant?

          On the part of increasing the country's defense capability, taking into account its financial capabilities!
          Quote: rocket757
          We are not Switzerland, there will be no referendum.

          Do you need him on this issue?
          Let the General Staff work. hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 24 March 2021 11: 41
            +2
            Quote: kapitan92
            Let the General Staff work.

            It will be ... more familiar.
            The giraffe is big, he can see it further.
      3. Dodikson
        Dodikson 24 March 2021 11: 35
        +2
        Or maybe just reinforce existing regiments with S-500 divisions?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 24 March 2021 11: 40
          +2
          And how, to change the staffing table, to break the established order ...
          Let the "woodpecker" have a headache. The final result is important to us ... i.e. increasing the country's defense capability.
        2. moreman78
          moreman78 24 March 2021 11: 53
          +3
          That's right. Especially considering that almost all regiments have now been transferred to a two-divisional composition (in most regiments there are only 2 S-400 or S-300 missiles).
        3. Alien From
          Alien From 24 March 2021 12: 55
          +3
          Read, read and read again.
      4. Machito
        Machito 24 March 2021 11: 50
        +2
        We need to create new shelves. The threats from the West are growing, shields and swords must be forged. While India is eager to buy the S-400, China is drooling by reading articles about the S-500.
        Zhirinovsky's statement about the S-700 does not at all look utterly stupid, but looks like a foresight: while the S-500 is being finalized, the S-600 is already forming the technical specification for the performance characteristics, and the S-700 is being conceived. We must be proactive. The arms race has not yet been canceled.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 24 March 2021 12: 19
          +4
          Quote: Bearded
          Zhirinovsky's statement about the S-700 does not at all look utterly stupid, but looks like a foresight: while the S-500 is being finalized, the S-600 is already forming the technical specification for the performance characteristics, and the S-700 is being conceived.

          Of course, using Zhirinovsky as a scarecrow is a good idea, but sometimes he is just carried like Ostap, and he passes off wishful thinking. Hypothetically, of course, you can ask R&D to develop a new complex that will replace the S-500, but in the military plane and not in the technical one, because we do not yet know what problems will be revealed without military operation, and what will need to be eliminated in the future.
          And only after we understand what the S-500 complex is and at least partially equip the troops with this system, then we can seriously think about what we need in the future to set a new development. Otherwise, our rogue industrialists will always hold a carrot in front of the military so that they invest as much money as possible in development, and we need serial equipment to learn from it and work out combat missions for a future war.
          As they say, everything should have a functional meaning, otherwise we will simply waste budget money on unfinished weapons systems, and this happened in Soviet times.
      5. antivirus
        antivirus 24 March 2021 15: 08
        +1
        in Cuba, the first will put .............................................. .......
      6. bayard
        bayard 24 March 2021 18: 54
        +2
        Quote: kapitan92
        Why not consider the third option?

        Cover them, first of all, ICBM missile bases, then naval base from Trident-2 strikes.
        Then the most key industrial areas with nuclear power plants. There will not be many of them anyway, so it is better to form really new regiments, because these are mainly missile defense, not air defense.
      7. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 25 March 2021 12: 39
        -1
        old regiments of the 400s - to rearm not the 500s,
        and on the basis of the 400s they handed over (BU) - to create new regiments ...
    2. cniza
      cniza 24 March 2021 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      ... Currently, the final decision has not yet been made, the newspaper emphasizes.

      And now what?
      Let's wait and see.
      Reasoning, but how it should be ... no, no, not on sofas, in the headquarters everything is decided.


      I hope they don't read the tea leaves ...

      The state armament program provides for the deployment of the S-500 air defense system on combat duty from 2025, but it is possible that the system will go to the troops much earlier.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 March 2021 13: 11
        +1
        So everything is done according to plan, according to contracts ...
        To hope that everyone has a rocket in the garden ... strange, at least.
        It makes sense to defend according to ... yes according to the plan that has existed and always exists.
        1. cniza
          cniza 24 March 2021 13: 43
          +2
          There are people and centers who are responsible for this ...
  2. figwam
    figwam 24 March 2021 11: 18
    0
    setting the S-500 air defense system on combat duty from 2025, however, it is possible that the system will go to the troops much earlier.

    It should be earlier ...
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 24 March 2021 12: 01
      -3
      Quote: figvam
      It should be earlier ...

      This will depend on the actions of a potential adversary.
      It is necessary to develop, produce - as needed.

      ps
      We will deprive the United States of access to its rocket engines and will have nothing to launch anything into space, and then we will not need the S-500, etc.
  3. Eldorado
    Eldorado 24 March 2021 11: 20
    +3
    Only new shelves!
  4. svp67
    svp67 24 March 2021 11: 21
    +4
    but will only complement them, occupying a niche between the S-400 Triumph air defense systems and the stationary A-135
    The main thing here is to understand, but how many of these "Prometheus" do we need? Taking into account that the A-135 is still a Soviet complex and sooner or later, it will be removed from combat duty and replaced by the same mobile-based A-235 Nudol.
    And remember that very soon American hypersonic RSDs may appear on the territory of Europe, from the time of their approach to Moscow in less than 20 minutes. Against them, you also need to look for an "antidote"
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 24 March 2021 12: 25
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      "antidote"

      The antidote is known - a preemptive strike against enemy targets that pose a threat. But this requires a serious military-political will. And the air defense system is only the last line of defense. With the flight time of the American RIAC in Europe of 15 -20 minutes, the human factor in the air defense automatic control system will have to be completely eliminated, everything should be transferred to the automatic machine. I think even the President will receive a report only after the fact.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 24 March 2021 13: 12
        0
        You propose to create a skynet.
        It never will. And so several times the war almost broke out due to computer failures.
        There were cases both in our country and in the United States, it is naturally known more about the United States, when the NORAD operator set up a training program, the radars "recorded" the approach of Soviet bombers to the US borders. The fighters were raised to intercept them, the entire air defense was brought to the b / g and the command was given to prepare for the launch of the ballistic missile. We managed to figure it out and there was a phone call to the "friend".
        What do you think the automatic system will do in this case?
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko 24 March 2021 14: 59
          +4
          Quote: YOUR
          What do you think the automatic system will do in this case?

          The United States is far from being a criterion for evaluation and conclusions. Moreover, the well-known fact that Moscow's missile defense system has been functioning in a fully automatic mode for decades. At the same time, false alarms and launches of anti-missile missiles have never been recorded.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 24 March 2021 15: 44
            -3
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Moscow missile defense system

            Where is there such a thing?
            1. Genry
              Genry 24 March 2021 16: 47
              0
              Quote: YOUR
              Moscow missile defense system

              Where is there such a thing?

              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90-135
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 25 March 2021 01: 22
                0
                Cool. Only where it is written that it works in automatic mode.
        2. TerraSandera
          TerraSandera 24 March 2021 17: 14
          +1
          And if there is a real attack, and the "friend" answers "I am not me, the tomahawk is not mine"? Should I take my friend's word for it? Or a system? Well, surely there are not one or even 3 answer scenarios. Ie cover the whole ball, or only Europe, or Japan, or the British, and then look at the result. Well, options with cities / bases / etc. How, in general, in 10-15 minutes you can decide what to do, have time to think, etc. Well, in the end, do all this trying to take off or hide in a bunker.
          It seems to me that there is no way to allow the launch and missile defense lines to be brought closer to you, at least the ground component. And not to be limited to ordinary concerns, to place them in Europe "against Iran and North Korea"
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 25 March 2021 01: 26
            0
            How do you imagine a "random" Tomahawk attack.
            Something like Arleigh Burke stealthily approached, quietly fired missiles and quietly escaped. So?
            Or there are some other options
            1. TerraSandera
              TerraSandera 25 March 2021 06: 49
              0
              The tamahawk is written for rhyme. I will not describe what the attack will be. This is just a question per post above. Where the amers' "system" malfunctioned, and they called to ask, are you attacking us? So I wanted to know, is it real?
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 25 March 2021 07: 23
                0
                Not quite sure what you mean? What's real?
    2. g1v2
      g1v2 24 March 2021 16: 52
      -1
      It takes a lot. request Simply because the s500 is the main part of the missile defense system under construction. The more there are, the denser the pro umbrella will be. At the very least, it is necessary to cover the main directions, naval bases and main urban agglomerations.
    3. kapitan92
      kapitan92 24 March 2021 21: 21
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      And remember that very soon on the territory of Europe there may be hypersonic American IRBMs, from the time of approaching Moscow in less than 20 minutes.

      hi
      The flight time of the Pershing located in western Europe was 10 minutes.
      These will fly faster.
      1. svp67
        svp67 25 March 2021 04: 49
        -2
        Quote: kapitan92
        Europe was 10 minutes away.

        But not to Moscow,
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 25 March 2021 10: 32
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: kapitan92
          Europe was 10 minutes away.

          But not to Moscow,

          The American Pershing-2 rocket reached Moscow in 6 minutes. Perhaps during this time the inhabitants of the Kremlin can be evacuated, but it is impossible to hope for more. The range of the missile allowed it to cover a significant part of the European territory of the USSR, including all of Ukraine and Belarus, as well as a significant part of the European territory of the RSFSR. The accuracy of the rocket for that time was the highest - the circular probable deviation was no more than 30 meters, which for a nuclear warhead is actually equal to a direct hit on the target.

          Article on VO 3.10.18.
  5. cniza
    cniza 24 March 2021 12: 12
    +2
    The deployment of new anti-aircraft units will depend on the prevailing situation.


    How else?
  6. Pavel57
    Pavel57 24 March 2021 13: 56
    0
    It should be placed depending on the threats and tasks. What are the top priorities for the 500?
  7. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 25 March 2021 09: 44
    0
    It is good to create new regiments and brigades. But where to recruit specialists for them? And how will this affect the size of the Armed Forces, which seems to be still limited by "international treaties"?