Renewed contacts between Dutch and Russian businesses on energy issues reported after demarche over MH17

The Dutch press reports that the business circles of the Netherlands and Russia have resumed contacts on the issue of energy, which were interrupted in 2017. Contacts go through an energy group that has been in place since the 1990s. According to the Dutch news service DutchNews, this includes companies involved in the implementation of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. For example, this is Shell.

According to Dutch journalists, earlier all contacts on the issue of interaction between the Netherlands and Russia in the field of energy were frozen due to the investigation of the MH17 case. Then the Dutch authorities distinguished themselves with a demarche. This is the case of the fall of the Malaysian Boeing in eastern Ukraine, which was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. The plane was shot down in July 2014. A so-called international group of investigators has formally charged three Russians and one Ukrainian citizen in the attack on the plane.

The Dutch information resource draws attention to the fact that the Dutch authorities, including the country's Foreign Minister Stef Blok, "did not talk about contacts with the Russians, although the meetings of the group on energy issues were held in the Russian capital."

This information caused a violent reaction in Ukraine, where they continue to amuse themselves with hopes that “all of Europe is on the side of Ukraine” and will impose endless sanctions against the Russian Federation even where it is not beneficial for the Europeans themselves. The Ukrainian press called the talks between Dutch business circles and their Russian counterparts "secret gas negotiations."

If the information about the restoration of business contacts between the Netherlands and Russia is true, then this may indicate that there are pragmatists in the kingdom who, for the sake of far-fetched accusations and Kiev's anti-Russian position, are not ready to quit their job in a very promising market for themselves.

Comments

[evgen1221]

Just against the background of the collapse of the ruble, our raw materials in dollars are ready to sell more and cheaper. Well, you won't use it. Sanctions are sanctions and raw materials must be exported on time and on schedule.

[Nasrat]

There is not only oil, there is also gas ... the Netherlands' own gas reserves are coming to an end .. and the Netherlands will soon turn from a gas supplier into a pure consumer - it's time to fill a place in the Nord Streams sandbox, when everything is built, then accession to the pipe will come out more expensive ...
In addition, the Dutch offshore should be "closed" ... again minus the money - there is something to talk about!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Nasr

There is not only oil there, there is also gas ... the Netherlands' own gas reserves are coming to an end .. and the Netherlands will soon turn from a gas supplier into a pure consumer - it's time to fill a place in the Nord Streams sandbox .....

But what about the "rupture of relations" with Europe? Or something else?

[Nasrat]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

But what about the "rupture of relations" with Europe? Or something else?

I did not break off relations with Europe ...
not everyone has enough brains to step over the placed flags

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Nasr

I did not break off relations with Europe ...

Yes, you (judging by the cap on the Ave) do not sell raw materials to them there.)))))

[El Chuvachino]

It was about relations with the European Union as an organization.

[Brturin]

Quote: Nasr

and the Netherlands will soon turn from a gas supplier into a clean consumer

And this "soon time" may be very close ...
The Netherlands may halt production in the giant Groningen gas field in mid-2022 ... GTS emphasizes that gas production from the Groningen field can be minimized once the Zuidbroek nitrogen plant is fully operational. Nitrogen is needed to replace Groningen's low-calorie gas (L-gas) with gas supplies from other high-calorific (H-gas) sources, incl. from Russia ... Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the construction of the Zuidbroek II nitrogen plant is delayed, but the possibility of its commissioning in April 2022 is still not ruled out. If Zuidbroek II is launched on time, gas production at the Groningen field may drop to zero from the spring of 2022, provided that the weather is within average climatic values. https://neftegaz.ru/news/dobycha/0-eshche-podumayut-niderlandy-primut-reshenie-po-obemam-dobychi-gaza-na-mestorozhdenii-groningen-k-sen/

[vic02]

The ruble exchange rate depends on oil and gas prices, and not vice versa, as you think. World prices for oil and gas do not depend on the ruble exchange rate, and dumping is fraught with danger. We have already tried it once, the Saudis have clearly shown whose cones are in the forest.

[NIKN]

Quote: vic02

Ruble exchange rate depends on oil and gas prices

At the expense of the ruble exchange rate, I don’t even know .... I can’t even imagine a situation in which the ruble rate would not fall ... Biden said something there, or even stumbled on the ladder, the ruble fell ... And how could he not to fall if all the savings of the top are not in rubles? The worse the dollar is, the faster the ruble will fall.

[Sharky]

I don't know about the export of raw materials, but after a long lull, the Dutch land-dredging fleet is returning to Russia. This is the second contract being executed in the Far East over the past 12 months. At least one dredge pump belonging to a Dutch company is now leaving for work .

[rocket757]

So it's business and nothing superfluous ... now it is not necessary and not always.
Politics rules everywhere and everywhere, wherever it is allowed to stick its nose.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Politics rules everywhere and everywhere, wherever it is allowed to stick its nose.

And businessmen always, and silently, do business, regardless of the opinions of politicians.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: tihonmarine

And businessmen always, and silently, do business, regardless of the opinions of politicians.

Duck politicians sit there in order to promote the interests of business. Or did you still think that the people choose them?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Or did you still think that the people choose them?

"Democracy" exists in order to choose under the guise of the name of the people.

[rocket757]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Duck politicians sit there in order to promote the interests of business.

Yes, yes, that's just for all the small ones there is a superstructure, which decides who, what and how to do. This is the reality today.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

So it's business and nothing superfluous ... now it is not necessary and not always.
Politics rules everywhere and everywhere, wherever it is allowed to stick its nose.

Russia provides business for many and no one will refuse for a long time ...

[rocket757]

Theoretically, it seems like this, BUT, over all the small ones, businessmen, politicians, peoples, there is ONE MOST STRONG one, with a big club in his hands and against HIS INTERESOV, his team, no one dares to go ... except for the most frostbitten, who have nothing to lose !

[cniza]

The club is still strong, but still strong and everyone knows that ...

[rocket757]

They are waiting with them, they play around, they go around tangentially ... something like that, for now.

[cniza]

Of course, doing business with Russia is a tidbit ...

[tihonmarine]

This information caused a violent reaction in Ukraine, where they continue to amuse themselves with hopes that "all of Europe is on the side of Ukraine."

For Europe and for the same Holland, your pocket is higher than the pocket of Ukraine.

[Ros 56]

And what, the issue with the plane was resolved by mutual agreement? Or is the loot more expensive than dignity?

[Nasrat]

Quote: Ros 56

And what, the issue with the plane was resolved by mutual agreement? Or is the loot more expensive than dignity?

this is a "hangman" .. will raise this topic when it is convenient from a political point of view ...
the destroyed towers in New York have also been forgotten ... but the tricks have been turned ...

[cniza]

Politics is politics, but everyone wants to eat ...

[iouris]

The Dutch have sensed huge profits. And we know everything about Russian business: in the morning you sell for a ruble, in the evening you buy for three.

[faterdom]

And I would have slowed them down. We have someone, and Holland really has something to pinch, all Pyaterochki and our other networkers are Dutch by registration. A ban on the withdrawal of profits until this "investigation" with MH-17 is completed within a reasonable time, clearly, concretely, with conclusions and evidence. And we'll see.
After all, by the way, because of this, the sanctions were introduced to us in advance, and they do not forget to extend them in lines. And if the Dutch business is interested in something, contact your managers, or change them to adequate ones.
And we will wait, we will not crack, especially if they stop exporting money from the country.