"The largest surface fleet in Europe": London intends to intensify actions in the Black and Baltic Seas

Britain intends to significantly intensify the actions of the Royal Navy in the waters of the Black and Baltic Seas, as well as in the Arctic region. Plans to modernize the British fleet set out in the plan for reforming the country's armed forces presented on Monday.

London intends to carry out a major modernization of the fleet with the introduction of a new generation of anti-submarine defense frigates into the Navy, improve interoperability with NATO allies, and increase its military presence in the Black and Baltic Seas, as well as in the Arctic.

Major investments in a new generation of anti-submarine defense frigates and improved interoperability (...) will ensure that the United Kingdom retains its historical role in providing NATO with freedom of action in the North Atlantic and the ability to support European allies

- the document says.

For actions in the Black Sea region, London plans to strengthen ties not only with NATO member states, but also with partners such as Ukraine. The UK is confident that the new capabilities of the Navy will help ensure "freedom of navigation and shipping" not only in the Black Sea, but also in other regions, including the Indian and Pacific Oceans.

Earlier in London, plans were announced to create "Europe's largest surface fleet", which will include 12 new Type 26 and Type 31 frigates, some of which will become part of the aircraft carrier group of the Royal British Navy.

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[Andrei Nikolaevich]

We have already heard about this somewhere .. About ,, the largest army in Europe ,,)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

We have already heard about this somewhere .. About ,, the largest army in Europe ,,)

As they say "with whom you will lead, from that you will gain."

[Nasrat]

The efforts of the Englishwoman are associated with the withering of the United States ... leaving the EU - to untie her hands ... Europe is becoming not homogeneous - a unity actually based on fear - to collapse before our eyes (the same vaccinations) In short, the world is changing, the Englishwoman is preparing for an independent voyage ...
True, the homogeneity of Britain itself is also in doubt ... but I think the queen will take everything in tight-knit gloves, and whoever resists will be set on those intelligence agents, and the case will be exposed as a Russian trace ... ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Spring ... All patients have exacerbation ... That's not enough Britain wanted to bawl again: "Rule, Britain, the seas!"
And as for the "partner of Ukraine" you need to hurry up: they may not be in time!

[orionvitt]

Quote: Nasr

True, the homogeneity of Britain itself is also in doubt ...

Why in doubt? We even know very well. Blacks and Pakistanis in London want to eat and demand. So with the fleet, their idea is so-so, will not work. Air shaking amid the decline of the empire. And the queen is already asking forgiveness from the black wife of her grandson, for her not quite white great-grandson. I'm glad for them.

[Eldorado]

Let the Daring class destroyers get their engines repaired first, otherwise three out of four have been under repair for a year already.

[Alex777]

They have 6 Daring class destroyers.
Britain is demanding the role of the United States as the main wife.
Without US support, she herself is not capable of much.
Butting with Russia on our shores is not for them to drive Argentina on the Falklends.

[hydrox]

Quote: Alex777

Without US support, she herself is not capable of much.

More precisely, no matter what, like ANY NATO country, they are not warriors, not fighters, they are just personnel. To fight with such people - you yourself will feel uncomfortable, and you will return home - and there will be nothing to tell.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Alex777

Without US support, she herself is not capable of much.
Butting with Russia on our shores is not for them to drive Argentina on the Falklends.

Well, in the years of the Cold War, she could independently provide PLO in the North Atlantic with 26 URO friges and 3 light aircraft carriers ...
Such a theater of operations as the North Atlantic where the submarines / SSBNs of the USSR Navy should appear and then it was not possible to control one country, so this is the native area of ​​responsibility of the British Navy and the US Air Force and Norway ...
In the area of ​​the British and Baltic straits, NATO has a permanent MTS connection of the Navy ....
Why would they only need the Black Sea, there would be enough ships from other countries ...
Having accepted plans to build two multipurpose aircraft carriers, Great Britain was doomed to subsequently build surface escort forces of the Navy and submarines ...
We already have 6 modern destroyers, it remains to increase the number of ASW frigates and additionally purchase basic patrol aircraft ...

[Alex777]

Britons and the number of nuclear warheads are increasing, and they are going to wander around our seas.
I can see one reason for all this: the hegemon stopped himself from plugging all the holes and began to encourage the harem to be active.
The Britons voluntarily would not throw money down the drain.
The United States will be tired of restraining China with its pace of building a fleet.
So instead of them the Britons will "restrain" us. In theory.
They have yet to build the required number of frigates.
Let's wait and see how it all goes. They may, after all, change their minds.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Alex777

Britts and the number of nuclear warheads increase,

Exactly, which were reduced almost immediately after the end of the XV ...

I can see one reason for all this: the hegemon stopped himself from plugging all the holes and began to encourage the harem to be active.
The Britons voluntarily would not throw money down the drain.

Not certainly in that way. After the collapse of the Union, we were buried in NATu forever, and then the fleet began to be updated, primarily due to submarines / SSGNs / SSBNs and their combat duty in the world ocean, which poses a threat to NATO ...

The United States will be tired of restraining China with its pace of building a fleet.
So instead of them the Britons will "restrain" us. In theory.

And so it was in the years of the Cold War. The North Atlantic is the area of ​​responsibility of the British Navy .... they are simply forced to recall the old again, so all British destroyers URO (I consider them the best in the world) - 6 (air defense), frigates URO - 13, UDC - 2, PLA - 6 ( 3 under construction) and multipurpose aircraft carriers - 2 will shine in the North Atlantic ....

They have yet to build the required number of frigates.

In addition to 13? KSF EM URO has only one.
Great Britain has never suffered from a lack of competence in the construction of all types of warships and merchant ships ....

They may, after all, change their minds.

I hope for COVID-19 too

[figwam]

Meanwhile, the ships of the Baltic Fleet (3 BDK and 1 Corvette) go to the Black Sea.

[credo]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

We have already heard about this somewhere .. About ,, the largest army in Europe ,,)

It seems like it was about the APU.
And now the British have decided to squeeze out the "most powerful" fleet of Ukraine in the Black Sea.

But seriously, it looks like the Anglo-Saxons decided by their actions to push the neighbors of Russia and China to war, providing these neighbors with logistical support and support to move away from the battlefield, in conjunction with the United States.
Since Russia and China did not agree to the terms of the Anglo-Saxons, the Anglo-Saxons will act in the last proven way - to provoke a war with these countries by proxy. And there are always fools.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: credo

And now the British have decided to squeeze out the "most powerful" fleet of Ukraine in the Black Sea.

If the Ukrainian Navy is compared with the Romanian Navy, then it will be in favor of Romania -
The frigate flotilla (naval base Constanta) includes the frigates Marasesti (F 111), Regel Ferdinand (F 221), Regina Maria (F 222) and the support ship Constanta (281).
The 50th corvette division (naval base Mangalia) includes: corvettes "Admiral Petr Berbunianu" (260), "Vice-Admiral Eugen Rosca" (263), "Rear Admiral Eustatiu Sebastian" (264), "Rear Admiral Horia Machelariu" (265), as well as the Smeul (202), Vizhelia (204) and Vulkanul (209) torpedo boats. And then there are minesweepers and flotillas of boats.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: tihonmarine

as well as the Smeul (202), Vizhelia (204) and Vulkanul (209) torpedo boats.

Oh, I thought that the TKA is history and they remained only as part of the KPA Navy ...

[orionvitt]

Quote: credo

The Anglo-Saxons will act in the last proven way - to provoke a war with these countries by someone else's hands.

I will correct it. For the Anglo-Saxons, this is not the last but the very first way. To play off and quarrel with everyone, this is their main weapon, here they have no equal.

[FIR FIR]

And what, 12 frigates will make the British Navy the strongest? If so, how sad is everything with the fleet in Europe.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: FIR FIR

And what, 12 frigates will make the British Navy the strongest? If so, how sad is everything with the fleet in Europe.

But of course they are far from us ...

Now the composition of the surface forces of the Northern Fleet includes:
- Heavy aircraft cruiser;
- Heavy nuclear missile cruiser;
- missile cruiser;
- Six large anti-submarine ships and destroyers;
- Nine small warships;
- One artillery boat;
- Nine minesweepers;
- Four large landing ships and the same number of landing boats.

https://topwar.ru/167157-severnyj-flot.html
Article 2020, lists general forces. Almost the entire crew was built under the Union ...

[bistrov.]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

largest army in Europe ,,)

A slightly different formulation was used there: "... the strongest ...", hehe ...

[Grandfather]

well .. when all the caps are thrown at the enemies, and the caps have taken off victoriously ... it remains in the bottom of that ... the blocked Baltic fleet, the fleet must be written in "quotes", old junk, one corvette, one boat, - this is slaughter. of course, we will hit later, with all the power ... BUT, the question is ... who needs THIS? no one will tempt fate while his priest is warm and well-being ... and then another question: what kind of game is this ???

[Pessimist22]

It is clear that the Englishwoman will shit in the Black and Baltic Seas more often.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pessimist22

It is clear that the Englishwoman will shit in the Black and Baltic Seas more often.

By the way, according to the MARPOL convention, the sulfur content in fuel is limited in the SECA zones. The maximum sulfur content is within 0,1%. So they won't have much to smoke, but what is very expensive is yes.

[Hunter 2]

Phantom pains? For a long time already in the past the slogan "Britain is the queen of the seas" ... well, let them dream, as they say, the Odd dummy gets richer!

[vargo]

All the time they remember their fleet from the time of the colonies, but they just forget that the colonies no longer pay them
as then.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Hunter 2

Phantom pains? The slogan "Britain is the queen of the seas" has long been in the past.

It's nice to remember the old days, like that old woman who screamed "I was raped .... nice to remember" all over the street.

[Alien From]

Today VO recalls Russian folk sayings

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alien From

Today VO recalls Russian folk sayings

You always need to remember the old sayings, it's nice to hear the old, than "this pepper is a tough guy, nishtyak."

[Jacket in stock]

And what, they do not want to provide freedom of navigation on the Volga and on Lake Baikal with their fleet?
Or at least in the Caspian Sea? Not?
Wimps.

[Alien From]

Let's wait) at the Britt early in the morning ...

[knn54]

The former head of the Royal Navy said that "Britain cannot be a second-rate military power, like bloody Belgium or Denmark" ...
At the same time, it is planned to reduce funding for the salaries of the military, funding for equipment, accommodation, food and cut training benefits.
Or was Johnson "convinced" by the Secretary of Defense and the head of the Admiralty?

[tralflot1832]

And in the South China and in the Black and Baltic and so far forgotten Barents Sea, and even the Mediterranean with Gibraoltar, won't it be too much? And after all, why will the island be protected?

[ioan-e]

Soon to swim on such, just swim, and not walk, I will!

[rotmistr60]

in the waters of the Black and Baltic Seas, as well as in the Arctic region

For some reason Ilf and Petrov recalled: "And then Ostap suffered ...". Especially with regard to the Arctic region, in which even their main "ally" feels like a locksmith on stage among the Bolshoi ballerinas.

[Basarev]

Will they pull it? The economy may not be able to cope, especially given the heavy burden the migrants are carrying.

[xomaNN]

Looking at Johnson the clown you "believe" that he will be able to "inflate naval bubbles" And in real life - "... where is the money, Zin?"

[venik]

"....The UK is confident that the new capabilities of the Navy will help ensure "freedom of navigation and shipping" not only in the Black Sea, but also in other regions, including the Indian and Pacific Oceans.... "
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In, demagogues! As if there was no freedom of navigation before! And now the Yankees, coupled with the brits - urgently "attended"!
Well, okay - those Yankees have long had ambitions "above the roof" (they consider the news of the world as their outskirts!) So now they are also small-shaven with their "largest surface fleet in Europe" - to the same place!
In truth: "Where a horse with a hoof, there is a cancer with a claw!" ...

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Here's how the British strain works, it turns out.

[Pavel73]

Voo, vot they climb out, British ears! For all the nasty things against Russia.

[rocket757]

"The largest surface fleet in Europe": London intends to intensify actions in the Black and Baltic Seas

A ragged cat in your repertoire! There must be something eternal, unchanging in this world ... the Englishwoman shits.

[cniza]

And they all consider themselves lions ...

[rocket757]

So they are huddled in a bunch. With the sum, the strength is not weak.
Only this is all the same, because all their arguments are covered by one, the most trump card ...
Everyone wants to live ...

[cniza]

Too much arrogance from them, but in fact ...

[rocket757]

Guano they are around a lot, scatter a lot .... one word zas / r / antsy.

[cniza]

Their anger towards us always led to their own losses, and after all, once they were relatives with our kings ...

[rocket757]

Nonsense, it is useless to press on the kindred!
The enemy is always and in everything.

[cniza]

It has always been so, they are irreconcilable enemies ...

[hydrox]

This is what the relative creatures refused to provide protection to Nicholas II and his family: if the World Bank accepted them, the tsar would have every chance of staying alive

[cniza]

There are many jambs from the WB side, but this is already history ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: cniza

And they all consider themselves lions ...

Something reminds

[Your stranger]

11 nuclear submarines, plus under construction,
2 aircraft carriers, 6 destroyers, 11 frigates,
Plus the construction of frigates of a new type,
And what will the northern fleet of the Russian Federation oppose to it?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Stranger

And what will the northern fleet of the Russian Federation oppose to it?

SpetsBCH in the required quantity.

[Your stranger]

Britain also has special warheads in the right amount

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

So why then was your question about the Northern Fleet? Someone seriously going to duel fleet against fleet?

[Your stranger]

The question was based on "patriotic" comments in the style of hats.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

The Anglo-Saxons would very much like to fight with us with conventional weapons, since they have an overwhelming advantage on their side, and they are very fond of fighting victoriously with an obviously inferior enemy.

[hydrox]

In this they resemble mattress mats (well, yes, only blood - they sit behind a puddle, are not afraid of anything - and these on the island feel safe) - only water spaces today do not frighten anyone, and there is no need to force them if the blockade is well established (remember PQ).

[Sergej1972]

In terms of strategic missile submarines, the forces of the Northern Fleet and the British Navy are comparable. The number of destroyers and BODs is the same as the British destroyers.

[The Siberian barber]

Someone, whatever they say / write with "checkers bald", and the British fleet, may well "drink blood" in the North Atlantic

[cniza]

All in. Yes, in the Atlantic, but in the Black Sea and even more so in the Arctic, he has nothing to do, and there is nothing special ...

[Your stranger]

And what should the Russian fleet do in the Black Sea and the Arctic?

[Andrew 2510]

Be, prosper and develop, and you just drool and you have to

[Your stranger]

Trade routes cross the North Atlantic, not the Arctic!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Stranger

And what should the Russian fleet do in the Black Sea and the Arctic?

Protect the Arctic from ochlamons, drive Bandera's people in the Black Sea.

[hydrox]

The times of the "Great Armada" are also over - any fleet on the high seas is a target, unarmed and defenseless with modern methods and methods of destruction.
And who is interested in troughs and laibs in bays, bases and ports? So, "seals" to play ...

[cniza]

build up its military presence in the Black and Baltic Seas, as well as in the Arctic.

Some more are asking ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: cniza

Some more are asking ...

If only one ...

[cniza]

Well, let's just say, another of the serious opponents ...