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In Ukraine, they are going to produce 155 mm caliber guided projectiles, but do not answer the question about suitable weapons

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In the coming years, Ukraine is planning to create 155 mm guided projectiles with a range of up to 50 kilometers. We are talking about the release of ammunition within the framework of the Flower Garden / Periwinkle program.


Director of the Precision Weapons and Ammunition Division of the Ukroboronprom concern Andriy Artyushenko spoke about ambitious plans for the development of the ammunition production industry in the Ukrainian Internet TV program Security Talks.


In particular, he expressed confidence that soon the armed forces of Ukraine will be forced to completely switch to the standards of the North Atlantic Alliance, since the resource of Soviet-made artillery in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be completely exhausted.

We understand that the life cycle and resource of artillery systems made back in the USSR will be completed in the next five years.

- noted Andrey Artyushenko during the interview.

As the main task of the new Precision Weapons and Ammunition holding, he sees the creation of its own production of 120 and 155 mm ammunition that meets NATO standards.


The Ukrainian guided missile "Flower Garden" of 152 mm caliber appeared in the Ukrainian Armed Forces back in 2012. After the start of the armed aggression of the Ukrainian army in Donbas, the ammunition, which consisted of 70 percent of Russian components, was modernized and presented in an updated version in 2017.


And in the fall of last year, Defense Express announced plans to conduct state tests of Ukrainian-made projectiles with semi-active laser guidance of 152/155 mm caliber, named "Periwinkle".

At the same time, in Ukraine, they do not answer the question of what equipment, what suitable weapons they are going to use for firing 155 mm guided ammunition. Earlier in the Ukrainian press it was reported that Kiev expects to establish the production of such weapons or buy them in large quantities in NATO countries. At the same time, the authorities did not officially talk about this. But, in any case, so far there are no funds in the country's budget for either option. In this regard, it was suggested that Ukraine is thus going to enter the NATO market. But there is another difficulty - whether potential Ukrainian suppliers will be allowed into this market.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 23 March 2021 09: 29
    +2
    In Ukraine, they are going to produce 155 mm caliber guided projectiles, but do not answer the question about suitable weapons
    Are they serious about it? fool
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 23 March 2021 09: 33
      +4
      since the resource of Soviet-made artillery in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be completely exhausted.
      Nobody doubts where he will be exhausted by these Nazis.
      When will our authorities really end up supporting them economically?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 March 2021 09: 59
        -1
        Something, some where ... for "businessmen", gold does not smell and is not stained anywhere, ever.
        And the upper ones ... from words to deeds, very far, if it comes at all.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 23 March 2021 12: 31
          +5
          Quote: rocket757
          Something, some where ... for "businessmen", gold does not smell and is not stained anywhere, ever.
          And the upper ones ... from words to deeds, very far, if it comes at all.

          I do not know how else the "top" should offend, so that they wake up request
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 March 2021 12: 49
            -2
            Insult ??? What is it like? Denyushka to heal, business to squeeze out and other things like that .. maybe so?
      2. Dodikson
        Dodikson 23 March 2021 10: 19
        -3
        ours are forced to support, since the west wants to do with 404 the same thing that they did with the Slavs of now eastern Germany, make them some other people, with a different language, faith and history, and send them to the east.
        Have you noticed that they have a lot of new words, new letters, new details from the "history"?
        ours help them a lot because they rely not on the elite, but on the common people. and act quietly.
        that is, ours simply do good, and do not demand anything in return, the kakly hate it as before, but every time, somewhere in the depths of the psyche, the factology accumulates that in difficult times the help was from Russia, and not from the beloved West, and then this factology and will be the main breakdown in the breakdown of the pro-Western psychological attitude.
        that is, ours are acting with a reserve for the future.
        and much remains unknown, such as that in winter our people helped kaklam with electricity, so that they would not die from hypothermia.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 23 March 2021 11: 20
          0
          Quote: Dodikson
          ours help them a lot because they rely not on the elite, but on the common people. and act quietly.

          They did it before, they do it now, but ACHIEVEMENTS WHERE ???
          1. Dodikson
            Dodikson 23 March 2021 11: 22
            -4
            Moscow was not built right away, the kakly did not become Judas in a year either, they were processed for a couple of hundred years and the result is there.
    2. A1845
      A1845 23 March 2021 09: 34
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      Really

      but what else, with pans on their heads - this is very serious.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 March 2021 10: 00
        -1
        as if we remember how it turned out earlier ... but in Molotov's way!
    3. Cananecat
      Cananecat 23 March 2021 09: 51
      -1
      They will twist right in place before the shot. ))
    4. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 23 March 2021 09: 56
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      Quote: rocket757
      Are they serious about it?

      Theoretically, they can assemble some Copperheads with a screwdriver, or whatever is there now from the bourgeoisie, but you can call it whatever you like: Periwinkle, Kvitok, Sirunok.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 March 2021 11: 21
        -1
        But who will entrust them with that, and their workers need this work.
    5. knn54
      knn54 23 March 2021 09: 57
      +2
      Wheeled self-propelled guns "Bogdana". Planned for Turkish shells, but did not grow together.
    6. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 March 2021 10: 00
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      Are they serious about it?

      Why are they just not going to do and create, even colonize the Moon together with the United States.
      They came up with open mouth, He sees an eye, but a tooth doesn’t.
    7. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 23 March 2021 11: 08
      -2
      Are they serious about it? fool
      Reply


      I think there is nowhere more serious. Weapons are not a problem for Ukraine, they can be bought, and money can be planted in the United States.

      With a 155 mm high-precision projectile, guns and groups of special forces or artillery spotters with UAVs, the damage from Ukrainian artillery will increase dramatically.

      With such shells, they can easily destroy pillboxes and tanks and even infantry in trenches and dugouts.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 March 2021 11: 23
        0
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        With such shells, they can easily

        Maybe yes, maybe no ... but nothing will come in response?
      2. Stepan S
        Stepan S 23 March 2021 19: 16
        0
        I see you are a dreamer. And the guns are not a problem, and the money will be planted .. and the UAV will be corrected. Artillery is not a piece of goods, hundreds of barrels are needed, and it costs a lot of money and time. And as a result, the cartridge plant has not yet been built in seven years.
    8. venik
      venik 23 March 2021 11: 52
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      In Ukraine, they are going to produce 155 mm caliber guided projectiles, but do not answer the question about suitable weapons
      Are they serious about it? fool

      ========
      So, they constantly announce something, declare, threaten, plan ... Either launch a rocket to Mars, then create an OTRK (so that it can fire up to Moscow), then the "newest" air defense system, then a super-tank of a new generation, then .. .....
      But in fact, almost everything remains "thoughts", the end comes to "paper", even less - to prototypes and only units of which (you can count on the fingers of one hand) - up to small-scale production ..... Well, what to take from them: It is not in vain that the proverb is: "The fool is getting richer with his dumkoy!" request
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 March 2021 12: 18
        +1
        And we are also discussing this .... probably boring, there is not enough real news.
        1. venik
          venik 23 March 2021 12: 27
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          And we are also discussing this .... probably boring, there is not enough real news.

          ======
          What is there to do? Well, not every day new ships are launched, new planes, missiles, tanks, etc. are tested ... And the "news" section needs to be filled with something every day!
          So they "fill in" what they can! request
          drinks
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 March 2021 12: 48
            0
            Okay, for a "chatterbox" will do.
            There is always where and what to see, at your leisure ... though everything and everywhere seems to be divided into two usual directions, nothing more.
  2. zwlad
    zwlad 23 March 2021 09: 31
    -1
    The more they have 155 mm ammunition, the less iron will fall on the heads of the LDNR fighters.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 23 March 2021 11: 08
      +2
      The more they have 155 mm ammunition, the less iron will fall on the heads of the LDNR fighters.


      I see no logic in your words.
      1. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 23 March 2021 11: 15
        -1
        I see no logic in your words.

        I agree. What is the binding of the hotelok ukrov to the number of still Soviet ammunition flying at our heads. They have enough of this stuff, they also sell it off, covering warehouses with explosions.
        And so, another deflection in front of the owner, look how we try.
      2. zwlad
        zwlad 24 March 2021 08: 21
        0
        There will be nothing to shoot from.
  3. Terenin
    Terenin 23 March 2021 09: 38
    +3
    At the same time, in Ukraine they do not answer the question,
    Since 2014, she has not answered anything at all. The owner forbade it.
  4. prior
    prior 23 March 2021 09: 38
    0
    Is that the Ukrainian "prepare your sleigh in summer"?
    Have you got Vaseline? Where is the itching smeared?
    Here it is itching to castle-head .....
  5. Gato
    Gato 23 March 2021 09: 41
    +2
     In the coming years in Ukraine

    In principle, you don't need to read further. No offense to the author ..
    In / in Ukraine, any planning for more than a year has no practical meaning.
    1. nnm
      nnm 23 March 2021 09: 55
      +5
      Colleague, I think you flatter them a lot. There, there is a limiting planning horizon - "until lunchtime, and there we will already promise something new!"
      1. Gato
        Gato 23 March 2021 13: 34
        +1
        Well, why, promises can also be planned: "in a year we plan to promise ..." and then according to the manual laughing
  6. Alien From
    Alien From 23 March 2021 09: 42
    +1
    Let them do, even if they walk on their heads ... the more, the better)
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 23 March 2021 10: 02
    +1
    A strange statement. Ukraine from all over the world buys old Soviet shells, themselves only at the beginning of its production, and now there is talk about guided munitions. This is a completely different level of industry.
    1. Avior
      Avior 23 March 2021 10: 53
      -1
      In principle, if guided versions of projectiles for MLRS have been developed, the work on guided projectiles is simplified - although, of course, this is not the same thing.
      1. Gato
        Gato 23 March 2021 13: 45
        0
        they are not the same

        Quite different requirements for shock loads at least.
        What is it all about?
        In / on there is not even an established production of rifle b / p, and such a relatively simple thing as a mortar turns out to be cancer.
        And then the 155 mm artillery barrels and the UAV complexes! For over $ 7000 per shell! What do you think, in what quantities will such b / ns go to the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
        1. Avior
          Avior 23 March 2021 14: 37
          -1
          The question is how much the guided projectiles will cost. It is for them that a lot of barrels are not needed, and high shooting accuracy is not required, you can buy ready-made ones.
          And in a UAV complex with target designation or even simply with reconnaissance, the guided projectile will be very effective with a limited number of units fired.
          Actually, this bundle of UAVs with a guided projectile arose relatively recently.
          1. Gato
            Gato 23 March 2021 15: 06
            0
            a bunch of UAVs with a guided projectile arose relatively recently

            A projectile of this type requires laser illumination of the target in any case. And for this she must be in line of sight of the artillery gunner, which may end sadly for him.
            For laser target designation from a UAV, a cleverly made stabilized platform is needed, and again this indecent question arises: "where is the money, Zin?"
            1. Avior
              Avior 23 March 2021 15: 10
              0
              This stabilized UAV platform is on camera.
              A variant with satellite navigation against stationary targets is also possible
  8. svp67
    svp67 23 March 2021 10: 10
    0
    Is that the Ukrainian version of Krasnopol?
    1. K150
      K150 23 March 2021 10: 45
      0
      Kryzhopol, or rather will be kryzhopol. Yes, and there is only Ukrainian name and plumage.
  9. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 23 March 2021 10: 20
    +3
    Ukraine is going to produce 155 mm guided projectiles
    This is for arming the F-35, which Ukraine will soon receive.
  10. Avior
    Avior 23 March 2021 10: 51
    +1
    When using guided shells, a large number of artillery barrels are not required.
    In fact, to provide one drone, two or three separate guns stretched along the front are enough (provided, of course, that the range of the projectiles with acceptable accuracy will actually be 50 km, as they wrote in the article)
  11. Basarev
    Basarev 23 March 2021 10: 54
    0
    With barrels and shells themselves, everything is not so radiant. Especially with these control systems, guidance and other electronic goons. So we wouldn’t laugh, but we would have to work hard ourselves, closing the gaps.
  12. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 23 March 2021 11: 00
    -1
    Without going into technical issues, if I were Russian developers, I would accuse Ukrainian "colleagues" of plagiarism for trying to cling to the floral theme.
    1. svp67
      svp67 23 March 2021 14: 24
      0
      Quote: Ruslan Sulima
      for trying to cling to the floral theme.

      Alas .... "Soviet heritage"
      1. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 23 March 2021 14: 30
        -1
        Alas .... "Soviet heritage"

        What about decommunization?)
        So they fucked up, here we remove the Soviet legacy, and here we leave ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 23 March 2021 14: 35
          0
          Quote: Ruslan Sulima
          What about decommunization?)

          And then there is strict differentiation ...
          1. Ruslan Sulima
            Ruslan Sulima 23 March 2021 14: 47
            -1
            And then there is strict differentiation ...

            Smiled)
            Well, God forbid them to take advantage of the communist Soviet legacy)
            1. svp67
              svp67 23 March 2021 14: 49
              0
              Quote: Ruslan Sulima
              Well, God forbid them to take advantage of the communist Soviet legacy)

              So they use it in everything, including in politics and in public life. Their methods are not very different from the Soviet ones. There was even a party congress, where everyone "unanimously approved" the speech of their "general secretary"
              1. Ruslan Sulima
                Ruslan Sulima 23 March 2021 15: 02
                0
                So they use it in everything, including in politics and in public life. Their methods are not very different from the Soviet ones. There was even a party congress, where everyone "unanimously approved" the speech of their "general secretary"

                Well, the result is obvious)
                How is it, God is not Yashka, who sees it hard)
                And it was not in vain that smart people said that if God wants to punish, he deprives the mind ...
  13. Constanty
    Constanty 23 March 2021 11: 44
    0
    At the same time, in Ukraine, they do not answer the question of what equipment, what suitable weapons they are going to use for firing 155 mm guided ammunition.


    Theoretically, one of the cannons using this missile could be the Bogdana cannon-howitzer. Theoretically, because it is not mass-produced
    1. svp67
      svp67 23 March 2021 14: 27
      0
      Quote: Constanty
      In theory, one of the cannons using this missile could be a howitzer cannon.

      Rather, the Slovak "Susanna"
    2. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 23 March 2021 14: 31
      -1
      Theoretically, because it is not mass-produced

      What's the point?)
      1. Constanty
        Constanty 23 March 2021 14: 49
        0
        what equipment, what suitable weapons are they going to use for firing 155 mm guided ammunition


        Answer - for example "Bogdana"
        This is a Ukrainian-designed 155-mm howitzer cannon. And therefore, theoretically (for today) only what so far is probably only a prototype.
        However, the 155-mm projectiles under consideration have not yet been mass-produced, so it is possible that this gun will use them in the future.
  14. Bauer
    Bauer 23 March 2021 12: 12
    -2
    The Ukrainians know how to reproduce plans. They want to be like adults. Sankyulottes
  15. alexniko77
    alexniko77 23 March 2021 14: 41
    -2
    "At the same time, Ukraine does not answer the question of what equipment, what suitable weapons they are going to use for firing 155 mm guided ammunition."
    these weapons will be the carcasses of the National Battalions: they will stretch the given supply to the hump, in the hands - a compass and a map with a mark of the destination ...
  16. mu1972
    mu1972 24 March 2021 23: 26
    0
    they just need a guided projectile !! because the new ukrosnaryady uncontrollable if not explode immediately after departure from the gun, then they fly to the place with their booty forward !!!!!!!!!!)))))) and burst into only 50 fragments !!))
  17. Nord11
    Nord11 April 24 2021 23: 17
    0
    And as soon as the shells are created, they will immediately smoothly move on to the creation of the imperial Death Star ..
  18. King3214
    King3214 4 May 2021 18: 06
    0
    Why did Russia supply ammunition components to Nazi Ukraine?
    After all, even a stupid one could understand that fascism ruled in Ukraine, right after the first anti-constitutional coup in 2004. (When the "third round of elections" not provided for by the Constitution of Ukraine was used to promote the Nazi Yushchenko to the President of Ukraine)