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In terms of GDP per capita for 2020, Ukraine remains the poorest country in Europe

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Published data on the economic situation in Ukraine for 2020. The drop in Ukraine's GDP was about 4% in real terms. This is somewhat better than that of a number of countries on the European continent, but worse than the Russian indicator (about -3,5%).


At the same time, it was emphasized in Ukraine itself that at the end of 2020, the country remained in last place in Europe in terms of GDP per capita. Thus, the data were announced, on the basis of which Ukraine's GDP amounted to 154,8 billion US dollars.

Experts note that the government of the country today has a dilemma. On the one hand, the situation could be corrected by a banal recount of the permanent population of Ukraine. Officially, Kiev continues to publish data on the basis of which it is claimed that the country's population is about 41,9 million people. However, in reality, the population of Ukraine is at least 7 million less. On the other hand, if the Ukrainian government recognizes the fact that in the 7 years since the victory of the “revolution, the dignity” of the population has decreased so significantly (primarily due to the actual loss of Donbass and the departure of millions of people from the country), then this will deal a blow to the Ukrainian authorities, will bring down their already low ratings even more.

By the way, it should be noted that the 4% drop in Ukraine's GDP does not correspond to the IMF data. They continue to analyze the economies of the countries of the world, noting that the drop in Ukrainian GDP in 2020 could be at least 7 percent. And this is significantly more than the world average.

Recall that at the end of 2020, the economies of most countries of the world showed a decline. But there are also countries that showed economic growth in the year of the pandemic. Among them is China.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 23 March 2021 06: 08
    +2
    at the end of 2020, the country remained in last place in Europe in terms of GDP per capita.
    With such talented leaders, everyone will soon take a break!
    Who, then, will fight with Russia?
    Not an order!
    Washobkom in thought ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 23 March 2021 06: 55
      +3
      Russia ranks only 50th in the ranking of countries in terms of GDP per capita (according to the International Monetary Fund, estimate for 2020). Our figure is $ 27 per person.

      Our level is a cross between Croatia (49th place) and Malaysia (51st place).

      34. Lithuania - $ 38;
      37. Estonia - $ 37;
      43. Latvia - $ 30;
      50... Russia - $ 27;
      53. Kazakhstan - $ 26;
      64. Belarus - $ 19;
      74. Turkmenistan - $ 16;
      79. Georgia - $ 15;
      84. Azerbaijan - $ 14;
      87. Armenia - $ 13;
      90. Moldova - $ 13;
      93. Ukraine - $ 12;
      121. Uzbekistan - $ 7;
      139. Kyrgyzstan - $ 4;
      151. Tajikistan - $ 3.
      1. nnm
        nnm 23 March 2021 07: 07
        +15
        And the meaning of the comparison? Could you provide data on the share of EU subsidies for the Baltic countries? I think this will immediately change the indicators. It is one thing to live at the expense of a wealthy owner, another at the expense of your own production. And the scale of prices is different in countries.
        1. Nikon OConor
          Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 07: 40
          +10
          exactly, but if we recalculate the purchasing power of the ruble within the country, and compare it with abroad (i.e., convert to dollar and again compare). Let's say ... Orenburg region - a loaf of premium bread costs 20 - 24 rubles, i.e. about 25 - 30 cents, in Europe / USA will you buy bread for 30 cents? I don't think ...
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 23 March 2021 07: 59
            0
            Quote: Nikon OConor
            internally, but if we recalculate the purchasing power of the ruble within the country, and compare it with abroad (i.e., convert to dollar and again compare). Let's say ... Orenburg region - a loaf of premium bread costs 20 - 24 rubles, i.e. about 25 - 30 cents, in Europe / USA will you buy bread for 30 cents? I don't think ...


            You're right yes Everything is relative.

            1. Nikon OConor
              Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 11: 35
              +4
              Fuck !!! I felt sorry for the poor Yap. It turns out that they live badly, but our life does not suit us ...... "youth revolts." Damn, they have 2 types of sausages, and for "30 varieties" my parents (I mean generation) destroyed the USSR ...
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 23 March 2021 13: 52
                -1
                It's funny to talk about some "achievements" and "successes" of the crumbling poorest country in Europe (zdobula!), One of the most infected with coronavirus in Europe (4 times higher than in Russia), whose population is dying out and scattered, in which there is a civilian a war, the economy of which is dilapidated, a huge number of industries destroyed or dilapidated, the country lives on foreign handouts, the national debt is rapidly approaching 80% of GDP, the interest on it to be paid in 2021 is $ 17 billion, and there is a default.
                1. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 20: 00
                  +2
                  yeah, and also an external enemy - a superpower that cannot come to war in any way, there is no time for it ..))
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 23 March 2021 08: 59
            0
            Quote: Nikon OConor
            Orenburg region - a loaf of premium bread costs 20 - 24 rubles, i.e. about 25 - 30 cents, in Europe / USA will you buy bread for 30 cents?

            Baton 400 grams. about 70 cents and it's not the most expensive.
          3. Piramidon
            Piramidon 23 March 2021 10: 25
            0
            Quote: Nikon OConor
            if we recalculate the purchasing power of the ruble

            There is even a so-called. "Big Mac index" which more accurately reflects the ratio of the exchange rate.
            The Big Mac Index is an unofficial way to measure purchasing power parity (PPP).
            The Big Mac index is based on the theory of purchasing power parity, according to which the exchange rate should equalize the value of a basket of goods in different countries (that is, the ratio of exchange rates), only instead of a basket one standard burger produced by McDonald's is taken everywhere
            1. Nikon OConor
              Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 11: 15
              +2
              There is even a so-called. "big mac index"

              I would not project the Big Mac index onto our country. Yet we have a completely different food culture. Easier on a loaf of bread (but also not correct in relation to the United States, they have a burger that is the basis of the basics) so that price comparison is also a difficult question.
              I remember in the USSR there was such a "setting" that for the smallest monetary denomination (1 kopeck) a consumer should buy a product, this product was a box of matches. In recent years, they also tried to do this, canceled the penny, left the ruble, the ruble could buy a box of matches, but it did not grow together, in many retail outlets the matches cost 2 rubles ...
              1. Nicholas C.
                Nicholas C. 23 March 2021 11: 36
                0
                It's funny how the Israeli-Bandera chutzpu is being promoted below. Note:
                1, The officially established minimum wage has no direct connection with people's real incomes. Otherwise, the workers would have fled from Russia to Ukraine, and not vice versa.
                2. The raised minimum wage has the following economic meaning: the government of jugglers and clowns in Ukraine has once again thrown the people away by raising the tax burden on business through the ministerial figure. More business will go into the shadows and jugglers will suck their paws even more.
                PS. Anyone who has intelligence understands this. Even Mikho the tie-expert has figured it out and is now talking about the government of the scammers.
                1. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 12: 16
                  +1
                  You are absolutely right. We're not doing well either, but not that serious.
                  The simplest indicator: I am offered a business trip to Moscow 55-60 tr. a month, but in my life I will not go, because in Orenburg I earn about 40k, and in Moscow they often throw it. But I don’t go to / from work, they drive to us, is such an indicator not quoted?
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon 23 March 2021 11: 54
                0
                Quote: Nikon OConor
                Yet we have a completely different food culture.

                "Big Mac Index" is a conventional unit. It has nothing to do with the gastronomic preferences of the population and is taken as a basis only because these McDonald's products are distributed all over the world. It's only about prices. And who eats what is a purely personal matter. hi
                1. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 13: 05
                  +1
                  and I welcome you! I know what the Big Mac index means, but this indicator is quoted in countries where more than 50% of the population eat this Big Mac. RF is definitely not among them, so it's better for us to create another index, though in what? In bread? is also not correct, tk. the difference is sometimes 50 rubles. between regions.
                  Big Mac in the US $ 2, if I'm not mistaken, how much do we have? (sorry I don’t go to McDonald's in principle).
                  1. gsev
                    gsev 24 March 2021 18: 37
                    0
                    Quote: Nikon OConor
                    so it's better for us to create another index though in what?

                    The Big Mac Index is popular because of the simplicity, speed and consistency of comparing the state of affairs in different countries. If we believe that it is not correct for Russia, then it is enough to enter a correction factor. If an accurate result is needed, it is necessary to conduct rigorous, complex and expensive scientific research and verify its results.
          4. Malyuta
            Malyuta 23 March 2021 11: 56
            +7
            Quote: Nikon OConor
            Orenburg region - a loaf of premium bread costs 20 - 24 rubles, i.e. about 25 - 30 cents,

            I am very sorry, in Aleksin, Tula region, 400 grams of decent bread can be bought for 70-80 rubles, which is 100 rubles a pound or 1,37 dollars. USA.
          5. Stas 2rep
            Stas 2rep 23 March 2021 18: 19
            +1
            In France, the price of a baguette is 1 €, which is approximately 3 times more expensive than in Russia.
            1. gsev
              gsev 24 March 2021 18: 42
              0
              Quote: Stas 2REP
              In France, the price of a baguette is 1 €, which is approximately 3 times more expensive than in Russia.

              It is difficult to draw conclusions about the state of affairs in the economy in terms of bread prices in Russia. Prices for this product are subject to government regulation. Politicians remember that the witty but tactless answer to the question of French housewives asked the French queen why there is no cheap bread in France cost the whole family of Marie Antoinette the severed heads.
        2. atalef
          atalef 23 March 2021 08: 20
          .
          Quote: nnm
          And the meaning of the comparison? Could you provide data on the share of EU subsidies for the Baltic countries?

          This is exactly nonsense, what does it have to do with subsidies and an incomprehensible type of owner?
          it is necessary to compare much simpler things. and not GDP per capita, of course, this reflects some average temperature in the hospital. but intended to calm people down.
          let's take a much simpler thing - the minimum wage, this is what you are guaranteed to be paid. and maybe the bulk of the robots in Ukraine and Russia are spinning around this or the minimum wage + + then let's compare
          Since September 1, the minimum wage in Ukraine has been increased from 4723 hryvnia to the mentioned five thousand hryvnia, which is equivalent to approximately $ 181... This is significantly less than in Lithuania ($ 723), Estonia (695) and Latvia (512). But at the same time, it is more not only than in Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan (24 and 37 dollars), but also than in Belarus (141), Azerbaijan (147), Russia (164) and Moldova (166)

          what is this talking about?
          About . that at comparable prices (although in Ukraine they are somewhat cheaper) - the average hard worker at the minimum wage earns one and a half thousand rubles more and therefore can afford more.
          By the way, this is about the vassals from the Baltic states.
          strange. but for some reason they have a minimum wage 5 times higher than that of the world hegemon.
          Think about it.
          1. nnm
            nnm 23 March 2021 08: 44
            +4
            This says only one thing - you operate with terms, figures without understanding their essence. Take the minimum wage example. Ok, you say that it is nominally higher in Ukraine. Have you compared the median average salary, for example? What about real disposable income? I will explain it using the simplest conditional example. The minimum salary in ukraine (translated into rubles) let it be 50 rubles, but 000% of the employees receive the minimum wage, minus the conditionally constant payments at insane utility rates of 70 and so on. As a result, the real disposable income will be 40. And, conventionally, in Russia the minimum wage is 000 rubles, and only 10% of the employed receive it, and minus the obligatory payments, the real disposable income will be 000 rubles. And it turns out that in the face value in Ukraine everything is super, but in reality the picture is completely opposite.
            Quote: atalef
            Think about it

            Perhaps you should follow this advice and explain why millions of people from Ukraine work in Russia, and not vice versa.
            1. atalef
              atalef 23 March 2021 08: 55
              -4
              Quote: nnm
              This says only one thing - you operate with terms, without understanding their essence.

              Temini will be operated by you. but the point is. that $ 20 in the Ukraine and in Russia is $ 20 and this is exactly the same amount. how much the minimum wage in Ukraine is higher than in Russia.
              Quote: nnm
              Take the minimum wage example. Ok, you say that it is nominally higher in Ukraine. Have you compared the median average salary, for example?

              average median - well, you are trying to hide from the fact - you are trying to compare your and Abromovich's average salary with the minimum wage 7
              you probably did not understand what it was about - the minimum wage is what you get GUARANTEED, and the average is that. what
              According to official data from Rosstat, the average income of the Russian population in 2020 was 35 361 ruble per month
              They pour it into your ears. You distinguish a divine gift from scrambled eggs.
              so a Ukrainian gets guaranteed 20 bucks more than a Russian - period.
              Quote: nnm
              I will explain with the simplest conditional example

              It’s strange. when they try to explain to you the fallacy of your judgments using the simplest examples, you refer to the official information
              Quote: nnm
              I don't specialize in speculation. I operate solely with facts

              so take away your speculation and operate exclusively with facts, otherwise, as in the old joke
              You either put on your panties or take off the cross.
              Quote: nnm
              And it turns out that in the face value in Ukraine everything is superb, but in reality the picture is completely opposite.

              Not great in Ukraine. but Russia did not go far from it either.

              Quote: nnm
              Perhaps you should follow this advice and explain why millions of people from Ukraine work in Russia, and not vice versa.

              Firstly . millions of Ukrainians have not been working in Russia for a long time. they work in Europe. Secondly . in Ukraine, Russians practically cannot work. maybe they are stupidly not allowed. and thirdly, labor migration is normal.
              But don't try to talk and evade. we talked about the minimum wage. so that's the question. why if everything is so bad in Ukraine. is it higher than in Russia?
              1. nnm
                nnm 23 March 2021 09: 40
                +4
                Colleague, do not blame me, but I will answer you for the last time on this topic, because, forgive me, but I have neither the time nor the desire to chew on elementary truths in economics to someone who, being not an expert in this area, simply does not want to study nor try to understand what they write to him:
                Quote: atalef
                Temini will be operated by you. but the point is. that $ 20 in the Ukraine and in Russia is $ 20 and this is exactly the same amount. how much the minimum wage in Ukraine is higher than in Russia.

                I will give an even simpler example. You live in Ukraine and get a minimum wage of $ 120, but pay $ 80 for a communal apartment. You have $ 40 left for your living. I live in Russia, I get a $ 100 minimum wage and give $ 50 for a communal apartment. Nominally, you get a larger salary, in real, disposable income I get more than you by 50 dollars. Do you think why the minimum wage was raised in Ukraine? Yes, only because this delta was immediately withdrawn from the pockets of citizens in the form of payments for the raised prices for the services of natural monopolies. There is nothing more behind this.
                Quote: atalef
                average median - well, you are trying to hide from the fact - you are trying to compare your and Abromovich's average salary with the minimum wage 7
                you probably did not understand what it was about - the minimum wage is what you get GUARANTEED, and the average is that. what

                - everything is so .... but exactly the opposite! the average salary is the average value between the salary of the janitor and the salary of Abramovich, and I am deliberately writing to you about the MEDIUM salary (after all, in the example, I even indicated the percentages so that they would understand the difference) - this is the salary that a large number of workers in the country receive.
                Simple figures for the median average nominal salary:
                RF - 34 (comparability of periods, approximately the same) - 335 rubles. ($ 34) https://rg.ru/335/460.2/2020/rosstat-rasskazal-o-raschete-mediannoj-zarplaty-k-kotoroj-priviazhut-mrot.html.
                Ukraine - 5 500 UAH (198,65 dollars) https://minfin.com.ua/2020/11/18/55790562/

                Have you compared? 460 and 198 !!! The difference is 2,3 times !!!! And where is your $ 20?

                Quote: atalef
                They pour it into your ears. You distinguish a divine gift from scrambled eggs.
                so a Ukrainian gets guaranteed 20 bucks more than a Russian - period.

                see above.

                Quote: atalef
                It’s strange. when they try to explain to you the fallacy of your judgments using the simplest examples, you refer to the official information

                - see above. Your example about $ 20 was analyzed in numbers. That's all that can be said about the quality of your "examples"


                Quote: atalef
                so take away your speculation and operate exclusively with facts, otherwise, as in the old joke
                You either put on your panties or take off the cross.

                -see above. Everything is in real terms. Both the cross and the linen are all right.

                Quote: atalef
                Not great in Ukraine. but Russia did not go far from it either.

                - by what indicator is that? Name at least one indicator by which Ukraine is at least somehow comparable to Russia? And I beg you - do not start writing nonsense about the minimum wage - I have laid out everything for you in numbers.

                Quote: atalef
                Firstly . millions of Ukrainians have not been working in Russia for a long time. they work in Europe. Secondly . in Ukraine, Russians practically cannot work. maybe they are stupidly not allowed. and thirdly, labor migration is normal.

                1.about 4 million Ukrainians worked in Russia as of 2020 https://riafan.ru/1269451-v-federacii-migrantov-nazvali-chislo-nakhodyashikhsya-na-zarabotkakh-v-rf-ukraincev
                2. Is it normal that the able-bodied population leaves for another country and stops paying taxes, contributions to the pension fund in Ukraine? Well ... colleague, I am afraid that with such an understanding of the economy, you and I are simply wasting our time on dialogue.

                For sim, dear colleague, let me take my leave hi
                1. gsev
                  gsev 24 March 2021 18: 56
                  0
                  Quote: nnm
                  someone who is not an expert in this area simply does not want to study or try to understand what they write to him:

                  Apparently everything is a little different. In Russia, in each region, the local government sets a minimum wage for businessmen for businessmen under which businessmen will not have problems with power above an acceptable level. For example, for Chinese firms about 5 years ago, this minimum wage was about 30 rubles. And the Chinese are afraid to pay less and pay more only for good reasons. Then in Ukraine there was complete freedom for business. And businessmen tried to pay workers about $ 000. As a result, a personnel shortage began in Ukraine. By raising the minimum wage, the government seeks to eliminate the problem of the outflow of workers from Ukraine. In Russia, it seems, they made a decision to borrow local labor resources. This can be achieved by making it difficult for migrant workers to come to Russia. For example, in some districts of the Ryazan region, businessmen hired all non-alcoholics. It is assumed that the beginning of the competition for workers will itself force the merchants to raise wages.
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon 23 March 2021 10: 39
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                the point is. that $ 20 in the Ukraine and in Russia is $ 20

                Then compare how much you can buy with that $ 20 here and here, and don't stop at just a loaf of bread and a sack of potatoes. Add at least the same communal apartment.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 23 March 2021 09: 12
              0
              Quote: nnm
              explain why millions of people from Ukraine work in Russia, and not vice versa.

              It's just that there is no work in Ukraine, jobs are being cut, and if there is work, then they pay less than in Russia.
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 23 March 2021 10: 39
                +16
                Quote: tihonmarine
                It's just that there is no work in Ukraine, jobs are being cut, and if there is work, then they pay less than in Russia.

                I am very sorry, but this is a very controversial thesis. Specifically, in the city of Aleksin, Tula region, work for 20 tr. it is necessary to search hard and at the current exchange rate it is 267 US dollars.
                Not a lot, right?
                1. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 11: 58
                  -1
                  for 20 tr. works in the Russian Federation mainly only young people (in stores) and cleaners / janitors.
                  If you want to make money not only for the refrigerator, you need a specialty that was not obtained in an educational institution, but worked out by hand.
                  1. Malyuta
                    Malyuta 23 March 2021 12: 07
                    +8
                    Quote: Nikon OConor
                    If you want to make money not only for the refrigerator, you need a specialty that was not obtained in an educational institution, but worked out by hand.

                    Do you offer everyone to knit socks or change the oil in a car, or maybe learn the sniper craft? I am very sorry, but I get the impression that you are delusional and are trying to drive the country into the 19th century with this nonsense. hi
                    1. Nikon OConor
                      Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 13: 18
                      +1
                      No, you misunderstood me, I guess. Two years ago I worked as a loader for 1000-1200 rubles a day. Then I mastered the specialty "plasterer-painter", now I earn about 1600 a day, I'm not a professional yet, I'm just learning. And knitting socks is also not bad))
                      With respect.
          2. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 23 March 2021 08: 45
            -3
            this makes no sense
          3. Nikon OConor
            Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 11: 43
            +1
            Interestingly ..., with the minimum salary of higher and lower prices, the people of Ukraine are starving ... but we live the norms for some reason?
            I am a builder, a handyman for interior decoration, give-bring-stop, earns 1000 rubles a day.
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 23 March 2021 12: 16
              +7
              Quote: Nikon OConor
              I am a builder, a handyman for interior decoration, give-bring-stop, earns 1000 rubles a day.

              Plastering garages?
              1. Nikon OConor
                Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 13: 22
                +2
                government purchases, schools, tax office buildings, etc.
              2. Nikon OConor
                Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 13: 24
                +1
                Garages are generally plastered?)) Who cares for them?))
            2. Incvizitor
              Incvizitor 23 March 2021 13: 16
              +1
              Out of 404, they did repairs to me about 100k in two weeks, they were paid for the work, they obviously did more repairs in parallel, if there are similar amounts, then about 400k a month and this is for one family how glad they are that they dumped out of there immediately after the collapse, the second apartment in the area buy ...
              1. Nikon OConor
                Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 20: 06
                0
                if it's not a secret how to do it, qualitatively Purely professional interest ..
        3. Malyuta
          Malyuta 23 March 2021 11: 53
          +10
          Quote: nnm
          And the meaning of the comparison? Could you provide data on the share of EU subsidies for the Baltic countries?

          I am very sorry and I want to ask the question, why are statistical indicators needed if the standard of living in any Finnish village is higher than the standard of living in the city of Orel?
          What the hell is the statistics, if we can buy the sky for that raw material in its monetary equivalent, which the Russian Federation exports annually?
          If we discard the verbal husk and statistical balancing act, then we must state that the population of Russia was robbed insolently and meanly, and that is typical to the applause of the robbed.
          1. Nikon OConor
            Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 20: 10
            +1
            Of course, Finland occupies the 1st place in the world in terms of area and you need to spend a lot of money on the development of territories, it has a huge industry, into which you need to pour a huge budget, it has a lot of enemies, and you need to pour 4% of GDP into the defense industry ... Or will you understand?
        4. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 23 March 2021 13: 08
          +1
          We ate like that for two in Barcelona, ​​ordered a piece of meat and beer for about 3k rubles each.
        5. torkonut
          torkonut 23 March 2021 15: 31
          0
          I agree with almost everything. but it seems to me that after all, the PPP GDP takes into account the price level
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 23 March 2021 07: 13
        +9
        In terms of GDP per capita for 2020, Ukraine remains the poorest country in Europe

        Perhaps, a photo in this perspective, taken at the All-Ukrainian Forum "Ukraine 30. Development of Justice" in Kiev, will most accurately reflect the state of affairs in the "Square".

        No Ukraine / Ukraine No



        Realizing that now Ukrainian-banderophiles will run up and write - "And in your DPR (LPR) it is even worse", I will immediately note that yes, we may not be very good, but everything is against the background of an armed invasion from the Bandera outskirts and a total blockade in all areas.

        And the Outskirts, despite the fact that they still do not stop pumping money in one way or another, remains a consumptive patient of the European Union, barely dragging their hooves.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 March 2021 09: 13
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          And the Outskirts, despite the fact that they still do not stop pumping money in one way or another, remains a consumptive patient of the European Union, barely dragging their hooves.

          The definition is very correct.
        2. Nikon OConor
          Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 12: 07
          +1
          brace yourself, judging by the news, there is very little left ... Then there will be a lot of blood, after we will come. Damn, of course, this should not be, but we all understand that the Russian Federation cannot officially enter the territory of another country. Politics ... ss "dog" ... no one has canceled it
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 23 March 2021 12: 14
            +11
            Quote: Nikon OConor
            Then there will be a lot of blood, after we will come. Damn, of course, this should not be, but we all understand that the Russian Federation cannot officially enter the territory of another country.

            I am very sorry, but what are you going to bring to the people of Ukraine? our oligarchs instead of theirs? our obscurantism? education? science? or our jumps, jerks and breakouts? our embezzlement? so they succeeded without us.
            So what are you going to give to the Ukrainians? Perhaps, Tajiks with Uzbeks, Putinism and the Rossiya bank.
            1. Nikon OConor
              Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 13: 31
              0
              we will not carry anything to the people of Ukraine, enough, we have already applied ...
              We will protect the citizens of the Russian Federation from genocide in a separate region. And try to challenge my thesis.
            2. Nikon OConor
              Nikon OConor 23 March 2021 13: 41
              +1
              so you don't bother ..:
              28 January. INTERFAX.RU - More than 400 thousand residents of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics have already received Russian citizenship under a simplified scheme, said State Duma deputy Andrei Kozenko.

              (c) https://www.interfax.ru/world/748310
        3. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 23 March 2021 13: 18
          +1
          pump up money in one way or another

          Not just money, but loans that their grandchildren will give back.
    2. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 23 March 2021 12: 29
      0
      "... at the end of 2020, the country remained in last place in Europe in terms of GDP per capita.
      ..."
      - mmllin - but at least the "lace panties" were given to them? !!
      Otherwise, they fought for something on the Maidan!
      Really it didn't grow together here ?!
      8-)))
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 23 March 2021 06: 16
    +2
    In terms of GDP per capita for 2020, Ukraine remains the poorest country in Europe

    Come on ..... and the population knows about it ???
    Look how cheerfully doing all sorts of arts, straight, straight, in the centers, their capitals.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 23 March 2021 07: 33
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      Come on ..... and the population knows about it ???
      Look how cheerfully doing all sorts of arts, straight, straight, in the centers, their capitals.

      Population-population strife. When some can barely make ends meet


      , others at this time rage, "doing arts" (photo at the office of the President of the Okrug).
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 March 2021 07: 38
        +2
        About those who are quietly silent ... what to say? Nothing more is said, everything is said.
        About those who rage ??? Probably they are not badly fed there either ... I don’t want to talk about them once again, the topic is not pleasant.
        A glance from a distance, nothing more.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 23 March 2021 07: 53
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          About those who rage ??? Probably they are not badly fed there either ... I don’t want to talk about them once again, the topic is not pleasant.


          But the theme of Nazism in the Outskirts, alas, cannot be hidden anywhere. It sticks out too clearly, as if some didn't try to portray that - "There is no Nazism in the Outskirts".

          Moreover, the Nazis are there untouchable.

          Can you imagine doing this with the building of the AP RF?



          And it's not about the fence, the Nazis, their permissiveness on the outskirts, no fence will hold back.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 March 2021 07: 57
            +2
            Street power ??? Ha, ha, ha! The power of those who feed that "street" contains and incites!
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 23 March 2021 08: 04
              +5
              Quote: rocket757
              Street power ??? Ha, ha, ha! The power of those who feed that "street" contains and incites!

              Yes yes and there is. You just need to understand that on the Outskirts there is "the power of the oligarchs", "the power of power" and "the power of Avakov", over which there is the power (without quotes) of the US Embassy in Kiev.

              By the way, Vazelinsky's office was smashed by Nazi groups controlled by the Minister of the Interior Avakov.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 23 March 2021 08: 09
                +2
                There is no doubt about the topmost roof.
                And so, if you recall the analogy - He gave birth to it (contributed), he will kill her ... and the top boss will write him an indulgence.
      2. sniperino
        sniperino 23 March 2021 11: 05
        -1
        Quote: Insurgent
        others at this time rage, "doing arts" (photo by the office of the President of the Okrug)
        They say that Zelya himself ordered this Natsik brawl at the office in order to increase his baseboard rating.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 23 March 2021 10: 42
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Look how cheerfully doing all sorts of arts, straight, straight, in the centers, their capitals.

      This is at an additional cost. laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 March 2021 11: 18
        0
        So they are already on complementary foods .. but there is no extra food.
  3. Ros 56
    Ros 56 23 March 2021 06: 18
    +4
    For what they jumped, they got it. They were told - do not indulge in nonsense, but they are the very same. And the smaller drop in GDP can be explained very simply, but there is nothing to fall, there is nothing to be proud of. Their GDP is scanty compared to developed countries, so the drop is correspondingly less.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 March 2021 09: 17
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      For what they jumped, they got it.

      Jumping dragonfly Summer red sang;
      I did not have time to look back
      As winter rolls into your eyes. Pure field has died;
      There are no days of those bright Bole
      How, under each leaf of it, both the table and the house were ready.
  4. apro
    apro 23 March 2021 06: 25
    -5
    As far as I understand, the big joy of the Russians is that they live worse in or in Ukraine ??? and in Russia it breaks all growth records ... prices. Bezrabottsy. Drop in income.
    I don’t understand. What is the joy. We are no different from them. In terms of degradation.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 23 March 2021 06: 29
      -1
      Quote: apro
      we are no different from them. in terms of degradation.

      Speak for yourself.
      1. apro
        apro 23 March 2021 06: 32
        .
        Quote: Mitroha
        Speak for yourself.

        And for myself, too. And for those around.
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 23 March 2021 06: 39
          +1
          Well, you think you are degrading. I do not think so.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 23 March 2021 07: 30
            +2
            Quote: Mitroha
            Well, you think you are degrading. I do not think so.

            Are you saying that industry is growing and developing in the Russian Federation, and the economy is showing unprecedented growth? Go to the store for groceries.
            1. Mitroha
              Mitroha 23 March 2021 07: 35
              -2
              I think yes, the industry is developing. You don't seem to think so. Well, that's great, there are already two opinions
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 23 March 2021 07: 56
            +3
            Quote: Mitroha
            Well, you think you are degrading. I do not think so.

            Even Rosstat thinks so. But the confused ones are again ahead of the rest!

            In our country, only oligarchs get rich in the fall and impoverishment. Are you one of them or just sing along?
            1. Mitroha
              Mitroha 23 March 2021 08: 43
              -2
              Quote: Stas157
              Are you one of them or just sing along?

              Well, "sing along", in this case you. I expressed my opinion.
              And besides the word confused, do you know what else? And then you shove him on business and not on business everywhere.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 23 March 2021 09: 09
                0
                Quote: Mitroha
                And besides the word confused do you know any more? And then you shove him on business and not on business everywhere.

                Is the title of honor already toxic for you?))
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 23 March 2021 10: 45
                  -5
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Is the title of honor already toxic for you?))

                  More like a teaser - ah, the younger group of kindergarten.
                  1. Stas157
                    Stas157 23 March 2021 13: 08
                    +3
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    More like a teaser - ah, the younger group of kindergarten.

                    Sorry, I didn't even think to offend you! You will propose yourself what to call you, that they are drowning for a thieving oligarchic power? I'm at a loss! So who are you?
          3. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 23 March 2021 13: 21
            -1
            I believe that it is degrading. lol
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 23 March 2021 06: 36
      +2
      Quote: apro
      As far as I understand. The great joy of the Russians. What is worse in Ukraine or in Ukraine ???

      Statement of fact. Do you have spontaneous flea markets in your city? The first sign of a poverty-stricken population.
      And in Kiev there is ... and not only in Kiev. No matter what they say, but the revolution of dignity got the population very hard.
      1. apro
        apro 23 March 2021 06: 56
        -8
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Do you have spontaneous flea markets in your city?

        This is an indicator ???
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 23 March 2021 07: 06
          +2
          Quote: apro
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Do you have spontaneous flea markets in your city?

          This is an indicator ???

          One of...
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 23 March 2021 07: 35
        +2
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Statement of fact. Do you have spontaneous flea markets in your city? The first sign of a poverty-stricken population.

        Look at how much the number of microfinance organizations in your city has increased over the year, this is the same indicator. We are also steadily going down, although it is too early to compare with Ukraine.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 23 March 2021 07: 52
          +1
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Look at how much the number of microfinance organizations in your city has increased over the year, this is the same indicator

          You write nonsense. And how much have they grown? The fact that advertising is everywhere pasted? They have already been properly "screwed in", and continue to tighten. Previously, these "microfinancers" worked underground and were covered by bandos. However, they did not give loans to alcoholics and drug addicts ... Technology has changed. Now this "market" has become no less criminal, but in a different way.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 23 March 2021 08: 02
            -4
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            You write nonsense. And how much have they grown?

            In my city, in quantitative terms, they doubled. Here are two good articles on the topic: https://www.interfax.ru/business/589605 https://www.raexpert.ru/researches/mfo/2019/
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Previously, these "microfinancers" worked underground and were covered by bandos. However, they did not give loans to alcoholics and drug addicts ...

            Do you think that some drug addicts and alcoholics take money there for food "before the paycheck"?
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 23 March 2021 10: 48
              -1
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              do they take money there for food "before the paycheck"?

              Yes, they do not take food there.
            2. Mountain shooter
              Mountain shooter 23 March 2021 10: 51
              0
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Do you think that some drug addicts and alcoholics take money there for food "before the paycheck"?

              These are from dose to bottle. Massively borrowing "for food" until payday - I have not met. Have your credit cards been canceled? There is even a grace period. Who do you have to be so that you can't get a credit card?
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 March 2021 09: 33
          +1
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          We are also steadily going down, although it is too early to compare with Ukraine.

          Let me disagree, no one has imposed sanctions on Ukraine so far, but on the contrary, Russia is being sanctioned for it, which now even imposes sanctions on toilet paper. But Russia is fighting and surviving, while Ukraine, without sanctions and with handouts from the West, is just dying.
      3. Stas157
        Stas157 23 March 2021 07: 52
        +2
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Do you have spontaneous flea markets in your city?

        They are prohibited here. But we have no less willing to trade. They are simply dispersed, werewolves in uniform. Although our people (grandmothers and simply disadvantaged) go for it not at all from a good life.

        I saw personally how it happens. Don't believe me? Try to go out and trade spontaneously!
      4. Insurgent
        Insurgent 23 March 2021 08: 27
        +3
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Statement of fact. Do you have spontaneous flea markets in your city? The first sign of a poverty-stricken population.
        And in Kiev there is ... and not only in Kiev. No matter what they say, but the revolution of dignity got the population very hard.


        Flea markets near the "Golden Gate of Kiev" - the capital's railway station. The plot with trash cans and flea markets at the end of the vidos (59:00), but for comparison, "there and there", you can watch the entire video.
        And look at how viral the two hundred Russian ruble bill (59:50) laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef 23 March 2021 08: 35
          -3
          Quote: Insurgent
          Flea markets at the "Golden Gate of Kiev" - the capital's railway station

          in general, flea markets are everywhere. I've seen them in almost all countries of the world. and in the United States they are just widespread (called garage sales) - in general, this does not reflect 100% of the economic condition of the population.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 23 March 2021 08: 46
            +5
            Quote: atalef

            in general, flea markets are everywhere. I've seen them in almost all countries of the world. and in the USA they are just common (called garage sales)

            Yes Yes yes That's for sure garage sale (how many pairs of slippers and other consumer goods accumulated in the garage) ...
            Not to mention the trade in food from the land, which is apparently also legal in all countries.

            And ... Rubbish bins at Tel Aviv train stations also look like they do in Kiev?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 23 March 2021 09: 49
              -1
              Quote: Insurgent
              And ... Rubbish bins at Tel Aviv train stations also look like they do in Kiev?

              And if you visited the former shipbuilding capital of the USSR - Nikolaev, then even with Kiev it is just a night.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 23 March 2021 09: 55
                +1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                And if you visited the former shipbuilding capital of the USSR - Nikolaev, then even with Kiev it is just a night.

                I was already during the war (it happened repeat ) visited Zaporozhye. The central street of Lenin, the neglect of the communal apartment, made a depressing impression.

                And this is against the background of the besieged and shelled Donetsk.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 23 March 2021 09: 41
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            and in the USA they are just common (called garage sales)

            Even worse than in Ukraine.
            1. tikhonov66
              tikhonov66 23 March 2021 12: 50
              +1
              "... and in the USA they are just common (called garage sales)
              ..."
              - that is a clear stump!
              In the USA, there are also plenty of beggars.
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 23 March 2021 12: 39
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          you can watch the whole video
          Thank you for the excursion! I was in Moscow 3 years ago, and in Kiev - 30 years. In Kiev, the roads were then better, more order and less dirt than now. Moscow is getting prettier.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 March 2021 09: 19
      +2
      Quote: apro
      As I understand it, the Russians are very happy. That in or in Ukraine they live worse?

      What a joy it can be to see a neighbor's foolishness. I want to cry.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 23 March 2021 10: 00
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: apro
        As I understand it, the Russians are very happy. That in or in Ukraine they live worse?

        What a joy it can be to see a neighbor's foolishness. I want to cry.


        Realizing at the same time that an insane neighbor, setting himself on fire, will burn you too ...
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 23 March 2021 12: 57
          0
          Under Yanukovych, there was less devastation, dirt and bullishness in Kiev, or also?
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    5. Andobor
      Andobor 23 March 2021 13: 09
      0
      Quote: apro
      we are no different from them. in terms of degradation

      With all the problems, the standard of living in Russia is several times, 3-4 times higher than in Ukraine,
      and if we have horror, horror, then what is there?
      Ukraine did not get out of the 90s, that's why they jumped so easily.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 23 March 2021 06: 25
    +15
    The second France did not work, as the people were promised in the late 80s and after the collapse of the USSR, just as new Switzerland, Germany, Saudi Arabia did not appear on the map of the former USSR.
    1. apro
      apro 23 March 2021 06: 31
      .
      Quote: parusnik
      Second France failed

      And what happened in Russia ???
      1. Pilot
        Pilot 23 March 2021 06: 38
        +3
        The difference is 0.5% .. statistical error crying
      2. parusnik
        parusnik 23 March 2021 06: 39
        +4
        And what happened in Russia ???
        after the collapse of the USSR, as well as did not appear on the map of the former USSR, new Switzerland, Germany, Saudi Arabia
      3. Mitroha
        Mitroha 23 March 2021 06: 41
        -1
        Quote: apro

        And what happened in Russia ???

        An article about Ukraine, you are trying to drag the Russian Federation here in every comment. What for?
        1. apro
          apro 23 March 2021 06: 51
          -1
          Quote: Mitroha
          An article about Ukraine, you are trying to drag the Russian Federation here in every comment. What for?

          Russia.Ukraine.Belorussia is one people.one state.
          I do not separate one from the other. And the problems are the same. And their solution is the same for everyone.
          1. nnm
            nnm 23 March 2021 07: 01
            +5
            Colleague, I don’t think that comparing the economic situation in Russia and Ukraine can put these countries on the same level in any way.
            Since you started talking a little higher about the unemployment rate, if you please: RF -5.9%, Ukraine - 9.7% (10% is considered a critical level). So let's not put our countries side by side.
            1. apro
              apro 23 March 2021 07: 07
              -9
              Quote: nnm
              So let's not put our countries side by side.

              Of course, the level of the raw materials segment in the economy is not comparable. And the level of incomes is slightly lower on average. What is it like ???
              1. nnm
                nnm 23 March 2021 07: 10
                +1
                I answered above about the level of income. And what about the commodity sector? Each country uses what it can. Or should we stop exporting hydrocarbons? Yes, we need to raise and increase production (although, rather, not in production, but in the tertiary sector we have a failure), but this does not mean that we still have to blame ourselves for exporting oil and gas.
                1. apro
                  apro 23 March 2021 07: 14
                  -5
                  Quote: nnm
                  And what about the commodity sector?

                  Yes, nothing. Only the income from this activity practically does not concern the Russians. And so yes we bloom.
                  Quote: nnm
                  Yes, we will raise production

                  From a series of good spells.
                  1. nnm
                    nnm 23 March 2021 07: 46
                    +2
                    As far as I understand, you are not familiar with the statistics of countries on the volume of industrial production?
                    1. apro
                      apro 23 March 2021 07: 48
                      -3
                      Quote: nnm
                      As far as I understand, you are not familiar with the statistics of countries on the volume of industrial production?

                      And you can trust it ??? and how to understand it. If entire industries are destroyed. And they are replaced by imports. And the collection of their foreign components is not industrial production.
                      1. nnm
                        nnm 23 March 2021 07: 58
                        +4
                        Just say - "yes, I am not familiar, and instead of opening the Internet and looking at the rating of countries in terms of industrial production, I would rather turn to demagoguery."
                      2. apro
                        apro 23 March 2021 08: 03
                        -4
                        Quote: nnm
                        I'd rather go to demagoguery "

                        As I understand it, you trust the figures from official sources.? I don’t. I don’t see the point. To discuss their Wishlist.
                        On the topic.the field of the coup in Kiev.the site buzzed.the economy of Ukraine collapsed.but 7 years have passed.and what ??? how the Russians traded and trade.as they drove and go.
                      3. nnm
                        nnm 23 March 2021 08: 33
                        +4
                        Quote: apro
                        .site buzzing. the economy of Ukraine collapse. but 7 years have passed. and what ???

                        Well, how can I tell you .... if the drop in the industrial production index from 107% to 60% is "nothing" for you, then I have nothing to add here.
                        https://index.minfin.com.ua/economy/index/industrial/
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 23 March 2021 08: 08
          +4
          Quote: nnm
          on the unemployment rate, if you please: RF -5.9%

          This figure does not reflect anything. In Russia there is hidden unemployment, which greatly exceeds the official one. Haven't you heard of this? I don't think so.
          1. nnm
            nnm 23 March 2021 08: 38
            +3
            I don't specialize in speculation. I am operating exclusively with facts. There is hidden unemployment in all countries: due to the termination of GPC contracts with individuals, due to non-registration with the employment service, etc. But when you are talking about numbers, then you should not pass off your lengthy judgments as facts. I do not like the statistics data, ok - give your CALCULATIONS, and not just an indirect statement.
            1. atalef
              atalef 23 March 2021 08: 39
              -4
              Quote: nnm
              But when you are talking about numbers, then you should not pass off your lengthy judgments as facts.

              Oh well . the fact is. that the minimum wage in Ukraine is 20 bucks higher than in Russia - your CEP move. hi
              1. nnm
                nnm 23 March 2021 08: 48
                +3
                I’ll just cite the answer given earlier from this thread: “Let's take the example of the minimum wage. Ok, you say that it is nominally higher in Ukraine. Have you compared the median average salary, for example? And the real disposable income? I will explain it with a simple conditional example. The minimum salary in ukraine (translated into rubles) let it be 50 rubles, but 000% of employees receive the minimum wage, minus the conditionally constant payments for insane utility rates 70, etc. As a result, the real disposable income will be 40. conditionally, in Russia the minimum wage is 000 rubles, and only 10% of the employed receive it, and minus the obligatory payments, the real disposable income will be 000 rubles. And it turns out that in the face value in Ukraine everything is super, but in reality the picture is completely opposite.
            2. Stas157
              Stas157 23 March 2021 09: 30
              0
              Quote: nnm
              I am operating purely facts.

              The fact is that most of the unemployed do not need this status of the unemployed in Russia at all. For this status, they pay so little and ask so much (community service) that people can sit without work for years, but they will never be tempted by the state handout. People with the highest are offered street sweep for the duration of this status, and the amount paid may simply exceed the cost of transport in search of work. Tell me more you didn't know about it!

              But in other countries, unemployment benefits exceed the Russian average wage. Many even prefer to live on this allowance and not work, which is not possible in Russia in principle. Therefore, in Russia, hidden unemployment many times morethan in such countries.
        3. atalef
          atalef 23 March 2021 08: 37
          -8
          Quote: nnm
          Since you spoke a little higher about the unemployment rate, if you please: RF -5.9%, Ukraine - 9.7% (10% is considered a critical level).

          10% is not a critical level.
          and the statistics are disingenuous
          With the advent of the coronavirus pandemic in Russia, in addition to 4,5 million unemployed, there were 4,9 million hidden unemployed, whom official statistics do not take into account in the workforce, the analytical service of the international audit and consulting network FinExpertiza found out. As a result, the real number of unemployed in Russia averaged over 9,3 million people in April-June, or 12% of the economically active population, which is twice the official figure. In some regions, the real unemployment rate has approached the catastrophic 40%.
          1. nnm
            nnm 23 March 2021 08: 51
            +5
            Quote: atalef
            found out the analytical service of the international audit and consulting network FinExpertiza.

            Sorry, but commenting on such verbiage is not serious. What data did they use, where are their calculations, their representativeness, etc.?
            The very first thing that comes to my mind when I see such "delights" is the simplest question - the sources of these calculations? Do they have some kind of access to global and hidden data? Well, it's simple - where did they get the numbers? And not once have I seen that the authors of such calculations would thoroughly explain how they got the initial data and how reliable and non-local they are.
            1. atalef
              atalef 23 March 2021 09: 08
              -7
              Quote: nnm
              Sorry, but commenting on such verbiage is not serious. What data did they use, where are their calculations, their representativeness, etc.?

              what data do you use?
              According to the UN, the poverty rate in Russia in 2020 is 2%
              https://nonews.co/directory/lists/countries/poverty-rate
              ACCORDING TO ROSSTAT DATA
              In the second quarter of this year, the number of citizens whose income was below the subsistence level (11 rubles) increased by 468 million people compared to the same period last year and amounted to 1,3 million, according to Rosstat. Thus, at the end of the first half of the year, the poor turned out to be 13,6% of all Russians - almost every seventh.

              PROBABLY NOW YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE BY ROSSTAT laughing
              Quote: nnm
              Do they have some kind of access to global and hidden data?

              And you ?
              Quote: nnm
              And not once have I seen that the authors of such calculations would thoroughly explain how they got the initial data and how reliable and non-local they are.

              You can't prove anything to you. To you a fact with a minimal salary - IIIIII?
              Swimming and mental delights began. And the fact is. that 20 bucks is a difference and it is significant.
              1. nnm
                nnm 23 March 2021 09: 46
                +1
                Colleague, I answered you in another thread. With examples, links, numbers.
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 23 March 2021 10: 31
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                You a fact with a minimum wage

                All that I see in my pocket is reality, but what they write about GDP, about different average salaries, this is all virtual unreality.
                By the way, in Estonia the minimum wage is 584 euros (gross), of which 500 euros is not subject to VAT.
    2. Black lotos
      Black lotos 23 March 2021 10: 17
      -1
      Quote: Mitroha
      Quote: apro

      And what happened in Russia ???

      An article about Ukraine, you are trying to drag the Russian Federation here in every comment. What for?

      in the article and RF
      Published data on the economic situation in Ukraine for 2020. The drop in Ukraine's GDP was about 4% in real terms. This is somewhat better than that of a number of countries on the European continent, but worse than the Russian indicator (about -3,5%)

      comparison was started by the author of the article
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 March 2021 10: 24
      0
      Quote: Mitroha
      you are trying to drag the Russian Federation here in every comment. What for?

      Something leads to thoughts unhealthy.
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 23 March 2021 10: 32
        0
        So it’s paid! Is it in vain that the "shining hail" allocates money? :))) So they poke everywhere :)))
    4. Andobor
      Andobor 23 March 2021 13: 12
      +1
      Quote: Mitroha
      An article about Ukraine, you are trying to drag the Russian Federation here in every comment. What for?

      Their job is like this - a lot of money is allocated for the fight against "Russian propaganda",
      - we see this loot, - there really is no other work in Ukraine. And Ukrainians know the language and are very cheap.
  6. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 23 March 2021 06: 44
    +2
    Quote: apro
    Quote: parusnik
    Second France failed

    And what happened in Russia ???

    And what about Rublevskie Shosse all over the Russian Federation? If you count, the aggregate will be more France. lol
    1. apro
      apro 23 March 2021 06: 52
      -6
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      And what about Rublevskie Shosse throughout the Russian Federation?

      Only to whom it belongs ... I'm afraid maybe France
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 23 March 2021 06: 57
        0
        Quote: apro
        Quote: Sovetskiy
        And what about Rublevskie Shosse throughout the Russian Federation?

        Only to whom it belongs ... I'm afraid maybe France

        laughing
        Capital is like that. lol Capital, worse than an ideological international, will be more international wink
        1. apro
          apro 23 March 2021 06: 58
          -7
          Quote: Sovetskiy
          Capital, worse than an ideological international, will be more international

          That's right.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 March 2021 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      And what about Rublevskie Shosse all over the Russian Federation? If you count, the aggregate will be more France.

      It will be less than France, but not less than Paris, that's for sure.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 23 March 2021 10: 19
    +2
    Quote: parusnik
    The second France did not work, as the people were promised in the late 80s and after the collapse of the USSR, just as new Switzerland, Germany, Saudi Arabia did not appear on the map of the former USSR.

    If a new USA and Canada did not appear on the territory of both Americas, then the USSR was not being destroyed so that the Ukrainian-Moldovan France and Switzerland would grow in that place, so that they would turn into Somalia.
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  • Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 23 March 2021 06: 39
    +2
    This is somewhat better than that of a number of countries on the European continent, but worse than the Russian indicator (about -3,5%).

    laughing
    Well, there, this is not for you! lol
    Not in every country Rosstat is transferred to the subordination of the Ministry of Economic Development.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 March 2021 06: 58
    +1
    the 4% drop in Ukraine's GDP does not correspond to the IMF data
    Not surprising, since lie constantly and in all directions. And if you listen to the Ukrainian experts invited to the Russian TV, the country just flourishes - the industry is working at full capacity, the fields are earing, the cattle from the fattened fat go to the transshipment, and the people are happy to dance. But at the same time, they do not hesitate to complain about the fact that the EU and the IMF for some reason (?) Delay the issuance of the promised loans and do not give the Ukrainians standing at the porch.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 23 March 2021 08: 12
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And if you listen to the Ukrainian experts invited to the Russian TV, the country simply flourishes - the industry is working at full capacity, the fields are earing, the cattle from the fattened fat go to the transshipment, and the people dance in circles with joy.

      So our TV experts are the same!
  • iouris
    iouris 23 March 2021 10: 25
    +2
    So what? This does not improve our situation.
  • dgonni
    dgonni 23 March 2021 10: 46
    0
    To understand the situation in terms of the Ukrainian economy, you just need to know one number. Almost 48% of GDP is shadow!
    Therefore, to collect taxes, the minimum wage is constantly raised.
    From January 1, it is 6000 UAH. Or 214 killed raccoons.
    And they will increase it further.
    Since it is easy to track an employee and, accordingly, taxes from him.
    Although in reality, in small-medium-sized businesses, people who receive the official minimum wage receive much more.
    Schemes when managers receive one and a half million. With a maximum taxable salary of 95 thousand. Typical situation.
    This money goes to workers in black cash.
    So all the calculations of Ukraine's GDP are like fortune-telling on the coffee grounds.
    Especially considering that half of GDP is in the shadow
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 23 March 2021 13: 02
    +1
    The fascist west continues to implement the OST plan.
  • NF68
    NF68 23 March 2021 16: 41
    +1
    Here it is, a bright future. It shone over the horizon like a copper basin.
  • Viktor Afanasev
    Viktor Afanasev 23 March 2021 17: 59
    +2
    The entire industry of Little Russia was aimed at (USSR) / Russia.
    Europe DOES NOT NEED ANYTHING from produced in Ukraine.
    What kind of development can there be, even hypothetically?
    Grain, a little, the Arabs and Africa will still buy. In Nikolaev, for example, there is a new Chinese grain terminal ... By the way, the Chinese do not mind buying old Soviet enterprises, but it looks like Zelensky the owners banned from selling something related to the military-industrial complex - to China ...
    So the government of Ukraine - it remains to sit at a broken trough and conjure over statistics, for internal propaganda ...
  • Xlor
    Xlor 24 March 2021 18: 24
    0
    Let the cakes jump, maybe the GDP will increase ...