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Exploitation of nostalgia for the USSR is the last resource of the Russian authorities

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After a few years, however, he will be exhausted, giving rise to inevitable problems


This week, a well-known political analyst Yevgeny Mishchenko presented a report in which he declared that the country was ruled by a certain “Politburo”, among which he referred to Vladimir Putin’s close associates - Dmitry Medvedev, Igor Sechin, Sergey Chemezov and many others.

The report aroused great interest, and not a statement of the fact that Putin has an environment, and the people included in it are extremely influential, much like the very word "Politburo". It seems that this word has a magical effect on the minds. Surely, being a member of the Politburo is also a pleasure for people from the inner circle of the president. The authority of this party organ was exceptionally great; a large fight was fought for membership in it in Soviet times.

It seems that our authorities again decided to play on nostalgia for the USSR. Just a couple of days after Mishchenko, the presidential plenipotentiary in the Ural district, Igor Kholmanskikh, initiated the revival of the title “Hero of Labor”. This title really existed in the days of Stalin. Then it was renamed “Hero of Socialist Labor” and in this form existed until the very end of the Soviet government, after which it was canceled.

So, familiar terms are returning to our lives - “Politburo”, “Hero of Labor”. The only problem is that they are only a chimera. The authorities are trying to use pro-Soviet nostalgia for their own benefit, in order to strengthen and legitimize their power, which staggered after mass rallies in Russian cities.

However, imitating the USSR, the authorities continue to build a system that has nothing in common with it. Get at least the title of "Hero of Labor." What was it for? Stalin wanted to create a "labor aristocracy", a kind of "Order of the Legion of Honor" of the most prominent figures of science, art and industry. Hence the introduction of the title “Hero of Labor”, as well as honorary titles like “People’s Artist” or “Honored Teacher”; In Soviet times, these titles were highly valued, and even today they have partially retained their weight.

But to whom is the title “Hero of Labor” given in our conditions? Abramovich, Potanin and Friedman? After all, we are the main "captains of industry" ... It's funny? Well, then, perhaps, to establish for them the title "People's Oligarch of the Russian Federation" or "Honored Oligarch"? More fun? Good. But then how will we award the title “Hero of Labor” to a worker who works in a private, capitalist factory? Would not such a “Hero of Labor” be the object of ridicule as a person who worked hard on an “uncle” (that is, on a private shareholder of the plant)?

If, however, to reward with this title only employees of state-owned factories, then we get a blatant injustice: the worse employees of private enterprises? In Soviet times, people worked for the state, and the criteria for awarding were clear: those who collected more bread or cooked steel became a good fellow. Now these criteria are ridiculous, because the economy is non-state in nature.

The same thing with the Politburo. We are told about the influence groups around Putin, but these influence groups are created by Putin and totally depend on him. Sechin and Chemezov are his friends and helpers. Dmitry Medvedev, although he was president, is also a former Putin aide.

Let me remind you that all members of the Soviet Politburo were considered equal. But what about the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, you ask? Formally, he stood below the Politburo and the Secretariat of the Central Committee. All official portraits of the Politburo about Brezhnev wrote like this: "A member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee, General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee." That is, his position as a member of the Politburo was formally higher than his post of Secretary General. In practice, of course, this was not the case. But the Secretary General was forced to rule, relying on the opinion of his colleagues on the Politburo, to reach agreement with them on the most important issues, sometimes to argue.

But today we have the domination of presidential power. There is no “collective leadership,” even a formal one, not even a trace. The members of the Mishchenko "Politburo" are influential insofar as they are close to Putin.

Let's give an example. Igor Sechin lost the post of Deputy Prime Minister for the Fuel and Energy Complex after the Cabinet of Ministers was headed by Dmitry Medvedev. The Sechin post was occupied by Arkady Dvorkovich, who immediately began to impose his own rules on the industry. Sechin was appointed president of Rosneft State, one of the largest corporations in the country. In this capacity, he, it would seem, should have been subordinated to Dvorkovich. But Sechin vkhozh to Putin. As a result, Putin issued a decree that created the presidential commission on the fuel and energy complex, in which Sechin took the post of executive secretary, thereby regaining all lost powers. Today, the influence of the former deputy chairman in the industry is no less than that of Dvorkovich, but rather much more ...

In short, the influence of the current "Politburo members" on 100% depends on their personal relationship with Putin. There is no collective leadership. Moreover, all the current "Politburo" was created by Putin and rests only on connections with him. If Putin likes to resign, all of his Politburo will fall with him.

So the similarity of the names should not deceive anyone. The current political and economic model of Russia is totally different from the Soviet one, therefore the introduction of names similar to the Soviet ones just misleads public opinion. The ruling elite uses the last resources to consolidate its power; what remains is its cult of Victory and nostalgia for the late USSR. In a few years, however, even this resource will burn. What will then justify their rule by people whose goal is to preserve the regime of total corruption as long as possible, incomprehensible to the mind.

Meanwhile, the state begins to crumble into pieces, and the scandals that shake Russian society are only part of the onset of the crisis process. It seems that the validity of the “raw empire” created by Putin in the zero years has expired, and the rulers have no new ideas. Except perhaps the ideas of fooling the public, which is brilliantly confirmed in the ideas of the "politburo" or the introduction of the title "Hero of Labor."
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  1. Romeohihnic
    Romeohihnic 25 August 2012 06: 51
    +15
    Studies by sociologists show: Soviet childhood is now in fashion. “I want to go back to the USSR. How good it was then - probably the best time in my life ”- more and more often this phrase can be heard not only from veterans, whose biography is tightly connected with the Soviet times, but also from those who are barely 30. People, who were 1991-13 years old in 15, they collectively collect Soviet films and exchange memories of their pioneering childhood. Nostalgia for the Soviet past is becoming common among thirty-year-olds.
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 25 August 2012 07: 36
      +6
      Born in 73 in 91 was 18. In Soviet childhood, I do not want, although there was a lot of right. At school, they were preparing for a future life, at the NVP, preparation for the service was real. But there was enough idiocy. Communist propaganda, in which no one believed, shortages, queues, wretchedness. It was well remembered how, starting from the fourth grade, every September we were chased for potatoes for two, three weeks, and more happened. Could send in the spring to sort out rotten potatoes in storage. In the summer months always worked in the field or greenhouses. At the same time, teachers could not answer my question why child labor is prohibited in the USSR, and we work for free for almost two months a year, often not until lunchtime, but from morning to evening. In general, the party leadership treated its citizens as means of production. Muscovites and Petersburgers probably did not see this, and the guys from the province, especially the rural ones, got it.
      1. Mikado
        Mikado 25 August 2012 08: 02
        +12
        Well, it’s you who have already found a crumbling state, with traitors at the top
      2. Normal
        Normal 25 August 2012 08: 15
        +4
        Quote: sergey32
        Muscovites and Petersburgers probably did not see this, and the guys from the province, especially the rural ones, got it.
        No, Sergey, everyone got it. We, rural people, studied for the first two weeks of September, and then for harvesting until mid-October. City workers worked out in the summer, on vacation, weeding beets. It was called "labor and rest camp" and we did not envy them. In the heat, in the sun, upside down all day, and we passed them on to the Moskva River ... smile
        1. lewerlin53rus
          lewerlin53rus 25 August 2012 08: 37
          +7
          Quote: Normal
          It was called "labor and rest camp"

          I called it "no rest labor camp." When I was in the USSR, when I entered the 9th grade in 1987 in such a camp, weeding beets, I earned myself the first Sonata-216 tape recorder, (who remembers such smile ) And the next year, already in the 10th grade, they simply kicked me out of this camp, (I took this beetroot along with midges and horseflies). But I still had to work out on vacation, however, already at the school itself it was undergoing repairs, painting, dragging desks, etc.
          And some nostalgia for the USSR is not a consequence of some kind of purposeful policy, but simply people who found Soviet times remember that stability, the power of the state. Anyway, everyone was younger then, 20-25 years old.
          1. Set
            Set 25 August 2012 13: 00
            +3
            I harvested carrots every September on the state farm. I never went to the labor camp. He worked four hours a day at construction sites. In 1987 he bought a "Romantic-306" tape recorder for 200 rubles and a telephone with buttons VEF (steepness) for 80 rubles. and this for 6 weeks of work as a handyman.
            1. lewerlin53rus
              lewerlin53rus 26 August 2012 01: 42
              +1
              Quote: CeT
              tape recorder "Romantic-306"

              There are two tape recorders-Romantic and Panasonic.
              Panasonic boasts: I have a new cassette- called TDK!
              Romantic: Let me chew!
              wink fellow
              1. M. Peter
                M. Peter 27 August 2012 14: 27
                0
                But what kind of unkillable mafon was it, you probably could even dip it into the water? smile
                1. Normal
                  Normal 27 August 2012 23: 19
                  -1
                  Quote: M.Pyotr

                  But what an unkillable mafon was, it probably could even be dipped in water

                  I don’t know about water, but they certainly could fight. The corps is metal, probably from the army walkie-talkie. And even the cassette that was included was not made of plastic but of metal. wassat
          2. Normal
            Normal 25 August 2012 16: 44
            +2
            Quote: lewerlin53rus
            I called it "no rest labor camp."

            Yes, everyone called that. Only in our state farm they did not pay money for weeding. The accounting department believed that all the money earned by city schoolchildren went to food and the maintenance of this end ...., excuse me, "labor camps without rest"
            And yet. when the shift ended and they left, the girls cried. and then with the guys we were fighting on one side.
            Quote: lewerlin53rus
            some nostalgia for the USSR is not a consequence of some kind of purposeful policy, but simply people who found Soviet times remember that stability, the power of the state. Anyway, everyone was younger then, years on 20-25.

            This nostalgia, all the brightest that was in our youth and youth, is trying to take advantage of those who introduced a monopoly on power, who privatized the power itself.
      3. bairat
        bairat 25 August 2012 08: 17
        +1
        I don’t know how others have, we had something NVP. In the school garden, digging trenches in full profile, there was a mock tank for throwing grenades, a serious obstacle course. Voenruk approached the matter with his soul, I remember leaving for the holidays, he tells us: throw everything you see under your feet the bricks / bottles / clods of the earth, who in the fall will not throw a grenade very much. And it acted.
        Propaganda is yes, in newspapers there are only materials of congresses, speeches of the general secretary, turbidity in general. Well, the Soviet man was not lost; for lack of toilet paper, he used these newspapers for the second purpose.
        Workout, too, got, not only at school, in a pioneer camp laborers on collective farm fields. A friend from Uzbekistan said that they worked for 3-4 months on cotton picking, under slavish conditions.
        My father is 74 years old, he has seen everything, even he says that now he’s better off. You earn money, but there’s nothing to spend on. There is one furniture store, one television and radio station in a city of one million people, and even those are empty. Now it’s hard to imagine, but it’s probably already impossible for the young. Queues for groceries, for milk, a trip from the morning to the opening of the store, later everything is gone. Moreover, on all collective farms there were huge herds of cows, it is not clear where their milk and meat disappeared.
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 25 August 2012 09: 57
          +1
          All this went to other countries. Half the world as if not fed. My mother told me I bought shoes in Kabul. Some Italian thought, but it turned out ours, and so with a lot. Everything was just going to third countries.
          1. Slayer
            Slayer 25 August 2012 10: 37
            +8
            But there were no beggars, I always knew that you wouldn’t die of hunger, but right now how many beggars have divorced, in Russia every 6 families are poor or on the verge of poverty (probably this does not apply to Moscow). In the USSR, I was always confident in the future
            1. Alexey Prikazchikov
              Alexey Prikazchikov 25 August 2012 11: 36
              0
              In Russia, the poor are about 17 percent. By the way, this is less than in the USA. There they just introduced cards.
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 25 August 2012 12: 48
                +9
                Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
                In Russia, the poor are about 17 percent. By the way, this is less than in the USA. There they just introduced cards.


                The coupon system for the least protected groups has long been in place in the United States. Food cards are America’s usual social support tool. A food ticket is an electronic card, replenished monthly by the state from budgetary funds. On average, each person receives food stamps at $ 115 per month, and a family - at $ 255 a month.
                In 2010, the number of Americans receiving food stamps rose to a record 42,9 million
                My webpage
                1. esaul
                  esaul 25 August 2012 19: 13
                  0
                  Ascetic,

                  Stanislav, welcome. If possible, then - more specifically - who falls into the "least secure" category? And the fact that the number of such people in the states has grown exponentially - is it a confirmation of the decline in general welfare? I know that your answer (if any) will be reasoned and literate to perfection. And, I think, it will be useful for those who breathe in foreign life.
                  And, as for the article itself, in my opinion both the title and the message are not true. Nostalgia for the Union is exploited with might and main not by the current government, but by the opposition of this power, representing being in the Union as a popular print - elegant and carefree.
                  1. Normal
                    Normal 25 August 2012 22: 01
                    0
                    Quote: esaul
                    . The nostalgia for the Union is being exploited not by the current government, but by the opposition of that power,

                    Well, now it will begin about the swamp and orangery
              2. Slayer
                Slayer 25 August 2012 12: 52
                +1
                Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

                In Russia, the poor are about 17 percent. By the way, this is less than in the USA. There they just introduced cards.

                We have a different concept of poverty with them, they have poverty when you earn less than $ 500, we have poverty when there is absolutely nothing to eat))) we can say that 70% of the population are poor by their standards + they have a lot of support with the same cards unlike us
                1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                  Alexey Prikazchikov 25 August 2012 14: 58
                  +3
                  Yes, the question is, I think, not even in the salary, but because you can buy with the money you earned. And this is approximately equivalent to each other.
              3. rexby63
                rexby63 25 August 2012 15: 03
                +1
                By the way, you Democrats, and the states themselves, position them as the richest and most prosperous state. Russia, in your words, is the "upper volta".
            2. lewerlin53rus
              lewerlin53rus 26 August 2012 01: 48
              0
              Yes, most of these poor or alcoholics or parasites. And fuck you make them work even for a good salary. We in our village offered such a herd of jaws. And feeding every day from the belly and the salary of the norms was obtained. So they are in no way. It’s better at a city dump in shit will be picked, and not work like all normal people.
          2. Normal
            Normal 25 August 2012 17: 17
            +1
            Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

            All this went to other countries. Half the world as if not fed.

            Alexander, you should know how. Then you probably weren't there yet.
            And what happened to you? Were on the avatar so cool, wearing dark glasses. Direct GDP.
            And now...? Did you get very sick? And the epaulettes naked .... smile
            1. Alexey Prikazchikov
              Alexey Prikazchikov 25 August 2012 19: 49
              0
              Well, firstly, I told you my mother told me. She had to stay in Afghanistan for some time as a civilian specialist. Well, the fact is that this epaulet. so they reset me. Yes, there are some rats here. I’m not going to show a sidekick because I don’t want to revel.
          3. revnagan
            revnagan 25 August 2012 18: 43
            +1
            Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
            All this went to other countries. Half the world as if not fed. My mother told me I bought shoes in Kabul. Some Italian thought, but it turned out ours, and so with a lot. Everything was just going to third countries.

            Well, now we’re not feeding anyone. And where is all this abundance? No, about 2% of the population has everything, but the rest will have to wait.
            1. Alexey Prikazchikov
              Alexey Prikazchikov 25 August 2012 19: 46
              0
              Well, for example, we used to import grain and export it soon. Well this is one example. And n6e need to fool around, I beg you.
              1. bye
                bye 25 August 2012 19: 51
                0
                Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
                Well, for example, we used to import grain and export it soon.

                That is why we have united with Kazakhstan and we are also trying to interest Ukraine in the union. The three of us will be able to regulate prices on the grain market and be monopolists there with all the "gingerbread" from such a situation ... (wink)
              2. MI-AS-72
                MI-AS-72 25 August 2012 21: 17
                +1
                yeah, they imported it, ask your mother, she will tell you how collective farmers drowned grain in the rivers and spread rot in the elevators, well, they were free to Africa, and then they were naturally bought, since in the USSR no one was starving, and now in Russia there are about 2 million people starve, and starvation death is no longer a rarity. However, this was also the case in the Republic of Ingushetia, they fed whole Europe with grain, and their people were starving. so do not tell here about exporting a fairy tale. We have all eaten bread for a long time from flour, which is obtained from wheat, which went to livestock feed during the USSR.
                1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                  Alexey Prikazchikov 26 August 2012 10: 10
                  -1
                  Man you from an oak tree collapsed what deaths from hunger. Go to bed.
        2. survivor
          survivor 26 August 2012 20: 05
          +1
          I do not know. I am 73 years old, lived in the city of Tselinograd, Northern Kazakhstan. "There is one furniture store, one TV and radio per million city, and even those are empty. Now it is difficult to imagine, but for the young it is probably already impossible. Queues for groceries, for milk in the morning to the opening of the store, later everything, no. kolkhozes had huge herds of cows, it is not clear where their milk and meat went. "
          we certainly didn’t have this. shops were bursting with an abundance of products. there was everything: meat, and milk, and vegetables with fruits, and sausage, and sausages. the same situation in furniture stores, electronics stores. I remember how we bought the first color TV, and it turned out to be defective and immediately changed it to another, turned out to be married again and changed it again. and so 5-6 times. Yes, the quality of the goods was not up to par, but the goods were! the same with clothes and shoes! everything was. Every summer we went to Grozny to relatives and there I was surprised to see a shortage. but again, and sausage, and halva, and sorbet, were present in stores!
          so, a lot depended on those people who stood at the helm! everything was in Tselinograd, but not all and not always in neighboring cities (at least according to those who came to visit us)
          1. M. Peter
            M. Peter 27 August 2012 14: 32
            +1
            Quote: survivor
            Moreover, in all the collective farms there were huge herds of cows, it is not clear where their milk and meat went. "

            It was like that ...
            At one time in Buryatia, we did a lot of such things, the republic was animal husbandry.
            The famous stew in the whole Union, which we "Buryats" ourselves have not seen.
            In the 87th we went to Ukraine, they were already stunned. We have almost no queues, but in Ukraine nobody takes them, it lies on store shelves. It was so wild to see us.
            1. survivor
              survivor 27 August 2012 15: 54
              0
              in what ... what does this mean? the point is not that something was not there, but that the distribution system was not set up everywhere. like that, already in Rostov, I talked with my uncle alone. so he gave me a glass tea told about what happened in Novocherkask. there was a riot over the fact that nothing was in the stores. and this at a time when we had everything in Kazakhstan! I do not argue, I was small then and did not realize a lot, but I went to stores and saw the goods on the shelves myself. favorite place of pilgrimage was the electrical goods store "Medeo". By the way, there I bought the first remote control for the TV, for my father's birthday)))
      4. ughhh
        ughhh 25 August 2012 10: 38
        -2
        poor thing, not overworked?
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 25 August 2012 10: 57
          -1
          ughhh,
          No, I didn’t overwork, moreover, I learned to work for an adult, for real. But it was a shame when you are driven to work for free and no one asks for your consent, they also settled on a collective farm in barracks in almost cattle conditions.
          1. ughhh
            ughhh 25 August 2012 11: 41
            +4
            Quote: sergey32
            It was well remembered how, starting from the fourth grade, every September we were chased for potatoes for two, three weeks, and more

            ah-ah, for 2 whole weeks every year the students were forced to work. What rascals ...
            1. sergey32
              sergey32 25 August 2012 12: 04
              +1
              I don’t know, maybe you had two weeks, and we cumulatively got two months for the year, and the director of the state farm, who used free child labor every year, received for the high achievements of the hero of social labor.
              1. ughhh
                ughhh 25 August 2012 12: 24
                +3
                I don’t understand what does the money have to do with it? What a mania to measure all these filthy pieces of paper?

                But people grew up. Who in the team could find a common language and understand and understand how to get subordination. If you wanted, of course.
                Money came to the same free education as a result. Or do you think their collective farm directors abroad were pulled away?

                I often happen to subordinate young people 20-25 years old. They have to be raised as children, you know? It’s not a job to do, but to tell what is good and what is bad.

                Well, they raised a generation of gibberish, then what? Maybe they should not go to school, why strain? Also free!
                1. sergey32
                  sergey32 25 August 2012 12: 37
                  0
                  I agree with you that children need to be accustomed to work, but there is nothing wrong with the fact that the child will know the value of his work. Since 14, all my free time in the summer I worked as a concrete worker in the brigade along with older men, earned more than my parents, so it was a shame to work for free in the fall.
                  1. Slayer
                    Slayer 25 August 2012 12: 45
                    +1
                    sergey32 we can say that you practiced free education in the USSR, right now to get a child to school a tidy sum comes out, in those days we worked out our education this way + brought benefits to the country
                2. FiremanRS
                  FiremanRS 25 August 2012 12: 43
                  +7
                  I agree. But as for labor in the fields, guys, I can't say anything bad. Likewise, I sorted rotten potatoes in storage facilities and collected beets and potatoes and cabbage knee-deep in the mud. But it was fun, and by the way, I have never even had a runny nose during all this time! I don't know how it was there, but the teachers immediately explained everything to us. And I knew that the potatoes that we sorted out later in the store I would buy and eat. I will eat what I went through and it depended on me to eat rot or normal. I knew that I would eat fresh vegetables all year round in the school cafeteria for help in harvesting. So don't "la-la". Previously, people were judged by their actions, and not as now: by their annual income.
                3. Alexey Prikazchikov
                  Alexey Prikazchikov 25 August 2012 15: 00
                  0
                  And then these people did grow up as you said. The USSR was being brought down. So maybe the people were wrong? There were people under Stalin. Lizhbs spat blood from their territory to drive away the fascists. And these "people" were a bit difficult and they traded the whole empire for boh knows what.
            2. Ascetic
              Ascetic 25 August 2012 13: 01
              +6
              Quote: ughhh
              ah-ah, for 2 whole weeks every year the students were forced to work. What rascals ...


              Personally, I am a school camp for labor and rest in a collective farm barrack and as they say now "unskilled labor" on beetroot plantations I remember with nostalgia because I was young and clear as .... Uncle Vasin laughing
              My friend and I in the 8th grade remember independently getting a job at a state farm for a month .. it was hard, but then I earned money for a scarce Electronica cassette player with a wooden panel and proudly defiled with him along a flock of our beauties to the tunes of Boney M and Smokey. love
              1. Normal
                Normal 25 August 2012 17: 37
                +1
                Quote: Ascetic
                Personally, I am a school camp for labor and leisure in a collective farm hut

                Stanislav, and you are a normal guy, despite the marshal’s cardboard and some comments.
                Bonnie M and Smokey ... After all, there was a time ....
                Recently there was a meeting with classmates, 30 years after they graduated from school ... The toast "Thank you Comrade Brezhnev for our happy childhood" was accepted with a bang
      5. s1н7т
        s1н7т 25 August 2012 13: 46
        +11
        It's strange. We didn't have "potatoes" at school. Only its own school educational facilities. I will say more - in the military school, in the 2nd year, before being sent for potatoes, they asked - who does not want, a step forward. Those who did not want to go stayed at the school. Usually these were locals who had somewhere to go in the absence of an educational process. And Soviet childhood is just a fairy tale! Freedom and security, there are so many interesting things around! I could get into a passing dump truck in the morning and ride all day on all sorts of construction sites, in the evening they brought me back on a hitch - I was 6-7 years old. And the parents weren't worried. The key to the apartment lay under the rug, like everyone else. In the lower grades, the teacher came home to conduct additional classes if there were problems with studies. He was a member of the YUDPD, Green and Blue patrols (if anyone remembers what it is), they really went, scared the "bad guys". Without exception, the whole class consisted of sports. sections, I was engaged in acrobatics and high jumping, went to a chess club, traveled around the region to competitions. At the age of 17, I traveled by train from the North Caucasus to the Urals with 32 kopecks in my pocket. At 18 he worked for 110 rubles. from 9 to 15 o'clock - this money was enough for me for everything. At home there were 2 TVs (some kind of Photon, it seems, and an old Record-64), GDR carpets and dishes, a 3-room free apartment (for a family of 2 adults and 3 children), and most importantly - confidence in the future. Even without higher education it was possible to live a normal life - a neighbor was a welder, traveled to socialist countries, had 2 collectible 3-barrel Sauer guns. What was bad in the USSR for a normal person? I do not know. I saw cards / coupons in the 90th year - for vodka. And to hell with her! laughing My daughter has a completely different childhood. I am a little ashamed in front of her. I hope that at least grandchildren will live in such a beautiful country as the USSR was for me.
        1. Igarr
          Igarr 25 August 2012 14: 46
          +5
          Interesting you guys.
          Remember only who and how worked.
          Surely then, the thought occurred to you - some kind of nonsense!
          There is no child labor - but children work., The effectiveness of such labor is zero, or striving for such. The export of children to (here I need to clarify ... in Central Asia, where I came from - we were taken from the 7th grade to cotton ... well, to collect it, this cotton ... In Russia, I know - there were potatoes, beets, carrots .. like ..)) - the cost was clearly higher than the return on our child labor.
          ...
          If the children saw it. Did the organizers really not cut through the chip?
          So it was necessary. For something.
          ...
          To tell?
          Or did they themselves - made in the Soviet Union - slip through?
          ...
          The point, just something ... in PARTICIPATION!
          In connection with a huge, collective work.
          Where even ... a "widow's mite" - can cost much more than 108 tons of Stakhanov.
          We, young, young, snotty, were placed in conditions when the main thing was NADO Country.
          They did not create greenhouse conditions for us. We were simply confronted with a fact.
          And they looked. Who should have watched.
          Who on what much.
          ...
          And then they chose .... those who subsequently became Prokhorov, Potanin, Chubais, and the rest.
          ...
          Therefore, they are afraid of us.
          Because the children of historical Russia are terrible children. Children sharpened by IDEA.
          And not protoplasm.
          ...
          I’m standing on that.
          1. Slayer
            Slayer 25 August 2012 15: 48
            +1
            Quote: Igarr
            Because the children of historical Russia are terrible children. Children sharpened by IDEA.
            And not protoplasm.

            But now they are otdemakratizirovanny, polished brain television and magazines)))
          2. MI-AS-72
            MI-AS-72 25 August 2012 21: 22
            0
            In the modern world in Canada, for example, the labor education of children is an obligation to work for a month, and they do not complain regardless of the status of their parents, though mostly in shops and hospitals.
        2. valokordin
          valokordin 25 August 2012 20: 47
          +2
          Well done, that's right. I still remember under Stalin every year there was a decline in prices and People were confident in the future, were not afraid to go outside. There were 11 circles at school, where I was enrolled in everything, but not in all. He wanted to be a pioneer, a Komsomol member. What were the rulers, Komsomol meetings, where was democracy. Trading was denounced; speculation was a felony. And now it's all messed up.
      6. vezunchik
        vezunchik 25 August 2012 15: 50
        0
        Dear friend! And those who are in power now - who? Those former ....
        1. Igarr
          Igarr 25 August 2012 16: 07
          0
          So he wrote about that.
          We ... were the buds ...
          For ... some breeder ...
          ...
          To the breeder ... these buds ... really did not like.
          ...
          Whatever you want ... conspiracy theory ... clouding of the brain ...
          ..
          One thing is clear ... a promising methodology ... turned ... into manure.
        2. s1н7т
          s1н7т 25 August 2012 19: 35
          0
          I would correct - the worst of the former. Arthropods. There was such a word. I despise them. Miserable. But - the rich and in power. Union - minus that they did not come up with antidotes from such then.
        3. valokordin
          valokordin 25 August 2012 20: 49
          0
          lucky, and those who were uninhabited, like a fist Yeltsin.
      7. Galina
        Galina 25 August 2012 17: 26
        +8
        You know, after all, to whom that is sweet. Many only remembered some kind of bad complexes. But what then tormented you so much? Maybe you, as a boy then, were unhealthy and you couldn’t afford to collect or sort out potatoes? Now, you know, no one sends children to work anywhere, their childhood safe from any kind of joint work. They are protected from the need to do anything for free, even to clean up in the classroom (as was once done) in the order of priority. Better parents will pay for everything, and the aunt will come, sweep and wash. There are some remnants of a shovel (in your opinion) past: in the autumn to rake leaves, in winter snow, in spring to dig up the ground. But, I think, a couple of outraged statements by parents - and the situation will be corrected. Kids will not work. They are being prepared for higher office plankton labor.
        And we once went to harvest without much desire. But when they found themselves on the spot on the collective farm, then together they rejoiced, and dabbled, and did business, competing. You write "Communist propaganda in which no one believed," that is, it annoyed you. But not everyone did make a tragedy out of this. Many worked conscientiously and lived, finding joy in everyday life, art, who in what. And what makes children happy now, are they happy in their satiety? I don't see that.
      8. Averias
        Averias 26 August 2012 07: 28
        0
        Yeah, I remember the same trip to the potato. Damn, what a duty. Although there was more harm from us than to sense. Since we buried it more than collected. It was also depressed by the fact that not only had to take food with us, but also tools (pitchforks, shovels, buckets) and walked to the fields, but they were far from us. The lessons of history were still very successful, due to the inquisitiveness of my mind, after classes I went to the reading room and looked for confirmation of the words from the textbook. It almost always turned out that they were bastards. When he told the teacher why he was lying to us and tells us something that wasn’t there, he said - you’ll understand how to grow up. And then he ran to knock on the teacher’s. As a result, teachers' councils and a ban on visiting the library. And when I grew up and understood everything myself - this understanding did not arouse delight. Although there was a lot of good under the USSR, and most importantly, people were kinder.
  2. kush62
    kush62 25 August 2012 07: 11
    +3
    One authoritative (for whom) political scientist remembered the word of the Politburo and on this they have already muddied the waters. Another suggested introducing "Hero of Labor" and this is presented in the article as an already decided event. And my acquaintance dreams of winning a hundred million in the lottery, that's such a bastard and an aligarh. Let's condemn him too. They will not have time to fart at one end of the village, and already at the other end of the village they are shouting ... (crap).
    1. 1tankist
      1tankist 25 August 2012 09: 06
      +3
      Quote: kush62
      One authoritative (for whom) political scientist remembered the word of the Politburo and on this they have already muddied the waters. Another suggested introducing "Hero of Labor" and this is presented in the article as an already decided event.


      I support. Custom article. Author's minus negative , since it creates information noise from scratch. More specifically, in his article he tries to implement the principle of "divide and conquer". That is, citizens who have chosen power for themselves must first turn away from it, and then overthrow it.

      As they say, horseradish stop . Foreign agents will achieve the opposite effect.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 25 August 2012 14: 55
        0
        Alexander, I agree completely.
        Only I would specify, the author ..... how, uncle Hamlet, trying to pour poison into his ears under the sleep of reason (through the USSR).
        This was enough for me - ".. The authorities are trying to use the pro-Soviet nostalgia for their own good, in order to strengthen and legitimize their power, which has faltered after mass rallies in Russian cities."
        Either they reassure themselves, or they keep us for fools!
        Not to say - central and local authorities are two big differences.
        No, comrade ... flooded with lofty matters. Political scientist, Mlyn.
        Bullshit, crochet.
  3. makano
    makano 25 August 2012 07: 13
    +1
    Of course, one should not cling to someone else's glory. And the slogan that we defeated Napoleon sounds funny. Our rulers earned their bread by corruption. Now it remains to hang themselves with trinkets and completely devalue the feat of grandfathers. Holman apparently laurels of Ukrainian Bandera heroists are worried.
  4. crazyrom
    crazyrom 25 August 2012 07: 18
    +16
    I was 91 years old at 9, but I understood everything well enough to say now, really ordinary people (percent of the 80 population) were much better than now. I would certainly be worse, in the USSR I would never have had an 64 inch TV (which is now). But the people were better. Although if capitalism was correctly and accurately allowed into the USSR slowly, maybe everyone would be fine, and 64 TVs for those who make money on them ... who knows. But what you have done is definitely the worst case scenario.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 25 August 2012 08: 06
      +2
      How do you know that you wouldn't have such a TV? Because "at that time" in the USSR TV sets were in short supply? Well, in the USA "in those days" it is good if there was one TV set not a family.
    2. Kurdalagon
      Kurdalagon 25 August 2012 08: 13
      +13
      The question is not in abundance, here you come from a Western consumer point of view. Nostalgia for the USSR is a consent to exchange part of their freedoms and goods for a higher level of social justice, for confidence in their state, for a sense of pride at last ... By the way, I, too, was 9 years old in '91
    3. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 25 August 2012 08: 44
      +3
      I in 91 left on a demobilization with urgent. Therefore, I had to serve in two armies: Soviet and Russian. Moreover, the difference was striking. For six months, everything has changed. From politics to procurement. And mostly not for the better, especially procurement.
      1. pribolt
        pribolt 25 August 2012 09: 25
        +3
        I was 91 yards at 17 m and I entered, I was in my first year and I remember well the beginning of the collapse of the Cooperatives, prices ran up, video salons, V. Tsoi was very popular after death, but it seems to me that the time was better in the stagnant 80s, golden time may because the time of my childhood.
        1. Igarr
          Igarr 25 August 2012 15: 04
          +1
          We got ... damn it ... there would be a TV, there wouldn’t be.
          In those days there were "Birches" - where you could buy whatever your heart desires for currency.
          Even in various land Tashkent there was a store selling checks.
          And there was ... a commission type of trade, a buying type of trade.
          Who wanted Hitachi in 1985 ... then he had it. It was enough to go to the port city ... and buy. Or order.
          ...
          But ... how cool it was ... the iron curtain.
          ...
          Once in Palmas ... he suggested evaluating the golden ring of (his) Indian merchant. The ring was washed off by a fly. This is the year 1989. Whether it was long or short, standing firmly on my own, that I have a ring in the declaration - I achieved the return of the ring. (Well .... it really was in the declaration). By the way, knowledge of English helped.
          ..
          So we did not have time to start in Riga ... face control - as I was immediately asked to demonstrate - the ring. And if I do not mind - to pass for examination. And what would I protest, right?
          ...
          It was much more interesting to live in the Soviet Union. More exciting.
  5. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 25 August 2012 07: 23
    +8
    And why should we be afraid of the analogy with the USSR? A lot at that time was much more correct than seichas. What happens there at the top and how they say in the coloirs they will not tell us about it. What will work, it will be as it will be, with some changes with approaching the next election.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 25 August 2012 08: 09
      +3
      It is not analogies that should scare you, but the fact that under the guise of "good old" they are trying to sell you, don’t understand what.
      1. bairat
        bairat 25 August 2012 08: 25
        +3
        Yes, it’s clear what they are trying to do: they want the population to work for them for the idea, it would be much more convenient to steal in the conditions of the USSR than now, no rallies, internet and bulk to you.
  6. Delink
    Delink 25 August 2012 08: 00
    +4
    Everything has been worked out for years. And before, we fought for ideology. Now it is not in principle. And she is needed. Everything was built on it, developed. Without it, we come to the abyss of utopianism by leaps and bounds, from where we will then climb out for many years.
  7. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 25 August 2012 08: 21
    +7
    To call the Politburo a bunch of hang-thieves is cool, of course, but it still sounds offensive ...
    We remember the Politburo ...
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 25 August 2012 08: 40
      +2
      Quote: Brother Sarich
      We remember the Politburo ...

      Remember, remember! lol This is a nursing home that could put more than half the world in a knee-elbow position
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 25 August 2012 15: 25
        0
        So that's that .. joke, Eugene.
        The very elderly, who could only lick each other’s gums (shameful manner, in my opinion), couldn’t prove anything to anyone ... to prove / explain.
        There was ... a bunch of referents (managers, in the present, damn it). Which pussy these, the elderly, supported.
        So this ... cloud ... self-organized (believe?) - into the cloud .. truly / truth-loving - and muddied ... the first coup. Liked. Happened.
        Muddy - the second ...
        Muddy - the third ... with the White House.
        And after that, came the northern beast with valuable fur. To them.
        And to us.
        ...
        And then, like mushrooms .... flooded - Nemtsov, Amramovich, Kindersurprise, Prokhova, Potanin, Khodorkovsky ...
        After all, one and all, pikes, ... Komsomol leaders, Mlyn.
        Dwari!
  8. volcano
    volcano 25 August 2012 08: 24
    +4
    Well again

    To legitimize power ...... Yes, Putin really chose the majority. Far more legitimate.
    Mass rallies in Russian cities ....... as soon as not tired?
    The author ... well, people then look at the box .... A bunch of swamp oranges are mass protests?
    Enough can?
    1. 1tankist
      1tankist 25 August 2012 09: 11
      -3
      See at the root. I support.
    2. bairat
      bairat 25 August 2012 09: 23
      +7
      In some places, legitimacy reached 99.3 ... 99.4%.
    3. s1н7т
      s1н7т 25 August 2012 13: 12
      +3
      People are watching a zombie box. That is more correct.
    4. Alexander 1958
      Alexander 1958 25 August 2012 14: 43
      +2
      Good afternoon!
      In Ukraine, in the last election I voted for Yanukovych. Although, if you look from the side, a person with several convictions can’t connect two words, either in Russian or in Ukrainian .. And the funny thing (if this can cause laughter) is not the worst president! There were worse.
      Maybe Putin is good at you not because he is good, but because the rest are even worse ...?
      With uv. Alexander 1958
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 25 August 2012 19: 45
        +1
        No, Alexander, not like that. Long story. I have worked in more than one campaign in the elections in the Russian Federation, incl. on Putin and Co. - something needs to be eaten. The system of power, which includes the Central Executive Committee of the Russian Federation, is simply "charged". Zyuganov surrendered in 96, and new ones are not allowed to go. No choice. So they "choose" between poop and poop in a wrapper.
        1. Alexander 1958
          Alexander 1958 25 August 2012 22: 07
          0
          Good afternoon!
          Well, it’s like I’m about the same ... We choose the best of the worst because even the worst of the best do not miss .. winked
  9. 53-Sciborskiy
    53-Sciborskiy 25 August 2012 08: 26
    +5
    But who should be given the title “Hero of Labor” in our conditions? Abramovich, Potanin and Friedman? But besides these gentlemen, there are also scientists, outstanding designers, ordinary people with golden hands and a bright head. In my opinion, the author of the article did not drive there.
    1. 1tankist
      1tankist 25 August 2012 09: 16
      +2
      Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
      But besides these gentlemen, there are also scientists, outstanding designers, ordinary people with golden hands and a bright head. In my opinion, the author of the article did not drive there.


      The author’s task is different, namely, to cause dissatisfaction with the elected authorities, and then, with any luck, he will also call for barricades.

      In my opinion. Let the elected government work.
      1. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 25 August 2012 10: 05
        -1
        Quote: 1tankist
        The author’s task is different, namely, to cause dissatisfaction with the elected authorities, and then, with any luck, he will also call for barricades.
        ----- I agree with you 100%
        "Meanwhile, the state is beginning to crumble to pieces, and the scandals shaking Russian society are only part of the incipient crisis process. It seems that the" raw material empire "created by Putin in the XNUMXs has expired, and the rulers have no new ideas." ----- Aftar -Provocator ... custom article ..... one hundred minuses ...
  10. Serge
    Serge 25 August 2012 08: 28
    +2
    I agree. Ideology is a must !!!
  11. 53-Sciborskiy
    53-Sciborskiy 25 August 2012 08: 36
    0
    In Soviet times, people worked for the state, and the award criteria were clear: whoever collected the most bread or cooked steel - well done. Now these criteria are ridiculous, because the economy is non-state in nature. I don’t see any difference between work for the state and private owners. It turns out that you can work on a private trader through the sleeves, but you won’t work for so long. In fact, a person works for the good of the family and, as it does not sound pathetic, for the good of his homeland.
    1. the polar
      the polar 25 August 2012 09: 35
      +8
      "I don't see any difference between working for the state and a private owner."
      -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
      ----
      Of course, no difference.
      You will bend your hump at Deripaska. Deripaska will take out the profit you created for the "hillock" and bury it deeper.
      You will receive the title of "hero of labor" and an increased pension at the expense of the budget. ordinary taxpayers.

      So if you glue your eyes with a band-aid, then of course you will not see any difference.

      The article is correct, it illuminates the crisis of power and its corruption and colorist policy
      1. 53-Sciborskiy
        53-Sciborskiy 25 August 2012 16: 47
        0
        Quote: Polar
        You will receive the title of "hero of labor" and an increased pension at the expense of the budget. ordinary taxpayers.
        To protect your hump it’s better not to work at all. As for the titles, so they are to me in one place, but as for the others worthy, do not skimp. Regarding Deripaska and others like him, so let those who are supposed to take care of them.
    2. apro
      apro 25 August 2012 11: 07
      +4
      Looks like you 53-Sciborskiy didn’t work at all, work for a private trader is neither holidays nor an 8-hour working day for sick days and not salaries and bickering for every trifle. Stupidity said I worked as a welder in Soviet times and now the difference is depressing.
      1. 53-Sciborskiy
        53-Sciborskiy 25 August 2012 16: 08
        -1
        Quote: apro
        Looks like you 53-Sciborskiy didn’t work at all, work for a private trader is neither holidays nor an 8-hour working day for sick days and not salaries and bickering for every trifle. Stupidity said I worked as a welder in Soviet times and now the difference is depressing.
        I have been working since 17 years old, hello colleague! Free advice on how to convict anyone of stupidity, I advise you to strain your brains. In Soviet times, we worked for friendly regimes, for that guy, for the cash register of the CPSU, and now for the owner. Well, what's the difference. But the family and the country, even if not the same, remain.
      2. 53-Sciborskiy
        53-Sciborskiy 25 August 2012 16: 36
        0
        Quote: apro
        working for a private trader is neither a vacation nor an 8-hour working day for a sick day, and not a salary or squabble for every little thing. Stupidity said I worked as a welder in Soviet times and now the difference is depressing.
        I also work in a private enterprise: an 8-hour working day, full social services. package and vacation 43 business days. Once again, for me personally, there is no difference.
        1. apro
          apro 25 August 2012 17: 17
          0
          An exception to the rule confirms the rule. Do you live probably in a large city? in our town, the average salary is from 8-16 rubles, I work at a construction site, constant processing, payment is at a minimum, in some organizations they practice a fixed-term contract, they work for 2-6 months without holidays and there is a bare tariff. This was not the case with advice I worked for myself and there were more options to find a better place. Now we have trans oil; local workers are taking on 15 rubles shift workers from the West for 70 rubles.
  12. Normal
    Normal 25 August 2012 08: 43
    +11
    Yes, from the very beginning of the reign of VVP there was a stake on deception, lies, propaganda and substitution of concepts. I remember how the first Putinites came to the leadership of our farm; Crackling and gibberish with complete incompetence in everything. "We will not let the Motherland be plundered!" and immediately the scale of theft exceeded all reasonable limits. For 12 years everything in the village was destroyed; an outpatient clinic, shops, a kindergarten, a club with children's clubs and a library, a bathhouse, roads. The farm itself was closed by merging with another of the same profile, as a result, the garage, workshops, a working canteen, a laundry room, warehouses, a sawmill, an electrical workshop, and an office were closed and destroyed. And all this while talking about optimization and reconstruction.
    But they built a commercial elite housing for sale, putting everything on the old utilities and treatment facilities.
    Now the authorities are persistently promoting the idea that we are moving towards what was in the USSR and gradually draws analogies between Stalin and Putin.
    Nothing but an attempt to once again fool the population behind this is not worth it, as they began and continue.
  13. mechanic33
    mechanic33 25 August 2012 08: 45
    -6
    ..... The authorities are trying to use pro-Soviet nostalgia for their own benefit in order to strengthen and legitimize their power, which staggered after mass rallies in Russian cities ....

    Meanwhile, the state begins to crumble into pieces, and the scandals that shake Russian society are only part of the crisis process that is beginning. It seems that the suitability of the “raw empire” created by Putin in the zero years has expired, and the rulers have no new ideas.


    some verbiage, then reptilians rule their world, then underground dwarfs, or aliens from outer space, then quite seriously say that women have seized power and want to squeeze men from the light ... And everything is so beautifully presented, you will look and listen ...
    1. mechanic33
      mechanic33 25 August 2012 15: 34
      0
      Every anonymous commentary deserves contempt just because it is not signed.
      Dostoevsky. Demons.
  14. ward
    ward 25 August 2012 08: 52
    +1
    Well, the main problem is that together with the water the child is splashed out of the basin ... for some, it’s such a saying ... it was in the Czech Republic in the spring ... the concept of the velvet revolution came from there ... and what’s the most interesting thing you personally communicate ... everybody understands everything ... but how he got into a chair ... a fool a fool ...
  15. bddrus
    bddrus 25 August 2012 09: 05
    +3
    the politburo? But what about the slogans about "Putin the Tsar" and "Autocracy" ??? now about the "politburo" op will be?
    1. Normal
      Normal 25 August 2012 16: 25
      +1
      Quote: bddrus

      the politburo? But what about the slogans about "Putin-Tsar" and "Autocracy" ???

      Everything has its time. In general, in terms of ideology, the authorities have complete impotence, hence throwing and variability.
      They are simply looking for empire on what the population will lead, the people will want the tsar-priest, will the GDP be the tsar-priest. He wants the Politburo and the Secretary General - will be the GDP Secretary General.
  16. andrei332809
    andrei332809 25 August 2012 09: 16
    +2
    in the late 80s and 90s they scolded the Soviet government for buying grain abroad. in the 2000s, an economist spoke on a box, he said that the cost of a loaf of bread was 1p 20k, and was sold to the population for 20kop. the rest of the ruble was compensated by the state due to the sale of oil
    and then of course I remember with the nostalgia of the USSR. good country was
  17. darkman70
    darkman70 25 August 2012 09: 41
    0
    So the similarity of names should not deceive anyone. The current political and economic model of Russia is totally different from the Soviet one,

    Well ... the author discovered America.))
  18. klimpopov
    klimpopov 25 August 2012 10: 07
    +2
    Born in 86, my grandmother says that my Dad was born, there were coupons, I was born there were coupons, I have nothing to say about the Soviet, Dad is nostalgic, especially for the army. Childhood and youth passed in 90 - in the nineties I do not want to. I believe that there is no turning back, it is necessary to look back, but it is necessary to follow the path of the evolution of society, so there are no revivals of the monarchies, etc.
    Very disappointing for the current education - which is not IMHO ...
  19. apro
    apro 25 August 2012 10: 32
    +2
    Nostalgia for the USSR is understandable — stability and social justice are the strength of the Motherland. Respect for the country. Everyone says there is a shortage of coupons and in those days the refrigerator was closed from the ponka, milk could be eaten - now ???? The equipment was on the telephones of the tape recorder. now we have one china shoes for one season. Everyone worked and I could earn it; I got 16 for a month; I received 1000 rubles for repairs; though it’s kolyma, that’s money. The hero of labor amused the phrase if you assign a businessman a thief if you are a hard worker
  20. serge
    serge 25 August 2012 10: 36
    +10
    And what did the current government take from the USSR? Flag and internationalism with the suppression of the Russian people. All. There are also cries about how well we live and will live even better (which in Soviet times were partly true, not like today). And it would be necessary to take free housing, free medicine, free education, the right to work, the right to rest, a moral code, censorship in the media and articles of the Criminal Code for perverts and traitors.
  21. Apollo
    Apollo 25 August 2012 11: 13
    +4
    This is the first case on the forum in my practice when, the author (with a capital letter) Pavel Svyatenkov painted everything so clearly and competently that didn't even leave me a chance on the comments Not only the title but also the content of the article I really liked. As they say right in the bull's eye. It is a pity that I can not put 100 + !!! good
  22. Per se.
    Per se. 25 August 2012 12: 36
    +6
    There is a rule in chess that it is better to play with the wrong plan than without it at all. Nostalgia for the USSR is largely due to the fact that, in addition to stability, there was confidence in the future, thanks to a great goal, thanks to a lofty idea. You can argue here for a long time, remembering good and bad, but, in my opinion, the consumer society of "insects" has no future, and the death of the Soviet Union is not only our national tragedy of the collapse of a great country, but also a drama of a planetary scale that will haunt all of humanity. If it is not too late, the country needs a national idea, we need a lofty, spiritual goal. The long journey, as they say, begins with the first step, at least, the "Hero of Labor", a man who built ships or grew bread, and not used medicines in his factory.
  23. Mozart
    Mozart 25 August 2012 12: 48
    +4
    Good article. Let the author go very far, but the conclusion is correct. The task of the current government is only to maintain power. The country is like a cash cow. Nobody thinks about the future of the country and the people. At the helm random people, temporary workers. There will be oil at $ 60, the economy will fall apart like a house of cards.
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 25 August 2012 16: 20
      -2
      Yes, I did not see anything good in the article.
      The author did not live in the USSR. - This is my unique, born in 1959 citizen opinion.
      The article is distorted.
      That way, that way.
      Curly, in short, not an article.
      ...
      And if so .... then .... discuss the article ... - do not respect yourself. Not to mention ... concepts - for bastard.
    2. valokordin
      valokordin 25 August 2012 20: 58
      0
      Salieri - the article is harmful, maybe I did not understand but I liked your comment.
  24. understudy
    understudy 25 August 2012 12: 51
    +2
    On the topic ... In the Kuban, the title "Hero of Labor" has existed for ten years. Both "privates" and "generals" are awarded. "Generals", of course, maybe more.
    So, Mishchenko simply slammed Tkachev’s idea.
    _____________________________
    Quote: Per se.
    the death of the Soviet Union, not only our national tragedy of the collapse of a great country, but also a drama of a planetary scale, which will come across all of humanity

    Very capacious and accurate.
  25. tan0472
    tan0472 25 August 2012 13: 02
    +1
    I read the article - how the Echo of Moscow listened. The same words, the same thoughts.
    1. sergskak
      sergskak 25 August 2012 13: 48
      +3
      tan0472,
      In kind. It's the same dope-house. You wrote it right.
  26. bairat
    bairat 25 August 2012 13: 25
    +2
    Quote: ughhh
    Well, they raised a generation of gibberish, then what? Maybe they should not go to school, why strain? Also free!

    In the 80s, such blockheads were that the current guys compared to them good guys.
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 25 August 2012 15: 13
      +1
      That's for sure. Comparing classmates of my children and our generation. We were much tougher. They often fought, there were no computers, they hung around on the street. Even look at the photos, we were older. I ask the older daughters, are the boys fighting in the classroom? And why, they say, when you can find out with words. In the face they can’t give each other. Maybe I do not understand something in this life?
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 25 August 2012 15: 38
        +2
        Of course, of course not so ..
        At one time ... I was dumb ... I look at girlish preferences - Enchanted, or something, three fools ... they just do what they talk.
        Why are you watching this? - ... peaks-max-fex..solving problems without problems !!!!
        Call 911 and your percentage will increase by another ten !!!
        ...
        Our children are guided by what is displayed on the screen - by 90 percent.
        ..
        What faces, what seniority ... they are already starting to get used to the fact that there is no difference between a .. girl and a boy?!?!?!?!:!:.
        There - inside, here - outside !!!
        Yes, this is profanity, some kind.
        ...
        Oh .... faster to a new level, chtoli, rebirth. I do not have time, obviously.
  27. darkman70
    darkman70 25 August 2012 13: 29
    +4
    It is unlikely that other countries of the former Soviet of Deputies want to return back to the past!

    Yeah .... Especially Asians. Here they have a life now ... Like in paradise. With advice, they certainly lived much worse.))) Yes, and in all the republics, life has definitely become better. And most importantly, life is stable, good, people are confident in the future and a peaceful sky above their heads.)))
    And if according to the article, then the attempts of anti-Soviet power in Russia, the power of cosmopolitan oligarchs to use some Soviet symbols look simply ridiculous. People are far from so naive, now is not the end of 80's, brains are not so easy to powder.
    "Hero of capitalist labor" say "? ... Heh ...))
  28. Nechai
    Nechai 25 August 2012 15: 19
    +3
    “Take, for example, the title“ Hero of Labor. ”Why was it introduced? Stalin wanted to create a“ labor aristocracy ”(?!?!?!)
    Pavel, she is a working "aristocracy" has always been. The word worker should be understood as those who produce a product demanded by society by their labor. People were awarded for outstanding MERITS in work. Without dividing WHERE a person worked in the state or PRIVATE SECTOR of the economy. The private sector (of course not in the current interpretation) was significant. In some areas, reaching up to 40-70% of the total volume of manufactured products, this nomenclature. / For example, the "automatic machines" of the PPP were produced ONLY by PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS, and the state-owned enterprises continued to produce PCA / From 1956 to 1960, the private sector was destroyed. Just in time for the rapacious monetary reform of 1961.
    Before conducting such de-parallels, you would have figured out the beginning in the history of the issue (I understand that it is difficult to find honest materials). BUT it is impossible to right the word from time to time taldychit Trotskyist mutat!
  29. rexby63
    rexby63 25 August 2012 15: 40
    +3
    Svyatenkov, Pavel Vyacheslavovich, From 2004 to 2009 - an employee of the analytical department of the Institute of National Strategy, editor and regular author of the Political News Agency (APN).
    Institute of National Strategy - the brainchild of S. Belkovsky
    "And the Cossack is sent!"
    And you, gentlemen, commentators and seduced. Congratulations to you, having managed.
    By the way, the fact that current state ideologists pay attention to the past is not so bad. To take the best of the past, to use it wisely in the future, is it shameful?
    1. Owl
      Owl 25 August 2012 16: 28
      +4
      Took: Bureaucracy and Treasury. The best of what happened in the USSR hinders them (the authorities) and is dangerous for them. The diagnosis of "power" is the result of participation in the Olympiad.
  30. Owl
    Owl 25 August 2012 16: 26
    +1
    Now the majority of the able-bodied population of the country are people who turned out to be "not needed by their country." At the end of the 80s, under the banner of "perestroika and democratization", the education of young people (at the state level) was stopped, in the 90s and "zero" years, the "power" did not pay attention to caring for the population, it (the power) was busy dividing the Soviet legacy and the Power , now everything is going "by inertia", that is, nothing is being done.
    1. rexby63
      rexby63 25 August 2012 16: 49
      -1
      Not true. You are either an enemy or ... In Kostroma, a lot of attention is now being paid to the patriotic education of youth. Clubs that existed in the Union and focused on military-patriotic education are now united in a cadet corps. A whole boarding school has been allocated for the building. Another thing is that daddies with mothers are reluctant to give their children there. Is Putin also to blame for this? By the way. not their accountants identified?
      1. Alexander 1958
        Alexander 1958 25 August 2012 17: 56
        0
        Good afternoon!
        But what military-patriotic education in Kostroma is carried out on what examples? What do the kids say? Who are they given as an example? Pavel Korchagin, Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, Gagarin, or Abramovich, PUSSI RIOT, majors?
        With uv. Alexander 1958
        1. rexby63
          rexby63 26 August 2012 12: 14
          0
          The eldest son graduated from the naval cadet class. Several graduates of the Solovetsky Jung school live in Kostroma. Their life, I think, in itself is worthy of imitation. They regularly attended classes, communicated with the cadets. All this I tell from the words of my son.
          Regards, Kuchin Alexander, 1963
      2. Owl
        Owl 25 August 2012 18: 38
        0
        I took the Oath in 1986. He fought 1999-2001. I serve the Motherland, I was taught Patriotism in my family (my grandmother was alive, who was awarded two orders, my grandfathers died), in kindergarten, in school, in a military school. Now there is no patriotic education, at the state level, portraits of VVP and "teddy bear", images of the coat of arms and the flag have been hung in kindergartens, schools and all state institutions. This "patriotic education" ends.
        1. rexby63
          rexby63 26 August 2012 12: 21
          0
          I asked about the children, not about you. After all, apart from the state, every child has a father and mother who can say at any moment: "What is good and what is bad." For some reason, even in such a difficult time for society, there are guys for whom Motherland is not only a word. Where do they come from? Anyway - without reading your comments.
    2. rexby63
      rexby63 25 August 2012 17: 10
      +1
      Yes, I do not care about your minus. The fact that you do not answer in essence, once again convinces me that people like you, dissatisfied, are really either enemies or fools ..
  31. Kshatriy
    Kshatriy 25 August 2012 16: 34
    -1
    [quote = Kshatriy] ---- Aftar-Provocateur ... custom-made article ..... one hundred minuses ... [/ quot

    [quote = rexby63] And you, gentlemen, commentators and led. Congratulations to you, having done it. [/ Quote]

    Not all of them were fooled .......... [quote = Nechai -------] BUT it’s impossible to rightly speak the word from time to time with the Trotskyist mutate! -----
    [/ Quote]
    Not everyone......
    1. rexby63
      rexby63 25 August 2012 16: 51
      0
      So this is not bad. The bad thing is that there are those who still seduced. And there are a lot of them
  32. 916-th
    916-th 25 August 2012 16: 51
    +1
    The author made a rather small article, it looks like a small shot at a bear. On separate, unknown signs (Politburo, Hero of Labor) far-reaching parallels are drawn and profound conclusions are drawn about the crisis of modern power. The arguments "against the authorities" are not serious and are obviously artificially far-fetched.

    It is another matter if the author made an analytical comparison of two elites - the modern (oligarchs) and the Soviet stagnant-perestroika period (party-economic nomenclature). Then, perhaps, he would have discovered that in essence they are not very strong and differ from each other. How cannot a son be radically different from his father. Both there and there the leading motive of activity is power. She gave privileges and preferences to nomenclature, and money to oligarchs. The same eggs, only in profile.
    1. MI-AS-72
      MI-AS-72 25 August 2012 21: 34
      +2
      They differ and very much, the Soviet elite had privileges at the level of today's district judge. But in modern Russia there is no elite. Remember how the "friend" Brzezinski answered the question of a Russian journalist how he relates to our elite, he replied, where did you get the idea that this is your elite, this is our elite, its money, which is exported from Russia, and this is almost 500 billion. $ (Brzez said so) are working for us and we are their owners, so they are ours, and to consider them as your elite is your right and nothing more.
  33. ward
    ward 25 August 2012 16: 52
    +3
    I have a friend ... special super ... healthy as a bull ... but fifty years old ... and no one takes to work ... and how he becomes a hero of labor ...
  34. andrei332809
    andrei332809 25 August 2012 17: 46
    +2
    there is no future without the past. especially if the past is worthy of respect
  35. Alexander 1958
    Alexander 1958 25 August 2012 18: 19
    0
    For muggins
    In our past, there is a great country, friendship and mutual assistance of peoples, and common victory and labor success! , and in the present what ..? Struggle for foreign investment?
    And what can Poland offer as an example? If a huge external debt, the deployment of foreign missiles, the destruction of their own industry, strained relations with all neighbors, then this kind of good is not necessary - there are enough problems of your own ..
    With uv. Alexander 1958
  36. understudy
    understudy 25 August 2012 20: 22
    0
    Quote: andrei332809
    and you won’t tell me which book it is and who the author is?

    Duc, except for Rezun, "they" have no more authoritative authors.
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 25 August 2012 21: 03
      +1
      The understudy, these are held in high esteem. and kalugin and red and piebald, but something Ivashov rarely writes.
    2. andrei332809
      andrei332809 25 August 2012 22: 30
      +1
      understudy
      Well, you can’t eat shit all the time, sometimes you have to lick the honey too.
      let them venerate Yazvitsky, Pikul, Yana. The fiction writers of course, but many interesting thoughts wake up.
      they would still refer to Solzhenitsyn and this (who wrote there Chonkin) referred
  37. bask
    bask 25 August 2012 21: 14
    0
    In the CCC. there was a lot of good but a lot of bad. An entire generation has grown up .. In the alliance, everyone owed the party to the people, etc. The country was torn into specific princedoms. Kukuruznik Crimea gave. You need to remember to upgrade and ..
  38. Geokingxnumx
    Geokingxnumx 25 August 2012 22: 05
    -2
    blah blah blah
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbOfkc-Dglg&list=FL_yuU6Xn7gLO7B4imHLwnYQ&index=1
    56 & feature = plpp_video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sXodD2HcWY&feature=related
    soon will be colored)
    1. kush62
      kush62 26 August 2012 05: 41
      +1
      GEOKING95 (1) Yesterday, 22:05 PM -1
      blah blah blah

      Hear, this is now a new song or anthem of "independent" Georgia (I apologize to Georgia)
      1. Geokingxnumx
        Geokingxnumx 26 August 2012 11: 43
        0
        Quote: kush62
        Hear, this is now a new song or anthem of "independent" Georgia (I apologize to Georgia)

        I didn’t read the stats at all.
        I gave the news the sense that there will be a prime soldier’s father in color :)
        and we have a good anthem
  39. Oleg Rosskiyy
    Oleg Rosskiyy 25 August 2012 22: 37
    0
    The old songs of the oppositionists torn from the feeding trough, envy is a bad thing, will bring nothing good for our country.
  40. Alexander 1958
    Alexander 1958 25 August 2012 22: 41
    +5
    For
    Muggins pl
    I do not know the name of the book you are reading, but most likely it was published no earlier than 1990, which is written there is not difficult to imagine. Unfortunately, after Stalin, the leadership of the Union began to degenerate and was not able to propose and do something more or at least as great. like Stalin, all rulers began their activity by claiming that their predecessors were criminals.
    As for mutual assistance, if you don’t know in the USSR there were several terrible earthquakes in Tashkent, Spitak, and Dushanbe. During the earthquakes, the cities were completely destroyed. Where tens of thousands died, and in Dushanbe and Tashkent under a hundred thousand. People cannot be returned, but the cities have been completely restored. And not on credit from the IMF or WB, but simply because they lived in the same country. And do not take it for reproach, but Poland was also helped after the war, although a third of the country itself was in ruins. I want to offer you, for balance, to take an interest not only in the numbers of victims of the famine, which are actually 10 times smaller, but also in the help that the USSR provided to Poland after the war. I also want to offer you to imagine a disaster of this magnitude in Poland and who will help you and on what conditions and compare with how these issues were resolved in the USSR.
    Regarding the Russians who fought .. After 1943, the Wehrmacht held about 3 million people on the Eastern Front. and you want to say that a third were Russians? Do not retell nonsense! A latent civil war did not end in the country. The repression of 1937 is one of the manifestations of this war. And here Hitler, therefore, there were many who wanted to settle accounts with the Bolsheviks, but if there were 100000, no more And they mainly served in the West or carried security service. The facts of the transition of such units to the side of the Red Army in full force are known. I want to suggest you pay more attention to statistics. This, of course, is not as exciting as the books of Solzhenitsyn, but much more convincing.
    By the way, have you heard anything about the Holodomor in the United States in 1931-33? If not, I can offer a link and I will be grateful if you substantively prove that this is not so ..
    With uv. Alexander 1958
    1. rexby63
      rexby63 26 August 2012 20: 44
      0
      By the way, in my opinion, the origins of all civil wars lie on the other side of the border pillar
      1. Alexander 1958
        Alexander 1958 26 August 2012 22: 49
        0
        Good evening!
        Well, all - not all, but there is a grain of truth in this. At least without external intervention, everything would end faster and with less blood
        With uv. Alexander 1958
  41. Kshatriy
    Kshatriy 26 August 2012 00: 32
    +2
    "The cult of Victory and nostalgia for the late USSR. In a few years, however, even this resource will burn out. How then will people justify their rule, whose goal is to preserve the regime of total corruption as long as possible, is incomprehensible to the mind."
    The whole article is built on similar "revelations" about the existing reality .... in some ways I agree, in some I do not. Question -What to do ... and the author does not give an answer to this question .. (that's why he said above the article - minus) ........ let's look for the answer ourselves ...

    Main special operation ahead
    V.V Kvachkov
    Stalinist socialism in the 21st century
    "It seems that the" National project "to combat corruption at the first stage would have cost Stalin 30 rubles, based on the commercial cost of one cartridge for a machine gun at 000 rubles and the need to shoot the first thousand bribe-takers and embezzlers. Identification of thieves and other criminals in power now it's elementary! ........ Do you want and are ready to take over the management of the village, city, region and above? -Sit in a chair, put on the sensors and answer the questions (polygraph): "Do you steal? Do you take bribes? Are you committing adultery? Homosexual? Slandering others? Lying about yourself? ........ Within the next year, the authorities will be cleared ... ".

    Russian nationalism is a love of the Russian people ...
  42. Imperialist
    Imperialist 26 August 2012 02: 15
    +3
    It turns out that Putin created a raw material empire before Putin. I understand that in Russia there was a world-class industry that filled up the whole world with its goods and the evil Putin came and turned the country into a raw material empire.

    Russian magazines have enough memory for only two weeks.

    km.ru and that says it all
    1. kush62
      kush62 26 August 2012 05: 44
      +1
      Quote: Imperialist (3) Today, 02:15 AM 1

      Russian magazines have enough memory for only two weeks.

      From pay (handouts, grants, etc.) to pay
  43. Aleks28
    Aleks28 26 August 2012 20: 26
    -3
    In my opinion, a stupid and mediocre article fool