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RF IC: Ukraine is trying to revise the decisions of Nuremberg

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The Nuremberg Tribunal of the Nazis, also called the "Court stories”Ended 75 years ago. But some countries are still trying to reconsider his decisions.


About this in interview agency RIA News said the head of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, Alexander Bastrykin.

The acts of Nazi criminals during the Second World War have no statute of limitations, so their investigation is still ongoing. And although only a few of them survived, the identity of each of them, according to the head of the RF IC, should be established.

But in a number of foreign countries, in particular, in Ukraine, they are trying to revise the history of the war and the decisions of Nuremberg.

At the present time, unfortunately, we are witnessing attempts to present the history of the Great Patriotic War in a completely different form. We also see attempts, especially in the Baltic countries and in Ukraine, to present as heroes those who committed atrocious crimes against the civilian population without regard for the truth.

- notes Bastrykin.

He declares that the structure headed by him does not disregard these attempts to rehabilitate Nazism. For example, a criminal case was opened against Vladimir Vyatrovich, who previously held the post of head of the Ukrainian Institute of National Remembrance, who tried to whitewash the crimes of Nazi accomplices from the SS Galicia division.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 March 2021 11: 20
    +13
    Action is needed! Your own liquidation department, for the disposal of all sorts of waste a la vetrovich, anywhere in the world!
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 22 March 2021 11: 29
      +4
      Quote: Thrifty
      Its own liquidation department, for the disposal of all sorts of waste a la vetrovich, anywhere in the world!

      Yeah. On the French Riviera and in Monte Carlo, not even a department, but a whole management as a department with courtesans, and funding so that you can look for surviving Nazi criminals in the casino. Because:
      And although only a few of them survived, the identity of each of them, according to the head of the RF IC, should be established.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 22 March 2021 11: 51
      -17%
      Quote: Thrifty
      Own liquidation department

      Aren't you afraid that the SBU will have the same department? And will you be included in the list? Such acts are today called state terrorism with all the consequences.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 22 March 2021 12: 18
        +10
        a criminal case was opened against Vladimir Vyatrovich, who previously held the post of head of the Ukrainian Institute of National Memory, who tried to whitewash the crimes of Nazi accomplices from the SS Galicia division.


        One "Galicia" business will not do. The UK has a whole list of organizations on the outskirts that are classified as Nazi and extremist.

        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 22 March 2021 12: 38
          +9
          Quote: Insurgent
          One "Galicia" business will not do. The UK has a whole list of organizations on the outskirts that are classified as Nazi and extremist.

          Along the way, they are "quick" here too. A couple of ukronatsiks in your comments have already been marked with minuses.
      2. Thrifty
        Thrifty 22 March 2021 12: 26
        +8
        Sylvester - you need to work faster than the enemy, you need to beat ahead, and talk! !!
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 22 March 2021 15: 24
          -2
          Quote: Thrifty
          you need to work faster than the enemy, you need to beat ahead, and talk! !!

          It was necessary to think about it in 91 or, by the deadline, 2014. Now it's "grab your bags, the station is leaving"
          1. Looking for
            Looking for 22 March 2021 17: 07
            +2
            maybe you are right, time is lost. BUT !!! it's never too late to catch up.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 22 March 2021 17: 28
              -4
              Quote: Seeker
              it's never too late to catch up.

              There is no worse: wait and catch up. The window of opportunity has already become a window
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 22 March 2021 14: 18
        +4
        So they are already engaged in state terror against the leaders of Novorossiya.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 22 March 2021 15: 26
          -4
          Quote: Incvizitor
          against the leaders of Novorossiya are engaged.

          Is there an investigation and a court decision? Who killed Zakharchenko!
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 23 March 2021 00: 04
          +17
          Quote: Incvizitor
          So they are already engaged in state terror against the leaders of Novorossiya.

          We conducted our own investigation and found out: employees of his personal security, those whom he completely trusted, could have taken part in the murder of Alexander Zakharchenko.
          This investigation was helped by people from the Zakharchenko Protocol Service and local security officials, former and present, as well as employees of the Republican State Security Service (RGSO DNR - an analogue of the FSO), therefore there are a lot of references to sources in the text. And this is a compulsory measure related to the safety of those who shared information with us.
          Are there other versions?
          1. Sofa batyr
            Sofa batyr 23 March 2021 00: 23
            +4
            Quote: Overlock
            We conducted our own investigation and found out:


            "Who are "we ? What kind of structure?
      4. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 22 March 2021 14: 18
        +2
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: Thrifty
        Own liquidation department

        Aren't you afraid that the SBU will have the same department? And will you be included in the list? Such acts are today called state terrorism with all the consequences.

        It's you, be afraid of the IC of Russia!
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  2. rocket757
    rocket757 22 March 2021 11: 22
    +6
    For example, a criminal case was opened against Vladimir Vyatrovich

    The true history must be protected by any available methods and means.
    1. Your stranger
      Your stranger 22 March 2021 12: 12
      -20%
      First, it is necessary for the investigative committee to decide whether there is a God or not, as well as the Tsar, Father, a bloodsucker or a great martyr,
      Whatever happens so that for the alms of Valka Tereshkova, the State Duma will rank Lenin as a saint
    2. cniza
      cniza 22 March 2021 12: 40
      +6
      Quote: rocket757

      The true history must be protected by any available methods and means.


      And constantly, not periodically ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 March 2021 13: 03
        +5
        Yes, just miss it, then you won't find the ends.
        1. cniza
          cniza 22 March 2021 13: 12
          +6
          And that's what happened, but now we need to make up with leaps and bounds ...
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 22 March 2021 17: 29
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      The true history must be protected by any available methods and means.

      And do not rewrite ourselves
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 March 2021 18: 51
        +1
        Yes, there are enough of our own copyists !!!
  3. Avior
    Avior 22 March 2021 11: 25
    -1
    That's interesting.
    It is not clear from the article what specific decisions of the tribunal are trying to revise.
    The official results of World War II in Europe are recorded in several documents, the main of which are the Decisions of the Potsdam Conference and the Nuremberg Tribunal.
    It is not clear what exactly and who is trying to revise?
    1. Dimka75
      Dimka75 22 March 2021 11: 47
      -4
      It is not clear from the article what specific decisions of the tribunal are trying to reconsider

      In the above quote from Bastrykin, not a word about Nyurberg. The rest is thought out from the bow .., sorry, from the author.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 22 March 2021 11: 49
      +5
      Quote: Avior
      That's interesting.
      It is not clear from the article what specific decisions of the tribunal are trying to revise.

      You personally, so often act as a lawyer for the Bandera-outskirts, engaged in a project to revive Nazism, that really not understood - these are your beliefs, or misunderstanding through thoughtlessness ...
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 22 March 2021 13: 59
        -5
        But on the other hand, you are the accuser of the neighbors and there is a plug in every barrel! Even if there is no Dill, then you drag, and when you poke your nose, then immediately shout "guard" and you will see from the root causes to the side.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 22 March 2021 14: 03
          +8
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          But on the other hand, you are the accuser of the neighbors and there is a plug in every barrel! Even if there is no Dill, then you drag, and when you poke your nose, then immediately shout "guard" and you will see from the root causes to the side.


          Pan Leader, what kind of hysteria, right off the bat, from the first comment? Why are you so horny ??? Bandera - a like-minded person offended?

          In addition, on the fact of the presentation, highlighted in the text, it is necessary to provide evidence yes

          Do you have them?

          AND YES, I HAVE THE FULL RIGHT TO HATE THE BANDER.
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 22 March 2021 14: 10
            -5
            To fill your face. If you are quoting my early (several years ago) comments, then take the trouble to find the one in which I explained that in my Ukrainian relatives Bandera and Bandera will NEVER be called heroes. No matter what laws they pass and what streets get renamed. Do not be lazy, look through.
            Therefore, it is disgusting for me when you immediately start sprinkling everything around you from one word from Ukroin - Bandera!
            PS Evidence? Recently there was a message that at the exercises Italians on an Italian wheeled tank missed and hit the chicken coop. Someone remembered the cases in SA. You - immediately glued some kind of cobbled roller on your knee with an alleged Ukrop interception. Is there evidence that this is not a fake? And why ukropskie and not DNI?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 22 March 2021 14: 27
              +5
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              take the trouble to find the one in which I explained that in my Ukrainian relatives they will NEVER call Bandera and Bandera heroes.


              But at the same time, by your own confession, your dad welcomed the Maidan, which brought the Nazis to power, and calls the stadiums after Nazi criminals ... With this, how to be?


              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              PS Evidence? Recently it was reported that the Italians on the Italian wheeled tank missed and hit the chicken coop during the exercises. Someone remembered cases in CA... You - immediately glued some kind of cobbled roller on your knee with an alleged Ukrop interception. Is there evidence that this is not a fake? And why ukropskie and not DNI?


              fool Radio interception is not ukrop laughing and our laughing At least the terminology would be studied, a non-graduate of the outskirts of the military institute ...

              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              Someone remembered the cases in SA.


              You're lying, Leader. My comment was at the very beginning of the discussion, and was a response to the comment, but which video I attached as an illustration, you Indians should not be interested (quotes):


              Cowbra
              19 March 2021 15: 16
              +9
              If the owner is cunningly made, he will complain to the tolerasts. Like, the roosters were fired at)))
              Well, so, a typical example of an international trait - soldier sloppiness)))


              Insurgent

              19 March 2021 15: 23

              +6
              Quote: Cowbra
              If the owner is cunningly made, he will complain to the tolerasts. Like, the roosters were fired at)))
              Well, so, a typical example of an international trait - soldier sloppiness)))


              There is a special kind of slovenliness - not a desire to be exposed to fire, when it is better to pretend to be a fool fool fool than to be burned by the damned separatists of wassat.


              Leader, if you are trying to "prove" or "expose" something, then do it with your head, and not using what you are sitting on (chair) ...
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 22 March 2021 16: 20
                -10%
                Until you stop thinking in cliches and giving out propaganda speeches instead of logical conclusions, I see no point in communicating with you. It's good that you don't forget your native MOV. It will still come in handy for you - you will stand in the crowd of those who meet the Armed Forces of Ukraine and put your hand to your chest, muttering "not yet vierla" .... Look out among the incoming columns of Nazis and Bandera.
                But I will upset you - they will not be there ...
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 22 March 2021 17: 34
                  +5
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  It's good that you don't forget your native MOV. It will still come in handy for you - you will stand in the crowd of those who meet the Armed Forces of Ukraine and put your hand to your chest, muttering "not yet vierla" ... Look out among the entering columns of Nazis and Bandera.
                  But I'll upset you - they won't be there ..
                  .


                  Well, here is the Leader, and they bared their Bandera essence. Was it worth dodging -
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  I explained that in my Ukrainian relatives they will NEVER call Bandera and Bandera heroes.

                  who will believe you when in your imagination "there is no Nazism on the outskirts"?
                  1. The leader of the Redskins
                    The leader of the Redskins 22 March 2021 21: 34
                    -9
                    You have a VERY late ignition.
                    I have ALWAYS said that there is no Nazism or Fascism in Ukraine. Even in my article a year ago. However, if we consider the fascists and Nazis because of the idiots waving against the background of flags, making themselves swastika tattoos and walking torchlight processions, then they are everywhere.
                    It is worse when there are drugged, poorly educated people who do not distinguish the little things I have listed from the textbook concepts and stupidly repeat Solovyov.
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 23 March 2021 10: 18
                      +1
                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      You have a VERY late ignition.
                      I have ALWAYS said that there is no Nazism or Fascism in Ukraine. Even in my article a year ago.


                      Leader, you are a phenomenon, unique yes in terms of incorrect perception / interpretation of the written text IN YOUR FAVOR .

                      After all, the phrase: "who will believe you when in your idea "there is no Nazism on the outskirts"?"- otherwise like:"You will not be believed that you do not support Bandera", not readable request ...

                      But even here you were able to screw it on, wind it up ...
                  2. Overlock
                    Overlock 23 March 2021 00: 06
                    +17
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    who will believe you when in your idea "there is no Nazism on the outskirts"?

                    What about a Jewish president under the Nazis? Doesn't fit!
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 23 March 2021 00: 05
            +23
            Quote: Insurgent
            AND YES, I HAVE THE FULL RIGHT TO HATE THE BANDER.

            And not only you - every sane person has this right! The catch is who is Bandera?
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 23 March 2021 11: 30
              -4
              And here, just, everything is simple - this is who Pan Insurgent appointed Bandera / fascist / Nazi. That is what it is. Apparently you (as well as me) are already a koshovoy chieftain.
      2. Avior
        Avior 22 March 2021 15: 59
        -4
        You and I look at the problem radically differently. I want there to be peace and friendly relations between Russians and Ukrainians, but you are fanning the fire of enmity as much as possible.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 22 March 2021 17: 45
          +3
          Quote: Avior
          You and I look at the problem radically differently. I want there to be peace and friendly relations between Russians and Ukrainians, but you are fanning the fire of enmity as much as possible.

          Difference of views on the problem? Yes yes What's the problem? Nazism in the Outskirts.

          Do you want peace with the Outskirts? No problem yes I, too, would be glad to the world. But which Outskirts? The one that is now, Bandera, sharpening a rotten tooth on us, the DPR and LPR and on Russia?

          Or is it not like that in your opinion? And I'm lying that Outskirts are implementing a Nazi project, the Investigative Committee and others are lying?
          1. Avior
            Avior 22 March 2021 20: 10
            -1
            Yes, you are pouring propaganda cliches as if from a bucket, behind these clichés you can't see a person: ((
            The problem is simple: Russians and Ukrainians must live in peace and harmony. Which, unfortunately, is not perfect. And the problem cannot be solved by fanning enmity: ((...
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 23 March 2021 00: 09
              +18
              Quote: Avior
              The problem is simple: Russians and Ukrainians must live in peace and harmony. Which, unfortunately, is not perfect. And fanning enmity won't solve the problem

              Without a doubt! The more labels are put on everyone, the stronger the impact will be!
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          2. Igoresha
            Igoresha 22 March 2021 20: 33
            0
            I want peace and friendly relations between Russians and Ukrainians

            Shid and Zahid at once, egezh. Only on the conditions that I should,
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 23 March 2021 07: 22
              +4
              Quote: Igoresha
              Shid and Zahid at once, egezh. Only on the conditions that I should,


              Not to be in their language am !
              1. Igoresha
                Igoresha 23 March 2021 12: 09
                -1
                Not to be in their language
                in the LPR, by September 1, they decided on the Ukrainian language at school, from a class of 23 people as many as 1 mother "FOR" teaching it; + I personally heard at the stadium, kids about 8 years old were discussing the well-known TV plot of a joyful meeting of allegedly sick with covid under new sanzhary - "... and Ukrainians threw stones on buses "... that is, this child did not associate himself with the Ukrainian ... the process is going on)))
                + news to catch up, announcements in Lugansk are hanging - "help in obtaining maternity capital in the Russian Federation"
      3. Overlock
        Overlock 23 March 2021 00: 08
        +19
        Quote: Insurgent
        Bandera outskirts

        What kind of state is this? In your opinion, any villager of Ukraine is a Bandera and a Nazi?
    3. knn54
      knn54 22 March 2021 12: 21
      +1
      The author is wrong, the trouble is that in Nuremberg the Yankes and Co. did not condemn Nazism as such and even the Wehrmacht was not considered a criminal structure. After all, Nazism as a theory was generated by the Anglo-Saxons and was not alien to them, And the experience of the German Nazis is "relevant" today.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 22 March 2021 12: 46
        +3
        Quote: knn54
        The author is wrong, the trouble is that in Nuremberg the Yankes and Co. did not condemn Nazism as such and even the Wehrmacht was not considered a criminal structure. After all Nazism as a theory was generated by the Anglo-Saxons and was not alien to them, And the experience of the German Nazis is "relevant" today.
        I will say more.
        The Washington "war party" and the "Washington Regional Committee" have never had any conscience or shame!

        Not only did the US special services huddle and nurture Hitler himself and his party since 1923 and in 1933 brought him to power with the aim of Germany attacking the USSR, so the American and Anglo-Saxon "allies" already in 1945 not only graciously accepted German Nazis and war criminals prisoner, but also tried to form new offensive slogans from them to continue the war with the USSR after the 1945 Victory Day.
        Those German prisoners of war who did not want to fight anymore were sent by the Americans to concentration camps for German prisoners of war, in which about more than 1 million of them were destroyed from inhuman content - without bread, water, from diseases under the open sky.

        Washington did not dare to start fighting the Soviet Union again only because that the European population after WWII, for the most part, before the poisoning, was gulped by war and was against the continuation of the war as such. except for die-hard Nazis and war criminals. Here these Nazi personnel were taken overseas by the Anglo-Saxon Americans to the USA, Canada and Latin America out of consideration - what if they will come in handy for Washington again!
  4. prior
    prior 22 March 2021 11: 27
    +1
    A country that was not there at the time of the Nuremberg Tribunal wants to reconsider its decisions in 75 years ?! belay
    What is this if not a loss of common sense? fool
    1. nnm
      nnm 22 March 2021 11: 52
      +1
      Not. The verdict in the Nuremberg Trials has no statute of limitations. And from whether there was a country then or not, the verdict itself does not disappear.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 22 March 2021 11: 57
      +8
      Quote: prior
      A country that was not there at the time of the Nuremberg Tribunal wants to reconsider its decisions in 75 years ?! belay
      What is this if not a loss of common sense? fool


      List of states that voted in the UN General Assembly on the resolution against the glorification of Nazism in 2018.

      How did the Outskirts and the United States vote?

      1. Dimka75
        Dimka75 22 March 2021 12: 20
        -6
        How did the Outskirts and the United States vote?

        how did the LDNR vote? do you have your opinion?
        and not "Okraina", which is "not", but in which you have lived so painfully, apparently for many years, that you mention it in every message?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 22 March 2021 12: 29
          +8
          Quote: Dimka75
          how did the LDNR vote? do you have your opinion?

          There is an opinion, but we are not in the UN (yet). You didn't know that or are you acting like a fool?
          Quote: Dimka75
          and not "Okraina", which is "not", but in which you have apparently lived for many years?

          So what ? I have lived in the USSR for quite a few years. But I will not shed tears on the Outskirts, and I remember the loss of the Union with regret and grief.

          And YES ... What was the question for? Would you like to hurt somehow "unrecognized"? In vain, vain and wretched attempts yes
          For this "non-recognition" is surmountable, and the case of dill is worse than ever ...
          1. Dimka75
            Dimka75 22 March 2021 12: 38
            -3
            Quote: Insurgent
            and the case of dill is worse than ever.

            I didn’t even doubt it, and weirdly, we’ll finish on that
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 23 March 2021 00: 15
            +19
            Quote: Insurgent
            but we are not in the UN (yet)

            I want to upset you - and will not, alas! You are undoubtedly a patriot of your land, but ... Politics is cynical. I'm afraid that you and your like-minded friends are just being used in the dark. I'm afraid but I'm right request
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        1. Kronos
          Kronos 22 March 2021 19: 26
          0
          When Trumpists were persecuted in the United States after the elections or dissenting actors like Gina Carino, it is clear that there is no freedom of speech.
    3. Looking for
      Looking for 22 March 2021 17: 21
      -3
      When did you hear the concept of "legal successor"?
    4. Overlock
      Overlock 23 March 2021 00: 11
      +12
      Quote: prior
      A country that was not there at the time of the Nuremberg Tribunal wants to reconsider its decisions in 75 years ?!

      You know poorly the history of your country!
      The UN today includes 50 states that signed the Charter of the organization at a conference in San Francisco, held on June 26, 1945. Among them are also Ukraine and Belarus, which once entered there not as part of the USSR, but as independent units.
      1. Profiler
        Profiler 23 March 2021 04: 59
        +3
        Quote: Overlock
        Quote: prior
        A country that was not there at the time of the Nuremberg Tribunal wants to reconsider its decisions in 75 years ?!

        You know poorly the history of your country!
        The UN today includes 50 states that signed the Charter of the organization at a conference in San Francisco, held on June 26, 1945. Among them are also Ukraine and Belarus, which once entered there not as part of the USSR, but as independent units.

        And what is the connection between the history of the creation of the UN, the participation of the Ukrainian SSR in it and the decisions of the Nuremberg Tribunal?

        Aren't these different historical events with different legal consequences?
  5. taiga2018
    taiga2018 22 March 2021 11: 28
    0
    They've already reviewed it, Shukhevych and Bandera are heroes there ... Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation just woke up?
    1. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 22 March 2021 11: 32
      -2
      Was Shukhevych and Bandera recognized as criminals by the Nuremberg Tribunal?
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 22 March 2021 11: 35
        +4
        But weren't they recognized as accomplices of the Nazis, and the Nazis were recognized as criminals ... Or was the tribunal supposed to mention every petty, bastard bipod, every policeman and every Vlasov member?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 22 March 2021 11: 44
          -3
          Quote: taiga2018
          But aren't they recognized as accomplices of the Nazis, and the Nazis are recognized as criminals ...

          Even Bandera were not recognized as war criminals. View the decisions of the tribunal
          1. taiga2018
            taiga2018 22 March 2021 11: 50
            +1
            I am not talking about criminals, but about accomplices of criminals, and you cannot write every accomplice and even organization into the decision of the tribunal, but this does not mean that a person or organization ceases to be a criminal, at least for our country, which suffered the most from Nazism ...
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 22 March 2021 15: 31
              -2
              Quote: taiga2018
              about accomplices of criminals, and you cannot write every accomplice and even organization into the decision of the tribunal, but this does not mean that a person or organization ceases to be a criminal, at least for our country, which suffered the most from Nazism.

              Your thesis is correct, but there is a law. According to the law, the accomplices served time and left with a clear conscience.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 22 March 2021 11: 48
        -2
        Quote: forty-eighth
        Was Shukhevych and Bandera recognized as criminals?

        No
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 22 March 2021 11: 53
          +2
          Quote: Silvestr
          No

          And for you, as a citizen of Russia, are they personally criminals or not?
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 22 March 2021 15: 28
            -2
            Quote: taiga2018
            And for you, as a citizen of Russia, are they personally criminals or not?

            This is the prerogative of the court, isn't that what Putin says?
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 23 March 2021 00: 17
            +21
            Quote: taiga2018
            And for you, as a citizen of Russia, are they personally criminals or not?

            DO YOU always rely on emotions or on the law? Do you own ALL information on both sides of the confrontation, which allows you to draw OBJECTIVE conclusions?
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 22 March 2021 11: 47
      -1
      Quote: taiga2018
      .SK RF just woke up?

      What does it have to do with the citizens of a foreign state? How are his solutions implemented?
      And then ! If we are principled to the end, then on May 9, open the Mausoleum, bring in portraits of Stalin and the Marshals of Victory. And then somehow double standards are obtained
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 22 March 2021 11: 58
      +1
      there are heroes.
      What a concern for their heroes. Russia also has its own heroes, Solzhenitsyn, Gorbachev. Yeltsin. And there is no tribunal for them. And your grandchildren will be proud of these fighters against communism.
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 22 March 2021 12: 00
        -1
        Quote: Gardamir
        Solzhenitsyn, Gorbachev. Yeltsin.

        Putting these people and Bandera with Shukhevych on the same level is the same as putting communism and Nazism, Stalin and Hitler on the same level, as some "civilized comrades are trying to do ..."
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 22 March 2021 12: 19
          +3
          Put on one board
          do you think that Yeltsin is better than Shukhevych.? This is the first thing. Secondly. Why are these digging in history, when we, in our time, do what we want. If Ukraine has already been recognized as a foreign country, then maybe we will establish order in our country. And then it's a shame to tell the head of state in the taiga there is nothing to ride, I have to take an all-terrain vehicle in Sweden
          1. taiga2018
            taiga2018 22 March 2021 12: 37
            -5
            Quote: Gardamir
            Yeltsin is better than Shukhevych.?

            Better, no matter how anyone treats him, but this is the first, elected president of Russia, and putting him on the same level with the Nazi henchman is at least illiterate ...
            Quote: Gardamir
            so maybe we will restore order in our country

            A familiar song - let's not interfere with anything, let's spit on our national interests, but rather we will ask the Americans what they are, the national interests of Russia, and we will cook purely in our own cauldron and then aaa we will live ...
            Quote: Gardamir
            the head of state has nothing to ride in the taiga, forced to take an all-terrain vehicle in Sweden

            I don't give a damn what he rides on there, the main thing for me is that he rides in his taiga, and does not rest on the beaches of the Maldives, etc.
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 22 March 2021 17: 41
              -1
              illiterate.
              Yes, he is cooler than anyone, for the sake of power he destroyed the Great Country.
              A familiar song, let's not interfere with anything, let's spit on our national interests
              Are there interests within the country? And where has Russia intervened now. They just pretend to care about the past. Well, let the Ukrainians who propagandize Shukhevych be punished.
              I do not care
              All the same, sometimes think, so openly declare that you do not care about Russia ...
    4. Insurgent
      Insurgent 22 March 2021 12: 39
      +4
      Quote: taiga2018
      They've already reviewed it, Shukhevych and Bandera are heroes there ...Has the RF IC just woken up?


      Bureaucracy and red tape in all its glory yes
  6. Alien From
    Alien From 22 March 2021 11: 30
    +1
    It's hard to disagree with you!
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 22 March 2021 11: 40
    +1
    Ukraine needs to share reparations with the Germans?
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 March 2021 11: 45
    +7
    We look at Ukraine and understand. Under the nose, the young punks have already committed the third act of vandalism to the monuments of the Second World War in a week. It is necessary to change the Criminal Code, for such crimes the age limit to be removed to show the process on air. And finally, catch who is in charge of these youngsters. May 9 is already close. ...
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 22 March 2021 12: 15
      0
      And the state needs to monitor its creative elites so that films like On Paris and other Bastards do not appear.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 22 March 2021 12: 31
        +4
        With this I completely agree, it is not possible to watch modern films about the Second World War, with very rare exceptions. The degradation of cinema on the face. The script of the Bastards was written by the same person who wrote the script for the Chronicle of a dive bomber. The man is one and the films are different.
  9. Diviz
    Diviz 22 March 2021 11: 57
    0
    The capital of Ukraine was Kharkov.
    And then continue on your own.
  10. nnm
    nnm 22 March 2021 11: 58
    -1
    I may be wrong, but in one story in which international lawyers spoke, it was said that according to the decisions of Nuremberg (which of the processes I will not tell you any more), any country has the right to conduct, incl. and by military means, denazification in the event of the emergence of Nazism on the territory of another state. Perhaps this is the reason for Bastrykin's words - the preparation of grounds, materials for forcing Ukraine to peace (if necessary).
    1. Avior
      Avior 22 March 2021 15: 50
      +1
      I think you are wrong - or whoever said it.
      The Tribunal made such a decision, and it could not have accepted such powers, it specifically considered the guilt of the highest German administration.
      It would be too convenient to start a war - declared another country a Nazi and you can go to war.
      Such a decision would fundamentally contradict the Convention on the Definition of Aggression and the UN decision on the same topic, the definition of who is the aggressor.
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 23 March 2021 00: 19
      +12
      Quote: nnm
      preparation of grounds, materials for forcing Ukraine to peace

      those. full-scale war?
  11. AnAtoly47
    AnAtoly47 22 March 2021 12: 04
    +3
    Today is the year of sucking the Belarusian village of KHATYN !!! UKRAINIAN U ……… BKI participated in this. And what, they FORGIVE THIS?
    1. Mikhail Malakhov_2
      Mikhail Malakhov_2 22 March 2021 12: 15
      -2
      In no case..
      Urgently find out where they are buried and ... well, there you yourself will come up with something
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 22 March 2021 12: 23
      0
      Today is the year of sucking
      Maintaining your righteous anger. I'd like to note. that this is a tragedy for the entire Soviet people. But in Federal Russia, they may not even remember.
    3. Your stranger
      Your stranger 22 March 2021 12: 27
      -4
      Khatyn (possibly from Belorussian khata - house) is a village in Belarus, destroyed on March 22, 1943 by a punitive detachment as revenge for the murder of several German servicemen [1]. In accordance with the principle of collective punishment, 149 residents of Khatyn were burned alive or shot by the German army and the auxiliary police battalion [2] for the possible assistance of the villagers to the partisans [3]. The 118th Schutzmannschaft battalion and the special SS battalion "Dirlewanger" [4] took part in the punitive operation.
      From the end of 1941 to the beginning of 1942, the Germans deployed the formation of numerous security and police units in the occupied territories of the USSR, the main contingent of which were local residents and Soviet prisoners of war. One of these auxiliary units was the 118th security battalion, whose manning began in the spring of 1942 in Kiev. In the first 2 companies, they recruited former Red Army men, immigrants mainly from the eastern regions of the Ukrainian SSR, who, on the eve of the war, completed accelerated courses for officer training, were captured and agreed to serve in the police.
      The recruitment of the police unit continued in the summer. In June, the 3rd company of the 115th battalion of Schutzmanschaft was added to it, which, as a result of this structural reorganization, became the first company in the 118th. Its soldiers had previously served in the Bukovyna kuren, a paramilitary unit of the Melnikovites, whose members arrived in Kiev in the fall of 1941 and joined the creation of the local police, which was entrusted with the responsibility of ensuring public order and security in the city. At the end of December, the Germans launched repressions against Ukrainian nationalists, in particular, the Gestapo arrested and executed several dozen Bukovinians [8]. The kuren itself was disbanded for nationalist activities that ran counter to the policy of the occupation administration. Some of the Bukovinians went over to underground work in the organizational structures of the OUN (m), while many others - with anti-communist or even opportunistic considerations - became part of the Schutzmanschaft [9] [10].

      An additional contingent of the battalion mobilized rural youth from the Kiev region, which the Germans perceived as the least “poisoned” stratum of the population by the Bolshevik propaganda. The young men were assured that they would guard the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, railway junctions, banks and warehouses [11]. After passing the medical examination and filling out the necessary questionnaires, they became recruits. Although, for the sake of voluntariness, they were asked if they wanted to serve in an armed formation, they had no alternative but to be sent to Germany or deserted. The recruits mentioned received neither uniforms nor weapons. There were also no military exercises.
      On August 29, 1942, Hitler approved the expansion of the unit to two battalions. The replenishment consisted mainly of Russians and Ukrainians, as well as German military personnel who committed any offenses. The use of the latter source to replenish the battalion was approved on October 15, 1942.By September 1943, the Dirlewanger brigade consisted of a German company (150 people) and a German motorcycle platoon (40 people), 3 Russian companies (450 people), an artillery platoon (40 people - half Germans, half Russians). By the end of 1943 the brigade had grown to 2000 people, of which 400 were Germans, about 1000 were Russians, the rest were Ukrainians, Belarusians and Latgalians.
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  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 March 2021 12: 12
    0
    Banderlog are waiting for their Nuremberg and it will be.
  13. evgen1221
    evgen1221 22 March 2021 12: 13
    -3
    The point is to start one, but to steal and punish it demonstratively is another. The Sumerians do it.
  14. iouris
    iouris 22 March 2021 12: 20
    -1
    This is a "case of whites". Nazism can only be destroyed from the outside.
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  16. cniza
    cniza 22 March 2021 12: 37
    +3
    For example, a criminal case was opened against Vladimir Vyatrovich,


    All cases must be brought to court ...
    1. Black lotos
      Black lotos 22 March 2021 16: 11
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      All cases must be brought to court.

      there are many of these court cases and institutions from the Russian Federation to Ukraine and vice versa.
      Both countries have scribbled them on the citizens of their neighbors since 2014, and they continue this difficult business.
      What will be more important - the court in Ukraine for Baistrykin or the RF IC for Vyatrovich?
      Shows time.
      But simple taxpayers are just smoke in their eyes. Fun for taxes.
      1. Avior
        Avior 22 March 2021 20: 12
        +1
        A pointless exercise. No Interpol will comply with these decisions.
        1. Black lotos
          Black lotos 23 March 2021 00: 15
          -1
          Quote: Avior
          No Interpol will comply with these decisions

          Interpol does not consider such political courts. And he was simply tired of Ukraine and the Russian Federation.
          Surely they are already there mentally and not mentally sending such a forest.
          and from what the SC was excited then? It seems that the time of excitement was 2014. well there 2015. is no longer relevant now. "fascists / nazis" are not relevant for a long time in connection with the recognition of the second elections and personal meetings at the presidential level.
          or there someone woke up and wiped himself off with a piece of paper 5 years ago.
  17. Thompson
    Thompson 22 March 2021 21: 04
    +1
    Quote: Black Lotos
    The American constitution does not prohibit xenophobic speech. The First Amendment to the Constitution, which guarantees freedom of expression, protects such speech along with anyone else.

    Do not forget to remind Trump about this, otherwise he forgot to present it to social networks. Do you really believe so naively in their freedom of speech?
  18. Der Spiegel
    Der Spiegel 23 March 2021 10: 13
    0
    The Nuremberg decision mentions the recognition of all of the above structures, parts, connections, etc. - Nazi criminals?
  19. Lister
    Lister 25 March 2021 15: 19
    +11
    Ukraine is trying to reconsider the decisions of Nuremberg

    Revisions of Nuremberg and the results of the Second World War are underway not only in Ukraine. Only Russia is protesting, but no one hears us, they don’t want to hear us.