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American general worried about the appearance of the fifth generation fighter Su-57 in Russia

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The United States is unable to confront Russia and the PRC, since it does not have enough stealth fighters for this. And although their air force has the latest generation F-22 and F-35 aircraft, the US press still complains about the shortage of the latest fighters and their appearance in countries that Washington identifies as adversaries.


In particular, this is the opinion of Chris Osborne, who published an article on this topic in the American magazine The National Interest.

He argues that the US Air Force is sorely lacking fifth generation fighters. Indeed, although they are armed with the F-35 and F-22, most of the American fighter aviation Are aircraft of the fourth generation. The author regrets that these combat vehicles are not able to overcome the air defenses of Russia or China, remaining unnoticed. Moreover, both Moscow and Beijing are constantly improving their air defense systems.

US Air Force Lieutenant General David Deptula, who at one time served as an F-15 pilot, agrees with the opinion of the observer.

The US Air Force needs aircraft that can penetrate enemy air defenses.

- considers Deptula.

The general is also worried about the appearance of the fifth generation Su-57 fighter in Russia, and the J-20 and J-31 among the Chinese, which by their characteristics significantly exceed the fourth generation aircraft of the US Air Force. General Deptula, who works at the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Research, believes that the presence of a new generation of fighters in the United States of America's geopolitical rivals can "affect world security." In particular, it gives an example of testing Russian Su-57 fighters in Syria.
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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 21 March 2021 18: 54
    +25
    This is another divorce on the "grandmother", urgently need to buy a different "kirdyk".
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 March 2021 18: 58
      +7
      Quote: marchcat
      This is another divorce on the "grandmother", urgently need to buy a different "kirdyk".

      Estessno! The main thing is no longer about the United States, not about the EU, but directly about "world security." Apparently, the US and the EU are no longer giving money for security. So you need to remind the whole ball!
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 21 March 2021 19: 03
        +8
        Exactly, but somehow I did not pay attention. Out of habit, I do not read the amersky nonsense carefully. repeat
        the presence of a new generation of fighters in the geopolitical rivals of the United States of America is capable of "affect global security"
        Although they do not hide the fact that America is in their understanding, this is the whole world.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 21 March 2021 19: 23
          +16
          Quote: NIKNN
          Although they do not hide the fact that America is in their understanding, this is the whole world.

          Deptula. the surname just pleased. Is it Romanian? wassat
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 21 March 2021 19: 25
            -1
            Quote: Stroporez

            Deptula. the surname just pleased. Is it Romanian? wassat

            I was more pleased with the article itself, about Deptul's article !!!! wassat wassat
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 21 March 2021 19: 37
              +8
              Quote: Nasr
              I was more pleased with the article itself, about Deptul's article !!!!

              Now, the victorious comments that smash the article about the article of the Romanian Deptula will please even more. wassat wassat wassat
              I'm going to buy some beer. laughing drinks
              1. military_cat
                military_cat 21 March 2021 19: 47
                +11
                The general is also worried about the appearance of the fifth generation Su-57 fighter in Russia.

                One can rejoice for the ability of journalists to penetrate the enemy's head and read his mind, because in the original article (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/stealth-fighters-backbone-us-military-war-china-180781) there are no statements, that the general was alarmed by something.
                1. hirurg
                  hirurg 21 March 2021 20: 43
                  +1
                  I am glad that the American general is worried ..
                  The enemy's moral and mental instability is good.
                  Moreover, anxiety with such a lag in time ...
                2. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 21 March 2021 21: 06
                  +3
                  Quote: military_cat
                  You can rejoice for the ability of journalists to penetrate the enemy's head and read his mind, because in the original article (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/stealth-fighters-backbone-us-military-war-china-180781) there is no claim that the general was alarmed by anything.
                  He simply does not know that the Russian Federation and the PRC have a secret development of a flying hyper-super-enema with stealth coating and a homing head, intended for the entire generals of the Pentagon and NATO, in order to brainwash them through .. (you guessed it) ... It works on the principle - "Let it go and forget it".
                3. Avior
                  Avior 22 March 2021 00: 17
                  +2
                  This style has become such, migrated from the yellow press.
                  It's also good that something like
                  “American generals are hysterical! Russia has a new plane! "
                  Sometimes it happens:(((....
          2. Carat
            Carat 21 March 2021 20: 19
            -1
            Quote: Stroporez
            Deptula. the surname just pleased. Is it Romanian? wassat


            Why be surprised. The indigenous population was destroyed, and the remnants were driven into reservations. The population of America is a combined hodgepodge from all over the world.
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        2. wow
          wow 23 March 2021 17: 06
          0
          It would be better if they cleaned up the garbage after their black ... in their cities, otherwise it's a shame to look!
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      2. venik
        venik 21 March 2021 19: 49
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        The main thing is no longer about the United States, not about the EU, but directly about "world security."

        =========
        Did you notice that too ?! good drinks And just about to blurt out that the states imagined themselves to be the "navel" of the Universe, like Louis XIV: "The state is me!"
        1. figwam
          figwam 21 March 2021 21: 31
          +6
          The US Air Force needs aircraft that can penetrate enemy air defenses.

          And why would the Pindocia planes penetrate the Russian air defense zone, there you have nothing to do. Well, in general, this is another proof that the F-22 and F-35 do not have the declared EPR characteristics, but are perfectly visible to our air defense.
          1. ironic
            ironic 21 March 2021 22: 33
            -1
            Why Russia? Air defense production of the Russian Federation exists also outside its borders.
            1. figwam
              figwam 21 March 2021 22: 47
              +4
              Quote: ironic
              Why Russia?

              Because it is written that way.
              The author regrets that these combat vehicles are not able to overcome the air defenses of Russia or China, remaining unnoticed.
              1. Avior
                Avior 22 March 2021 00: 20
                0
                The article generally says that 4th generation aircraft cannot penetrate and air defense zones, more than the fifth one is needed
                there are not enough fifth generation fighters. Indeed, although they are armed with the F-35 and F-22, most of the American fighter aircraft are fourth-generation aircraft. The author regrets that these combat vehicles are not able to overcome the air defenses of Russia or China, remaining unnoticed.
                1. figwam
                  figwam 22 March 2021 08: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: Avior
                  The article generally says that 4th generation aircraft cannot penetrate and air defense zones, more than the fifth one is needed

                  They are no longer needed, they are starting to develop a new 4+ aircraft, and the question is not in the aircraft, but in the fact that they are planning to penetrate the territory of Russia.
                  1. ironic
                    ironic 22 March 2021 12: 40
                    0
                    Until they start, only debates are going on, but is it worth it.
              2. ironic
                ironic 22 March 2021 12: 42
                0
                This also takes place outside the territorial boundaries of Russia or China. Bases, ships ...
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      3. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 21 March 2021 22: 04
        +2
        American general worried

        Well, if it worries, then let it scratch. repeat
    2. kenig1
      kenig1 21 March 2021 19: 02
      -11%
      They will print money and buy, and our Nizadovna protects paper and paint.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 21 March 2021 19: 31
        +4
        [quote] [/ quote] They will print money and buy, and our Nizadovna protects paper and paint.
        And what will they be able to buy from someone, and what will this someone be able (and wants to !!) to sell them?
        Rudeness is not paid for in the world today, even charity is not given for it ...
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 21 March 2021 19: 11
      0
      Quote: marchcat

      +1
      This is another divorce on the "grandmother", urgently need to buy a different "kirdyk".

      This is an admission that the F-35 program is simply cut, taking into account the fact that Russia "will not rise" ... They also stopped the production of the Raptor, and the lines were dismantled. No matter how good it is, there are few of them and every year it becomes less and less.
    4. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 21 March 2021 19: 19
      +3
      Quote: marchcat
      This is another divorce on the "grandmother", urgently need to buy a different "kirdyk".

      It would be appropriate to ask the general a question - for what purpose is he going to penetrate Russian airspace? Really, to suppress the inclinations of Russia for the independence of the United States? Most probably not. So yes, the general really wants to get bonuses from increasing the construction of even more Fi-35s, etc.
      Other reasons defy logical explanation.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 21 March 2021 19: 36
        +1
        It's just that the general was caught stupid and uneducated and does not even imagine what it is like to attack Russia without a head and without brains!
    5. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 22 March 2021 06: 01
      0
      I agree.
      Moreover, it looks like a scam, since the Su-57 has not yet been adopted for service, and therefore is only a prototype, even with a high degree of readiness.
    6. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 23 March 2021 03: 44
      -1
      Quote: marchcat
      This is another divorce on the "grandmother", urgently need to buy a different "kirdyk".

      The appearance of the plane ........ Will .... will not? Grandma-money-from the Russian people to oppose the foreign people? Is there such a plane? Will it be when? And why do I need such prices for gasoline and utilities .... Everything is for the benefit of the Muscovites, RUSSIANS to us .... we will get from them ..... laughing
  2. svp67
    svp67 21 March 2021 18: 56
    +4
    He argues that the US Air Force is sorely lacking fifth generation fighters.
    It's ridiculous to read it ... They would say straightforwardly: "Give me money, but more"
  3. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O 21 March 2021 18: 57
    -12%
    Whatever one may say, but in air combat the most powerful fighter is the F-22, where Avionics is excellent, but we are marking time with avionics, then they hoped for the Indians ... as a result, everything is Chinese, almost especially in the SU-35
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 21 March 2021 18: 58
      +12
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      Whatever one may say, but in air combat the most powerful fighter F-22

      Whatever one may say, but no one has heard of a single F-22 air battle in recent years ...
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O 21 March 2021 19: 02
        -15%
        Well, then yes, but you must understand the role of avionics, and that electronics in the military-industrial complex is well developed in the United States, we have strong Geomerism ... but avionics by no means
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 21 March 2021 19: 13
          +7
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          MIC, we have strong Geomerism ... but avionics by no means

          What can you say about Russian avionics? Do you have anything to do with her? Or data from the Internet?
          1. Carat
            Carat 21 March 2021 20: 21
            0
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Quote: Holuay T.O.
            MIC, we have strong Geomerism ... but avionics by no means

            What can you say about Russian avionics? Do you have anything to do with her? Or data from the Internet?

            Data for any is classified.
          2. venik
            venik 21 March 2021 20: 30
            +1
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            What can you say about Russian avionics? Do you have anything to do with her? Or data from the Internet?

            =======
            Yes, if only from the Internet! And then most likely from "of the Stela reference book"Or"OBS encyclopedias"! lol drinks
        2. KCA
          KCA 21 March 2021 20: 44
          +4
          Not so long ago, there was a major scandal at the Pentagon, when it turned out that even for space needs, not just Chinese components that had not passed military acceptance were purchased, but in general, golny counterfeit, but also electronics is well developed in the United States.
        3. d4rkmesa
          d4rkmesa 21 March 2021 20: 54
          +1
          The F-22 has an ancient, like mammoth shit, onboard computer based on Intel processors of the level of the first Pentium in the amount of 66 and only recently got rid of indicators on a CRT. )
        4. Maikcg
          Maikcg 21 March 2021 21: 33
          +5
          So what's wrong with the on-board instruments in Russia? Are they not on the plane without them, a bare board in front of the pilot? Or maybe they don't let the pilot control the car? Or can it be bought entirely on Ali and show fake Chinese data? Radar is not PAR, oh FSE gone?

          And the oxygen system trying to kill the pilot in F-22 is different, you have to understand! When they did not fly for 5 months, while looking for a malfunction. By the way, they haven't fixed it to the end.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 22 March 2021 02: 25
        -3
        Quote: Volodin
        no one has heard of a single F-22 air battle in recent years ...

        Were there any F-22 fights with anyone at all, or is he like that "elusive Joe"?
        On September 23, 2014, information appeared in the media about the first combat use of the F-22 by the US Air Force against Islamists in Syria. The plane hit the city of Raqqa and its suburbs. By February 2015, F-22s had completed at least 112 combat missions in the skies of Syria. By June 2015, F-22s were included in every group of attack aircraft bombing Syria. Described one 11-hour flight, in which the F-22 clearly demonstrated its versatility, completing the strike mission, reconnoitring enemy ground forces, aiming other aircraft at targets and escorting bombers ...
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    2. BABAY22
      BABAY22 21 March 2021 19: 02
      +16
      the strongest fighter F-22

      Justify.
      On the F-22, the avionics is twenty years old.
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O 21 March 2021 19: 10
        -21%
        The F-22 has advanced avionics. The F-22 features advanced stealth technology. It is invisible to other aircraft and can conduct enemy detection at a great distance. The fighter uses the APG-77 radar.
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 21 March 2021 19: 14
          +9
          Holuay - instead of the icon of the house, do you have photo f22, and you pray for him? And the word "stealth" is like a salary for you - you can't do without it. .. lol
        2. BABAY22
          BABAY22 21 March 2021 19: 18
          +19
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          The F-22 has advanced avionics. The F-22 features advanced stealth technology. It is invisible to other aircraft and can conduct enemy detection at a great distance. The fighter uses the APG-77 radar.

          Kindergarten, second shift. lol
        3. venik
          venik 21 March 2021 20: 59
          +5
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          The F-22 has advanced avionics.

          =======
          Before speaking - it is better to think first (preferably - head)! The F-22 has good avionics, but it's over 30 years old! THIRTY, Hans! During this time, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge and the instrumentation did not stand still (and here - too!).
          ---------
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          The F-22 features advanced stealth technology.

          =======
          Well, WHAT is his EPR? The numbers are in the studio!
          ---------
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          can conduct enemy detection at a great distance

          =======
          Uh-huh! And others - CANNOT? fool
          ----------
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          The fighter uses the APG-77 radar.

          =======
          The station is certainly good, no words! IN its time was considered the best in the world (in its class) .... Alas - she is also over 30 years old!
          Now look:
          Target detection range with RCS 1 sq. M
          1) APG-77 (AFAR): - 240 km.
          2) N035 Irbis (PAR): - 270 km.
          3) N036 Irbis (AFAR) - 400 km.
          Any questions?
          Learn materiel and you will be happy!
          1. Shiden
            Shiden 21 March 2021 23: 49
            0
            Quote: venik
            Quote: Holuay T.O.
            The F-22 has advanced avionics.

            =======
            Before speaking - it is better to think first (preferably - head)! The F-22 has good avionics, but it's over 30 years old! THIRTY, Hans! During this time, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge and the instrumentation did not stand still (and here - too!).
            ---------
            Quote: Holuay T.O.
            The F-22 features advanced stealth technology.

            =======
            Well, WHAT is his EPR? The numbers are in the studio!
            ---------
            Quote: Holuay T.O.
            can conduct enemy detection at a great distance

            =======
            Uh-huh! And others - CANNOT? fool
            ----------
            Quote: Holuay T.O.
            The fighter uses the APG-77 radar.

            =======
            The station is certainly good, no words! IN its time was considered the best in the world (in its class) .... Alas - she is also over 30 years old!
            Now look:
            Target detection range with RCS 1 sq. M
            1) APG-77 (AFAR): - 240 km.
            2) N035 Irbis (PAR): - 270 km.
            3) N036 Irbis (AFAR) - 400 km.
            Any questions?
            Learn materiel and you will be happy!

            Sorry for interfering, of course I am far from aviation, but I try to include logic. As far as I understood the strategy of the US Air Force is the interaction of strike and interceptors with AWACS aircraft, distributors. And how things are in this regard in the Russian Air Force.
            1. kit88
              kit88 22 March 2021 00: 24
              +10
              Quote: Shiden
              And what about the situation in the Russian Air Force.

              AWACS is a necessary thing, there is no dispute. But...
              What does AWACS do?
              Aims the fighter at the target.
              Who else can aim at the target?
              Ground command post. Ground Mon.
              Now for the main question. Where are we going to fight?
              If over the territory of the enemy - it is difficult without AWACS. If over their territory - KP and PN are doing an excellent job.
              Now tell me, why do Americans need so many AWACS? Where are they planning to fight?
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 22 March 2021 00: 48
                0
                Quote: kit88
                Now tell me, why do Americans need so many AWACS?

                For long-range radar detection and control of the Air Force.
                Quote: kit88
                What does AWACS do?
                Aims the fighter at the target.
                Who else can aim at the target?

                They are not the same. The ground-based radar will "see" the plane flying at an altitude of 100 meters, at a distance of 54 km. AWACS at a distance of 454 km. Aircraft can fly at heights of several tens of meters. Tomahawks are the same story. It is impossible to build an effective air defense system without AWACS aircraft. Over-the-horizon radars can only warn about filling, they cannot determine the exact coordinates, the tomahawks simply will not see.
                Armament ratio: brown us, dark blue USA, red China. AWACS in the lower left corner.
                1. kit88
                  kit88 22 March 2021 01: 30
                  +10
                  By the way, yes.
                  And how is the detection of low-flying targets in the air defense system carried out. It would be nice to hear the navigators on this topic. It’s hard to believe that the operative calls the commander at night - Commander, we have a couple of hundred tomahawks 50 km away, should we raise the regiment on alarm or is it no longer necessary?
                  1. OgnennyiKotik
                    OgnennyiKotik 22 March 2021 01: 39
                    -4
                    Quote: kit88
                    And how is the detection of low-flying targets in the air defense system carried out.

                    AWACS should be implemented. In view of its actual absence in our country, it is partially compensated by echeloned defense. Air defense of different classes must cover each other.
                    Quote: kit88
                    Commander, we have a couple of hundred tomahawks 50 km away,

                    This is the question of why the navy is needed. Until recently, tomahawks could only be on ships, so all ax carriers within the radius of their destruction should be under the control of our fleet. The launch must be recorded, if they flew and we do not know this, then it is too late to drink Borjomi.
                    1. kit88
                      kit88 22 March 2021 01: 51
                      +8
                      We've got some kind of spherical horse here.
                      AWACS should they roam continuously along the borders? This is a peaceful time.
                      So there won't be enough resources.
                      Not, but you never know what emerges from under the water - and let's fly at an altitude of 10 meters.
                      I mean, you can't attach your own to each of their boats.
                2. Sergey Kulikov_3
                  Sergey Kulikov_3 22 March 2021 06: 14
                  0
                  To detect aerospace forces at a distance of 450 km, you need to approach the borders of the Russian Federation, and during a war this is not easy to do, the first attacks will be missiles, the survivors will clearly not have time for AWACS.
              2. Shiden
                Shiden 22 March 2021 01: 19
                -2
                Well, first of all, ground command and control units are more vulnerable than AWACS. As far as I know, first of all, strikes are delivered against air defense systems. I am a person with real views, there will be losses on both sides, but how many tanker aircraft, reconnaissance aircraft, AWACS, electronic warfare in the Russian and US Air Forces. The reality of today is such that the confrontation between Russia and the United States is smoothly moving from the economic plane to the military-political plane. and I want to ask you how the SU57 interacts with AWACS aircraft, distributors, and electronic warfare.
                1. kit88
                  kit88 22 March 2021 01: 40
                  +9
                  AWACS is an important goal. Therefore, some of them are always accompanied, while others, respectively, want to fill him up in the first place.
                  The ground command post is always under the cover of air defense missile systems.
                  I want to ask you how the SU57 interacts with AWACS aircraft, splitters, electronic warfare

                  How is it set up? Are you asking me?
                  According to the guidance documents. yes
        4. paul3390
          paul3390 21 March 2021 21: 43
          +3
          Don't you think that the declared type of stealth and advanced radar do not fit together very well? For as soon as it works in the active mode - and the stealth will light up like a Christmas tree? It turns out either the type of invisibility - or the detection range. Not - it is clear that it is claimed to receive data from third-party sources, but in the case of a real battle it is not yet known whether it will fail or not.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 21 March 2021 19: 15
        +2
        Who wrote
        Quote: Holuay T.O.
        here Geomerism is strong ... and
        exactly something is very wrong.
        And so, there are no UNIMPORTANT parts on the plane! After all, he flies entirely, works, and not in parts.
        By the way, the F 22 is a serious aircraft, the best they have ... and they planned to upgrade it.
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    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 21 March 2021 19: 17
      +7
      Holuay - buy yourself fitishes from the USA - a cruiser like Ticonderoga, on which you bowed yesterday, f22 and f35, you probably need to buy an Abrams tank, with a Javelin ATGM, and you will be happy that you have all this. ... wassat
    4. AVA77
      AVA77 21 March 2021 19: 20
      +4
      How not cool but in a real battle, the Indian soldier is the most powerful in the world! there is an elegant uniform, but we have a tight uniform with an elegant uniform, and the Americans too. laughing . in the end, everything is Chinese almost especially elastic bands for panties wassat
      1. Sergey Kulikov_3
        Sergey Kulikov_3 22 March 2021 06: 18
        +1
        We have a demobilized sewing workshop and it can't do that :)
        1. AVA77
          AVA77 22 March 2021 11: 18
          0
          You don't understand, Dembelya is different, winked Demobels have art, piece work. fellow
    5. venik
      venik 21 March 2021 20: 08
      +3
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      but we are marking time with avionics, then they hoped for the Indians ..

      =========
      Do you seriously think that you wanted to receive from the Indians modern avionics? belay fool They wanted to get money from them!
      ---------
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      as a result, everything is Chinese, almost especially in the SU-35

      =========
      You can list: that Specifically, is there Chinese? For God's sake alone - without all these "Almost all"! Specifically please!
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        1. venik
          venik 28 March 2021 11: 31
          0
          Quote: qwerty11
          you will not believe

          ======
          Have we already switched to "YOU" ??? belay
          Quote: qwerty11
          ALL computers in dry Chinese with amerskoy Windows and even Chinese mice. all equipment dry is also foreign, from a screwdriver to cnc machines

          ========
          My youngest (and he is a computer engineer, works in "PYa") - laughed from the heart!!!
  4. Bykov.
    Bykov. 21 March 2021 18: 57
    +1
    Apparently this general did not read American newspapers. Then he would know that this new plane of the Russians is Putin's harmless and useless project. ... as well as other "Vanguards", "Peresvet" and "Petrel".
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 21 March 2021 19: 00
    +7
    The general is also worried about the appearance of the fifth generation Su-57 fighter in Russia.

    They write that the Su-57 is manure, then they write that this is a 5th generation aircraft. Does it depend on the degree of the need for money?
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 21 March 2021 19: 11
      0
      Everything according to Panikovsky:
      * ... Give a million! Well, give me a million! ... "
      laughing
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 21 March 2021 20: 32
      +1
      Maybe on the number of depressants taken? It is quite possible that the man ran out of pills. It's so hard for them without them. They are so worried, anxious, restless. Already breaks a tear from pity.
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  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 March 2021 19: 06
    +1
    Either they lack pilots, or planes!
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 21 March 2021 19: 09
    +1
    The author regrets that these combat vehicles are not able to overcome the air defenses of Russia or China, remaining unnoticed.

    You might think their "stealth" can do it ???
    Fresh is the tradition and belief of all ... do / R \ iks in their own fairy tales.
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 March 2021 20: 56
      +1
      They live in the cinema and are guided by it, and it plays into our hands ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 March 2021 21: 34
        +1
        Who is supposed to, those in the course ... and the rest let them watch Hollywood.
  9. Viktor Afanasev
    Viktor Afanasev 21 March 2021 19: 17
    +2
    It would be funny if an American general was happy about the appearance of new weapons in our country or the PRC ...
  10. businessv
    businessv 21 March 2021 19: 28
    0
    The US Air Force needs aircraft that can penetrate enemy air defenses.
    By surname - Moldovan, by rank - lieutenant general, in fact - captain "obviousness", based on his statements!
  11. 123456789
    123456789 21 March 2021 19: 43
    0

    American general laughing
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 21 March 2021 19: 48
      +16
      Quote: 123456789
      American general

      To him
  12. maiman61
    maiman61 21 March 2021 19: 50
    +4
    World security depends when the US dies! And the sooner the better!
  13. Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator 21 March 2021 19: 53
    -1
    Good fighter. To bring to mind to unleash production to find good buyers with money and I think it will work out. Although the Rdin regiment is certainly not enough for such a country.
  14. Kushka
    Kushka 21 March 2021 19: 53
    -3
    [quote = gdfdgh.ser] The general got scared of one single SU-57 and Chinese junk for which they can't even develop their own engine, only he forgot to mention that they themselves have about a couple of hundred F-22s and under 500 F-35s, well, fabulousnickname [/ quote]
    That's all 500 and 500!
    What about 500? For two days of war?
    Total Soviet aircraft manufacturers in 1941-1944. 116296 aircraft were produced, of which 97140 were combat aircraft. German industry produced 91113 aircraft during the same period, including 77505 combat aircraft.
    1. Carat
      Carat 21 March 2021 20: 29
      -3
      Quote: Kushka
      What about 500? For two days of war?


      500 is already a lot. Further, the exchange of nuclear strikes will end the war in a draw.
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 21 March 2021 22: 16
        0
        Here you have to decide. If the war is "on the buttons"
        then though not one (on both sides).
        And if "as usual", then it is for two days (from both sides).
        (on 22.06.1941/11/24 our 4 thousand (out of 7), the Germans XNUMX thousand (out of XNUMX).
        And then I had to rivet 25 thousand a year (both sides)
        and so on for 4 years).
  15. Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 21 March 2021 20: 01
    +3
    American general worried about the appearance of the fifth generation fighter Su-57 in Russia

    And the Russians are worried about their actual absence. Paradox laughing
  16. Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 March 2021 20: 27
    0
    And that he has the Supreme cuckoo, this does not bother the general? winked
  17. cniza
    cniza 21 March 2021 20: 55
    +2
    The biggest problem with global security is US action ...
  18. Puppeteer 111
    Puppeteer 111 21 March 2021 21: 48
    -1
    National Interest, Sohu, Soho and all? Only three media publish military topics?
  19. Runoway
    Runoway 21 March 2021 22: 32
    -2
    In general, of course, ours do not know how to trade crying (although, in principle, where does the mind come from in the absence of a national idea, plans and the presence of separate principalities)
    But in fact, such a niche is opening! For me, in parallel with the Su-57, it was necessary to develop a single-engine competitor for the F-35, for all those countries to whom they refuse to sell it.
    Again, for this, it was necessary to immediately work out a plan to bypass the sanctions for the implementation of mutual settlements, so as not to change for palm oil. But who will do all this? Nabiullina? They only know how to play a monopoly with their own people
  20. d1975
    d1975 21 March 2021 22: 32
    0
    I am more and more convinced that the Americans are charlatans, they only need war, their candy wrappers and war is dear. Yes, their machine costs a lot here, you can't argue, but in fact, some show-offs and that's it, because in fact they never really fought with a strong enemy, stupid grandmas and that's it !!!
  21. Simon
    Simon 21 March 2021 22: 35
    0
    Quote: marchcat
    This is another divorce on the "grandmother", urgently need to buy a different "kirdyk".

    Yes, even if you buy them, they will not be saved from the "kirdyk" anyway!
  22. faterdom
    faterdom 21 March 2021 22: 36
    -1
    Crackers, crackers, don’t trefozhte zoldat ... Let the zoldat sleep quietly.
    In their warm institutes, where they work and worry.
  23. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 21 March 2021 22: 39
    0
    All this is just another thickening of colors .. quality matters if to a certain extent it is multiplied by quantity. And here we see a picture of the fact that the United States can rivet stealth in the hundreds, but we cannot afford such a luxury without creating an even greater imbalance in our military budget. The overwhelming advantage in important sectors of the United States and NATO may well be organized, just as eventfully and we are able to organize some kind of local-temporary success over their forces and under certain circumstances. In either case, stealth aircraft in the quantities in which we or the United States have them do not solve the key problem of such a dead-end situation - namely, effective hacking of the defense along the front width and to a depth sufficient for a major strategic regional victory in a time frame insufficient for the mobilization and deployment of the main forces and WITHOUT the use of strategic nuclear forces. Consequently, there was a dead end and a dead end remains.
  24. Your stranger
    Your stranger 21 March 2021 23: 20
    -2
    And what about that American site?
    The magazine's publisher and chief executive officer, Dmitry Simes [17], is an American political scientist specializing in Russia. He is known for bringing former US President Richard Nixon to a meeting with Mikhail Gorbachev during the Soviet era. Since September 2018, Simes, together with the deputy of the State Duma of the VI and VII convocations from the "United Russia" Vyacheslav Nikonov, has been hosting the social and political talk show "Big Game" on the Russian Channel One. He is a native of the USSR [18].

    Editor - Jacob Helbrunn [19]. Previously wrote for publications such as The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal and the Los Angeles Times. [20]

    Since 2002, Alexey Pushkov has been on the editorial board of the journal [21].
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 21 March 2021 23: 25
      +12
      Quote: Stranger
      And what about that American site?

      ordinary gebuha, all three. yes
    2. Maksim_ok
      Maksim_ok 25 March 2021 13: 14
      0
      Dima is clearly in the ranks of Gru
  25. akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 21 March 2021 23: 21
    0
    What does the world security and the desire of mattresses to get into the air defense zone on our territory have to do with it? Have lost their mangy banks?
  26. Guru
    Guru 22 March 2021 00: 45
    0
    is capable of "affecting world security."
    That is, American laughing mattress covers the whole WORLD already consider their property
  27. ramzay21
    ramzay21 22 March 2021 02: 54
    0
    Well, one Su 57 is differently stronger than 220 F22 and 500 F35. Damn mathematicians
  28. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 22 March 2021 07: 57
    -1
    The key to the general's expression is "overcome ..... without being noticed." A nation of thieves and robbers is their psychology.
  29. EvilLion
    EvilLion 22 March 2021 08: 28
    0
    Apparently, 1 serial Su-57 delivered is comparable to the entire fleet of F-22 and F-35, and two dozen Su-57s, which should arrive before 2024, leave the US Air Force no chance. And the fulfillment of the contract for 76 cars is the dominance of Russia in the sky of the Earth.

    is capable of "affecting world security."


    She will grow up.
  30. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 22 March 2021 16: 04
    0
    We urgently need to beg for money for a 7th generation fighter immediately, in order to finally get ahead of the hated Russia ...
    1. Kuzmitsky
      23 March 2021 18: 32
      0
      Getting ahead of Russia is the tenth thing. It looks like it's just a kickback from the American military industry. By their order, they make so much noise and scare everyone with "Russian bears".
  31. Maksim_ok
    Maksim_ok 25 March 2021 13: 13
    0
    The National Interest is a journal of the group of the Russian Federation. Nothing can disturb generals (not retirees) there. since the Su-57 has only one serial, while the USA has 186 F-22s and no less than 300 F-35s of three versions.