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Armor of Sir Thomas Sackville from the Wallace collection

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Gorgeous armor can sometimes be seen in the movies! Quentin Dorward, 1955 motion picture


"Fortress and beauty are her clothes ..."
(Proverbs 31: 25)

Museum collections of knightly armor and weapons. Today we continue the theme of the Wallace collection of armor, but we will tell you about just one single set of armor.

The main emphasis will be on something else: the story of the creation by King Henry VIII of England (reigned 1509-1547) of the royal armory in his palace in Greenwich, on the banks of the Thames and slightly downstream of the City of London.

Some of the best gunsmiths in Europe were brought here in 1514 to make armor for the king's own needs. And they made some great pieces of armor for him.

But after Henry's death in 1547, the short reign of his son, the boy King Edward VI (1547-1553), was followed by the reign of two queens, Mary I (reigned 1553) and Elizabeth I (1558-1603), neither of which ( as women) did not need personal armor. So the Greenwich workshop instead began producing armor for the nobility, who bought special licenses from the crown, giving them a special privilege to do so.

King Henry VIII was remarkable in every way. However, we are interested in him, first of all, as a military man responsible for the security of his state. But here ... it was not so simple at all.

For example, realizing that the cavalry of the French gendarmes is a great force, he was able to lead a detachment of nobles on "armor" horses in his guard. But he only had enough money for 50 people!

True, each such rider was entitled to "support" from one rider in light armor, one horse archer and one servant. In 1513, these horsemen fought in the Battle of Gunegaite. But in 1539 the detachment was disbanded due to the excessive cost!


Arme's helmet (1580), probably owned by Peregrine Berthier, Lord of Willoughby D'Fresby. The work of the Greenwich Armory. Royal Arsenal in Leeds, England

Wanting to limit the extravagance of his subjects, who spent huge sums of money on fashionable clothes, he ordered everyone whose wife wears a silk underskirt and a velvet upper skirt to keep ... a war horse, beyond the size of his income.

And special "marshals" went to balls and watched who's wife was dressed. And then they went to his house to see whether he was keeping a war horse or not. Another law was passed: you have an annual income of 100 pounds - you also keep a war horse!

But Henry did not have a production base for the production of a large amount of armor. Therefore, the armor had to be imported from the mainland.

So, in 1512, he ordered 2000 sets of armor in Florence. (16 shillings each. That is, it was a fairly light armor of not very high quality).
Then in 1513 - 5000 in Milan. And in 1539 - 1200 in Cologne and 2700 in Antwerp. In other words, there were not enough of their own manufacturers.

But there were also problems with ordering armor from famous masters.


Typical work of the Greenwich Armory: 1575 armé helmet from the armor of William Somerset, XNUMXrd Earl of Worcester. Tower of London

The fact is that the funny incident with Porthos, who did not want to be measured for his costume, described by A. Dumas in the novel "The Viscount de Bragelon", is not a fiction.

It was considered offensive to measure a monarch or a noble person. Therefore, for these purposes, doubles were used, selecting the appropriate men in terms of build, height and posture. Which was by no means easy.

Then from this "body" they made a "pandora" - a mannequin made of wood. And so it was sent to the master abroad.

After that, the made armor was taken to the customer and tried on on a double. Later they were again taken for finishing. And they returned again, decorating. It all stretched out for a long time. Moreover, it also happened that the waist of the double did not keep up with the waist of its owner.

In a word, it was best to have masters at your side, in order to go to them for fitting on your own - that was not considered shameful for the monarchs to put on armor to try them on!

And if armor for the infantry could be bought abroad, even wars did not interfere with this, then for one person, dependence on "imports" seemed an insult.

Hence the open workshop in Greenwich. And the local craftsmen eventually developed their own, very luxurious "Greenwich style". A lot of armor was made in this style, which ended up in various museums. So if in the future we have to talk about them, then without, in fact, stories... It will simply say "Greenwich style." Made then ... And everything is clear.


Soldiers and Officers of the English National Army of the Queen Elizabeth Era: I. Provincial Nobleman, 1548. His armor combines modern and archaic protective devices such as a haubert (hauberk) or haubergeon (baubergeon). 2. Yeoman of the guards equestrian escort in 1575 under Elizabeth I. 3-4. Yeoman of the Royal Guard, 1520 and 1575 The initials ER did not appear until 1570, although Elizabeth ascended the throne in 1558. 5. Officer of the Royal Guard, 1520 6. Scottish Light Cavalry, 1580 7. Scotsman, circa 1580 8. Chief of the Squadron Irish in the time of Elizabeth. Illustration from the book by Liliana and Fred Funkenov “Encyclopedia of weapons and military clothing. Middle Ages. Renaissance: Infantry. Cavalry. Artillery. M .: Astrel, 2002, p. 29

Now back to the story of the armor of Thomas Sackville / Sackville (Thomas Sackville)
- a diplomat and writer, Lord Buckhurst, and later the Earl of Dorset (1536-1608). He ordered his armor while looking at the Almain Album, which featured a series of watercolor illustrations depicting many of the best creations of the Greenwich workshop under the direction of Elizabethan master Jacob Halder (kept in the Victoria and Albert Museum, inv. D.586-614-1894).


"Lord Buckhurst", drawing of armor for Thomas Sackwill, (detail), 1587. "Album of Almain", master Jacob Halder. It was on this drawing that they were made for him. © Victoria and Albert Museum

Sir Thomas served as a cavalry commander during the invasion of the Spanish armada in 1588. And it is possible that he ordered this armor to adequately perform in this role. However, the fact that Sir Thomas was licensed to order armor in Greenwich does not necessarily mean that the armor was intended specifically for his personal use. It is possible that he ordered them as a gift to his son Sir William, who went to fight on the continent (and was killed) in the 1590s.


The armor for Thomas Sackwill was made by Jacob Halder (d. 1608) sometime around 1587-1589. Materials: steel, leather, gold and copper alloy. Total weight 32,03 kg. Weight with an additional bib (poster) - 36,7 kg. © Wallace Congregation Board of Trustees, London

The "field" headset included interchangeable parts that were used to "customize" armor for several different forms of "field" combat, rather than for knightly tournaments.

So, in the infantry they wore only a helmet (without a face shield), a cuirass (a breastplate and a back plate) and mittens.

For light to medium cavalry combat, when the wearer fought on horseback with firearms, a sword and a light spear, shoulder pads and a "skirt", as well as legguards, could be added. And in some cases, bracers.

For cavalry attacks with a spear, armor was worn at the fullest extent, with the addition of a breastplate that strengthens the protection, a spear rest (a bracket on the right side of the chest that supported the spear) and a buff (or buff) to protect the lower part of the face. As well as leggings and plate shoes.

Buckhurst's armor is also the only Greenwich set that retains the original set of stirrups (and they were also made different!). In fact, the only piece of this armor that was lost was the horse armor, or at least the "armored" saddle.


Instead of a full visor, now on helmets, a pre-face buff was increasingly used, which was attached not to the helmet, but to the cuirass. Armor of Thomas Sackville. © Wallace Congregation Board of Trustees, London

This illustration clearly shows the change in fashion for trousers: by 1595 they became long, although they did not lose their "bulk". And they also had to be covered with "lush" legguards to the knees. Noteworthy is the additional armor plate on the chest, which now had a sharp edge in the middle. Its thickness was such that it was difficult to pierce it with a pistol, even firing point-blank! Illustration from the book by Liliana and Fred Funkenov “Encyclopedia of weapons and military clothing. Middle Ages. Renaissance: Infantry. Cavalry. Artillery. M .: Astrel, 2002, p. 39

Like most late XNUMXth century Greenwich armor, this vibrant set is richly decorated with engraved and gilded "straps" and borders.

The main stripes contain a dynamic pattern in the form of a zigzag combined with guilloche (guilloche is an ornamental pattern that looks like intertwining wavy lines or a grid) on a darkened background.


Thomas Sackville's burgundy helmet. Side view. © Wallace Congregation Board of Trustees, London

The fashion for clothing of the time was also reflected in the design of these armors, which had an elongated shape and a "pigeon chest" or "pod" - the standard form of men's doublets of the late 1500s. It also has wide, rounded hip plates that mimic the shape of Elizabethan men's pants.

Armor of Sir Thomas Sackville from the Wallace collection
Armor of Thomas Sackville. Side view. Impressive, don't they? © Wallace Congregation Board of Trustees, London

A number of other armors have survived that are closely related to the armor of Buckhurst.

At least four other Greenwich suits of the same decorative scheme were made, of which three have survived. This is the armor of James Scudamore, which is now in the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

Moreover, there is a portrait of Scadamor in a private English collection, in which he is depicted in this armor. And they are shown in the form in which they should have been worn. Complete with richly embroidered skirt or base, intricate sword, sword belt and military belt. And also with ostrich feathers on the helmet.

There are other armors as well. But we will tell about them next time.

To be continued ...
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  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 05: 44
    +11
    Vyacheslav Olegovich swallowed your work and did not even notice !!! I rested with indignation at the words "To be continued" and then began to breathe !!!
    Thank you so much, Vlad!
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 27 March 2021 06: 02
      +10
      Greetings Vlad, I - Similarly, I read it and stared at the photo (I had to pour coffee over again) laughing .
      Vyacheslav Olegovich - Keep your word, they promised details - please! good An excellent article with great illustrations (as a template, I already need to hammer this phrase into a tablet laughing ) Huge Thanks hi
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 06: 10
        +8
        Hi Alexey, I would like to note that this work, even against the background of the traditionally solid articles of the Author, is distinguished by a higher standard for text and illustrations.
        Obviously successful!
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 27 March 2021 06: 23
          +6
          Shpakovsky - only forward and only grow, otherwise we will not understand and will not forgive (just kidding)!
          I agree - the article was just five plus! Photo of armor - I just want to shout "I haven't taken a two-handed sword for a long time" - to start a siege of neighbors, followed by an assault belay And the plundering of the courtyard repeat
          1. kalibr
            27 March 2021 07: 35
            +7
            Quote: Hunter 2
            "I haven't taken a two-handed sword for a long time"

            Get it soon. The stars converged. The material is being written. The promise given to Anton is being fulfilled.
            1. Alien From
              Alien From 27 March 2021 07: 51
              +6
              You pamper us Vyacheslav Olegovich, pamper us! Thank you for your tremendous work! I join in all the thanks! We are still waiting hi
              1. kalibr
                27 March 2021 09: 08
                +8
                First of all, I pamper myself. Oh, if I had all this in my childhood: freedom of access to information ... where would I be now ... Well, at least in old age it turns out to compensate for the ignorance of youth!
                1. Alien From
                  Alien From 27 March 2021 09: 34
                  +4
                  Very good at it! Compensation for you - we have verified and informative articles with photos good
            2. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 27 March 2021 18: 06
              +2
              Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
      2. kalibr
        27 March 2021 07: 12
        +7
        Yes, Alexey! Here you can even see the hooks and cotter pins that fastened the armor pieces to each other ... I liked it myself.
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 27 March 2021 07: 17
          +4
          Vyacheslav open a secret ... when to expect the next article and on what topic? I hope the "production" has increased what ??
          1. kalibr
            27 March 2021 07: 38
            +8
            There is no secret, but the article is not submitted by me - the administration. And in stock two articles on shooting, about Austerlitz, and - yes, there is a continuation of the theme of armor, and very unusual. I myself did not expect this to happen. I finished an article about Lermontov's duel, about a very unusual Browning rifle ... Work is underway.
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 27 March 2021 07: 41
              +7
              Vyacheslav Olegovich can only wish you inspiration, good health and creative success!
              We are looking forward to new works!
              1. kalibr
                27 March 2021 09: 15
                +7
                All will be. I contacted Sweden, an arsenal in Stockholm. I'll try to get a photo of the armor from the keepers of the Gluboka castle. I was there, but it was strictly forbidden to shoot and ... I was in plain sight with my black camera, of course. I should have asked my granddaughter to film it on an iPhone, imperceptibly. But on the other hand, stealing is not good.
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 27 March 2021 07: 28
      +4
      Good morning! Our "Friday Charlie" (as Vyacheslav Olegovich sometimes calls himself) continues to delight us on the weekend with interesting articles! Let's thank him for that!)
      1. depressant
        depressant 27 March 2021 09: 49
        +3
        Well, I'll tell you)))
        Particularly pleasing is the refined literary style of the article, the airy ease of presentation. The article reads like a work of fiction, comparing favorably with the materials of other authors.
        And here it is:

        .... Henry VIII (reigned 1509-1547)


        The further you are from what is outside the window, the calmer your soul becomes. Oh, brave old world! You close the book and you are gone! Open it again, and here you are, sparkling with charm! Shine on and on, give your smile.
        1. Astra wild2
          Astra wild2 27 March 2021 16: 28
          +3
          Lbdmila Yakovlevna, good afternoon.
          I agree with you, Vyacheslav Olegovich has a wonderful style. That he has that Valery has a wonderful style. They also differed in this style: Denis Brig and Wind
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 27 March 2021 18: 13
          +4
          Oh, brave old world!
          It is you, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, in vain. There was a cruel era, and Henry VIII himself took more than one woman to the grave.
          1. depressant
            depressant 27 March 2021 18: 48
            +3
            Anton, it was for contemporaries that that world was cruel, and for some time the events of those years and the stories of royal wives terrified and awe a small number of subsequent generations. And then they became legends, pleasantly tickling the nerves. Then the subject of research by scrupulous historians, genealogy specialists and writers looking for plots that lead to the now safe past ...
            And now we admire the combat vestments of the knights as an object of art in combination with craft, remembering little that once really suffering people were covered with this iron. We do not hear their cries of pain, their death moans and, possibly, sobs, snoring of wounded horses, clash of weapons, loud commands "Forward to the glory of the king!" Or some other commands ... Nothing! Patina on antiquities and a magical haze of time on the "legends of deep antiquity", which make that world for us marvelous and so fabulously attractive that nowadays there are often imitations of those ancient battles)))
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 27 March 2021 19: 03
              +5
              it was for contemporaries that the world was cruel,
              No, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, just for their contemporaries, their world was a natural habitat. What would you say about a seven-year-old boy who hacked to death with an ax a peer who took the ball away from him?
              1. depressant
                depressant 27 March 2021 19: 21
                +3
                Anton, this is:
                What would you say about a seven-year-old boy who hacked to death with an ax a peer who took the ball away from him?

                Do you mean the present times?
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 27 March 2021 19: 30
                  +5
                  An episode from the biography of a real historical character and the attitude of contemporaries to this case and the projection of the situation onto modern reality.
                  1. depressant
                    depressant 27 March 2021 20: 14
                    +4
                    Anton, explain what kind of historical character? Curiosity discerns: were the children then as cruel as they are now?
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 27 March 2021 20: 23
                      +5
                      Egil Skalagimsson.
                      Children are always cruel, but how society relates to this is another matter.
                      1. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 27 March 2021 20: 31
                        +5
                        In fact, Children are all different! There are very kind ones, there are, on the contrary, angry. Simply by virtue of their development, they easily fall under the influence of their more “cruel” peers, environment, and Parents. They are just beginning to perceive both the norms of morality and the norms of law!
                      2. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 28 March 2021 09: 15
                        +4
                        School rules set a lot. And character is necessary in order not to go with the flow. And for teenagers, the opinion of peers is often more important than the way of life in the family.
                      3. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 28 March 2021 09: 26
                        +2
                        I agree, but apart from the Family and the school - there is Sport, different hobbies ... and you need to carefully look at the environment of the Children and weed out clearly destructive elements. By the way, Parent chats (school, kindergarten, sectional) - give a good idea of ​​the Parents of the Children with whom My Cubs communicate! You need to carefully analyze the correspondence from these chats, well, and react accordingly! Plus, it is imperative to control group chats created by the Kids themselves and Internet preferences.
                      4. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 28 March 2021 09: 33
                        +4
                        And there is. Sport gives you the opportunity to be realized. The vegetable garden is good.

                        Parent's meetings are often a goofy thing. But how the spectrum of parents changes over time gives a good idea.
                2. depressant
                  depressant 27 March 2021 20: 35
                  +4
                  Society says: "This is a small child. He does not understand that this is not possible. He needs to instill social and moral norms - as he grows." The society forgives such a child. But why this question, maybe explain)))
                3. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 27 March 2021 20: 51
                  +6
                  This is not a question at all, but rather an answer - reflection. Moral and ethical norms are established by society for each separate segment of the history of a separate society. What is terrifying today, yesterday was the norm, and tomorrow, it will again be in favor. Don't idealize the past. For example, I am very impressed by the last third of the 19th century, however, I clearly understand all the nasty things of this era.
                4. bubalik
                  bubalik 27 March 2021 21: 10
                  +3
                  Anton hi , in some situations there is a desire for the talion principle to work.
                5. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 27 March 2021 22: 01
                  +3
                  Not without this, Sergei. hi
              2. depressant
                depressant 27 March 2021 21: 23
                +2
                I am not idealizing. I sort through the story like a bunch of greenery, throwing its rotten parts into the trash bin, and I put fresh, beautiful twigs in the sink - they will go into use. You will say, this is not possible, it deprives the history of the objective component. But even historians do this - when necessary, they use ever-flowering olive and laurel branches to order. And what to take from me? I just want to consume attractive historical novels - they help to live in an unattractive present, in which there are also juvenile murderers, hungry, emaciated children, as well as children killed in various ways and even thrown into trash cans - but you never know what children are found in our "highly humane" time! I am ready to consume and unattractive story. Because she doesn't bother me from any side. Only the future is capable of stressing.
              3. Hunter 2
                Hunter 2 27 March 2021 22: 12
                +4
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                the answer is reflection. Moral and ethical norms are established by society for each separate segment of the history of a separate society.

                Allow me to intervene in the dialogue, the norms of Morality are still ephemeral norms, but they play a great role, but ... it's not easier to proceed from the norms of the Law - these norms imply both encouragement and inevitable Punishment! States are built on the Law and not on Morality (is this a good or bad question for Vic Nick - he is a Social Philosopher today).
          2. Undecim
            Undecim 27 March 2021 21: 24
            +5
            Egil Skalagimsson
            it's another matter how society relates to this
            The society is normal.

            Beer tasting at the Egill Skallagrímsson brewery in Reykavik. Four days a week, two hours. Worth $ 71. There is no end to those who wish.
            In fairness, it should be noted that this was not an ordinary child, but a berserk, that is, a mental illness could have taken place.
          3. bubalik
            bubalik 27 March 2021 21: 37
            +3
            hi Who has the right to determine what is normal and what is not?
          4. Undecim
            Undecim 27 March 2021 21: 44
            +5
            Who has the right to determine what is normal and what is not?
            Are you after Weber or Bernard de Mondeville?
          5. bubalik
            bubalik 27 March 2021 21: 52
            +4
            But even before their ideas, people lived.
            And no matter what one person says about another, it will in any case be a subjective assessment.
          6. Undecim
            Undecim 27 March 2021 22: 24
            +4
            But even before their ideas, people lived.
            We lived, of course. But it is difficult to trace the course of ethical thought before Socrates and Aristotle. There are also Hindus with Chinese, but the Upanishads and Shu Jing are too heavy for me.
        3. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 27 March 2021 22: 00
          +5
          Quote: Undecim
          Who has the right to determine what is normal and what is not?
          Are you after Weber or Bernard de Mondeville?

          Mom belay Vic Nick - is expressed in bad words laughing
          You have an interesting dialogue, we switched to social philosophy ... I will continue to observe bully
          Everybody on the plus sign
        4. bubalik
          bubalik 27 March 2021 22: 14
          +4
          Will not work, No. VikNik will just "crush" me. crying
        5. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 27 March 2021 22: 26
          +6
          Quote: bubalik
          Will not work, No. VikNik will just "crush" me. crying

          There are methods ... you need to change the rules and stop playing chess and start playing Chapaev drinks while Vic Nick is considering options - not one of his checkers will remain on the field yes In the end, the question Who's There (repeated twenty times - even the postman Pechkin was knocked down) laughing
        6. Korsar4
          Korsar4 28 March 2021 09: 16
          +5
          This is being discussed on the shore. Chess is like chess, Chapaev is like Chapaev.
        7. depressant
          depressant 28 March 2021 11: 47
          +3
          And the potato depicting the commander is always at the observation post! )))
        8. Korsar4
          Korsar4 28 March 2021 13: 15
          +3
          These are maneuvers. You won't throw food.
  2. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 27 March 2021 22: 23
    +4
    Victor Nikolaevich! You perfectly understood what kind of society I meant.
    For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that at this age they did not become berserkers, in any case, there are no more precedents recorded. In addition, "fighting madness" did not prevent Egil from loving himself safe and sound, which is what world literature owes to the emergence of one of the most famous examples of Old Norse poetry.
  3. Undecim
    Undecim 27 March 2021 22: 37
    +3
    Judging by his biography, he was not particularly careful, he loved to wave an ax, even bite.
  4. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 09: 13
    +3
    Very cruel. Look at the school.
  5. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 11: 53
    +3
    For example, I don't even need to look at the school. It is enough to look out the kitchen window, hearing crying and screams. This is when children return home from school. But, surprisingly, today's aggressive children are much more polite towards outside adults than they were 10 years ago, and respond adequately to comments. Maybe because in recent years, adult communication on the street has become adequate. Children copy. In families, the aggression has increased. I can hear it well.
  6. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 13: 16
    +3
    I think every decade has its own face. Only who will describe it properly.
  7. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 14: 08
    +3
    All times always have two faces:
    The scoundrel will occupy a decent niche,
    Decent, remembering the scoundrel,
    Then he will ascribe all his mistakes to him.
  8. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 14: 46
    +3
    Wonderful. Whose is this?
  9. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 14: 53
    +3
    Yes, so ... My head was boiling. You wrote - "your face", and immediately there was an objection, just in this form.
  10. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 15: 16
    +3
    The blame attribution is simply adorable.
    The essence of things - and the story about him.

    "Pure Truth will triumph over time" (c).
  11. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 15: 39
    +3
    Aha! - it's me with bitter humor. Here is the topic. I just read an article on the Publicist with a summary of the revelations of some retired diplomat. It follows from those revelations that Primakov, who saved Russia from the consequences of the default of 98, is the heir to Andropov, the ideological organizer of the surrender of the USSR. Of course, it sounds trite that there are no completely decent people, even many canonized in the past were sometimes robbers, sometimes accountants and even murderers. But now everything is specially mixed in the Oblonskys' political house, so that a person is completely left without his own rudder and sails. Like, do you think well of someone? Then we go to you to show the depth of your delusions.
  12. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 16: 59
    +3
    It is highly likely that this is so. Who can we recognize? You can't do without a pound of salt.

    "I know everything, without knowing myself" (c).
  13. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 17: 17
    +2
    And they are busy only with telling lies ...
    This is how, throwing words to the wind, a person knows himself. Or others will know it.
  14. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 17: 59
    +2
    Tyutchev:
    "A spoken thought is a lie" (c).
  15. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 28 March 2021 17: 24
    +4
    Excellent!
    Only "decent" is just a man in the street, a product of his time and mentality. He equally hates heroes and villains of his time. And forms "public opinion".
  16. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 17: 41
    +3
    Anton, why does he immediately "hate"?
  17. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 28 March 2021 18: 47
    +3
    Because man is a social animal.
  18. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 28 March 2021 19: 12
    +4
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Because man is a social animal.
    Anton wants to answer with poems by Evgeny Yevtushenko ...
    There are no uninteresting people in the world.
    Their fates are like planetary histories.
    Each has everything special, its own,
    and there are no planets like her.

    And if someone lived unnoticed
    and was friends with this imperceptibility,
    he was interesting among people
    by its very uninterestingness.

    Everyone has their own secret personal world.
    There is the best moment in this world.
    There is the worst hour in this world,
    but all this is unknown to us.

    And if a person dies,
    his first snow dies with him,
    and the first kiss, and the first fight ...
    He takes all this with him.

    Yes, there are books and bridges
    machines and artists' canvases,
    yes, much is destined to remain,
    but something goes away anyway!

    This is the law of ruthless play.
    It is not people who die, but worlds.
    We remember people, sinners and earthly.
    And what did we know, in essence, about them?

    What do we know about brothers, about friends,
    what do we know about our only one?
    And about his dear father
    we, knowing everything, know nothing.

    People are leaving ... They cannot be returned.
    Their secret worlds cannot be revived.
    And every time I want it again
    from this irreversibility to scream.
    Ps People are still something more than a "social animal". Better - worse, the question is difficult. We can kill when we do not need food, fight for incomprehensible goals, but we can also sympathize and help each other, support the weak, share the latter. We are all completely different!
  19. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 18: 03
    +3
    “And you will be firm in luck and in misfortune,
    Which, in essence, has only one price "(c) ..

    Lozinsky's translation is more pleasant.
    But in this case, the lines from Marshak's translation will do.
  20. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 18: 07
    +2
    Judging by the fact that Marshak is mentioned, I dare to assume that the lines are from Shakespeare?
  21. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 18: 29
    +3
    Found it myself - Kipling, "Commandment"))))

    And if you own your passion
    And it is not she who dominates you,
    And you will be firm in luck and misfortune, Which, in essence, has one price ...

    But I have to pause in the conversation: someone is very dissatisfied with me, I will not upset the person with my presence))))
  22. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 19: 45
    +3
    Yes. Quite right. This is Kipling.
    And different translations have their own shades.

    Who can be very unhappy with you?
  23. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 20: 39
    +3
    Well, here, she returned)))

    Who is not happy with me? Someone.
    Don't hide, don't leave
    He won't get off halfway
    Sleep is not peculiar to him,
    Activity is a guarantee of happiness,
    He is not afraid of God and the devil.

    Someone is always dissatisfied with us. Each of us has his own dissatisfied, and he must be protected like the apple of an eye, he is a secret, and everyone must be friends with his secret. Such friendship is for two, in it the third is superfluous)))
  24. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 22: 03
    +3
    Riddle.
    Similar to the English translations of Chukovsky or Marshak.
  25. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 22: 47
    +4
    Yes, come on, Sergei, don't guess! There are many more worthy mysteries in the world. Sometimes you look at a photo of a person against the background of a basalt wall masonry made of blocks of two human height in some Chechen-Itza and you are amazed: how did they do it? Here's something to think about. And when you plunge into such thoughts, then everything else seems to be an insignificant trifle. And after all, running your hand over such a masonry means touching the past millennia. And it becomes scary. Human destinies turned out to be processed into this masonry. People left, as there were none, without a trace, but she remained unreadable, not a chronicle. Humanity is a consumable material of architecture. This is insulting.
    And what you have read is impromptu.
  26. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 March 2021 23: 20
    +3
    Didn't make it to Mesoamerica. It doesn't hurt that much.
    And we will find the old masonry. You don't have to go far.
    All repeats.
    The snowdrops are already in bloom. We overwintered.
  27. depressant
    depressant 28 March 2021 23: 31
    +3
    Well, we still have snow and snow, and there is no end to them))
    And on this optimistic note - good night, dear friends, wonderful dreams and vigorous awakening tomorrow morning!
  28. Korsar4
    Korsar4 29 March 2021 05: 26
    +3
    Good morning!
    Snows don't last forever. And the spring snow deserves respect. Snow before leaving.
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 27 March 2021 20: 59
    +4
    There was a cruel era, and Henry VIII himself took more than one woman to the grave.

    Mein the bearded Freund, he was generally the greatest smart guy. wink If you remember, he shook the fat-assed inhabitants of the monasteries very well for money! good And, conventionally, all the enmity between England and Spain for two hundred and fifty years is just the result of the loving King Anne Boleyn being treated by the loving king ... repeat
    Well, who doesn't happen to? request Yes, it does not happen to anyone! angry Romantic sir! And all because of the woman ... winked Which he himself will then send to the scaffold! laughing
  • Van 16
    Van 16 27 March 2021 06: 06
    +9
    Yes, the article is read voraciously, and the text and photos are, as always, on the level. Thanks for the new knowledge and the pleasure of reading!
  • Flooding
    Flooding 27 March 2021 06: 59
    +8
    The armor for Thomas Sackwill was made by Jacob Halder (d. 1608) sometime around 1587-1589. Materials: steel, leather, gold and copper alloy. Total weight 32,03 kg. Weight with an additional bib (poster) - 36,7 kg.

    Twice the difference in weight with the Milanese armor from the previous article.
    1. kalibr
      27 March 2021 07: 39
      +7
      Quote: Flood
      Twice the difference in weight with the Milanese armor from the previous article.

      I can not explain. I don’t even change figures from museum catalogs. I give it as it is.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 27 March 2021 07: 42
        +6
        Quote: kalibr
        I can not explain. I don’t even change figures from museum catalogs. I give it as it is

        both samples are masterpieces
        but I would prefer to carry 36 kg of armor on myself
        1. kalibr
          27 March 2021 09: 11
          +7
          Quote: Flood
          but I would prefer to carry 36 kg of armor on myself

          I will try to continue to give the weight of the armor itself and its parts. By the way, I wore full armor in one club. And that was something. At first it seemed that I could not take a step and raise my hand. Then he picked it up, then began to walk ... held out for 30 minutes. Tired ... like a dog, but if it is possible without training, then a trained person simply did not notice their weight.
          1. depressant
            depressant 27 March 2021 09: 58
            +5
            I was not too lazy in relation to the previous article, and, using the weight of each detail given under one of the photos, I calculated the total weight of the "assembly". He turned out to be 17 kg 880 g.
            This is not so much for a strong man dressed in such a "suit". However, it can be assumed that not all details were provided.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 27 March 2021 10: 11
              +4
              Quote: depressant
              However, it can be assumed that not all details were given.

              By the way, yes
              only the weight of the bib is indicated
              but the cuirass must have a back - back
              1. depressant
                depressant 27 March 2021 11: 47
                +6
                I suppose there must be a backrest. And not only in case you have to screech from the battlefield, but also as a means of balancing the center of gravity of the body. Without a back plate, the knight will bend forward, which is not very comfortable and will require excessive efforts from the body in an unsuitable environment.
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 27 March 2021 15: 04
                  +5
                  I suppose there must be a backrest

                  Here is the back of the cuirass.
                  1. Undecim
                    Undecim 27 March 2021 15: 16
                    +3
                    As for the armor from the article, the backrest looks like this.
                    1. kalibr
                      27 March 2021 15: 21
                      +4
                      This is not a backrest, but a bevor - a forehead!
                      1. Undecim
                        Undecim 27 March 2021 15: 26
                        +3
                        Exactly, gorget. Where is the backrest? But he was.
                      2. Undecim
                        Undecim 27 March 2021 16: 08
                        +2
                        I did not find the backrest of this particular armor.
                        There is another one from the same collection.
                  2. Flooding
                    Flooding 27 March 2021 15: 28
                    +2
                    Quote: Undecim
                    As for the armor from the article, the backrest looks like this.

                    unlikely
                    does not look like the back of the cuirass
                    the geometry is similar just to the front part
                    1. Undecim
                      Undecim 27 March 2021 15: 53
                      +3
                      Yes, I already wrote above that it is a gorget.
          2. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 27 March 2021 10: 19
            +6
            calculated the total weight of the "assembly". He turned out to be 17 kg 880 g.

            Lyudmila Yakovlevna, you have to carry it around for several hours, and even wave your hands. The pleasure is still something.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 27 March 2021 10: 59
              +4
              I remembered about hiking trips with a 20-kilogram luggage.
            2. depressant
              depressant 27 March 2021 11: 10
              +6
              Agree! ))))
              But what about the climbers? There the backpack on the approaches to the ascent site - from 11 256 to 15 754 grams, that is, on average 13 506 grams, and on the ascent site - from 6 464 to 10 964 grams, which is an average of 8,714 kg.
              It would seem half as much as the knight had to carry. But since the load is in the form of a backpack - it is on the back, its weight should not violate the position of the center of gravity, otherwise it will outweigh, and ... If not for that, they would have taken more. And compare - movement on the plain and movement up the cliff, almost vertical, and not for several hours, but, perhaps, for several days, and even a monstrous temperature regime! And almost every second tension of all muscles and nerves. The possibility of death is psychologically akin to a continuous real battle in its peak phase.
              But - they climb, drag the weights on themselves and enjoy - the suffering of the body, the flight of the spirit, the beauties of the view, the consciousness of their own strength and exclusivity))))
              I wonder what the knights enjoyed, clad in armor)))
              1. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 27 March 2021 13: 57
                +5
                But what about the climbers?

                Seriously engaged in water tourism. I made sure that for rough terrain, where you have to walk continuously for 3-4 hours, the maximum weight for a young guy is 35-40 kg, no more. The hardest part is both casting onto the route and leaving it. The abandonment is difficult because all the products have not yet been eaten, leaving the route is difficult because decent fatigue has already accumulated, and the skins of the kayaks are wet. Sometimes it was necessary to carry the load in parts. The period of "Salutes" and "Taimenes" (late 70s, early 80s) has caught on, we have upgraded both of them very significantly. In the tsarist army, the load norm for a soldier was 2 pounds, which is quite consistent with our results. And with a load of 70-80 kilos, I also had to walk, only these were sections of 150-200 m with a three-minute rest. The pleasure is still something.
                1. Hantengri
                  Hantengri 27 March 2021 18: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: Aviator_
                  Seriously engaged in water tourism. I made sure that for rough terrain, where you have to walk continuously for 3-4 hours, the maximum weight for a young guy is 35-40 kg, no more.

                  Seriously engaged in mountain tourism, i.e. I had to walk not 3-4 hours a day, but 6-10 hours. According to Soviet norms, the weight of the luggage should not exceed 1/3 of the weight of the tourist. But who followed this ...)))
                  1. Aviator_
                    Aviator_ 27 March 2021 18: 31
                    +4
                    I had to walk not 3-4 hours a day, but 6-10 hours.

                    I wrote about the interval without a break, during the transfer I also had to go for 10 hours with breaks. What is good in Kola and Karelia in the summer - it is light all the time, they didn't even take lanterns. And we went without girls, at the limit of possibilities.
                    1. Hantengri
                      Hantengri 27 March 2021 19: 02
                      +3
                      Quote: Aviator_
                      I wrote about a gap without a break,

                      Yes, I, in principle, wanted to say about the norms prescribed by TB, which no one has ever followed. As a rule, young children and newcomers were unloaded up to 10-15 kg, and they themselves were loaded, like donkeys, up to the same 35 - 40.
                      Quote: Aviator_
                      on delivery

                      We did not practice the transfer, if the route from point A to point B. The transfer was made only when preparing for the ascent, and we, youngsters, make the transfer, and adults, hung with uncle's regalia, "ascend".)))
                    2. Aviator_
                      Aviator_ 27 March 2021 19: 07
                      +3
                      Yes, I, in principle, wanted to say about the norms prescribed by TB, which no one has ever followed.

                      Naturally, no one followed. But if an accident happened, they remembered everything.
                2. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 27 March 2021 18: 49
                  +6

                  August 1980, Umba River, Kola Peninsula. I'm second from the left. Shot by self-timer.
                  1. Hantengri
                    Hantengri 27 March 2021 19: 26
                    +4
                    Great! And since that time I have not preserved any photographs, more precisely, the negatives have survived, and it is not clear what to do with them now ..
                  2. Aviator_
                    Aviator_ 27 March 2021 19: 32
                    +4
                    Digitize and turn into positive, it is done quickly on the scanner. This is my digitalized slide, filmed on the GDR film UT18, it was better than Kodak.
          3. Flooding
            Flooding 27 March 2021 15: 24
            +3
            Quote: depressant
            But - they climb, drag the weights on themselves and enjoy - the suffering of the body, the flight of the spirit, the beauties of the view, the consciousness of their own strength and exclusivity))))

            I am without any comparison
            especially since I remembered those old Soviet backpacks without a frame
            with armor should be easier
            if in the shade))
          4. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 27 March 2021 18: 21
            +4
            and even a monstrous temperature regime!
            Not so much as hypoxia.
          5. Korsar4
            Korsar4 28 March 2021 07: 45
            +2
            When older daughters go to the mountains, a backpack is something.
        2. Hantengri
          Hantengri 27 March 2021 18: 29
          +3
          Quote: Aviator_
          calculated the total weight of the "assembly". He turned out to be 17 kg 880 g.

          Lyudmila Yakovlevna, you have to carry it around for several hours, and even wave your hands. The pleasure is still something.

          Well, it was only necessary to drag it all to the horse ... And then - these are her problems. The knight, often, didn’t even need to wave his hands: He settled in the saddle, put his feet on the stirrups, put his spear on the hook and rushed 600 kg of poorly controlled carcass on the enemy!
      2. kalibr
        27 March 2021 11: 04
        +6
        Quote: depressant
        that not all details were given.

        You're right. Not all. But the data was not for everyone.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 13: 32
          +6
          By wearing armor.
          Based on my personal impressions, the most grateful and kind to wearing of protective weapons is chain mail. Weight from 10 to 14 kg is conveniently distributed over the body and you quickly get used to it.
          He dressed and wore full knightly armor ten to fifteen times. Dressed on a podososchnik, rigidly hinders movement, if you still put on a helmet, then, in principle, you lose in the review. Perhaps if it is customized for you in an individual performance, then it is easier. But in general, it is difficult to carry almost one and a half pounds of iron, tourist training will not help here. The closest sensations can be obtained when wearing a full set of armor protection classes 4-5 with a helmet of the "sphere" type. And so in the sun, even in spring, you understand that the knights wore surcoats and cloaks for a reason.
          Although I do not know which is better to carry armor or a ten-kilogram Roman scutum. That's for sure - there were two-legged mules of war !!!
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 27 March 2021 13: 35
            +5
            Vlad, based on the analysis of injuries after the battles of that time, the main ones were inflicted on the limbs, followed by finishing off. So armored vehicles are also not superfluous. laughing
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 13: 53
              +5
              Quote: Hunter 2
              Vlad, based on the analysis of injuries after the battles of that time, the main ones were inflicted on the limbs, followed by finishing off. So armored vehicles are also not superfluous. laughing

              If you want to have offspring, you will not only put on an armored machine, but also put on an armored barrel. As far as I remember, the white armor of Maximilian was equipped with a similar device.
              1. Hunter 2
                Hunter 2 27 March 2021 13: 58
                +6
                And horse saddles are of a very peculiar shape ... drinks
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 27 March 2021 18: 23
      +3
      "tired like a dog" Lermontov seems to be right: "there were people in our time, heroes! Not like the current tribe '(s)
    3. vladcub
      vladcub 27 March 2021 18: 54
      +2
      "tired as a dog" Q, if you have an alternative: carry 32 kg or: "wooden mac" (c). You and the center will carry
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 27 March 2021 08: 37
    +8
    Somewhere I understand Porthos.
    Standing in line for school uniforms as a child. And then try it on - you will be brutalized.

    Probably, from an early age, patience is not enough.
  • WHAT IS
    WHAT IS 27 March 2021 08: 40
    +12
    Thank you for the material and very high quality photos, beauty!
    1. kalibr
      27 March 2021 09: 12
      +9
      Quote: WHAT IS
      very high quality photos

      Photos of the museum. The main thing here is to get permission to use them.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 13: 34
        +4
        Quote: kalibr
        Photos of the museum. The main thing here is to get permission to use them.


        In our case, at least we should say a big thank you to them from our entire readership !!!
        1. kalibr
          27 March 2021 13: 46
          +4
          Don't worry, Vladislav - they've given it all!
  • Undecim
    Undecim 27 March 2021 10: 31
    +5
    Some of the best gunsmiths in Europe were brought here in 1514 to make armor for the king's own needs.
    Three years is not a period, but still the best gunsmiths from Milan and Brussels were brought in 1511.
  • Undecim
    Undecim 27 March 2021 11: 01
    +7
    The "field" headset included interchangeable parts that were used to "customize" armor for several different forms of "field" combat, rather than for knightly tournaments.

    Here, Vyacheslav Olegovich, you are mistaken.
    In the original description: "This design shows a light cavalry armor for battle with supplementary pieces for jousting". That is, for tournaments.
    Moreover, the figure shows an additional bib, armor for the saddle and stirrups. Obviously not for field combat.

    Disassembled burgonet helmet.
    1. kalibr
      27 March 2021 11: 08
      +5
      Thank! But what is strange. After all, I read the same thing and I know very well what jousting is. Why did I think this? Except that I wrote for three days. I forgot one day what I wrote the next ... I had to write "for ..."
    2. Undecim
      Undecim 27 March 2021 11: 13
      +6

      Additional bib with support for a spear.

      Plate boots.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 27 March 2021 11: 08
    +4
    And the men's personal belongings were defended? It hurts if you hit with your feet, with a sword or epee with a pistol. Extremely painful mutilation.
    1. depressant
      depressant 27 March 2021 11: 42
      +5
      In the last article there was one photo, which shows that "men's personal belongings" were protected ... by a curtain! What was the reason for my long fun)))
    2. Engineer
      Engineer 27 March 2021 12: 05
      +5
      Defended themselves well
      https://marinni.dreamwidth.org/399360.html
    3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 13: 11
      +4
      Quote: Free Wind
      And the men's personal belongings were defended? It hurts if you hit with your feet, with a sword or epee with a pistol. Extremely painful mutilation.

      Armor-piercing codpiece is our everything !!! laughing
      If we also recall the medieval adaptation as “trousers of fidelity”, then one can only shrug in surprise - after all, they multiplied somehow !!!
      1. kalibr
        27 March 2021 13: 49
        +5
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        After all, they multiplied somehow !!!

        Watch the fun comedy "Wonderful Times at Spessart". There is just about how they bypassed ... this one.
    4. kalibr
      27 March 2021 13: 47
      +5
      There will be material where the protection of personal belongings will be shown in close-up and described in detail.
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 29 March 2021 23: 00
        -3
        Quote: kalibr
        There will be material where the protection of personal belongings will be shown in close-up and described in detail.

        So this is the main defense))
  • Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master 27 March 2021 11: 59
    +7
    Excellent article, Vyacheslav Olegovich. Thanks as always. smile
    From myself I will say: when I look at such armor - steel, gold, black, patterns, in short, at all this splendor, I want to take a halberd or a pick and try it all for strength.
    Yes, I am such a barbarian. smile But this is probably just me. Even in those years, they probably tried not to hit on such a thing again. smile
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 27 March 2021 12: 26
      +7
      Michael, even in those years it was a work of Art, weapons and jewelry! It's amazing that with your outlook - suddenly decided to become a Vandal belay
      Personally, looking at this splendor, I have only one thought:
      1. I want, I want, I want crying
      1. Trilobite Master
        Trilobite Master 27 March 2021 14: 04
        +5
        There is an anecdote about harsh Siberian lumberjacks and a Japanese chainsaw.
        - And you drank to us, drank, that's such a bitch.
        - Zipper!
        - But such a log?
        - Zipper!
        - But such a fucking thick log?
        - Vzhzhzhzhik!
        - And you drunk us a concrete pillar!
        - Zzyang, crunch!
        - And, men, all this pampering is Japanese. Let's go to work.
        That's how I am. The outlook is the outlook, and the village mentality and craving for natural science take their toll. laughing
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 27 March 2021 15: 06
          +7
          The outlook is the outlook, and the village mentality and craving for natural science take their toll.

          - I tried to analyze the world from the cradle!
          Dissected toys, moving towards a great goal
          From childhood!
          ("Ball of the Vampires"). laughing
          I want to take a halberd

          It is interesting that in the fourth picture at the first "5. Officer of the Royal Guard, 1520" in the hands of a halberd ... Unusual, although in the early 16th century it may have been. In general, the halberd will become the hallmark of a non-commissioned officer in the army. The officer will be with a protazan or an esponton. hi
          1. Trilobite Master
            Trilobite Master 27 March 2021 16: 05
            +6
            In general, the armor from the Wallace Gallery is, of course, wonderful in every way. But I don’t know, they don’t impress me personally. I am here, because today is a day off, in the best traditions of Tolstoy and Dostoevsky, I decided to delve into myself and understand why I want to make a traumatic effort to these works of art. In theory, it should be the other way around - to blow off dust particles from them, but no. So it asks for a pick or a reed.
            It's really simple.
            There is no rich history behind these items. Well, in any case, I don't know her. When I see photographs of hacked helmets and torn chain mail from Visby, I am in awe, because I know for sure that these objects participated in a real mortal battle, that they received enemy blows, that some of these blows were fatal for them. owners. These are heroic things.
            Probably, even if I just saw rumpled armor - ordinary, without decorations, and at the same time, for example, I would know that this armor belonged to an unknown knight who lived in the first half of the XNUMXth century, I could assume that he participated in campaigns of Jeanne dArc, in the battles of Castillon or at Pate, and these traces on the metal are dents, scratches - traces of English arrows, swords or axes. That the owner of this armor did not run from the battle, inflicted and received blows, facing the enemy. I would come up with a name for this knight, for example, Guillaume de Bruillet, Chevalier de Truveau, I would come up with a biography, fate ...
            And this armor does not excite my imagination. I know that these are not toys, but for me, for my inner understanding, they are still not real.
            Therefore, I want to subconsciously test them for strength.
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 27 March 2021 16: 19
              +8
              And this armor does not excite my imagination. I know that these are not toys, but for me, for my inner understanding, they are still not real.

              Mikhail, your opinion exactly coincides with my spiritual impulses ... yes This is tsatsuki. Ceremonial. Expensive. Works of art. But, as you rightly said, there is no "history" behind them. request Therefore, the rusty "Zweichender" in the Kingisepp Museum of Local Lore (or rather, its remains) was more interesting for me to look at than the rich Knights' Hall of the Hermitage ... drinks
            2. Korsar4
              Korsar4 27 March 2021 16: 23
              +6
              I wonder if there was a thrill in the soul, what factors should converge. Territorial location? Favorite centuries? Favorite characters?

              I could see the childhood of Moscow in Suzdal and Pskov.
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 27 March 2021 21: 26
                +2
                I could see the childhood of Moscow in Suzdal and Pskov.

                I still dream of getting to Suzdal, and at the same time to Vladimir ... And to see both Pokrov-on-Nerl and "Balzaminov's house". And Pskov is our favorite city from mine, we have been skating there once a quarter for two years now.
                Cathedral in Pskov Except:

                An interesting house in the center of Pskov. The masonry is visible from different times:

                Both photos are ours, January 2020. drinks
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 13: 17
      +7
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      From myself I will say: when I look at such armor - steel, gold, black, patterns, in short, at all this splendor, I want to take a halberd or a pick and try it all for strength.


      I had a girl friend who, being at a picnic after the first question about an air rifle, is loaded? Having received the answer yes - she shot at the company about fifty meters away. Then I almost turned gray.
      On a reasonable question - why? There was a dumb question why not! After that I jumped the tenth way from this person !!!
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 27 March 2021 13: 52
        +4
        I do not understand, so they shied away from a woman, or from a man? laughing
        1. depressant
          depressant 27 March 2021 14: 28
          +4
          Probably both from a woman and from a man - the one in which the woman fell wassat
        2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 17: 57
          +3
          Quote: Free Wind
          I do not understand, so they shied away from a woman, or from a man? laughing

          Quote: depressant
          Probably both from a woman and from a man - the one in which the woman fell wassat

          No from the girl. Fortunately for me, God had mercy on me.
          A person should at least have a brake from a minimum of moral principles. When he's not there, it's scary.
      2. Trilobite Master
        Trilobite Master 27 March 2021 14: 12
        +6
        Oh-oh-oh, Vlad, I have a question right away. What about this girl now? Alive? Are you healthy? Raising children?
        In such cases, I recall the story of Jack London "Under the Awning", in my opinion, is called.
        I have nothing to say. There is nothing
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 27 March 2021 16: 24
          +5
          Very instructive. I always keep it with me. It helps a lot from illusions.
        2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 17: 54
          +4
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          Oh-oh-oh, Vlad, I have a question right away. What about this girl now? Alive? Are you healthy? Raising children?
          In such cases, I recall the story of Jack London "Under the Awning", in my opinion, is called.
          I have nothing to say. There is nothing

          I will say in one word, no joke and seriously - Prosecutor!
          1. Trilobite Master
            Trilobite Master 27 March 2021 17: 57
            +4
            Also in one word. It happens.
      3. vladcub
        vladcub 27 March 2021 18: 15
        +4
        From this and really need to be equipped: FIG knows what is in her head?
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 27 March 2021 13: 33
    +3
    Colleagues, good afternoon. I am grateful to Vyacheslav Olegovich that in addition to the metal "shell" he decided to tell something about the owners of the "shell"
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 27 March 2021 16: 56
    +3
    "Yeoman of the Royal Guard", when I read it, I immediately remembered: Walter Scott "Ivanhoe", remember, Robin Hood wore a yeoman's ojde
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 27 March 2021 17: 35
    +5
    "went to balls, looked at someone's wife dressed" imagined the following picture: walking around the ball like this: "marshal" and: "in the name of the king, lift your skirt!"
    I suspect that some of the ladies, such "marshals" were especially intent on the ladies
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 March 2021 18: 07
      +4
      Quote: Astra wild2
      "went to balls, looked at someone's wife dressed" imagined the following picture: walking around the ball like this: "marshal" and: "in the name of the king, lift your skirt!"
      I suspect that some of the ladies, such "marshals" were especially intent on the ladies

      Smile The British were not the first in this regard. If he had invented a similar way of withdrawing an increased tax for luxury in women's clothing and jewelry, he pushed Canton into the Roman Senate, this is the one who said “Carthage must be destroyed”!
      How could the weak half of the eternal city have not piled him for this!
      1. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 28 March 2021 06: 27
        +2
        Perhaps Vlad hated?
      2. Normal ok
        Normal ok 29 March 2021 23: 05
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        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Quote: Astra wild2
        "went to balls, looked at someone's wife dressed" imagined the following picture: walking around the ball like this: "marshal" and: "in the name of the king, lift your skirt!"
        I suspect that some of the ladies, such "marshals" were especially intent on the ladies

        Smile The British were not the first in this regard. If he had invented a similar way of removing the increased tax for luxury in women's clothing and jewelry, he pushed Ka in the Roman Senateнtone, this is the one that said "Carthage must be destroyed"!
        How could the weak half of the eternal city have not piled him for this!

        "Kaтhe is a Censor. "reading your comments, I am sure it is a mistake.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 30 March 2021 04: 23
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          Yes you are right imprinted.
  • vladcub
    vladcub 27 March 2021 17: 43
    +4
    Oh, and I do not envy the lords of that time: my wife is bald, I just want a fashionable skirt, and the king also shows interest in my wallet
  • vladcub
    vladcub 27 March 2021 17: 44
    +5
    Oh, and I do not envy the lords of that time: my wife is bald, I just want a fashionable skirt, and the king also shows interest in my wallet
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  • Vlad world
    Vlad world 27 March 2021 22: 19
    +2
    I read the article all right, only one thing smiled. It turns out that England was a backward country, if you had to import gunsmiths from the continent.
    And then all the ears were buzzing Russia backward was due to the invitation of some masters.
  • Svidetel 45
    Svidetel 45 28 March 2021 00: 29
    +3
    Thanks to the author, an interesting and informative article, excellent photos, even subtle details are clearly visible.
  • Svidetel 45
    Svidetel 45 28 March 2021 00: 42
    +2
    But interestingly, in the picture, which depicts the soldiers of the era of Queen Elizabeth l, character number 8 with bare feet ?! Or I don’t understand something in the image, but no matter how much I looked, I could not find at least something that looked like shoes on my feet.
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 29 March 2021 22: 25
    -3
    Thanks again for the excellent article. Just great.
    PS. I have a question: I have an officer's dagger of 1914-1917 model. Kind of like normal. Steel blade, straight, double-edged, rhombic section, without valleys. Ephesus consists of a handle and a crucible (cross). Bigel (cross) of brass, with ends bent in different directions. Bone handle. At the base there is a brass bushing with the monogram of Nicholas 2. The top of the handle is brass stamped with a monogram. Manufacturer: German factory "Solingen". But, the blade is engraved with a two-bladed propeller, like the airplanes of that time. Is that a dagger of some Odessa aviator of those times?
    1. kalibr
      30 March 2021 21: 32
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      Quote: Normal ok
      Is that a dagger of some Odessa aviator of those times?

      Quite possible. There was also naval aviation and its pilots could well wear naval daggers with a propeller.
  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 6 May 2021 08: 11
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    HOW I MISSED ... Vyacheslava RESPECT for another interesting info !!! We are waiting for the continuation.
  • Crimea26
    Crimea26 22 June 2021 18: 39
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    One more loop is visible on the helmet BEYOND THE EAR. Looks like it's for opening the side plates? And how were they recorded in a "closed" form?