The US Navy sent a second warship to the Black Sea

Sixth command fleet The US Navy dispatched a second warship to the Black Sea. According to the press service of the fleet, the destroyer USS Thomas Hudner (DDG-116) passed the Dardanelles and is heading for the Bosphorus.

According to a widespread report, the destroyer is sent to the Black Sea for "conducting operations to ensure security at sea." This is the second ship sent by the American fleet to the Black Sea in two days. Earlier, the missile cruiser USS Monterey (CG-61) passed through the straits.

The destroyer USS Thomas Hudner (DDG-116) and the cruiser USS Monterey (CG-61) are part of the escort group for the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS CVN-69 Eisenhower ("Dwight Eisenhower"). The aircraft carrier itself, along with the rest of the AUG ships, is currently in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Turkey. Perhaps somewhere in this area is the Russian submarine "Rostov-on-Don", which is monitoring the AUG and which American ships have not been able to detect for a week.

The AUG entered the Mediterranean Sea on March 8 and was supposed to proceed through the Suez Canal to the Middle East, but the decision was postponed.

As Voennoye Obozreniye previously reported, in recent days the following have entered the Black Sea: the Second Standing NATO Naval Groups (SNMG2), the Second NATO Mine Action Group (SNMCMG2), the Spanish missile frigate F104 Mendez Nunez (Mendes Nunez), Greek missile boat HS Ypoploiarchos Kristallidis (P 69) and cruiser USS Monterey (CG-61).

Comments

[Thrifty]

And we have no such destroyers left, cut or sludge, nothing to project force, and to demonstrate the presence of the fleet in the Gulf of Mexico!

[poquello]

Quote: Thrifty

And we have no such destroyers left, cut or sludge, nothing to project force, and to demonstrate the presence of the fleet in the Gulf of Mexico!

But were there destroyers in the Caribbean?

[Flooding]

Dear colleagues,
I apologize for the offtopic and ask you to judge how acceptable comments like the one quoted below are.
I resort to your help as a "voice of the people"

Quote: aleksejkabanets

There are inclinations from "our statesmen" to the side fascist dictatorship... It has not yet taken shape completely, but together with the Russian Orthodox Church they "work in this direction".

Post from another topic.
But our discussion with my opponent has reached a dead end.
And the question seems to me to be of principle.

[poquello]

Quote: Flood

Dear colleagues,
I apologize for the offtopic and ask you to judge how acceptable comments like the one quoted below are.
I resort to your help as a "voice of the people"

Quote: aleksejkabanets

There are inclinations from "our statesmen" towards the fascist dictatorship. This has not yet taken shape completely, but together with the Russian Orthodox Church they are "working in this direction."

and what is there to judge? these with slogans usually without arguments here like snow in winter

[Flooding]

Quote: poquello

and what is there to judge? these with slogans usually without arguments here like snow in winter

The citizen assures me that I am biased, and his comment is in no way offensive to millions of fellow citizens.

[poquello]

Quote: Flood

Quote: poquello

and what is there to judge? these with slogans usually without arguments here like snow in winter

The citizen assures me that I am biased, and his comment is in no way offensive to millions of fellow citizens.

Are you offended? It means offensive. Well, it’s like a dispute, but in a dispute the truth is born, unless of course the slogan writer gives something else besides slogans.

[Undecim]

Have you run out of arguments refuting your interlocutor's assertion and need "help from the audience"?

[Flooding]

Quote: Undecim

Do you have unambiguous arguments refuting the interlocutor?

I will not repeat that it is the prosecution who proves the legitimacy of their accusations.
and the accusation of the Russian Orthodox Church in some "inclinations to the fascist dictatorship" is at least insulting
do you think I have to prove that the Russian Orthodox Church was not involved in this?

[Flooding]

Quote: Undecim

Have you run out of arguments refuting your interlocutor's assertion and need "help from the audience"?

Bravo! The words are not of a boy but of a husband.
If it is more convenient for your perception, so be it.
Yes, sometimes in a dispute with a person who is solely confident in his righteousness, arguments run out.
And thank you for expressing your objectivity right away.
But first we could ask about the correspondence.

[Flooding]

Quote: Undecim

Have you run out of arguments refuting your interlocutor's assertion and need "help from the audience"?

As required.
The entire thread of correspondence with the aforementioned citizen has been deleted by the administration.
You can ask her what the reason is.

I deliberately did not address this question to the moderators, knowing that in this case all the gems of aleksejkabanets would be lost to history.

[figwam]

Quote: Flood

But our discussion with my opponent has reached a dead end.

The opponent is apparently from the outskirts.

[YOUR]

On the topic have something to say?
If not, then do not bother people to communicate, what you wrote refers to paragraph B of the Rules of Conduct on the site
c) FLUD, comments not related to the topic of the article.

[Flooding]

Quote: YOUR

If not, then do not bother people to communicate, what you wrote refers to paragraph B of the Rules of Conduct on the site
c) FLUD, comments not related to the topic of the article.

I have already learned everything that interested me
do not get distracted from the topic of the article
or press the button in the lower right corner under my comment
if I did not consider it important, I would not write on another topic
what he warned about with his first message

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Flood

towards the fascist dictatorship. This has not yet been finalized, but together with the Russian Orthodox Church they are "working in this direction."

Spit on this thing. A person wants so much, so he sees. Maybe he's sick !? Don't argue with him!

[Looking for]

You seem to have no idea. That the naval blockade of Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis was carried out in the overwhelming majority of cases by destroyers of the US Navy.

[poquello]

Quote: Seeker

You seem to have no idea. That the naval blockade of Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis was carried out in the overwhelming majority of cases by destroyers of the US Navy.

nor did their destroyers help them?

[YOUR]

What were they supposed to do? Attack the Soviet fleet and start World War III?

[poquello]

Quote: YOUR

What were they supposed to do? Attack the Soviet fleet and start World War III?

? what should be - do not miss our pl

[Observer2014]

Quote: poquello

Quote: Thrifty

And we have no such destroyers left, cut or sludge, nothing to project force, and to demonstrate the presence of the fleet in the Gulf of Mexico!

But were there destroyers in the Caribbean?

Well, thank God, you noticed too.

[Xnumx vis]

Cruisers, BODs and nuclear submarines went to the Caribbean, in particular Cuba. The boats are still there.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Thrifty

And we have no such destroyers left

These "visitors" are practically hostages. Crimea leaves them no chance. What are they trying to achieve with these voyages? Are our calculations training?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

What are they trying to achieve with these voyages?

Let them swim, they train our people and keep them in good shape. They are alive there until the lids of the launchers are opened.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

nothing to project force, and to demonstrate the presence of the fleet in the Gulf of Mexico!

Ours are now pushing against the underwater component of the fleet and the fig knows what is hanging out there under the water near their coast. The 6th Fleet has not been able to find the Black Sea Fleet's Varshayanka for a week in the Mediterranean Sea.

[donavi49]

push against the underwater component of the fleet

At the Pacific Fleet, 1 SSNS remained.
Bratsk and Samara have been undergoing repairs since 2014, but it was only in 2020 that they began preparations for repairs in Bratsk.
Both Barakudas are stuck for money, they will probably be disposed of. In reserve, modernization design work stopped in 2020.
4 ShchukB in the lineup, 3 repair boats thwarted the terms by + 1-1,5 years.
Since 2019, Kazan has been handed over every year 3-4 times, by type, so by the day of the Navy, by the day of the submariner, in the fall, 150% will be handed over under the Christmas tree!
For 677 - hug and cry. Or just cry. Even the Navy doesn't really know what to do. Kronstadt is also being handed over since 2019.

In total, the only successful submarine series 636 boats, which stupidly fell off the export. Since the Egyptians chose the Germans, the Thais and Pakistanis of the Chinese, Vietnam and Algeria did not order new boats. As a result, the Admiralty shipyards received a real prospect of turning into VASO with the dismissal of half of the workers and 2-3 days a week for the rest. The Navy ordered them 6 boats for the Black Sea Fleet (Rostov is looking for from this series), and then for the Pacific Fleet, but what will happen after 22 years, when again some of the shops will be idle, is still unclear. The chances of concluding new contracts under US pressure are 0%, well, or the Syrians will be presented with a couple.

Meanwhile, the United States, which does not press on the underwater component, has 19 Virgineks against 4 ShchukB and 1 Severodvinsk ... And this is without partners, vassals, Elks, SeaWulfs.

Belgorod and Borei will not be able to break through even the PLO picket-front line without cover. Without SSNS and fleet actions.

Therefore, yours but we build submarines, somewhat optimistic and far from reality.

[poquello]

Quote: donavi49

Therefore, yours but we build submarines, somewhat optimistic and far from reality.

Why can't they break there? )))))))))))))))))))))
to demonstrate two was enough)))))))))))))))))
and bend your fingers ... well, bend with the Chinese
China's submarine fleet is expected to grow from about 66 submarines (today) to 76 (by 2030).

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[donavi49]

China has the Bohai mega-shipyard, the largest nuclear submarine construction center in the world. So far, only 1 modernized queue has been introduced, 2 soon. What they are building there is generally unclear.

Demonstrations of what? The Iranians over there also photographed the aircraft carrier - is this not a reason to say that Iranian mini-boats will tear YUS Navi?

I only pointed out that there is no direct strike building of submarines in practice. People have this feeling mainly because each boat is written 5-6 times in the media, it will soon be included in the composition, until the end of the year, this year for sure, until the day of the Navy, and so on.

The only series that is normally being built is 636, the most primitive that got into the Navy for the reason that they stopped buying it and the plant was either loaded or closed. If some Egypt ordered 9x636, and did not buy 209 from Merkel, then the Navy would not have bought any diesel engines at all .

At the same time, a complete priest with repairs and, in general, SSNS, namely, they must ensure the combat deployment of SSBNs in a special period. Moreover, they also have to hunt Ohio in the same special period. And there are 1 of them in the Pacific Fleet, 4 in the north.

[poquello]

Quote: donavi49

Demonstrations of what? The Iranians over there also photographed the aircraft carrier - is this not a reason to say that Iranian mini-boats will tear YUS Navi?

Well, it depends on where they were photographed, and depending on where they break it, and the demonstration of pl with yao off the coast of the United States at 62m was quite enough

[donavi49]

You have a different world. Demonstration of nuclear weapons from submarines in 62 was mainly post factum. Rather, the Americans began to detect boats and, as it were, came to the conclusion that there is 100% nuclear weapons, and if it starts, they need to quickly deal with them.

There, if that the whole Cuba was next to the confirmed reconnaissance and photo of the MRBM, and not 1-2-3, but divisional kits that covered the most industrially developed and populated part of the United States. Torpedo diesel boats, possibly several missile boats for 3 MRBMs, were a mere trifle in comparison.

[poquello]

Quote: donavi49

There, if that whole Cuba was next to confirmed intelligence and a photo of the MRBM,

this is static, in Cuba it was possible to build options, such as carpet destruction, launching drg, etc.

[Piramidon]

Quote: donavi49

Therefore, yours but we build submarines, somewhat optimistic and far from reality.

Understood. "All the propalonics have not remained." And the fact that recently both nuclear submarines and diesel-electric submarines are being introduced into the fleet for you, all the scammers, is a taboo from your Washington regional committee. Yes, only for the day of the submariner on this topic materials in the internet tuyevahucha. But the training manual obscures your eyes.

[donavi49]

2015 - Diesel-electric submarines Krasnodar and Stary Oskol
2016 - Diesel-electric submarines Novgorod and Kolpino + Severodvinsk from experimental to the fleet.
2017 - 0
2018 - 0
2019 - Diesel-electric submarine Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky
2020 - SSBN Prince Vladimir and diesel-electric submarine Volkhov

Against this background, a complete priest with repairs, from which half of the ShchukB died, as well as the most budgetary option for repairing 877 existing ones, they do not receive calibers, new SACs and batteries.

[Ros 56]

You are probably a supply manager in our Navy, you know everything, you know about everything, where, what and how much. Maybe it's time for all of us to raise our hands and surrender?

[figwam]

to "conduct maritime security operations"

The Black Sea has been calm and safe since the end of World War II.

[smart ass]

Well, here's another rocket receiver more in the World Cup

[Fossi]

With a great desire, there is something to direct. 22350 both ships, Ustinov. Petro El Grande also kicks like a bald. And with Toph there will be 1155. The only question is why? There is likely to be a nuclear sub, and I think there is more than one.

[Cananecat]

The poor fellow got lost, fought off the pack. )))

[Jacket in stock]

Nata has teachings in the Black Sea. They have a right.
And they can allow spbe.
And we have nothing to answer.
There is nothing to sail to the Gulf of Mexico. And there are no allies there either.
They are nowhere to be found.

[poquello]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Nata has teachings in the Black Sea. They have a right.
And they can allow spbe.
And we have nothing to answer.
There is nothing to sail to the Gulf of Mexico. And there are no allies there either.
They are nowhere to be found.

ett they have nothing to answer in the Black Sea, they are solid bunches, well, I went in - then what?

[smart ass]

And I mean, too, the meaning of a hedgehog bare opoy to scare ??? What a cruiser what a destroyer what combined business balls and bastions for 5 minutes

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Clever man

business balls and bastions for 5 minutes

Have we already got a war?

[keeper03]

At least cold!

[smart ass]

Well, you tensed after seeing the state cruiser in the world Cup

[Reserve buildbat]

Yeah. We constantly have nothing to answer, and then suddenly, against the background of the Statue of Liberty, our nuclear submarine surfaced)))

[keeper03]

So can we already start to drive the adversary in the Black Sea ?!

[AVA77]

Jacket in stock (Konstantin) And we have nothing to answer.
Well, why is there nothing to answer. In 2014, we responded by the annexation of Crimea. We can afford
Nate is left to demonstrate his intentions, express concerns and observe "ensure" the rules of navigation at the World Championship

[Al_lexx]

Sleep ...
One more, one less ..))

[xorek]

They come to us, we come to them ...

[Holuay T.O]

Train to strike and suppress coastal missile systems and in Sochi

[Prisoner]

The submarine commander is clearly going to the Hero of Russia. And the crews of the mattress vessels, upon returning home from the Black Sea, will plump in black with joy that they were released.

[svp67]

Hmm ... alarmingly like that ...

[Ros 56]

Striped, don't worry in vain, and this one is already in sight. They will behave well, they will even be able to return home.

[YOUR]

What is the total tonnage of the ships?
According to the doctrine of Montreux - The total tonnage of military ships of the non-Black Sea states in the Black Sea should not exceed 30 thousand tons.

[poquello]

Quote: YOUR

What is the total tonnage of the ships?

but this is already an interesting question, whether they are rude or regularly impudent

[1536]

It is strange that our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense do not make any statements about the presence of NATO and US ships in the waters of the Black Sea. "The Black Sea Fleet is monitoring their movements." And it's all? And where is the summons of the ambassadors of these states to hand over a note of protest, where are the statements of ministers, etc. actions? Meanwhile, the clear military threat to the Crimea and the Black Sea coast of Russia is becoming more and more dangerous every day. There is, of course, another side to this matter. Any information about the strength of the enemy, about his readiness to attack, bomb, land troops can play primarily on this enemy, makes him stronger in the eyes of ordinary citizens, businessmen associated with the transportation of goods across the Black Sea, for example, demoralizes, in the end. Perhaps this is the reason for the silence, they say, everyone knows: rock the boat, we will sink! .. But still, I would not want it to come to "1941".

[TatarinSSSR]

Study which states and fleets, how many in terms and tonnage, can be in the World Cup. Then everything will become clear.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

They are pumping ...

[Xnumx vis]

On the eve of the call of a group of US Navy ships into the Black Sea, the crew of the Russian frigate "Admiral Essen" worked out the use of cruise missiles "Caliber" against surface targets. Successfully.
At the moment, the Black Sea Fleet warship is at sea.

[TatarinSSSR]

It seems that Ukraine is preparing some kind of big nix in the Donbass, and the ships of the United States and NATO are sliding into the World Cup under this case. No wonder the entire submarine of the Black Sea Fleet went to sea.

[petrol cutter]

These guys will become frequent visitors to the Black Sea / Pont Euxinian? Or whatever they called him names ...
So UA - organizes them naval base in Ochakov. It's a shame even to write such words.
Ochakov is an enemy Naval Base. Lived ...
How could you be like that .... !!!! .. Shortsighted ...

[yehat2]

As far as I know, the Bosphorus Convention rather tightly regulates who and when can enter a warship. Doesn't the US actions contradict it?