In the United States, training begins with hypersonic RSD. They will be located in Europe

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The U.S. Army begins training with launchers for the Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW) medium-range hypersonic missile. According to The Drive, the development company weapons donated the first two launch containers for training purposes.

The Pentagon said that the delivered launchers are training and will allow servicemen to master new weapons and conduct the first training. The delivery of the first battery should take place in 2023. One Long Range Hypersonic Weapon LRHW battery should include four launchers and one fire control vehicle.



(...) in 2021, the army will supply all additional ground equipment for the prototype long-range hypersonic weapon (LRHW) battery. Installation of the LRHW battery to be completed in FY 2023 with the delivery of military missile projectiles

- said in the message of the US Department of Defense.




In the future, it is planned to deploy complexes in Europe to contain Russia and in Asia to contain China.

The development of a new weapon is being carried out by Lokheed Martin with the participation of the US Army Office of Hypersonic Projects, Sandia National Laboratories, the United States Missile Defense Agency and several companies.

In the United States, training begins with hypersonic RSD. They will be located in Europe

The Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW) is a versatile solid-propellant medium-range ballistic missile designed for ground-based deployment. The missile is equipped with the Common Hypersonic Glide Body (C-HGB) universal guided maneuverable gliding hypersonic warhead. It was developed by the Sandia National Laboratories of the US Department of Energy. Rockets with blocks are placed on a two-container installation, towed by an Oshkosh M983A4 (8x8) tractor.

It is not known exactly what range the LRHW missile is designed for, but there is information that the range of the hypersonic warhead AHW, on the basis of which the C-HGB was supposedly developed, is 6800 kilometers. Based on this, some experts suggest that the range of the new weapons will be 3-4 thousand kilometers. It is also claimed that its speed will exceed 5M.
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    1. 0
      20 March 2021 11: 22
      I am quite an infantryman, and I do not understand how training with launchers for hypersonic missiles (as in the article) can contribute to training with hypersonic missiles (as in the title). Who can explain
      1. +5
        20 March 2021 11: 45
        Nowadays it is not uncommon to work out / train calculations on simulators. Also useful.
        The main application is to make. Someone to scare, others to reassure.
        Textbook standard.
        1. -3
          20 March 2021 11: 52
          Perhaps I am "quite an infantryman", but
          how bullet sounds can help
          to make a professional out of a conscript?
          1. +7
            20 March 2021 12: 14
            And what do you think is the daily work of calculating these complexes and how exactly should it be trained? Think about this question, maybe then you will understand something about the "sounds of flying bullets".
            1. -10
              20 March 2021 12: 23
              Quote: alexmach
              Think about this question, maybe then you will understand something about the "sounds of flying bullets".

              Well, first of all, change the tone in the dialogue, otherwise practice in the monologue.
              Secondly, how can one compare the work of calculations in practice and virtually, electronic launches are far, far away in comparison with real ones.
              1. +10
                20 March 2021 12: 26
                Describe in words how the calculation works in practice. What exactly are they doing? And why do you think this cannot be done with a dummy?
                1. -6
                  20 March 2021 12: 27
                  At least with a dummy, you cannot evaluate your effectiveness.
                  Nobody canceled program errors
                  1. +2
                    20 March 2021 12: 28
                    And what is this efficiency in?
                    1. -5
                      20 March 2021 12: 31
                      В practical understanding and evaluating the result
                      1. +1
                        20 March 2021 12: 54
                        What other practical understanding and evaluation of the result of what are you talking about, if you missed the question "and in what calculations do you actually need to train"? Stop pouring from empty to empty!
                      2. -1
                        20 March 2021 13: 05
                        I didn't want to argue at all on Saturday. But you, most likely, have a problem in reading comprehension. Please try again.
                      3. +2
                        20 March 2021 13: 26
                        You are not arguing, you are sketching logically unrelated theses.
                      4. -1
                        20 March 2021 13: 48
                        Alex, sorry, I'm on a mobile, and I don't see your real name, but with the rationale you are wrong, re-read our dialogue again, or perhaps I cannot clearly express my thought
                      5. +3
                        20 March 2021 14: 04
                        Forgive me if I chose too harsh a tone, but my idea of ​​practical shooting with a real rocket is just the icing on the cake of all that needs to be done and performed calculations. Starting from maintenance, charging and recharging, deploying to a firing position, folding and getting out of blows, marches, integration into the command system. And all this requires study, and all this requires, among other things, the development of practical skills, and all this can be done with a dummy rocket, it is just impossible to carry out a real launch with it, just. And if in a similar topic with the Ukrainian Neptune someone else sheds hopes like “what if they don’t make a combat missile,” then these will definitely do it.
                      6. 0
                        20 March 2021 17: 15
                        Yes, I totally agree with your logical chain. But during combat use, the missile did not come out of the launcher, who is to blame and how can this be worked out in virtual? And then I talked about exercises with launchers WITHOUT having a rocket at all in real life.
                      7. -1
                        20 March 2021 18: 07
                        So I have no doubts that they will make a product, with certain characteristics, and that it will come out of the launch container. This is a separate, so to speak perpendicular, task for training calculations.
                      8. -2
                        20 March 2021 18: 13
                        Are you fucking writing from the Pentagon, or what?

                        Can you confirm?
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          2. -1
            20 March 2021 12: 19
            And what are the calculations, the service staff, and even the transporters doing now, "charging" ??? they do not dodge bullets, mostly push buttons.
            Chargers, the container was inserted into place, a couple of connectors, hoses were connected and EVERYTHING. Instead of a rocket, a blank is enough for weight distribution.
            1. +1
              20 March 2021 12: 35
              Quote: rocket757
              And what are the calculations, the service staff, and even the transporters doing now, "charging" ??? they do not dodge bullets, mostly push buttons.
              Chargers, the container was inserted into place, a couple of connectors, hoses were connected and EVERYTHING. Instead of a rocket, a blank is enough for weight distribution.

              You have a strange idea about missile launches. And target designation, and confirmation?
              1. 0
                20 March 2021 13: 55
                This is a normal work / study simulation process .... I don't consider / chew, because that's what they always do. What's not clear here.
                Watch the Soviet film "Keys to the Sky" ... something like this, taking into account modern technologies.
                1. +1
                  20 March 2021 18: 02
                  PPC, we have a launcher, we DO NOT have missiles, we are practicing launches. THIS IS NORMAL?
                  1. -2
                    20 March 2021 18: 23
                    Quote: Mitroha
                    THIS IS NORMAL?

                    Which side to look at?
                    For learning ... there are no particular obstacles in sight.
                    From the point of view, will there be such missiles AT ALL? How strange it looks. Although, the control system is not very different from others, similar.
                    1. 0
                      20 March 2021 18: 25
                      Pull my ears to my ass and I can, but why?
          3. -1
            20 March 2021 12: 20
            If the conscript drove the tractor, then the course of driving the tractor is enough for him. The training for the maintenance of the tractor is enough for the mechanics. You don't need rockets for all this.
          4. 0
            20 March 2021 14: 28
            Quote: Mitroha
            Perhaps I am "quite an infantryman", but
            how bullet sounds can help
            to make a professional out of a conscript?

            Until it comes to the sound of bullets, a conscript infantryman must first be taught how to apply a machine gun to his shoulder, how to disassemble, clean and assemble it, how to load those bullets into it, how to lie down correctly, where to aim, and how to dig trenches. And only then 2 sighting and 10 credits.
            And with rockets it's even easier, you don't even have to shoot them, because everything that happens after pressing the "start" button no longer depends on the personnel.
      2. -4
        20 March 2021 13: 08
        Quote: Mitroha
        how training with launchers for hypersonic missiles (as in the article) can contribute to training with hypersonic missiles (as in the title).

        No way. This is a move in the propaganda war (namely "propaganda", not information war!) Of Washington against Russia. Because so far, Mickey Mouse has failed ...

        The essence of the message: we will soon have WOO-THAT! So, you, allies in NAT, - cheer up and do not drift, and let the Russians tremble and express their deep concern once again.

        But the Yankees do not tell the Europeans that the countries where the RSD will be deployed
        will be swept away by our .... strike as the primary targets for the strategic nuclear forces in the first RNU.

        PS The story with the container from under the BR SRD with the GZ block and the behavior of the Baydown administration resemble manipulation with a drunkard:
        there is no alcohol, so they gave me a bottle to sniff! bully
        But the trend is extremely dangerous, especially for the old woman in Europe.
        The Yankees took her by the bridle and lead her to the slaughter like an old nag ...
        However, it is time for the peoples of Europe to come to their senses, otherwise it will be too late ...
        1. -2
          20 March 2021 20: 22
          Shas everything is ridiculous and tomorrow they will put them for an instant nuclear strike on the Russian Federation this is not a joke from Europe to the Russian Federation and from Alaska to the Russian Federation from Japan to the Russian Federation such missiles will take minutes! to stop the current conditions of the current 1 rocket will touch Europe Alaska Japan other countries to strike with a stalemate simply we can’t do nothing! these are not games anymore! Well, either the Russian Federation will create a spaceship from the films)))))) and it’s so sad that from people who think that they can still bend the Russian Federation, the planet earth becomes a nuclear dump! well, if the top is not given by the people of the Russian Federation!
      3. +1
        20 March 2021 13: 37
        Advancement to position, perimeter organization, deployment, camouflage, electronic warfare ... There have been no medium-range missiles in Europe for almost 40 years now, and personnel must be prepared in advance. A new arms race has begun.
        1. -1
          20 March 2021 13: 57
          Infantry, too, without machine guns and trained exclusively for fields?
    2. -8
      20 March 2021 11: 25
      Quote: rocket757
      But this is already an impudent application for a sharp aggravation of the strategic, military situation in Geyrope!
      This will have to be answered harshly!

      Yes And where is the placement in the Tomogavk missile defense system? Here is the official vanging failure.
      1. +2
        20 March 2021 11: 37
        Well, she could not create new missiles in the dimensions of the old launchers, NOT SHMOGLA!
        Eka is unseen.
        The boss assumes, but the designer DIDN'T SHMOGLA.
        1. -5
          20 March 2021 11: 40
          Quote: rocket757
          Well, she could not create new missiles in the dimensions of the old launchers, NOT SHMOGLA!
          Eka is unseen.
          The boss assumes, but the designer DIDN'T SHMOGLA.

          Well, it is understandable that the underdeveloped three years ago didn’t "shmogla" me why they were drinking blood here?
          1. +3
            20 March 2021 11: 52
            The usual verbal battles of people who did not hold the rocket by the nozzle ... I held more than one, I even had to stroke Buran ... it's a pity that he didn't have to fly again.
            1. -8
              20 March 2021 11: 59
              Quote: rocket757
              The usual verbal battles of people who did not hold the rocket by the nozzle ... I held more than one, I even had to stroke Buran ... it's a pity that he didn't have to fly again.

              Lucky you in this sense. I only literally stroked and flew. And not rockets with planes. But I stroked and coolly flew in reality other delights of life bully laughing Well, to each his own. Although if in due time .... The earth would shudder. hi
            2. +2
              20 March 2021 12: 22
              Buran would have stroked, but I stroked Satan - also a memorable sensation)))
              1. +2
                20 March 2021 12: 43
                Welcome soldier
                We had different directions ... to whom the blow, to whom the control and protection!
                All together we did one thing !!!
              2. +2
                20 March 2021 13: 07
                Why Satan? The good name is "Hello Sodom".
                1. +3
                  20 March 2021 13: 15
                  Well, so he called her sod, and we also liked it. And in our opinion - "Voevoda"
              3. +3
                20 March 2021 13: 46
                Quote: Nikon OConor
                Buran would have stroked, but I stroked Satan - also a memorable sensation)))

                The one who stroked will not call her Satan. For this is the Voivode.
                1. +1
                  20 March 2021 13: 53
                  Yes, I call it that, but here are rocket scientists and not everyone who knows, but everyone knows Satan. So he called it so that everyone could understand.
                  So sorry if I offended your religious ... (joke) wink
                  And so he stroked and even on the MS, and spent a week in the mine (on technical issues during rearmament), then I lost all my teeth ... and I'm 36 in total ...
                  + Yours sincerely)
    3. -2
      20 March 2021 11: 44
      How? Ban travel from Russia to the EU?
    4. +3
      20 March 2021 11: 54
      This will have to be answered harshly!


      Nothing to answer. The Pershing story repeats itself. The United States is beating us with both near and far, and we are beating Europe with our neighbors. The USA only gets the distant ones. Very nice.
      The only real move, and even then unequal in flight time, is to withdraw from all strategic agreements.
      Actually, there was one deterrent. Ground Forces of the Warsaw Pact. At the turn of the FRG. The war for the United States simply lost its meaning with the loss of Europe. Now everything is sadder.
      1. +2
        20 March 2021 12: 22
        Quote: dauria
        Nothing to answer. The Pershing story repeats itself.

        How did you solve the problem with the Pershing? Didn't ours answer?
        1. +4
          20 March 2021 13: 23
          How did you solve the problem with the Pershing? Didn't ours answer?


          They answered with RSD-10, but the Pershingas still remained a thorn. Only then they were on the territory of the "old" FRG, with a flight time of 10 minutes and reached no further than Moscow (and then only the "second"). And the general alignment in Europe was not in favor of the United States.
          Now they have the opportunity, after an exchange of blows, to retain Europe as a springboard. Russia has become too small. And losing Ukraine is not fun at all. Then the Southwest operational area was the second most important. Immediately through the Greeks they went to the Mediterranean.
          1. +1
            20 March 2021 14: 09
            Pershing were also in Turkey, they were removed from there, quietly, as well as from the FRG.
            So the Yankees took our answer seriously.
            Then that's how things were done. We just watch and learn.
        2. +1
          20 March 2021 14: 34
          Quote: rocket757
          How did you solve the problem with the Pershing?

          The problem was solved by a treaty banning intermediate and shorter-range missiles.
          Now the contract has died, the problem has returned.
          And from the fact that in Europe our "Calibers" and "Iskanders" will be added to America, they will not reach them.
          Our only adequate answer could be missiles in Cuba, but this is fantastic.
          1. +1
            20 March 2021 14: 40
            I am sure that there are more than one answer ...
            The Yankees put it on Geyrope, this is understandable, the Geyropeyskie live too long more, less calmly ... will you move now, will they organize anti-war, anti-American rallies as before, it's not clear ???
            Time will tell.
            1. 0
              20 March 2021 14: 51
              Quote: rocket757
              I am sure that there are more than one answer ...

              Well, you can, for example, make several submarines with a hundred calibers / zircons, like the Americans have, and send them on duty closer to their shore.
              Only it is not very fast and very unreliable.
              1. 0
                20 March 2021 15: 06
                Fortune-telling from lack of information .... one thing is clear, only defense means cannot be dispensed with.
      2. +2
        20 March 2021 15: 06
        Quote: dauria
        Nothing to answer. The Pershing story repeats itself.

        And if you repeat the experience of the "Cuban missile crisis"?
        Only with the right outcome for us?
        Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, SSGNs in the waters of the Caribbean Sea and in general in the Northwest Atlantic and under the Pacific coast of the United States?
        Why not ?
        There was a draft of a two-stage version of the Iskander - the first stage from the Iskander and, as the second, the Dagger. Someone even published pictures from the launcher ... and Putin somehow talked about it.
        I think it will be cheaper than the ground version of the Zircon.
        And of course, the land-based versions of "Caliber" and "Caliber-M" in Cuba ... "Caliber-M" is also possible in Nicaragua.
        And in Venezuela, an airfield for long-range aviation with a CD and a naval base with operational basing SSGN ... and diesel-electric submarines in Cuba.
        And strategists will not have to go broke and violate contracts.
        And as for the guys there - they will serve in the Caribbean ... bully
        In both! fellow
        1. +1
          20 March 2021 15: 30
          Quote: bayard
          And if you repeat the experience of the "Cuban missile crisis"?
          Only with the right outcome for us?
          Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela,

          And there, in Cuba and Venezuela, do they sleep straight and see our missiles and airfields?
          SSGN in the waters of the Caribbean

          Even now, nothing prevents them from being on duty there, theoretically.
          But in practice, this is all very unreliable.
          1. -1
            20 March 2021 16: 26
            Quote: Jacket in stock
            And there, in Cuba and Venezuela, do they sleep straight and see our missiles and airfields?

            In Venezuela, for sure, they sleep and see.
            In Cuba, you have to ask. But I think for the sake of the blessed memory of Fidel and Chavez ... everything will be fine.
            Yes, and calmer as it is with our guys. soldier
            Quote: Jacket in stock

            Even now, nothing prevents them from being on duty there, theoretically.
            But in practice, this is all very unreliable.

            If our bases are there, everything will be reliable.
            And if it's just a SSGN on duty without cover, then no.

            And if you support the American movement for liberation ... from democracy ...
            Of course, I'm talking about a party of pedophiles and other perverts.
            Maybe you won't need missiles either.
            They will smash everything themselves.
            bully angry
          2. -1
            20 March 2021 22: 42
            [quote = Jacket in stock] [quote = bayard] And if you repeat the experience of the "Cuban missile crisis"?
            Only with the right outcome for us?
            Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, = quote]
            And there, in Cuba and Venezuela, do they sleep straight and see our missiles and airfields?
            [Quote]
            there is a US base in Cuba! They will level the cube with the ground than they will allow the Russian missiles to deliver the same thing and arrange a war with Venezuela! Well, the RF outputs have something grandiose to show that it would all be reset to zero! Well, either an ultimatum, or something is simple, such missiles will reach the Russian Federation too quickly and we will not have time to react! from Europe from Japan from Alaska! flight time is less than 5 minutes!
    5. -3
      20 March 2021 12: 41
      Russia's response is the introduction of the S 500 into service.
    6. +1
      20 March 2021 12: 48
      Based on this, some experts suggest that the range of the new weapon will be 3-4 thousand kilometers. It is also stated that its speed will exceed 5M.
      With such a range and speed, at least some guarantees against an attack on our country can only be given by the new "Perimeter" - a dead hand! And honestly, Putin's words "they will die, and we will go to heaven" do not seem stupid to me, it just should be communicated to every pendos. And personally, I really don't give a damn about the whole world!
  2. -1
    20 March 2021 11: 08
    It would be nice to modify missile boats for similar weapons.
    And in Cuba, IT will not hurt.
    1. +2
      20 March 2021 11: 15
      Quote: knn54
      It would be nice to modify missile boats for similar weapons.
      And in Cuba, IT will not hurt.

      How do you like that?


      It can be put anywhere. By car, railway platform, dry cargo ... etc.
      1. +2
        20 March 2021 11: 25
        in Asia to contain China.

        And what about Iran is no longer fashionable?
      2. -12
        20 March 2021 11: 45
        It's a good thing, more such photos from kindergartens, schools and hospitals
        1. +1
          20 March 2021 12: 53
          Quote: Stranger
          It's a good thing, more such photos from kindergartens, schools and hospitals

          Yeah. On the site on military topics. Brilliant!
          1. -3
            20 March 2021 13: 45
            Is it not brilliant to disguise military equipment as a civilian object and brag about it?
            1. +2
              20 March 2021 16: 24
              Quote: Stranger
              Is it not brilliant to disguise military equipment as a civilian object and brag about it?

              Welcome to the real world! Read at least about auxiliary cruisers and about similar container launchers from other countries.
              1. -6
                20 March 2021 16: 54
                Is the real world Iranian crafts?
                And the auxiliary cruisers did not disguise themselves as civilian!
                The trap ships were disguised as a response to the destruction of the civilian ships of the coalition by the Germans!
                And for such crap in a container, in a war they will destroy all civilian cars and buses!
                1. +2
                  20 March 2021 17: 45
                  Quote: Stranger
                  And for such crap in a container, in a war they will destroy all civilian cars and buses!

                  Yeah, otherwise, during the war years, any transport on the roads is not fired at :)
                  Iranian, Israeli, American (surprise, but they are also interested in this) and many others - but you continue to believe that war is a gathering of noble maidens and only these "barbarians-Russian" violate noble customs.
                  Trap ships are only PMA. And there was also the active use of auxiliary cruisers during the WWII and after it by everyone who needed it (from the British and the Yankees to the Germans and the Japs). In general, I'll tell you a secret:
                  1. have armed and will always arm civilian ships for military purposes.
                  2. in case of war, no one will bother peaceful ships or trucks with diapers - they will beat them in any case.
                  By the way, the Japanese were not greatly helped by the fact that they did not destroy especially civilian ships - they entered an unlimited war against them and did not bother. And in occupied France, it was better not to drive a car in the area of ​​the English Canal. As in the USSR - the Air Force, that the Germans, that the allies did not really bother.
      3. 0
        20 March 2021 12: 49
        The picture is beautiful. You can even stick it on the closet, not just on the car
      4. +1
        20 March 2021 13: 10
        It's called a club-k, but there are only a couple of them
        1. +1
          20 March 2021 13: 50
          Quote: ivanec
          but there are only a couple of them

          It's not a question. Not a question at all. Yes
    2. 0
      20 March 2021 11: 18
      S300 / 400, respectively, modified with a universal TPK (even under 40N6 or under the "Zircon") should be placed in Cuba
      1. +2
        20 March 2021 12: 52
        There is a treaty on Cuba - the USSR has removed the missiles from Cuba, the States are not touching Cuba.
        It is still in progress, it suits everyone, including Cuba.
        An attempt to deploy missiles there will free the United States' hands on the pronunciation of Cuba.
        1. 0
          20 March 2021 12: 56
          Aren't the American MRBMs in Europe participating in this treaty? For some reason, everyone does not remember this. And the possibility of the covert use of the Zircon still needs to be proved (of the same type as the American missile defense system in Europe).
          The US will not untie the deployment of missiles in Cuba, because there is a clear threat of getting in your hands.
          1. 0
            20 March 2021 13: 03
            Those who were in Turkey participated
            Only the Cubans do not care about American missiles in Europe, they are satisfied that the Americans do not touch them
            1. 0
              20 March 2021 13: 08
              Quote: Avior
              Those who were in Turkey participated

              Everyone forgot about the "Torah" in England (not their placement was the same)
              Quote: Avior
              Only the Cubans do not care about American missiles in Europe, they are satisfied that the Americans do not touch them

              And of course you think that they (the Cubans) are not touched solely by virtue of the agreements of 62 with a non-existent state? Today we are a guarantee of their integrity and tranquility, no matter how we throw them in the 90s
              1. -1
                20 March 2021 13: 15
                And what does it consist of, this guarantee?
                Now, if tomorrow the Americans begin a full-scale invasion of Cuba, accusing it of violating the old treaty, what will need to be done?
                1. 0
                  20 March 2021 13: 32
                  Probably what your conscience or lack of it tells you ...
                  And of course it's time to return our bases back, for a full guarantee.
                  1. -1
                    20 March 2021 17: 19
                    What is the guarantee? Nobody touches Cubans, that's enough for them, they don't need any bases
        2. +1
          20 March 2021 13: 31
          Quote: Avior
          An attempt to deploy missiles there will free the hands of the United States in relation to Cuba.

          And how will this be expressed?
          Russia has only one chance to reassure the presumptuous Americans - to agree with some Latin American country on cooperation in the military field: the construction of a naval base for the entry of nuclear submarines and an airfield for the Tu-160 m2 and Tu-22 m3.
          There is a variant of organizing the destruction of American servicemen who are in countries of the world without the appropriate permits from the UN Security Council.
          If the deployment of missiles in Europe endangers the lives of Russian citizens and the sovereignty of the state, then getting rid of such missile bases is a top priority. You can issue an ultimatum to a European country on this score.
          Both Poseidon and the nuclear submarine in the Gulf of Mexico (exaggeratedly) can only have the desired impact after a demonstration of capabilities.
          Europe, too, must understand that the United States is exposing it to the first blow. How? Are there islands with equipment, the purpose of which provides for the impact only on Russia? Here, let them become one less (after the appropriate warning).
  3. 0
    20 March 2021 11: 09
    There are launchers. And what will they launch? what
    1. +1
      20 March 2021 11: 40
      Different things can happen ... then they will say that the designer DIDN'T SHMOGLA, will keep within the given dimensions ...
      The main thing is a hint, a warning to whoever needs to be sent, and the most suffering, the first, were encouraged.
      Standard tactic.
  4. 0
    20 March 2021 11: 13
    Maybe it's better to hit first ...
  5. 0
    20 March 2021 11: 15
    This means that the INF Treaty in Europe is a big deal. How did Putin VV on this issue say, can you remind me?
    1. -3
      20 March 2021 11: 34
      And is it important?
      He said a lot of things ...
  6. -1
    20 March 2021 11: 26
    Quote: Hagen
    Quote: knn54
    It would be nice to modify missile boats for similar weapons.
    And in Cuba, IT will not hurt.

    How do you like that?


    It can be put anywhere. By car, railway platform, dry cargo ... etc.
    laughing wassat Can't you die of laughter right away?
    1. +2
      20 March 2021 11: 36
      Both options are acceptable. wassat
    2. +2
      20 March 2021 12: 01
      Quote: Observer2014
      Can't you die of laughter right away?

      But this is in vain. The Yankees take our mobile complexes very seriously! Remember how they wanted to liquidate "Barguzin" as a class.
      Now, with new opportunities, it would be an elusive, serious complex !!!
      So is the "Club" in sea containers. If the topic is developed, put on alert, do you think they will be happy there?
      1. -5
        20 March 2021 12: 23
        Quote: rocket757
        Quote: Observer2014
        Can't you die of laughter right away?

        But this is in vain. The Yankees take our mobile complexes very seriously! Remember how they wanted to liquidate "Barguzin" as a class.
        Now, with new opportunities, it would be an elusive, serious complex !!!
        So is the "Club" in sea containers. If the topic is developed, put on alert, do you think they will be happy there?

        You, no offense, are very old. Yes, you are old as a person. And naturally, as an analyst, you are outdated. bully Do you understand all modern tracking devices? Wunderwaffle "Barguzin" is the time of bygone days in the color of modern technology. To roll out your strategic potential for all to see. No. No.
        1. +1
          20 March 2021 13: 34
          Everything is relative!
          Yes, I have long since moved away from the military theme, but I do not huddle the beds in the garden either ...
          What prevents a person with a baggage of technical knowledge, with specific training, to look, read, "smell", everything that appears even in the public domain and draw conclusions different from those made by those who have never encountered such a topic ...
          I'm just curious.
          By the way, the Yankees also tried to "roll out" their potential ... they couldn't, and that's a fact.
          1. -7
            20 March 2021 14: 16
            So let them roll out to the vastness of their country. And yes. You are not a young man. I want to remind you and many of your friends and comrades hi about the agreement on the number of warheads. There are not so many of them to put them into all sorts of vulnerable carriers.
            1. +1
              20 March 2021 14: 27
              So, for comparison ... I don’t confuse my wife with anyone, and at work, although there are those who want my favorite chair, the management does not see the need to evict me from there.
              1. -6
                20 March 2021 14: 33
                Quote: rocket757
                So, for comparison ... I don’t confuse my wife with anyone, and at work, although there are those who want my favorite chair, the management does not see the need to evict me from there.

                laughing hi But who is evicting you and from where? Just screw the Durmashin a little. And all the cases drinks Chat with young people! Cool thing I will tell you. I love to talk with my youngest son on serious topics. This is a class !!!
      2. +2
        20 March 2021 12: 23
        Now, with new capabilities, these trains will be discovered in no time and destroyed with the first blow.
        1. +1
          20 March 2021 12: 51
          Quote: t-12
          in no time and will be destroyed with the first blow.

          On the move in the middle of Siberia?
          1. -4
            20 March 2021 13: 05
            Quote: Blackgrifon
            Quote: t-12
            in no time and will be destroyed with the first blow.

            On the move in the middle of Siberia?

            And you can think of railways in Siberia as a road ring in Adler laughingAnd where should the train hide on the Transsib? One is there. The other is back to the railway line.
            1. +1
              20 March 2021 13: 08
              Quote: Observer2014
              And you can think of railways in Siberia as a road ring in Adler

              But the distance from PU in Europe and Japan to the train is considerable, and the train itself is moving.
              1. -4
                20 March 2021 13: 12
                Quote: Blackgrifon
                Quote: Observer2014
                And you can think of railways in Siberia as a road ring in Adler

                But the distance from PU in Europe and Japan to the train is considerable, and the train itself is moving.

                So what's next? Yes It also gouges the woodpecker all the time, but does not become a lumberjack. wassat
                1. +1
                  20 March 2021 16: 25
                  Quote: Observer2014
                  So what's next? It also gouges the woodpecker all the time, but does not become a lumberjack.

                  How will they provide target designation at a distance of 5 t.km on a moving target?
                  1. -7
                    20 March 2021 16: 29
                    Quote: Blackgrifon
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    So what's next? It also gouges the woodpecker all the time, but does not become a lumberjack.

                    How will they provide target designation at a distance of 5 t.km on a moving target?

                    Publish the map. So that the public understands what you are talking about.
                    1. +1
                      20 March 2021 16: 47
                      Did not understand you. As I understand it, the rocket train is moving in the Novosibirsk region and how the Yankees will be able to guide the rocket from the PU in Romania / Poland or Japan?
        2. 0
          20 March 2021 13: 39
          Those old trains were a conspicuous object!
          Do you think the ones that can be created now will be the same?
          This is from the same series, when they dream that they will shoot missiles at us, fly their "stealths" and get no answer.
          Yes, yes, it will be so ... in dreams, especially gifted.
          1. -6
            20 March 2021 14: 26
            Quote: rocket757
            Those old trains were a conspicuous object!
            Do you think the ones that can be created now will be the same?
            This is from the same series, when they dream that they will shoot missiles at us, fly their "stealths" and get no answer.
            Yes, yes, it will be so ... in dreams, especially gifted.

            Even more noticeable. Enough to propagandize this nonsense about "Barguzin". Nonsense is nonsense in modern realities. Better switch to other topics.
            1. +1
              20 March 2021 14: 30
              Don't be rude ... it doesn't paint anyone, from any side.
              PS "Barguzin" as a complex, yesterday.
              Modern mobile complexes, an interesting topic and will always be present in discussions, projects, and more.
              1. -6
                20 March 2021 16: 20
                Quote: rocket757
                Don't be rude ... it doesn't paint anyone, from any side.
                PS "Barguzin" as a complex, yesterday.
                Modern mobile complexes, an interesting topic and will always be present in discussions, projects, and more.

                Well, give me cons. And will it feel better? And no be rude. winkAnd what is a modern mobile complex. An MBR missile carrier? How does it look in your understanding?
  7. 0
    20 March 2021 11: 38
    What? Drywall boxes or what? And where are the boards from which beautiful summer cottages and sheds are then obtained?
    (How many of these boxes have we dismantled at the training camp ...)
  8. +1
    20 March 2021 11: 39
    Then, it is necessary to change the power in Mexico to a more loyal one, and to create there several Russian military bases, on which to place "surprises" for the Yankees.
  9. +1
    20 March 2021 11: 54
    The Federation of American Scientists (FAS) research organization said the US was secretly removing nuclear bombs from Europe.
    https://www.mk.ru/politics/2021/03/20/ssha-mogli-tayno-vyvezti-yadernye-bomby-iz-evropy.html
    Maybe in order to then return them in the form of warheads for medium-range missiles.
    We need to create a naval base in Cuba for submarines with medium-range nuclear missiles on board.
    1. -1
      20 March 2021 12: 15
      Quote: riwas
      We need to create a naval base in Cuba for submarines with medium-range nuclear missiles on board.

      Yes, and Venezuela should not be discounted. There, when our strategists landed as part of a courtesy visit, the mattresses squealed like a pigsty. Yes
    2. +4
      20 March 2021 12: 18
      Exported from Turkey - for good.
      And from Europe - for alteration under the new standard of "low-power hydrogen bomb".
  10. +5
    20 March 2021 12: 21
    Model LRHW
  11. +3
    20 March 2021 12: 38
    Quote: mark1
    S300 / 400, respectively, modified with a universal TPK (even under 40N6 or under the "Zircon") should be placed in Cuba

    Have you already reached an agreement with Cuba? lol
  12. +2
    20 March 2021 12: 41
    Quote: rocket757
    But this is already an impudent application for a sharp aggravation of the strategic, military situation in Geyrope!
    This will have to be answered harshly!
    ... sayings, sayings, and ... wishes of health "... no jokes ...". lol
  13. 0
    20 March 2021 12: 42
    Well, that's the rationale for the US withdrawal from the INF Treaty .. It was urgent to legitimize these toys ..
  14. +1
    20 March 2021 12: 50
    It's time to negotiate with the Cubans and Venezuelans on the deployment of missile bases ...
  15. -2
    20 March 2021 13: 02
    Quote: ytftor
    Here are American cartoons, which are gradually becoming reality. sad

    "Water, water, water all around ..."
    From their side, only educational layouts and powerful resources.
    From our side, the Dagger and Iskander-M are available, hypersonic missiles for the Navy are being tested, it is possible that the application for an increase in Britain's nuclear arsenal by 40%, the deployment in Europe of new aviation delivery systems for nuclear weapons and the strengthening of NATO will become an accelerator for full implementation of our other "cartoons". Time flows the same way for both sides.
    1. -1
      20 March 2021 14: 41
      Quote: Vladimir61
      From our side, there are "Dagger" and "Iskander-M"

      And why are they afraid of the Americans?
      They won't make it to Washington.
      And the fact that the "natives" in Europe again kill each other, so they only increased their profits in the past.
      1. +2
        20 March 2021 15: 15
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        And why are they afraid of the Americans?

        And there are no Americans and their bases in Europe, at all? Or do they already have and deploy their hypersonic missiles in Europe? Are we powerless against the North American continent? And the rearmament of the first regiment on the Avangard, bringing modern weapons of destruction in the Strategic Missile Forces to 83%, are these all Russian cartoons?
        In stock, perhaps, there may be a jacket, but not a jacket!

        PS Offended! Minus slapped. Yes, I don't give a damn, judging by all the blunders in the comments, the jacket is really in stock.
        1. +2
          20 March 2021 15: 24
          Quote: Vladimir61
          And the rearmament of the first regiment at Avangard

          And?
          Replacing 4 warheads on a rocket with one.
          And the fact that it is invulnerable to their missile defense, so they did not know how to intercept our old warheads.
          But the flight time of their missiles to Moscow is less than the time of our response - this is a real problem.
          With a really sudden blow, it may happen that America will not be hitting anyone or anything.
        2. +1
          20 March 2021 16: 00
          Quote: Vladimir61
          Offended! Minus slapped

          Yes, it seems that there is not much to be offended at.
          And for a minus, if you don't care that much, call me.
          I understood that if I agree with the comment - a plus, I do not agree - a minus. And there it is, how you seriously consider your pluses and minuses ...
          1. +1
            20 March 2021 16: 27
            Quote: Jacket in stock
            you seriously consider your pluses and minuses ..

            I don't give a damn about them! I answer according to the principle - "I myself am."
  16. +1
    20 March 2021 13: 20
    Clearly, the Jews are to blame.
  17. 0
    20 March 2021 18: 32
    In the future, it is planned to deploy complexes in Europe to contain Russia and in Asia to contain China.

    In this situation, the decision to launch a counter strike will no longer be made by a person. Lacking divination capabilities, it is safe to say that similar complexes will appear in Kamchatka.
    In the discussions, it was mentioned more than once about the BZHRK, but here it is more logical to put ABM elements on the rails. With regard to missile defense, this is a separate story; most likely, the projects "Trust" and "Northern Lights" will be developed in their modern form.
  18. -1
    20 March 2021 19: 52
    Well, everyone will be levied according to the full program of the Russian Federation that they will not even have time to answer this, everything is going on and they are not sykuny always start adventures of the USA and the EU! and they are not afraid of the consequences, the main thing is they minimize them! no matter how scary and insane they are, they will take this step so in the event of victory they will receive great benefits! a simple story does not teach everyone you want to like Europe! God forbid of course this will happen an instant blow to the Russian Federation !!!!! here it is already necessary to set conditions for the United States or remove, or the war will not work out any other way !!!!! here it is already the survival of the Russian Federation! simple as long as the United States will go to such a paradigm the planet earth is in danger! it is not for nothing that they have kept NATO! they can’t get away from colonial control, or rather they don’t want to! we must offer the world a unification of the land and equal living conditions! it seems that everything is not possible! and already it is necessary to think how to colonize the solar system! but you can't sort it out among yourself! and civilizations perished!
    1. +1
      20 March 2021 21: 17
      Well, everything will be levied according to the full program of the Russian Federation that it will not even have time to answer - Russia has had a single and integrated system for 6 years already, and the air defense missile defense system has not been noticed unnoticed, not a single launch in Europe or elsewhere will not remain unnoticed.
      1. -1
        20 March 2021 21: 44
        Quote: Vadim237
        Well, everything will be levied according to the full program of the Russian Federation that it will not even have time to answer - Russia has had a single and integrated system for 6 years already, and the air defense missile defense system has not been noticed unnoticed, not a single launch in Europe or elsewhere will not remain unnoticed.

        ok they will see 5 minutes of flight time until you think so how will the impact be and how to deal with it? (until they start to think false is not false, until they call for a while) time plays a big role in these missiles! especially near the border! how to react to this?
        1. -1
          21 March 2021 18: 56
          What other 5 minutes - at least 10 it will fly and the order for the air defense missile defense systems to shoot down the missile if it flies into our airspace will be instant now the launch of the missile defense system can be automatic at all complexes.
          1. -1
            21 March 2021 21: 22
            10 old ones flew and shas less than 5 minutes hypersound flies from Europe from Alaska from Japan and from others! and this weapon is suitable for a global nuclear strike against the Russian Federation, which is very dangerous for the Russian Federation xs how the Russian Federation will get out! or something to show or an ultimatum, I already have no idea what the Russian Federation will do when it is imposed with such missiles and they say either surrender or perish! everything can be in this world! even that sounds crazy! everything is simple!
  19. -1
    20 March 2021 23: 21
    Quote: Intruder
    Why, for its new amateur DJI FPV device, the company recommends that you first fly off for 10 hours in the attached simulator, so that the device for € 1500 doesn’t run out of trouble on the first flight.
    when I took the model: DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise, so 40 hours, I drove the simulator at home, and then several hours on the backyard behind the house, before going to the park ... work ... wink

    Duc Mavik a series of them is difficult to kill, everything is stable smoothly without bends ... it's impossible to compare with an FPV drone, this is an ordinary Camerodron, albeit an upgraded version. That's why I was surprised, why were you flying there in the simulator? Is there also a simulator for the Mavik line? (I have a Mavik mini)
  20. 0
    21 March 2021 08: 02
    Quote: Mitroha
    I didn't want to argue at all on Saturday. But you, most likely, have a problem in reading comprehension. Please try again.

    what a stubborn silly
  21. 0
    21 March 2021 11: 45
    ТIn the future, it is planned to deploy complexes in Europe to contain Russia and in Asia to contain China.


    Theoretically, this suggests that MRBMs will appear (from the fact that they will be with GP or with simple blocks - equally bad) in Asia and Europe ??? !!!. And saying that some kind of YARS should appear in the Russian Federation - mini (shortened) with a range of up to 4000 km? cIn the ground version with basing in the European part and the Far East of the Russian Federation?

    Did I understand the news correctly?
  22. 0
    24 March 2021 12: 20
    In general, they took Russian PR about hypersound seriously and at an accelerated pace they are developing a whole family of hypersonic weapons for three types of troops. For the US Air Force, Navy and Army with a single hypersonic warhead. what we fought for so to speak

    and what does the RF have? "Dagger" what is the aeroballistic version of the ground-based OTR "Iskander"? with an inseparable warhead. this is generally a classic. An obscure "Zircon" that will not be shown live. perhaps because it's just a fast solid-propellant anti-ship missile.

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